Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1118 ｜ The Great H-1B Debate & the Keys to Keeping Resolutions

00:00:00.820 Over Christmas, conservatives on X went to war over immigration and H-1B visas.

00:00:09.520 The pro-H-1B side was spearheaded by none other than Elon Musk, who said that he would

00:00:15.800 go to battle over this issue.

00:00:18.940 Vivek Ramaswamy also coming in to support Elon Musk.

00:00:22.760 And then we've got people on the other side of this debate, like me, who took issue with

00:00:29.180 some of their arguments.

00:00:30.600 And here today is my dad.

00:00:32.840 We changed up a little bit from what we told you would happen this week.

00:00:36.720 Schedule-wise, he is here today to talk about this H-1B debate.

00:00:41.100 We've got a little bit of a variety of perspectives and disagreements going on, so I think that

00:00:46.300 you'll enjoy it.

00:00:47.020 Also, we will be talking about Trump's priorities, and my dad will be giving some encouragement,

00:00:51.720 some advice, some wisdom on how to start your year on the right foot.

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00:01:13.860 All right, before we start with my dad, I just want to give you a definition of what H-1B

00:01:19.260 is.

00:01:20.240 We get into that just a little bit, but I really like for you to know what exactly we are talking

00:01:26.860 about before we get into these conversations.

00:01:29.340 I really like defining our terms.

00:01:31.480 So this is according to the U.S. Department of Labor.

00:01:34.640 The H-1B program applies to employers seeking to hire non-immigrant aliens as workers in specialty

00:01:41.780 occupations or as fashion models of distinguished merit and ability.

00:01:46.260 A specialty occupation is one that requires the application of a body of highly specialized knowledge

00:01:53.720 and the attainment of at least a bachelor's degree or its equivalent.

00:02:00.380 So a lot of people think of it as like a STEM worker or someone whose face card never gets

00:02:06.200 denied, like Melania Trump. 0.66

00:02:07.900 Melania Trump was she actually came to America on H-1B status to work as a model in 1996. 1.00

00:02:15.680 The problem, though, is that this program has been abused.

00:02:19.480 And I think even Elon Musk agrees that Americans have been deprioritized, that they have been

00:02:26.560 really thrown under the bus for cheaper labor.

00:02:29.040 But there are so many layers, complexities and nuances to this conversation.

00:02:33.320 And we will be tackling as many as we can today with my dad.

00:02:37.960 So without further ado, here he is.

00:02:43.860 Dad, welcome back to the program.

00:02:46.040 Gosh, it's glad to be back.

00:02:47.000 Seems like it's been a long time for you to be live and for me to be back on.

00:02:51.560 But I'm glad to be here.

00:02:52.760 I know.

00:02:53.180 Me too.

00:02:53.600 We had a change in schedule today.

00:02:55.440 So I said yesterday that my dad would be on on Thursday, that we would be talking to

00:02:59.460 a British journalist today.

00:03:01.080 But things have been switched around.

00:03:02.860 So people will be very happy that you are back on.

00:03:05.340 You are one of the most requested guests.

00:03:07.660 So we are talking about this H-1B debate.

00:03:11.760 And I knew what the H-1B visa was.

00:03:15.260 I didn't know that it was this much of a contentious issue, specifically on the right.

00:03:22.000 So it was an intra-conservative Republican Party debate that was really spearheaded by Elon

00:03:29.580 Musk over the holidays.

00:03:31.580 It sparked, it seems, on December 23rd when Trump announced that India-born Sriram Krishnan

00:03:39.340 will serve as the president's senior policy advisor for artificial intelligence.

00:03:44.560 He is a tech entrepreneur, a venture capitalist.

00:03:46.740 Some in the MAGA camp criticized Krishnan's support for increasing the immigration of skilled workers, arguing that his position contradicts Trump's America-first policy.

00:04:01.900 Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy chimed in with Elon Musk saying, look, I'm here and a bunch of the people who work at Tesla are here and doing great work because of the H-1B program. 0.95

00:04:16.820 Vivek Ramaswamy went on this whole rant, which I didn't really appreciate, and I can get into my take later, saying, you know, American culture kind of sucks.

00:04:27.920 And we elevate the wrong heroes, our sitcoms celebrate laziness, and Asia, they create harder workers. 1.00

00:04:38.300 They create smarter people because their education system is better, their culture is better, whatever.

00:04:43.120 So we need H-1Bs if we want America to succeed and be number one. 1.00

00:04:50.480 A lot of conservatives on the other side saying, oh, America first means prioritizing American workers as much as possible.

00:04:57.860 So that's the big picture overview.

00:05:00.520 We can get into the details.

00:05:01.880 But what's your take on all this?

00:05:04.700 Well, it's, you know, it's like everything.

00:05:07.720 Nothing is simple.

00:05:09.180 It's a complex subject.

00:05:10.440 And if we want America first, then we need to have the brightest in certain areas.

00:05:19.960 Now, would we prefer them to be Americans, citizens? 0.99

00:05:23.640 Absolutely, 100%.

00:05:25.620 There is truth about our education system.

00:05:28.720 As you know, our education system fails our kids day in and day out.

00:05:32.540 The public education system does.

00:05:34.880 And that's where the core of the issue begins.

00:05:38.360 And so what we need to be focusing on is to let's how do we improve our education system?

00:05:45.320 And I know that Trump is looking at, you know, maybe abolishing the Department of Education, which I think is a good idea. 0.98

00:05:51.020 It should go right back down to where the parents have the most control. 0.99

00:05:55.460 That's how you get schools to be better.

00:05:57.360 But in the meantime, if we do want these technologies that we need to control and be the leader in, we do need to have the brightest people.

00:06:08.180 Now, I will say that we should look for American citizens first.

00:06:13.800 And we shouldn't, it doesn't need to be a level playing field, in my opinion, in that we should try to hire as many citizens as we can.

00:06:24.320 And we've got a lot of them that maybe are being passed over because of the wage thing, which I think we'll talk about.

00:06:30.520 But I'm not, you know, it's interesting.

00:06:32.180 This whole program started in 1990.

00:06:34.300 All right.

00:06:36.440 And it started with the lower number than they have now.

00:06:41.000 Now they can do about 85,000 a year is how many can be given.

00:06:45.540 There's many, many more that want that.

00:06:47.920 But 85,000 are restriction.

00:06:49.600 But many institutions are exempt.

00:06:51.800 And so right now we're handing out somewhere like 700,000 H1Bs a year.

00:06:57.000 Yeah, I don't think that number is correct, actually.

00:07:00.200 But we may be more.

00:07:02.280 So there are 55,000 put in law and 20,000 more that are exempt.

00:07:08.120 So, or 30,000 more that are exempt.

00:07:10.400 According to the Office of Homeland Security, 755,000 people were admitted to the United States in H1B status in fiscal year 2023.

00:07:20.740 That's a lot.

00:07:21.580 That is a lot.

00:07:22.220 Yeah.

00:07:22.780 So, and there are 11 different types of visas, temporary visas, right?

00:07:28.360 This is just one of them.

00:07:29.500 It is interesting to note that in 2023, over a million temporary visas were granted versus 2019 when it was 600,000.

00:07:40.680 So you look at the Biden versus Trump scenario.

00:07:43.080 So I do see that.

00:07:44.000 I do see that changing a little bit.

00:07:45.920 I'm not as opposed to it as I hear some people being opposed to it.

00:07:49.500 I think there are a couple of fixes we could do.

00:07:51.820 For example, we could, they're supposed to pay them the prevailing wage of what, you know, other people make in that particular field.

00:08:00.380 We need to crack down on that.

00:08:01.780 There needs to be a fine if they don't pay them the same as we do, you know, say an American citizen.

00:08:08.120 That would reduce the competition as well.

00:08:11.120 I mean, that would help competition as well.

00:08:12.760 I mean, that's one thing for sure that we can do.

00:08:15.520 And we should also put requirements in that if there are similarly qualified American citizens, that they should be given first priority for that.

00:08:27.620 I mean, that's simply what it should do.

00:08:30.100 Now, in some cases, there may not be.

00:08:32.360 Remember also, this is something to think about.

00:08:36.100 These people come in, let's just use India as an example, excuse me, because that's where a lot of the software engineers, which supposedly are what's the number one job for this, those people want to leave that country because of poverty and other reasons.

00:08:52.980 If we don't pick the brightest ones out of there to come over here and try to, quote unquote, Americanize them, where do you think they're going to go?

00:09:04.940 They're going to go to a lot of times to our enemies, China, Iran.

00:09:09.980 The question is, are they really the brightest or are they because they are escaping dire poverty in India?

00:09:17.960 They are escaping a life that most of us cannot imagine.

00:09:23.040 Are they willing to do more work for less money?

00:09:27.420 Yes.

00:09:27.820 Because many Indians come for it. 1.00

00:09:30.240 And I don't blame them one bit.

00:09:31.780 I don't blame anyone who comes over here for a better life from somewhere like India or China.

00:09:36.460 But they come over here.

00:09:37.400 They typically live multiple generations to a household.

00:09:40.940 So you've got typically multiple income makers and one house.

00:09:45.860 That already makes the housing market very competitive in a negative way for a lot of Americans who only have one income maker per household.

00:09:56.900 And they are willing to work a lot more for a lot less money.

00:10:01.900 And how are Americans supposed to compete with that?

00:10:04.460 Because Americans don't have the same motivation or the same incentive because we're not escaping the slums. 0.96

00:10:09.680 We're trying to live a good life and, you know, provide for our families.

00:10:13.920 But we just don't have the same desire to basically be a slave to a job.

00:10:18.700 Any kind of work here is an upgrade for people coming from India. 1.00

00:10:22.280 I just don't know if necessarily we're, maybe we are, we're going to pick out the best and the brightest from India.

00:10:29.800 I mean, they rank almost the very bottom when you're looking at all of the countries when it comes to education.

00:10:35.820 Way worse than America when it comes to the ranking of their education system.

00:10:40.300 That's because a lot of them aren't even schooled.

00:10:42.780 I think if you carved out that and you looked at their, you looked at their most educated, where do they rank?

00:10:50.060 I think that, especially in STEM fields, I think, Allie, it's a very simple solution, though, to the problem with they're willing to work for less money.

00:10:57.580 It's we should not allow the companies to pay them, you know, 60 or 70 percent less than what or whatever the number is than they're paying their American counterparts.

00:11:07.440 If the pay is the same, then that disincentivizes the companies from trying to recruit them just for that reason.

00:11:17.720 That is a simple fix.

00:11:19.760 Yeah, and that's what Elon Musk said.

00:11:21.780 And that's what we should do and see what happens.

00:11:23.900 Are they, and then we should have a, are they really the brightest or not?

00:11:27.560 You know, I think we've got a lot of bright people here in America, but I don't necessarily think, like, for example, when you, when you look at STEM, okay, the science, technology, whatever all that stands for, and you look at, in America, females that enter that field versus, say, India.

00:11:45.840 It is a vast, vast difference.

00:11:48.620 Very, again, we're working on that.

00:11:50.700 We're trying to encourage, you know, female engineers and software people and all that, and we should be doing that. 1.00

00:11:56.820 But other countries are way further along than we are in that.

00:12:01.300 We don't have this big of a pool to pick from as we should have.

00:12:05.440 And I think what Vivek was saying is that what we glamorize in the United States and what we put on a pedestal are things that are not necessarily engineering, science, software-based.

00:12:18.000 They are people that we see on TV or people that we see on social media and what have you.

00:12:23.000 And that's not, that's not always best.

00:12:25.380 Yeah, I disagreed with what Vivek said about, you know, he was talking about different sitcoms.

00:12:31.500 We lionized the quarterback and we kind of vilify the nerd.

00:12:36.320 But really, the American story is that whether you're the nerd, so-called, or the quarterback, you can succeed in your particular field.

00:12:44.640 Whereas if you look at most Asian cultures, yeah, you have to be good at math. 1.00

00:12:48.940 You have to be good at science.

00:12:50.360 That is your ticket out of there.

00:12:51.680 That's your ticket to success.

00:12:53.140 That may be your ticket out of the slums.

00:12:55.380 And this kind of tiger mom mentality that we're going to beat your back until you get straight A's. 1.00

00:13:01.160 And that is where your worth and value comes from.

00:13:03.600 There might be some good in that.

00:13:05.000 But I actually think that the beauty of America is that you can be eccentric, that you can be an artist, that you can be a writer, that you can succeed in these ways.

00:13:15.040 And maybe that does make it harder.

00:13:16.920 Maybe we have fewer people to choose from when it comes to the STEM field.

00:13:20.860 I mean, you're actually making the own argument is that, yeah, that is great for America.

00:13:25.380 But we still need these people if we want to advance technologically.

00:13:29.520 But I wonder if we do. 0.98

00:13:31.300 Maybe this is just a totally ignorant question. 0.95

00:13:34.480 But Timothy and I were talking about this. 0.90

00:13:37.040 We're saying, oh, we need to advance in AI.

00:13:39.220 We need to advance in technology.

00:13:41.360 Are these people coming over and making updates to Snapchat?

00:13:44.340 Because I don't think we need that.

00:13:46.720 Like, how much more do we need AI?

00:13:49.300 What technological developments are actually being worked on by these people that we apparently need from India and China that is actually helping our society and is not just making the CEOs of these companies richer?

00:14:03.420 Yeah, well, 30 years ago, we could have said the same thing.

00:14:06.740 What else could we invent?

00:14:07.860 What other technology?

00:14:08.960 And then here we are today, what's happened over the last 30 years.

00:14:12.540 So we don't know the answer to that.

00:14:13.700 Yeah, I really want to know.

00:14:15.100 I agree with you, though, on the Snapchat and all that.

00:14:17.700 The other thing that I don't want these people doing, and it's happening, and again, it's an easy fix.

00:14:23.760 And I get it.

00:14:24.900 You can make an argument against it.

00:14:26.160 I don't think any of these H-1B visa holders should be working on anything to do with our national security or anything that we're considered classified or secret.

00:14:39.360 And I believe that is happening in the Department of Defense and in their contractors.

00:14:43.800 I just think there's too big a risk in vetting people, especially when we allow them to go back and forth to their home countries.

00:14:50.400 You know, they can go back and forth to their home countries.

00:14:53.060 And I just think that's a mistake.

00:14:56.140 Yes, especially, I mean, China and India really benefit from this in some ways.

00:15:00.560 In some ways, it hurts a place like India because the argument is with, you know, the H-1Bs that apparently India has just this treasure trove of, like, hidden geniuses. 0.97

00:15:10.060 And for whatever reason, India is not able to fix their own country. 0.92

00:15:14.700 But as soon as they get to America, they're able to, like, advance us beyond what native-born citizens are able to do. 1.00

00:15:23.120 It's kind of strange to me, apparently, how that works.

00:15:25.580 But that causes brain drain. 0.91

00:15:27.260 You've got the best and the brightest people leaving them.

00:15:29.720 And so the vulnerable people, the really poor people, I mean, they're left destitute.

00:15:34.360 That can happen to any country.

00:15:36.080 But there is a kind of a short-term, more superficial benefit in that those who are coming from a place like India making money here, they're sending money back to their families. 0.94

00:15:46.200 And so the people in India, those people benefiting from them still like that. 0.98

00:15:50.380 And then when you look at the CCP, we know that they steal our technology and our secrets as much as they possibly can.

00:15:56.340 And I just wonder if there are any protections, as you were saying, within this program to make sure it's not just the best and the brightest.

00:16:05.760 It has to be people that we trust, that love this country, that care about our values, that care about our culture, that want to assimilate to a degree and want to uphold American principles.

00:16:19.940 I agree 100%.

00:16:21.440 And that's why it seems like it would be easier to just prioritize American citizens.

00:16:25.420 How are you ever going to know if a guy who is supportive of the CCP comes over here and is really trustworthy?

00:16:33.820 We should support and prioritize American citizens first, no question about it.

00:16:37.420 Now, I do like the fact that they pay Social Security taxes and all that and don't ever get to benefit from it unless they become a citizen down the road.

00:16:44.460 That's a benefit for the rest of us.

00:16:46.480 Yeah.

00:16:46.720 Okay.

00:16:47.160 It's not enough of it to make a difference, but I think it's a benefit.

00:16:51.580 Yeah.

00:16:52.120 I had a couple of things written down.

00:16:55.760 Again, I just believe that the temporary visa programs have some value.

00:17:03.620 For example, now this is an H-1B.

00:17:05.540 This is actually H-2, agriculture.

00:17:08.980 I've got friends that own landscaping, outdoor construction companies, right?

00:17:15.160 Um, and the very best stonemasons, uh, in the Americas come from Mexico and this, this gentleman's company requires, needs those people temporarily.

00:17:29.700 But see, the way that works is, is they work six months here and then they go back to Mexico for six months during the year, right?

00:17:37.760 So they'll work during the summer months here and then they'll go back to Mexico during the winter months where they do similar work.

00:17:44.160 I think those types of things, it's kind of like what the migrant workers used to when they would, uh, you know, pick crops when they were doing most of that by hand and still do some of that.

00:17:52.200 I think those types of programs are really, really good.

00:17:54.840 And it just, it really got out of hand is what happened.

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00:19:18.100 I'm thinking back to what you were saying about the technology.

00:19:21.480 So 1990, this was H.W. Bush.

00:19:23.820 The H-1B program happened under him, right?

00:19:28.080 And the technology that was developed.

00:19:30.720 But how did we get by before H-1B?

00:19:35.220 Because, obviously, we went to the moon.

00:19:38.340 There was a lot of technology that was developed with just American citizens before H-1B.

00:19:45.320 So why, after 1990, all of a sudden were these foreign workers necessary? 1.00

00:19:50.460 Well, I do think it was part of President Bush, the senior's thousand points of light.

00:19:57.640 And I do think it was partly was a way to spread democracy in people's minds.

00:20:04.520 So we thought.

00:20:05.580 And Reagan thought.

00:20:06.520 Yeah.

00:20:06.940 And George W. Bush thought the same thing.

00:20:09.500 And I get it.

00:20:10.300 It hasn't worked out that well since World War II, anyway.

00:20:14.220 But I do believe that they saw these very, very bright people that they could be an asset to America and not a negative.

00:20:25.080 I don't think they thought about or didn't see the fact that they were taking jobs.

00:20:29.360 It's that they couldn't find people to do these types of jobs.

00:20:32.380 So that may have changed by now.

00:20:33.580 So Daniel Horowitz, he is at Blaze Media, and he has been talking about writing about immigration for a long time.

00:20:41.520 And he kind of articulates a lot of people's frustration with this issue and why so many in the MAGA camp say, no, we don't just want an end to illegal immigration.

00:20:49.700 Yes, that's the top priority.

00:20:50.940 But we also want to have a conversation about the limitations and some of the protections within legal immigration.

00:20:56.940 He points out some facts that I found startling.

00:20:59.400 I did not know this.

00:21:00.960 So he said, America has admitted 36 million legal immigrants since 1989.

00:21:06.440 The foreign-born population is at a record of 51.6 million.

00:21:11.080 At 15.5% of the American population, the foreign-born share is also a new record in American history.

00:21:18.000 And this is going to continue to increase.

00:21:21.140 And here's where it's relevant to this job conversation.

00:21:24.040 All net job growth in the United States since 2019 has gone to foreign-born workers.

00:21:32.760 Over the last year, according to the Heritage Foundation, native-born workers have lost 773,000 jobs on net, while foreign-born workers have gained more than 1 million jobs.

00:21:45.440 Since before the pandemic, the foreign-born workforce has grown by 3.7 million, while the native-born workforce has shrunk by 873,000.

00:21:54.620 Over the past few decades, 71% of jobs in Silicon Valley have gone to foreign workers, while 74% of American STEM graduates have failed to secure jobs in STEM fields.

00:22:05.540 So even the STEM graduates that we do have, 74% of them can't even get a job that might even not just be because of H-1B, but because of all of the DEI initiatives that we have.

00:22:15.260 If you're a white male, you're not meeting those quotas that a lot of these tech companies have.

00:22:19.160 During this, there was a California-based lawsuit where a federal jury found that Cognizant, the largest recipient of H-1B visas for many years, was guilty of discriminating against American IT workers.

00:22:37.400 They said that they were actively terminating American employees to replace them with H-1B workers, primarily from India.

00:22:45.020 I've heard the same story at places like AT&T, where actually the American employees were made to train their replacements from India.

00:22:54.120 And these replacements didn't come with some amazing competitive knowledge of the field that they were going into, but they were able to work for less.

00:23:03.660 If employers are desperate for more STEM workers—

00:23:06.120 Let me interrupt you just for a second.

00:23:07.280 Go ahead.

00:23:09.000 Some of that is not people coming here to work.

00:23:13.620 See, they're mixing a whole bunch of numbers and statements in here.

00:23:17.900 Some of that, and it's not right either, but it's AT&T hiring people from India to do those jobs, but they still live in India.

00:23:27.800 They're not taking call center jobs here in a lot of cases.

00:23:31.460 For example, my CPA firm that we use, they have people in the Philippines that do some of the work.

00:23:40.100 Now, they don't live here.

00:23:41.360 Yeah, for no money.

00:23:42.520 They live in the Philippines, right? 0.99

00:23:45.200 And so—and I'm not saying that's good or bad either.

00:23:48.240 I'm just saying they're mixing some of the facts and the figures in here.

00:23:53.420 Also, when you look at the number of citizens here that have jobs versus the foreign-born that are getting the jobs, 0.96

00:24:03.620 part of that's due to our declining population birth rate, right?

00:24:08.200 And so those things—we have less people in the workforce than we've had percentage-wise in a long time.

00:24:16.720 That's because, you know, the baby boomers are retiring. 1.00

00:24:20.000 And so those are just natural things that are going to happen.

00:24:23.340 Now, could we have replaced all of those with American-born workers? 1.00

00:24:27.940 I don't know.

00:24:28.820 Maybe not all of them.

00:24:30.240 The one statistic that does bother me is saying 70% of U.S.-born people with STEM degrees can't find a job.

00:24:39.920 That's a very difficult number to believe.

00:24:43.620 Yeah.

00:24:43.860 Not saying it's not true, but that one I had not heard, and it's surprising to me.

00:24:48.660 And if it is, we should be doing something about it.

00:24:51.180 Either we're not giving them the right education, or it's this whole thing that we're talking about.

00:24:55.880 People are working for less money.

00:24:57.740 Yeah.

00:24:58.320 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics—again, this is in the article by Daniel Horowitz—

00:25:03.200 he found that compensation for STEM workers in 2023 was actually 7.1% lower than in 2019, which would—I mean, we're assuming here—

00:25:17.420 which would correlate with this argument that actually they're not starving for employees.

00:25:24.700 They're not starving for workers.

00:25:26.300 They're just lowering the wages because they know that they can with this H-1B program. 0.90

00:25:34.000 So that's what a lot of people are frustrated with.

00:25:36.680 They feel like it's not an even playing field.

00:25:39.180 Americans can't compete. 1.00

00:25:40.720 They're certainly not getting any priority.

00:25:42.560 And in a lot of cases, either it's because of DEI or it's because of the lower salaries they're willing to take.

00:25:48.560 Americans are really getting the shaft because of this.

00:25:51.740 And people want President Trump to do something about that.

00:25:55.800 Well, it should be America first, and it should be American citizens first. 0.99

00:25:58.840 No question about that.

00:26:00.220 When we can't fill those gaps, we need to figure out how to get them filled.

00:26:04.560 And that's the position that I would take.

00:26:07.180 And I would think that's really the position that—there's no value for Elon Musk to have—I mean, there's not enough people involved that makes a huge payroll difference for these bigger companies.

00:26:21.040 There's just not enough—I mean, that's—so you're talking about maybe a company like an AT&T size has 1,000 people or something like that that are on this or whatever.

00:26:29.960 I mean, that's a drop in the bucket to the overall revenue scheme.

00:26:33.460 But we do need to fix it.

00:26:35.460 Okay, let's see what Bernie Sanders has to say here.

00:26:38.280 Bernie Sanders, who used to be openly against illegal immigration because he saw how it creates unfair competition for the American worker.

00:26:48.000 It hurts the housing market.

00:26:49.700 Americans just can't compete with what they are willing to work for. 1.00

00:26:52.820 And so Bernie Sanders says this, and we take everything a socialist says with a huge grain of salt.

00:26:58.720 But he says, Elon Musk is wrong.

00:27:01.780 The main function of the H-1B visa program is not to hire the best and the brightest, but rather to replace good-paying American jobs with low-wage indentured servants from abroad.

00:27:14.540 The cheaper the labor they hire, the more money the billionaires make.

00:27:19.640 So that's what Bernie Sanders has to say.

00:27:21.400 Well, you know, and again, the stats would back some of that up.

00:27:26.700 So I don't know that he's necessarily wrong.

00:27:28.880 I would say that's not the primary or only reason.

00:27:33.220 Yeah.

00:27:33.900 Elon Musk, he was very worked up about this.

00:27:37.460 And now this was before he replied to my post on X.

00:27:42.180 I saw that.

00:27:43.200 Post on X.

00:27:44.680 But he said.

00:27:45.780 His one-word reply, by the way.

00:27:47.280 Yes.

00:27:47.560 I think he just said yes or something.

00:27:49.220 OK, so he said, the reason I'm in America, along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H-1B. 0.94

00:27:59.980 Take a big step back and F yourself in the face.

00:28:03.060 He said, I will go to war on this issue, the likes of what you cannot possibly comprehend, which is apparently a movie quote from Tropic Thunder.

00:28:11.700 But he really did say it.

00:28:13.520 And when Trump, I don't know if we have the clip of Trump talking about this when someone, I think he was going into Mar-a-Lago on New Year's Eve.

00:28:20.180 But a reporter asked, like, why did you change your mind on H-1B?

00:28:23.880 Because when he was talking to Megyn Kelly not too long ago, he was like, oh, we need a total overhaul of the system.

00:28:29.380 It's, you know, it's hurting the American worker.

00:28:33.020 Now he's like, well, we need a lot of people.

00:28:35.160 We're going to need a lot of people because we're doing a lot of things.

00:28:38.360 So Elon obviously has some influence over Donald Trump for better and for worse.

00:28:41.620 It doesn't mean he doesn't need an overhaul, though.

00:28:42.720 You can have both of those.

00:28:44.020 Both of those things can be true.

00:28:45.680 Yeah.

00:28:46.860 So let me ask you this.

00:28:48.140 Go ahead.

00:28:48.720 I forget what you said that Elon agreed with, said yes to.

00:28:52.940 What was your quote or comment?

00:28:54.760 Well, it actually didn't have to do with this.

00:28:56.620 It did have to do with mass migration.

00:28:58.200 It had to do with, and this is what we were going to talk to the British journalist about today, the Rotherham scandal.

00:29:05.160 The transcripts of the trials of these Muslim grooming gangs in Britain were just recently released, and Elon Musk was talking about this.

00:29:15.320 And it's not just the story of the horrific, and I will not say, but the horrific thing that happened to these young British girls, but the cover-up by the police and by the British government because they didn't want to speak against immigration.

00:29:28.060 They didn't want to speak against Muslims.

00:29:30.200 They were scared of Islamophobia.

00:29:32.220 They were scared of a backlash of Muslims.

00:29:34.260 They were probably scared of terrorist attacks.

00:29:36.440 But there is a consequence to saying, we are importing these people because, you know, we believe that anyone can come here as long as you're willing to work, as long as you can come into the STEM field, as long as you're willing to take a job that other people won't take, no matter what you believe, no matter what your background.

00:29:55.320 There's going to be consequences to that.

00:29:57.140 Not all cultures are equal. 0.96

00:29:58.320 Not all ideologies or belief systems are equal.

00:30:01.300 That's not to say every Muslim is going to do that.

00:30:04.120 That's not what I'm saying.

00:30:05.760 But you can't just adopt this kind of relativistic mentality that anyone who wants to come here and work hard can.

00:30:14.340 You have to have some kind of standard.

00:30:16.340 And at least Elon Musk seems to agree about that.

00:30:19.300 He would agree with that, I would think.

00:30:20.720 I mean, obviously, I don't know him personally, but reading enough about him, I would think.

00:30:24.140 And I would think that Vivek would, too.

00:30:28.160 Vivek.

00:30:29.020 Going in on American culture, that really bothered me.

00:30:33.940 And he talked bad about Boy Meets World, which I just find.

00:30:37.520 Which that is a big problem.

00:30:38.740 It's a big problem.

00:30:39.640 But, okay, I agree with progressive ideology has certainly infected parts of American culture, and that has created laziness, blah, blah, blah, all of this stuff.

00:30:48.700 But American culture, like, the goodness of it is awesome.

00:30:52.280 American culture gave us, if you want to call them the jocks or whatever, heroes storming the beaches of Normandy.

00:30:59.340 It gave us It's a Wonderful Life.

00:31:01.180 It gave us Ronald Reagan.

00:31:02.540 It gave us Landing on the Moon.

00:31:04.100 It gave us Back to the Future.

00:31:05.380 Yes.

00:31:05.860 Nothing better than that.

00:31:06.920 Back to the Future.

00:31:07.780 It gave us Steve Jobs.

00:31:09.300 It gave us an absolutely incredible culture where we have accomplished amazing things, no matter what your background is or socioeconomic status or skin color.

00:31:19.520 But American citizens who consider this place home, not just an experiment, not just an idea, but home, have done amazing things.

00:31:28.280 And I just don't want to see that discredited or belittled at all.

00:31:32.140 But I agree with him that we want to get back to that place.

00:31:35.080 I think we can do that without H-1B abuses, though.

00:31:37.900 Oh, I agree.

00:31:38.340 I don't think it was with any of our visa abuses, right?

00:31:41.300 The other, you know, if you really want to do the most, and this happened around a similar time as well, is you can get rid of what Schumer did in adding this family linkage onto all the immigration.

00:31:54.260 Is that chain migration?

00:31:55.380 Yeah, chain migration.

00:31:56.340 And again, that's allowed under the H-1B program, too.

00:31:59.240 They can bring their wife and kids, right?

00:32:01.040 Yeah.

00:32:01.320 Can they bring their parents and...

00:32:03.940 Yeah.

00:32:04.240 And so that's where you just got to...

00:32:06.920 I get it if you're married and you're coming over here and you've got little kids, you should bring them with you, but it should be temporary.

00:32:12.640 Yeah.

00:32:12.840 But this whole chain migration thing is a big, big problem.

00:32:17.140 I hope they address that.

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00:33:53.600 Let's see what Ron DeSantis has to say about this because we do have a clip of him talking about it.

00:33:57.740 Here's Sot1.

00:33:58.340 The problem is, the way that has been implemented, they will bring in people in technology from other countries who work for lower rates than what Americans work for.

00:34:09.920 And so I don't support undercutting American wages.

00:34:12.960 And the H-1B program has been used to do that.

00:34:15.360 I used to kind of, when people would say, hey, why not just have people that are credentialing coming up?

00:34:19.420 It's like, yeah, yeah, why not?

00:34:20.280 But the way it's operated, I think, has lowered wages for Americans.

00:34:24.420 And that's what you don't want.

00:34:25.600 If it's an addition for the economy that benefits the American people, that's one thing.

00:34:30.340 But if it's displacing an American worker, that's not good.

00:34:33.840 He's basically saying what we're saying today.

00:34:36.220 That's right.

00:34:36.980 And hopefully most people would agree with that.

00:34:39.460 I think they would.

00:34:40.080 And I think President Trump would agree with that.

00:34:41.940 Yeah.

00:34:42.740 And I think Elon Musk even kind of backtracked and clarified a little bit with that.

00:34:47.440 Day one for Donald Trump.

00:34:49.660 Do you think the mass deportations that Tom Homan is promising, we talked about this yesterday, where they will prioritize national security threats and criminals?

00:34:59.220 Like, do you think that's going to happen day one or as soon as possible?

00:35:02.640 Is it a top priority?

00:35:04.420 Is the media going to freak out?

00:35:06.020 What do you think about that?

00:35:07.560 I say yes to all of what you just said, including the media freaking out.

00:35:11.020 But yes, that is going to happen.

00:35:12.700 There's no question about that.

00:35:14.380 That will be day one.

00:35:16.760 And there will be lawsuits.

00:35:18.320 Okay.

00:35:18.580 There's going to be lawsuits because, you know, Biden has given a lot of these people temporary status and what have you.

00:35:26.620 But they, I believe that we'll be as aggressive as you possibly can be.

00:35:32.080 And, you know, we'll let the chips fall where they may from a lawfare standpoint.

00:35:37.040 But yes, I absolutely believe that.

00:35:39.100 And there will be, there will probably be some reports on, well, this person, you know, he took him away from his family.

00:35:48.460 Of course, the family has the right to go with them too, right?

00:35:50.520 They could go back to it if they want to.

00:35:52.020 That's what Tom Homan said.

00:35:53.200 Yeah.

00:35:53.540 I mean, come on, we're not going to scalp you from taking your family.

00:35:57.240 We get that.

00:35:57.820 You're going to be the one that decides whether or not they separate.

00:36:00.900 It's not going to be us.

00:36:02.020 Yeah.

00:36:02.560 We're just going to uphold the law.

00:36:04.220 So no question.

00:36:05.600 And that's the number one issue out there is immigration.

00:36:08.300 I mean, inflation is right behind it.

00:36:10.080 That's a slower thing to work on.

00:36:12.040 But you can have some real wins right off the bat.

00:36:15.420 There was that horrible story that we didn't talk about because it happened over the holidays where this woman on a New York subway was lit on fire while she was sleeping, my goodness, by an illegal alien.

00:36:28.240 And that's not to say that a citizen couldn't do that.

00:36:31.560 I mean, the subway has a lot of problems in New York, whether they're a citizen or not.

00:36:35.400 The point is, is that every crime committed by an illegal alien is preventable. 0.95

00:36:39.760 Yeah, 100%.

00:36:40.520 And we already have criminals here.

00:36:42.520 We have homegrown criminals. 0.64

00:36:43.740 We don't need to import more.

00:36:45.620 The other thing about that particular scenario was that nobody helped the lady.

00:36:49.240 No one helped the lady.

00:36:50.100 And part of that's the Daniel Penny syndrome of, if I help, Alvin Bragg's going to come try to put me in jail and ruin my life, right?

00:37:00.220 Because Daniel Penny's still going through a civil lawsuit, right?

00:37:03.040 He's still being sued civil.

00:37:04.100 I mean, it's a total, I get it. 0.99

00:37:06.940 Yes, by Jordan Neely's scumbag family. 1.00

00:37:09.400 Oh, his scumbag father. 1.00

00:37:10.380 Who completely abandoned him as a child as he went to different group homes. 1.00

00:37:15.720 Apparently, he was autistic.

00:37:16.860 I feel for Jordan Neely.

00:37:18.120 I really do.

00:37:19.480 But his dad coming out of the woodwork now saying, I want justice for my son. 1.00

00:37:23.860 No, you want to get rich and you're a scumbag. 1.00

00:37:26.440 And I feel for Daniel Penny. 1.00

00:37:28.740 I really do.

00:37:29.620 Because who knows who would have died if he hadn't stepped in.

00:37:32.920 And all of us, especially us women, we hope that if we're in a scenario like that,

00:37:38.860 that there's going to be a brave guy who is willing to take the risk.

00:37:42.760 But that gets rarer and rarer the more Alvin Bragg's you have.

00:37:46.820 No question.

00:37:47.440 No question about that.

00:37:47.980 The more social justice you have.

00:37:49.840 Joe Biden gave George Soros the Medal of Freedom.

00:37:53.540 Yeah.

00:37:54.320 You know, who funded the Alvin Bragg's of the world.

00:37:57.840 That's just disgusting. 0.99

00:37:59.220 Disgusting. 1.00

00:37:59.660 And Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:38:01.100 But I could understand.

00:38:02.780 Hillary, whatever. 0.96

00:38:03.920 I mean, I obviously don't like Hillary. 1.00

00:38:05.680 But George Soros is the source of so much evil.

00:38:08.880 It's a slap in the face to every American, in my opinion.

00:38:11.160 Yes.

00:38:11.640 He is the cause of countless deaths because he funds this restorative justice, social justice

00:38:18.580 movement, the soft on crime movement that has been responsible for the progressive DAs,

00:38:24.080 the progressive judges in places like Houston and other Democrat run cities.

00:38:28.760 And that has caused people's deaths.

00:38:31.680 And not only what did you think?

00:38:32.760 Because we didn't talk about this, and I don't even have the specifics in front of me.

00:38:36.160 But Joe Biden, using the last few days of his tenure to pardon and commute the sentences

00:38:44.520 of all of these heinous murderers who committed the very worst crimes against children.

00:38:50.920 I mean, it's just, again, it's a slap against the victim's families, for sure, and all of

00:38:57.700 those that believe in what the law is.

00:38:59.880 The law convicted them under the law by a jury of their peers, and they received the

00:39:07.680 sentence saying that should be carried out.

00:39:09.540 I'm sorry, unless you can find a reason that they were wrong, which that's not what they're

00:39:13.500 saying.

00:39:13.840 There's not even, nobody's even saying they didn't, you know, that there's new evidence.

00:39:17.480 It's just, no, we just decide to do this.

00:39:19.380 It's pitiful.

00:39:20.260 Yes, it is pitiful.

00:39:21.720 And it's just all this belief, too.

00:39:24.160 They don't believe in the death penalty.

00:39:27.180 Even some of these murders, I mean, brutally tortured and murdered children, babies, elderly

00:39:34.700 people.

00:39:35.400 He's saying they don't deserve to die.

00:39:37.840 And that is against God's justice.

00:39:39.580 That is calling evil good and good evil.

00:39:41.720 And I do think that we will probably see, just like we did with the last Trump administration,

00:39:47.500 resuming execution for those who are in federal prison on death row.

00:39:53.400 That's why he commuted the sentences, so that he wouldn't do it to those particular people.

00:39:58.200 Just evil.

00:39:58.880 Okay.

00:39:59.100 What else can we expect when it comes to Trump's first 100 days?

00:40:02.900 Well, I think he's going to really be pushing for a bill, a comprehensive bill.

00:40:09.600 You know, he doesn't want a bunch of small bills.

00:40:11.420 He wants a comprehensive bill.

00:40:13.340 Probably will not deal with the tax issue as much because that will take a little bit longer.

00:40:17.400 But on immigration, on political wokeness, on DEI, on the transgender issues, I think a lot of that will be in one bill.

00:40:30.360 Okay.

00:40:30.640 And I see that coming out pretty quickly.

00:40:35.520 Now, the House can pass it, you know, if our crazies get on board, the Republicans can pass it on their own.

00:40:44.260 It's a little bit tougher in the Senate because in the Senate, unless it's related to the budget, okay,

00:40:52.900 so you have to be tricky in how you word these things so that there's a budget impact on it.

00:40:57.220 If it's not related to the budget, it takes a 60-vote threshold to get what they call cloture to take a vote.

00:41:04.220 If it's related to the budget, they can do it under reconciliation, which is another thing that the Democrats put in that's now biting them in the backside.

00:41:12.780 That they can do it with 51 votes, which we have that, so.

00:41:17.540 Okay.

00:41:18.100 I think he's going to do it.

00:41:19.900 I also think he's going to, I do think we'll see some significant movement towards peace in the Middle East and peace in Ukraine and Russia.

00:41:28.400 Do you think we'll get all the hostages back, or Israel? 0.97

00:41:32.400 I think we'll get them all back.

00:41:34.360 They may not all be alive.

00:41:36.040 Yeah.

00:41:36.960 Unfortunately.

00:41:37.800 Yeah.

00:41:38.220 It's interesting how Trump not even being in office yet has created a shift amongst our enemies and our allies.

00:41:47.680 When you have Justin Trudeau potentially resigning, I guess he didn't officially resign.

00:41:53.300 He said he's going to resign.

00:41:54.960 You even have Mexico.

00:41:56.240 Well, you stay prime minister until they get another one.

00:41:59.400 Until they get someone else.

00:42:00.640 You've got Mexico saying, oh, please don't give us tariffs. 0.68

00:42:03.620 Okay.

00:42:03.960 We're going to secure our borders.

00:42:06.900 He's not even in office yet.

00:42:08.800 Well, I think what he did, which is a lesson for us, okay, is that as soon as he won the election, he decided to lead.

00:42:17.460 Yeah.

00:42:18.000 Where is Joe Biden even?

00:42:19.580 Because there's, and just remember, there's never a vacuum.

00:42:22.440 Yeah.

00:42:22.580 All right.

00:42:23.100 Somebody will step up.

00:42:24.340 Now, we're glad that it was President Trump.

00:42:27.060 Yeah.

00:42:27.360 Praise God.

00:42:27.460 We should remember that as well, is that if when our president, President Trump, which I don't think he will, but when he, when it's time for him to go and the next person's elected, which will happen in four years, he's only got one term.

00:42:40.340 Yeah.

00:42:40.580 And then he needs to continue to lead until the 20th of January, 2028 or 29th.

00:42:50.120 Crazy.

00:42:50.700 Yeah.

00:42:51.280 Yeah.

00:42:51.680 Which I think he will because he understands it.

00:42:54.420 I don't think Biden or Kamala want to be in power.

00:42:58.440 I don't, I don't think, I mean, I know they want Democrats to be in charge, but I don't think either of them really wanted their role.

00:43:03.860 I think they're both ready to go and cash in.

00:43:06.240 Yeah.

00:43:06.480 Continue to cash in.

00:43:07.420 You think Mike Johnson will be an effective speaker?

00:43:11.420 Yes, I do think he'll be an effective speaker.

00:43:13.540 He's got pretty good people around him.

00:43:15.140 You know, I went to the swearing in.

00:43:16.500 I had a friend that's a new congressman up there that I served in the Texas legislature with.

00:43:20.620 And so I was fortunate enough to get in the gallery, which oddly enough, there's, there can't be more than 100 or 200 seats in there.

00:43:27.280 So I was really lucky and watched that whole thing.

00:43:29.180 And I think what Mike is, is he is probably a very good example of a servant leader.

00:43:37.140 Now, to be a servant leader in a body like that, you need to have strong people around you because there's somebody has to be the enforcer in politics.

00:43:45.980 That's the way it is.

00:43:46.960 Whereas Kevin McCarthy was more, was just stronger.

00:43:50.920 Yeah, just much more like that.

00:43:52.560 And so I think he will be.

00:43:55.480 And I hope that people will continue to rally around him.

00:43:58.720 I was very disappointed in some of the people that didn't vote for him in the, when the, when it first came through.

00:44:04.300 Uh, I thought that was just a joke.

00:44:08.500 I was very glad that president Trump stepped in and helped with that.

00:44:12.560 And I'm glad they did something very smart that they didn't do with McCarthy.

00:44:15.820 They held the vote open.

00:44:18.680 See, because technically the Republicans still controlled the house.

00:44:21.480 So they controlled that whole process.

00:44:24.440 All right.

00:44:25.680 And so they led the, held the vote open rather than having to re vote again.

00:44:30.040 Right.

00:44:30.400 And so they just had to see if they could change these couple of people's minds and that's what they did.

00:44:35.200 Otherwise they'd had to go through all 435 again, which let me tell you, when you're sitting there watching that, that's a beat down.

00:44:41.200 Yeah.

00:44:41.640 Right.

00:44:41.980 Because every one of them have something special.

00:44:44.400 They want us, most of them just say Mike Johnson or Hakeem Jeffries, but some of them want to give a speech.

00:44:49.900 Yeah.

00:44:50.260 Right.

00:44:50.460 Which is like, oh, come on.

00:44:51.740 Of course they all do.

00:44:52.640 That's why they got into politics.

00:44:54.500 Are you surprised at the seeming lack of opposition that we've seen?

00:44:58.760 I mean, I, it just seems to me like it's been kind of quiet.

00:45:01.780 When Trump won last time, it was immediately Russian collusion.

00:45:05.840 This is not legitimate.

00:45:07.660 He cheated and all of this stuff.

00:45:09.820 And of course we had a clamoring on our own side when Biden won in 2020.

00:45:13.780 It just seems to be going more smoothly than I anticipated.

00:45:17.820 What do you think Democrats are planning?

00:45:20.120 Here's what I think that's happening.

00:45:21.440 First of all, I think the, they are being somewhat self-reflective in that obviously what we had didn't work.

00:45:31.660 Now we still, they still believe in their base beliefs, right?

00:45:35.700 But they are figuring how do we communicate better?

00:45:39.620 We know we're right.

00:45:40.860 Okay.

00:45:41.300 They still believe they're right, but how do we communicate it better?

00:45:45.020 Now, as soon as Trump starts taking official action, they will be just like they were in 2017.

00:45:54.500 And the media will be as well.

00:45:56.880 You think the media will be?

00:45:57.980 Because it seems like a lot of places, even like, you know, CNN, they're realizing that the anti-Trump gimmick is just kind of not working for them.

00:46:05.500 I just don't think Jake Kapper is going to change his stripes.

00:46:08.560 Probably not.

00:46:09.020 You know, maybe there'll be some, maybe there'll be more news related.

00:46:12.660 And again, I don't mind their opinion people criticizing if that's what they like.

00:46:18.620 I just want their news people to tell me the news though.

00:46:21.020 I don't want their news people to give me their opinion.

00:46:23.440 It's kind of like, kind of like my lawyer.

00:46:24.880 I've had to tell lawyers in the past when I've done business deals, I want your legal advice.

00:46:29.520 Do not give me your business advice.

00:46:31.380 I'm not hiring you to give me your business advice.

00:46:33.540 Right.

00:46:34.380 Stay in your lane.

00:46:35.460 Stay in your lane.

00:46:36.320 It's okay.

00:46:36.500 There's been such a shift in the culture towards some form of conservatism and towards Trump.

00:46:42.800 It's very different than 2016 that we've got comedians and even some celebrities and mainstream people who are probably moderate, but they're at least willing to say, yeah, I didn't want Kamala Harris.

00:46:53.660 Yeah.

00:46:53.760 That's really changed things.

00:46:55.020 That really has.

00:46:55.980 You know, I do believe that we as people of the Christian faith, back to Mike Johnson a little bit and others, and this people that Trump has appointed to some of his, you know, our good friend, my good friend, Scott Turner.

00:47:10.580 I mean, his, you know, his.

00:47:13.580 He's solid.

00:47:14.580 Solid.

00:47:15.320 Brooke Rollins, who's another friend of mine, who's going to be head of ag that basically oversees all of the welfare SNAP benefits.

00:47:23.040 I mean, it's, it's, these are huge, huge things that, and, and Susan Wiles evidently. 0.96

00:47:30.060 Yeah.

00:47:30.600 I don't know her, but we've heard that she does have a strong Christian faith.

00:47:34.320 Yeah, so I think we've got a really, now, this puts us out there on the spot, right?

00:47:40.640 Are we, are we going to follow through on it, right?

00:47:42.620 Yeah.

00:47:42.820 Are we going to compromise?

00:47:44.340 Yeah.

00:47:44.680 That's, that's really the, the question, but, you know, just like something we all know everything else.

00:47:48.860 It's going to be a brand new year and a brand new time.

00:47:51.400 Yeah.

00:47:51.860 You know, we haven't, and we don't have too much time to talk about it, but I'm just wondering if we're going to continue to see some of the attacks that we saw at the beginning of the year, even after Trump is president.

00:48:03.060 I just imagine just with a law and order administration, there will hopefully be more fear of committing any kinds of crimes, but it's been very disturbing to see like the homegrown terrorism that we have had to endure.

00:48:16.000 That's a good question.

00:48:18.180 We got to get the, the FBI re-centered and the Department of Justice and, and focusing on those types of things as opposed to focusing on the lady protesting outside the abortion clinic and things like that. 0.63

00:48:34.160 Yeah, or the parents at the school board meeting.

00:48:36.020 Oh yeah.

00:48:36.580 Hopefully that in itself will be a deterrent.

00:48:39.740 Yeah.

00:48:40.360 Gosh, I hope so too.

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00:50:04.240 I did want to give you the opportunity to talk a little bit about, I don't know if it's New Year's resolutions,

00:50:15.440 but what are some goals or some strategies that you put in place at the beginning of a year?

00:50:21.500 I noticed yesterday you avoided the term resolution.

00:50:24.860 Well, I don't typically have a resolution.

00:50:27.840 I do have some goals, but I don't know.

00:50:30.020 Do you have resolutions?

00:50:30.920 I don't know that I ever thought about it one way or the other.

00:50:33.920 Honestly, but here's, I do love the end of the year and the beginning of a new year.

00:50:40.020 It's some of my favorite times, not only because you spend time with family,

00:50:43.400 which we're able to do throughout the year.

00:50:45.860 It's because it seems like freshness, right?

00:50:49.400 And I'm somewhat of a numbers guy, so I like to look at all my financial numbers.

00:50:54.340 And then I like to think about, okay, we're in all the areas of our lives.

00:51:00.100 We're, what did we get done, right?

00:51:03.140 And so what I try to do, and I wrote this down, so I think it would be helpful to people,

00:51:07.980 is there are five, what I call five areas of people's lives.

00:51:12.680 It's their financial, their spiritual, their physical, their relationship, and their career.

00:51:18.300 Career and finance don't always go together, okay?

00:51:20.500 And so what I encourage people to do is to write those five things down.

00:51:25.460 It's financial, spiritual, physical, relationship, career, and do an honest assessment of where they are.

00:51:32.300 It's kind of like we talk about in my book.

00:51:34.620 You know, you need to know where you are in the wagon.

00:51:37.140 Where are you with your finances?

00:51:40.040 Where are you now?

00:51:41.140 Okay, at the year end, what did you spend?

00:51:44.420 What did you spend on?

00:51:46.100 All of your, wherever you have all your money, you can download all that information pretty easily.

00:51:52.360 Say, how did we spend our money?

00:51:53.800 Did we spend it the way we thought we were going to this year?

00:51:57.160 And then what would, when we sit here a year from now, what would we like for that to look like?

00:52:02.160 What would that need, what would that look like?

00:52:04.140 Did we kind of get out, do we have too many lattes or did we, did we, was there an unexpected thing come up?

00:52:09.720 Too much coffee and a treat for me.

00:52:11.720 Yeah, or whatever it was, right?

00:52:13.720 And so I encourage you to do that.

00:52:15.420 The other thing on the spiritual is I just want to pick one area to grow in, okay?

00:52:21.740 If I try to put too many things, like I want to pray more, I want to read my Bible more, I want to witness more.

00:52:26.840 Yeah, and they're too general.

00:52:27.480 It's just overwhelming.

00:52:28.380 I won't accomplish any of them.

00:52:30.380 I want to pick one area, okay?

00:52:34.300 And then in physical, I would encourage people, they can just Google this, go on to your biological age calculator.

00:52:41.700 Oh, no.

00:52:42.100 It's a questionnaire.

00:52:43.560 And wherever it is, is that, are you happy with that?

00:52:46.020 If not, where do you want that to be?

00:52:48.020 And then what, again, it's kind of down to one thing.

00:52:50.800 What are you going to do about it?

00:52:52.620 But again, if you do too much, well, I'm going to, I'm going to eat right and exercise and da, da, da, da.

00:52:57.640 You won't do all that.

00:52:58.640 I mean, very few people do all that.

00:53:00.380 And then when you get down to relationship, this is probably the harder one is, who do I need to reconcile with?

00:53:08.320 Who in my life do I need to reconcile with?

00:53:12.040 And the second part of that is, who do I need to reconnect with?

00:53:15.560 And we all need to do that.

00:53:18.500 You know, it's easy just to move on and what have you.

00:53:22.440 And then career, it's does my current job meet or put me on a path that can meet my financial goals?

00:53:31.820 Now, it doesn't mean that you should change jobs to make more money, but you need to, the two have to match up.

00:53:42.320 Like if, like if you're really passionate about what you do and people know you are, all right?

00:53:49.960 But you can make more money doing X, okay?

00:53:53.980 Being a software engineer, maybe, right?

00:53:56.080 Yeah.

00:53:56.120 Wow.

00:53:56.840 That doesn't mean you should be a software engineer.

00:53:59.160 It might mean you need to adjust your financial lifestyle to meet what you're really passionate about.

00:54:04.020 Yeah.

00:54:04.180 Now, for me, I liked my job, my work, my business, but it was really all about financial for me, okay?

00:54:12.500 I wasn't-

00:54:13.380 Providing for your family.

00:54:14.800 Yeah, that's what was-

00:54:15.620 Not just making money for the sake of money, but you just, you wanted freedom and flexibility for your family.

00:54:21.240 I wanted to eliminate financial mediocrity and give us a base and y'all a base to start with.

00:54:25.600 And if I needed to have changed the industry that I was working in to do that, then I would, it wouldn't have bothered me.

00:54:32.000 Yeah.

00:54:32.220 Okay?

00:54:32.520 But that's not the same for everybody.

00:54:34.380 You weren't passionate about retirement for pilots, necessarily.

00:54:35.820 No, I loved it.

00:54:36.820 It was a great job.

00:54:37.680 I'm very blessed to have had that career, but that wasn't the thing for me.

00:54:41.680 For some people, that's not that way, right?

00:54:43.520 Yeah.

00:54:43.980 And so they have to adjust their other.

00:54:45.160 And people do need to hear that that's okay, because I have friends, people in my life who sometimes they have felt paralyzed because, for me, okay, I always knew that I liked to talk.

00:54:55.000 Really?

00:54:55.500 I know.

00:54:56.140 You're surprised by that.

00:54:57.300 I'm letting you know that for the first time.

00:54:58.740 But I have always known that I wanted to do something like this.

00:55:02.720 In high school, I thought it would look like Megyn Kelly.

00:55:04.860 I just wanted to be like Megyn Kelly.

00:55:06.500 Obviously, the landscape changed, and I was able to do something like this.

00:55:09.980 And I think some people believe that that is the only picture of fulfillment and success, that you have to find what you love doing as a hobby and find a way to make money doing that.

00:55:21.420 Sometimes, yes, but not always.

00:55:24.340 And that doesn't mean just because you don't have a clear-cut dream or specific passion that aligns with the way to make money does not mean you cannot be successful or fulfilled.

00:55:33.680 No, you have two choices.

00:55:36.680 You can either, like for me, it was the things outside of work where I got my fulfillment, right?

00:55:43.260 I enjoyed my work, but I got my fulfillment because it helped me to be able to accomplish the things that I wanted to accomplish.

00:55:51.600 For other people, the fulfillment is their career, and whatever that pays them is what it is, and they need to reduce their financial budget or needs to meet that.

00:56:07.760 Otherwise, it will cause tremendous conflict within themselves, for sure, but even more likely in their marriage relationship.

00:56:18.600 That has to be very clear.

00:56:22.180 Yeah.

00:56:22.460 Can't have it both ways.

00:56:24.000 I'm about to be 33 next month.

00:56:26.400 What would you tell your 33-year-old self if you were sitting across from him?

00:56:30.600 I would tell my 33-year-old self I was sitting across from him that it's going to be okay.

00:56:37.280 Because at 33, it's odd that you're saying that.

00:56:39.600 At 33, I had my boss walked in, the owners of our company that owned the majority of it walked into me and said, hey, we're getting ready to fire the CEO of this company, and you'll be the CEO starting next week.

00:56:54.540 Or if you don't like that, you can leave as well.

00:57:00.020 And so my friend, who was CEO but had done some things, not illegal or anything like that, but just conflict-wise, was fired.

00:57:11.020 And it was a very nervous time for me.

00:57:14.400 I was 33.

00:57:16.740 And your mom had just had your favorite daughter.

00:57:18.760 Yeah, just had my favorite daughter.

00:57:20.140 And so how am I going to take care of all of that?

00:57:23.200 But it would just be that it's going to be okay.

00:57:26.660 That things are going to be okay.

00:57:28.240 Pay attention.

00:57:29.700 I mean, I didn't work any less.

00:57:31.320 I worked probably more.

00:57:32.320 But pay attention.

00:57:33.280 But it's going to be okay.

00:57:35.700 That's very good.

00:57:37.080 I did just want to give a shout-out.

00:57:38.960 You mentioned the spiritual.

00:57:40.800 And I kind of have the same categories of goals, resolutions that I have written out as well.

00:57:46.580 But a lot of people have asked me, okay, spiritually, what are you doing this year?

00:57:51.040 So many people are wanting to read the Bible for the first time this year.

00:57:55.180 I had a friend the other day saying, you know, I feel like I should know more about the Bible.

00:57:59.780 And now that I'm a mom, I want to teach my daughter, and I don't feel like I know enough.

00:58:03.860 And this is one of those things where it can very quickly become overwhelming if you say, well, I'm just going to read the Bible this year.

00:58:10.360 Whew, that's tough.

00:58:11.400 That's really hard.

00:58:12.060 So I'm doing something that I haven't done before, and this is not – like, I haven't done this particular program, and so I can't endorse all of the interpretations and opinions that might be shared.

00:58:24.360 But I'm doing the Bible Recap, and I've had Tara Lee Cobble on before.

00:58:29.360 She started the Bible Recap podcast a few years ago.

00:58:32.560 Go listen to the episode with her if you haven't already.

00:58:35.520 But she's got a chronological reading plan.

00:58:38.060 So it's not Genesis to Revelation.

00:58:39.680 We started in Genesis.

00:58:41.380 Now we're in Job.

00:58:43.220 And I have been listening.

00:58:45.100 And I think that that could be a cheat code for a lot of busy moms out there that maybe you're like, I don't even have 20 minutes in the morning to sit down and read. 1.00

00:58:53.840 I have something called the Dwell app.

00:58:56.220 And, again, this is not an ad or anything, but I listen in my car on a walk, folding laundry, cleaning the dishes, and I can listen to the passages on the Dwell app.

00:59:09.520 And then I can listen to Tara Lee Cobble's Recap, and she does a really good job of everything that I've heard so far.

00:59:16.280 So maybe that's something that you want to join in on.

00:59:18.540 I love my ESV study Bible.

00:59:21.360 You can get it for maybe $18 on Amazon.

00:59:24.260 They also have plans at the back of that.

00:59:26.640 But let this be your year.

00:59:28.540 If you get behind on it, it's no big deal.

00:59:31.660 Think of it as, I heard this analogy a few years ago, think about reading your Bible as eating.

00:59:38.820 Just because you forgot to eat breakfast this morning doesn't mean that you're not going to eat lunch.

00:59:43.880 You eat because you need food, and so you eat as much as you can when you can.

00:59:49.600 Don't think of it as this perfectionist task.

00:59:52.800 And it's okay if you don't understand everything, too.

00:59:55.700 Yeah, that's a really good lesson.

00:59:58.620 You know, even if you only get through half of it, that's half more than you had.

01:00:05.800 So, again, it is okay.

01:00:09.460 But I do believe that as Christians, we got what we asked for, for the most part.

01:00:17.060 So now we need to act on it.

01:00:18.480 It's not time to sit idly by.

01:00:20.420 Remember that.

01:00:21.760 You're talking about with Trump.

01:00:23.040 With everything.

01:00:24.000 Yeah.

01:00:24.740 Satan is out there every day.

01:00:27.320 He has not given up.

01:00:28.700 No.

01:00:29.000 And so we've got to be on guard, and we will be.

01:00:31.900 And we can't expect for other people to do everything for us.

01:00:34.400 Yeah.

01:00:34.620 And actually, he could use this time that we're about to see, hopefully it's a time of

01:00:39.720 prosperity and positive change, to lull us into complacency.

01:00:43.900 It's easy to do.

01:00:44.460 All you've got to do, when you're reading your Bible through, you'll see that time and time

01:00:48.060 and time again.

01:00:49.400 The greatest king of all outside of Jesus, King David, sure happened to him.

01:00:55.980 Mm-hmm.

01:00:56.640 Absolutely.

01:00:57.260 Well, thank you so much, Dad.

01:00:58.780 And I do want to remind people, because I saw this repost on my Instagram.

01:01:02.220 Someone started out the year reading Life Lessons from the Little Red Wagon.

01:01:06.460 And I'm not just saying this.

01:01:07.620 This is, I would say, more than my books that I've written.

01:01:10.780 This is a great book to start your year out on.

01:01:13.960 Of course, you can read it at any time.

01:01:16.080 But it's just a very practical, it's storytelling, but it's also a practical guide for how you can

01:01:22.900 order your life in a way that is not just biblical, but lends itself to wisdom and success.

01:01:27.960 So you can follow the link in the description of this episode.

01:01:31.520 Dad, thanks so much.

01:01:32.980 Thank you.

01:01:33.900 Congratulations on getting another year going.

01:01:36.060 It's going to be awesome.

01:01:36.860 Thanks.

01:01:37.480 You bet.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 07, 2025

Ep 1118 ｜ The Great H-1B Debate & the Keys to Keeping Resolutions

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