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- January 16, 2025
Ep 1124 | Is the Church to Blame for Andrew Tate?
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Andrew Tate says that he is running for prime minister of the UK. Is that even possible? And
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why do so many conservatives seem to believe that he is a guy worth admiring? We will remind
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ourselves of who Andrew Tate is on today's episode of Relatable. And we will also be looking at the
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lowlights of Biden's presidency in light of his farewell address last night. We've also got a hot
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take from AOC and the pushback that Carrie Underwood is unfortunately suffering through
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right now. All on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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We've got so much to get into today. I have failed my resolution over the past two days and keeping
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our episodes under an hour. So close, so close. But today I will try my darndest to accomplish
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that even though I seem to be the only one amongst us who really cares because y'all out there don't
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seem to care at all. Before we get into it, I just want to tease a little bit of an announcement.
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Share the Arrows 2024 was such a huge success beyond anything we could have imagined when we first
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planned it. And we really only had a few months to plan it last year. This year, thankfully, we have
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a lot more time to plan and Share the Arrows 2025 is going to happen this fall. We are going to announce
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very, very soon the location and the date. Tickets will go on sale soon. Don't worry, I'm going to give
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you all of the details on that. But I want you to be on the lookout because this year is going to be a
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little bit different. It is possible that it could sell out. And so if you are planning to come back to
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Share the Arrows 2025 and don't worry, it's going to be fresh and a little bit different from last
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year, but also very similar. And so you're going to get the same power, the same encouragement that
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you got this past year, but shaking things up just a little bit. Or if you couldn't come last year and
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you're like, okay, this is the year I'm going to make it, I really encourage you to just be on the
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lookout because I will be making an announcement soon. And I'm just so excited. Lord willing, it is going
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to be even better and more edifying than it was in 2024. So I just wanted to make sure that that was
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already percolating in your brain so that you can keep your eyes peeled. All right. First,
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a very brief update on what is going on on Capitol Hill right now. We are just a few days out from the
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inauguration. Praise God. And Trump's picks are going through confirmation hearings. We talked about
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Pete Hedgeseth and all of the crazy hysterical back and forth that he had to endure. Marco Rubio went
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through his confirmation hearing yesterday. Pam Bondi, her confirmation hearing for attorney general,
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several others like Kristi Noem, Sean Duffy, Russ Vogt, John Ratcliffe. I think that these are all going
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to be really effective picks and hopefully they will be confirmed. The hearings happening today on
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Thursday include Doug Burgum for the Interior Department, Scott Turner for the Housing and
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Urban Development Department. I've actually known Scott Turner for a long time. He served in the
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legislature in Texas with my dad. Really, really good guy. Such a solid pick and a very, very strong,
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solid Christian. A lot of these picks, from what I know, have a solid faith in Christ. And that is
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something to just celebrate. That in itself is a reason for all Christians to be grateful because
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that was not the case in Biden's administration. It would not have been the case in a Kamala
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administration. So that in itself is just such a grace. Lee Zeldin for the EPA, Scott Besant for the
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Treasury Department, and Pam Bondi will go before the Senate Judiciary Committee for a second day.
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And then also, Christine Ohm, she's going to go through her hearings. I think I accidentally said
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that she had already gone through hers. She's expected to appear on Friday. Doug Collins for
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the Department of Veterans Affairs. It's expected to appear the day after the inauguration. So next
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Tuesday, there are still some other candidates whose dates have not yet been selected. None of his picks
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have been confirmed as of this recording. According to Newsweek, it usually takes between
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one and two weeks between clearing the committee and the full Senate vote. And so that is just
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a very brief update of what's going on. We just don't have time to get into all of the specifics
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because I want to make sure that we look at some of the highlights, if you will, if you can even call
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it that, of Biden's farewell address. I have never been more excited to see someone say goodbye.
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And once we get into some of the lowlights of Biden's presidency, you will understand why
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I'm saying that. I'm just going to play you this, how Biden sees the state of the country and the
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state of the future of America. No surprise. It's very dark and pessimistic. Here's Sot One.
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Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power and influence that literally
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threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms, and a fair shot for everyone to get
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ahead. We see the consequences all across America. And we've seen it before.
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Okay, so he just kind of goes on on that. And that, of course, is the rallying cry that we have heard
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from Democrats for several years now that Republicans are a threat to democracy, that Donald Trump is some
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kind of dictator, that he's so similar to Hitler and taking us on a fast track to Nazism. It's all
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ridiculous. I know that that resonates. For some people on the left, I'm not sure that most people
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are buying that now. And if you're a Democrat, I just want you to rest assured that that picture,
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that bleak picture of an anti-democratic future is not real. Okay, it's not founded in reality that has
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been used to stoke fear and anger and resentment. So you will continue to give the failing Democratic
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Party more power. And I say failing because if you look at every single city in which progressive
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policies have increasingly dominated over the past 10 years, they've all deteriorated. They've all
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gotten worse. They've all gotten less safe. They've all gotten dirtier. It's not really a mystery that
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the Democrats' progressive policies not only don't work, but they're actually harmful. They're
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actually dangerous. They're actually bad. They make your life worse. They make it less safe and dirtier
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and more expensive. And so in order to get you to continue to vote for the people whose policies
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so tangibly fail so consistently, they have to tell you that the other side is even worse because they
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are a threat to democracy. They're a threat to your freedoms. The only so-called freedom that they're
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talking about, though, just as a reminder to you, as we talked about so much in the campaign,
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when Democrats talk about freedom, they are talking about sexual perversion and abortion.
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That's it. They're not talking about your free speech. They're not talking about your
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right to defend yourself. They're not talking about freedom of religion. They are talking about
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libertinism, the freedom to act out any kind of sexual perversion that you would like and be
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celebrated for it. They're talking about the so-called freedom to declare yourself a gender that you
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will never be, no matter how you self-identify. They are talking about the freedom to kill your child.
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So they're talking about sexual promiscuity, sexual perversion, and killing your baby. And I guess
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the degeneracy that includes smoking pot wherever you want to. They're not talking about your
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constitutional rights. And so that, when they say they're protecting democracy, those are the only
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freedoms that they really care about protecting at the end of the day. So just rest assured that you
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will actually be safer and very likely more prosperous because of Trump's policies versus Biden's. So just be
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comforted by that if you are on the other side of the aisle and you're so scared that this fascist is
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about to take office. Biden had several complaints. He said that social media companies aren't doing
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enough to censor America. American social media is giving up on fact checking. Yes, because the fact
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checking that social media has done thus far, companies like Meta, formerly Twitter, has been very
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arbitrary because the fact checking is being done by people who are ideologically driven, not by people who
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are driven by objective facts. Biden claimed that his administration brought a violent crime down to
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a 50-year low. Of course, that's just not true. Most of that doesn't even happen on the federal level,
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whether Trump is in office or Biden is in office. They do have some impact on that, but not as much as
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at the state and local level. According to the Marshall Project in 2023, they said more than 6,000 law
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enforcement agencies were missing from the FBI's national crime data last year, representing nearly
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one-third of the nation's 18,000 police agencies. So this means that a quarter of the U.S. population
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wasn't represented in the federal crime data last year. And if you look at what data is missing, very
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often it's those big progressive cities where so much of the crime is happening. And so I wanted to go
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through some of the lowlights of Biden's presidency. And so you can understand why I and so many others
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and most of you are extremely giddy to see him leave. It's not it's not cruelty. It's not being
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politically petty. It is actually because I love my neighbor. That's why I am happy that the Biden
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administration is coming to an end. So we'll get into five lowlights in just a second. Let me pause and
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Okay, let's quickly go through some lowlights of his presidency. We were discussing this over some
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messages yesterday and it was really hard to narrow it down. Like what were the to narrow it down to
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five because we could spend many, many episodes as we did when Biden was president talking about what
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are the worst parts of his presidency. So this was tough. This was our bottom five, but I am sure many
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of you have other memories out there or if you're thinking how could you not possibly include this?
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This was a huge one. Like I said, it was tough and these are subjective and so they're always
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subject to change. We can debate in the YouTube comments if you would like about what were the
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very worst parts of Biden's presidency and I would love to hear from you your opinion about that.
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The first lowlight that came to my mind was the Afghanistan withdrawal and I feel like we don't
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talk about that enough. I know there are some in the media world that still discuss just what a
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disaster this was, but the loss of life, the avoidable loss of life was so tragic. So just as a
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reminder, in April of 2021, Biden ordered the complete withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan
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without any of the conditions that Trump had previously negotiated. This was despite warnings
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from U.S. military officials that the Taliban would take over. According to the Foreign Affairs
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Committee, the withdrawal culminated in the Abbey Gate terrorist attack on August 26, 2021. So this is what
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we all remember, which killed 13 U.S. service members, wounding another 45 and killed more than
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170 Afghan civilians. Like you'll remember those videos that we saw of U.S. planes taking off
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and like Afghans, like the men literally like holding on to the planes and falling off the planes
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to their death. They didn't want to be left there under Taliban rule. It was just such a disaster.
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Biden also left the Taliban over seven billion dollars worth of military equipment. So it was so
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catastrophic that there was really no plan to get the weaponry out of Afghanistan before the troops
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withdrew. And so now you've got this evil regime of the Taliban there with access to all of this
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deadly weaponry. Number two, I would say it was the North Carolina disaster. This is another low light
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of the Biden presidency. In September 2024, Category 4 Hurricane Helene caused destruction and the deaths
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of at least 230 people was particularly devastating for North Carolina. And we still have many,
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many in the southeast, in particular North Carolina, still recovering from this and will be for a long
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time. As the storm was making landfall, President Biden spent the weekend at his beach house in
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Delaware. Vice President Harris was campaigning in Las Vegas. As residents in rural North Carolina
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struggled with recovery, FEMA was ordering its workers to quote unquote avoid homes advertising Trump
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when identifying residents who could qualify for federal aid. That is a real story. We reported on it at the
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time that came from Daily Wire originally. We can put a link in the description of this episode. And
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really, Biden and Harris, they had very little to say, even in the way of comfort when it came to North
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Carolina residents. And as far as I remember, I don't think Biden visited North Carolina at all.
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If I am wrong about that, forgive me, but that was part of this disaster that they just simply did not
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show the same compassion, the same passion for the people of North Carolina as he has certainly for
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the residents of California. And it's unclear why. It certainly wasn't a good campaign decision.
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Number three, COVID mandates. In September 2021, Biden issued an executive order requiring federal
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workers to be vaccinated. Later that month, he ordered a sweeping vaccination mandate for businesses
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with more than 100 employees, which the Supreme Court think the Lord later blocked. And many
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companies did say, we're just not doing that and you're going to have to fight us over it. In October
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2021, Biden said he believed police officers and first responders who refused the vaccine should be
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fired. And of course, California did do that. As we talked about earlier this week, the LA Fire
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Department let go of, I think it was over a hundred firefighters who refused to get that experimental
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vaccine. Oh, by the way, I just want to pause. I saw some comment the other day saying, oh, you can't
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listen to Allie Stuckey because she got the COVID vaccine. First of all, that's silly. And secondly,
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no, I did not. I did not. No one in my family did. No, I did not get the COVID vaccine. You're a crazy
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person. Anyway, so this mandate, completely unconstitutional, completely draconian, stupid,
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led to many consequences. Biden personally thanked Coast Guard member Zach Lash for his heroics and
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rescuing Hurricane Ian victims, but then forced the same hero to be dismissed days later for not
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getting vaccinated via his policy. Another low light of the Biden presidency was their unabashed
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celebration of transgenderism. You'll remember they had this pride day in 2023 in which a trans
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activist, a man who dresses up as believes that he is a woman actually did like a topless photo for the
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camera in front of the White House, which was very disturbing. They also hung up the so-called pride
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progress flag, which inexplicably includes like black and brown for people's skin color. I don't
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understand, but also includes the transgender weird creepo baby colors flag in the flag. And so they
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hung that from the White House there to have their pride celebration. And of course, just in general,
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the unabashed celebration of this dangerous and harmful lie that a man can become a woman, that a man can
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enter girl spaces, etc. Within hours of taking the oath of office, President Biden signed an executive
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order, quote, preventing and combating discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation, trying to
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make it impossible for any entity, especially an entity that specifically an entity that takes federal
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funds to say, sorry, these spaces are reserved for actual women. In April, the Biden administration
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announced it would redefine sex in the Title IX rules to include gender identity requiring schools to ignore
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the biological distinction between male and female in favor of, quote, an individual's sense of their
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gender. So again, no protected spaces for girls and women. That was a high priority of the Biden
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administration. They fully support the genital mutilation of minors and the name of self-identity.
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And then I would say lastly, but certainly not least, has been the disaster at the border, just the
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dereliction of duty when it comes to immigration policy and protecting innocent people like Blake and
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Riley. Because of their catch in the perpetuation of the catch and release policy, because they fought
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tooth and nail against every good and wise policy that the Trump administration had put in
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place, people died. And it was a disaster. I think one specific low light that I can recall from
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that was the time that Border Patrol agents were trying to stop an illegal Haitian migrant. There was a
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Border Patrol agent that was on his horse. And you'll remember there was a picture of him grabbing his
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shirt. And you had people, even social justice evangelicals, saying, this is like the slave patrol.
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This is this is racism. Somehow a Border Patrol agent doing his job. And he was put on temporary leave
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while the Biden administration and Mayorkas investigated this guy to see if there was any
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wrongdoing because he grabbed the shirt of someone who had no right to be crossing our border,
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taking away the buoys and any barriers that Texas put in place.
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The federal government under Biden's direction, taking away barbed wire, taking away the buoys that
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Texas had had implemented, had put in place to try to protect its border. I would say that that was
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certainly a low light. There are many other things that come to mind when I think of
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the DOJ going after parents who sounded the alarm at school board meetings about porn, progressive
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ideology, infiltrating their kids curriculum. The DOJ seeming to deem these parents domestic
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terrorists. I would certainly call that a low light. And so five was just it was just not enough.
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There are so many other aspects of the presidency that were so wicked and so bad for the country that
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we just we don't even have time to get into them all. So sayonara, farewell. We are about to go into
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a week of celebration of Trump taking office yet again. We're excited about that. All right. I just
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want to before we get into the Andrew Tate segment, I just want to respond really quickly to AOC,
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Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, as we are talking about the insanity of transgenderism and the danger that it
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poses especially to vulnerable children, especially to women and girls who just want safety in their
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own spaces, who just want a fair shot in athletics and who want to be able to compete for scholarships
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without having to compete against a man who is on average so much bigger and stronger and faster
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than her. Thankfully, Republicans passed in the House, passed the Protection of Women and Girls in
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Sports Act that is supposed to protect those women who want to compete fairly. But AOC Democrat in
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Congress, she was very upset about this. And so she went on her sassy rant on the House floor this
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week. And I just got to respond to it. Here's thought to trans girls are girls. And for all the folks
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that are so concerned, thank you for your concern about women for the first time that I've seen.
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I don't know about y'all. I don't know who's been to gym class lately, but girls, even if you only
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believe in two genders, I've played co-ed sports all the time. Do you? But what this also opens the door
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for is for women to try to perform a very specific kind of femininity for the very kind of men who are
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drafting this bill and to open up questioning of who is a woman because of how we look, how we present
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ourselves and, yes, what we choose to do with our bodies? What like what are you even talking about?
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So you see the threat of women feeling like they have to perform a certain kind of femininity,
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whatever the heck that means, is a bigger threat than a fully intact male going into a girl's bathroom
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or locker room or taking the scholarships away from girls in track or soccer or volleyball. Like,
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you see, that very obscure abstract thing is a bigger threat than the tangible threat of men in
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women's spaces. Even if you believe in two genders, she said, there are two genders. You are the person
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who believes this superstitious, spiritual, new age nonsense that someone can declare themselves
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something different than what their biology tells them. You believe this idea that you can feel a
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certain way and that trumps biological reality, that how you feel that the ideas that you have about
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yourself actually inform reality more than physical reality does. And so you are the one that believes
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some pseudo-religious doctrine of self-identification that is actually rooted in demonic lunacy. And you
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believe that everyone should conform to you and progressive ideologues, religious, weirdo, freakazoid ideas
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about gender. And we should not have to. Like, we can disagree on different policy ideas. We cannot disagree on the facts
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and function together as a society. And one of the most fundamental facts that has been observed in every
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society for all of time is the fundamental difference between male and female. Don't ever tell me that you care about
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women's rights. Don't ever tell me that you care about protecting girls when you can't even define what
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these things are. AOC only cares about protecting women's rights when it means being able to kill a baby girl
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inside the womb. That is her definition of protecting women and girls. She doesn't actually care. And she's
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really not articulate or smart. Can I just say that? I know some people out there are going to be like,
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oh, that's too far. Some personal attack. Let me remind you that she's advocating for something evil. And the
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combination of stupidity and evil is really, really dangerous. There are a lot of historical examples of
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that, but we just saw one right there. She's making history. The combination of evil and stupid is very,
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very dangerous. We should really stop giving legitimately dumb people power. We live almost, it seems, in a
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cakeistocracy, where we are rewarding people for their idiocy if they are simply able to repeat what we want them
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to say. I would encourage both Republicans and Democrats to stop doing that. But one example of us giving people
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prominence in power who are really stupid and really do not deserve to have any prominence or power
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influence at all is Andrew Tate. So we are going to get into that in just a second. Let me pause and tell
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Andrew Tate. Why are we talking about Andrew Tate again? We did an episode on him a couple years ago
00:28:47.660
that was, for a while, it was my most listened to episode ever. Not most watched, but most listened
00:28:55.980
to. I don't know. It might still be. And that surprised me at the time. I guess that just goes
00:29:00.760
to show there are definitely people talking about the dangers of Andrew Tate. I am not even close to
00:29:06.680
the only one. But there aren't enough conservative commentators talking about the danger of Andrew
00:29:12.920
Tate, because there are many that make excuses for him who like to say that, well, he's saying
00:29:17.840
true things about feminism. He's saying true things about society becoming too effeminate. He is
00:29:23.660
encouraging men to be strong and to be confident and to be successful and gritty and all of these
00:29:30.060
things. So there are some, it's not positive, Andrew Tate, on young men. And we should blame feminism
00:29:36.780
for men rebelling against the cultural zeitgeist and following Andrew Tate. That's some of the debate,
00:29:45.780
the discussion, some of the opinions that you'll see on the right. And you will see conservatives
00:29:52.040
unabashedly, without caveat, uncritically platform Andrew Tate and say, well, he's got interesting
00:30:00.140
things to say about society. So I'm just going to forget the rest of everything that he is.
00:30:05.740
And I'm going to platform him without pushing back at all on the things that he has said.
00:30:13.240
And it's not just, oh, yeah, he's like said some offensive things or he has a bad past that he's
00:30:18.960
really ashamed of now, because certainly I don't think that people are perfect or that you have to
00:30:23.480
be perfect or that you have to have like a squeaky clean past to have anything interesting to say
00:30:28.680
or to be platformed or interviewed. It's not that. It's that I think that to this day, he is
00:30:38.820
very much a net negative when it comes to his influence. I don't think that he has interesting
00:30:46.100
things to say. I don't think he brings anything unique to the table that needs to be listened to
00:30:50.740
by young men, especially in light of everything else he says and does. So again, why are we talking
00:30:57.160
about this right now? Why is he making headlines? Let me give you some background first. He's a
00:31:02.920
British-American social media influencer, 10.5 million followers on X, 2 million on Rumble.
00:31:08.760
He became popular by posting often controversial advice to young men about how to be more masculine,
00:31:14.540
make more money. That was about a decade ago. And he, as we will talk about, he basically ran a
00:31:22.900
pimping business, an Ecamm business where he would hire girls to make money for him by doing virtual
00:31:31.140
porn sessions with lots of male customers around the world. The women would take a tiny cut of the
00:31:39.380
money and then Tate and his brother, I believe, would take most of the money. And so he also sold
00:31:46.740
courses on how men can become pimps and how men can get women to do whatever they want them to do.
00:31:56.500
Now he claims he is a Muslim. He recently converted to Islam. He's extremely popular in the UK. A 2023
00:32:03.740
survey found that 8 in 10 British boys ages 16 and 17 had consumed Tate's content. He moved to Romania
00:32:09.980
in 2017. He's publicly stated that one significant reason for moving was to evade potential legal
00:32:15.800
repercussions in the UK, particularly related to sexual assault allegations. In 2017, he was a big
00:32:22.560
supporter of Donald Trump. He met with Donald Trump Jr. at Trump Tower in August 2017. In 2023,
00:32:30.140
he appeared on Tucker Carlson's show. He's been on many other conservative shows as well. Tate has
00:32:35.900
referred to himself as a pimp. He gained his wealth, again, by manipulating women and girls into
00:32:41.140
performing for his pornographic webcam business. He has admitted openly, and we'll go through some of
00:32:48.240
these admissions that he has recorded and posted. He has admitted to assaulting these women, continues
00:32:55.900
to prove, I think, what I would call his moral bankruptcy through his recent words. He faces charges
00:33:04.020
right now in Romania for human trafficking, for trafficking of minors, for forming an organized
00:33:09.900
criminal group, sexual intercourse with a minor, and money laundering. Now, he denies these allegations.
00:33:17.500
He says that they're not true. He says that the Matrix is out to get him because he is disrupting the
00:33:24.300
feminist system, and the Matrix doesn't want men to be strong, and he's helping men be strong, and so
00:33:30.700
these allegations are true. So I do need to say that he denies most, if not all, of these allegations.
00:33:37.800
He and his brother, Tristan, also have a British arrest warrant for charges of rape and human
00:33:42.560
trafficking. They will be extradited after Romanian trial proceedings, which have yet to be
00:33:49.640
scheduled. There's a lot of, like, back and forth about that. Why is he being talked about right now?
00:33:55.900
Following the recent outrage of Britain's handling of the grooming gang scandal, Andrew Tate announced
00:34:00.700
his intention to, quote-unquote, run for prime minister of the UK, along with the creation of his new
00:34:05.240
political party, BRUV, British slang for brother, which stands for Britain Restoring Underlying
00:34:11.740
Values. He posted this on Axe. He said, ultra-serious posts. Should I enter politics and run for prime
00:34:20.940
minister of the UK? 69% of people said, yes, save Britain, what Britain is spelled incorrectly.
00:34:28.180
It is worth noting that the UK does not elect prime ministers by popular vote, by the way. So when he says
00:34:33.720
that he's running for prime minister, there's a little confusion about that. How exactly is he
00:34:38.420
going to do that? Also worth knowing, because there is a warrant for Tate's arrest in Great Britain,
00:34:42.700
he will be extradited as soon as those criminal cases again in Romania are concluded. We already
00:34:47.920
said that. Just before his prime minister announcement in December, Romanian Court of Appeals
00:34:52.900
sent the human trafficking case brought against the Tate brothers back to the prosecutors
00:34:57.700
rather than proceeding to trial, citing flaws in the indictment. While the case against him is not
00:35:04.680
dismissed, Tate presented the recent legal rulings as evidence of his innocence and political
00:35:11.760
prosecution in an attempt to align himself with Trump. So he said this, he said, Trump accused of
00:35:17.060
sex crimes. Tate's accused of sex crimes. Trump vilified by old recordings making jokes.
00:35:22.620
Tate vilified by old recordings making jokes. You can tell me if the recordings that we're about
00:35:27.700
to show you look like jokes. You can decide. Trump false court cases in lawfare. Tate false court
00:35:34.180
cases in lawfare. Trump wins. Tate wins. So he's basically saying that he is a Trumpian figure.
00:35:39.680
Tate appears to be aligning himself with other conservative figures, including a recent interview
00:35:44.000
with popular conservative host Benny Johnson. Many other conservatives have been debating Tate's
00:35:51.340
role and influence on politics. For example, on Sunday, Ben Shapiro's show was titled The Right Should
00:35:55.280
Dump, Andrew Tate, which, of course, I absolutely agree with. So I'm just going to play you.
00:36:02.620
We'll just go through each of these clips. Tate speaking in his own words. He claims that this was
00:36:13.460
all you'll see in this montage that all of his sordid past was more than a decade ago, that he's not
00:36:20.980
involved in pimping anymore. But you really need to watch this montage on YouTube because in some of
00:36:27.200
these clips, you will see the date of when he is saying these things on the screen, which were not
00:36:35.760
10 years ago. We're talking about like 2021, 2022. He was talking about pimping women out and teaching
00:36:44.140
men how to pimp women and how he makes his money by exploiting women. And he's also talking about
00:36:50.320
abusing women, beating women. I guess he could say that's a joke, very strange thing to joke about.
00:36:56.320
Again, not all of this was 10 years ago. And he hasn't said, by the way, this was part of my past.
00:37:02.300
I don't do this anymore. I feel sorry for that. He claims that all of this was a decade ago. I guess
00:37:07.420
that's his like excuse or his way of repenting. But again, that is not even true. So let's just go
00:37:14.220
ahead and play all together. Sot three through six. I have to curse her. She obeys me. I don't give
00:37:21.300
it about having such a beautiful woman. I them so they listen to me so I can get what I actually want,
00:37:27.520
which is not them. It's a means to an end. Every single Bond girl was exploited.
00:37:33.000
That's exactly what I do. When I watch a Bond film and I see him basically pimp a b**** to me,
00:37:40.960
that speaks to my heart. I've been there. I've done that. Anyone who's followed me long enough
00:37:46.180
knows that I first made my million dollars with a webcam business. I have met beautiful women with
00:37:50.980
a good personality and thought she will make me money. I have to f*** this b****. I don't want to have
00:37:55.620
sex. I just need the money. My webcam company, things that happened 10 years ago. And that was a past
00:38:00.500
life. You're talking about something that happened 10 years ago. You do that still?
00:38:04.040
Um, I recently, I have three girls who still work for me. I'm being told I'm the worst
00:38:08.180
person in the world by people who pretended they've never done anything wrong for the
00:38:10.540
last 10 years. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago.
00:38:13.880
The idea that you did something 10 years ago. The last two to three years I've been making
00:38:16.980
money on OnlyFans from its inception all the way up till now. Currently filming this
00:38:20.640
during the COVID pandemic. You may be watching this later on, but right now during the pandemic.
00:38:24.620
10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago.
00:38:29.360
10 years ago it was 10 years but then when corona came i scaled it back up right so i got a bunch
00:38:34.460
i got 20 more girls online we scaled that back up to three or four hundred thousand dollars a month
00:38:38.660
don't your girls have your name tattooed on them 20 girls have my name tattooed on them and how
00:38:44.720
many girl how many girls have their have your name on them now 22 i'm on 22 oh man he wanted me to
00:38:51.520
get his name tattooed at all costs he wanted me to tattoo his name on you yeah the branding actually
00:39:01.180
comes up in the 86 page document that was obtained from romania let me read part of that it says the
00:39:06.800
criminal activities of these defendants are a form of slavery according to the prosecutor's office
00:39:12.220
like 19th century u.s slave owners who branded their slaves with a red iron you know what they
00:39:18.800
didn't teach you in self-defense here's a little move when i grab you by your neck and you start
00:39:23.080
annoying me trying to resist and i just and then i grab you by your neck again then what the you're
00:39:28.560
doing your face is collapsed and your cheekbones broken you're gonna do but cry i guarantee i
00:39:33.880
changed the way you look at sex forever you're gonna be crying i won't cry i bet you cried i bet
00:39:39.860
you cry you're saying i wouldn't cry you're challenging me to a fight you're saying i can't
00:39:46.060
hurt you right your mind i don't even have you forget the sex part that's a distraction
00:39:52.360
okay so that is andrew tate and again watch that on youtube because that wasn't all 10 years ago
00:39:59.540
some of what he was saying was just a few years ago he openly admitted during covid that he hired
00:40:05.520
more girls to pimp out for this so-called sex work this prostitution um over cameras um okay he also
00:40:15.140
tweeted recently he posted recently on x when girls are sad they dress up nice and take selfies
00:40:19.940
of themselves yes my life's a mess but someone will want to f me so it's okay yes what does this tell
00:40:25.780
you about female nature and this was just a few months ago um he also said let's see december 30th
00:40:32.700
2024 fact women are sex workers their primary job now is to find one customer called a boyfriend
00:40:38.480
to pay for their lives in return for for sex basically is what he says um if they fail at
00:40:46.900
this they do only fans or porn the same game with more than one customer if they're ugly they work a
00:40:52.920
job badly and are miserable so this is what he currently thinks of women um there is debate right
00:40:59.300
now because he is back in the news and claims to be running for prime minister and has been uh
00:41:06.340
platformed interviewed by a variety of people again uh why do people listen to andrew tate is it something
00:41:13.880
that we should consider is it because there is a dearth of masculinity on the right is b is it because
00:41:19.480
christians have become so feminized and have not given good masculine examples to men i don't think
00:41:27.900
that it is not worth debating that i i think it is fine asking wait why are men flocking to this
00:41:35.560
what are what is society doing wrong what is attractive about andrew tate to these men and i
00:41:42.300
certainly think that there is something to this idea i mean think about the episode that we did
00:41:47.440
yesterday with this idea that masculinity that roughness in boys that activity in boys has been
00:41:53.780
demonized and that boys certainly in the education system are expected to act like girls from a very young
00:42:01.440
age if you have not listened to or watched yesterday's episode with dr leonard sacks you
00:42:07.500
need to he talks about how kindergarten so kindergarten when kids are five and six years
00:42:12.180
old is really set up for seven-year-old girls the activities the curriculum what is expected of kids
00:42:18.840
when they go into kindergarten is really set up for a seven-year-old girl it is not set up for a five-year-old
00:42:25.340
boy and in the public school system especially in lower socioeconomic areas you've got boys being
00:42:32.820
sent to kindergarten when they have just turned five now in private schools and more advantage areas
00:42:39.520
you have boys not starting kindergarten until they're age six when they're a little more prepared
00:42:44.260
but still they can't compete against these six-year-old girls that are going into kindergarten because
00:42:50.000
girls at that age are just more advanced socially and verbally they are more able to sit still they
00:42:57.620
like doing the activities that they are expected to do in kindergarten whereas boys are bouncing off
00:43:02.480
the walls in general i know there are exceptions to this but they want to be doing something they
00:43:07.600
want to be competing they want to be outside they want to be loud this is part of their nature
00:43:12.140
and in general today's education system does not accommodate that so from a very young age i do think
00:43:19.340
boys are so often told that your nature is bad and we so often label it as add or adhd or autism
00:43:27.920
because they're not talking as much as a girl or maybe they're not making eye contact as much as
00:43:32.840
a girl or they don't want to sit there and do a puzzle like a girl does and so they're labeled
00:43:37.220
as bad and when you are given that label at such a young age and are told to conform to this kind of
00:43:46.240
feminine standard of behavior i do think that that has a bad effect on young men absolutely and so i
00:43:54.980
could see why a young man would look to someone like answer tate and say well he's certainly not
00:44:00.860
making me feel bad for being a man he likes fighting he's strong he takes control of his life i'm saying
00:44:07.920
maybe what they would think and he says whatever he's thinking he's not politically correct because he
00:44:13.660
does say things that are true by the way he has said things that are absolutely true about feminism
00:44:19.040
and about culture today i could see why a young man who feels demonized for being a man would look
00:44:26.540
to someone like andrew tate and say okay he doesn't make me feel bad for being a man now i do not think
00:44:35.440
though that that um that that that reality is indicative of a lack of masculinity on the right
00:44:44.380
i i simply don't um good fathers are the answer to bad men good fathers strong fathers being involved
00:44:56.560
in their kids life who are helping guide their sons in the way of toughness in the way of strength in
00:45:06.180
the way of chivalry and integrity showing them what true strength looks like part of that is respecting
00:45:13.400
women is the answer to andrew tate i'm not sure it is some bigger issue with the right or even a bigger
00:45:21.980
issue in the church there's a debate about whether the church has become too feminine again i think
00:45:29.320
that is a very worthy debate but i think the answer is actually much more local i think it is much more
00:45:36.480
specific i think the answer lies in fathers however not everyone agrees with that so there are some
00:45:43.560
different ideas out there about andrew tate and what he brings to the table and i'll just kind of
00:45:50.520
summarize what both sides of christian acts are saying so you've got one side who are saying the
00:45:55.960
church has this effeminized jesus and so men don't believe that they can really be strong like they can
00:46:02.120
really be men and even the worship is very feminine church services are very feminine and so that's why
00:46:09.920
young christian men are turning to andrew tate um you've got people pointing out pastors that they think
00:46:17.820
are feminine that men aren't just going to be attracted to um they're saying you know this is
00:46:24.180
the problem of christianity today and the gospel coalition the wokeization the progressivization
00:46:31.180
of the left the feminization or of the church the feminization of the church um um you've got there's
00:46:40.760
someone named uh jd on acts i don't know him but he has a sub stack and he described why andrew tate
00:46:48.940
has basically become venerated even among christian men and he says evangelicals seem surprised their
00:46:54.960
sons give attention to the controversial influencer instead they should be surprised that tate knows
00:46:59.400
their sons better than they do the evangelical establishment has reinforced the idea that masculinity
00:47:05.380
is a concept to be suppressed just as much as public education and the field of psychology
00:47:12.880
okay so that's one side of this debate um people who say look there's justification for this he's
00:47:22.420
bringing some kind of masculinity but then there's the other side that says actually that's not masculinity
00:47:26.740
at all like you're saying that andrew tate at least he's masculine and we have too many feminine
00:47:31.600
people in the church but the other side of this debate is well actually he's literally not
00:47:37.140
masculine and so um rob brunanski he's a pastor at desert hills bible church in glendale arizona
00:47:44.240
he posted this tweet which i thought was a good point and people just absolutely hated it there are a lot
00:47:50.900
of people that hated his post that hated my agreement with his post rob said this esau was a paragon of
00:47:57.560
modern masculinity harry probably had a great beard hunter very manly not a mama's boy a man's man if
00:48:02.800
there ever was one yet god said see to it that there be no immoral or godless person like esau
00:48:08.980
maybe those things aren't biblical manliness after all and i said that's a good point but some of the
00:48:16.160
responses to his post said this what a terrible take maybe don't be like esau because he chose
00:48:20.640
immediate gratification and sold his birthright or disobeyed god by marrying a canaanite john the baptist
00:48:25.720
lived in the wilderness and ate locust jesus was a carpenter working with his hands and had a beard
00:48:30.120
should we ignore them because they were too manly someone else named eric says this raises the
00:48:36.020
justification of being effeminate yet know ye not that the unrighteousness shall inherit the kingdom
00:48:41.360
of god be not deceived neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adult adulterers nor the effeminate
00:48:48.860
etc shall inherit the kingdom of god and so people saw that is him trying to justify being effeminate
00:48:55.520
and to say that having a beard and being strong and being a man's man is not masculine or shouldn't
00:49:01.840
be aspired to i think a lot of people have reading comprehension on x which is not surprising at all
00:49:07.320
that is not at all how i interpreted interpreted what he said i don't think he is saying that esau was bad
00:49:13.360
because of those things i don't think he was saying that we shouldn't teach our boys to hunt or that
00:49:18.840
they shouldn't be hairy or that they shouldn't be manly he wasn't saying that it was his masculinity
00:49:23.920
that made him not acceptable before god he understands that it was his sin well actually
00:49:30.060
it was really that god chose jacob and didn't choose esau we read that in romans 9 that before they were
00:49:37.340
born god loved jacob and hated esau and i would assume that pastor rob probably knows that he wasn't
00:49:45.800
demonizing his masculine traits what he was saying was that that alone does not define masculinity that
00:49:55.480
alone does not amount to an example for young men to aspire to that doesn't make someone necessarily
00:50:08.140
worth worth following after that's how i interpreted his post i don't think that he was excusing or
00:50:15.140
justifying effeminacy at all i think he was saying let us define masculinity as god defined masculinity i
00:50:24.440
mean we do certainly see some of the strongest men of the bible like david doing things that some men
00:50:32.040
today would say well that's effeminate um and like crying like david cried a lot um and obviously he
00:50:42.020
was very strong and so i don't think that he was saying that uh that esau should have been more
00:50:50.280
effeminate and then he would have found favor favor in god's eye so i believe that people are
00:50:55.960
misinterpreting that gabriel hughes said not one young man was won over by andrew tate because the
00:51:02.280
church failed to be sufficiently masculine enough it's because quote having itching ears they will
00:51:06.940
accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions lila rose founder of live action said
00:51:13.340
andrew tate is a reformed man two weeks ago posted a post that we already read by him and then andrew
00:51:21.380
tate responded to lila rose and said i went a full two weeks without telling the truth about women
00:51:25.820
and these females still aren't happy and lila rightly says you lack the self-control and vision
00:51:31.580
to be the great man you claim to be i hope one day you will choose humility and virtue and leave behind
00:51:37.680
your childish perverted ways megan basham rightly says andrew tate built an empire teaching young men
00:51:44.280
how to beat women down no one who follows a savior who lifted the most lowly women should be promoting
00:51:49.640
him you know it's funny because you get a lot of these christian men who are justifying young men
00:51:55.200
following andrew tate because apparently we just don't have proper examples of masculinity
00:51:59.240
within the church but if you have women who are following false teachers who are following
00:52:05.120
glennon doyle who are following brene brown who are following rachel hollis or following other teachers
00:52:12.920
that are not sound it's because women are more likely to fall into their traps of manipulation it's not
00:52:24.740
because of something that the church is lacking and so if it's sin for women if it's sin that
00:52:32.840
motivates women if it's a lack of discernment that motivates women to listen to teachers who are not
00:52:39.620
solid it's also a lack of discernment and a lack of wisdom and a lack of strength that is encouraging
00:52:45.920
young men to listen to a man that is not only not solid but is completely and totally degenerate
00:52:52.460
and is in opposed to every definition of biblical masculinity i think we can recognize that that
00:53:01.020
there is just sin and um uh being susceptible to deception at play here and also say that yes in general
00:53:11.740
healthy and strong masculinity is not encouraged enough and is very often demonized i think we can say
00:53:20.980
both at the same time and again i will just say that it comes down to fatherhood yes it comes down to
00:53:29.960
the local church um absolutely and making sure that they are creating these strong and respectful
00:53:35.520
and godly and um leaders of young men but i'm not sure i can say that it is the church's fault that
00:53:44.900
these young men are listening to andrew tate joel barry says that while tate's attraction for young
00:53:49.320
men isn't complicated it's the same thing that attracts men to porn gambling prosperity preachers
00:53:53.680
communist revolutionaries and other snake oil salesmen mankind is sinful the heart is easily deceived
00:53:59.300
servants of the father of lies tell itching ears what they want to hear the answer isn't to try and give
00:54:04.640
men the christian conservative version of andrew tate the answer is to preach repentance baptism and
00:54:08.820
discipleship to remind men of their purpose and duty for their creator and introduce them to jesus it is
00:54:13.800
the same is true for young women who are susceptible to false teaching um very well said joel barry all
00:54:20.740
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okay i've been wanting to get to this and we just haven't had time but i've i've got a little time
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for a short segment on carrie underwood carrie underwood is singing at the inauguration she's
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amazing it's going to be beautiful but a lot of people are really upset about this and they're really
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really mad they're so mad that carrie underwood accepted an invitation to sing at the inauguration i
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mean this is part of making history of course of course she is going to sing at the inauguration
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because she was asking it's going to be very beautiful and i'm so excited to see it but
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other people don't share my feelings she said in a statement to people i love our country and am
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honored to have been asked to sing at the inauguration and to be a small part of this historic
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event i'm humbled to answer the call at a time when we must all come together in the spirit of unity
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and looking to the future i think that's a great answer um in a 2019 interview with the guardian
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the grammy winner said that she felt that more people try to pin me places politically that she
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stays out of politics i do think she's probably socially liberal she has said in the past that she
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is pro-gay marriage i think she goes to that kind of church from my understanding so i'm not saying
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that she is like a tried and true christian conservative i mean maybe she's a maybe she's a
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christian i really don't know i i don't know that much about her philosophy and her worldview and what
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she believes about all the things uh that we talked about on this podcast but i can appreciate the fact
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that she is willing to go up against a lot a lot of pushback and a lot of unfair criticism to do
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something that i do think unifies the country and to sing uh at the inauguration of a president that
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she knows is controversial i mean that really takes a lot and so i am um i'm really really uh i'm really
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happy about that i'm really happy that she went against these criticisms and said yeah i'm gonna do
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it uh ryan sheed host of hold the mic podcast said fake christian supported a felon fraud rapist and
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accused pedophile carrie underwood is another maga clown supporting sexual predators um matt
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xiv he posts a lot of liberal commentary he says i hope he cheats again that you know is a reference
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to her song before he cheats but i don't know if it's a reference to something that also really
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happened in her life i'm not really sure uh suzy rizzo a progressive the commentator carrie underwood
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is performing at trump's inauguration so i'm blocking her on all apps i don't think she's gonna even be
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able to recover in time to sing at the inauguration now that she knows that you suzy rizzo are blocking
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her um several others giving very mean comments here's uh one example of a comment on instagram
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have been a fan of yours from the beginning but just heard you will be singing at trump's inauguration
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just lost all respect for you how can you support someone so hateful sad to hear this news someone
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said don't forget to wear your white robe with a cone hood because she's apparently a part of the kkk
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okay so i see that y'all are doing well since trump won the election um we'll pray for you hopefully
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you'll be able to get over this it's going to be a tough four years maybe the fact that gas prices
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will go down will comfort you just a little bit all right guys we will be back here on monday have a
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great weekend
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