Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1101 ｜ Megyn Kelly on Trump’s Shocking Picks, CNN’s Layoffs, & Lib Meltdowns

00:00:00.840 Megyn Kelly, host of The Megyn Kelly Show and journalist, is here with us today reacting to

00:00:06.860 this week's news about the media shakeup going on at CNN and MSNBC, also Trump's stunning picks

00:00:15.280 that he has announced in the past few days. We've got all of that and more with her. Also,

00:00:21.160 we will be discussing some of the controversy surrounding his attorney general pick, Matt

00:00:26.600 Gates, as well as our thoughts on Pete Hetseth as the pick for the Secretary of Defense. We've got so

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00:00:44.040 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.

00:01:00.340 We've got our girl Megyn Kelly coming up in just a little bit, but we've got to talk about some news

00:01:05.800 first and then we will get her reaction to the news of this week. I want to talk about Matt Gates

00:01:12.120 as Donald Trump's pick as attorney general. This came as a surprise to a lot of people.

00:01:19.920 He announced this on Wednesday. He is a Florida congressman and this is what Trump had to say.

00:01:25.640 He said, Matt is a deeply gifted and tenacious attorney trained at the William and Mary College

00:01:30.520 of Law who has distinguished himself in Congress through his focus on achieving desperately needed

00:01:35.400 reform at the Department of Justice. He goes on to say that Matt will end weaponized government,

00:01:40.900 protect our borders, dismantle criminal organizations, and restore Americans' badly shattered faith and

00:01:47.540 confidence in the Justice Department. He would be a very young attorney general. He's 42. He has been a

00:01:54.960 very loyal supporter of the 45th president. This doesn't come without controversy or a little bit

00:02:01.120 of criticism even from the right. He is known for being pretty brash.

00:02:08.400 He made this comment at a summit that women protesting for abortion rights were too unattractive

00:02:15.760 to be impregnated. He said, why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant 0.99

00:02:21.840 are the ones most worried about having abortions? Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a 1.00

00:02:27.880 thumb. Matt Gates said, and I know a lot of people are scandalized by that. I'm much more scandalized

00:02:34.800 that there are people who will protest for the right to kill, poison, and dismember a baby than I am

00:02:40.160 that someone said something offensive about the people who are fighting for a right to 0.73

00:02:44.960 kill the baby. And he was asked about this and he doubled down. Here's that one. 0.54

00:02:50.640 Is it safe to say that based off of your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these 0.95

00:02:54.540 abortion rallies are ugly and overweight? Yes. 0.97

00:02:57.380 What do you say to people who think that those comments are offensive?

00:03:01.120 Be offended.

00:03:03.000 Now, whether you agree with how he described these women or not, it is, I would say, best 0.96

00:03:11.540 practice when you are engaging with a reporter who is not acting in good faith or who is on the other

00:03:17.280 side, not to apologize for something that you are not actually sorry for. That is actually a

00:03:24.420 characteristic that you want to see in a kind of attorney general. He also is kind of known for

00:03:31.480 doing things that catch media attention. For example, during COVID, this was March 4th, 2020,

00:03:37.560 he wore a full-on gas mask into the chamber as he was having conversations with staff. He said,

00:03:44.800 reviewing the coronavirus supplemental appropriation and preparing to go vote. So he's obviously kind of

00:03:50.160 making fun of this whole thing, which he was really ahead of the curve on that because that

00:03:55.180 was like back when we didn't know anything and he was already saying, okay, we're kind of going

00:03:59.980 overboard. You also may remember that Gates, along with seven other Republicans, joined 208 House

00:04:07.700 Democrats to overthrow House Speaker Kevin McCarthy from his position in October 23. So all of these

00:04:14.400 things, the reason that they're relevant is because they are being cited as reasons why he shouldn't

00:04:20.040 be attorney general, not necessarily because of the content of offensive remarks about abortion,

00:04:26.460 you know, pro-choice protesters, but because some people would say that this is a serious position

00:04:34.460 for a serious person and they might condemn him as just wanting media attention or kind of pulling

00:04:42.300 these stunts to be disruptive and divisive rather than getting the job done. On the other side of

00:04:49.520 the argument is, while we need someone who is willing to disrupt, we need someone who is unrelenting and

00:04:57.060 unapologetic, who really doesn't care at all what the big government mainstream media narrative is and is

00:05:05.060 willing to chart his own path. And some people, because he is, I would say, uniquely hated by a lot

00:05:15.040 of people on the left and what some people would describe as the deep state, would say that this is

00:05:20.020 Trump basically, sorry for the crude term, but giving like a middle finger to the establishment because

00:05:26.180 he certainly is not an establishment pick. Now, because of his nomination, seemingly because of

00:05:33.820 his nomination, he has resigned from his position as congressman. House Speaker Mike Johnson announced

00:05:40.300 that Gates resigned from Congress effective immediately soon after Trump's shock announcement

00:05:45.340 on Wednesday. His resignation came reportedly before a Friday vote on whether to release a House

00:05:50.560 Ethics Committee report related to allegations of sexual misconduct and drug use involving Gates.

00:05:57.640 Gates's resignation will end the investigation as the panel no longer has jurisdiction to pursue

00:06:02.540 the investigation. So, of course, many people are putting things together and surmising

00:06:07.960 that the reason that he resigned wasn't really because he was nominated by Trump as the attorney general,

00:06:16.260 but in order to end this investigation, this Ethics Committee investigation, once you are no longer

00:06:23.680 in Congress, as I just said, they don't have jurisdiction, they don't have a reason to investigate

00:06:29.040 anymore. Some people are saying he was preempting the findings of this investigation and even going so

00:06:35.960 far as to conclude that Donald Trump nominated him so he could resign with dignity so that the results

00:06:46.120 of this Ethics Committee investigation would not come to light. Now, that is a hypothesis.

00:06:53.060 That is a guess that people are making. We do not know that, but those are the pieces that some people

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00:08:27.120 Okay, so this investigation of Matt Gaetz, if you don't know much about this, I didn't really either.

00:08:38.060 I remember when this whole thing started and I heard some details about it, but I really had to

00:08:43.520 dig in to figure out what the details were and what the timeline is. So the Fed started investigating the

00:08:51.100 Florida congressman in the summer of 2020. The FBI executed a search warrant on Gaetz later that

00:08:57.160 year, seizing his cell phone and his cell phone belonging to his ex-girlfriend. The public learned

00:09:02.440 of the existence of this investigation in 2021 when the New York Times reported that prosecutors were

00:09:07.580 investigating whether Gaetz had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old in 2019 and paid

00:09:13.960 for her to travel with him in violation of federal sex trafficking laws. According to reporter and author

00:09:20.600 Molly Hemingway, the New York Times' anonymously sourced report contained no evidence of sex crimes

00:09:27.800 or official comments from investigators. Hemingway argued that this was really a guilt-by-association

00:09:34.960 story. At the end of Trump's term in office, Gaetz reportedly sought a preemptive pardon from the

00:09:40.300 president in case he were charged. That pardon was not given. In September 2022, after more than two

00:09:47.260 years of investigating Gaetz, prosecutors recommended that no charges be filed against the Florida

00:09:53.400 congressman, citing the reliability or lack of reliability of two witnesses. So the Feds declined

00:10:00.140 to prosecute. You know that if the Feds had the evidence that they needed to prosecute, they would

00:10:09.460 have done it. It would have been a shoo-in. So I think that is probably the best argument in his favor 1.00

00:10:15.400 that the Feds declined to actually charge him. There's also, though, this House Ethics Committee

00:10:23.700 probe that was going on kind of alongside but not together with the DOJ investigation. That began in April 2021.

00:10:34.500 It was put on pause while the Justice Department investigated Gaetz in response to their request.

00:10:42.100 Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy claimed that the ouster orchestrated by Gaetz came as a result of

00:10:47.540 McCarthy not ending the ethics investigation. In June of this year, the House Ethics Committee released

00:10:54.260 a public statement saying it would continue its investigation into Gaetz, which included additional

00:10:58.940 allegations beyond sexual misconduct, including misused state ID records, converting campaign funds to

00:11:06.000 personal use, and other charges related to gifts and standards of conduct. And so there is some

00:11:14.340 baggage when it comes to this pick. And if Trump continues with this nomination, which I'm sure he will,

00:11:23.440 because I'm sure he knew all of these allegations and the potential for controversy before he chose Matt Gaetz,

00:11:30.740 we will see if he is actually able to get through the Senate confirmation process.

00:11:37.900 Steve Dace called Gaetz's nomination perhaps the most giant middle finger presidential appointment in

00:11:44.600 American history. A lot of people are saying, look, like this, we need this kind of disruptor.

00:11:52.660 Representative Mike Simpson, a Republican from Ohio, said, I can't say this word. It's a cuss word.

00:11:59.320 Are you S-wording me? He told the Huffington Post. Republican Susan Collins says, I was shocked at the

00:12:07.440 nomination. This is why the Senate's advice and consent process is so important. I'm sure there will be many,

00:12:13.400 many questions raised at Mr. Gaetz's hearing. Also, the New York Post learned from a source that

00:12:23.240 several House GOP members meeting on Capitol Hill burst into uproarious laughter when Gaetz's

00:12:29.520 appointment was announced. Of course, we don't know why. We don't know why they laughed at that. If

00:12:35.780 they thought, wow, this is a giant middle finger to the deep state or whether they just didn't think

00:12:39.780 it was serious. Vice President-elect J.D. Vance said this, and this is sarcasm, so I'll just go ahead and tell

00:12:47.580 you that from from the top. The main issue with Matt Gaetz is that he used his office to prosecute his

00:12:53.160 political opponents and authorized federal agents to harass parents who were peacefully protesting at

00:12:58.740 school board meetings. Oh, wait, that's actually Merrick Garland, the current attorney general. So I think that

00:13:04.160 gives us a peek into what the Trump team is thinking is that, look, like we're not going to get more

00:13:09.940 corrupt than the Biden administration and the Obama administration. And so y'all can just cool it.

00:13:17.860 Also, people are bringing up this very good point, like the Babylon Bee and this post on X, that the 0.87

00:13:24.780 Biden administration is filled with a lot of freaks and weirdos. Biden administration declares Trump 0.50

00:13:29.880 cabinet picks unqualified. And of course, they've got a picture of Mr. Rachel Levine. We've got Pete

00:13:37.420 Buttigieg right there. And then we've got Corrine Jean-Pierre, who I think is a very beautiful woman.

00:13:44.040 I do not know what was going on this day. I'm still very confused about this. And then we've got

00:13:50.340 this freakazoid. And I think I can say that kindly. What was his name? Sam? Sam Britton? Sam Britton.

00:13:59.280 And we even have luggage tags with his face on them because you remember he was, he's not only

00:14:07.480 teaches like BDSM sex shops at colleges. He's also a cross dresser and he's a klepto. Like he was 1.00

00:14:16.160 stealing women's luggage at like at the turns, the turnstiles at the airport. That's what they're 1.00

00:14:23.260 called. Right. And so he's a giant weirdo. So this was the Biden administration. So the fact that people

00:14:29.120 are clutching their pearls now and freaking out about this, that's the hypocrisy that is kind of

00:14:34.860 being highlighted. Kyle Mann, editor in chief of the Babylon Bee said, smart of Trump to pick Matt

00:14:39.140 Gates. Everyone's expectations for a second term were getting unrealistically high. So it was important

00:14:43.100 to bring them back down to earth. You can take that as you will. Matt Walsh said, wow, incredible.

00:14:48.920 Great pick. Trump is really serious about draining the swamp this time. And so mixed reactions

00:14:55.860 from people, Molly Hemingway said the DOJ and FBI tried to frame Matt Gates. So this is her response,

00:15:03.640 which I really trust Molly Hemingway, tried to frame Matt Gates in one of the worst ways possible

00:15:09.120 for a man. Imagine what he would do to hold these awful corrupt people to account. So I think that is

00:15:14.680 the best argument in Matt Gates's favor. If you believe that he was framed and that this was all

00:15:21.760 just to set up to hold him back, keep him down, get him out of politics, that he will have rightful,

00:15:28.040 righteous retribution to try to cut as much corruption as humanly possible as attorney general.

00:15:34.920 So that's one pick that people were really surprised by mixed reactions to. And then there

00:15:40.540 was Pete Hegseth. And he is a co-host of Fox and Friends on Fox News. We've had him on our show.

00:15:47.480 He is a brilliant writer and amazing advocate of classical education. Of course, I'm 100%

00:15:54.720 on board with that. He's written amazing books about classical education, the roots of classical

00:16:00.180 education. I loved the conversation that I had with him a couple years ago. I knew that he was

00:16:06.340 brilliant, but I had no idea because I just didn't know that we shared so much in common when it comes

00:16:12.700 to our theology and our philosophy about education and all of that. And that book did extraordinarily

00:16:18.740 well. And I'm very thankful for that because more people need to know about classical education

00:16:23.500 and classical conversations. He is also a veteran himself and has done a lot with our military and

00:16:31.120 veterans, just raising resources and raising awareness for the need for resources for our vets.

00:16:38.700 And he is being tapped to serve as secretary of defense. And he has this amazing clip from the Sean Ryan

00:16:48.420 show where he talks about the problem of progressivism in our military. Here's top six.

00:16:55.020 There's a chance to course correct it, but it would take the new Trump administration going after it really

00:17:00.380 hard. How would they correct it? Well, first of all, you got to fire, you know, you got to fire the chairman

00:17:06.120 joint chiefs and you got to fire this. I mean, obviously you're going to bring in a new secretary

00:17:08.840 of defense, but any general that was involved, general admiral, whatever that was involved in

00:17:12.920 any of the DEI woke, it's got to go. Either you're in for war fighting and that's it. That's the only litmus

00:17:20.600 test we care about. You got to get DEI and CRT out of military academies. So you're not training young

00:17:25.780 officers to be baptized in this type of thinking. And then, you know, whatever the standards,

00:17:30.820 whatever the combat standards were, say, and I don't know, 1995, let's just make those the

00:17:35.480 standards. And as far as recruiting to hire the guy that, you know, did Top Gun Maverick and create

00:17:41.000 some real ads that motivate people to want to serve. I know there were mistakes made on our tours all

00:17:46.280 over the place, but I at least for the most part had a sense that my senior leaders were committed

00:17:52.020 to the completion of the mission for the right reasons. And maybe there were strategic differences

00:17:57.660 and all that other stuff. And it wasn't always perfect, but I, and that, that trust is broken

00:18:02.880 and you have to reestablish that trust by, by putting in no nonsense war fighters in those

00:18:08.500 positions who aren't going to cater to the socially correct garbage. I think he'll be a great secretary

00:18:13.860 of defense. People were shocked by this just because, I mean, he is a TV host and I don't think that he

00:18:19.200 was, um, even considered by a lot of outside people to be on the short list. I mean, right now we've got

00:18:26.880 secretary of defense Lloyd Austin. And the only thing I can think of is this picture of him from

00:18:32.560 2021 wearing not only this mask, but also like this visor. Really? Really? I mean, this just doesn't

00:18:42.020 depict a whole lot of like courage for me. It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. And of course he is

00:18:48.740 just, he has regurgitated all of the progressive talking points when it comes to LGBTQ stuff and race.

00:18:56.480 And so I think that Pete Hedgeth will be a great secretary of defense. All right. We are going

00:19:02.000 to get Megyn Kelly's reaction to not only this, but her response to some media news, the shakeup layoffs 1.00

00:19:07.900 happening at CNN, um, MSNBC apparently being sold. And we're also going to talk about some personal

00:19:14.560 stuff with her. Like how did she go from this very contentious publicly contentious relationship

00:19:20.080 with Donald Trump to then supporting him publicly speaking at one of his rallies? We didn't get her

00:19:26.120 reaction to Matt Gaetz's nomination. Actually that announcement happened after we recorded this

00:19:34.900 episode, but she will talk about Pete Hedgeth and some of the other people that were picked

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00:21:30.780 appreciate it. Gosh, you've been so busy, even busier than usual, it seems like, over the past couple

00:21:35.960 weeks. Oh, but like joyously busy, right? The past week has just been so glorious. It's a pleasure to

00:21:42.820 come to work. Oh, yes. I've heard the joy in your voice. It's contagious over the past couple weeks or

00:21:48.660 so. I don't remember ever feeling this way about an election, to be honest. I'm usually more like,

00:21:53.560 whatever. Not much is going to change depending on who wins. I just feel so differently this time

00:21:58.680 around. Yes. Gosh, it's a huge relief. I feel the same way. And actually, every Trump supporter that I

00:22:03.960 talked to the day of, obviously, we had no idea how it was going to go. But there was this sense

00:22:09.040 of contagious peace and joy among all of us. We all felt, even before the vote started coming in,

00:22:14.940 that, okay, I think we have this. Like, I don't want to say it out loud, but I think we have this.

00:22:19.160 Did you feel that way? I went a different way because I like to prepare myself for the worst

00:22:24.880 possible outcomes and like get okay with it. The last thing I wanted was to be one of those blubbering

00:22:30.860 fools on the air, you know, if bad news came in. So I was like, she's probably going to win. She's 0.99

00:22:35.840 got this ground game. I'm just going to accept that that could happen and maintain my dignity so

00:22:42.360 I can handle the results like a pro. And then, you know, when it started unfolding that night,

00:22:47.260 it was like, oh my God, this is, it's real. I don't, I can let go of that nonsense and celebrate.

00:22:52.900 Yeah, man. Speaking of blubbering fools, I know that you've seen these videos going around of 0.99

00:22:59.600 these women who set up their tripod and set up their phone, put it on their dashboard, whatever, 1.00

00:23:05.300 just to cry and scream into the camera. I see that. And I'm like, gosh, I'm so glad that they

00:23:12.520 did not get the political representation that they need. And now they're vowing like not to have sex,

00:23:18.580 not to have kids, not to get married, to forfeit all of those things. Do you think that they are

00:23:24.560 serious about their commitment to chastity? Sadly, no, because I think it's a great idea 1.00

00:23:31.640 in their case. I don't think they should reproduce. We don't need further generations of that weakness

00:23:36.820 and hot messiness. And I don't think they're really going to have much opportunity though,

00:23:41.540 back on the good side of the ledger. I don't, I don't get the impression from most of these videos

00:23:45.340 that these ladies are beating them off with a stick. That's why they feel comfortable shaving 1.00

00:23:50.980 their hair. It's like, eh, no, no real difference. It's what six, one way half a dozen.

00:23:55.560 Yeah. It's just kind of performative. No, you can take it to the bank. It's like,

00:24:00.120 I don't know what it is about conservatives, but you can like, by and large, it's a very attractive

00:24:07.340 group. They tend to be people who have their lives together, who like care about grooming,

00:24:12.220 who care about presentation. And when somebody comes up to me on the college campus to say,

00:24:16.880 and I, and before I know what, they're going to say, I'm a fan or, um, you know, I don't,

00:24:20.500 I don't like you. If it's an attractive woman, you can take it to the bank that it's going to be 1.00

00:24:25.860 conservative. So these leftist women who somehow think it's a middle finger to the man to lean into 1.00

00:24:32.720 unattractiveness are really only hurting themselves and really, you know, hooking up and getting pregnant

00:24:39.080 is probably the last thing they need to worry about. Sorry. Yeah. There's a lot of issues.

00:24:43.200 There's some deep issues, much deeper than Donald Trump, I think. Um, you know, speaking of kind of

00:24:49.560 like putting emotions to the side, I do think politically one side seems to be better at doing

00:24:55.280 that than the other side. As much as we hear that, Oh, MAGA just wants power. Republicans just want more 0.65

00:25:00.380 power. We actually don't worship our politicians and we are able to separate how we feel and even our

00:25:06.860 personal lives from what we think about politics, even though those things do overlap, we kind of

00:25:12.060 understand the proper ordering of things. And I was thinking about this a lot as I heard you announce

00:25:18.060 that you are going to be speaking at Donald Trump's rally. I was so pumped for you. So excited. That was

00:25:23.800 exactly what was needed. But of course, I think back to eight years ago when you and Trump had that

00:25:29.560 infamously heated exchange on the debate stage. You asked him about some of his previous comments about

00:25:35.240 women. He goes on the Don Lemon show, basically says that you were on your period when you asked

00:25:40.560 that question. And like, that was very contentious. You have come a long way, both of you in the past

00:25:47.420 eight years. And I'm just wondering, like, what was that like behind the scenes from you, for you

00:25:52.380 personally going from that contentious exchange to then rallying for Donald Trump?

00:25:57.680 I mean, it's been quite a long, strange trip. You know, that when I asked that question back in 15,

00:26:05.560 I liked Trump. I didn't have a problem with Trump. He and I had always gotten along.

00:26:09.560 He had been all over me in the week prior. He was upset about a segment I had done and he was getting

00:26:14.680 nasty. That's not why I drafted that question. That question had been in the bank for months,

00:26:19.200 but I knew it probably wasn't going to go over well because he was already mad at me. And I knew it was a

00:26:25.100 hard question. And so then he attacked me, which was fine. You know, I was I'm in the arena. I'm

00:26:30.500 fair game. But then it just went on for so long and it got so personal. And then the threats in my

00:26:35.000 life went up that I really came to dislike the man. I was not his fan. Yeah. And then he started to

00:26:41.980 govern, you know, then he won and he started to govern and we had settled our differences. I went to

00:26:46.520 see him at Trump Tower. We made up and then I gave him a congratulatory call when he won. So we were

00:26:50.620 technically fine on paper, but there still wasn't any love lost between us. Then he started to

00:26:55.580 govern, Ali Beth. And I was like, oh, I love that. Oh, I like that, too. Well, this is great. Oh,

00:27:01.440 look what's happening here. Oh, and this and then the final thing for me was the Brett Kavanaugh

00:27:06.020 nomination. And it was just so grossly unfair that what was being done to him. I was doing battle with

00:27:12.100 left wing reporters and pundits on NBC every morning. I couldn't believe the lies they were telling.

00:27:17.220 And, you know, it was very contentious and I was very defensive of Kavanaugh. And I just couldn't

00:27:23.060 believe Trump stuck by him, like the nerves of steel that that took. Any other president would

00:27:29.100 have abandoned that guy and said, this is not worth it for me. So I got a lot of great judges I can

00:27:34.180 elevate. He stood by him. And I just it was like a before and after moment for me on Trump. It was like,

00:27:40.040 I get it. All that stuff that I found very annoying, you know, his his willingness to fight,

00:27:46.460 you know, until he feels that he's emerged the victor, which when you're on the receiving end

00:27:51.740 of it is not that great. But when he's fighting for you is amazing. It's it's what differentiates

00:27:58.180 Trump from virtually every other politician is what was needed for Brett Kavanaugh. It's the reason

00:28:03.060 conservatives got that seat on the Supreme Court and he didn't have to go with somebody else.

00:28:07.940 And since then, it's only been getting rosier and rosier. And then, you know, during his four years

00:28:13.620 out of power, the lawfare against him, the assassination attempt and how he handled it,

00:28:19.220 I just see one of the strongest people I've ever laid eyes on when I see Trump now. And I'm

00:28:25.040 100 percent rooting for him. Yeah. Gosh, the Kavanaugh thing. That was a moment for me

00:28:30.500 that I kind of felt radicalized. I think that my own skin got a lot thicker during that time

00:28:36.420 as I was watching the unfair attacks on Kavanaugh and just I mean, Kamala Harris, too, maybe the

00:28:42.600 most vicious of them all when it comes to those hearings. And honestly, I hadn't really thought

00:28:47.500 about it from the perspective of Trump's strength. But you're right. I think a lot of guys would have

00:28:52.980 seen, OK, it is way more politically advantageous for me to just abandon this guy. I mean, who cares?

00:28:58.320 It's just a guy I can get someone else nominated. But he didn't. He stuck by him. And you're right.

00:29:03.920 That is a trait that we have seen over and over again. And I just wonder if that's really what did

00:29:09.100 it for him during the campaign. I was worried after Kamala Harris got in. I felt like their footing

00:29:14.660 was just off. They couldn't land a good attack on her right after she entered the race. And yeah, I 0.89

00:29:21.460 guess I just didn't see it at the time because it was obviously an absolute spanking. And I'm wondering

00:29:27.820 from your perspective, and you probably are around more center, center left people even,

00:29:33.920 liberal people than I am. Did you get the sense from the people around you that they were kind of

00:29:40.900 on the same trajectory that you were seeing his strength, seeing his fortitude, seeing her craziness,

00:29:47.920 and that he was going to be the one to ultimately prevail against her?

00:29:53.740 I don't know. I think Trump didn't win, you know, any of the leftists I know over with how he handled

00:30:00.120 Kamala or even with the assassination attempt. I think he won a lot of them over because of the

00:30:06.680 DEI explosion over the past couple of years. Like my friends in New York who are what we used to

00:30:11.940 consider normal Democrats. They're not really woke. They're kind of open-minded, like, okay,

00:30:16.500 I'll self-flagellate if I need to because I'm a white woman. I guess I'll do a little of that,

00:30:20.280 but not really on board. You know, I'm kind of open-minded, but that's where most of my leftist

00:30:26.120 New York friends are. But then when they saw what happened after, you know, 10-7 and with the kids

00:30:32.360 in COVID and the lockdowns and being called white supremacists if they wanted their children in

00:30:36.380 school, it was just a slow boil for a lot of them where they started to say, I don't recognize myself

00:30:41.660 in this Democratic Party at all. And then, you know, Trump gave them just enough for them to say,

00:30:47.860 okay, I'll do it. You know, I think it started off for a lot of them because I knew, I do know a lot

00:30:51.380 who wound up ultimately voting Trump. It was initially hold the nose and do it. And then I

00:30:56.820 think by the time we actually got here with all that they threw at him, the lawfare and the

00:31:00.840 assassination and the fight, fight, fight, where they were like, you know what? And the girls,

00:31:04.600 the girls in sports thing, they went in there and much more proudly pulled the lever for him. 1.00

00:31:10.200 So I just think the Democrats misread what matters to women and what matters in particular,

00:31:16.400 including to Democrat women. Like many Democrat women are not woke and they're not as annoying 1.00

00:31:22.180 as their spokespeople are. And those are some of my friends. So I did see some of them migrating.

00:31:27.780 Yeah, it was interesting. The calculation they made, obviously she thought abortion was going 1.00

00:31:32.080 to win it for her. That's what she focused on in every single speech, every single rally,

00:31:36.600 so-called reproductive rights. That's when she got most animated because that's her 1.00

00:31:40.660 calling card. And obviously that just didn't do it for her. And I honestly thought maybe that will

00:31:47.260 work. Maybe I'm misreading things. And that is what most people care about, the conflation of

00:31:52.200 miscarriage and abortion, all of that. But what you see and what you're feeling is that even women

00:31:58.060 who might call themselves liberal, when they're thinking women's rights, they're really thinking 1.00

00:32:03.240 about the right to privacy and to fairness. Is that accurate?

00:32:07.220 You know what, you know what it came down to, Alibeth? And I said this, it was, to me,

00:32:11.880 it was the most important thing I said at that Trump rally the night before the vote. It was the

00:32:15.680 one thing I really wanted to say. And that was that the left thinks that women are so obsessed 0.98

00:32:23.080 with ending the lives that grow in their wombs. They forget that most of us are much more focused

00:32:29.660 on protecting the lives that are already here. That's how most of us spend our days thinking.

00:32:37.220 You know, what's happening with my children and how do I protect them and how do I foster a good

00:32:41.460 life for them and myself, right? I want to keep myself safe too. So I can stick around and see

00:32:45.900 and have my own experiences and also protect my children. And so it's not that abortion is not

00:32:51.140 an issue for people who might be on the fence about Trump and Kamala. There are a lot of pro-choice

00:32:56.720 women, including in the Republican party, who don't love what happened after Dobbs, 1.00

00:33:01.820 but they have a lot of other issues that also drive them. And their own children's safety and

00:33:08.300 wellbeing is at the top of the list. So this is one of the reasons why I said what I said that night.

00:33:15.920 You know, I raised the issues that are deeply important to me because I know these resonate

00:33:20.360 with people across the aisle too, like Lake and Riley, you know, killed at 22 years old by an

00:33:26.720 illegal from Venezuela while she was just trying to go to nursing college, like Peyton McNabb,

00:33:32.240 a sophomore in high school who's minding her own business, playing volleyball and gets

00:33:36.100 permanent paralysis and brain damage from a boy posing as a girl. It is not nice. It's not,

00:33:44.680 they don't have to be polite to the point where they accept brain damage to play this leftist game,

00:33:51.640 you know? And then the demonization of our boys is another piece of it because I think most moms 1.00

00:33:56.660 out there, even on the left are sick and tired of being told that their boys are second-class

00:34:02.880 citizens or can't get jobs just because they're boys. You know, it's like this leftist ideology has

00:34:09.600 gotten us into a very dark place. And I just wanted to remind them for people for whom abortion is not

00:34:16.920 the be all end all, which I knew was the majority of people, that there are a lot of really good

00:34:22.440 reasons, no matter how you feel about Trump, the man and the tweets or whatever, to vote for Trump

00:34:27.680 because he actually will protect a lot of the things we care most deeply about.

00:34:32.020 And at least to vote against Kamala Harris, because I know a lot of people that were simply

00:34:37.240 voting against Kamala Harris. And there were a lot of good reasons to do that. I think Title IX would

00:34:43.020 have been her highest priority on the first day, just like it was Biden's highest priority to make

00:34:48.440 sure that men could be in women's sports. And like, that's just the bridge too far for a lot of people. 0.97

00:34:53.660 They can get on board with some other, you know, tenets of progressivism that I can't get on board

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00:36:01.580 I'm curious on your take on the future of the media. I heard you on election night. I was sitting

00:36:09.980 next to Glenn Beck as he was talking to you. And he kind of thinks, OK, this is the end of mainstream

00:36:14.600 media. Obviously, not going to trust them anymore. They just don't carry the credit and the reliability

00:36:21.240 that they think they do. But you kind of disagreed with that. You said, you know, they're excited

00:36:27.260 about Trump because now they have a lot to talk about. They can stoke fear more than ever. Now we

00:36:32.420 know that CNN is laying off a bunch of people, apparently, and MSNBC is possibly being sold. And

00:36:37.860 so what's your take on their future? Yeah, I think they should be on their knees thanking God that Trump

00:36:44.080 won because their business model is failing. And they can't stay in business much longer unless they

00:36:50.080 improve their ratings. And Trump is a ratings machine. Look at him now with all, like, he doesn't

00:36:55.620 have to be announcing the cabinet this soon. He's doing because he likes driving the news cycle.

00:37:00.640 True. He likes to be in the news. It's his oxygen, you know, this kind of attention. And it's their

00:37:06.760 oxygen too. So no way it's perfect marriage. It's very symbiotic. He loves to be covered and they love

00:37:14.540 to cover him negatively and falsely with lies, but they love to cover him. So he was a lifeline

00:37:21.860 for them, at least for the next four years, which they very much needed. I don't think they're going

00:37:26.440 to close up shop in that time, but they're going to continue to shed viewers. I think they're like

00:37:31.900 CNN at least made a run at trying to go more middle of the road when they brought in Chris Licht

00:37:37.660 and that failed. The audience was like, we're all leftists now. We have no interest in being

00:37:43.320 fair and balanced. And instead of adding more viewers on the right, they fired Chris Licht.

00:37:49.220 So then they just leaned into their leftism and placed a few conservatives like Scott Jennings

00:37:55.840 on the air. So in the panoply of 10 commentators, you have one who says conservative things or who says

00:38:02.920 defensive things of Trump. And that's the new business model for them. So they're MSNBC light

00:38:08.520 because MSNBC doesn't even have a conservative doing any of the coverage. So I think they'll do

00:38:14.220 okay over the next four years because of Trump, because he drives, you know, the opposition who

00:38:19.260 will be watching MSNBC and CNN is almost dead. So any sort of a lifeline with the paddles, you know,

00:38:25.400 that's what Trump just did to them will be appreciated, but then it will fade. It will fade because

00:38:29.280 the business model is, it doesn't work. Something that I noticed is that Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon,

00:38:34.480 these are people whose shows, you know, I don't follow, I don't follow them, but I see

00:38:37.920 their content every now and then on my timeline. And I will say they've become a lot more interesting

00:38:43.580 since they left CNN. It actually seems like, I don't know if this is genuine or not. And I guess

00:38:48.160 that's my question, that they're more open to the conservative side. I actually saw Chris Cuomo give a

00:38:53.360 very good description of why people vote for Donald Trump, that they're hiring a guy to do a dirty job

00:38:57.980 and they don't really care about his, you know, moral mistakes and things like that. Do you think

00:39:04.840 that people like that who leave CNN and then all of a sudden become more fair and balanced,

00:39:10.560 was it CNN that was influencing them and they were just kind of lying because they had to at the time?

00:39:16.700 Or do you think that they are lying now just to try to get a bigger audience?

00:39:21.900 The latter. 100%. It's the latter. I mean, Don Lemon hasn't really changed his views at all.

00:39:28.700 He's out there saying that Kamala lost because of racism and misogyny and that the country is a

00:39:32.560 racist country. We just ran the soundbite the other day. I mean, he said it on camera. That's

00:39:37.060 how he covered election night, that we have to be honest. It's a racist, misogynist country. 0.98

00:39:40.540 He's the same old Don Lemon. Elon Musk resurrected his career by giving him an opportunity to come over to 0.92

00:39:45.540 X and said, welcome, cut a deal with him. Within 24 hours, he blew it by being his leftist self

00:39:52.160 and now is suing Elon, which is the latest in a slew of lawsuits I am told Don Lemon has brought

00:39:58.460 against employers. So he's the same old person he's ever been. Chris Cuomo is faking it because

00:40:05.100 he wants an audience. Go back and look at any night on the Chris Cuomo show when it was on CNN.

00:40:09.520 He's as left as they come. He comes from a party and a family of leftists. They're all leftists.

00:40:14.040 Only now do his brother and Chris come out and try to flirt with the right because they both have

00:40:20.540 careers that are in tatters. Chris Cuomo has about four viewers who watch him over on NewsNation

00:40:25.680 and he's trying to increase his numbers because NewsNation is trying to be palatable to both the

00:40:31.660 left and the right. But trust me when I tell you this guy can't stand Trump and he can't stand Trump

00:40:37.560 supporters. And I don't care who he says he voted for or how he says he understands Trump supporters.

00:40:41.720 I'll give you one reaction. When I went out and made my speech speech at the Trump rally,

00:40:46.620 he mocked it. He mocked me for saying that I believe Trump would protect me and American women.

00:40:53.060 So why would you do that? Anybody who actually supports Trump agreed with every word I said,

00:40:58.420 agreed that Trump is the person to vote for if you want the protection of your children.

00:41:02.540 Why would he do that? Because he's bitter and he's sad and he's tired of me attacking him,

00:41:08.220 which isn't going to stop here or anywhere else. He's jealous. Yes. He's a little jealous.

00:41:12.620 He is. Oh, he's 100 percent jealous. OK, can you give me a prediction? Until Donald Trump

00:41:19.100 actually takes office and is inaugurated, you mentioned he's announcing all of these picks,

00:41:24.420 which I think is awesome. But of course, it's got some liberals upset. Do you really think like

00:41:30.060 someone like Letitia, whoever in New York and all these people who say that they're going to stop

00:41:35.180 Trump? Are any of those attempts going to go anywhere or can Americans be confident that he

00:41:40.780 is going to take office and clean up the way that he says that he's going to?

00:41:47.060 Yeah, I have no doubt that no lawfare will stop Trump from taking office. I mean, I worry about

00:41:53.580 the man's safety still, very much so. But I don't I don't think lawfare is going to stand between Trump

00:42:00.220 and his oath of office on January 20th, which is thrilling. Right. You see these picks,

00:42:05.100 Ali Beth. It's like, oh, my gosh, this is so exciting. Elon Musk, the richest and maybe smartest

00:42:11.380 man in the world. Amazing. And certainly most accomplished is volunteering to help us out for

00:42:16.400 free. He just he just said, I'll come work for you. Would you like me to work for you, Ali Beth?

00:42:21.040 How about you, MK? Yes. Yes, I would. I would like that. Please do. Yeah. And so he's going to go in

00:42:25.900 there with Vivek. I imagine Vivek will be more of the workhorse between the two and Elon will have

00:42:30.160 the ideas, but we'll see and try to shed some of the fat that is all over our bureaucracy and,

00:42:38.440 you know, find efficiencies like the best corporate raiders sometimes do when they buy a company or

00:42:43.220 consider doing so. That's brilliant that, you know, Tom Hogan down at the at the border, along with

00:42:49.540 Stephen Miller, who is the one who came up with the policies like remain in Mexico. That was so

00:42:55.340 efficient at cleaning things up. We are so lucky that these people are willing to serve. Government

00:43:01.740 jobs don't pay well at all. They're not glamorous. You're in some crappy windowless office. There's

00:43:08.840 tons of red tape and hierarchies and not that many, you know, views of the outside world. This is great

00:43:15.960 that these people are willing to do it. Same for everybody up and down his roster. The only one I have

00:43:20.640 any problem with is Kristi Noem because she's a puppy killer and I did not want to see her 1.00

00:43:25.500 resurrected. I was I was kind of surprised by that. I had no idea that she was on the short list for

00:43:29.720 anything. That is a huge job. Obviously, I hope she does well. I saw that Stephen Miller, he has like

00:43:35.320 three jobs, which is interesting. I'm sure he'll do great on all of them. Pete Hedg Seth. He'll get it

00:43:39.900 done. He totally will. Pete Hedg Seth, I think, was a surprise for a lot of people, but I've only seen

00:43:45.320 excitement and positivity from our side. So yeah, I think Pete Hedg Seth will do great. He's got like

00:43:50.960 I love Pete and I defended him on the show today, but he he has like a like a personal history that's

00:43:57.080 a little less than pristine when it comes to the marriages and like that kind of thing. Yeah, I don't

00:44:02.820 see that killing you in today's day and age. Like 15 years ago, you couldn't get confirmed if you had

00:44:09.100 that. Yeah, we're much more careful about finding people who only had these perfect resumes personally

00:44:15.880 and professionally. Wasn't it Bernie Carrick who wasn't confirmed as DHS secretary because he had

00:44:21.860 like one illegal working for him for some period of time? It was like one short stint. I just don't

00:44:28.240 even think that would that would ruin your chances today. I feel like we've gotten laxer. Yeah. In a way

00:44:33.620 that's probably good. So we don't we don't miss out on people who may have whatever difficulty in

00:44:38.680 their relationships, but could be great in these roles. And I think because it doesn't matter. And

00:44:43.740 I think Kavanaugh showed us that that you can have a pristine past and they're still going to say that

00:44:48.540 they found something from 30 years ago. I think that kind of radicalized and strengthened a lot of

00:44:53.480 people. I'm excited about what's going to happen at the border. I think that's going to be really good

00:44:57.960 for the country. And you're right. These are people who just love America. And so I'm hopeful to praise God.

00:45:03.040 Thank you so much, Megan. And thank you for the part that you played in all of this. It was a huge,

00:45:07.240 huge role that you played and I'm just thankful for it. So go America.

00:45:10.880 Back at you. Oh, back at you, Allie Beth. It's a pleasure. I mean, we have nothing but blue skies

00:45:15.480 ahead. Yes. Well, thank you so much, Megan. Lots of love.

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00:46:19.580 Okay, so a ridiculous thing is happening on TikTok. Surprise, surprise. And I would get Bree's take on

00:46:29.500 this, but she's a little under the weather, so I'm not going to make her get on camera and use her voice 1.00

00:46:35.140 here. But this is make Aqua Tofana great again. Aqua Tofana great again. Okay, so this is the trend

00:46:43.760 that's happening on TikTok. You heard us refer just briefly, Megan and I, about the liberal foolishness 0.89

00:46:52.360 that is happening. Well, this is like peak foolishness and depravity. The women who did not 1.00

00:46:58.620 vote for Trump are not okay. There are actually some studies that show that liberal white women 1.00

00:47:04.740 have the worst mental health and are on the highest number of prescriptions for different kinds of 0.97

00:47:12.580 psychiatric disorders, and that is actually on the rise. And it doesn't surprise me at all. I mean,

00:47:18.600 I think there are a lot of reasons for that. I think like marital status is a reason for that. I think

00:47:23.140 their life choices are a reason for that. It's kind of like a chicken or the egg type thing that,

00:47:28.540 you know, you could analyze. I think a lot of them are sitting at home alone, fantasizing about being a

00:47:36.960 part of a Margaret Atwood novel and are watching MSNBC all day and they just become extremely bitter

00:47:44.400 and they fantasize about things like this that I'm about to explain to you. So the Mott Gum movement,

00:47:51.100 the make Aqua Tofana great again movement, gained popularity on TikTok following Trump's election when

00:47:56.620 women who were frustrated began posting murder fantasy videos in which they romanticized lacing men's

00:48:04.240 beverages with deadly poison as a justifiable response to fears about abortion rights under a

00:48:10.340 second Donald Trump presidency. They've been viewed millions of times on X or TikTok. They feature young

00:48:16.480 women fiendishly grinning as they mix a cup of tea or other drink with an unknown substance. So Aqua Tofana 1.00

00:48:24.600 is a historical poison that was first used apparently in the 1600s by Julia Tofana, who reportedly used it 0.95

00:48:31.880 to help women escape abusive marriages by killing husbands with a deadly poison containing arsenic lead

00:48:36.980 and belladonna. Like, are you guys okay? Your husband just, he just voted for the guy who just won the

00:48:45.900 popular vote and like most electoral votes. You know, like he didn't want to vote for the progressive,

00:48:53.260 maniacally pro-abortion, pro-gender transition in children, pro-open borders candidate. And you think

00:49:00.700 that that justifies you poisoning him and murdering him? Okay, here's an example of this. This is a 0.98

00:49:07.300 woman threatening to poison her husband, Satu. Okay, so if you were just listening to this, the text on

00:49:23.820 there said, like, quote, your body, my choice. And that is actually in response to like a massive troll

00:49:30.260 that's happening by some men on X on social media after Donald Trump won saying your body, my choice, 1.00

00:49:38.920 which is, is dumb. And so she's saying that she's gonna kill someone because of that. Here is a woman 1.00

00:49:47.360 telling other women to divorce their husbands immediately or to kill them. Saw three. 0.99

00:49:54.020 Women who can divorce their husbands, I'm gonna need you to do it today. And who can't divorce their 1.00

00:50:00.120 husband? Look up Aqua Tofana. I didn't say to do anything with it. I just said to look it up.

00:50:07.880 That is so awful and so demonic. I mean, it's demonic what Kamala Harris stood for. But then

00:50:21.060 to say that someone who didn't vote for that demonic agenda needs to be murdered, like it's so 0.97

00:50:26.280 obvious, like where Satan has an end and where he has a hold. This is the party of death and 0.98

00:50:34.640 destruction and divorce and division. Of course, that's not to say that people on the right don't

00:50:40.380 get divorces, but to glorify something like this. And if you point out, well, Donald Trump has had a

00:50:46.160 divorce and he's had multiple marriages. Yeah, I call that irony. I call it irony that the guy who

00:50:52.220 actually has a personally sordid history is actually heading up the movement against the just

00:51:00.660 exclusively demonic and depraved agenda agenda of the current Democratic Party and progressive

00:51:07.460 activism. There's a woman looking up a poison recipe in case that girl whose husband gave her 1.00

00:51:15.820 an egg apron for her birthday needs it, referencing Hannah Nealman of Ballerina Farms. Here's top five. 1.00

00:51:23.340 Okay, so liberals have this like weird fantasy that there is this coalition of women, of black and 0.99

00:51:42.840 brown people, also like randomly disabled people are thrown into here, LGBTQ people, polycule people, 0.52

00:51:50.560 all of these like people forming a coalition against the cis white straight male patriarchy and

00:51:59.020 that we are all secretly on each other's side. And even the results of the election can't dissipate

00:52:06.020 that strange idea that they have because it's not real. That's why we have the majority of Latino 0.99

00:52:12.820 men voting for Donald Trump. That's why we have a larger share of black men voting for Donald Trump.

00:52:18.820 We even have 43% of Latino women voting for Donald Trump, which is a large share. That's why we still 0.99

00:52:25.860 had the majority of white women voting for Donald Trump. And we still had a really good share of 1.00

00:52:30.760 women in general voting for Donald Trump. And so this intersectionality, like a centered coalition 1.00

00:52:41.200 team that they have in their heads, like John Lennon's Imagine coming to life, it's just not real. It's just

00:52:48.980 not real. Identity politics, I think, is crumbling. People care more about policy. They care more about

00:52:57.180 their pocketbooks. They care more about their ability to protect their daughter's privacy and their safety.

00:53:05.540 They care more about these things than the so-called right to kill a child in the womb. They care more

00:53:10.440 about these things than having the first woman president or the first black Indian woman president. 0.84

00:53:16.460 Like they care more about things that actually affect their lives, affect their children, affect their

00:53:22.820 safety, affect their ability to thrive. And they care about all of these very unrealistic, intangible

00:53:31.420 things that progressives want them to care about, including the idea that climate change is going

00:53:37.000 to sink the United States in 12 years. And so I think that's what you've got. You've got a party that

00:53:43.000 is addressing the tangible, real needs and pain points of Americans, and one that is trying to

00:53:49.460 convince people that they have pain points that don't really exist and that they have the solutions to

00:53:55.260 those imaginary pain points. And that's just a tough sell. We live in the real world.

00:54:01.420 And so pray for these people. You guys have been so sweet to send me so much encouragement this week

00:54:06.800 because after Sophia Bush, I just, I mean, she just lost it. She lost her cool as we were debating

00:54:13.780 publicly on Instagram about abortion. And of course, I got tons of messages, expletive-laden messages

00:54:21.580 from people like this in my DM saying, I have no idea what I'm talking about and calling me all kinds of

00:54:29.320 names. And you just got to, you have to pray for those people because we were all lost at one point.

00:54:36.780 Maybe we weren't all exactly like that, but we were all deluded in our minds in some way. And these

00:54:43.460 women on TikTok, extremely deluded, extremely lost, extremely lonely, extremely deceived. And we just

00:54:50.220 got to pray for these people. All right. We'll be back here on Monday with a really special,

00:54:55.440 important episode with Justin Haskins that I know y'all are going to love. Just mind-blowing. See you

00:55:00.700 guys back here then.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 14, 2024

Ep 1101 ｜ Megyn Kelly on Trump’s Shocking Picks, CNN’s Layoffs, & Lib Meltdowns

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