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Ron Simmons sits in for his daughter Allie as she speaks at a pro-life event in Washington, D.C. Allie and Ron discuss abortion, the Born Alive Survivors Protection Act, and much more. This episode is brought to you by Good Ranchers.
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A very special treat for you today. My dad, Ron Simmons, is guest hosting, talking about
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the latest in news and politics, and taking many of your questions. You guys are going
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Well, hello, everyone. Probably not who you expected to see today. I'm Ron Simmons. As most
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of you know, I'm Allie's dad, and I'm really grateful that Allie asked me to sit in for her
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today. She is speaking at a pro-life event in D.C., so be praying for her today. Those are
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always so important for her and for what her beliefs are and for the people that are there.
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We just pray that there may be one lady in the audience that's trying to make a decision
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on what to do about that unborn child and that the lady will make a decision for life. If the
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Lord can speak through Allie today in any way, we just pray that that'll happen, and we know
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that he is with her. Thank you, though, for letting me be here. I appreciate it. I know
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that some of you, especially after that Instagram message was sent out, probably looked like I was
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forcing myself on here. I was not. We had a fun time with that, and one thing we're going to do
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later today is we're going to get to some of your incredible questions that you had. I mean,
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they are just—I was just so impressed with the questions. I'm always impressed with Allie's
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audience. She shares occasionally things with my wife and I, Lisa, on questions and comments that
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she gets. I'm always so impressed, and I so much appreciate you all following her. I hope that
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you're reading her book. It's another great book. She's doing a great job with that, and that you
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just keep up and let her know what's important to you. She really does care about that. We're going
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to talk about several things first, though, before we get into the question, and one of the things is
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the law that was trying to get through the Senate by Senator Langford and Senator Banks that's called
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the Born Alive Survivors Protection Act, and it really is incredible to you and I that that would
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even be any type of controversy associated with it. Now, I will tell you that there is already a
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federal law that says that if a baby is born alive in an attempt of an abortion, that they have to do
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what's medically necessary to keep them alive. However, the challenge is, and I ran into this
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when I was in the Texas legislature, it's great to have these laws, but if there's no penalty
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associated with violating that law, then why would somebody that doesn't agree with the law even
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follow it? And we know that they have it, you know, and remember the former vice presidential
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candidate Tim Waltz, most of us has already forgotten about him. There were 18 born alive
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abortions in that state last year alone, I believe, and I don't believe they kept them alive. I mean,
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it's just incredible. Now, people say, well, gosh, we got 53 votes in the Senate. What more do we have
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to do? That's a majority. In fact, it's a pretty strong majority. But the way the Senate works,
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and believe me, Republicans, conservatives have benefited from this in the past, the way the
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Senate works is in order for a vote on the floor to occur, they have to get 60 members to say it's
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okay to go ahead and vote on the bill. That's called cloture. That only doesn't happen in bills dealing
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with the budget. They call that reconciliation. And also it doesn't happen relating to
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Supreme Court justices and some other federal justices as well. They came up with an agreement
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a few years ago to not have to get cloture for those. It can be simple majority just to bring
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the vote up. So we need to somehow convince a few more senators, because I believe every single one
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voted against that 47 Democrat senators, which is incredible that this would even be controversial.
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But, you know, what happens is, and the reason that they do this, I'll just explain it to you,
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and we probably talked about it before. Most of the Senate seats and the House seats, and it's
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probably the same way in your legislature, wherever you are, state legislatures, those seats are probably
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always, at least now, going to be Democrat or Republican. And so they're not really worried about
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what happens in the general election. In other words, if I live in New York, I promise you Chuck
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Schumer doesn't care about anything that I say as a conservative. He's only worried about what
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happens in his primary, meaning when it's only Democrats voting to determine who's going to go
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on to the general election. And so what happens in these primaries, the candidate on the Democrat side
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that's furthest to the left usually wins. Now, we hope that's changing based on what happened in this
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last presidential election with President Trump winning so many areas that had been controlled
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by Democrats, especially in the U.S. House. We saw it down in South Texas. We saw it in other parts of
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the country as well. So we hope that more reasonable, even if they're a Democrat, more reasonable Democrats
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could be elected. And I know that there are pro-life Democrats out there, but they just can't win races
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right now. And so that's what the 47, in my mind, that's the calculation that they were going through
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is, okay, what's it going to cost me at the ballot box? Now, let me remind you, all right? And this is
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a generalization, so don't send Allie a bunch of messages about your senator or your House member
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doesn't do this. Generally, the number one rule of an elected official when they look at something is
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how is it going to affect my re-election? And interestingly enough, that's also their number
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two rule. And their number three rule is see number two and see number one. That's just the way it works.
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I mean, when I was in the legislature, one of the things that was my goal is to try to
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determine whether or not you could still be a statesman and be in the House or a stateswoman.
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You understand what I'm saying? And I'll tell you, it's very, very hard. In my last race, which I lost
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in the general election, even though I beat my U.S. senator by 10 points, I lost it because I filed
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some bills that were controversial. And this was in 2017. Yes, 2017. And one of those bills was related
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to gender. I passed what we used to call the bathroom bill or tried to pass it. And so that
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was negative. I also tried to pass a school choice bill. And then I got pushed back on that as well.
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So, you know, there are some that, you know, will say, OK, it's worth the risk. This is an important
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enough subject. But mostly they're looking to see how they can get reelected. Now, the born alive bill
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shouldn't have been one of those that they were concerned about. I don't think they would lose
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one vote for saying, hey, I voted to put real penalties in for babies that are born alive during
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an abortion procedure to keep them alive. And if they don't do it, there's a penalty that goes to
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the doctor or the caregiver that's responsible for that. But we'll just have to keep watching.
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It doesn't mean just because it hasn't gotten a vote yet that it won't get a vote. It also doesn't
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mean that they can't attach this to another bill that's going to get a vote on. They can attach this
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as an amendment and possibly they'll get that done. But that kind of leads us into when we're talking
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about pro-life. This is, you know, we at our church and probably at yours too, last Sunday was
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pro-life Sunday. And this is actually a pro-life week. And that's why Allie is in Washington, D.C.
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There's a lot of states that are having pro-life days on Saturday. I hope if your state's having
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one at your capital and you can get to it, you would go to that. I know they are having one in
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Texas, which I think is very exciting. And it's always a great turnout. But that leads us a little
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bit into this birthright citizenship. Man, this was exciting. When I was going through
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some of the various executive orders that they talked about, that Trump signed they were
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talking about, and I'd heard this birthright citizenship being something, you know, we
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talked about it last time in his last term, and I've heard about it before. And so I got
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to doing a little bit of research on it. And, you know, I will tell you up front, it's a
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steep hill to climb to get this past. No question about it. It's a steep hill. But here's what
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happens. The reason you go through this, because what is it? 22, I think, 22 attorneys generals
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in blue states and Democrat states filed a lawsuit day one of Trump's presidency in this second
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term, to not allow that to happen. And so what he is saying is that if you read the 14th Amendment,
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it says that a person is a citizen if they're under the jurisdiction of the United States or a state.
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And the argument is, is that his argument is, is there as an illegal, they're not under the
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jurisdiction. They don't have any, they don't have any rights, so to speak. And so therefore,
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that baby is not, should not be considered a legal citizen. Now, if their parents were here as a
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resident alien, like a green card holder, and the baby was born, that's different. They would be a
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citizen because they are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States in a state. Now, there are
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some, a couple of court cases. In fact, one back as far as I think 1898, that is a hurdle they're going
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to have to overcome. And you can, you can read about that case. You just Google that and it'll tell
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you all about it. It, what the, what the court appears to say at that time is that a resident
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alien who has a baby, that's the way I interpret it, then that baby is a citizen. Okay. Now a resident
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alien is someone, in my opinion, that should be defined as being here legally. I think that's how
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we would, would define a resident alien. There have been a couple of cases since then, I think in
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late as 1982, where far left Supreme Court Justice Brennan writes that, no, that's really not the case
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that anyone here, because we give them medical, you know, an illegal alien can go to a hospital or to
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the emergency room and be treated. And because we allow them to attend our schools, those are federal
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laws or federal court decisions that came down that require that, then therefore they are under
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our jurisdiction and should be considered citizens if they are born here. So we're going to see how
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The New York Times, of course, is all over this. They are all over, hey, they should be legal
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citizens. No question about it. That's what they are. Even though in every other scenario,
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okay, sit back and think about this one for a second. In every other scenario,
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they don't believe that unborn baby, which is what we've been calling them, is actually a baby.
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They believe it's a bunch of tissue. If you don't believe that, just go back and listen to the
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hearing that Allie was at, the congressional hearing a few years ago. You can look that up too.
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And about how those other people on the panel talk so dismissively about that sweet baby that
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is in a mom's belly. And the New York Times wants to go out on a limb for these,
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what they would call just things of tissue. We would call certainly a baby. But at the same time,
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the New York Times is okay with the Born Alive Survivors Protection Act not passing. Now,
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if there is greater hypocrisy in this world, I would love for you to tell me about it because
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that is about as hypocritic of position as you can take. Oh yeah, by the way, make sure that you look
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at this New York Times article. And here is the title of the article if you want to look it up.
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So undocumented women ask, will my unborn child be a citizen? Key word in there is child.
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I mean, I don't know that the New York Times has ever positively used that term.
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And I would sure like to hear from them. New York Times, if you're listening,
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please explain that to me as to how you can call this a child and how you can call someone that
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wants to abort that child, that child, nothing but just a bunch of massive tissue. Please just tell
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me, okay? Ron at ronsimmons.com. You can get to me anytime. I need to know. But it's just,
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I'm sorry, it's just despicable if you want to know the truth. It really, really is. And
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you know what though? We've made a bunch of progress. We did get Roe v. Wade overturned.
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Uh, we now have this whole abortion pill thing that we have to work on. And that's why we can
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never, ever, ever take a rest. We have to keep moving forward to protect those babies. You just
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don't ever know. You know, we had a speaker at our church last week, Daniel Ratcliffe. And Daniel
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was born with no arms. And he, the story that he told about, he wasn't, you know, his mom wasn't
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trying to have an abortion or anything like that. He was just, he was just had a disability.
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And when the babe, when he was born and he's probably, I don't know, 35, 40 years old now,
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the doctor asked his dad, now this is, this is, this is, I'm talking about a dad stepping up
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and you know, he was disappointed. They didn't know he was going to be disabled because they
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didn't have the testing they have today. And so this baby's born a few minutes old. He has
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no arms. He's got some other issues as well with breathing. And the doctor says, what do
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you want me to do? And the dad without hesitation says, I want you to do everything you can to
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save my son. And wow. Think about that. I mean, what a dad and how grateful of course that Daniel
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is. And he's married with kids now and got a, got a great ministry and testimony. But, uh, nowadays,
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um, you know, people can abort their child in the womb if they have a disability in a lot of cases,
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in a lot of States and man, oh man, I just, I think about that all the time. You know, my wife's got a
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book out there called, uh, I would have said, yes, she self-published it a few years ago. You might
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still be able to find it. If you can't just let, uh, just send Allie a message and we're happy to
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send you one, but it's, you know, we have a son that's disabled. He has seizures and he has autism
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and other things as well. And her whole premise of her book is even if I'd have known all that,
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and we didn't know any of that, would I've still said yes? And of course her answer is yes. In fact,
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he turns 40 years old, uh, tomorrow. So we're excited about that. Have a little gathering for him.
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Um, and, uh, we're thankful for that. And I'm thankful, uh, that my wife was so, uh, determined
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and so, um, accepting of what the Lord gave us. No question about it. Let's move on to another
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subject if we can. And this is on Stargate. Don't you just love the names that politicians come up
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with? I mean, when I think about, it seemed like there was a movie called Stargate at one time.
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Bree, am I right about that? Do you remember that? No, it's probably before your time, wasn't it?
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Um, it was the year I was born. It was in 1994. Do you remember seeing that? No. No,
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you don't. Okay. So, so Allie was just a little baby as well. Not most. So Stargate. So I,
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what I think about it, I think that movie was about, you could go through this kind of thing
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and travel through time. Isn't that what it was? I think that's what it was. I couldn't even tell
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you. Oh, okay. I just looked it up. Your mom and dad were probably watching that right after y'all
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after you were born. Uh, but anyway, so Stargate is this, and I had not even heard about this. You
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guys may have already heard about it was going to happen. This is something that surprised me.
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It's a artificial intelligence, AI infrastructure, uh, bill that they're, I guess, going to try to get
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passed. And the most interesting thing about it to me, cause I never heard this happen, um,
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under the Biden administration is that $500 million of private investment. You know, usually
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what Biden did is, Hey, we're going to just give you all this money and just do whatever you want
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to with it. Right. What he did try to do with the green new deal and all of the, uh, uh, things that
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he gave away. But what Trump has done, and we'll talk about this, why this is a little bit later,
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but what Trump has done is he's gotten businesses together and they're going to invest $500 million
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to build kind of more like a public AI infrastructure to be used for in, in their mind, the public
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good. Now we're going to talk about why that's not always the case. Of course, a minute ago,
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I think I said 500 million. I understated that it's 500 billion. They're going to, and the guy
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from SoftBank says, cause there's been a little discussion going on between Musk and Altman must
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saying that Altman and those guys don't have the money. And the guy from SoftBank, I forget his name,
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but he said, I don't know about everybody else, but I've got my 80 billion ready to go.
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So I thought that was pretty funny, but that is exciting. In fact, I didn't know this either,
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but I was really excited to know that the very first data center and these data centers are 500,000
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square feet. Think about, you know, if you had a 2000 square foot house, how many houses, 500,000 square
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feet it would take to fill that up. It's incredibly large. And they're doing it in Abilene, Texas,
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which is kind of out in, uh, middle West, Texas, uh, a smaller town, uh, probably have good access
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to electrical and they probably will use some solar out there cause it, it, the sun shines out there
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an awful, awful lot. So they may have their own power plant. I'm not sure how all that'll work,
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but the interesting thing about it is one of the gentlemen that spoke is Larry Ellison,
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who is the head of Oracle. And he had, uh, an interesting take. I'm not sure why he brought
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this up, but let's listen to what he had to say on SOT1. Once we gene sequence, once we gene sequence
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that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the person, design a vaccine for every individual
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person to vaccinate them against that cancer. And you can make that vaccine, that MRNA vaccine,
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you can make that robotically again, using AI in about 48 hours. So imagine early cancer detection,
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the development of a cancer vaccine for the, for your particular cancer aimed at you and have,
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have that vaccine available in 48 hours. This is the promise of AI and the promise of the future.
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Larry, Larry, Larry, why didn't you just call me first? We could have had such a better,
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you could have come across so much better using the word vaccine and MRNA in this day and time
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is a little sensitive. All right. And I'm sure that there were at least some of the people
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on Trump's team that were having a couple of cringe moments, maybe not like the cringe moments he had
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when he was at the Episcopal church the day before from the lady that was trying to beat him down. But
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so I want to make sure that we don't get off track here. What AI can do potentially in a healthcare
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situation? And this is really, it is really good. I think he's using the wrong term vaccine. Okay.
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But if you can gene sequence every person quickly, which you can, and you know what type of treatment
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would be best for them if they have a problem, let's say, you know, like Lisa and I both have had
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cancer experiences in the last couple of years. If they knew, okay, Ron, this specifically will be
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your best treatment. Maybe it's all natural, right? Maybe it's nothing to do with a drug or something.
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Maybe it's simply all natural, which she and I both have done a lot with. Then I think that would be
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really important. Or if I knew, if it could tell me why Daniel was having seizures, I would want to know
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that just to see, is there something that we can do? The mRNA vaccines, we all know that there has
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a lot of problems with that. And I would not want them rushing out to try to figure out, okay,
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a 48 hour vaccine scares me to death. The last one they did in six or seven months really had a
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negative effect on a lot of people. I'm not saying it didn't help some people. Maybe it did, but it had
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a negative effect on a lot of people. In fact, I think probably was behind some pretty bad turnout
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for people. And so I think that was wrong, but that's not all of what this program is about.
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Healthcare is one of the things. There'll be other things as well that'll be used for the Defense
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Department. You can also use it for just simple things like, okay, traffic. What was the best
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solution for improving traffic in major cities? All right. And when does it make sense to have,
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uh, you know, to, to have multi like buses and trains and things like that versus just having
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roads, that's the type of thing that it will be able to do. Uh, and so I'm really excited about
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seeing what happens out of it. Now, any, I don't want any of the say I'm kind of in the Elon Musk field
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on AI in that you have to have people that are controlling the input so that you know, that the
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output doesn't carry bias with it. And what some people, and I've heard the guy from Google say,
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no, we just want to kind of let it evolve on its own. And that is, that's, that's why, uh,
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Musk left open AI. And I think Altman's come around a little bit to that as well. I've been reading some
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of his, his tweets and his statements on that also. So I'm excited about what's going to happen.
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I do think we always have to look at this with a little bit of a jaundiced eye to make sure that
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we have accountability relating to that. And if there's legislation, um, I think making sure that
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there's accountability within that legislation is really important, but I wouldn't over worry about
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what Larry Ellison said again, if he would have just made a quick call to me, uh, he doesn't have my
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number, but we could have gotten it for him. We could have taken care of, I could have schooled
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Let's get on to some of the questions, okay, in the last part of the episode that we're going to do.
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And again, thank you for joining us today. I hope that you enjoy this. And I hope you'll remember,
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Allie's going to be back on Monday. So don't give up on her just because you may not have liked what
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your host did today. Don't give up on Allie. She'll be back on Monday. But boy, we got some
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great questions. Look at all. This is incredible how many questions we got. And I can't get to all
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of them, but I'm going to get through some of them. Here's the first one. How did you raise your kids
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to live in peace together? Well, if you'd have been in our home when they were younger, you would
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have wondered that. I'll never forget Lisa telling the story of she walks in on Daniel and Allie. Now,
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they're seven years apart. So Allie was probably three, four, five years old. I don't know. And
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Daniel would have been 11 or 12. And she walks in on them and they both have play swords. And Daniel's
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saying, on guard. Now, Allie thinks he said, I'm God. And so she goes back and says, I'm Jesus.
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So it was pretty, pretty funny. But I think we had a typical household for young, young children and
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whatever. But I think that the biggest reason that they've actually always gotten along pretty
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well, there's never been any major issues between them, is that Lisa, their mom, she prayed over
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them. She just prayed over those kids all the time. She refereed fights in a way that was more loving
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than me. When I would do it, it was, okay, you're in trouble and you're in trouble. Let's go to it right
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now. Lisa just didn't handle things that way. And she was very, very good at that. The other thing
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that she did a lot of, and she still does it to this day, she laughs with them. I mean, they have
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so much funny stuff that they talk about, most of which doesn't even sound funny to me. Right. And
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that's why they laugh. They laugh when I don't think it's funny because I don't think it's funny,
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which is kind of strange. But, and then finally, I think for now, anyway, as adults, we do do
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something purposely that I believe has an impact on how we see each other is that as a family, we have a
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weekly Zoom call every Sunday night to get caught up with each other and to share prayer requests.
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That's really been important for us. A couple of, sometimes there's a week we can't do it,
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just doesn't fit, but we try to do that every Sunday night if we can. Next question, tips for
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keeping lifelong friends. I think that friends are just really important, but you just have to remember
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that friendship is an active verb. And if it's something where you're just going to, you know,
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sit back and wait for people to call you, it's just generally not going to happen. You have to
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pursue it. We have friends, some of the people that we first met on those first Sundays that we
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went to church at First Baptist Dallas, we have some of those friends still today. In fact, I was with
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two of them this morning having breakfast. And so I would just say it's an active verb and you have to
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pursue it. Even in the times when you have kids and you're busy and all that, if you say, okay,
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I'll get together then when all our kids are grown, it doesn't work like that. Here's one.
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I have two sons with cognitive disabilities. Any parenting advice for me? Well, I think the advice
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that Lisa and I would give you is you got to get them in the right education environment as early as
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possible. No matter how steep their disabilities are, they need to have the education that best fits them.
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And federal law requires your school district to provide that for them. And if they don't,
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they have to pay for them to go to private education. Do not give up on that. All right.
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And if it's, if your school tells you, we think that what we're doing is right and you don't agree
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with it, you keep fighting for that. Also, you need to plan now for what will happen when they are
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adults. They must have something to do. Even if they can't hold down a full-time job,
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they need to be able to do something on a regular basis because deep down inside of their core,
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they still want to feel wanted and needed and purposeful. All right. Even though they may not
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totally understand it intellectually and can get it out to you, they want that. And then also you
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need to plan for what happens when you're gone. That's the number one challenge that parents that
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have children that are disabled, what happens when I'm not here? I feel very comfortable that Allie
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and Justin, that my, Allie and then my oldest, Justin, that they'll take care of Daniel if he's
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still here when, after we leave. But I want to make sure of that, and I don't want to make it a
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burden. So what I've trying to do is make sure that I have financially set aside enough that he can be
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taken care of. All right. And that's, I think that's important this way. And then again, I'd encourage
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you to read Lisa's book. I would have said yes. And again, happy to get that to you without any cost,
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happy to just send that to you. Next is what are some traits and principles you're glad
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stuck with Allie and how did you help foster them when she was growing up? Again, and this is just
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the truth. Primarily her mother, Lisa's discipleship and her mentorship of her. Lisa and Allie were
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really close. Lisa, Allie would share pretty much anything with Allie, with Lisa sometimes stuff.
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Lisa really didn't even want to hear, but Allie, you know, she's, what's on her mind is going to come
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out. So you guys know that already. Uh, I think that was the flame and Allie certainly wasn't a
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perfect child. She'll tell you that, but that flame is what Allie, as she got older, went to college and
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whatever, made her want to seek God's truth more as she matured. But the flame was put in there a long
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time ago. I think the other thing is around age 16, Allie, it was me that I needed to understand
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what was a value for Allie that she had to respect as to be a part of our family and what were just
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my preferences that I would like to see her follow. Unfortunately, before that time, I thought
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every preference I had was a value because I thought I was right. And so we went to a counselor
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that really helped us with this is to understand, look, your family values are probably four or five
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total and those are not negotiable. In fact, Allie and I would agree on those. Those are not an issue.
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But all of the other things were like, you know, clean up your room, comb your hair, eat all your
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food on your plate. Those are preferences. Okay. Especially as they get into their teenage years.
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So just be careful about that. Um, and then, uh, what do you love most about Allie? Well, I will tell
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you two, there's two different things. First of all, I'm impressed the most by her ability to digest
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incredible amounts of information and communicate them in a way that we can understand.
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What I love about her the most is her soft heart, which shows in her love for Christ and her family.
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That's, that's, that's really what melts me is when I see her, you know, truly burdened, uh,
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for people and their salvation and their relationship. And then also the sweetness that
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she has with her little girls and Timothy and whatever, I really, that, that, that really
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melts me on that. But I'm always amazed at how much, how she can process information.
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She's kind of always been that way. Uh, incredible. And of course her team here helps with a lot of
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that. It's anytime I come on, you guys need to know this. Anytime I come on the information that
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they provide me about the subjects we're going to talk about, it's incredible. In fact, for me,
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for a country boy like me, it's a little bit overwhelming. So I have to kind of narrow it down
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a little bit. And then, um, let's see here. Uh, what's your advice for raising boys to become
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godly men? Well, I don't think there's one perfect answer. And I wrote all these down last night. Cause I,
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I wanted to answer them and make sure I didn't mess up. A lot of raising kids is to understand their
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personality. There's a author out there by the name of Robert Rome. If you just look him up on,
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he has a book on personalities, which is very, very good. It was, it was in a sense, life-changing
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for Lisa and I, once we read that, first of all, we understood our own personalities. Okay. And Lisa
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and I are different. And then we understood our kids' personalities. Once you understand this,
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then you have an inside track on how they look at the world. Allie's oldest brother, Justin,
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and her are total opposites. Now they share a lot in common from the standpoint of, uh, their
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biblical worldview and, and they're both very smart and all that type of stuff. But Justin is super,
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super quiet. Okay. In fact, we always used to joke that Justin was to come home one day and say,
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Hey, I'm married and got three kids and we never knew it. Right. I mean, he's just that quiet,
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but there will be times when he will talk about a subject. And so I look for those times. And my goal
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is to make sure that I continue that conversation as long as possible. And usually there's an
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opportunity in there for me to put out some life lesson that maybe I've learned or something that
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equates to that. I don't try to force that on him. I wait until he's talking about a subject.
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Now with Allie, you know, she's much more open than that. So I'm very comfortable about calling
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her or she calling me and just saying, Hey, were you thinking about this? What'd you think about
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that? Those types of things. And so I think for, for guys, they're different than girls in a lot of
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ways. You just have to make sure that anytime you have an opportunity to put a life lesson
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without, without forcing it on them with a biblical worldview, that's what you do. And those things
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are remembered over time. I promise you that I'll never forget. Justin told me one time, and this
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has probably been in the last 10 or 12 years. And it's something that you don't know. Your kids are
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watching you is that, and this is just kind of out of the blue, which is pretty unusual for him. He said,
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Dad, you know, one thing I appreciate about you is you've, I've never heard you say a crossword about
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mom in front of anybody else. And I thought that was, I thought that was pretty nice of him to do
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that, that he would, but it also told me he's paying attention. Okay. A few more here. How do you
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ensure your kids could attend private Christian school financially? Lisa and I decided this well before
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we had any money. I can promise you that. And we decided that if I had to work two jobs, okay, that
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for our kids to get a Christian education, that's what I would do. Having a Christian education was our
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number one priority as a family. That was our number one financial priority was our kids getting a
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Christian education. So I would say if you have the opportunity to do it, whatever you have to do to get
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that done would be important. It won't be perfect, but it will help to reinforce what you're teaching
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at home and what they're learning at church. I think it's very important. All right. How can I
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encourage spiritual growth in my husband while still submitting to him as his wife? Well, first of all,
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let me make this clear. You should never submit to an abusive husband, verbal or physical. Okay. Let's
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just make, I'm sorry. You understand that that's not submission. Okay. So, and I'm not saying this
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person that's having that challenge, but just as a general statement. But now I think what happens is,
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and this has happened to me over time with Lisa is, is what her, your actions will make the biggest
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difference. All right. If you're nagging on that person, it's not going to work at all. But if he sees
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you praying, sees you in the word, sees you having a kind heart and a kind mouth, that's the best chance
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for his heart to open up enough. It just has to open a little bit to hear that knock of Jesus.
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Cause he says, I stand at the door at knock. And if you open, I will come in. So you don't have to
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have, you know, it all the way open just a little bit. And I think they can learn that. I know that,
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you know, one thing that's always been important to me and had an influence on me is, you know, how,
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how Lisa conducts herself and she's not different on how she thinks and looks and does at home than
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she is out in public. And that's very, very important. And so I would encourage you to do that.
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Okay. Currently reading. What are you currently reading? All right. I've got three or four of
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those. I've always got several things going on. Number one is Jesus the High Road Leader by John
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Maxwell and Chris Hodges. Number two, Every Good Endeavor by Tim Keller. And this is really about
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how you coincide your work with your faith. And it's really, really good. Of course, Tim Keller is a
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great writer. Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell. Now don't read this unless you've
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read the Tipping Point. Okay. You got to read the Tipping Point. But this is kind of interesting.
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And Malcolm Gladwell is certainly far left of where I am and probably most of you are. But he is a very
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smart guy. And you do learn some things, non-political type things when you read him.
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And then finally, Good Energy by Casey Means. And this is kind of all about health and healing and
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what have you. It's really an eye-opening book. Now, in the last part of the book, she gets a little
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new agey, which is not my cup of tea. And I don't think yours either. But a lot of the stuff is solid.
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And the fact that she's an MD. See, I really believe in functional medicine. But I much more trust
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functional medicine people that have an MD because they have seen all the other side 100%. And when
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they come back over to natural healing and stuff, to me, that carries a lot more weight.
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They're the most recent ones other than the Bible. And then they ask, what's helped? He says,
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other than the Bible, what books have helped grow and develop your faith? And for me, it was this one
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book. It's called The Jesus I Never Knew by Philip Yancey. That's a really, really good book.
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And it's very interesting. All right. How do you balance financial success and responsibility
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without loving money? Well, you have to look money strictly as a tool. And so it becomes how you use
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the tool. See, a hammer doesn't nail a nail by itself. It just sits there all day long. In fact,
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money, if you pulled out a dollar bill and you set it right here, it could sit there forever and not do
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one thing wrong or right. It just sits there. So it's a tool. It's how do you use it? If you use it
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destructively, which is focusing only on ourselves and our own fleshly desires or constructively,
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certainly that means helping you and your family, but beyond that, benefiting others. That's really
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what it's all about. All right. Let's see here. I got time for maybe one more.
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How to form a good relationship with your son-in-law. That's a good one there. Cause that's
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something that I, Timothy, uh, Ali's husband, uh, is a lot like my oldest son, very quiet. Uh, so he's
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easy. He doesn't make it hard for me. He's not conflict oriented necessarily, but I can take that
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for granted. So I have to be really careful about intentionally building that relationship. I had a
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good friend that I was asking about this actually last summer when Lisa and I were, uh, on a trip
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together with this friend of mine. And he said, what he's done is he takes his son-in-law to lunch
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or breakfast once a month. And maybe they'll, you know, they'll have a kind of a book club where
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they'll be reading a book together, something to talk about. But he intentionally does that
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because the son-in-law, he's the father of your grandkids, right? And, uh, and the husband to,
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to the daughter that you love as much as anything. And I think that's what we have to do. My,
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my goal in 2025 is to do that. And, and so Timothy, if you happen to listen to this,
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hold me accountable to this as well. Okay. So anyway, it's been a good time. I've enjoyed being
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here. Bree, I do have one question that wasn't on here that I know somebody asked. So I want you
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to answer it. Okay. I'm ready. Why was Taylor Swift not at the inauguration?
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You know, somebody asked that. No, I know. Well, some, there's not one question on Taylor
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Swift and I know there had to be one in there somewhere. Yeah, you're right. Uh, that's a
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great question because she backed Kamala Harris, but we'll get her one day. I think you think,
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yeah, she could, she's going to come around. I hope so. Maybe if she marries Travis Kelsey and
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they. Now, is she having a baby or not? I don't think so. I thought I read that somewhere where,
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but I think it's just speculation. Yeah, I think it was a rumor. Taylor, we're not saying that. I
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know you listen to this podcast. You just don't tell anybody, but we're not really saying that.
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Okay. Yeah. Um, one last question though, Bree. Okay. Not related to Taylor Swift. Okay. I came in
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here expecting some fresh made sourdough bread and nothing. I mean, I was so excited to hear what
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you're doing in the cooking range. That's going to be awesome. I have not perfected it yet, but when I do.
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Please let me know. I'll bring you some sourdough. I'll bring everyone some sourdough. Yeah.
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Also anybody, if, uh, again, if you're interested in my book, Life Lessons from Little Red Wagon,
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they'll put it in the show notes. Uh, you can just email me. If you have other questions,
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I'm happy to answer them. Ron at ronsimmons.com. I'm happy to answer questions that you have,
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um, on anything, right? Some of it, I probably won't know that much about, uh, but I appreciate being
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here today. And don't forget, Allie will be back on Monday and thank you for your time today. I hope you enjoyed it.