Ep 1130 ｜ Trump Just Pardoned Her. Here’s What Prison Was Really Like ｜ Guest： Bevelyn Williams
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Summary
Beverly Williams was recently released from federal prison thanks to a pardon by Donald Trump after she was prosecuted by the Biden administration for blocking an entrance to an abortion clinic. She has an amazing testimony. You will be so edified by the reminder that God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch, and he is always working through the lives of believers.
Transcript
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Am I finally going back to Target? They are abolishing their DEI programs, but here's what
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that really means. First, however, we are talking to Beverly Williams, who was recently released
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from federal prison thanks to a pardon by Donald Trump after she was prosecuted by the Biden
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administration for blocking an entrance to an abortion clinic. She has an amazing testimony.
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You will be so edified by the reminder that God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off
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without a hitch, and he is always working through the lives of believers. Without further ado,
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Beverly, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. First, can you just tell us how you're
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Oh, man. It's a lot of emotions. I'm registering everything in waves right now. It's like sometimes
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I just sit in my house and I just be like, oh, snap. I'm really home. I'm not in prison anymore.
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I'm super joyful, so happy, so at peace, so thankful, but yet I'm exhausted. I feel like I can't get
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enough sleep because I didn't realize how much I was in such spiritual warfare like being in prison.
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Like prison is—a lot goes on in prison spiritually, so I'm exhausted in a sense, and I'm just like—I'm
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still kind of traumatized by the experience in itself, and so it's just like a jumble of emotions.
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Mm-hmm. Can you tell us more about that, about the spiritual warfare that you saw while you were in
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prison? Well, like when I would go to the abortion clinic, right, and we would go out and protest for
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a couple of hours, it was always a known fact. Like after you leave, anybody that has ever
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protested in front of abortion clinic will agree with me. When you're done, all you're going to need
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is food, a good shower, and sleep. You are like spiritually drained because there's just so much
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going on. And that literally was prison every day, all day. People yelling, screaming, almost getting
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into fights, getting into fights, arguments. Like you can't have a normal conversation with people
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in prison. Like you really have to pull them in. Most conversations would be an argument or a fight
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or, you know, people are high. There's drugs everywhere, you know.
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Girl, there's more drugs in prison than on the street. Okay? People go to prison and get strung
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out, amongst other things. So my bunkie would like get high in my cell, and it was like nothing I could
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do about it because that's her cell too. Stealing. I mean, like you got to be on point about
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everything. You can't leave your locker open because you might go and come back and it's gone.
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And if one person reports it to the lieutenant, they're going to shake the whole unit down. And
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then if you have contraband, it gets taken away. And so let me tell you, I had contraband. Girl,
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they give you these mattresses that's this thick. Okay? Girl, I had three. I was not about to do that.
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Okay? That's where I drew the line. When my spine started talking back to me when I woke up in the
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morning, I was like, okay, no. I'm going to have to make it happen. So, I mean, prison is like,
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it's nothing you can ever just sit and get comfortable with. It's concrete everywhere.
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It's stainless steel beds, stainless steel toilet. You have to use the bathroom in front of somebody.
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You have no privacy. You know, we have separate places for showers, but it's like,
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it's only a curtain separating you from the entire unit. So, you just, you can be as comfortable as
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you can be, but I just could never be comfortable enough to be rested.
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Were you able to connect to any of your fellow inmates? Like, did they want to talk to you? Did
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they want to know why you were there? Were there any relationships you were able to make? Or was it
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really just, as you said, going at it kind of all the time conflict?
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Right. So, I will say that God gave me the ability to be a light in prison. I was seen as a
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mother figure to a lot of the women there. Somebody that they can vent to, somebody that they can talk
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to when they needed help. I tried to help them, but unfortunately, I was hindered a lot because of
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drug addiction. Like, I'm not going to give you support for you to go and blow it on drugs. You
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know what I mean? So, I had to give more moral support and more verbal support than anything else.
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inmate.com works faster than Twitter. When word get out in prison, word gets out. People talk. And so,
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what you're known for, your actions in prison. If you're a liar in prison, people are going to know
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you're a liar. If you're a swindler, they're going to know you're a swindler. If you're a homosexual,
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oh, they're going to know. Like, whatever you do, not only are people going to know it, but you're
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going to be labeled as what you are. So, actions mean everything in prison. So, for me, you know,
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word will get out about my actions because I was known as the girl that pays her bills. Like,
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let me tell you how a bill is created. So, in prison, commissary is cash. What a
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food, cookies, cakes, all that stuff that you get at commissary, that's as good as
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cash in prison because that's what you survive on, right? So, if, like, a girl works in the
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kitchen and it's burger day and I want her to bring me back an extra burger because,
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you know, the portions are small, she might be like, all right, cool, that's going to be
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$5 worth of commissary. So, she'll write me a bill of the things she wants on commissary and I
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would then purchase them and give them to her. And that was my way of paying her back for what she did
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for me. So, it's a lot of bills. Like, commissary day will be on, for me, was Wednesdays and
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Tuesdays. By that day, people are collecting up bills and I was known for paying my bills.
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I was known for being a woman of my word. If I said I was going to buy your book,
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which, buying a book means, like, I get $90 a week to spend on my name on commissary. If I needed
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more than $90, I would put another $90 on someone else's books, have my husband put it on,
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and then I would spend $70 worth of commissary and then that person would spend $20. And usually,
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I would get people that don't have family support, that don't have people from the outside to help
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them, you know? So, I became known for my actions as an honorable woman, a stand-up woman. They didn't
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really want to hear me preach. They wanted to see my walk. And my walk made them more comfortable to
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come and talk to me about the Lord. And, you know, they were here while I was there. So, then
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they would, like, inquire me and see how I was moving. And then they'd be like, let me go talk
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to her. Like, oh, are you really here because you were preaching? Like, you were Christian?
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And they'd be like, oh, man, I need to talk to you. Like, and they would tell me, like, I'm going
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through this, da-da-da-da-da-da. Can you pray for me? And that's how that open door came about.
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My bunkie that was smoking at the time, she stopped and she did give her life to Christ.
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That's one person, for sure, who lived with me because I would just minister to her all
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the time. We would be on lockdown. And I would just, you know, listen. I listened a lot.
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So, by me being a listening ear to these women, I was able to be a woman of counsel. You know,
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when she would get upset about something and she would come in a room and she's ready to
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fight or beat the girl up because she's mad at her. I'd be like, listen, you can't just put
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your hands on everybody. You have to have a conversation. Go and talk to them. She was like,
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well, I was going to do it. She asked me to do her toenails. Now I'm not doing them. I said,
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no, now you are going to do them because you're a Christian and we're supposed to bless our enemy.
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So, now you're going to do them. You're going to do the best toenails she's ever had in her life.
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Right? So, I would teach her, like, principles like that and she would listen.
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And so, the ministry was, it was thick in prison. It was a lot of ministry.
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Gosh, what Satan means for evil, God always uses for good in the life of the believer.
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Can you tell me about what your prayers were like while you were there? Because even while
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God was redeeming that time that you spent there, I am sure you spent many, many hours just wanting
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to be home, to be with your baby, to be with your husband. So, what were you praying when you were
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laying at night on your three mattresses? Oh, man. I, oh, man. A lot of nights, I would just pray
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for peace. Like, the first three weeks, I would wake up in shock. Like, my heart would be beating
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out of my chest. I would just be like, it would hit me like, oh, my God, like, you're really in
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federal prison. It's so humbling. Like, you're, you're stripped and you're placed at the lowest.
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It's, I mean, after prison, what is there? Death. Like, those are only two lows you can go to on
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this earth. So, a lot of waking up in shock and asking God for peace. I never, in my mind, thought
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that he would leave me nor forsake me. I trusted him and I knew, I know God enough to know he's a
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good God and he keeps his promises. So, that wasn't the issue. Yeah. It was just the hurt,
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the anguish, the, the loneliness, missing my daughter. I was praying for, like, God to protect
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her from my absence. Yeah. That she wouldn't be so grievous, you know, grievous about it. So,
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a lot of peace, a lot of protection, a lot of prayers of shalom. And I knew it was an assignment.
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So, I said, Lord, I want to be able to not focus on my own personal issues and get to the assignment
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with these girls in here because these girls in here are lost. Yeah. And I mean, when I say the
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harvest is plenty, but the workers are few, you had Christians even on the compound that were,
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like, working there, but they weren't strong Christians. They were very judgmental to the
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girls. They were very condemning of the girls and telling them, oh, you know, you're a sinner,
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you're a sinner. And my concept was like, no, listen, yeah, we were all born in sin. That's why we
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have to be born again. But we don't have to be stuck in sin. Jesus didn't die for us to keep
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crucifying him with constant sinning. Like, we were birthed in the flesh, but now we have to be
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birthed of the spirit. And so, a lot of, like, the way I would teach and the way I would talk to
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these girls, it was literally the same things they would say about Jesus. They was like, who? Like,
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I've never heard anybody talk like that before. Many of them would be like, I never really met a
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Christian before. Like, you're so, you're not like, I wasn't stuck up or hard to talk to or so
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holy art thou. Like, they would come and talk to me. And I mean, they're dropping F-bones in every
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sentence. And I still was, like, able to sit and listen to them and be like, oh, okay. All right.
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I understand. All right. And my mom did this to me. My mom did that. You know, my, my bunkie,
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she was a prostitution. She was 13 years old. 13. And so, for me, I had to operate with complete
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compassion and patience. I couldn't be caught up on what's going on at home. So, those prayers
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were prayers of peace, prayers of shalom, and also praying for the people in the prison.
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And your daughter is how old? She's, is she two or three? Two. My goodness. And you were sentenced
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to three and a half years. So, you were thinking that by the time you got out of prison, gosh, so much,
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I've got, you know, three little girls myself all around that age. So, life goes by so fast. You
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were thinking you're not going to be able to be with her, hug her again until she's a kindergartner,
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going from a baby to a kindergartner. I'm sure that was heartbreaking to process.
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I never processed it. I wouldn't allow myself to. I would never allow myself to agree or even touch and
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agree with the sentence that they gave me. And I would never allow myself to just be like, yeah,
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okay, this is it. I'm not going to be able to spend time with my daughter until she's five.
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No. I wasn't accepting that. No. I knew that I was going home. I knew that God was going to deliver
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me from the situation. I didn't know when. God forbid I had did my full time in prison. I would
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have still trusted that God had a better plan or had saw something better through it. Are they
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nice that I cried to God and was like upset with him? Absolutely. You know, Paul says in his book,
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he says, um, I think it's in Romans. He says, or Corinthians. He says, sometimes I feel like,
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you know, apostles, we just laid on display for everybody to look at and mock and make fun of.
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And that's how I felt a lot of time in prison. I felt like, dang, man, like, I feel like I'm just
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laid on display to be made fun of, to be mocked. Like I was mocked all the way up until the day I walked in
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that cell. Um, I was, uh, my life just laid on display to just be here. Here's the example of
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what happens when you serve God, like taunting mockery. And I just felt like, no, God, this can't
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be it. This can't be the, the, the finisher. I just knew that this couldn't be the end of the story.
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Cause you know, God does not like to be mocked, you know, when he says, touch not my anointed.
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So I'm like, there has to, something has to come from this. So no, I never accepted that I would
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And tell me what the moment was like when you heard that you had been pardoned. Did you get a phone
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call? What happened? So I actually watched this happen, um, in the TV room. So, okay. Usually
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when you have people that have been in, I was locked up with people that got like 15 years, 30 years, 20
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years, 50 years, like people who doing bids. So it's called being institutionalized. When you get in
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prison that long, you start to kind of claim things as your own. Like this table is my table. That TV is
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my TV. So it, um, and so like you kind of start to personalize things in the prison because you're
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there for a long time. Um, and so the TV room was this girl's name. It's a nickname Flaka. She was
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my neighbor. It was her room. Um, and so I woke up, I think they pop our locks. We locked down at 9 30
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at night. They pop our locks at six. So when I heard them pop the lock, I just was like, no, let me go
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run and put my teeth, my, my chair in the TV room. If you put your chair in, wherever you put your chair,
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it's yours. So I put my chair in the TV room by the TV I wanted to use. And I was like, listen,
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I don't care how much Flaka want to watch that show today. It's quiet. I'm watching the news. Okay.
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Then I went, got back in bed, went to sleep, got up again. It was a very peaceful day. It was a
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weekday. It was a Thursday. Usually on weekdays, you got to be up by 6am dressed in room, spotless bed
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made by 7 30 in the morning every day where you can get in trouble. So it was so crazy because on
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this particular Thursday, people were sleeping in, it was very quiet. It was very still. It felt like
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a weekend, you know what I mean? And so I'm like, dang, like I get up and I'm about to go hop in the
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shower and I'm contemplating. Do I want to put on my uniform or do I want to wear my grades, which you
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can only really wear at the end of the day and on the weekends? And I just felt like this whisper,
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like you're going home today. And the thing is, it was so hard for me to receive the whisper
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because I had experienced every prayer being answered with a no. So I had gotten used to like
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not even getting my hopes up about anything because it seemed like I was getting like crash
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and burn. I mean, almost, I'm going to tell you on the 20th. So I was locked up with two
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J6ers and one of them stayed in my unit, honey. It was Audrey. Me and her were very close. You
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know, us pro-lifers and J6ers, we stuck together in prison because we were like the only few people
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that felt like we came from some type of similar cloth. You know what I mean? It's hard to like,
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it was hard to like vibe with somebody when you know, like you're there because you're really
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innocent and they're there because they're guilty. Even if they've had a change of heart,
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it's like, it's different. So I was expecting when the J6ers went home that the pro-lifers would
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go home too. So when I woke up that morning on the 21st and Audrey was gone and I wasn't there,
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I was devastated. I was devastated. So this is here again, another prayer I'm thinking is not
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being answered or answered with the no. I didn't leave on the 20th like her. I'm stuck here in this
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prison. So now I'm like, oh my God, am I really stuck here? Am I really left here?
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And so now this is why the 23rd was so important for me to get up and hear that whisper. And I just
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kind of dusted off. I didn't say no to it, but I didn't really be like, okay, yeah, I'm going home
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day. I didn't do that. So then I took a shower, put on my grades, went into the TV room, cut on the
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news. And I'm just like, you know what? I'm going to chill in here and I'm going to just watch the
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news. I don't care. I'm just going to watch the news. And it was very hard for me on the 21st and the
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22nd to watch the news because of what, because the J6s had left and I was still there. So it was
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really hard for me. But anyway, so I'm watching the news and all I'm seeing is like World Economic
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Forum going on, him addressing them. And then I'm watching some things about ICE in Boston
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and how he's kind of clearing it out, clearing out, you know, the illegal immigrants and stuff
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like that. And so then I take a break. I call my husband and my husband's like, babe, you're
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buzzing on Twitter. I'm like, really? What's going on? He's like, well, Charlie Kerr just retweeted,
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put your name in it. It's saying that pardons are coming out for y'all soon. They don't know how soon,
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but they were hoping it would be at least Friday. So he was expecting to come pick me up that morning,
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thinking that Trump would pardon me Friday. And then I would get out that day.
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Again, so we're like hoping like, man, maybe, maybe I could get out on Thursday, you know,
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that would be even better today, but whatever. So I get off the phone with him and I go sit back
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down and watch the news. All I see on the screen is breaking news, Trump signing executive orders.
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So I'm like, all right, let me watch again. I'm not thinking that he's going to sign my release.
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I see him sign two executive orders about some two things that I forgot now because, you know,
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what happened. And the next thing I know, I hear, okay, then we're going to sign this executive
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order to pardon the pro-lifers who've been unjustly charged. And he said, how many of them?
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And the guy said 23. And he said, yeah, shouldn't have never happened. And as I heard,
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shouldn't have never happened. I'm like, wait, what? Oh, I'm like freaking out. I'm like, whoa.
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Oh my God. Wait, he's about to sign it right now. Girl. He grabbed that pen and I heard.
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I was screaming. Girl, I ran through the whole pod. I'm speaking in tongues. I'm praising. I'm going,
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thank you, Jesus. I'm going bananas. And believe it or not, the inmates didn't get jealous. They
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started applauding me. They started caring. And I was just like, oh my God, I'm going home. I called
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my husband. I said, babe, come get me. Come get me. Excuse me. That's okay. I'm kind of coming up
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from a cold. I was like, babe, come get me now. Come pack the car up. Come get me now. I should be
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out in a couple of hours and I'm home. Okay. We played this yesterday, but in case people missed it,
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I want to play the video of you reuniting with your daughter and with your husband. Here's
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thought, too. Look, look, look. Look at mama. Look at mama. Look at mama. Look at us.
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Come on. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. My go. Oh, Bevlin,
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and that just makes me cry. The joy there is just so real. You're exuberant. I mean,
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I can't even imagine what you were feeling in that moment.
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Oh, my God. First of all, before, they didn't record this part, but as I was walking out the
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door of the prison, my daughter sees me and she starts kicking her feet. Like she's trying to jump
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out of my husband's arms to see me. She missed me so much. Like we never been apart. The longest
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we'd have ever been apart was maybe five days when Ricky took me to Vegas. But other than that,
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I'm a stay-at-home mom. I'm always with my child. You know what I'm saying? A couple of hours,
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that's what I get to take a nap. And then it's back on mom duty. I mean, so, oh, my God,
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just to see her so happy, to see me like, and so ecstatic and laughing and smiling and giggling
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and singing. And she has not nonstop since I've been home. She is so joyful. Even my husband's like,
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babe, she's so joyful. Like, I don't think I've ever seen her this happy before. Mind you,
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I have a happy baby, but it's just like another level. And so for me, I just, man,
00:23:06.140
I couldn't get out that door fast enough. I just enjoy getting in a car and just hearing an engine
00:23:17.120
run and just watching like the lines on the road go by. Like, it's like these small things that you
00:23:23.780
probably take for granted. They become everything when you don't have them anymore. And you're stuck
00:23:29.200
in a cell and in the same compound for days on end. It was amazing, girl. It was amazing.
00:23:37.740
My goodness. Praise God. Can you take us back to the day of the incident that you were prosecuted for?
00:23:48.920
You were, they say that you were obstructing the entrance to a clinic. What was really going on
00:23:54.880
that day that got you in trouble with the Biden administration? Right. So what they don't like
00:24:01.160
to talk about was, and this is, you got to understand when you go to trial, the judge has
00:24:06.280
the power to allow certain evidence to be administered or not. She also, or he also has the
00:24:13.620
power to decide which arguments can be presented to the jury and which can't. So if you have a corrupt
00:24:20.960
judge, your whole trial, even with enough evidence to be exonerated can cause you to be convicted
00:24:28.280
because the judge can control the narrative. And that's something that people need to understand.
00:24:34.540
So I was, it was a Jesus matters rally that I had did. There were police present at this rally.
00:24:43.500
There's a video that was posted on Facebook and Twitter of officers saying that we have been going to
00:24:50.240
that clinic for months and have never blocked the door. The judge will not allow that to be presented
00:24:56.220
to the jury. Okay. Um, the woman who complained that I slammed her hand in the door, officers were
00:25:04.480
present. I didn't get arrested. I didn't get a ticket. I didn't get a citation. I walked away two years
00:25:12.640
later after Roe versus Wade, uh, was overturned. Next thing I know I'm indicted. And they're saying
00:25:19.380
that I caused a hand injury to this woman who did not go to a doctor or urgent care until five days
00:25:28.060
later. Okay. So, so much could have happened in those five days that bruised arm could have came from
00:25:37.920
so much more. And technically on the stand, she lied about which hand was messed up in the picture.
00:25:44.660
It shows the left hand, but then on the stand, she claimed it was her right hand.
00:25:49.360
And unfortunately I had a court appointed judge, um, lawyer who did not hammer those questions.
00:25:55.160
We spoke to him when we would take breaks and we would say, Hey, you need to ask questions like this.
00:25:59.600
You're not asking these type of questions. And he would just, Oh yeah, I got it. I got it.
00:26:02.700
He was a DEI respectfully. He was, um, and he just wouldn't listen. And it was as if
00:26:10.640
he was acting like he was for me, but he was kind of serving me up on a platter. And so, uh,
00:26:18.000
the whole system was set up for me to fail. What they claimed happened and what actually happened
00:26:22.560
is two different stories. And, um, to say that I went there with the intent of crushing that woman's
00:26:28.560
hand in the door is an absolute lie. The woman opened, I was standing on a public sidewalk,
00:26:33.660
New York city's public sidewalk that my taxpayer money paid for. The woman opened the door and hit
00:26:39.200
me in the back. I then leaned back on the door right now. Did I take my time getting off the door
00:26:45.880
because she had kind of whacked me with the door? Yeah, I did. But to say that I went there and I just
00:26:50.640
put her hand in the door and crushed it with my back. It's a blatant lie. And I should have been
00:26:55.740
found that guilty because intent alone, even if the hand injury actually happened,
00:27:01.960
intent, you're supposed to be convicted on intent. The question was, did I intend to go there for
00:27:08.660
that? No, that was a happenstance. Okay. Um, and so there was just, again, so much that my lawyer
00:27:15.580
didn't explain so much that the judge hindered from happening. She did not even allow us to bring
00:27:21.160
up the argument of freedom of speech, which I basically happened to me. I was violated from
00:27:26.660
my freedom of speech. They will manipulate the words that I said when I say this is war and the,
00:27:32.760
we're going to terrorize this place. Even though in on video, you could see, I meant
00:27:37.760
protesters coming, preaching against abortion, not violence. They never shown on video. There will
00:27:46.520
not be a video of me getting violent. I think they have one video of me, like kind of moving someone
00:27:52.880
out my way. But in the video, I got 40 people around me. And I'm, I think I had one protester
00:27:59.220
kind of like feeling alive by butt. And so I had pushed them, pushed the protester back. So it's
00:28:04.560
like, how do you present this type of evidence where there's 40 people around me, pro-life protesters
00:28:12.060
and pro-choice protesters and say, oh, she's violent for moving this person from her with
00:28:17.340
40 people surrounding me, make it make sense. So the whole thing was a railroad and it was just
00:28:24.360
Mm-hmm. And tell us how you got into that kind of advocacy of going to these pregnancy or not
00:28:34.740
pregnancy centers, abortion clinics, trying to convince women to not abort their babies, trying
00:28:41.340
to just sound the alarm about the violence that is actually going on inside these clinics. I mean,
00:28:49.040
like you said, they, you know, these prosecutors said that they were looking for violence. Well,
00:28:52.980
the real violence is going on inside the clinics, not outside the clinics, but they're not concerned
00:28:57.820
about that. So tell us a little bit about your story. How did you become so passionate about this
00:29:04.200
cause? Well, Governor Cuomo did it. Chris Cuomo, I was already doing ministry, but I was doing like
00:29:12.500
homeless ministry, things like that. But Chris Cuomo decided that he would legalize abortion up to
00:29:18.680
nine months in New York. And when he did that, I was like, first of all, I felt ashamed of myself
00:29:24.840
that I had not prioritized abortion before that because it took for him to legalize it up to nine
00:29:32.860
months for me to realize, oh, snap, this is murder. It been murder, but it hit me. Like, nah, y'all
00:29:40.480
going to really take a nine-month-old baby from out straight out there mama woo and killed him?
00:29:44.520
That's too far. So from that moment on, I'm like, no, I'm going to hit them with everything we have.
00:29:51.280
We're going to preach. We're going to pray in the spirit. We're going to go all out for the kingdom
00:29:55.640
of God because this, what they did was wicked. They lit up the empire state building pink and they
00:30:03.080
celebrated people's all through. Do you remember that? I do. And I had the exact same feeling as
00:30:10.980
you. I would say for lack of a better word, it was that moment, that piece of legislation,
00:30:15.440
that moment when the chamber, after he signed the law, they erupted in cheers, the buildings lit up
00:30:22.440
pink, that I also felt the Holy spirit just pierced me. And I was already pro-life, but like you,
00:30:29.620
I just started sobbing. I was pregnant with my oldest child and it was like the evil of not only what
00:30:37.180
abortion is, but this movement, I mean, it hit me like a ton of bricks. So there's only one spirit.
00:30:42.180
So obviously the spirit was working in the same way among a lot of us Christians in that moment,
00:30:47.740
but keep going. Right. Right. You hit, I mean, you hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what it
00:30:52.760
was for us too. And I was just like, no, we're going to take action. I'm in New York city. I'm at one of
00:30:57.360
the big, I'm near the biggest abortion clinic really in the nation takes up the most abortions
00:31:02.980
and it's Margaret Sanger square abortion clinic. I'm going to come here every morning. I'm going
00:31:09.800
to preach this gospel. I'm going to do what I know. I'm going to operate in the power of the Holy
00:31:13.620
ghost. And I'm going to be obedient to God. I did not care about how many babies were saved.
00:31:18.440
I didn't care about how many women I talked to. All I knew is that I was going to be a witness.
00:31:23.380
Now, the crazy thing is this, after I started going to the abortion clinic, like I think I've,
00:31:28.700
I'm the type of person where I know how to suppress trauma, but then it pops back up out
00:31:35.160
of nowhere. You know what I'm saying? But I'm really good at like mentally suppressing trauma.
00:31:40.400
I forgot about when I have got my first abortion at 15 and I have forgot about how there were
00:31:46.500
protesters out there screaming and yelling and picketing. And I went in and I got my abortion.
00:31:53.080
Um, but when I have remembered that I was like, Oh my God, God, you were always there. You were a
00:32:00.080
witness. Even when I didn't know it, you were witnessing for me. So that's what I'm going to
00:32:05.160
be. I'm going to be a witness for them girls who walk in. I'm going to give them the opportunity to
00:32:10.400
have a second choice. And obviously there's plenty of non-for-profit organizations and plenty of ways
00:32:15.880
God can facilitate choosing a different choice. But I need to be that witness to let them know before
00:32:21.480
you walk in here. This wasn't your only option. And that's what I was period.
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And for those who don't know your testimony about your abortions and how you came to Christ,
00:33:29.940
can you take us back? You said you got your first abortion when you were 15.
00:33:33.180
I was 15 when I had my first abortion and I actually became a Christian when I was 22. I was
00:33:42.580
in jail. I was in Rutgers Island waiting on my dad to come and bail me out. And I had met a woman in
00:33:49.800
Rutgers Island, some woman that for her faith ended up in jail. And she prophesied to me and told me that
00:33:58.300
I need to give my life to Christ or I'm headed towards death. And she said the next thing at the prison is
00:34:04.480
death. And when she told me that, I'm like, no, I don't want to die. And I knew that if I did, I would die in my
00:34:10.140
sin. And so I just repented and I gave my life to Christ and I ain't never looked back since. So I find it so
00:34:16.580
interesting that I ended up taking up the same mantle by going to this federal prison. There was a lot of girls that I
00:34:22.860
ministered to and told them that they need to give their life to Christ and they need to, uh, the next
00:34:27.300
thing is death. And also while prison wasn't fun, prison was mercy. A lot of them girls in prison,
00:34:33.820
if they wasn't in prison, they'd be dead, burning in hell. Um, it would be better for them to be in
00:34:38.860
prison than to be in hell. And so I saw that God used me as a mercy to, in that prison, to minister to
00:34:47.740
those girls, to spend time with those girls, to show into those girls and to tell those girls there's a
00:34:52.260
God and he's available. Um, and so that's really what kind of solidified my faith. And then I ended
00:34:59.360
up meeting my best friend at May a year later and she started to mentor me on being a Christian and
00:35:05.160
reading the word and walking the walk of a Christian. And was it your abortion experience
00:35:11.780
that inspired you specifically to fight against this and to, like you said, be a witness?
00:35:18.800
No, I mean, I always knew abortion was wrong. I never was that crazy to be like, yeah, abortion
00:35:26.060
is healthcare. I never was that crazy. I, or in your heart, the word of God is written
00:35:31.280
on your heart. You know, when you're wrong, you, you choose to justify it and you want to
00:35:35.620
make legislation affirm you because your pride. But I had never gotten so powerful in my life
00:35:40.900
that I would sit here and co-sign. Oh yeah, abortion is okay. I knew it was wrong. So when I got
00:35:45.520
saved, it was a no brainer for me to repent about abortions because I knew they were wrong.
00:35:50.980
Um, what had sparked my desire was that I become a Christian. Now I was not, I had to learn to let
00:36:01.340
God's light shine wherever. And it, an abortion clinic wasn't an exception. And then on top of
00:36:06.860
that, the fact that I had already had three myself, I felt this is the perfect opportunity
00:36:10.860
to relate to these women. Cause I've been there. I'm not here to judge. I've been there. I know
00:36:15.940
what it's like, you know? So if anything, it just kind of gave me proper footing to talk to these
00:36:21.800
girls, but no, it wasn't my motivation. My motive, my motivation was purely Christ.
00:36:26.060
Hmm. What does it look like now for you going forward?
00:36:29.540
Man, I don't know. I think, I think sky is the limit right now. I think that God is about to
00:36:40.320
put me in places that I've never been before. I feel like I graduated. I feel like I reached,
00:36:47.380
you know, as Christians, right? We talk about different seasons that we go through. And I know
00:36:52.060
we talk about a Job season, but we don't really talk about an Abraham season and an Isaac season
00:36:57.420
where you're tested for the promises that God has given you, but you're tested. Um, and God is
00:37:07.160
watching to see how you react before he reacts to the promise that he wants to pour in your life.
00:37:13.320
I feel like all of the promises that God has sown into me, they're going to come to pass in abundance
00:37:18.740
for my children and my children's children. And there actually was a generational chain on my family
00:37:26.800
line from my dad's side of prison. You know, a lot of the men in my family have been in and out of
00:37:31.260
prison. I feel like, and I knew that going into, I was breaking that chain. I was breaking it. God was
00:37:37.940
using me to break it for the rest of my bloodline. I know what I'm saying may sound kind of foreign
00:37:42.900
for people, but you just got to read your Bible and you'll get it. Um, so I know glory is next.
00:37:49.700
You know, I've never seen not one person in the Bible go to prison for their faith and for their
00:37:56.040
righteousness and glory, not come from that. Even for Paul glory came from that. So I feel like
00:38:02.840
that's the season. How does it look? I don't know, but I know it's coming.
00:38:06.860
Well, certainly God works all things together for the good of those who love him, who are called
00:38:11.340
according to his purpose and all things, even martyrdom is used for the glory of God. And you said that,
00:38:18.380
you know, glory follows sacrifice. Sometimes that glory is on the other side of eternity,
00:38:23.260
but God is always glorified through the obedience of believers. And we can trust in that for sure.
00:38:31.940
And I just appreciate your faithful witness and your faithfulness, your boldness, your courage,
00:38:37.400
courage is contagious. And you've been an example to all of us through the power of the Holy Spirit
00:38:41.980
and for the glory of God. And I am praising God for your release, for the release of Joan Bell,
00:38:47.480
Herb Garrity, Lauren Handy, so many of the other pro-lifers who put themselves on the line for
00:38:53.460
the sake of the unborn and for the sake of the gospel. So thank you so much, Bevlin. I really
00:39:05.560
So good. She has such a peaceful demeanor and also a powerful presence. And I'm just so
00:39:13.120
thankful for how the Lord has worked in her life and will continue to. So just pray for her and pray
00:39:20.000
for all of those who have been released from prison. You know, not all of the pro-lifers that
00:39:25.640
were prosecuted and then pardoned are believers. For example, if I remember correctly, Herb Garrity,
00:39:32.100
whom we talked to a couple years ago now, Herb was not a believer. I'm not sure if that is still the
00:39:39.600
case, but pray for all of those who have been released from prison, that they would know the
00:39:44.920
true freedom that is found in Christ. And I am so thankful for the courage that they have,
00:39:51.500
but we want them to know their creator and the God who offers them true liberty from sin and from
00:39:59.680
darkness. And so pray for all of them and just continue to thank God for the providence and the
00:40:06.600
mercy that is being demonstrated to our nation right now through Donald Trump. I know I alluded
00:40:12.380
to this yesterday at the end of the episode, but I just want to say again, how pleasantly surprised
00:40:18.500
I am by the swift action that Donald Trump has taken in the way of pro-life advocacy. We were all
00:40:26.520
worried about that, right? Like based on the things that he said in interviews, we were worried about
00:40:33.840
how he would actually come down when it came to abortion and already he has exceeded expectations.
00:40:43.380
And I'm so grateful for that now tomorrow. And the next day we will see the confirmation hearings of
00:40:50.240
RFK jr. Who has been nominated for the position of the health and human services secretary. And he is
00:40:59.380
pro-choice and the HHS is very involved in federal abortion policy. And so while I obviously support
00:41:09.900
him as a pick, as a superior pick, I should say to the previous health and human services secretary.
00:41:16.960
And while I think he is going to do a lot of good work, we need to be very watchful and very vigilant
00:41:23.280
to ensure that the policies that are being advocated for from that level are on the side of the dignity
00:41:31.760
of unborn children. His confirmation hearings will be very, very interesting to watch. I mean,
00:41:36.920
he's got a lot in his background that you and I as supporters of a lot of the things that he
00:41:42.820
supports, that he advocates for are not down with, like would not agree with. There are going to be
00:41:48.940
Republicans and Democrats who take issue with some of his policy prescriptions and a lot of things in
00:41:55.100
his past, both personally and politically, but also professionally. So it'll be very interesting
00:42:00.960
to watch. Of course, we'll be covering that. But I want to get into some other good news. This is
00:42:07.000
political, but it's also it's also just cultural. It has to do with Target. Remember Target? Now,
00:42:15.280
those of you who have been boycotting Target for the past few years, maybe you have forgotten what
00:42:20.720
Target is, but it is this huge store that white ladies frequent when they want to spend money that
00:42:29.160
they don't actually have. That is what Target is. When you want to go somewhere to buy a bunch of
00:42:34.700
things that you do not need, but you really want, that is when you go to Target. I say that from
00:42:41.840
experience. I used to love Target, would go to Target all the time just as an activity,
00:42:49.560
spending money that did not need to be spent on candles and like random pieces of decor that lasted
00:42:57.800
only six months. And then when I saw a few years ago that they were not only celebrating pride,
00:43:05.460
I think we've come to expect that from a lot of corporations, but that they were actually selling
00:43:10.620
things like chest binding sports bras and packing underwear for what seemed like from their
00:43:17.760
minors when they were putting androgynous child models on their website to model transgender flag
00:43:29.020
t-shirts and skirts. I said, okay, for me, that's too far. And that's not to say that the other
00:43:36.440
corporations that I support because I don't boycott everything that they are perfect. But for me,
00:43:42.420
it was the combination of the time and the money that I was spending at Target and the just brazenly
00:43:49.800
demonic values that were targeting, no pun intended, children. I just couldn't, I couldn't reconcile that.
00:43:57.600
And I couldn't justify continuing to spend time and money there. So I literally have not been there
00:44:02.280
since I want to say 2021. Has it really almost been four years, but maybe not. Maybe it was 2022. I'm
00:44:09.980
having a hard time remembering, but it's been a long time. It's been since the spring of one of those
00:44:15.520
years. And we have seen some indications that maybe they're walking back a lot of their unabashed
00:44:24.780
progressivism. Last year, for example, the pride displays weren't nearly as out there and as prominent.
00:44:32.560
In fact, some of you said that at your local Target, you walked in and you only saw a 4th of July decor
00:44:39.740
and you saw displays thinking veterans and you saw like a few rainbow flag things, but it wasn't nearly
00:44:47.700
as prominent as it had been in years past. And so we were like, okay, maybe they heard us because
00:44:54.100
hey, conservative suburban moms, like we hold all of the buying power at Target. Surely we have some
00:45:02.440
capital. Surely we have some sway. We weren't sure because of course they are trying to please
00:45:09.000
their shareholders at BlackRock and Vanguard. They don't really care as much about their customers.
00:45:17.680
But maybe we have some power. And so it was starting to look this past summer like things
00:45:22.120
were going our way. And now we have even better news. And this news is that Target is abolishing
00:45:29.920
their DEI programs. If you've been living under a rock, that's okay. Welcome to the podcast. You're
00:45:36.840
going to learn a lot. But DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion. And maybe again, if you're just
00:45:43.780
a sweet summer child, you're thinking diversity, equity, and inclusion, awesome. You have friends
00:45:49.480
who look completely differently from each other and all different kinds of backgrounds and you think
00:45:55.220
equity and you think fairness, everyone being treated the same. You think inclusion and you think, great,
00:45:59.720
I don't want anyone to be bullied or excluded because of what they look like or what their
00:46:04.120
socioeconomic class is. And you're thinking, well, DEI sounds wonderful. Why in the world would we want
00:46:09.780
it abolished? But DEI functionally, when you look at the actual programs that are being implemented in
00:46:18.080
many of these corporations, it typically manifests itself in racial quotas that discriminate against
00:46:25.600
primarily white men, but also white women, also Asian men and women, depending on the institution
00:46:31.900
that you're looking at. And also prioritizes the color of someone's skin, their religion,
00:46:40.880
their sexual orientation, their so-called gender identity over merit. And unfortunately, we have
00:46:48.560
seen this even in the medical field, even when it comes to airlines, even when it comes to the
00:46:54.480
military, as we have talked about many, many times. But these corporations were really some of the
00:47:00.180
first entities that introduced these DEI programs that had these racial quotas and this emphasis on
00:47:07.440
things like white privilege and white supremacy and forcing their employees to use so-called preferred
00:47:13.140
pronouns that don't correspond to someone's sex and the pushing of things like transgenderism for
00:47:19.940
children. All of that falls under the umbrella of DEI, whereas conservatives have been saying for a long
00:47:26.620
time, the Trump administration is saying through his executive policy that, hey, we're not going to
00:47:31.960
have DEI, at least in the federal government. We're just not doing that. We're prioritizing merit when
00:47:36.560
it comes to the military. We're prioritizing lethality when it comes to other parts of the
00:47:41.860
government. We are prioritizing competence. No matter what your skin color is, no matter what your
00:47:46.040
background is, we are going to prioritize deservedness. If someone is going to do an excellent job in this
00:47:53.100
role, no matter what they look like, then they can get the job. But we are not going to have these unnecessary
00:47:57.960
quotas that unfortunately lead to the demise of any institution. So last Friday, here's the news. Target
00:48:06.440
announced that it would join rival Walmart and a number of other prominent American brands in scaling back
00:48:11.700
diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. The program is called, there's always euphemisms, belonging in the
00:48:20.160
bullseye. That was the program. So that was the goal of this belonging to the bullseye is driving growth
00:48:29.480
and staying in step with the evolving external landscape, which is a terrible idea. You should
00:48:35.600
have timeless values and your goals should always conform to those timeless values that are rooted in
00:48:42.520
virtue and truth. In 2020, many corporations made investments into so-called racial equity initiatives
00:48:48.540
following the death of George Floyd, the riots in Minneapolis. So in 2020, Target launched its racial
00:48:55.220
equity action and change initiative. It was already slated to end this year. The program implemented
00:49:01.020
anti-racism training for employees, prioritized hearing and promoting Black workers, which again means
00:49:08.440
discriminating against other people because of their lack of melanin, and looked to grow the number of
00:49:14.640
black-owned businesses represented on target shelves. So again, that is a reverse kind of racism, which is
00:49:22.660
exactly what Ibram X. Kendi supported when he argued for in his book, how to be an anti-racist.
00:49:31.760
And so when they say they're specifically promoting black businesses, they are saying even if a white
00:49:37.580
business would qualify, even if an Asian-owned business would qualify, well, they don't make the cut because
00:49:42.760
they aren't owned by someone with a certain amount of melanin in their skin. In 2021, Target pledged to
00:49:48.980
invest $2 billion in black-owned businesses by the end of 2025 as part of the program. Last Friday's
00:49:58.260
memo that Target sent out saying, okay, we're ending all of our DEI programs. Again, that one was already
00:50:03.720
slated to end, but the belonging in the bullseye, that's coming into an end too. The memo said that Target
00:50:10.020
would no longer participate in surveys designed to gauge effectiveness of its actions, including
00:50:15.240
submitting its information to the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index, which evaluates
00:50:24.720
corporate policies on so-called LGBTQ inclusion. That is huge. That is huge. The HRC has had these
00:50:34.080
corporations by the neck saying, if you do not meet our standards of LGBTQ inclusion, then we are going
00:50:44.780
to give you a low score on the human rights scale, this arbitrary and subjective scale that they came
00:50:51.420
up with. And I don't really know what happens after that. Probably they would be punished by their
00:50:59.180
shareholders like BlackRock and Vanguard, who probably look to the scoring of a progressive
00:51:05.680
entity like the Human Rights Coalition campaign to decide how much money they are going to invest or
00:51:16.840
how much of a partnership they are going to have with these corporations. Since 2002, the HRC has been
00:51:25.000
publishing their Equality Index, which serves as a national report card using surveys from hundreds of
00:51:31.040
companies for how well they are supporting the, quote, LGBTQ community. They send representatives to
00:51:38.260
corporations every year telling them what kind of things they have to do to promote LGBTQ causes. HRC will
00:51:44.540
often give a list of recommendations or demands along with the implication that if the recommendations are not
00:51:49.980
followed, that company's corporate equality index score will decrease. Also important to note, the CEI
00:51:57.940
scores were also a lesser known factor in the environmental, social, and corporate governance ESG
00:52:05.420
movement that was pushed by the country's top investment firms, BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street
00:52:09.900
Bank. If you don't know what I'm talking about when I talk about ESG and Vanguard, you've got to go back
00:52:15.360
and listen to all of my episodes with Justin Haskins. I've got to get him back on to just see what he
00:52:20.380
thinks about the whole great reset that these major corporations and the World Economic Forum have been
00:52:27.420
pushing successfully for so long. How are they going to accomplish their corporate oligarchy, their global
00:52:35.180
corporate oligarchy, without the compliance of places like Target? If an entity like Target is saying,
00:52:41.240
I don't really care what the human rights campaign says. I don't really care what my ESG score says.
00:52:45.820
I don't really care if BlackRock and Vanguard are mad at me. How in the world first did Target make
00:52:51.780
that calculation? Because it's very surprising. But how is George Soros and Klaus Schwab, how are they
00:52:58.200
going to accomplish what they want to accomplish, which is a reset of the world order in service to
00:53:03.680
their climate agenda, which they hope will lead to depopulation, which will lead to a world that is much
00:53:09.280
easier to control? We've always said a strong America stands in the way of that. And I would
00:53:16.240
love to get an update from Justin, especially when it comes to that EU law that we talked about last
00:53:20.780
time. Like, how is all of that going to work out now that Trump actually did win? Because we talked
00:53:25.780
to him before the election. Wow. I'm so interested to hear what he thinks about the changes in all of
00:53:32.260
this. So other companies are also shifting away from DEI. We've got Walmart, McDonald's, Ford, Harley-Davidson,
00:53:38.280
and John Deere. They're among well-known consumer brands that reduced or phased out their DEI
00:53:43.340
commitments in recent months. Several of these companies also joined Target in announcing they
00:53:47.760
would not be participating in the HRC's Corporate Equality Index surveys. Like, it is so lame to be a
00:53:55.180
liberal now. Like, how did that happen? I mean, we've been saying it for years. Like, it is so lame to be a
00:54:04.320
liberal. But really, like, now they're seen as, like, the harpies. They're seen as the people who
00:54:11.740
are just, like, the moralizers. Like, you have to use these pronouns. You have to use these words.
00:54:18.380
You have to believe this speech. You have to believe that two plus two equals five, that a man
00:54:22.160
can become a woman, and you're not a good person. And I love, at least it seems like it, I would love
00:54:27.140
to know what's underneath these corporate changes. But on the individual level, on the cultural level,
00:54:31.220
that so many people, including in Gen Z, are like, I really don't care what you think. I really don't
00:54:35.860
care what you think. I really don't. And you have no power over me. And I just want to say thank you
00:54:41.480
to all of you out there who have been courageous, who have spoken the truth in love, and who have
00:54:49.260
been willing to say, not only these policies are lame, I know someone out there is going to be like,
00:54:53.460
oh, that's rude. Okay, does this help? They're evil. Leftist policies are evil. The liberal worldview
00:54:59.000
is actually evil. They're wicked. And they cause death and destruction and chaos. And Satan is the
00:55:06.040
author of those things. I think most liberals are very well-meaning. But the policies that they support
00:55:11.760
are destructive. And because I love my neighbor, I don't support left-wing policies. And so it's
00:55:17.940
actually very good that it is now seen as lame, as powerless, as impotent to have this kind of like
00:55:27.720
leftist worldview. And that corporations are like, I don't really care what y'all say anymore. I'm not
00:55:33.200
saying that these corporations are now virtuous, or that you should go support them. I just think this
00:55:37.800
indicates a shift in the culture, the vibe shift, if you will, that we should be thankful for.
00:55:43.580
But Meta, the parent company for Facebook and Instagram, also announced in early January that
00:55:49.420
it is getting rid of its DEI program that includes hiring, training, and picking vendors. Interesting.
00:55:56.200
Joel Kaplan, Meta's global policy chief, told Fox News Digital that the move will ensure that the
00:56:00.860
company is building teams with the most talented people instead of making hiring decisions based on
00:56:06.380
protected characteristics. Huh. Well, that is just a novel idea. I had no idea that what they should
00:56:14.380
call that something. Is it like, is it, is it meritocracy? I don't know. I've never, hmm. This,
00:56:22.220
you know what, I'm going to have to fire my team because my, my entire team, I have had these quotas,
00:56:28.520
these DEI quotas. I was like, I have to get someone with glasses. Okay. I got Brie. Um,
00:56:35.300
I have to get a Catholic. I got Vince. Um, let's see. I have to, I don't know. I had, I have like a
00:56:43.480
lot of different qualifications and quotas, my DEI quotas, and I met them all. But now that I know
00:56:49.420
that this strange concept of just hiring people that are good at their jobs, that it exists out
00:56:54.900
there because Mark Zuckerberg has introduced it to the world. Now I can just completely rearrange
00:57:00.600
my team. So pack up y'all. Um, on his first day in office, Trump signed an executive order aimed
00:57:08.140
at ending DEI programs across the federal government. And again, that is a very, very good
00:57:14.020
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Costco. What the heck, Costco? I'm no longer going to be able to buy my mega-sized Topo Chico's from you.
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98% of Costco shareholders rejected a proposal from a conservative think tank urging the wholesale
00:58:56.400
club operator to re-evaluate, just re-evaluate, let's just think about this, their DEI inclusion
00:59:02.460
practices. We don't have time to get into what all of their DEI inclusion practices are, but they have
00:59:09.400
them. Apple's board and the CEO of JPMorgan Bank have also expressed a commitment to preserving their
00:59:15.260
company's DEI activities. Well, isn't that interesting? Because Tim Apple was at the
00:59:21.660
inauguration. Do you remember when Trump called Tim Cook Tim Apple? I remember that. And now he will
00:59:27.180
never be known as anything else. So people are boycotting Target on the left now. So we'll see who
00:59:38.500
actually holds more sway. Target is being threatened with boycotts again, but this time from activists who
00:59:43.580
are angry, the retailer is dropping DEI programs. How dare you use merit to hire your employees? How dare you?
00:59:52.540
Here is Al Sharpton, a totally sincere, truthful, genuine, down-to-earth guy saying that people should no longer
01:00:00.460
shop at Target because you know Al Sharpton is always shopping the McGee and me and Magnolia brands there.
01:00:08.660
So that is why we will stand with those that stand with us. Costco's immediately stepped out and said
01:00:18.580
that they will not back off DEI. But today we are calling a buy-in. I have bought 100 people $25
01:00:27.560
gift certificates. We're going shopping at Costco because they've stood with us. People that stand with
01:00:34.580
us. We will stand with them. Okay. So Al Sharpton is the reason why I can't buy my mega Topo Chicos and
01:00:42.100
my mega peanut butter anymore. He's standing there in front of Target bullying or Costco bullying Costco
01:00:48.660
in saying they are not going to back up back off their DEI initiatives. Did you even shop at Costco,
01:00:57.540
Al Sharpton? I for some reason, I just doubt that. Nina Turner, activist and former Ohio state senator,
01:01:03.740
is calling for a Target boycott starting on February 1st. Her post has 2.4 million views and 48,000 likes.
01:01:10.200
So she said this yesterday. Target announced it was cutting their diversity, equity, and inclusion
01:01:14.120
programs, including a program that focused on carrying products from Black and other minority
01:01:18.540
companies. My organization, Strike for All, is calling for a boycott of Target starting February 1st.
01:01:25.860
Target never said that they weren't going to carry products made by Black people anymore. They just said,
01:01:30.660
okay, we're not going to have this program that prioritizes them over other kinds of businesses.
01:01:36.120
We're just going to, I guess, carry the products of the people that they want to work with, no matter
01:01:41.820
what their background is. And look, if you've got a good product and you've got a good company that
01:01:46.320
Target wants to sell or Target wants to platform or Target wants to partner with, then I'm sure
01:01:50.840
they will. So I don't understand boycotting because you want special treatment. However,
01:01:57.840
I totally support your right to boycott. Obviously, it would be very hypocritical if I didn't. So yeah,
01:02:06.500
vote with your dollar. I think that's totally fine. I am not yet going back to Target. I will say that.
01:02:13.220
I am going to wait. I'm going to wait until the month of June. And if they have Happy Noeic
01:02:21.460
Covenant Month t-shirts being sold in Target, then I might consider going back.
01:02:31.660
But if they are still, if they are pushing the trans stuff, then I, I, I'm not, I'm not going to go
01:02:41.640
back. And again, they're, I mean, they're making a very deliberate choice to try to push that upon
01:02:46.540
children. And that's where I'm drawing the line with that. And I encourage you to as well, like
01:02:51.280
for the month of June, just for the month of June, and I'll remind you, don't worry. I know it's only
01:02:55.500
January. For the month of June, I do encourage you to boycott Target if they are still pushing that
01:03:01.320
nonsense. We don't all have to boycott the same. I'm not someone who boycotts everything. I've told
01:03:06.240
you that many times, and I don't expect everyone to boycott the same as me. We have to pick and
01:03:11.600
choose where we vote with our dollar and we still live in the modern world and all of that. And some
01:03:17.300
people do though. Some people completely boycott all of the companies that don't support their
01:03:21.080
values. And I say yes and amen. Yes and amen to that. But I will not judge you if you still shop at
01:03:26.940
Target, but I will call us to solidarity in the month of June if they are still pushing that
01:03:31.180
nonsense. And I promise you, we suburban moms, we have a lot more power and a lot more sway when
01:03:40.220
it comes to Target than Al Sharp did. He's not buying his trench coats at Target. I promise.
01:03:48.860
We've got several other conservative commentators who are celebrating this. I said, hallelujah,
01:03:54.600
praise the Lord. Haven't been to Target in a while, but that might change. So we'll see.
01:04:00.180
Lots of good news. We've got so much more to talk about over the next couple days. So