Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 28, 2025


Ep 1130 ｜ Trump Just Pardoned Her. Here’s What Prison Was Really Like ｜ Guest： Bevelyn Williams


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1 hour and 4 minutes

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174.37126

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11,179

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800

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00:00:00.000 Am I finally going back to Target? They are abolishing their DEI programs, but here's what
00:00:07.160 that really means. First, however, we are talking to Beverly Williams, who was recently released
00:00:13.420 from federal prison thanks to a pardon by Donald Trump after she was prosecuted by the Biden
00:00:19.440 administration for blocking an entrance to an abortion clinic. She has an amazing testimony.
00:00:27.300 You will be so edified by the reminder that God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off
00:00:35.860 without a hitch, and he is always working through the lives of believers. Without further ado,
00:00:43.060 here is Beverly.
00:00:44.060 Beverly, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. First, can you just tell us how you're
00:00:59.220 feeling right now?
00:00:59.900 Oh, man. It's a lot of emotions. I'm registering everything in waves right now. It's like sometimes
00:01:10.600 I just sit in my house and I just be like, oh, snap. I'm really home. I'm not in prison anymore.
00:01:18.440 I'm super joyful, so happy, so at peace, so thankful, but yet I'm exhausted. I feel like I can't get
00:01:28.920 enough sleep because I didn't realize how much I was in such spiritual warfare like being in prison.
00:01:35.180 Like prison is—a lot goes on in prison spiritually, so I'm exhausted in a sense, and I'm just like—I'm
00:01:44.800 still kind of traumatized by the experience in itself, and so it's just like a jumble of emotions.
00:01:51.440 Mm-hmm. Can you tell us more about that, about the spiritual warfare that you saw while you were in
00:01:57.580 prison? Well, like when I would go to the abortion clinic, right, and we would go out and protest for
00:02:05.240 a couple of hours, it was always a known fact. Like after you leave, anybody that has ever
00:02:09.440 protested in front of abortion clinic will agree with me. When you're done, all you're going to need
00:02:14.400 is food, a good shower, and sleep. You are like spiritually drained because there's just so much
00:02:21.620 going on. And that literally was prison every day, all day. People yelling, screaming, almost getting
00:02:30.540 into fights, getting into fights, arguments. Like you can't have a normal conversation with people
00:02:36.620 in prison. Like you really have to pull them in. Most conversations would be an argument or a fight
00:02:43.360 or, you know, people are high. There's drugs everywhere, you know.
00:02:48.020 Really? In prison, there's drugs everywhere.
00:02:50.880 Girl, there's more drugs in prison than on the street. Okay? People go to prison and get strung
00:02:57.280 out, amongst other things. So my bunkie would like get high in my cell, and it was like nothing I could
00:03:04.280 do about it because that's her cell too. Stealing. I mean, like you got to be on point about
00:03:10.460 everything. You can't leave your locker open because you might go and come back and it's gone.
00:03:15.120 And if one person reports it to the lieutenant, they're going to shake the whole unit down. And
00:03:21.840 then if you have contraband, it gets taken away. And so let me tell you, I had contraband. Girl,
00:03:27.180 they give you these mattresses that's this thick. Okay? Girl, I had three. I was not about to do that.
00:03:34.760 Okay? That's where I drew the line. When my spine started talking back to me when I woke up in the
00:03:39.440 morning, I was like, okay, no. I'm going to have to make it happen. So, I mean, prison is like,
00:03:46.560 it's nothing you can ever just sit and get comfortable with. It's concrete everywhere.
00:03:50.560 It's stainless steel beds, stainless steel toilet. You have to use the bathroom in front of somebody.
00:03:56.220 You have no privacy. You know, we have separate places for showers, but it's like,
00:04:04.060 it's only a curtain separating you from the entire unit. So, you just, you can be as comfortable as
00:04:10.180 you can be, but I just could never be comfortable enough to be rested.
00:04:15.660 Were you able to connect to any of your fellow inmates? Like, did they want to talk to you? Did
00:04:21.780 they want to know why you were there? Were there any relationships you were able to make? Or was it
00:04:26.360 really just, as you said, going at it kind of all the time conflict?
00:04:32.380 Right. So, I will say that God gave me the ability to be a light in prison. I was seen as a
00:04:39.440 mother figure to a lot of the women there. Somebody that they can vent to, somebody that they can talk
00:04:44.600 to when they needed help. I tried to help them, but unfortunately, I was hindered a lot because of
00:04:50.240 drug addiction. Like, I'm not going to give you support for you to go and blow it on drugs. You
00:04:55.400 know what I mean? So, I had to give more moral support and more verbal support than anything else.
00:05:03.640 Your actions. So, the thing is, in prison,
00:05:07.860 inmate.com works faster than Twitter. When word get out in prison, word gets out. People talk. And so,
00:05:15.720 what you're known for, your actions in prison. If you're a liar in prison, people are going to know
00:05:21.420 you're a liar. If you're a swindler, they're going to know you're a swindler. If you're a homosexual,
00:05:25.180 oh, they're going to know. Like, whatever you do, not only are people going to know it, but you're
00:05:30.120 going to be labeled as what you are. So, actions mean everything in prison. So, for me, you know,
00:05:35.800 word will get out about my actions because I was known as the girl that pays her bills. Like,
00:05:40.460 let me tell you how a bill is created. So, in prison, commissary is cash. What a
00:05:45.500 food, cookies, cakes, all that stuff that you get at commissary, that's as good as
00:05:50.320 cash in prison because that's what you survive on, right? So, if, like, a girl works in the
00:05:56.480 kitchen and it's burger day and I want her to bring me back an extra burger because,
00:06:01.960 you know, the portions are small, she might be like, all right, cool, that's going to be
00:06:05.580 $5 worth of commissary. So, she'll write me a bill of the things she wants on commissary and I
00:06:10.440 would then purchase them and give them to her. And that was my way of paying her back for what she did
00:06:14.540 for me. So, it's a lot of bills. Like, commissary day will be on, for me, was Wednesdays and
00:06:19.720 Tuesdays. By that day, people are collecting up bills and I was known for paying my bills.
00:06:25.200 I was known for being a woman of my word. If I said I was going to buy your book,
00:06:29.680 which, buying a book means, like, I get $90 a week to spend on my name on commissary. If I needed
00:06:37.560 more than $90, I would put another $90 on someone else's books, have my husband put it on,
00:06:42.880 and then I would spend $70 worth of commissary and then that person would spend $20. And usually,
00:06:48.660 I would get people that don't have family support, that don't have people from the outside to help
00:06:53.060 them, you know? So, I became known for my actions as an honorable woman, a stand-up woman. They didn't
00:07:01.960 really want to hear me preach. They wanted to see my walk. And my walk made them more comfortable to
00:07:08.620 come and talk to me about the Lord. And, you know, they were here while I was there. So, then
00:07:12.140 they would, like, inquire me and see how I was moving. And then they'd be like, let me go talk
00:07:16.100 to her. Like, oh, are you really here because you were preaching? Like, you were Christian?
00:07:20.180 And they'd be like, oh, man, I need to talk to you. Like, and they would tell me, like, I'm going
00:07:23.520 through this, da-da-da-da-da-da. Can you pray for me? And that's how that open door came about.
00:07:27.840 My bunkie that was smoking at the time, she stopped and she did give her life to Christ.
00:07:32.400 Wow.
00:07:32.720 That's one person, for sure, who lived with me because I would just minister to her all
00:07:36.480 the time. We would be on lockdown. And I would just, you know, listen. I listened a lot.
00:07:42.140 So, by me being a listening ear to these women, I was able to be a woman of counsel. You know,
00:07:47.820 when she would get upset about something and she would come in a room and she's ready to
00:07:50.800 fight or beat the girl up because she's mad at her. I'd be like, listen, you can't just put
00:07:55.720 your hands on everybody. You have to have a conversation. Go and talk to them. She was like,
00:07:59.940 well, I was going to do it. She asked me to do her toenails. Now I'm not doing them. I said,
00:08:03.500 no, now you are going to do them because you're a Christian and we're supposed to bless our enemy.
00:08:08.360 So, now you're going to do them. You're going to do the best toenails she's ever had in her life.
00:08:12.580 Right? So, I would teach her, like, principles like that and she would listen.
00:08:16.600 And so, the ministry was, it was thick in prison. It was a lot of ministry.
00:08:21.220 Gosh, what Satan means for evil, God always uses for good in the life of the believer.
00:08:25.580 Can you tell me about what your prayers were like while you were there? Because even while
00:08:31.560 God was redeeming that time that you spent there, I am sure you spent many, many hours just wanting
00:08:36.320 to be home, to be with your baby, to be with your husband. So, what were you praying when you were
00:08:41.960 laying at night on your three mattresses? Oh, man. I, oh, man. A lot of nights, I would just pray
00:08:53.140 for peace. Like, the first three weeks, I would wake up in shock. Like, my heart would be beating
00:09:01.040 out of my chest. I would just be like, it would hit me like, oh, my God, like, you're really in
00:09:05.080 federal prison. It's so humbling. Like, you're, you're stripped and you're placed at the lowest.
00:09:12.620 It's, I mean, after prison, what is there? Death. Like, those are only two lows you can go to on
00:09:19.340 this earth. So, a lot of waking up in shock and asking God for peace. I never, in my mind, thought
00:09:27.080 that he would leave me nor forsake me. I trusted him and I knew, I know God enough to know he's a
00:09:32.400 good God and he keeps his promises. So, that wasn't the issue. Yeah. It was just the hurt,
00:09:37.020 the anguish, the, the loneliness, missing my daughter. I was praying for, like, God to protect
00:09:45.500 her from my absence. Yeah. That she wouldn't be so grievous, you know, grievous about it. So,
00:09:54.060 a lot of peace, a lot of protection, a lot of prayers of shalom. And I knew it was an assignment.
00:10:00.860 So, I said, Lord, I want to be able to not focus on my own personal issues and get to the assignment
00:10:05.200 with these girls in here because these girls in here are lost. Yeah. And I mean, when I say the
00:10:09.560 harvest is plenty, but the workers are few, you had Christians even on the compound that were,
00:10:15.600 like, working there, but they weren't strong Christians. They were very judgmental to the
00:10:20.180 girls. They were very condemning of the girls and telling them, oh, you know, you're a sinner,
00:10:25.020 you're a sinner. And my concept was like, no, listen, yeah, we were all born in sin. That's why we
00:10:31.120 have to be born again. But we don't have to be stuck in sin. Jesus didn't die for us to keep
00:10:37.260 crucifying him with constant sinning. Like, we were birthed in the flesh, but now we have to be
00:10:41.900 birthed of the spirit. And so, a lot of, like, the way I would teach and the way I would talk to
00:10:47.840 these girls, it was literally the same things they would say about Jesus. They was like, who? Like,
00:10:51.980 I've never heard anybody talk like that before. Many of them would be like, I never really met a
00:10:56.080 Christian before. Like, you're so, you're not like, I wasn't stuck up or hard to talk to or so
00:11:01.140 holy art thou. Like, they would come and talk to me. And I mean, they're dropping F-bones in every
00:11:05.160 sentence. And I still was, like, able to sit and listen to them and be like, oh, okay. All right.
00:11:11.040 I understand. All right. And my mom did this to me. My mom did that. You know, my, my bunkie,
00:11:15.700 she was a prostitution. She was 13 years old. 13. And so, for me, I had to operate with complete
00:11:24.880 compassion and patience. I couldn't be caught up on what's going on at home. So, those prayers
00:11:32.040 were prayers of peace, prayers of shalom, and also praying for the people in the prison.
00:11:37.180 And your daughter is how old? She's, is she two or three? Two. My goodness. And you were sentenced
00:11:43.720 to three and a half years. So, you were thinking that by the time you got out of prison, gosh, so much,
00:11:50.640 I've got, you know, three little girls myself all around that age. So, life goes by so fast. You
00:11:56.620 were thinking you're not going to be able to be with her, hug her again until she's a kindergartner,
00:12:01.960 going from a baby to a kindergartner. I'm sure that was heartbreaking to process.
00:12:07.940 I never processed it. I wouldn't allow myself to. I would never allow myself to agree or even touch and
00:12:14.340 agree with the sentence that they gave me. And I would never allow myself to just be like, yeah,
00:12:19.940 okay, this is it. I'm not going to be able to spend time with my daughter until she's five.
00:12:23.840 No. I wasn't accepting that. No. I knew that I was going home. I knew that God was going to deliver
00:12:29.980 me from the situation. I didn't know when. God forbid I had did my full time in prison. I would
00:12:34.920 have still trusted that God had a better plan or had saw something better through it. Are they
00:12:40.820 nice that I cried to God and was like upset with him? Absolutely. You know, Paul says in his book,
00:12:46.660 he says, um, I think it's in Romans. He says, or Corinthians. He says, sometimes I feel like,
00:12:52.920 you know, apostles, we just laid on display for everybody to look at and mock and make fun of.
00:12:58.900 And that's how I felt a lot of time in prison. I felt like, dang, man, like, I feel like I'm just
00:13:04.980 laid on display to be made fun of, to be mocked. Like I was mocked all the way up until the day I walked in
00:13:11.520 that cell. Um, I was, uh, my life just laid on display to just be here. Here's the example of
00:13:18.060 what happens when you serve God, like taunting mockery. And I just felt like, no, God, this can't
00:13:25.440 be it. This can't be the, the, the finisher. I just knew that this couldn't be the end of the story.
00:13:31.120 Cause you know, God does not like to be mocked, you know, when he says, touch not my anointed.
00:13:35.680 So I'm like, there has to, something has to come from this. So no, I never accepted that I would
00:13:40.840 be out and not be with my daughter until she was five. No, never.
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00:15:12.260 And tell me what the moment was like when you heard that you had been pardoned. Did you get a phone
00:15:18.060 call? What happened? So I actually watched this happen, um, in the TV room. So, okay. Usually
00:15:27.740 when you have people that have been in, I was locked up with people that got like 15 years, 30 years, 20
00:15:33.340 years, 50 years, like people who doing bids. So it's called being institutionalized. When you get in
00:15:40.700 prison that long, you start to kind of claim things as your own. Like this table is my table. That TV is
00:15:47.200 my TV. So it, um, and so like you kind of start to personalize things in the prison because you're
00:15:53.780 there for a long time. Um, and so the TV room was this girl's name. It's a nickname Flaka. She was
00:16:00.700 my neighbor. It was her room. Um, and so I woke up, I think they pop our locks. We locked down at 9 30
00:16:06.760 at night. They pop our locks at six. So when I heard them pop the lock, I just was like, no, let me go
00:16:11.860 run and put my teeth, my, my chair in the TV room. If you put your chair in, wherever you put your chair,
00:16:16.480 it's yours. So I put my chair in the TV room by the TV I wanted to use. And I was like, listen,
00:16:22.000 I don't care how much Flaka want to watch that show today. It's quiet. I'm watching the news. Okay.
00:16:28.300 Then I went, got back in bed, went to sleep, got up again. It was a very peaceful day. It was a
00:16:34.040 weekday. It was a Thursday. Usually on weekdays, you got to be up by 6am dressed in room, spotless bed
00:16:41.780 made by 7 30 in the morning every day where you can get in trouble. So it was so crazy because on
00:16:49.060 this particular Thursday, people were sleeping in, it was very quiet. It was very still. It felt like
00:16:55.100 a weekend, you know what I mean? And so I'm like, dang, like I get up and I'm about to go hop in the
00:17:01.820 shower and I'm contemplating. Do I want to put on my uniform or do I want to wear my grades, which you
00:17:06.100 can only really wear at the end of the day and on the weekends? And I just felt like this whisper,
00:17:11.280 like you're going home today. And the thing is, it was so hard for me to receive the whisper
00:17:16.660 because I had experienced every prayer being answered with a no. So I had gotten used to like
00:17:25.440 not even getting my hopes up about anything because it seemed like I was getting like crash
00:17:30.460 and burn. I mean, almost, I'm going to tell you on the 20th. So I was locked up with two
00:17:35.660 J6ers and one of them stayed in my unit, honey. It was Audrey. Me and her were very close. You
00:17:41.600 know, us pro-lifers and J6ers, we stuck together in prison because we were like the only few people
00:17:46.920 that felt like we came from some type of similar cloth. You know what I mean? It's hard to like,
00:17:52.180 it was hard to like vibe with somebody when you know, like you're there because you're really
00:17:55.580 innocent and they're there because they're guilty. Even if they've had a change of heart,
00:17:58.500 it's like, it's different. So I was expecting when the J6ers went home that the pro-lifers would
00:18:05.440 go home too. So when I woke up that morning on the 21st and Audrey was gone and I wasn't there,
00:18:12.580 I was devastated. I was devastated. So this is here again, another prayer I'm thinking is not
00:18:19.540 being answered or answered with the no. I didn't leave on the 20th like her. I'm stuck here in this
00:18:24.580 prison. So now I'm like, oh my God, am I really stuck here? Am I really left here?
00:18:29.080 And so now this is why the 23rd was so important for me to get up and hear that whisper. And I just
00:18:34.560 kind of dusted off. I didn't say no to it, but I didn't really be like, okay, yeah, I'm going home
00:18:39.320 day. I didn't do that. So then I took a shower, put on my grades, went into the TV room, cut on the
00:18:45.160 news. And I'm just like, you know what? I'm going to chill in here and I'm going to just watch the
00:18:48.620 news. I don't care. I'm just going to watch the news. And it was very hard for me on the 21st and the
00:18:53.360 22nd to watch the news because of what, because the J6s had left and I was still there. So it was
00:18:58.020 really hard for me. But anyway, so I'm watching the news and all I'm seeing is like World Economic
00:19:03.660 Forum going on, him addressing them. And then I'm watching some things about ICE in Boston
00:19:08.980 and how he's kind of clearing it out, clearing out, you know, the illegal immigrants and stuff
00:19:14.060 like that. And so then I take a break. I call my husband and my husband's like, babe, you're
00:19:18.540 buzzing on Twitter. I'm like, really? What's going on? He's like, well, Charlie Kerr just retweeted,
00:19:22.560 put your name in it. It's saying that pardons are coming out for y'all soon. They don't know how soon,
00:19:27.180 but they were hoping it would be at least Friday. So he was expecting to come pick me up that morning,
00:19:32.560 thinking that Trump would pardon me Friday. And then I would get out that day.
00:19:36.300 Again, so we're like hoping like, man, maybe, maybe I could get out on Thursday, you know,
00:19:42.280 that would be even better today, but whatever. So I get off the phone with him and I go sit back
00:19:47.360 down and watch the news. All I see on the screen is breaking news, Trump signing executive orders.
00:19:53.380 So I'm like, all right, let me watch again. I'm not thinking that he's going to sign my release.
00:19:58.360 I see him sign two executive orders about some two things that I forgot now because, you know,
00:20:04.360 what happened. And the next thing I know, I hear, okay, then we're going to sign this executive
00:20:08.440 order to pardon the pro-lifers who've been unjustly charged. And he said, how many of them?
00:20:14.020 And the guy said 23. And he said, yeah, shouldn't have never happened. And as I heard,
00:20:18.480 shouldn't have never happened. I'm like, wait, what? Oh, I'm like freaking out. I'm like, whoa.
00:20:23.640 Oh my God. Wait, he's about to sign it right now. Girl. He grabbed that pen and I heard.
00:20:32.380 I was screaming. Girl, I ran through the whole pod. I'm speaking in tongues. I'm praising. I'm going,
00:20:40.700 thank you, Jesus. I'm going bananas. And believe it or not, the inmates didn't get jealous. They
00:20:48.260 started applauding me. They started caring. And I was just like, oh my God, I'm going home. I called
00:20:55.900 my husband. I said, babe, come get me. Come get me. Excuse me. That's okay. I'm kind of coming up
00:21:02.760 from a cold. I was like, babe, come get me now. Come pack the car up. Come get me now. I should be
00:21:08.600 out in a couple of hours and I'm home. Okay. We played this yesterday, but in case people missed it,
00:21:16.520 I want to play the video of you reuniting with your daughter and with your husband. Here's
00:21:23.180 thought, too. Look, look, look. Look at mama. Look at mama. Look at mama. Look at us.
00:21:31.780 Come on. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. Oh, Bevlin,
00:21:52.460 and that just makes me cry. The joy there is just so real. You're exuberant. I mean,
00:22:00.100 I can't even imagine what you were feeling in that moment.
00:22:04.060 Oh, my God. First of all, before, they didn't record this part, but as I was walking out the
00:22:09.180 door of the prison, my daughter sees me and she starts kicking her feet. Like she's trying to jump
00:22:16.340 out of my husband's arms to see me. She missed me so much. Like we never been apart. The longest
00:22:26.140 we'd have ever been apart was maybe five days when Ricky took me to Vegas. But other than that,
00:22:31.500 I'm a stay-at-home mom. I'm always with my child. You know what I'm saying? A couple of hours,
00:22:35.820 that's what I get to take a nap. And then it's back on mom duty. I mean, so, oh, my God,
00:22:42.900 just to see her so happy, to see me like, and so ecstatic and laughing and smiling and giggling
00:22:48.080 and singing. And she has not nonstop since I've been home. She is so joyful. Even my husband's like,
00:22:55.380 babe, she's so joyful. Like, I don't think I've ever seen her this happy before. Mind you,
00:23:00.300 I have a happy baby, but it's just like another level. And so for me, I just, man,
00:23:06.140 I couldn't get out that door fast enough. I just enjoy getting in a car and just hearing an engine
00:23:17.120 run and just watching like the lines on the road go by. Like, it's like these small things that you
00:23:23.780 probably take for granted. They become everything when you don't have them anymore. And you're stuck
00:23:29.200 in a cell and in the same compound for days on end. It was amazing, girl. It was amazing.
00:23:37.740 My goodness. Praise God. Can you take us back to the day of the incident that you were prosecuted for?
00:23:48.920 You were, they say that you were obstructing the entrance to a clinic. What was really going on
00:23:54.880 that day that got you in trouble with the Biden administration? Right. So what they don't like
00:24:01.160 to talk about was, and this is, you got to understand when you go to trial, the judge has
00:24:06.280 the power to allow certain evidence to be administered or not. She also, or he also has the
00:24:13.620 power to decide which arguments can be presented to the jury and which can't. So if you have a corrupt
00:24:20.960 judge, your whole trial, even with enough evidence to be exonerated can cause you to be convicted
00:24:28.280 because the judge can control the narrative. And that's something that people need to understand.
00:24:34.540 So I was, it was a Jesus matters rally that I had did. There were police present at this rally.
00:24:43.500 There's a video that was posted on Facebook and Twitter of officers saying that we have been going to
00:24:50.240 that clinic for months and have never blocked the door. The judge will not allow that to be presented
00:24:56.220 to the jury. Okay. Um, the woman who complained that I slammed her hand in the door, officers were
00:25:04.480 present. I didn't get arrested. I didn't get a ticket. I didn't get a citation. I walked away two years
00:25:12.640 later after Roe versus Wade, uh, was overturned. Next thing I know I'm indicted. And they're saying
00:25:19.380 that I caused a hand injury to this woman who did not go to a doctor or urgent care until five days
00:25:28.060 later. Okay. So, so much could have happened in those five days that bruised arm could have came from
00:25:37.920 so much more. And technically on the stand, she lied about which hand was messed up in the picture.
00:25:44.660 It shows the left hand, but then on the stand, she claimed it was her right hand.
00:25:49.360 And unfortunately I had a court appointed judge, um, lawyer who did not hammer those questions.
00:25:55.160 We spoke to him when we would take breaks and we would say, Hey, you need to ask questions like this.
00:25:59.600 You're not asking these type of questions. And he would just, Oh yeah, I got it. I got it.
00:26:02.700 He was a DEI respectfully. He was, um, and he just wouldn't listen. And it was as if
00:26:10.640 he was acting like he was for me, but he was kind of serving me up on a platter. And so, uh,
00:26:18.000 the whole system was set up for me to fail. What they claimed happened and what actually happened
00:26:22.560 is two different stories. And, um, to say that I went there with the intent of crushing that woman's
00:26:28.560 hand in the door is an absolute lie. The woman opened, I was standing on a public sidewalk,
00:26:33.660 New York city's public sidewalk that my taxpayer money paid for. The woman opened the door and hit
00:26:39.200 me in the back. I then leaned back on the door right now. Did I take my time getting off the door
00:26:45.880 because she had kind of whacked me with the door? Yeah, I did. But to say that I went there and I just
00:26:50.640 put her hand in the door and crushed it with my back. It's a blatant lie. And I should have been
00:26:55.740 found that guilty because intent alone, even if the hand injury actually happened,
00:27:01.960 intent, you're supposed to be convicted on intent. The question was, did I intend to go there for
00:27:08.660 that? No, that was a happenstance. Okay. Um, and so there was just, again, so much that my lawyer
00:27:15.580 didn't explain so much that the judge hindered from happening. She did not even allow us to bring
00:27:21.160 up the argument of freedom of speech, which I basically happened to me. I was violated from
00:27:26.660 my freedom of speech. They will manipulate the words that I said when I say this is war and the,
00:27:32.760 we're going to terrorize this place. Even though in on video, you could see, I meant
00:27:37.760 protesters coming, preaching against abortion, not violence. They never shown on video. There will
00:27:46.520 not be a video of me getting violent. I think they have one video of me, like kind of moving someone
00:27:52.880 out my way. But in the video, I got 40 people around me. And I'm, I think I had one protester
00:27:59.220 kind of like feeling alive by butt. And so I had pushed them, pushed the protester back. So it's
00:28:04.560 like, how do you present this type of evidence where there's 40 people around me, pro-life protesters
00:28:12.060 and pro-choice protesters and say, oh, she's violent for moving this person from her with
00:28:17.340 40 people surrounding me, make it make sense. So the whole thing was a railroad and it was just
00:28:23.380 corrupt from the beginning.
00:28:24.360 Mm-hmm. And tell us how you got into that kind of advocacy of going to these pregnancy or not
00:28:34.740 pregnancy centers, abortion clinics, trying to convince women to not abort their babies, trying
00:28:41.340 to just sound the alarm about the violence that is actually going on inside these clinics. I mean,
00:28:49.040 like you said, they, you know, these prosecutors said that they were looking for violence. Well,
00:28:52.980 the real violence is going on inside the clinics, not outside the clinics, but they're not concerned
00:28:57.820 about that. So tell us a little bit about your story. How did you become so passionate about this
00:29:04.200 cause? Well, Governor Cuomo did it. Chris Cuomo, I was already doing ministry, but I was doing like
00:29:12.500 homeless ministry, things like that. But Chris Cuomo decided that he would legalize abortion up to
00:29:18.680 nine months in New York. And when he did that, I was like, first of all, I felt ashamed of myself
00:29:24.840 that I had not prioritized abortion before that because it took for him to legalize it up to nine
00:29:32.860 months for me to realize, oh, snap, this is murder. It been murder, but it hit me. Like, nah, y'all
00:29:40.480 going to really take a nine-month-old baby from out straight out there mama woo and killed him?
00:29:44.520 That's too far. So from that moment on, I'm like, no, I'm going to hit them with everything we have.
00:29:51.280 We're going to preach. We're going to pray in the spirit. We're going to go all out for the kingdom
00:29:55.640 of God because this, what they did was wicked. They lit up the empire state building pink and they
00:30:03.080 celebrated people's all through. Do you remember that? I do. And I had the exact same feeling as
00:30:10.980 you. I would say for lack of a better word, it was that moment, that piece of legislation,
00:30:15.440 that moment when the chamber, after he signed the law, they erupted in cheers, the buildings lit up
00:30:22.440 pink, that I also felt the Holy spirit just pierced me. And I was already pro-life, but like you,
00:30:29.620 I just started sobbing. I was pregnant with my oldest child and it was like the evil of not only what
00:30:37.180 abortion is, but this movement, I mean, it hit me like a ton of bricks. So there's only one spirit.
00:30:42.180 So obviously the spirit was working in the same way among a lot of us Christians in that moment,
00:30:47.740 but keep going. Right. Right. You hit, I mean, you hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what it
00:30:52.760 was for us too. And I was just like, no, we're going to take action. I'm in New York city. I'm at one of
00:30:57.360 the big, I'm near the biggest abortion clinic really in the nation takes up the most abortions
00:31:02.980 and it's Margaret Sanger square abortion clinic. I'm going to come here every morning. I'm going
00:31:09.800 to preach this gospel. I'm going to do what I know. I'm going to operate in the power of the Holy
00:31:13.620 ghost. And I'm going to be obedient to God. I did not care about how many babies were saved.
00:31:18.440 I didn't care about how many women I talked to. All I knew is that I was going to be a witness.
00:31:23.380 Now, the crazy thing is this, after I started going to the abortion clinic, like I think I've,
00:31:28.700 I'm the type of person where I know how to suppress trauma, but then it pops back up out
00:31:35.160 of nowhere. You know what I'm saying? But I'm really good at like mentally suppressing trauma.
00:31:40.400 I forgot about when I have got my first abortion at 15 and I have forgot about how there were
00:31:46.500 protesters out there screaming and yelling and picketing. And I went in and I got my abortion.
00:31:53.080 Um, but when I have remembered that I was like, Oh my God, God, you were always there. You were a
00:32:00.080 witness. Even when I didn't know it, you were witnessing for me. So that's what I'm going to
00:32:05.160 be. I'm going to be a witness for them girls who walk in. I'm going to give them the opportunity to
00:32:10.400 have a second choice. And obviously there's plenty of non-for-profit organizations and plenty of ways
00:32:15.880 God can facilitate choosing a different choice. But I need to be that witness to let them know before
00:32:21.480 you walk in here. This wasn't your only option. And that's what I was period.
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00:33:23.960 And for those who don't know your testimony about your abortions and how you came to Christ,
00:33:29.940 can you take us back? You said you got your first abortion when you were 15.
00:33:33.180 I was 15 when I had my first abortion and I actually became a Christian when I was 22. I was
00:33:42.580 in jail. I was in Rutgers Island waiting on my dad to come and bail me out. And I had met a woman in
00:33:49.800 Rutgers Island, some woman that for her faith ended up in jail. And she prophesied to me and told me that
00:33:58.300 I need to give my life to Christ or I'm headed towards death. And she said the next thing at the prison is
00:34:04.480 death. And when she told me that, I'm like, no, I don't want to die. And I knew that if I did, I would die in my
00:34:10.140 sin. And so I just repented and I gave my life to Christ and I ain't never looked back since. So I find it so
00:34:16.580 interesting that I ended up taking up the same mantle by going to this federal prison. There was a lot of girls that I
00:34:22.860 ministered to and told them that they need to give their life to Christ and they need to, uh, the next
00:34:27.300 thing is death. And also while prison wasn't fun, prison was mercy. A lot of them girls in prison,
00:34:33.820 if they wasn't in prison, they'd be dead, burning in hell. Um, it would be better for them to be in
00:34:38.860 prison than to be in hell. And so I saw that God used me as a mercy to, in that prison, to minister to
00:34:47.740 those girls, to spend time with those girls, to show into those girls and to tell those girls there's a
00:34:52.260 God and he's available. Um, and so that's really what kind of solidified my faith. And then I ended
00:34:59.360 up meeting my best friend at May a year later and she started to mentor me on being a Christian and
00:35:05.160 reading the word and walking the walk of a Christian. And was it your abortion experience
00:35:11.780 that inspired you specifically to fight against this and to, like you said, be a witness?
00:35:18.800 No, I mean, I always knew abortion was wrong. I never was that crazy to be like, yeah, abortion
00:35:26.060 is healthcare. I never was that crazy. I, or in your heart, the word of God is written
00:35:31.280 on your heart. You know, when you're wrong, you, you choose to justify it and you want to
00:35:35.620 make legislation affirm you because your pride. But I had never gotten so powerful in my life
00:35:40.900 that I would sit here and co-sign. Oh yeah, abortion is okay. I knew it was wrong. So when I got
00:35:45.520 saved, it was a no brainer for me to repent about abortions because I knew they were wrong.
00:35:50.980 Um, what had sparked my desire was that I become a Christian. Now I was not, I had to learn to let
00:36:01.340 God's light shine wherever. And it, an abortion clinic wasn't an exception. And then on top of
00:36:06.860 that, the fact that I had already had three myself, I felt this is the perfect opportunity
00:36:10.860 to relate to these women. Cause I've been there. I'm not here to judge. I've been there. I know
00:36:15.940 what it's like, you know? So if anything, it just kind of gave me proper footing to talk to these
00:36:21.800 girls, but no, it wasn't my motivation. My motive, my motivation was purely Christ.
00:36:26.060 Hmm. What does it look like now for you going forward?
00:36:29.540 Man, I don't know. I think, I think sky is the limit right now. I think that God is about to
00:36:40.320 put me in places that I've never been before. I feel like I graduated. I feel like I reached,
00:36:47.380 you know, as Christians, right? We talk about different seasons that we go through. And I know
00:36:52.060 we talk about a Job season, but we don't really talk about an Abraham season and an Isaac season
00:36:57.420 where you're tested for the promises that God has given you, but you're tested. Um, and God is
00:37:07.160 watching to see how you react before he reacts to the promise that he wants to pour in your life.
00:37:13.320 I feel like all of the promises that God has sown into me, they're going to come to pass in abundance
00:37:18.740 for my children and my children's children. And there actually was a generational chain on my family
00:37:26.800 line from my dad's side of prison. You know, a lot of the men in my family have been in and out of
00:37:31.260 prison. I feel like, and I knew that going into, I was breaking that chain. I was breaking it. God was
00:37:37.940 using me to break it for the rest of my bloodline. I know what I'm saying may sound kind of foreign
00:37:42.900 for people, but you just got to read your Bible and you'll get it. Um, so I know glory is next.
00:37:49.700 You know, I've never seen not one person in the Bible go to prison for their faith and for their
00:37:56.040 righteousness and glory, not come from that. Even for Paul glory came from that. So I feel like
00:38:02.840 that's the season. How does it look? I don't know, but I know it's coming.
00:38:06.860 Well, certainly God works all things together for the good of those who love him, who are called
00:38:11.340 according to his purpose and all things, even martyrdom is used for the glory of God. And you said that,
00:38:18.380 you know, glory follows sacrifice. Sometimes that glory is on the other side of eternity,
00:38:23.260 but God is always glorified through the obedience of believers. And we can trust in that for sure.
00:38:31.940 And I just appreciate your faithful witness and your faithfulness, your boldness, your courage,
00:38:37.400 courage is contagious. And you've been an example to all of us through the power of the Holy Spirit
00:38:41.980 and for the glory of God. And I am praising God for your release, for the release of Joan Bell,
00:38:47.480 Herb Garrity, Lauren Handy, so many of the other pro-lifers who put themselves on the line for
00:38:53.460 the sake of the unborn and for the sake of the gospel. So thank you so much, Bevlin. I really
00:38:58.160 appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks.
00:39:05.560 So good. She has such a peaceful demeanor and also a powerful presence. And I'm just so
00:39:13.120 thankful for how the Lord has worked in her life and will continue to. So just pray for her and pray
00:39:20.000 for all of those who have been released from prison. You know, not all of the pro-lifers that
00:39:25.640 were prosecuted and then pardoned are believers. For example, if I remember correctly, Herb Garrity,
00:39:32.100 whom we talked to a couple years ago now, Herb was not a believer. I'm not sure if that is still the
00:39:39.600 case, but pray for all of those who have been released from prison, that they would know the
00:39:44.920 true freedom that is found in Christ. And I am so thankful for the courage that they have,
00:39:51.500 but we want them to know their creator and the God who offers them true liberty from sin and from
00:39:59.680 darkness. And so pray for all of them and just continue to thank God for the providence and the
00:40:06.600 mercy that is being demonstrated to our nation right now through Donald Trump. I know I alluded
00:40:12.380 to this yesterday at the end of the episode, but I just want to say again, how pleasantly surprised
00:40:18.500 I am by the swift action that Donald Trump has taken in the way of pro-life advocacy. We were all
00:40:26.520 worried about that, right? Like based on the things that he said in interviews, we were worried about
00:40:33.840 how he would actually come down when it came to abortion and already he has exceeded expectations.
00:40:43.380 And I'm so grateful for that now tomorrow. And the next day we will see the confirmation hearings of
00:40:50.240 RFK jr. Who has been nominated for the position of the health and human services secretary. And he is
00:40:59.380 pro-choice and the HHS is very involved in federal abortion policy. And so while I obviously support
00:41:09.900 him as a pick, as a superior pick, I should say to the previous health and human services secretary.
00:41:16.960 And while I think he is going to do a lot of good work, we need to be very watchful and very vigilant
00:41:23.280 to ensure that the policies that are being advocated for from that level are on the side of the dignity
00:41:31.760 of unborn children. His confirmation hearings will be very, very interesting to watch. I mean,
00:41:36.920 he's got a lot in his background that you and I as supporters of a lot of the things that he
00:41:42.820 supports, that he advocates for are not down with, like would not agree with. There are going to be
00:41:48.940 Republicans and Democrats who take issue with some of his policy prescriptions and a lot of things in
00:41:55.100 his past, both personally and politically, but also professionally. So it'll be very interesting
00:42:00.960 to watch. Of course, we'll be covering that. But I want to get into some other good news. This is
00:42:07.000 political, but it's also it's also just cultural. It has to do with Target. Remember Target? Now,
00:42:15.280 those of you who have been boycotting Target for the past few years, maybe you have forgotten what
00:42:20.720 Target is, but it is this huge store that white ladies frequent when they want to spend money that
00:42:29.160 they don't actually have. That is what Target is. When you want to go somewhere to buy a bunch of
00:42:34.700 things that you do not need, but you really want, that is when you go to Target. I say that from
00:42:41.840 experience. I used to love Target, would go to Target all the time just as an activity,
00:42:49.560 spending money that did not need to be spent on candles and like random pieces of decor that lasted
00:42:57.800 only six months. And then when I saw a few years ago that they were not only celebrating pride,
00:43:05.460 I think we've come to expect that from a lot of corporations, but that they were actually selling
00:43:10.620 things like chest binding sports bras and packing underwear for what seemed like from their
00:43:17.760 minors when they were putting androgynous child models on their website to model transgender flag
00:43:29.020 t-shirts and skirts. I said, okay, for me, that's too far. And that's not to say that the other
00:43:36.440 corporations that I support because I don't boycott everything that they are perfect. But for me,
00:43:42.420 it was the combination of the time and the money that I was spending at Target and the just brazenly
00:43:49.800 demonic values that were targeting, no pun intended, children. I just couldn't, I couldn't reconcile that.
00:43:57.600 And I couldn't justify continuing to spend time and money there. So I literally have not been there
00:44:02.280 since I want to say 2021. Has it really almost been four years, but maybe not. Maybe it was 2022. I'm
00:44:09.980 having a hard time remembering, but it's been a long time. It's been since the spring of one of those
00:44:15.520 years. And we have seen some indications that maybe they're walking back a lot of their unabashed
00:44:24.780 progressivism. Last year, for example, the pride displays weren't nearly as out there and as prominent.
00:44:32.560 In fact, some of you said that at your local Target, you walked in and you only saw a 4th of July decor
00:44:39.740 and you saw displays thinking veterans and you saw like a few rainbow flag things, but it wasn't nearly
00:44:47.700 as prominent as it had been in years past. And so we were like, okay, maybe they heard us because
00:44:54.100 hey, conservative suburban moms, like we hold all of the buying power at Target. Surely we have some
00:45:02.440 capital. Surely we have some sway. We weren't sure because of course they are trying to please
00:45:09.000 their shareholders at BlackRock and Vanguard. They don't really care as much about their customers.
00:45:17.680 But maybe we have some power. And so it was starting to look this past summer like things
00:45:22.120 were going our way. And now we have even better news. And this news is that Target is abolishing
00:45:29.920 their DEI programs. If you've been living under a rock, that's okay. Welcome to the podcast. You're
00:45:36.840 going to learn a lot. But DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion. And maybe again, if you're just
00:45:43.780 a sweet summer child, you're thinking diversity, equity, and inclusion, awesome. You have friends
00:45:49.480 who look completely differently from each other and all different kinds of backgrounds and you think
00:45:55.220 equity and you think fairness, everyone being treated the same. You think inclusion and you think, great,
00:45:59.720 I don't want anyone to be bullied or excluded because of what they look like or what their
00:46:04.120 socioeconomic class is. And you're thinking, well, DEI sounds wonderful. Why in the world would we want
00:46:09.780 it abolished? But DEI functionally, when you look at the actual programs that are being implemented in
00:46:18.080 many of these corporations, it typically manifests itself in racial quotas that discriminate against
00:46:25.600 primarily white men, but also white women, also Asian men and women, depending on the institution
00:46:31.900 that you're looking at. And also prioritizes the color of someone's skin, their religion,
00:46:40.880 their sexual orientation, their so-called gender identity over merit. And unfortunately, we have
00:46:48.560 seen this even in the medical field, even when it comes to airlines, even when it comes to the
00:46:54.480 military, as we have talked about many, many times. But these corporations were really some of the
00:47:00.180 first entities that introduced these DEI programs that had these racial quotas and this emphasis on
00:47:07.440 things like white privilege and white supremacy and forcing their employees to use so-called preferred
00:47:13.140 pronouns that don't correspond to someone's sex and the pushing of things like transgenderism for
00:47:19.940 children. All of that falls under the umbrella of DEI, whereas conservatives have been saying for a long
00:47:26.620 time, the Trump administration is saying through his executive policy that, hey, we're not going to
00:47:31.960 have DEI, at least in the federal government. We're just not doing that. We're prioritizing merit when
00:47:36.560 it comes to the military. We're prioritizing lethality when it comes to other parts of the
00:47:41.860 government. We are prioritizing competence. No matter what your skin color is, no matter what your
00:47:46.040 background is, we are going to prioritize deservedness. If someone is going to do an excellent job in this
00:47:53.100 role, no matter what they look like, then they can get the job. But we are not going to have these unnecessary
00:47:57.960 quotas that unfortunately lead to the demise of any institution. So last Friday, here's the news. Target
00:48:06.440 announced that it would join rival Walmart and a number of other prominent American brands in scaling back
00:48:11.700 diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. The program is called, there's always euphemisms, belonging in the
00:48:20.160 bullseye. That was the program. So that was the goal of this belonging to the bullseye is driving growth
00:48:29.480 and staying in step with the evolving external landscape, which is a terrible idea. You should
00:48:35.600 have timeless values and your goals should always conform to those timeless values that are rooted in
00:48:42.520 virtue and truth. In 2020, many corporations made investments into so-called racial equity initiatives
00:48:48.540 following the death of George Floyd, the riots in Minneapolis. So in 2020, Target launched its racial
00:48:55.220 equity action and change initiative. It was already slated to end this year. The program implemented
00:49:01.020 anti-racism training for employees, prioritized hearing and promoting Black workers, which again means
00:49:08.440 discriminating against other people because of their lack of melanin, and looked to grow the number of
00:49:14.640 black-owned businesses represented on target shelves. So again, that is a reverse kind of racism, which is
00:49:22.660 exactly what Ibram X. Kendi supported when he argued for in his book, how to be an anti-racist.
00:49:31.760 And so when they say they're specifically promoting black businesses, they are saying even if a white
00:49:37.580 business would qualify, even if an Asian-owned business would qualify, well, they don't make the cut because
00:49:42.760 they aren't owned by someone with a certain amount of melanin in their skin. In 2021, Target pledged to
00:49:48.980 invest $2 billion in black-owned businesses by the end of 2025 as part of the program. Last Friday's
00:49:58.260 memo that Target sent out saying, okay, we're ending all of our DEI programs. Again, that one was already
00:50:03.720 slated to end, but the belonging in the bullseye, that's coming into an end too. The memo said that Target
00:50:10.020 would no longer participate in surveys designed to gauge effectiveness of its actions, including
00:50:15.240 submitting its information to the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index, which evaluates
00:50:24.720 corporate policies on so-called LGBTQ inclusion. That is huge. That is huge. The HRC has had these
00:50:34.080 corporations by the neck saying, if you do not meet our standards of LGBTQ inclusion, then we are going
00:50:44.780 to give you a low score on the human rights scale, this arbitrary and subjective scale that they came
00:50:51.420 up with. And I don't really know what happens after that. Probably they would be punished by their
00:50:59.180 shareholders like BlackRock and Vanguard, who probably look to the scoring of a progressive
00:51:05.680 entity like the Human Rights Coalition campaign to decide how much money they are going to invest or
00:51:16.840 how much of a partnership they are going to have with these corporations. Since 2002, the HRC has been
00:51:25.000 publishing their Equality Index, which serves as a national report card using surveys from hundreds of
00:51:31.040 companies for how well they are supporting the, quote, LGBTQ community. They send representatives to
00:51:38.260 corporations every year telling them what kind of things they have to do to promote LGBTQ causes. HRC will
00:51:44.540 often give a list of recommendations or demands along with the implication that if the recommendations are not
00:51:49.980 followed, that company's corporate equality index score will decrease. Also important to note, the CEI
00:51:57.940 scores were also a lesser known factor in the environmental, social, and corporate governance ESG
00:52:05.420 movement that was pushed by the country's top investment firms, BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street
00:52:09.900 Bank. If you don't know what I'm talking about when I talk about ESG and Vanguard, you've got to go back
00:52:15.360 and listen to all of my episodes with Justin Haskins. I've got to get him back on to just see what he
00:52:20.380 thinks about the whole great reset that these major corporations and the World Economic Forum have been
00:52:27.420 pushing successfully for so long. How are they going to accomplish their corporate oligarchy, their global
00:52:35.180 corporate oligarchy, without the compliance of places like Target? If an entity like Target is saying,
00:52:41.240 I don't really care what the human rights campaign says. I don't really care what my ESG score says.
00:52:45.820 I don't really care if BlackRock and Vanguard are mad at me. How in the world first did Target make
00:52:51.780 that calculation? Because it's very surprising. But how is George Soros and Klaus Schwab, how are they
00:52:58.200 going to accomplish what they want to accomplish, which is a reset of the world order in service to
00:53:03.680 their climate agenda, which they hope will lead to depopulation, which will lead to a world that is much
00:53:09.280 easier to control? We've always said a strong America stands in the way of that. And I would
00:53:16.240 love to get an update from Justin, especially when it comes to that EU law that we talked about last
00:53:20.780 time. Like, how is all of that going to work out now that Trump actually did win? Because we talked
00:53:25.780 to him before the election. Wow. I'm so interested to hear what he thinks about the changes in all of
00:53:32.260 this. So other companies are also shifting away from DEI. We've got Walmart, McDonald's, Ford, Harley-Davidson,
00:53:38.280 and John Deere. They're among well-known consumer brands that reduced or phased out their DEI
00:53:43.340 commitments in recent months. Several of these companies also joined Target in announcing they
00:53:47.760 would not be participating in the HRC's Corporate Equality Index surveys. Like, it is so lame to be a
00:53:55.180 liberal now. Like, how did that happen? I mean, we've been saying it for years. Like, it is so lame to be a
00:54:04.320 liberal. But really, like, now they're seen as, like, the harpies. They're seen as the people who
00:54:11.740 are just, like, the moralizers. Like, you have to use these pronouns. You have to use these words.
00:54:18.380 You have to believe this speech. You have to believe that two plus two equals five, that a man
00:54:22.160 can become a woman, and you're not a good person. And I love, at least it seems like it, I would love
00:54:27.140 to know what's underneath these corporate changes. But on the individual level, on the cultural level,
00:54:31.220 that so many people, including in Gen Z, are like, I really don't care what you think. I really don't
00:54:35.860 care what you think. I really don't. And you have no power over me. And I just want to say thank you
00:54:41.480 to all of you out there who have been courageous, who have spoken the truth in love, and who have
00:54:49.260 been willing to say, not only these policies are lame, I know someone out there is going to be like,
00:54:53.460 oh, that's rude. Okay, does this help? They're evil. Leftist policies are evil. The liberal worldview
00:54:59.000 is actually evil. They're wicked. And they cause death and destruction and chaos. And Satan is the
00:55:06.040 author of those things. I think most liberals are very well-meaning. But the policies that they support
00:55:11.760 are destructive. And because I love my neighbor, I don't support left-wing policies. And so it's
00:55:17.940 actually very good that it is now seen as lame, as powerless, as impotent to have this kind of like
00:55:27.720 leftist worldview. And that corporations are like, I don't really care what y'all say anymore. I'm not
00:55:33.200 saying that these corporations are now virtuous, or that you should go support them. I just think this
00:55:37.800 indicates a shift in the culture, the vibe shift, if you will, that we should be thankful for.
00:55:43.580 But Meta, the parent company for Facebook and Instagram, also announced in early January that
00:55:49.420 it is getting rid of its DEI program that includes hiring, training, and picking vendors. Interesting.
00:55:56.200 Joel Kaplan, Meta's global policy chief, told Fox News Digital that the move will ensure that the
00:56:00.860 company is building teams with the most talented people instead of making hiring decisions based on
00:56:06.380 protected characteristics. Huh. Well, that is just a novel idea. I had no idea that what they should
00:56:14.380 call that something. Is it like, is it, is it meritocracy? I don't know. I've never, hmm. This,
00:56:22.220 you know what, I'm going to have to fire my team because my, my entire team, I have had these quotas,
00:56:28.520 these DEI quotas. I was like, I have to get someone with glasses. Okay. I got Brie. Um,
00:56:35.300 I have to get a Catholic. I got Vince. Um, let's see. I have to, I don't know. I had, I have like a
00:56:43.480 lot of different qualifications and quotas, my DEI quotas, and I met them all. But now that I know
00:56:49.420 that this strange concept of just hiring people that are good at their jobs, that it exists out
00:56:54.900 there because Mark Zuckerberg has introduced it to the world. Now I can just completely rearrange
00:57:00.600 my team. So pack up y'all. Um, on his first day in office, Trump signed an executive order aimed
00:57:08.140 at ending DEI programs across the federal government. And again, that is a very, very good
00:57:14.020 thing. However, um, there are some companies that are resisting this shift. And actually this company
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00:58:38.520 Costco. What the heck, Costco? I'm no longer going to be able to buy my mega-sized Topo Chico's from you.
00:58:47.740 98% of Costco shareholders rejected a proposal from a conservative think tank urging the wholesale
00:58:56.400 club operator to re-evaluate, just re-evaluate, let's just think about this, their DEI inclusion
00:59:02.460 practices. We don't have time to get into what all of their DEI inclusion practices are, but they have
00:59:09.400 them. Apple's board and the CEO of JPMorgan Bank have also expressed a commitment to preserving their
00:59:15.260 company's DEI activities. Well, isn't that interesting? Because Tim Apple was at the
00:59:21.660 inauguration. Do you remember when Trump called Tim Cook Tim Apple? I remember that. And now he will
00:59:27.180 never be known as anything else. So people are boycotting Target on the left now. So we'll see who
00:59:38.500 actually holds more sway. Target is being threatened with boycotts again, but this time from activists who
00:59:43.580 are angry, the retailer is dropping DEI programs. How dare you use merit to hire your employees? How dare you?
00:59:52.540 Here is Al Sharpton, a totally sincere, truthful, genuine, down-to-earth guy saying that people should no longer
01:00:00.460 shop at Target because you know Al Sharpton is always shopping the McGee and me and Magnolia brands there.
01:00:07.700 Here's that one.
01:00:08.660 So that is why we will stand with those that stand with us. Costco's immediately stepped out and said
01:00:18.580 that they will not back off DEI. But today we are calling a buy-in. I have bought 100 people $25
01:00:27.560 gift certificates. We're going shopping at Costco because they've stood with us. People that stand with
01:00:34.580 us. We will stand with them. Okay. So Al Sharpton is the reason why I can't buy my mega Topo Chicos and
01:00:42.100 my mega peanut butter anymore. He's standing there in front of Target bullying or Costco bullying Costco
01:00:48.660 in saying they are not going to back up back off their DEI initiatives. Did you even shop at Costco,
01:00:57.540 Al Sharpton? I for some reason, I just doubt that. Nina Turner, activist and former Ohio state senator,
01:01:03.740 is calling for a Target boycott starting on February 1st. Her post has 2.4 million views and 48,000 likes.
01:01:10.200 So she said this yesterday. Target announced it was cutting their diversity, equity, and inclusion
01:01:14.120 programs, including a program that focused on carrying products from Black and other minority
01:01:18.540 companies. My organization, Strike for All, is calling for a boycott of Target starting February 1st.
01:01:25.860 Target never said that they weren't going to carry products made by Black people anymore. They just said,
01:01:30.660 okay, we're not going to have this program that prioritizes them over other kinds of businesses.
01:01:36.120 We're just going to, I guess, carry the products of the people that they want to work with, no matter
01:01:41.820 what their background is. And look, if you've got a good product and you've got a good company that
01:01:46.320 Target wants to sell or Target wants to platform or Target wants to partner with, then I'm sure
01:01:50.840 they will. So I don't understand boycotting because you want special treatment. However,
01:01:57.840 I totally support your right to boycott. Obviously, it would be very hypocritical if I didn't. So yeah,
01:02:06.500 vote with your dollar. I think that's totally fine. I am not yet going back to Target. I will say that.
01:02:13.220 I am going to wait. I'm going to wait until the month of June. And if they have Happy Noeic
01:02:21.460 Covenant Month t-shirts being sold in Target, then I might consider going back.
01:02:31.660 But if they are still, if they are pushing the trans stuff, then I, I, I'm not, I'm not going to go
01:02:41.640 back. And again, they're, I mean, they're making a very deliberate choice to try to push that upon
01:02:46.540 children. And that's where I'm drawing the line with that. And I encourage you to as well, like
01:02:51.280 for the month of June, just for the month of June, and I'll remind you, don't worry. I know it's only
01:02:55.500 January. For the month of June, I do encourage you to boycott Target if they are still pushing that
01:03:01.320 nonsense. We don't all have to boycott the same. I'm not someone who boycotts everything. I've told
01:03:06.240 you that many times, and I don't expect everyone to boycott the same as me. We have to pick and
01:03:11.600 choose where we vote with our dollar and we still live in the modern world and all of that. And some
01:03:17.300 people do though. Some people completely boycott all of the companies that don't support their
01:03:21.080 values. And I say yes and amen. Yes and amen to that. But I will not judge you if you still shop at
01:03:26.940 Target, but I will call us to solidarity in the month of June if they are still pushing that
01:03:31.180 nonsense. And I promise you, we suburban moms, we have a lot more power and a lot more sway when
01:03:40.220 it comes to Target than Al Sharp did. He's not buying his trench coats at Target. I promise.
01:03:48.860 We've got several other conservative commentators who are celebrating this. I said, hallelujah,
01:03:54.600 praise the Lord. Haven't been to Target in a while, but that might change. So we'll see.
01:04:00.180 Lots of good news. We've got so much more to talk about over the next couple days. So
01:04:04.600 buckle up, everyone. We'll be back tomorrow.