Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1111 ｜ Daniel Penny’s 'Toxic' Masculinity Saved Lives

00:00:00.000 Daniel Penny has been found not guilty and has been cleared of wrongdoing by a Manhattan jury

00:00:07.560 in the death of Jordan Neely. We will look at this verdict today. We will analyze the outcome.

00:00:14.180 We will compare and contrast social justice and mob justice versus real actual biblical justice,

00:00:20.880 as well as masculinity and the need for more courage. We've got so much to talk about today.

00:00:28.900 We will also talk about some athletes that are sharing the gospel through statements that they

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00:00:53.760 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day,

00:00:58.540 a great start to your week. It is a great day to do the next right thing in faith with excellence

00:01:04.380 and for the glory of God. I love what Elizabeth Elliott said. I heard this in one of her talks

00:01:10.120 one time, not in real life, but over a podcast. And she said, the only thing you have to do today

00:01:19.200 is the will of God. And as I was thinking that, I was wondering, okay, but how does someone know

00:01:28.040 specifically what the will of God is in any given moment? Yes, of course we get to read his will for

00:01:33.980 our lives in the word of God, which is inerrant and authoritative, but a lot of people want to

00:01:40.580 know, but specifically in this moment, what is the will of God? We can discern what is the difference

00:01:46.180 between right and wrong, sin and wickedness, but how do we discern the difference between what is good

00:01:53.760 and what is best? Well, through the power of the Holy Spirit, we simply are responsible to do the

00:01:59.300 next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. And when we understand that

00:02:05.140 and that Christ gives us the strength to do that and that God promises us wisdom when we ask for it,

00:02:13.020 it really relieves us of the burden of perfection, of thinking that we have to have it all figured out.

00:02:20.920 We get to depend upon the Lord and the strength and the sufficiency and the wisdom that he gives us.

00:02:28.280 And we simply do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. That is

00:02:32.900 the only thing we are obligated to do. The only thing we have the capability of doing in any given

00:02:38.360 moment. And that is the will of God for our lives. And so just start out this week with that knowledge

00:02:45.520 and allow the troubles of tomorrow to take care of themselves. We serve a good God, a loving father,

00:02:54.080 and a wise and faithful shepherd that will sanctify us and will accomplish what he sets out to accomplish

00:03:03.000 in our lives. And we can have joy and hope in that. And really, that is the message of Christmas

00:03:10.860 that God is going to go to any length. He is going to do whatever has to be done to seek and save the

00:03:24.840 lost, to redeem his people. And we get to celebrate that gospel all the time, but especially this time

00:03:32.180 of year, as we celebrate Emmanuel, God with us, that God took the form of a human and not just any human,

00:03:40.720 but first an embryo was worshiped as an infant, was heralded by the kicks of an unborn John the

00:03:49.240 Baptist. And he showed us what it looks like to love, what it looks like to serve. But most of all,

00:03:57.780 he became our righteousness. He became our sacrifice. He died and he rose again, conquering death so that

00:04:05.420 we might be reconciled to a holy God, be forgiven of our sins, become a new creation, and live forever

00:04:12.540 with him. That is the gospel truth that we get to celebrate, especially this time of year, as we

00:04:18.940 reflect in a more concentrated way on what the Advent means and what Christmas means. So just praise God,

00:04:25.360 no matter what is going on in your life, all of these truths that we read in scripture that we've

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00:05:52.440 We also have good news happening in the news, unexpected news that we get to celebrate today,

00:06:00.540 and that is that Daniel Penny was found not guilty by a Manhattan jury. They have cleared him of criminal

00:06:09.140 wrongdoing in the death of Jordan Neely on a crowded subway. So some of you may have not

00:06:15.020 been following this story at all. So let me back up and tell you why this is so unexpected and what

00:06:21.540 happened. So in May of 2023, police and witnesses say that Jordan Neely, 30, a homeless street performer,

00:06:29.700 a Michael Jackson impersonator, boarded an F train in Soho, began shouting, throwing things,

00:06:37.300 and making threats. According to Penny and other witnesses, Neely yelled at passengers on the

00:06:42.600 subway saying things like, I don't have food. I don't have a drink. I'm fed up. I don't mind going

00:06:48.560 to jail, getting life in prison. Someone is going to die today. I'm going to die. One woman who was on 0.98

00:06:58.180 the train, one witness thanked Daniel Penny for saving her life. Another passenger described this rant

00:07:06.100 as a satanic rant, and many passengers said that Daniel Neely, or Daniel Penny rather, actually kept

00:07:14.980 them safe that day when he put Neely in a chokehold and restrained him. Eventually, Neely ended up

00:07:26.680 dying in police custody. He was actually alive when the police found him, but the police say that they

00:07:33.160 didn't want to resuscitate him. They didn't want to give him mouth to mouth because he was dirty,

00:07:37.800 and they were afraid that he was going to give them some kind of disease. That is very sad, but that is

00:07:46.420 not Daniel Penny's fault. So the fact that he was alive when the police found him, that is very

00:07:53.540 significant. Here is Daniel Penny explaining what happened, SOT 6.

00:07:58.280 I was scared for myself, but I looked around. I saw women and children. He was yelling in their faces

00:08:03.800 saying these threats. I couldn't just sit still. I knew I had to act, and I acted in a way that would

00:08:11.020 protect the other passengers, protect myself, and protect Mr. Neely. I used this hole to restrain

00:08:17.180 him, and I did this by leaving my hand on top of his head to control his body. You can see in the video

00:08:23.480 there's a clear rise and fall of his chest indicating that he was still breathing, and I'm calibrating my

00:08:28.600 grip based on the force that he's exerting. I was trying to keep him on the ground until the police

00:08:38.400 came. I was praying that the police would come and take this situation over. I didn't want to be put in

00:08:44.680 that situation, but I couldn't just sit still and let him carry out these threats.

00:08:51.900 You know, I say good for him, and we'll put up the picture that went viral after this. He is a former Marine,

00:08:58.960 and he showed courage that most people in this situation simply wouldn't have shown, and the process

00:09:06.100 that he's had to go through for a year and a half now shows exactly why most people in this situation

00:09:12.340 wouldn't have done anything. We've all seen videos go viral on acts where a young woman is being either

00:09:19.240 sexually assaulted, is being sexually harassed, and the men around them do absolutely nothing,

00:09:27.380 either because they're cowards, they don't want to be inconvenienced, or because they know something 0.99

00:09:32.460 like this is going to happen to them, especially if you have a Black suspect. That's just the case. 1.00

00:09:40.000 When you've got a white person and a Black person and the white person even just appears like the 0.90

00:09:47.200 aggressor, you know that you are going to lose in the media. You know that you're going to lose in

00:09:53.780 the court of public opinion. You know that the activists, especially in a liberal area, are going

00:10:00.620 to be against you. You know that there is going to be a progressive DA that tries to ruin your life,

00:10:06.880 a progressive prosecutor that is going to be out to get you. There's more than likely going to be a

00:10:12.240 progressive judge that is going to rule against you, and that was the fear in this case. And that's

00:10:21.160 how it looked up until today when the verdict came out, that there was just too much against Daniel

00:10:28.360 Penny simply because of the color of his skin. So the jury was made up of five men, seven women.

00:10:36.800 They acquitted Penny of criminally negligent homicide, which could have put him behind

00:10:41.140 bars for up to four years in Neely's death. The manslaughter charge, which was the top charge

00:10:48.400 against Penny, was actually tossed on Friday. We'll talk a little bit more about the significance of that

00:10:52.880 and how that was scary when we were looking at what the verdict of this case would be.

00:10:59.920 But jurors ultimately sided with Penny's defense attorneys. They argue that the Marine veteran

00:11:04.120 was justified in rushing to protect his fellow subway passengers when he subdued the erratic homeless man.

00:11:12.320 Jurors heard from more than 40 witnesses, including passengers who described Neely's terrifying

00:11:17.320 outburst on the train before Penny approached him from behind and took him down. Prosecutors argued

00:11:24.420 that, okay, even if Penny did need to restrain him in the moment, even if he was justified for that,

00:11:30.780 he ended up going too far by restraining him for far too long. But obviously that was not convincing

00:11:38.300 to the jury. Again, this was very surprising when you look at who the judge was. The judge,

00:11:46.780 his name was Maxwell Wiley, and he has a history of progressivism. Throughout the trial, he allowed

00:11:56.340 the prosecution to refer to Penny as the white man in front of the jury. And the prosecution, of course,

00:12:04.000 knows exactly what they're doing. Anyone who is a little bit social justice minded, who is even a

00:12:10.340 little bit progressive, which of course in the city of Manhattan, probably everyone on the jury was,

00:12:17.120 that that is going to indicate to them that Daniel Penny is the aggressor and is the oppressor and is

00:12:24.680 guilty simply because of the color of his skin. I mean, talk about institutional and systemic racism.

00:12:29.760 By the way, that is literally the institution, the system being blatantly racist and discriminatory

00:12:36.600 against someone simply because of the amount of melanin that they have in their skin. That is

00:12:41.500 partiality. That is the definition of injustice. Anyone who has Micah 6-8 in their bio should be

00:12:48.880 absolutely reeling about that. If we really care about impartial justice, if we really care about due

00:12:56.480 process, if we really want our justice system to operate in integrity and honor, we should absolutely

00:13:03.400 be disgusted, should be aghast that that kind of language, that kind of demonization of a person

00:13:11.600 because of the color of their skin is allowed in a court of law. Judge Wiley was also accused of

00:13:18.940 handing the prosecution an outrageous gift, this is according to the New York Post, by granting the

00:13:24.080 request to drop the count of manslaughter in the second degree on which jurors were deadlocked.

00:13:29.700 They couldn't agree on that. And then telling them to only consider the lesser charge of criminally

00:13:34.800 negligent homicide. The second charge was only to be considered if the jury acquitted Penny on the first

00:13:41.040 charge. Under clear New York law, DAs must choose the charges before trial. They don't get to change

00:13:47.160 their minds once they learn what the jury will buy. And so that's why that was also an injustice. A judge

00:13:54.700 shouldn't be able to say, oh, you can't decide on that. Just go to the next one. Because if they can't

00:14:01.500 decide on the first charge, then that could potentially be good or could have been good for

00:14:07.460 Daniel Penny. But you don't get to say, okay, let's just make sure we get them. And if the next charge is

00:14:12.520 more convincing to you, then just go to that one as long as you get them. That's what he seemed to be

00:14:18.180 saying by allowing the jury to just throw out that charge and then go to the next one. Also, if you look

00:14:25.280 at the prosecutor, she is also a progressive. Daphna Yoran, the investigation and prosecution were handled

00:14:33.940 by the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. That's led by Alvin Bragg. He appointed an assistant

00:14:41.060 Manhattan DA Daphna Yoran as the lead prosecutor. You remember Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg. He is the guy

00:14:48.640 that downgraded 60% of all felony cases to lesser charges last year. He reduced 938 of the most

00:14:55.900 serious charges in 2023, 834 of which were brought down to misdemeanors. Since being sworn in on January

00:15:05.560 1st, 2022, Bragg has also declined to prosecute 14% of all arrests. So he is very soft on crime.

00:15:14.000 He is largely responsible for the uptick in violent crime in Manhattan. That's what soft on crime

00:15:21.880 policies do. This prosecutor, Daphna Yoran, in 2019, she asked for reduced punishment for Matthew Lee,

00:15:32.680 a 57-year-old who snuck up on a former professor, Dr. Kun Kim, who was 87 years old, killed him over

00:15:43.300 $300 with a fatal blow to the head. So this vicious murderer, she had compassion for him.

00:15:51.680 So Lee was charged with manslaughter instead of felony murder after he agreed to meet with the

00:15:56.360 victim's family and both parties consented to the outcome. This reduced his potential sentence from 25

00:16:01.700 years to 10 years. And this all happened because she said this, when I got the time, I took the time

00:16:09.760 to learn about the defendant. So this vicious murder, I really felt incredibly sorry for him

00:16:14.860 that he had gotten to the point in his life where he felt that there was no choice but to commit

00:16:20.500 this robbery. So that is social justice. You look at someone, you consider their past,

00:16:26.620 you consider their skin color. So lady justice is no longer blind, but you're considering all of these

00:16:33.700 factors that, according to your own bias, should reduce the punishment for a crime rather than just

00:16:41.780 looking at the facts of the case and acting impartially. That is not actual justice because

00:16:48.120 actual justice must be impartial. It must be blind. It must be direct. It must be proportionate.

00:16:54.500 It must be truthful. It can't weigh all of these different aspects of someone's past or someone's

00:17:01.160 life and suggest a verdict or suggest a sentencing based on those things. Again, that is not actual

00:17:09.580 justice, but that is who she is. She is an activist at heart. She doesn't actually care about the truth 1.00

00:17:15.920 of the matter. She cares about intersectionality. And so that's, of course, why we were worried going

00:17:21.880 into this case. She maintained a confrontational attitude towards Penny during his trial with

00:17:27.180 witnesses. Uh, she has brought to the stand referring to him again as the white man and as the murderer,

00:17:33.880 uh, which of course the judge Maxwell Wiley, uh, allowed.

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00:18:47.440 As is typical for social justice activists, there has been an attempt at mob justice. This is the same

00:18:53.100 thing that happened to Derek Chauvin rather than just looking at the facts of the case, what really

00:18:57.380 happened. Like for example, that George Floyd had lethal levels of fentanyl in his body and that it

00:19:04.380 actually looks like Derek Chauvin's knee was on his back, on his shoulder blade and not on his neck.

00:19:11.560 Activists want mob justice. They want the person to be punished because again, of the color of their

00:19:17.260 skin, because of the station in life, because of how things look, because certain verdicts are

00:19:23.140 politically expedient. The same kind of thing was happening here. That is, of course, what BLM does.

00:19:29.460 BLM doesn't care about justice at all. They just care about their desired outcome. They care about 0.97

00:19:34.940 retribution. In the immediate aftermath of Neely's death, liberal outlets released think pieces

00:19:39.960 proclaiming that he was killed for the crime of being hungry and unhoused. BLM activists called Neely's

00:19:46.600 killing an example of white supremacy. There were subway signs that said a man was lynched.

00:19:53.140 Here, so lynched, that is so disrespectful, insanely disrespectful to people throughout history who

00:19:59.880 were actually lynched because of the color of their skin. There is no indication, there is no proof that

00:20:05.560 Daniel Penny targeted this person because of the color of his skin. It didn't have anything to do

00:20:10.580 with that. By the way, there's no evidence that Derek Chauvin kneeled on George Floyd because of the

00:20:16.180 color of his skin. And everyone just jumped on this idea that George Floyd was killed because he was

00:20:21.560 black. There is no proof of that whatsoever. There's no indication of that. There's no justification 1.00

00:20:26.280 for George Floyd or Jordan Neely to be hailed as some kind of hero. I'm not saying that Derek Chauvin

00:20:34.280 was a hero either, but the way that the world reacted to that incident was completely disconnected

00:20:43.200 from reality. The way that it was used to then push policy, which has actually been extremely harmful

00:20:50.760 to black communities, like defunding the police, which has allowed a boom in violent crime, which

00:20:57.680 disproportionately affects black Americans. I mean, it is a huge blight on American history. And the fact 1.00

00:21:04.240 that any evangelical went along with that nonsense and couldn't think for one second, hang on.

00:21:09.700 Is this true, first of all? And is this a real biblical call for justice? Or is this a call for

00:21:18.700 something else, for something actually nefarious? We had a lot of people who just suspended biblical

00:21:25.620 wisdom, suspended judgment during that time. But it does seem like things have shifted a lot,

00:21:31.520 because I think if what happened to Jordan Neely happened four years ago, we would have seen a

00:21:38.040 different verdict, which is actually very sad because verdicts should not depend upon the cultural

00:21:42.900 moment. It should not depend upon social media outrage. It shouldn't depend upon protests or how

00:21:48.860 loud one side is. It should only depend upon the facts of a case. And yet there was chanting outside of

00:21:57.760 the courtroom. There were BLM activists who were calling him a murderer, calling him a subway strangler.

00:22:04.900 And of course, it's Manhattan. A fear that a lot of us had was that these protests were going to affect

00:22:13.000 the jurors, that the jurors were going to be intimidated. They were going to be too scared to

00:22:17.460 say that he was not guilty. And they were going to act upon that fear of intimidation rather than

00:22:23.840 the facts at hand. After the judge dropped the manslaughter charges against Penny, so that was last week,

00:22:30.820 one of the co-founders of Black Lives Matter Greater New York spoke outside of the courthouse saying that

00:22:36.580 Daniel Penny's trial is no different than Jim Crow and that they will not find a white man guilty of

00:22:42.800 killing a black man in modern day America. That is literally insane. That is insane. Again, no connection 0.99

00:22:53.940 to reality whatsoever. I mean, as we have already articulated, Daniel Penny was the underdog in this

00:23:01.460 case. The fact that the prosecution and their witnesses were allowed to refer to him as a murderer

00:23:06.240 and as a white man, you would have never been able to get away with that if it were the other direction,

00:23:14.500 if it were referring to someone as the black man in order to put this idea

00:23:20.420 America in the jury's minds that because someone has a darker color of skin, they're automatically

00:23:26.260 guilty. Here's thought seven. America has not changed. And I hate to say it, it may never change.

00:23:33.400 And people who keep asking, are we going to riot? Are we going to protest? Is that what's needed?

00:23:38.920 Do glass have to break? Do cars have to burn for a black man to get justice in America? 0.92

00:23:44.120 America. We can't show up with peace. We can't show up with facts. We can't show up with evidence 0.96

00:23:49.200 and witness after witness. You give us nothing. And then you ask us to love this country.

00:23:56.120 America hates black people. And we see it from that jury pool. 1.00

00:24:01.720 That is, that is again, literally so stupid. That has no foundation in reality whatsoever. 1.00

00:24:09.360 Okay. There is absolutely no evidence that there is systemic favoritism towards white people when it

00:24:20.080 comes to the criminal justice system today. I'm not saying that has never been the case,

00:24:24.480 but there is no indication that that is the case today. And in fact, we have a lot of evidence that

00:24:30.920 shows the opposite. Like you're really telling me that this progressive judge, this progressive

00:24:36.160 DA, this progressive prosecutor, what was very likely a progressive jury, that they all hate black 1.00

00:24:44.760 people. And that is why we got the verdict that we did. You know that that's not the case. The fact 0.99

00:24:53.120 of the matter is the evidence must have been so overwhelming that the jury overcame their own

00:25:00.000 biases overcame their own personal fears, their fear of retribution, their ideas about politics,

00:25:11.640 their thoughts about systemic racism or oppression of white people or of black people at the hands of

00:25:21.280 white people to come to an objectively right conclusion. That is justice. 0.98

00:25:30.000 Justice is not defined by outcomes per se. It is defined by the process. And BLM and all 0.83

00:25:41.840 social justice activists only look at the outcome. And if the outcome is what they want, they say that

00:25:49.680 that is justice, no matter how they got there. So if it's by mob justice, if it's by some kind of

00:25:56.360 malicious retribution, as long as the black person ends up on top, they call that justice. But that's 0.99

00:26:04.300 not real justice. After Penny was acquitted, that same BLM activist had this to say, Sot 8.

00:26:11.240 And in my Bible, thou shall not kill. In the Torah, thou shall not kill. My heart bleeds for the Neely

00:26:20.120 family. My heart bleeds for his father who sat in front of me every single day and prayed for justice

00:26:26.820 for his son. These wonderful white people, I hope they celebrate their Christmas while the Neely family

00:26:32.600 is praying and asking God for comfort. I'm them and give them America.

00:26:41.160 My goodness. Okay, well, here is another BLM activist calling for black vigilantes to fight 0.84

00:26:48.580 against oppression, Sot 9. We need some black vigilantes. That's right. People want to jump up 1.00

00:26:56.560 and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?

00:27:08.140 I'm tired. Tired. That is, again, just absolutely ridiculous. And it is so hard to respond to.

00:27:15.620 Look, Jordan Neely was born in the image of God. I mean, he was made in the image of God. Of course,

00:27:22.700 his life mattered. And the outcome of his life is really sad. But how he got there is also really sad.

00:27:33.160 That is not Daniel Penny's fault. I think that we all know, like white or black, that we would rather 0.99

00:27:40.860 be in a train car with Daniel Penny than Jordan Neely. And we all hope that if we are in a situation

00:27:48.880 where we feel threatened and there is an erratic person who is threatening our lives or the lives of our

00:27:55.740 children, that someone like Daniel Penny with that kind of courage and that kind of boldness

00:28:02.000 is in the same space with us. And you're joking yourself if you say otherwise. We all know if we

00:28:13.220 are in that situation, we want to see that kind of heroism. But here these activists are not only

00:28:19.880 saying that this is wrong, that it was wrong that he defended his fellow subway passengers, but that

00:28:26.840 there should actually be some kind of violent retribution for that. Again, there is just no evidence

00:28:35.260 that the oppression of black people in the United States is because of white supremacy or because of

00:28:42.260 white people at all. Like we can talk about the problems that are facing the black communities, why so 1.00

00:28:49.320 many disparities exist? The first place you should look is not white people, is not white supremacy, 0.86

00:28:57.700 is not even in modern America today, the criminal justice system. Like if we look at specifically

00:29:04.800 Jordan Neely's life, if we look at his dad and what he is trying to do to make bank off of his

00:29:18.740 child's death, I think we get a pretty good idea of why Jordan ended up the way he was, which is very sad.

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00:30:33.500 On Wednesday, December 4th, Jordan Ely's father, Andre Zachary, filed a civil suit in the New York

00:30:43.140 Supreme Court against Daniel Penny, which of course, a lot of people are afraid this is going to be the

00:30:47.300 outcome of Daniel Penny. They're saying, get out of New York, go take refuge in a red state. They're

00:30:52.680 still going to try to ruin your life and absolutely bankrupt you. But his father, Jordan Ely's father,

00:30:58.580 is accusing him of negligence, assault, and battery. So he's trying to get money out of

00:31:04.640 Daniel Penny. That's what he's doing. Now, why is this so egregious? Is this just a sad father

00:31:09.840 who is seeking some kind of justice, some kind of recompense for his precious son as the BLM 0.97

00:31:18.800 activist indicated? No, of course not. This is a derelict father who wanted nothing to do with his son for

00:31:26.100 his entire life, who abandoned him and is now seeking to make money off of his death. According

00:31:34.660 to The Guardian, Neely's mother was killed by his stepfather in 2007 when he was 14. He bounced

00:31:41.660 between homes before ending up in the foster care system. According to some relatives, Neely had autism

00:31:47.300 and schizophrenia and later developed severe depression and PTSD. He was reportedly abandoned

00:31:55.520 by his father as a young age. Again, was raised by his mother and stepfather, but that ended in tragedy

00:32:02.320 too. At any point in life, it seems to me the father could have stepped in and could have been

00:32:10.160 present in his son's life. Who knows what the outcome of his life could have been if he had had a father

00:32:16.440 who before now had stepped up and taken care of him. But now, only when it is financially expedient for

00:32:23.200 him, only when he can capitalize upon his son's tragic death is he saying, oh, hey guys, I'm present. I'm

00:32:31.760 here. So if we want to look at why Jordan very sadly ended up where he did, we can look at his family.

00:32:40.260 We can look at his dad. It is a cop-out to say this has to do with some kind of intangible

00:32:48.180 specter of white supremacy out there that somehow killed him. That's simply not the case. It's not

00:32:56.420 what happened. Here is his father saying this was rigged. Sotten.

00:33:00.740 What are we going to do, people? What's going to happen to us now?

00:33:10.020 I had enough of this. The system is rigged.

00:33:13.300 Mm-hmm.

00:33:17.140 Come on, people.

00:33:21.000 Let's do something about this.

00:33:22.600 I mean, these kinds of lies, this view of the world and of justice, this refusal to take

00:33:37.300 responsibility, to see things as they are, to only see things through the lens of white skin 0.76

00:33:43.520 black skin. It is such a cancer to any community, to any group of people. And these race hustlers 1.00

00:33:53.220 who want to make a buck off of the death of an image bearer of God, you cannot convince me 0.98

00:34:00.120 that they care about this young man, that they actually care about the loss of black life.

00:34:07.420 I'm sorry. I mean, maybe somewhere deep down they do, but I think that BLM itself has

00:34:14.180 revealed that it's really just a grifting organization that wants to make money when a

00:34:22.140 black person died, that they dies, that they really just want political power. I don't really think that 0.98

00:34:28.120 they care about helping people. I mean, these are, these are the same people, the same progressives

00:34:34.020 that will celebrate an abortion, will ignore black on black crime, but only pipe up about 0.97

00:34:41.000 injustice when a white person harms a black person, whether it is justified or not. You're not going to 0.97

00:34:48.600 convince me that those people really believe in justice. And one thing that I meant to say was that

00:34:53.440 BLM activist who said, my Bible says, do not kill. That's not what the Bible says. The Bible says,

00:34:59.000 thou shall not murder. And not all killing is murder. Self-defense is not murder.

00:35:07.680 War is not considered murder, at least according to the God of the Bible who invented justice. Of

00:35:13.960 course, there are, of course, war crimes that are not justified. But there are certain kinds of

00:35:20.380 killing that are not murdered. The death penalty is not murder, according to the God who commanded the

00:35:26.100 death penalty for murder and who created justice and who is the source of truth and who is in himself

00:35:33.520 love. And so it is simply not true to say that all forms of killing should demand the same kind of

00:35:43.540 outcome and the same kind of verdict and the same kind of sentencing. I do think this was the correct

00:35:48.920 verdict. And I think courage should be rewarded. I think masculinity should be rewarded. This is a

00:35:54.800 unique kind of boldness that seems like a relic of the past. We want men, black or white, no matter what 0.71

00:36:00.720 their background is, to have an instinct to stand up for the most vulnerable and to take action when

00:36:08.400 danger presents itself. We don't want people who are eager to kill someone. Of course, we want people

00:36:15.140 who believe and honor the dignity of image bearers. I don't want Jordan Neely to have died. I want him to

00:36:23.120 still be alive. But he had a long criminal record of assaulting the dignity of human beings. He broke the

00:36:33.880 face of an elderly woman by assaulting her. And a man finally stepped up and protected other people

00:36:42.000 from becoming Jordan Neely's victims. And so this verdict was cracked. And I just want to finish this

00:36:48.000 segment by reading you the difference. This is from my book, Toxic Empathy and Social Justice and

00:36:53.180 Justice. We have a whole chapter on this, which is certainly the most controversial chapter in my book,

00:36:58.760 I think. It's all controversial. Social justice is not justice. That's not only because it harms those

00:37:04.700 that pretends to help. And it's not only because it's supported by philosophical and statistical errors.

00:37:10.600 It's not justice because it is evil. It is the opposite of what God calls justice. Proverbs 20.10

00:37:16.700 tells us unequal weights and unequal measures are both alike an abomination to the Lord.

00:37:22.200 In God's law giving to ancient Israel, he prohibits favoritism even to the poor.

00:37:27.000 You shall do no injustice in court. You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great,

00:37:32.280 but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor. Showing partiality is a perversion of

00:37:37.420 justice that God disdains. God himself shows no partiality and we are to follow his example.

00:37:43.560 And I include all the biblical references there. Just as mistreating someone because they're black 0.97

00:37:47.920 is wicked, so is mistreating someone because they're white or because they're deemed privileged.

00:37:53.340 God doesn't see one form of mistreatment as less abominable than the other. And then we go on to

00:38:03.320 define what true justice actually is, which is proportionate, which is truthful, which is direct,

00:38:10.540 which is impartial. And social justice, of course, is none of those things. Social justice is typically

00:38:19.900 defined as the fair and compassionate distribution of the fruits of economic growth. But of course,

00:38:26.000 it is morphed into something much more far-reaching that basically always says that the white,

00:38:32.120 straight, quote-unquote, cis male is on the side of oppression and that everyone else is at least 0.53

00:38:38.520 somewhat a victim. When you see every case and every crime through that lens, that makes it impossible

00:38:45.680 to discern what is actually true, what is actually right, and what is actually good. All right, we might

00:38:53.860 have more on that in the coming days, but we are praising God for justice. We pray for the protection

00:38:59.640 of Daniel Penny in this case, and we also pray against any acts of vigilantism or retribution.

00:39:07.160 It should be good news to black or white people that our justice system, even in progressive Manhattan, 0.91

00:39:12.540 does work. This is the fruit of due process. While our justice system is very imperfect, it is the

00:39:19.220 greatest ever constructed in the history of the world. And it is based on the biblical principles that

00:39:25.860 we read in God's law giving to Israel. Lady justice should, must remain blind. That is a benefit to 0.99

00:39:34.260 all of us. Again, no matter what our background is, no matter what our color is. So no matter who you

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00:42:21.280 the Daystar updates today. I promise you that we will because there are updates on it, but we just don't

00:42:27.680 have time for two like very long and detailed stories on today's episode. So we're going to end

00:42:33.540 with some more lighthearted stuff and some encouraging stuff. Well, it's like, it's kind of

00:42:39.780 sad a little bit, but it's also encouraging. And that is the courage of an athlete, a soccer player,

00:42:47.300 or as our friends across the pond would say, a football player wearing a Jesus loves you

00:42:53.620 armband, despite the warning that he was given to not wear something like this. And so last week,

00:43:01.380 Crystal Palace, it's a professional soccer club based in South London that competes in the Premier

00:43:07.080 League, the top tier of English soccer defender, Mark Gaye. I think that's how you pronounce his last

00:43:13.020 name. He wrote, I love you, Jesus on the armband. And in a second game, Jesus loves you. This is his

00:43:20.800 league issued rainbow colored captain's armband. He was given a warning that writing that on his

00:43:27.880 rainbow colored armband went against the England's football, England's football association's rules

00:43:35.260 for religious slogans. So more details on this during 13th and the 14th match weeks of the Premier

00:43:41.700 League season, the league partners with Scottish LGBT charity Stonewall for rainbow laces, a campaign to

00:43:49.860 promote LGBT acceptance in soccer. So that's all fine, which that is a sort of religion. It's

00:43:56.880 certainly an ideology that not everyone subscribes to. And so they're forced to promote that. But you

00:44:02.020 can't say something as simple as Jesus loves you without violating their rules. Huh? The league provides

00:44:07.840 all 20 Premier League clubs with rainbow corner flags and other equipment, most notably club captains

00:44:15.840 during these games are given the option to wear a rainbow colored armband, which they're technically

00:44:20.680 free to decline, that they are encouraged not to decline. It's unclear how much pressure is put on

00:44:25.420 them to comply. And so this player could have just said, no, I'm not going to, which could have made a

00:44:32.780 statement. But he decided during the team's November 30th match against Newcastle United, Gaye chose to wear

00:44:39.000 the rainbow armband, but wrote, I love Jesus on, on it in marker and the team's following game

00:44:48.540 on December 3rd, he wrote again, Jesus loves you. And so of course the football association was very

00:44:57.560 upset by this. After the second time Gaye wrote the phrase on December 3rd, the league issued a formal

00:45:04.000 warning and yet another reminder of the rules. So the league is saying right now they're not going

00:45:10.260 to take formal action. They might because he's a devout Christian. So the fact that he put this over

00:45:17.100 the rainbow armband, they're saying that could be seen as hateful. During the second game, midfielder

00:45:24.880 Sam Morsi, who was a practicing Muslim, was the only player who refused to wear the rainbow armband.

00:45:30.780 He instead wore the usual black version. ESPN says the football association considered Morsi's

00:45:37.580 decision to be a matter for the club than the individual and does not contravene any uniform

00:45:42.780 regulation. So it'll be very interesting to see if they are even handed in how they treat the players

00:45:50.600 and the reasons for the players not using the rainbow armbands. Gaye responded to this controversy.

00:45:58.160 He said, I think the message was pretty clear to be honest. It was a message of love and truth as

00:46:02.080 well and a message of inclusivity. So I think it speaks for itself. I believe 100% in the words

00:46:07.540 that I wrote. Even what I've just said right now, it's a message of truth and love. And I hope people

00:46:11.800 can understand that my faith is my faith and I'll stand by it for the rest of my life. So good for him.

00:46:18.540 His father also had something to say. His father spoke to the Daily Mail. If you look at the LGBT community,

00:46:23.880 if you look at what they're doing, they're trying to impose on others what they believe in. It's

00:46:28.240 belief against belief. But at the end of the day, everyone has the right to an opinion. He didn't

00:46:32.500 refuse to wear that armband like Morsi did. People should pay more attention to the person who 0.70

00:46:37.140 refused to wear it. Mark said yes and did the right thing. He accepted to wear the armband.

00:46:44.300 He was just trying to balance the message. He was saying, you gave me the armband as a Christian.

00:46:48.400 I don't believe in your cause, but I will put it on. But Morsi didn't put it on. Honestly, 0.99

00:46:53.420 I think it's fine not to put it on too. I don't think it was necessarily the more right thing to

00:46:58.720 put it on and say Jesus loves you. I think it would have been fine not to wear it.

00:47:03.120 The Football Association are happy for the crowd to sing God Save the King when England plays,

00:47:07.300 which mentions God and religion. And they're happy to have their religious hymn abide with me

00:47:11.160 during the final. Yet, they have to go at my son for expressing his beliefs. Where's the sense in

00:47:20.280 that? What has he done wrong? I think that good for him. I think that he showed courage in that.

00:47:27.220 And obviously, it got people talking about that message. And the word of God does not return void.

00:47:32.460 John 3.16 is true that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever

00:47:37.880 ever believes in him will not perish, but will have everlasting life. And that message was conveyed.

00:47:43.400 People are talking about it. And so I believe that God can use this for his glory. Yes and amen. So

00:47:48.280 good for this soccer player for deciding to speak up in this way.

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00:48:56.120 And then we've got another, we've got a coach this time, another person in the athletic realm,

00:49:06.700 this time from Boise State on this side of the pond, speaking up for the truth of the gospel

00:49:12.100 after a game. Here's top four.

00:49:14.620 Thank you, Jesus. And

00:49:17.480 I mean, Jesus deserves all the glory. I mean, we serve a champion. He died on the cross,

00:49:27.260 but he rose again three days later. That's the God I serve, man. Everything's possible.

00:49:31.780 And our players, they don't run from hard work. They just keep swinging, keep swinging, keep swinging.

00:49:36.820 That's uncommon. They deserve the credit. Jesus deserves the credit. We've got the best staff

00:49:41.080 in the nation, and we've got the best fan base in the nation, too. Bronco Nation undefeated.

00:49:45.360 I love that. That was so clear and so pointed. He didn't have to do that. He could have,

00:49:50.640 if he wanted to, just said something vague about God, but he decided to

00:49:54.020 share what the Christian faith hinges on, and that is the resurrection of Jesus from the dead.

00:49:59.660 That's what validates Christianity. If we don't have the resurrection, we don't have faith in anything.

00:50:05.080 And he went up there, and he articulated that, and I'm just so grateful for that. He's also

00:50:09.340 making an impact on his team. I didn't know this. I'm sure a lot of you did, especially those of you

00:50:13.760 who are fans of Boise State, but he actually baptized running back and Heisman Trophy candidate

00:50:19.900 Ashton G&T back in August. Here's South 5.

00:50:24.280 Good morning. I'm about to go get baptized today.

00:50:27.140 So, Lord, I thank you, Lord, the obedient hearts that are sitting in this room.

00:50:35.580 And I thank you, Lord, that this is going to be a point of separation, Lord, from the old 1.00

00:50:38.740 passage of Jesus.

00:50:39.440 I love that. There are a lot of reasons today to be praising God. Yes, there's some sadness and

00:51:06.960 some craziness going on in the world, absolutely. And we'll be talking about some of that later

00:51:12.400 this week. But honestly, today, there are things to celebrate. We get to celebrate a good verdict.

00:51:20.000 We get to celebrate the courage of athletes, which I think is just like a microcosm of what seems to be

00:51:25.740 happening at the college level throughout the country. I think that we are seeing among the

00:51:32.240 younger generation a sort of awakening, a sort of revival, and every bit of courage counts. Every

00:51:40.020 bit of sharing the gospel, of speaking the truth in love counts. And again, we just see over and over

00:51:45.680 again God's great mercy. It seems like our culture has gone to hell in a handbasket, but I see so many

00:51:51.720 reminders that God's eternal plan of redemption is still going off without a hitch. I still see reminders

00:51:56.700 that the beauty of Western civilization in many cases is still holding. And that happens because

00:52:03.620 of the efforts and the courage of Christians to raise a respectful ruckus about the things that

00:52:09.900 matter. So never think that what you are contributing to the kingdom or to this country, that they don't

00:52:17.920 matter. God works all things together for the good of those who love him. And that's not to conflate

00:52:24.480 our politics or our political movements with the gospel or with our Christian faith. Those things do

00:52:32.620 go hand in hand because they have to. I'm not saying those things are the same. I'm simply saying that

00:52:38.540 whatever we do for good causes that are bigger than ourselves do contribute to the preservation of

00:52:49.240 a country that we love and that we want to survive and thrive for our children and our grandchildren.

00:52:58.140 And our faith absolutely plays a role in that. All right. That's all we got time for today. We will be back

00:53:02.960 here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - December 09, 2024

Ep 1111 ｜ Daniel Penny’s 'Toxic' Masculinity Saved Lives

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