Ep 1129 | Selena Gomez Sobs Over Deportations of Terrorists
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Did Katai Brown Jackson practice witchcraft at President Trump's inauguration? We ll get into that and more on today's episode of Relatable. Allie shares her thoughts on what it was like being in Washington, D.C. the night of the Inauguration.
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Did Kataji Brown Jackson practice witchcraft at President Trump's inauguration? We'll get into
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that. But first, we've got to look at some amazing pro-life news. Donald Trump is winning so much,
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especially in this regard. So we'll take a look at his pardons. But also, we will be debunking
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some of the toxic empathy myths that you are hearing from progressives and so-called progressive
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Christians when it comes to immigration and deportation. We've got so much to discuss
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Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day,
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a wonderful week so far, as I like to remind us sometimes on Mondays, is that God's eternal plan
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of redemption is always going off without a hitch. Whatever is happening personally, professionally,
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politically, God is in total control. And as Elizabeth Elliott used to say,
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the only thing you have to do today is the will of God. And I like to add on to that. If you don't
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know what that is, just do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God.
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God is so good that he gives us his Holy Spirit as a helper, that he gives us his word as a lamp
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into our feet and a light into our path, that we get to be friends with him through Christ. And so no
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matter what is going on in your life or in the world today, the fact that we have Jesus, who is the
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same yesterday, today, and forever, Hebrews 13, 8, that is where we derive our joy. But we also
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happen to be living in a pretty good time in America right now. I was recording my episode last
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week from Washington, D.C. It was so cool to be there while Trump was being inaugurated. I mean,
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I wasn't actually at the ceremony, but the atmosphere in D.C., as you know, it is a deeply blue city.
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It was a sea of red. And I don't just mean red as the representation of Republicans, but literal
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red MAGA hats were everywhere. I was at a restaurant. This was the night of the inauguration. We were just
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at an Italian restaurant in Georgetown, Chief Related Bro and I, and a table off to the side
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started singing happy birthday to someone at their table. And for whatever reason, after happy birthday
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was sung, another person, not at that table, in the middle of the restaurant, just yelled,
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America is back, baby! And the whole restaurant erupted in Trump cheers. Okay? So that's what was
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happening in Georgetown, a very posh and liberal suburb of D.C. last week. And the entire week was
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like that. Like every museum, every place that we went was just filled with these exuberant Trump
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supporters. And so that felt like being a part of history, even if I didn't go to the actual
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inauguration ceremony. And so I'm glad, I'm glad to be back as much as I liked D.C. It smells like pot
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everywhere. That is the bad thing. It smells all the liberals inside their home as they were mourning
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Trump becoming president. I guess they were smoking weed and they were trying to comfort themselves with
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that. And it was seeping onto the streets. It really does smell like weed everywhere. And the
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only other bad thing that happened is that I was at the airport and someone brought their pit bull
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on, not onto my plane because I would have, I don't know, you would have already known about it because
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I would have made the news. It, no, I saw it in the airport. I can't, first of all, I can't believe
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the dogs are just like allowed in all of these places anyway, but a pit bull, there are so many
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things that should be illegal with that. And as I'm about to read you some of the executive orders
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that Trump has already signed, I am hoping, I am petitioning with any political capital that I have
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that he will also sign an executive order banning dogs on airplanes, unless you are blind or something.
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And just pit bulls in general. You can send me your hate mail. That's fine. You can send me your mean
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comments. I don't care. I thrive on them. I hope that president Trump, in addition to all of the
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awesome things that he's already done, I hope that he bans pit bulls once and for all. He hasn't done
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that, but he has done these things before we get into some of my favorite accomplishments of the past
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week or so. I just want to give like bullet point highlights of things that Trump has signed
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via executive order and measures that he has taken. His administration has already taken in making
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America awesome. Like Trump 2.0 is amazing. Way better than Trump 1.0. I love it. He issued an
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executive order recognizing two genders, male and female, on official documents, prohibited the use
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of so-called gender identity or preferred pronouns in federal agencies. Thank the Lord. Again, very sad
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that this has to be explicitly stated. He said it in his inaugural address that there are only two
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genders, male and female. Like what a dystopian, sad society that we live in today that the president of
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the United States has to declare that in his inauguration. And yet clarity is something that
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I will always be grateful for. Trump abolished DEI programs within the federal government. They are
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working very hard to make sure that this is the meritocracy that it should be. Trump issued an
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executive order mandating that so-called transgender women inmates, so those are men pretending to be women
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who have declared themselves women, be housed in men's facilities based on their biological sex. Of
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course, I wouldn't say biological sex because there's only one kind of sex and that is biological.
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Their sex at birth rather than their so-called gender identity. We've told many true harrowing
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stories of these men who say that they're women. They are transferred into women's prisons. And then as
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Kamala Harris very openly advocated for on the taxpayer dime, they get to go through so-called gender
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transition. But interestingly, they very rarely get castrated. And so they are still assaulting and
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raping these poor, vulnerable women in the women's prisons and federally funded facilities. So thank
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the Lord, Trump has protected women, all of you people out there. So Trump hates women. Well, he literally
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just took male sex offenders who identify as women out of women's prisons back into male prisons. Yeah,
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he is protecting women more so than all of you fake feminists out there who are for these male
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pedophiles and rapists who identify as women being in women's prisons. The irony. Trump pardoned 23 pro-life
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activists, we're going to get into this more today, that were charged in violation of the FACE Act. We
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will explain that in just a bit, as well as roughly 1,500 people who were charged in connection with the
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January 6th Capitol riot. I don't have time to get into all of that. I know that there was a lot of
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disagreement even on the conservative side about whether this was right because some of these people
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were violent. Look, the charges in the prosecution went too far in all of these cases. Those people who
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are truly bad people, who are truly violent criminals, they will get caught doing something
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else at some point. But this was political prosecution. And the same accountability was
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not offered for or was not given to BLM rioters and Antifa and those who destroyed cities in the
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summer of love in 2020. And so we're hoping for impartiality here. So he did pardon those January 6
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rioters. I think that was the right thing to do, especially when you look at some of the people
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that Biden had just pardoned. He issued an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship
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for children of illegal immigrants, or it did end it. That's what it is aiming to do.
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And we will see how that goes. You've got a lot of people who are upset about that. But birthright
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citizenship incentivizes people to come here illegally and then give birth. And we should take away that
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incentive. We should take away every incentive that someone has to come here illegally. He signed
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an executive order ordering the attorney general to pursue the death penalty for all crimes of a
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severity demanding its use, including the murder of law enforcement officers and capital crimes committed
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by an alien illegally present in this country. I mean, all capital murder. And I think instances of
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rape, I think should demand the death penalty, especially when you're talking about child rape. I think
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that people should get the death penalty for that. Absolutely. But this is a step in the right
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direction. He left the Paris climate agreement. It's great. It was an unfair deal for Americans to
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have to be paying for. And he announced his intent to withdraw the U.S. from the WHO. Again, that's good.
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We don't want to be under control of the WHO. Trump signed an executive order to freeze nearly all U.S.
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foreign aid for 90 days and mandated a comprehensive review of foreign assistance programs to ensure
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alignment with policy goals. Again, I think that's a good thing you've probably heard the saying before,
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and it absolutely rings true, that foreign aid is money from poor people in rich countries to
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rich people in poor countries. It doesn't actually get down to the people in poor countries who really
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need it. It just lines the pockets of their corrupt leaders. So at the very least, a comprehensive
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review is what we should do. Now, let's get into more details about him pardoning pro-lifers because
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this is amazing, amazing news. We've talked to one of those pro-lifers who was imprisoned on
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Relatable, Herb Garrity, who was just released, and just praise God for that. So let's get into that a
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code Allie. During the campaign, we talked a lot about the Biden administration, the DOJ,
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prosecuting pro-lifers who obstructed the entrance of a clinic under something called the FACE Act,
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and it's a rather obscure law. It was signed into law by Bill Clinton, but most of us hadn't
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heard about it until it was weaponized. It was used against these pro-lifers who do not commit
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violence, by the way, but they did obstruct the entrance to a murder mill. This is called the
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Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act or FACE Act. Trump's DOJ sent a memo last Friday pledging to
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end the weaponization of the FACE Act, and he pardoned the 23 pro-life protesters who had been
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prosecuted under this law. Here's him doing that in Salt 1. 23 people were prosecuted.
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They should not have been prosecuted. Many of them are elderly people. They should not have been
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prosecuted. This is a great honor to sign this.
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Okay, let me tell you a little bit more about these people. Not all 23 of them. Unfortunately,
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I just don't have time to tell you about all of their heroism, but I'll tell you about some of them.
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Lauren Handy is a young woman who was a part of the group that recovered the 115 human remains from an
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abortion facility in Washington, D.C. They had been protesting there. There was a medical waste truck
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outside the clinic, and the guy, the medical waste management guy, didn't know what kind of
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trash he was taking away or what material he was taking away. And so Lauren Handy and some other pro-life
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activists asked if they could have the material, the waste. I hate saying trash because these are
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actually human beings. But he thought that it was just trash. So they asked if they could have these
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bags. And when they opened them at home, they found full-term babies. Five were full-term. And you
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probably remember at the time, the news about this, pro-life organizations like Live Action reported on
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this. They were called the Washington Five. And maybe you saw the gruesome pictures. There was one
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little picture of this baby that had been aborted probably around 30 weeks gestation, whose eye was
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still open, but whose skull had been crushed by the brutal abortion procedure. And so understandably,
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they were incensed. They were devastated by what they saw. And from my understanding, and someone tell me if
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I'm not understanding the timeline of events correctly, but this is what inspired them to
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protest again in front of the clinic and try to obstruct the entrance. And just think about what
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the previous administration represented. They represented calling evil good and good evil, that
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they didn't prosecute the people who had crushed the skulls of living babies inside their mother's
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womb. They didn't investigate to see if they were actually performing what it looked like, which was
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actually an illegal abortion that is used or used to be legally used in the third trimester called a
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DNX, where you literally deliver the baby and you suck the brain out while they're still alive. It's
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horrible. I hate to even say that, but that is what abortion is in some cases. And so the Biden
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administration didn't look into that, didn't investigate that. No, they didn't look into the
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murders at all. Instead, they actually prosecuted the people that tried to stop the murder, including
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Jean Marshall, a 74-year-old, Joan Bell, a 76-year-old, John Hinshaw, a 69-year-old. All of these were
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prosecuted under the FACE Act. And then Bevelyn Williams, a 33-year-old mom of a toddler, she was a part of,
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I understand, another event where she was blocking the entrance to an abortion clinic, and she was
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sentenced to three and a half years in federal prison for FACE Act violations and quote-unquote
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unlawful assembly. She was preaching the gospel outside an abortion clinic, and she allegedly
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was blocking the door, which led to accidentally injuring a clinic worker. She claimed that this was
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not on purpose. She wasn't trying to be violent. She was just trying to stop people from going into
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this murder mill. But thankfully, praise God, she was pardoned by President Trump.
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And here she is reuniting with her family. You've got to watch this. If you're just listening,
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you've got to watch it on YouTube. This is so sweet. Praise God. Sot too.
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Guys, I couldn't even watch that. I had to look down because
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I was going to start sobbing. And if I started sobbing, then I wasn't going to be able to continue
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doing this podcast. Just praise, praise God for that. I'm so thankful. And, you know,
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some people are saying, oh, I can't, this is, you know, not allowing people to be held accountable
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by the law. This isn't law and order. I mean, these same people had nothing to say about Biden's
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pardons. Right before he left office, he granted pardons and commutations to more than 8,000 individuals,
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which is more than any other modern president by far. He also commuted the sentence of 37 out of
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40 inmates on federal death row, bringing their sentences now to life without parole rather than
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the death penalty. Let me give you an example of someone who is now not going to see the justice
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that according to the Bible he deserved. Thomas Stephen Sanders, he was sentenced to death for the
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kidnapping and murder of a 12-year-old little girl in Louisiana. Biden said, nope, you don't have to
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have the death penalty anymore. Richard Allen Jackson, he was convicted of the kidnapping,
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rape and murder of a 22-year-old jogger in Asheville, North Carolina. Okay. His sentence commuted.
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The Biden administration released 11 terrorists from Guantanamo Bay, including two suspected bodyguards
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of Osama bin Laden. Also Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two other architects of the 9-11 attacks will
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avoid the death penalty as a result of a Biden administration plea deal. So like, I just want to
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show you the contrast of who Trump is versus who Biden is. And if you're saying, oh my gosh,
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these pardons, they're so bad. I can't believe these pro-lifers or January 6th protesters that
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they're not getting punished anymore, that they're not getting the punishment that they deserve. Like,
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where were you literally two weeks ago? I say yes and amen to Trump pardoning these pro-lifers.
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I mean, when you compare that to the people that Biden decided to give grace to, who should have been
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given the just end of capital punishment? No. Don't tell me that you care about justice, that you are worried
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about accountability and the rule of law. Just say that you don't like Trump and you allow anti-Trump media
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to dictate your compassion and your outrage. Just admit that. Trump is also doing many other things in
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the way of pro-life advocacy that I'm very thankful for. He revived the Mexico City policy that basically stops
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our tax dollars from funding organizations abroad that promote or perform abortions. He is reinstating or
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he intends to reinstate the Hyde Amendment or he had an, let me say that differently, the second executive order
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that he signed in this regard further cements the Hyde Amendment. So that bans federal funding for abortion.
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Biden, Kamala Harris were very much against the Hyde Amendment, even though Biden at one time was for
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the Hyde Amendment. He was never successful, I guess, in overturning it. But that was a campaign promise
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of Kamala Harris. She said, no, your tax dollars, we will force your tax dollars to pay for abortion.
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So abortion specifically for poor women who have to rely on welfare to get abortions. Kamala Harris
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wanted to make sure that your tax dollars would be forced to pay for the dismembering of poor babies.
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And Trump says, nope, that's not going to, that's not going to happen. Again, just the contrast here.
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In response to Dobbs v. Jackson, President Biden's Department of Health and Human Services established a
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government website called ReproductiveRights.gov to provide resources and information to people
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about abortion to make sure that they can travel for abortion, to make sure that they can get the
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cost covered for abortion. Well, Trump's administration took that website down on
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inauguration day. It is no longer accessible. Also, we had Vice President Vance speak at the March for
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Life. We had President Trump give an amazing video message to the marchers that we will play in just a
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All right. So Vice President Vance is only the second sitting vice president to address the March
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for Life. Mike Pence did, and now it's J.D. Vance. Donald Trump addressed the March for Life
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in person in 2020 satellite before that. Only Trump, Bush, and Reagan. They're the only ones that
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have addressed the March for Life. Isn't that kind of incredible? Because this is the 52nd, I believe,
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the 52nd March for Life. Only three presidents have addressed the crowd. Isn't that amazing?
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And Trump was one of them. Okay, here we've got Vance's speech or part of Vance's speech at the
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March, thought three. Thank you for having me, and it is an honor to be standing with you here today
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for Life. We are proud to march with you, and yes, we will be back next year.
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We march to protect the unborn. We march to proclaim and live out the sacred truth that every single
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child is a miracle and a gift from God. Our society has failed to recognize the obligation
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that one generation has to another is a core part of living in a society to begin with.
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So let me say very simply, I want more babies in the United States of America.
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Yes, and amen. I mean, as we will talk about more in a little bit, such a perfect pick for Donald
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Trump. I think everyone is excited about J.D. Vance's political future. Here is part of Trump's
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message to the March for Life marchers. Stop four.
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Thank you for turning out once again to show your extraordinary love and compassion for the
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unborn. Each year, Americans of every age, color, and background travel to our nation's
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capital by the tens of thousands to stand up for precious little babies who cannot stand up
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for themselves. We will work to offer a loving hand to new mothers and young families, and we
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will support adoption and foster care. We will protect women and vulnerable children.
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His New York accent really came out there. Foster care. I was so glad, and he knew. I mean,
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whoever helped him write this knew not to bring up something like IVF, because some people think
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that that's part of the pro-life conversation, but he's talking to a lot of pro-life evangelicals and
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Catholics there who do not support that, but do support adoption and foster care. Also talked
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about bringing those who have attacked churches and crisis pregnancy centers to justice. I mean,
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praise God. Again, just the partiality that was showed toward wickedness by the Biden administration.
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It's really being rectified now by the Trump administration, and I appreciate that so much.
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All right. Now, let's talk about immigration, because I've gotten a lot of messages from y'all about
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your friends who are posting about the devastating effects of Trump's presidency on the immigration
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population in the United States, and we are seeing my warning, and the warning of many others too,
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I'm sure, come to fruition when it comes to the response and the propaganda that we are receiving,
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that we are being bombarded with on this subject. I said sometime last year, I don't remember,
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I guess it was probably after the election, that you are about to get for the next several months and
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the next several years, a whole lot of toxic empathy, especially on the subject of immigration.
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They are going to show you the crying mother of three who is here illegally and who has worked hard
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and who is facing deportation and is scared because of Donald Trump's draconian anti-illegal
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immigration policies, and they are going to pull at your heartstrings. They're going to punch you in
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the gut, and they are going to tell you if you are a good person, if you have any humanity, if you have
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any compassion, if you have any empathy for this woman, you will stand strong against the authoritarian,
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anti-Christian, anti-love regime of Donald Trump, who is doing this cruel thing of making people who are
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here, they won't even say here illegally, they'll call them asylum seekers or refugees,
00:27:30.240
making them leave. They'll call it racist, but even more than that, they will certainly call it
00:27:38.020
heartless and mean. What the media will not show you is the other side of the moral equation. The media
00:27:45.100
will not remind you of Lake and Riley. They will not remind you of Kate Steinle. They will not remind you
00:27:52.660
of Molly Tibbetts. They will not show you the gang members that are being deported back to Colombia.
00:27:58.420
They will not show you the rapists and the other sex offenders and the murders and the gang members
00:28:05.940
that are being sent back to various parts of Mexico and South America and Haiti and the Middle East.
00:28:12.740
They won't show you those. They will pick and choose their purported victims, and they will tell you
00:28:18.520
that is the entire story, and they will use that to emotionally manipulate you.
00:28:24.440
But remember, Christians are not called to toxic empathy. We are not called primarily to empathy at
00:28:31.380
all. Empathy feels how someone feels. But Christians are called to love, and love is inextricably
00:28:38.540
intertwined with the truth. Remember 1 Corinthians 13 6, love never rejoices in wrongdoing. It rejoices
00:28:46.160
with the truth. The God who is love, 1 John 4 8, is also the source of truth, and his word is a really
00:28:55.080
good guide for what is morally right when it comes to all things, but including when it comes to
00:29:01.820
immigration. And it is not as easy as, well, I feel bad for this person. If I feel bad for this person is
00:29:09.760
how you make policy decisions you will make really, really bad and destructive, harmful policy
00:29:16.140
decisions. Okay? So I'll give you some examples from my book in just a minute, but let me back up and
00:29:21.680
tell you what's happening on immigration that I think is a really, really good thing and makes our
00:29:26.280
country better and is just and righteous and actually compassionate. So an ICE report, ICE is Immigration
00:29:34.540
and Customs Enforcement, from September 2024, indicated there are approximately 425,000 convicted
00:29:43.960
criminals living in the U.S. illegally. So illegal beyond just coming here the wrong way. They've
00:29:49.700
also been convicted of other crimes, many times violent crimes. This figure includes individuals
00:29:54.340
convicted of assault, sexual assault, crimes involving dangerous drugs like fentanyl. You'll notice that
00:30:01.500
these caravans that you see coming through Mexico, usually from South America, that most of them are
00:30:06.880
military-aged men. They don't look starving. They all are well-dressed. They all have their iPhones.
00:30:15.860
And I'm not saying that they're all coming here to commit heinous crimes, but even if one of them is,
00:30:21.900
that's enough. And even if none of them are, they still don't have a right to be here, okay? Because
00:30:26.160
we're a country, and a country has sovereignty, and a sovereign country has borders. You know you have to
00:30:31.880
have that, to have citizenship, right? In order for your citizenship to matter, and therefore your
00:30:36.440
rights as a citizen to matter, you know that a country has to have borders and sovereignties,
00:30:40.620
right? Or sovereignty, right? Because if it doesn't, then the country doesn't exist, and your rights
00:30:46.080
dissolve because they don't have any meaning, because they don't have anyone to protect or enforce them.
00:30:51.380
So here's what I said on X just the other day. The total arrests of illegal aliens from January 23rd to
00:31:03.820
January 26th, 2,373 to be exact. And they've also clarified this. For the record, targeted enforcement
00:31:13.060
operations, so this is like gathering these illegal aliens up, deporting them, are planned arrests of
00:31:18.500
known criminal aliens who threaten national security or public safety. Violent gang members arrested
00:31:26.660
on Sunday. Nearly 50 illegal aliens were taken into custody during a raid targeting drug trafficking in
00:31:32.500
Venezuelan gang members in Colorado, according to the DEA. You remember this when we talked about
00:31:38.540
Trende Aragua, the very dangerous Venezuelan gang that had basically taken over apartment complexes
00:31:43.340
in Aurora, Colorado, and they were like, oh, no, this isn't happening. And then Vance did that
00:31:48.560
interview, and the interviewer was like, it's only a handful of apartment complexes. And he was like,
00:31:54.360
do you hear yourself? A handful of apartment complexes in the United States of America have
00:31:59.220
been taken over by a gang of illegal aliens from Venezuela, and you think that that's all right?
00:32:04.480
That's not a justification. So apparently, a lot of those guys out of here. Praise God.
00:32:09.000
Other examples of ICE arrests of violent aliens this week, according to the Boston Herald,
00:32:14.940
25-year-old Haitian national, I don't even know how to pronounce his name, but he was arrested by ICE
00:32:22.260
agents last week in their first raid of the Boston area. He was convicted more than a dozen times before
00:32:27.960
being taken into custody on Wednesday. And here is a video of him saying, I'm not going back. Stop five.
00:32:35.280
I'm not going back to Haiti. One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.
00:32:40.740
ICE says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years.
00:32:46.020
Trump, you feel me? You're biting forever, bro. Thank Obama for everything that he did for me, bro.
00:32:52.440
Did you hear that? He said, thank Obama for everything he did for me, bro. And I'm not going back to Haiti.
00:32:58.620
Well, it looks like you are because you have been arrested and you are saying that from the back of
00:33:05.960
the cop car. So because I love my neighbor, I want that person gone. Because I love the most
00:33:14.920
vulnerable people in this country, I don't want that person here. Because I love the country in which
00:33:22.600
God has providentially placed me, whose welfare I pray for and seek as I am called to do. I support
00:33:30.500
exactly what Trump is doing here. Because I want those people gone. I want my community safe. I want
00:33:38.140
the children in poor communities, especially that are hardest hit by that, by this. I want them safe.
00:33:45.220
There was another illegal alien, Julio Cesar Diaz Martinez. He was arrested on January 23rd for
00:33:53.660
sex trafficking and overstaying his visa, which means, by the way, because he had a visa, he was
00:34:00.180
vetted and technically legal, but he overstayed. So then he became illegal and he was a sex trafficker.
00:34:08.620
Then we have Jose Roberto Rodriguez Urbina, an alleged MS-13 gang member. He was arrested on
00:34:16.420
January 22nd for overstaying his terms of admission to the U.S. He is wanted in El Salvador on extortion
00:34:23.220
charges. So those are just a few, just a few of the illegal aliens, the very dangerous people who have
00:34:31.240
been deported. Praise God. J.D. Vance was asked about some of their immigration law enforcement
00:34:40.780
that has occurred over the past week on Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan. She brought up the
00:34:48.300
fact that some Afghan, she would call them refugees, some of them legitimately are refugees, are now being
00:34:56.280
sent back home. And she said, you know, some of these people are people who helped us during the
00:35:01.640
Afghanistan crisis a few years ago, the debacle. And I just, it's like that meme of that, like goose
00:35:06.960
chasing the person, like, like, uh, who caused that? Like who caused that debacle? Like who caused the
00:35:13.800
disaster in Afghanistan that made these poor Afghans have to come over to the United States? Of course,
00:35:19.520
the answer is Joe Biden. She didn't go into that, but anyway, um, that's what they're talking about
00:35:24.740
here. And she calls all of these people, asylum seekers and says they've all been vetted. Why do
00:35:28.800
they have to go home? And, uh, J.D. Vance has a response to that. Here is SOT7. Well, Margaret,
00:35:38.700
I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. In fact,
00:35:42.860
we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted and then were literally planning
00:35:48.860
terrorist attacks on our country. That happened during the campaign. If you may remember, I don't want
00:35:53.660
my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted. And because I don't
00:35:58.180
want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens, kids to do that either.
00:36:02.460
No. And that was a very particular case. It wasn't clear if he was radicalized when he got here
00:36:06.200
or while he was living. I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person in my country.
00:36:11.060
And I think most Americans agree with me. Yeah. So that kind of became the meme yesterday.
00:36:15.860
That became the rallying cry. It's like make America great again. And then I don't really care,
00:36:21.100
Margaret. That's now we need like we need hats and we need t-shirts that when Vance runs for office
00:36:28.300
in four years, I don't really care. Margaret needs to be on the red hats that he sells. It's like,
00:36:34.740
okay, like let's, uh, let's tussle about the details of whether this terrorist was radicalized
00:36:42.500
in the United States or whether he was radicalized back home. It doesn't matter. Like he's got to go home.
00:36:47.280
That's the point. He also made another good point about immigration policy here in SOT6.
00:36:54.480
I think the president is to be commended for actually coming in and doing something with
00:36:59.740
this incredible mandate the American people gave him. He's not sitting in the Oval Office doing
00:37:04.640
nothing. He's doing the American people's business. And I think they're going to see a lot of good
00:37:08.200
effects from it. This is a very unique country and it was founded by some immigrants and some
00:37:13.280
settlers. But just because we were founded by immigrants doesn't mean that 240 years later
00:37:17.840
that we have to have the dumbest immigration policy in the world. No country says that temporary
00:37:23.080
visitors, their children will be given complete access to the benefits and blessings of American
00:37:29.020
citizenship. Okay. I think that every high school teacher should play that clip when you're talking
00:37:34.620
about logic and argumentation and fallacies because he pointed it out so perfectly. She tried to make
00:37:40.000
the argument, well, we're a nation of immigrants. Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant. Okay. So
00:37:44.880
we should allow MS-13 gang members to take over apartment complexes in Colorado? Can you track with
00:37:50.680
me, Margaret? I'm trying to square that circle and you're not explaining it. But he did a perfect job
00:37:55.800
of going straight into the argument. Just because we had immigrants 250 years ago doesn't mean we have
00:38:00.720
to have the world's dumbest immigration policy today. That was a perfect way of saying that. And if they
00:38:06.340
were ever made to explain their connection, the logical connection that they're making, okay,
00:38:11.540
because Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant, like we need to have open borders today, logically take
00:38:18.520
me there. Like make the argument. The burden of proof should be on them. They are making the absurd
00:38:25.180
claim that basically functionally we should not have borders and we should not have any specifications
00:38:32.260
or parameters at all when it comes to immigration policy. I just want to clarify some things when
00:38:38.260
it comes to asylum seekers, because you hear this term interchangeably with illegal immigrants. You
00:38:45.000
will be seeing a lot of videos from people saying these are all refugees. These are people seeking
00:38:49.440
asylum and they're being deported. That is not what is happening. People who are here legally as
00:38:55.580
refugees are not being rounded up and deported and neither are asylum seekers. But one,
00:39:01.640
even for asylum seekers and refugees, asylum seekers, let me give you the actual definition,
00:39:07.540
same criteria as refugee, according to the DHS, a person who is unable or unwilling to return to his
00:39:13.380
or her country of nationality because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of
00:39:18.820
race, religion, nationality, membership, and a particular social group or political opinion.
00:39:23.460
Okay. So that is the actual definition. It is not just someone who leaves a less rich country for
00:39:29.100
the richer country of the United States. It's not just someone who wants to work. It's not just
00:39:33.420
someone who wants a better life. It's not just someone who wants their kid to be a citizen.
00:39:37.240
It's not just someone who doesn't like living where they live or doesn't see a whole lot of
00:39:42.060
opportunity there. I don't blame those people for wanting to come to a country like America,
00:39:47.560
but that doesn't make them an asylum seeker. It doesn't make them a refugee. It makes them a
00:39:54.600
migrant or an immigrant. And there are legal ways to go about becoming a citizen of the United States
00:40:01.120
or trying to work here legally. But not everyone who shows up at the border and says that they're
00:40:06.660
seeking asylum actually qualifies for that. And even if they do, there has to be a certain number
00:40:13.240
of asylum seekers and refugees that we take every year. And America traditionally, compared to the
00:40:18.660
rest of the world, is insanely generous, insanely accessible, insanely open to those who are true
00:40:25.020
refugees and asylum seekers. And by the way, we also take tons and tons of legal immigrants every year,
00:40:32.380
more than the vast majority of countries. But again, as we've talked about, for some reason,
00:40:38.540
America is seen as having this moral obligation to accept anyone and everyone without any vetting
00:40:45.180
that no one expects of Zimbabwe. No one expects of Japan. But for some reason, America and many
00:40:54.780
Western European nations, because I don't know, we have to pay reparations for supposed sins of our past,
00:41:01.720
we're supposed to allow everyone in. And if we don't, it's some form of bigotry. So not everyone who
00:41:07.960
is an illegal immigrant is an asylum seeker or refugee. Even if you are an asylum seeker or a
00:41:13.720
refugee, there's only a certain number of those that any country can allow in. And that's fine.
00:41:20.920
That is just good immigration policy. We can have a debate on how many that should be, what the limit
00:41:28.780
should be. But there has to be some kind of limit. Not everyone has a right to go into a country just
00:41:35.500
because they want to. And again, countries have the right, the responsibility to care for the
00:41:42.000
citizens of their country first. In the same way that you care about your kids more than you care
00:41:47.660
about my kids, more than you care about your neighbor's kids. You don't hate your neighbors
00:41:51.940
because you lock your door at night. You don't hate the person who shows up at your door. Say a
00:41:59.260
stranger shows up at your door. They need food, water. Maybe you give them food and water,
00:42:03.840
but they say, well, no, I want to come in and I want to sleep in your kid's bed and I'm going to
00:42:09.020
stay here and you can't kick me out. Well, because you're a sane person, because you care about your
00:42:15.220
home. You care about not only the things in your home, but you care about the people in your home.
00:42:19.460
You care about the children that God has given you to steward. You're going to kick that person out.
00:42:23.960
You don't hate that person, but you don't know that person. And you know that your primary
00:42:29.040
responsibility is to your family and your children. Yeah, countries are like families.
00:42:35.360
The American government has a primary responsibility to its own people. And according to Romans 13,
00:42:41.840
it has been instituted by God to reward good and to punish evil for it does not bear the sword in
00:42:48.460
vain. We can have compassionate refugee policy and still enforce our borders and make sure that we
00:42:54.640
have limitations on our immigration that best protects the rights and the safety and well-being
00:43:02.480
and prosperity of our own people. You'll remember Biden's immigration disaster was extremely deleterious,
00:43:12.720
especially to the most vulnerable population, and that is children. They just refused to allow Texas
00:43:20.740
and the border states to secure their border. They undermined every effort by Texas and Arizona to
00:43:26.660
place any kind of physical obstruction, to disincentivize this dangerous track of people,
00:43:32.220
the sex trafficking, the drug trafficking, the gun trafficking that exists at the border.
00:43:37.060
Texas has worked really hard to try to block entrance and access, and the Biden administration very
00:43:43.460
actively undermined that. You can go back and listen to the episodes where we covered that in detail.
00:43:49.900
Under the Biden administration, the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs
00:43:56.660
Enforcement Agency, ICE, said that they could not account for 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children
00:44:03.540
who failed to appear for their immigration court hearings. You heard a lot about that, the separation
00:44:09.480
of parents and children at the border under the Trump administration. Did any of those social
00:44:13.360
justice evangelicals have anything to say about this, the tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors?
00:44:21.620
Were they sex trafficked? Were they kidnapped? Were they murdered? We don't know where they are,
00:44:27.300
but because we incentivized this track through liberal loose immigration policy, they came here and
00:44:34.220
they haven't been found. You'll also remember we've talked about many times the young children who were
00:44:42.020
found in the desert at the border. They were abandoned by the coyotes or the traffickers or even their
00:44:48.900
parents or just the grownups that had taken them there. On November 24th, for example, of last year,
00:44:56.700
the spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety said that he found a two-year-old little girl
00:45:01.580
by herself at the border. She was a part of a group of 211 illegal immigrants, which included 60
00:45:08.760
unaccompanied children and minors ages 2 to 17. That is what we incentivize. That is what we encourage
00:45:17.380
when we open our borders. And when we say, yeah, you're probably going to be able to get in and work
00:45:23.340
and get benefits. But when we say, no, it's not worth it for you to even try, then we disincentivize
00:45:31.200
that kind of dangerous track that endangers especially women and children. And as you see
00:45:38.800
all of this, like, and we don't even have time to get into the back and forth with Trump in Columbia.
00:45:43.720
Trump tried to send illegal aliens from Columbia back to Columbia. Columbia said, no, they went back
00:45:49.860
and forth. Trump was like, OK, here's some tariffs. And Columbia eventually was like, OK, we'll take him
00:45:54.760
back. It's all just a really bitter reminder. All of this that we see happening so fast with this
00:46:02.100
deportations and enforcement of the law, the flexing of the muscle by Donald Trump to make smaller
00:46:08.780
countries do the right thing. That Lakin Riley's death was a policy choice. It was a policy choice.
00:46:17.360
It was the result of deliberate policy decisions by the Biden administration
00:46:22.620
and other politicians. Biden acted for four years like nothing could be done.
00:46:28.400
Something could have been done. He didn't want to. All of the murder, all of the rape,
00:46:34.720
all of the preventable crimes. Citizens commit crimes too, but all crimes by illegal aliens are
00:46:40.100
preventable. All of these preventable crimes took place that represent a loss of life, a loss of
00:46:45.900
dignity, a loss of property, a loss of economic opportunity. All of those were the result of a
00:46:52.120
policy choice. We are seeing that now that Trump has accomplished more in five days when it comes
00:46:57.600
to immigration than Biden did over four years and over four decades in Washington, D.C. You're going to
00:47:09.180
see a lot of gaslighting, a lot of toxic empathy from Christians, from celebrities. I want to give you
00:47:17.000
one example. Do we have Selena Gomez? Sot 10? Okay, let's play Sot 10 as an example.
00:47:26.000
I just want to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The children
00:47:37.160
I don't understand. I don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't.
00:47:48.560
I don't know what to do. I'll try everything, I promise.
00:47:54.480
All right. I don't know what she thinks is happening. Mexicans in general are not just
00:48:03.020
getting deported. Actually, we're protecting children because we're deporting criminal,
00:48:10.320
violent, illegal aliens first. We are protecting the children of this country by protecting our
00:48:18.460
borders, by disincentivizing the sex trafficking that occurs because of the liberal immigration law
00:48:26.840
that has prevailed over the past not only four years, but by and large over the past several
00:48:33.120
decades. What is happening right now is righteous and good and, again, compassionate for our country.
00:48:41.260
You're going to see a lot from Christianity today. You're going to see a lot from the typical
00:48:46.000
so-called progressive Christians that this is not the way of Jesus, that this is not Christian.
00:48:57.620
I wish I had time to just read you my entire chapter in Toxic Empathy about this, but I don't,
00:49:08.620
unfortunately. I do encourage you. I thought that this book, Toxic Empathy, was going to be most
00:49:14.440
important before the election and that it wouldn't have as much use after the election because
00:49:22.500
everyone had kind of known what they needed to know. But now I realize it's really more important
00:49:29.180
than ever because you are going to be manipulated and you are going to be gaslit and you are going to
00:49:38.000
be told that you're not a good Christian if you support deportation, if you support borders,
00:49:42.520
and you support the enforcement of immigration law. Not only do I lay out the facts about the dangers
00:49:51.220
of illegal immigration, but I also give you the biblical case for enforcing borders, for having
00:49:58.500
borders. Everywhere that walls are depicted, either literally or symbolically throughout scripture,
00:50:05.640
they are seen as symbols or as the protection of order. And God is a God of order. He placed us in a
00:50:14.140
garden, not a jungle. He is a God of parameters. He is a God of definitions. Borders, countries were all his
00:50:21.900
idea for our good. The Tower of Babel and the confusion that ensued after that because people couldn't speak
00:50:30.100
the same language. That was a curse, not a blessing. God has given us families and communities and
00:50:39.800
countries so that we could build societies in which people, in particular, the most vulnerable people
00:50:47.080
could thrive. Anarchy and lawlessness and chaos, those are all seen as descriptions of what Satan loves
00:50:56.160
throughout scripture. Order and parameters and borders and strength. These are all part of what God wants
00:51:04.680
for us. Now, does that mean that we can't have any immigration? That's not it at all. That's certainly
00:51:10.320
not what I argue in my book. Does that mean that we can't love people who are different than us? That we
00:51:16.300
shouldn't have mercy for people who are true refugees or sojourners? That's not at all. What God argues,
00:51:22.900
what the Bible argues, or what I argue in my book. And I had planned to read you a long excerpt from
00:51:28.660
this, but we're running out of time and I want to get to my last subject first. So I really do
00:51:33.680
encourage you to get Toxic Empathy. You can see it's a pretty short book. If I can say without
00:51:39.600
sounding braggadocious, it is a New York Times bestseller. And I hope that it helped a lot of people
00:51:45.120
before the election see things in a way that is very different than what the progressive media
00:51:50.440
wants you, how they want you to see them. And this is from a Christian perspective,
00:51:55.220
but also factual perspective. You will be so armed with data and with logic and with biblical
00:52:02.440
support for the conservative position on the big subjects, including immigration, including gender
00:52:09.080
and abortion and all of that. If you get this book, Toxic Empathy, you can get it on Amazon,
00:52:13.280
toxicempathy.com. All right. I want to talk about, I wanted to make sure that I have some time to talk
00:52:19.340
about Ketanji Brown Jackson and her witchcraft puka shells. Okay. I saw this and I haven't seen
00:52:26.080
anyone else talk about it. And I just think it's, I just think it's interesting and actually more
00:52:31.400
important, more important than people might think. So we'll talk a lot about the dangers and the
00:52:37.800
pervasiveness of witchcraft on this, on this podcast. So this is a, this is all part of that
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Okay, so I saw this post on X going around by some Democratic commentator named Christopher Webb,
00:54:08.800
and it is a picture of Ketanji Brown Jackson, and she's wearing this cowrie shell. It's called cowrie
00:54:14.760
shells. I would have called them puka shells. I don't know what the difference is, but they're a
00:54:19.840
shell necklace, a shell earrings, and I would have thought nothing of it. You know, it's fine or like
00:54:27.160
fashion choices. I do see how it's kind of an ode to Ruth Bader Ginsburg because she would always wear
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the like white thing on her chest, and so I could see how that's like a symbol of resistance, but I
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would have never known that it was maybe more than that. So this person says, Christopher Webb says,
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I love this so much. At the inauguration, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson wore a distinctive collar adorned
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with cowrie shells, which are believed to offer protection from evil in African traditions. This choice
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mirrors the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's practice of using collars to convey a message.
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She does look upset in that picture, but I said, this is witchcraft, and a lot of people were upset
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by that. It's not witchcraft. It's just a fashion statement. Okay, maybe it is. It could just be a
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coincidence. I can't say exactly what she was thinking that morning when she got dressed, but I did want to
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look into this. Is it really witchcraft? It is witchcraft if it is this idea that she is fending
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off some kind of evil spirits, and voodoo and this kind of mysticism is extremely prevalent in Africa
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and places like Haiti, so I wanted to look into it a little bit more. Speaking to the Huffington Post
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following the inauguration, fashion and costume historian Shelby Ivey Christie said, in many African
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traditions, cowrie shells are believed to carry protective properties and spiritual significance.
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She said, they're often seen as conduits of ancestral wisdom and protection used in divination practices
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and spiritual ceremonies. Okay, so that is witchcraft. Like, that is witchcraft. I don't know if that's what
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she's practicing here. If so, I think that it is extremely troubling for a Supreme Court justice who,
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as we saw in her confirmation hearing, cannot define what a woman is because she's not a biologist,
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whom we have also seen from the various statistics that are put out, that she has the most words to
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give in all of the arguments compared to, like, I don't know, it's like tens of thousands of words
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in her arguments versus, like, Clarence Thomas, who has to say very little to say so much. And so
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someone with this much power, with this much to say, potentially, possibly practicing or believing
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in some kind of witchcraft is actually very scary. This was especially true, this person says, in many
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West African societies, which is where Brown Jackson's aunt served in the Peace Corps, the
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same aunt is credited with giving Brown Jackson's parents the idea for their daughter's name,
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Ketanji, to show pride in their African ancestry. So this is piecing things together that possibly
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this was a purposeful act of trying to wear something that was a conveyor, a conduit of her
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ancestral wisdom, and that this is some kind of divination symbol. Kauri shells are still used today
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in divination rituals in one Yoruba tradition, a diviner, is that how you would pronounce that?
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Well, basically, a medium communicates with the 16 original ancestor spirits by casting the 16 Kauri
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shells on a carved wooden tray as he poses a question about the future. The Kauris answer
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this medium by landing either face up positive or face down negative. So like flipping a coin,
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that's according to Emory University. I just want to remind you that divination is an abomination to
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the Lord, who is the creator of all things, but the source of all goodness and truth. So divination refers
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to the practice of like you're seeking knowledge or seeking wisdom from ancestors or from the other
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side, from dead people through some kind of supernatural means. And as we talked about a
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couple of weeks ago, we were talking about oils, like witchcraft is the use of some kind of medium
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or material in order to access supernatural power. So all of these things kind of go hand in hand.
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And Deuteronomy 18, 9 through 14, God says, there shall not be found among you one who burns his son
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or his daughter as an offering, as an offering anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes
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or interprets omens or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer. Okay. So talking to the
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dead, trying to talk to the dead. People have asked me before, like, should we like be praying to the
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dead? No, that is necromancy or one who inquires of the dead. For whoever does these things is an
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abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations, the Lord, your God is driving them
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out before you. 1 Samuel 15, 23, for rebellion is as the sin of divination and presumption is as
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iniquity and idolatry. Practicing divination is listed as one of the reasons for Israel's exile in
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2 Kings 17, 17 and Acts 16. Paul and Silas encounter a young girl who's practicing divination
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and Paul casts out the evil spirit that is actually empowering her to practice divination. So it is
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real in the sense that it might actually access you some things that are true, but there are only two
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kinds of powers in the world, and that is heavenly power that comes from God and satanic, demonic power
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that comes from hell. And so any kind of access to the supernatural, if it is outside of the bounds
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that God has given us, whether it is the superstitious belief that shells are going to protect you or that
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they're conduits of some kind of supernatural wisdom or protection or something, or whether it's like
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straight up like casting spells or something like that, anything that is outside of God's bounds of
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seeking supernatural power, that is a form of witchcraft and demonic activity that we should
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mess around with, that is not fashionable, that is completely inappropriate. Again, if this is her
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intent for Supreme Court justice, really for anyone, but especially someone who has such a long-term
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impact on our laws in the future of our country. Pray for her, pray for her family, pray for this
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country, pray for President Trump, that he would continue to be bold and succeed. He does not give
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one rats behind what anyone thinks right now, and I love this Trump. I love that for us, and I love that
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for this country, and I'm just, I'm grateful for it. I had my skepticism about how this, how this
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administration would go, how this round would go, honestly. And you guys know, I, in the primary, I was a,
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I was a DeSantis supporter, but I have been so pleased with just how this past week has gone,
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really how things have gone since the election, but especially this past week. And so I'm just
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praising God again for the mercy that he has shown us through President Trump, but we've, obviously,
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we've got a lot of praying still to do, a lot of convincing and persuading still to do, and
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I think that the Lord can equip us to be up to the task. All right, that's all we've got time for