Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1132 ｜ 'Veggie Tales' vs. JD Vance： Is 'America First' Biblical？

00:00:00.480 We've got an exciting announcement about Share the Arrows 2025 at the very end of this episode,

00:00:06.560 but first, we've got so much to discuss. We will be talking about the crash that occurred

00:00:12.180 in D.C. last night. We will also be talking about a debate on Christian doctrine that was sparked

00:00:19.600 by comments by Vice President J.D. Vance. We will also be drawing some life lessons from

00:00:25.460 Bachelor contestant Rachel Kirkconnell's public breakup and debating this entire crazy chaotic

00:00:34.280 discussion on X over whether new young moms are entitled when it comes to baby showers. We've

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00:00:55.460 Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.

00:01:04.780 We've got a very exciting announcement that I will tell you at the end of this episode,

00:01:10.240 but first, we've got to get to this terrifying and heartbreaking story of the crash that occurred

00:01:15.720 last night at DCA Airport. That is one of the two DC airports, also known as Reagan International.

00:01:23.040 I just flew in and out of there last week. It is a very busy airport, as you can imagine, especially

00:01:29.320 right now. And unfortunately, an American Airlines jet that was flying in from Wichita, Kansas, crashed

00:01:36.480 with a Black Hawk military helicopter. And we are still learning how exactly that happened. We'll give

00:01:43.460 you as much information as we can. But most of all, gosh, I am just praying for the families,

00:01:49.820 for the friends, for the loved ones of everyone who died in these aircrafts. As far as we understand

00:01:56.760 right now, there were no survivors. There were literally passengers that they found underneath

00:02:05.240 the icy surface of the Potomac still strapped in to their seats. And they were so close to the ground,

00:02:14.040 they were about to land. They had probably already texted their loved ones waiting there to pick

00:02:19.300 them up at the airport that they were about to land. We have some footage of the crash. It's not

00:02:26.040 graphic. However, it is disturbing just understanding the fear, the terror that was felt by all of these

00:02:33.760 individuals, probably if they saw this coming just moments before their demise. Here's salt one.

00:02:39.960 I think people were just hoping against hope that there were survivors. But just watching it, it

00:02:51.040 doesn't look like that is a possibility. So here's what we know right now. 27 bodies from the American

00:02:56.880 Airlines passenger jet and one from the military helicopter have been recovered. Fatalities have

00:03:02.160 been confirmed, though the authorities have not yet released the number of fatalities officially. It's

00:03:10.120 believed that there were 60 passengers on the jet plus the flight crew. So 64 people in total. The American

00:03:18.440 Airlines plane was traveling, as I said, from Wichita to D.C. It was also carrying members of the U.S. figure

00:03:26.220 skating community along with two Russian figure skaters. A U.S. Army spokesperson also confirmed that

00:03:32.000 the helicopter had flown out of Fort Belvoir, an army base in northern Virginia, was not carrying what

00:03:38.380 they call VIPs. And that just means like high ranking military personnel. That does not mean that these

00:03:46.340 people, these soldiers who died were not very important because of course they were. But that's just

00:03:53.180 the terminology that is typically used and the reporting of these kinds of events. According

00:03:58.780 to Radio Traffic, Air Traffic Control at the airport advised the helicopter of the plane's approach

00:04:04.560 and asked the helicopter pilots to confirm that they had the plane in sight, which is standard

00:04:09.640 procedure. And you can hear the pilots say, yes, we have it in sight. But of course, there is some

00:04:14.940 confusion because it looks from what we can see that they ran directly into this plane who looked like it

00:04:22.340 was landing very normally and doesn't look like anything was going wrong with the jet. It just

00:04:29.540 looks like the pilot of the Blackhawk didn't see the plane. Maybe he was looking at another plane.

00:04:38.240 We don't really know how this could have possibly accidentally happened or why they were even running

00:04:45.760 perpendicular to each other. Our new defense secretary, Pete Hedgeseth, put out a video that said the

00:04:52.080 collision took place while the helicopter was participating in a, quote, routine annual

00:04:55.920 training of night flights on a standard corridor for a continuity of government mission. So here is

00:05:03.860 Hedgeseth's video that contains some more revelatory information. It was an annual proficiency

00:05:13.660 training flight. And when we look at the crew and we're not all, not all can have been notified. So

00:05:19.580 we're going to withhold the ranks and names at this point. We do know on our side who was involved.

00:05:25.940 It was a fairly experienced crew and that was doing a required annual night evaluation. They did have

00:05:33.560 night vision goggles. The 12th Aviation Battalion, as of now, is granted a 48-hour operational pause

00:05:41.500 on contingency missions as what happened is reviewed. And a senior level aviation team,

00:05:48.100 an investigative team from our Aviation Safety Center, was deployed last night and already is in Washington,

00:05:54.340 D.C. to investigate what's going on. We anticipate that the investigation will quickly be able to determine

00:06:00.160 whether the aircraft was in the corridor and at the right altitude at the time of the incident. As I mentioned,

00:06:06.520 next of kin notifications are ongoing. It's a tragedy, a horrible loss of life for those 64 souls on that

00:06:14.680 civilian airliner and, of course, the three soldiers in that Black Hawk.

00:06:19.220 Man, I mean, what an event for this administration to be, I don't want to say dealing with, but that's

00:06:30.660 what it is, to have to be working through so early on in this presidency. Secretary of Transportation,

00:06:39.120 Sean Duffy, was just sworn in, I believe, the day before yesterday. And already he is working

00:06:46.460 through the first commercial crash in 16 years. I believe the last one was 2009. And I saw a statistic

00:06:54.760 out there that I think is important for us to remember. Of course, our primary concern is the

00:07:00.080 friends and the family of all of the victims. But I know that there are a lot of you out there

00:07:04.760 who travel and you fly and you have a lot of fear and anxiety about that. I completely understand.

00:07:11.240 We fly a lot too. And I have some of those same thoughts. But I saw on X, someone say that there

00:07:18.420 has only been one commercial crash since 2009. And since then, there have been 150 million commercial

00:07:25.240 flights. So the odds are really good. The chances are really good for you. And commercial flying is,

00:07:33.760 in general, extremely safe. So I just want to comfort you with that statistic. And also the reminder,

00:07:39.940 this quote that I think of all the time, and it's actually, you guys will know, it's slipping my

00:07:44.760 mind who actually said this quote, but that we are immortal until God calls us home. You will not go

00:07:53.140 a second early or a second late. Every single day of your life was already written for you before any

00:07:59.080 of them came to be. That's Psalm 139. And so we can go for it in confidence, doing the next right

00:08:04.280 thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God, knowing that God works all things together

00:08:10.080 for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose. And even the bad and the

00:08:14.520 evil that we see in the world works together to carry off this grand plan of redemption that is

00:08:19.920 always going off without a hitch. So let us pray for the community in Wichita. It's a small town,

00:08:25.400 tight-knit community. Let's pray for these friends and this family. Let's also pray that we get

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00:09:51.320 So, praise God, Trump signed his first bill into law yesterday, January 28th. He signed the Laken-Riley

00:10:00.020 Act. This is a law that requires the Secretary of Homeland Security to take into custody illegal aliens who 0.77

00:10:08.800 have been charged in the United States with theft-related crimes, because you'll remember

00:10:14.440 the guy who murdered Laken-Riley, he had a series of charges on his record. He should have already

00:10:20.720 been deported if it weren't for the soft-on-crime and soft-on-illegal immigration policies of the

00:10:29.160 last administration, and Laken-Riley would still be alive. She would be completing nursing school.

00:10:34.540 She would continue to be sharing the gospel with her friends and showing the love of Christ to

00:10:40.000 people around her. But instead, one of the best people in the country was killed by one of the

00:10:45.740 worst people who shouldn't have been here in the first place. And so, the first law that he has

00:10:52.580 signed as the 47th president was in her honor. Trump said that this bill is something that brought

00:10:58.580 both Republicans and Democrats together. As he rightly said, that's not easy to do. Laken did it.

00:11:04.060 Laken did it. We will never forget Laken Hope Riley. And I just want to cry already. And I will

00:11:10.620 definitely cry as we play this clip of Laken's mother speaking on her behalf and in honor of this

00:11:18.440 bill signed into law. Here's thought two.

00:11:20.560 He said he would secure our borders and that he would never forget about Laken.

00:11:24.520 And he hasn't. He's a man of his word. We trust that he will fight for the American people.

00:11:36.120 Most importantly, I want to thank our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, because without his

00:11:41.120 sacrifices, Laken's story would have ended on that horrific day that she was taken from us.

00:11:46.320 But because of him, we can continue living, knowing that we will see Laken again.

00:11:55.740 There's no amount of change that will ever bring back our precious Laken.

00:12:00.120 Our hope moving forward is that her life saves lives. We're so thankful that her passion for

00:12:07.820 helping others and her legacy for doing good in the name of Jesus Christ will carry on.

00:12:12.440 Thank you.

00:12:22.400 A standing ovation right there. Very well-deserved. And that is a strong mom who is able to hold it

00:12:29.220 together to be able to give glory to God. And you can just see the pain still in her voice. I mean,

00:12:36.540 that pain will really never go away. But the fact that she still has hope in Christ and even

00:12:42.220 sees the work of redemption happening right now is really just amazing and bolsters my faith. And

00:12:51.300 also just the compassion of President Trump right there. You can see him as he extends his hand out

00:12:56.580 to her as she's trying to not cry and give her speech. She did a great job, but he also did

00:13:02.620 a great job. And so just remember this. Remember Laken. Remember Laken's mom as you are bombarded

00:13:12.200 continually with the toxic empathy propaganda that only tells you the sad story of the mom of three

00:13:20.300 who is being sent back to Honduras because she's here illegally. I've seen a lot of people say, 0.91

00:13:26.360 why do those people need to go? And while it is primarily violent criminals right now,

00:13:34.260 criminals who are a national security threat, who are also illegal aliens that are being deported,

00:13:39.220 as Tom Homan, the Borders Are, has said, no one who is here illegally is off the table for deportation.

00:13:45.080 So it is absolutely possible that moms, that dads, that others who are, you know, working and who are

00:13:57.480 part of communities could be deported. And as he said, very simply, it's not okay to be here illegally.

00:14:04.500 And so you are hearing these heart-rending stories. And if you've read Toxic Empathy,

00:14:08.920 you know that that is the strategy. That's how I open every chapter.

00:14:12.640 I give you the story from the left-wing perspective so that by the end of the story,

00:14:17.460 you feel exactly what the left-wing narrative wants you to feel. That either it's on immigration,

00:14:23.180 why should these people be deported? We should let everyone stay who wants to be here, 1.00

00:14:27.420 who is fleeing a hard life somewhere else, whether it's on the transgender issue. Wow,

00:14:32.000 if this person is truly liberated by identifying as someone else, how does it hurt me? Whether it's

00:14:37.440 on the abortion issue. Oh my goodness, this mother had to go through so much in giving birth to this 1.00

00:14:42.180 child. Maybe we shouldn't have any pro-life laws. And then I give you the other perspective. I tell

00:14:48.620 you the story from the true victim's perspective to show you that Toxic Empathy blinds you to both

00:14:55.160 reality and morality. It has you focus on one purported victim, on one particular victim,

00:15:02.680 who in many cases is not really a victim, but is just portrayed as that by the media or left-wing

00:15:08.560 activist. And it blinds you to the people on the other side of the moral equation. With abortion,

00:15:13.960 for example, they show you the quote-unquote victim of the mother, but they never tell you

00:15:19.060 about the story of the true victim. What happens to the child inside the womb when that woman exercises 0.96

00:15:26.840 her right to quote bodily autonomy. It is the same with immigration. The media does not want you to 0.90

00:15:33.180 focus on Lake and Riley or Molly Tibbetts or Kate Steinle or the young woman in Texas outside of 0.65

00:15:40.000 Houston, the 12-year-old who was raped and murdered by illegal immigrants. The young woman in Dallas who 0.92

00:15:46.720 was the victim of a home burglary when she came home from dinner one night and she had four illegal

00:15:53.580 aliens from Venezuela, beat her over the head with their guns, steal from her, left her there. Thankfully, 1.00

00:16:02.320 she is okay. They don't want you to know about the apartment complexes that were taken over by

00:16:07.900 Trende, Aragua, and Aurora, Colorado, and those that are victimized there. They don't want you to think

00:16:13.860 about that. They are going to shine a spotlight only on the people that look vulnerable, that are being

00:16:18.920 deported, to pull on your heartstrings, to exploit your Christian compassion, to get you to be against

00:16:24.320 deportation. And when they do that, I want you to think of Lakin. And it's not just Lakin that I want

00:16:31.340 you to think of. I want you to think of the biblical principles of nations and borders. And if you want

00:16:36.760 more explanation on that, again, I really encourage you to just at least read the immigration chapter

00:16:42.260 of Toxic Empathy. You can get it on Audible. You can get it on Amazon. It's really easy to get.

00:16:47.680 It's really quick, but you will be fully equipped for all of the propaganda that you are getting,

00:16:52.220 even when it comes from Christianity Today. They've got an article out this week, which is

00:16:57.720 not surprising at all. Christianity Today is overwhelmingly progressive, especially under

00:17:03.060 the direction of, I don't even remember his name. What's his name? Russell Moore. Trump's first week

00:17:09.360 sends shutters through immigrant churches and ministries. This is something that we're seeing a lot, 1.00

00:17:14.460 that ICE shouldn't be going to schools. They shouldn't be going to churches. I even got a

00:17:19.400 message from one of you saying, I'm for deportations, but they shouldn't be going to schools 1.00

00:17:22.920 or churches. Except for there are times when illegal aliens who know that they are facing

00:17:28.740 deportation will use churches and schools as a shield because there was a previous law under the

00:17:34.060 previous administration that prohibited ICE from entering places of worship and schools. And so

00:17:40.160 they were used as basically sanctuaries or shields for illegal aliens to be able to avoid deportation.

00:17:48.620 And that's not okay. You shouldn't be able to hide behind children and churches to break the law.

00:17:55.020 So Christianity Today shared several stories. They did exactly, they did the thing. They did the formula

00:18:01.000 of toxic empathy that I talk about in my book. Shared several stories of immigrants and ministries that 0.98

00:18:06.960 are being affected by President Trump's recent immigration policies. They portray them as cruel.

00:18:12.960 The article begins by describing a Nicaraguan couple who came to the U.S. under Biden's parole program,

00:18:19.620 a program that was launched to provide a legal pathway for immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua,

00:18:23.700 and Venezuela to enter the U.S. and work for two years under a sponsor. But now it's time for them to go.

00:18:31.900 But they choose this particular story, again, to portray all immigrants that are being deported

00:18:40.260 as just honest, hardworking people who want to stay, which some of them are hardworking people who

00:18:46.600 want to stay. But again, if we are a nation that has sovereignty and has borders, then we have a right

00:18:51.960 and responsibility to enforce our immigration law. Every single country on earth does as well.

00:18:57.440 The Center for Immigration Studies, however, reports that the program that I just referenced

00:19:02.440 that Christianity Today is saying is so great was created to solve the influx of illegal aliens coming 0.99

00:19:08.020 across the border from those countries. Instead of apprehension and detention, the Biden administration

00:19:12.140 created a program that allowed parolees from each country roughly 386,000 from February to February 23 to

00:19:21.780 April 24 to just stay here legally. And so Trump's administration has no responsibility to keep

00:19:28.640 that program in place. The article says that thousands of screening appointments for asylum

00:19:35.640 seekers were abruptly deleted. Biden era parole programs, which allowed migrants from certain

00:19:40.640 countries to come to the United States for a limited period and work were ordered to close. All

00:19:44.500 refugee resettlement was halted indefinitely. ICE gained expanded powers to deport undocumented

00:19:51.680 immigrants without legal proceedings. Christianity Today says the events of the last seven days are not 0.98

00:19:58.100 merely a return to 2017 Trump policies. Multiple ministry leaders told CT they are next level in

00:20:04.280 unprecedented justice school districts from California, Kentucky to New York are emailing staff about

00:20:09.080 what to do if ICE agents show up on campus. Pastors at immigrant churches are briefing parishioners

00:20:13.040 on their legal rights during encounters with immigration enforcement. Except this is not next level and

00:20:20.160 unprecedented. Because under Barack Obama, 3.5 million illegal aliens were deported. 3.5 million.

00:20:28.480 Now that was over the course of eight years, whereas Trump has only had four years in office. And while Trump

00:20:34.640 was in office, he deported around a million. And so actually, like, he was not even on pace to catch up

00:20:42.420 with Obama, even if he had had eight years in a row. During Obama's eight years, 3.5 million illegal

00:20:49.720 aliens were deported. He was nicknamed deporter in chief. And so I don't remember any outrage about that.

00:20:57.400 Like, do you remember your friends crying about that? Do you know the names, the stories of any of the

00:21:02.700 people that were deported under Barack Obama? Of course you don't. This is all about Trump, guys.

00:21:08.580 Understand that. That they are outraged. The people in your life, the media, Christianity Today, they are

00:21:15.080 outraged not because of the deportations, but because this is Donald Trump. Over a million people

00:21:20.640 were also deported under Biden. Do you know any of their names? Do you know any of their stories? Do

00:21:25.520 you think that was done in some, like, super compassionate, nice way and that Trump is doing

00:21:30.080 something totally different? Like, you also understand that under the Biden administration,

00:21:34.180 there were tens of thousands unaccompanied, unaccounted for minors somewhere in the United

00:21:40.380 States. Actually, not tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, as we have talked about before. And so

00:21:44.960 I always hear Trump is the only one separating parents from children. That is simply not true.

00:21:50.440 Those cages that you heard about in Trump's last administration, those were built by the Obama

00:21:55.020 administration. As we also talk about in the immigration chapter of my book, Democrats were totally

00:22:00.460 on board with all of the things that Trump is doing now for years and years and years. It really wasn't

00:22:06.020 until Trump ran for office on this anti-illegal immigration platform in 2016 that Democrats changed

00:22:12.220 their tune. Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, they were very, at least rhetorically,

00:22:20.180 adamant that they were opposed to illegal immigration and pro-deportation. This has only changed because

00:22:30.020 it is now the anti-Republican, anti-Trump thing to do. And most people in your life who are talking

00:22:37.000 about this have not given a split second of thought to the immigration issue. They have no idea what the

00:22:43.720 underlying facts are. They don't know the statistics. They haven't even thought about what a nation's

00:22:48.700 sovereignty means. They haven't even thought about what it means to be a citizen and to have rights and to

00:22:53.980 have a society that is well-ordered. They haven't thought about any of those things. They let the social

00:22:59.400 media algorithm and Christianity today dictate their outrage. And that is it. Stephen Miller, 0.99

00:23:05.840 who was part of the Trump administration, has a great response to all of this craziness. Here's

00:23:10.200 thought six. I think the framing of the question is wrong. The if there's a law enforcement activity

00:23:15.660 that's taking place in the school, then that would be for the protection and defense of a child. As you

00:23:19.880 know, there is a epidemic of child trafficking and labor trafficking in this country. When when federal

00:23:25.460 law enforcement officers are turned away from a school, it is the act of turning them away that

00:23:29.460 endangers the lives and safety of children. We've seen, as you know, half a million children trafficked

00:23:34.160 over a four-year period in the United States. This administration is going to investigate every

00:23:38.300 instance of child trafficking, labor trafficking, sex trafficking, child smuggling, and all the

00:23:43.220 attendant crimes involved in that. And our message to everyone in the country is to cooperate fully with

00:23:48.420 immigration and customs enforcement so that we can end the scourge of child trafficking and child

00:23:52.460 abuse that has been endemic these last four years. Yep. And that's the other side of the toxic

00:23:57.540 empathy propaganda that you are seeing. It is actually the enforcement of immigration law that

00:24:02.800 best protects children. OK, Selena Gomez, Phil Vischer, in the midst of all of this, you'll remember he's

00:24:10.120 the guy that created VeggieTales. OK, he and I have gone back and forth many times on things and we don't

00:24:17.820 quite see eye to eye, believe it or not. So he posted a picture, an old picture of the Ku Klux 0.92

00:24:23.780 Klan. OK, and they're carrying a banner that says America First. And Phil Vischer says, if you share

00:24:31.280 a slogan with these folks or a tattoo with a mass shooter targeting immigrants, I don't even know what

00:24:38.180 he is referencing there. It might be time to rethink some things. And yes, the responses to this post sort

00:24:44.300 of prove my point. Every America First movement is the last in the last 100 years has been tinged with

00:24:51.460 cruelty. OK, do you apply that same rule to yourself, Phil Vischer? Because at the time of George Floyd's

00:25:01.300 death and the time of the riots, you were repeating many of the mantras that Black Lives Matter was

00:25:07.580 repeating, like Black Lives Matter. Now, are you an avowed Marxist? Do you believe all of the

00:25:16.580 communistic anti-fatherhood principles of Black Lives Matter? Do you share all of their values?

00:25:25.400 You probably would say that you don't, but you would probably say something like, yeah, but I believe

00:25:30.680 that Black Lives Matter, so it's OK for me to say that. Not everyone who is sane. I would say, 1.00

00:25:37.580 99.9% of people who say America First have nothing in common with anyone with any kind of cruel or

00:25:47.200 racialized intentions. What we simply mean is that the American government should put the interest and

00:25:52.840 the well-being of the American people first. And if you do not agree with that, tell me what interest

00:25:57.940 and well-being the American government should put first. Should everyone's interest and well-being in

00:26:03.060 the entire world be on the same level of priority to the American government? Are you saying the

00:26:08.640 American government should care about the well-being and the safety and the interests of

00:26:12.580 people who live in Sri Lanka just as much as they care about the well-being and the safety and the

00:26:17.620 prosperity of the people who live in Kentucky? Like, is that your position? Because that is the

00:26:22.680 America First position, that the American government should care most about the American people.

00:26:27.260 I know, that's crazy, right? That's so radical and so racist. I happen to believe that the government

00:26:34.160 of France should put the interests of the French people first. I happen to believe that the government

00:26:39.940 in China should put the interest and the well-being of the people in China first. I believe that every

00:26:44.680 country should put the interest and the well-being of their people first, even at the expense of the

00:26:51.340 well-being and the interest of other people. Of course, the ideal is to be compassionate to everyone

00:26:58.000 and to help people out as we can. But just as you put the needs of your family first, so a government

00:27:07.240 should put the needs of its own people first. This is really not that hard. I mean, it's an analogy 0.82

00:27:13.440 that I have given many times that you've probably heard many times. Just because you have walls,

00:27:21.660 and doors, and locks, and a fence, and an alarm system to protect your family does not mean that

00:27:28.860 you hate your neighbor. It doesn't mean that you want bad things for them. Just because you wouldn't

00:27:32.720 let a stranger barge into your home and sleep in your children's bed doesn't mean that you hate

00:27:37.080 everyone. You don't hate people in other neighborhoods. You don't hate the person next door. You don't hate

00:27:41.820 someone who lives in another part of the state just because you don't want them to come into your 0.99

00:27:48.080 house and eat the food that was bought for your children. You just love your children more. You

00:27:53.760 love your children differently. You understand that God has given you those children to steward,

00:27:59.500 and you will seek their interest, their safety, even if that makes someone else mad. Like, even if

00:28:05.340 someone else comes along to your house and says, well, you know, I don't have a house, or I don't have a

00:28:10.060 house that looks like this, and I don't have enough food at my home. Now, you might want to help them,

00:28:14.400 and you should help them, and compassion could compel you to help them, but you would not allow

00:28:18.820 that person into your home and to give them all of the things that are reserved for your children.

00:28:23.660 That doesn't make you a good neighbor. That makes you a cruel parent. Because there is this thing

00:28:28.680 called the ordering of loves that J.D. Vance understands, but also Thomas Aquinas understood,

00:28:34.580 also Augustine understood, also C.S. Lewis understood, also the church has understood for a very long time

00:28:41.580 that there are different forms of love. There is love of one's country. There is love of one's

00:28:46.940 children. There is love of a stranger to which Christians are even compelled. There is love to

00:28:51.900 your neighbor. There are different kinds of loves, and how we order our affections actually matter.

00:28:57.760 So in the context of that, in the context of well-ordered loves, this America First slogan is not

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00:30:31.060 outlined what he says is a very Christian idea, that you should love your family and your neighbor

00:30:35.120 first and your community and fellow citizens before you care about the rest of the world.

00:30:39.580 And he says that the left has inverted that. I think that he's right. You can tell me what you

00:30:44.460 think. Here's top three. But there's this old school, and I think it's a very Christian concept,

00:30:49.100 by the way, that you love your family, and then you love your neighbor, and then you love your

00:30:53.560 community, and then you love your fellow citizens in your own country, and then after that, you can

00:30:59.920 focus and prioritize the rest of the world. A lot of the far left has completely inverted that. They

00:31:05.280 seem to hate the citizens of their own country and care more about people outside their own borders.

00:31:10.240 That is no way to run a society. And I think the profound difference that Donald Trump brings to the

00:31:16.000 leadership of this country is the simple concept, America first. Thank God we now have an American

00:31:22.080 president who's looking after the citizens of his own country. Yep, absolutely right, but not everyone

00:31:28.140 agrees with him. We've got some lefties on X who are upset. Benjamin Blake Speed Watkins, he is a,

00:31:35.140 I don't know, a philosopher. His X profile says, LOL, this isn't in the New Testament. Love thy neighbor

00:31:41.780 isn't limited to those next door. It's a commandment to care for the well-being of others, regardless of

00:31:46.220 who they are, a call to be selfless. American Christianity has become a right-wing accessory rather than a

00:31:51.940 serious ethic, except that he didn't say that we should not love other people. He didn't say that

00:31:58.040 we shouldn't love people who don't look like us. He didn't say that we shouldn't love people

00:32:01.880 from other countries. He's talking about an ordering of loves. David Pierce, writer of the

00:32:07.580 Abolitionist Project, which aims to use genetic engineering to abolish suffering in all sentient

00:32:13.000 life. Yeah, super interested in his Christian worldview. He says, Jesus's teaching on love is

00:32:19.000 radically inclusive. Love your neighbor as yourself. Indeed, the whole point of the parable of the Good

00:32:23.800 Samaritan is to undermine the idea of prioritizing love based on closeness. Mass deportations are

00:32:29.980 unchristian. J.D. Vance should reconsider. That is not at all, the Good Samaritan story is not

00:32:38.980 undermining the idea that you should love your family the most or differently than other people.

00:32:45.820 It might be conveying the message that we should love and serve people regardless of what they look

00:32:52.400 like. And I don't think any Christian is disagreeing with that. Philip Goff, philosopher and author,

00:32:59.900 nowhere in the New Testament do we find this idea. Team Trump are rewriting Christianity and others are

00:33:07.020 actually saying this is pagan and tribal. This is not a Christian idea, except it is a Christian idea.

00:33:12.980 Again, when you look at this ordering of loves, which has been a part of Christian history and

00:33:18.980 Christian doctrine and biblical understanding for a long time, we can go all the way back to,

00:33:24.200 for example, Thomas Aquinas. He says, there is an order in charity and God is the principle of that

00:33:29.580 order. God is to be loved out of charity before all others. The other beings that are to be loved out

00:33:35.240 of charity are, so to speak, lined up in their proper places, subordinate to God. We are to love God

00:33:42.560 more than we love ourselves. What we love in ourselves is from God and is lovable only on

00:33:48.140 account of God. He goes on to say, we rightly love one neighbor more than another, our parents,

00:33:54.620 for instance, or our children. In this, we violate no law, so long as we do not withhold requisite love

00:34:01.100 from any neighbor. The dearest objects of charity among neighbors are those who are closest to us by some

00:34:07.340 tie relationship, common country, and so on. The tie that is strongest of all is the tie of blood.

00:34:13.940 Hence, it is natural that we should love our kindred more than others. And then he goes on

00:34:19.440 to explain this. I encourage you to look up Thomas Aquinas' thoughts on well-ordered loves.

00:34:26.920 And C.S. Lewis also writes about this in a couple places. He writes about it in some of his letters.

00:34:31.320 He writes about it in The Four Loves. Really good book I recommend you reading. He also writes about

00:34:37.500 it in The Abolition of Man. He says this. He says, St. Augustine defines virtue as ordo amoris,

00:34:45.340 the ordinate condition of the affections in which every object is accorded that kind of degree of love

00:34:51.960 which is appropriate to it. Aristotle says that the aim of education is to make the pupil like and

00:34:58.120 dislike what he ought. When the age for reflective thought comes, the pupil who has been thus trained

00:35:04.560 in ordinate affections or just sentiments will easily find the first principles in ethics. But to

00:35:12.220 the corrupt man, they will never be visible at all, and he can make no progress in that science.

00:35:17.640 Plato before him said the same. The little human animal will not at first have the right responses.

00:35:22.520 It must be trained to feel pleasure, liking, disgust, and hatred at those things which really are

00:35:26.840 pleasant, likable, disgust, and hateful. And so he's really kind of going beyond the scope of what

00:35:30.740 we're talking about when it comes to patriotism and putting your family and children and neighbors

00:35:35.260 first, but again, going all the way back to Augustine and the rightly ordered affections which first have

00:35:41.620 to come from God. Augustine says in City of God, he says,

00:35:46.440 We must, however, observe right order even in our love for the very love by which we love that is

00:35:53.260 worthy to be loved, so that there may be in us that virtue which enables us to live well. Hence,

00:36:00.760 it seems to me that a brief and true definition of virtue is rightly ordered love. 1 Timothy 5.8

00:36:07.460 says, But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his own

00:36:13.140 household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. So if you don't take care of 1.00

00:36:19.720 your family, if you don't provide for them, you are worse than an enemy of God that is bound for

00:36:25.860 hell. That's what the New Testament teaches. Jeremiah 29.7. Most of us know Jeremiah 29.11. I know the plans

00:36:33.280 I have for you, but as God is talking to the Israelites who have been exiled to Babylon, he says,

00:36:38.180 But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the Lord on its behalf,

00:36:45.140 for in its welfare you will find your welfare. And while we are not ancient Israel, we are exiles in

00:36:53.480 this world. And I believe the same principle stands that we are to seek the welfare and the place in

00:36:58.580 which God has providentially and purposely placed us. Again, does that mean we accept no immigrants?

00:37:04.120 Does that mean we have to accept no refugees or no asylum seekers or that we shouldn't love people

00:37:09.560 who don't look like us or that we should hate other countries? By no means. But I think that we

00:37:14.660 recognize that God is a God of order who has given us countries, borders, languages, cultures for us to

00:37:20.380 thrive. Because we are made in his image, we are also people of order. We need a certain ordering of

00:37:26.320 things. He has given us parents. He has given us families. He has given us structures. He has given us the

00:37:31.860 ability to create societies and cultures and structures because we do not deal well with chaos.

00:37:38.360 We don't deal well with anarchy. We actually need organization. We need order in order to live and

00:37:47.000 to function and to thrive. I mean, that is how anything good in civilization has been created,

00:37:54.880 by creating some kind of cohesive society with shared values that prioritizes those values and

00:38:03.320 the interests of those people with shared values first. And obviously, not every society has been

00:38:10.940 created like that, but that is what makes Western civilization and America unique and so good.

00:38:17.820 And so people just simply misunderstand J.D. Vance. Or they don't misunderstand, they misconstrue him.

00:38:26.240 And people who claim to be Christians don't actually know anything about Christian doctrine. They don't

00:38:30.360 know about the Bible. They don't know about Christian history. And an honest leftist will admit that they

00:38:36.440 actually think that way too. They don't prioritize the safety of a random child that they don't know over

00:38:44.080 the safety of their child. Like most people don't actually function like that, even if they say that

00:38:50.040 they do. And the people who do function like that, like a lot of them are like single women in their 0.89

00:38:55.560 40s who voted and 50s and 60s who voted for Kamala Harris. That's misplaced mothering. They are 0.97

00:39:02.440 channeling their natural nurturing instincts into a stranger because they never allowed that natural

00:39:09.920 instinct to manifest in an actual biological or adopted or foster child. And so that natural

00:39:16.420 instinct to mother actually channels itself into social justice causes, including into illegal 0.97

00:39:20.980 immigrants. And it satisfies that innate longing to be a mom. And so there's just a lot going on here.

00:39:28.160 And J.D. Vance is absolutely right, I think, from a Christian perspective. All right, we've got a bit 0.99

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00:40:31.280 Okay, so there are hearings going on today. We don't have time to talk about all of those

00:40:35.280 because I do want to talk about a more lighthearted subject because we've been talking about so many

00:40:39.780 heavy things. But yesterday, RFK confirmation hearings, he's doing that today as well. Then

00:40:46.020 we've got Kash Patel for director of the FBI. He's going through his hearings. We've got Tulsi

00:40:51.520 Gabbard going through her hearings. There's a lot to talk about and a lot to be watching.

00:40:56.540 But I just want to play this moment from yesterday in RFK's hearing as he was going back and forth with

00:41:04.720 Bernie Sanders. This is just ridiculous. And make sure that you also watch the background of this 0.95

00:41:10.340 video. Here's top four. Can you tell us now that you will, now that you are pro-vaccine,

00:41:18.060 that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market?

00:41:21.820 Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not part of it. I resigned from the board.

00:41:26.300 That was just a few months ago. You founded that. You certainly have power. You can make that.

00:41:31.760 Are you supportive of this?

00:41:33.860 I've had nothing to do with leadership.

00:41:35.620 Are you supportive of these onesies?

00:41:36.980 I'm supportive of vaccines.

00:41:38.400 Are you supportive of these, this clothing, which is militantly anti-vaccine?

00:41:44.900 Okay. So the onesies say, uh, un-vax, unafraid. And the other one says, no vax, no problem.

00:41:52.980 And Bernie Sanders put pictures of these onesies up. Are you supportive of the onesies?

00:41:58.480 Are you supportive of the onesies? And in the back behind RFK, who is holding it together and like,

00:42:04.300 uh, Megan Kelly is cracking up. She is laughing so hard. And I just love that. Are you supportive

00:42:14.720 of the onesies? That I think that could go on a hat too. No, I want to get a onesie that says,

00:42:21.580 are you supportive of this onesie? Not for me, but for, for a baby. And maybe I can, what'd you say?

00:42:28.480 Sorry. Also, can I just say militantly anti-vax is such a funny thing to say about a onesie militantly.

00:42:36.300 Wait, is that what Bernie Sanders, how he described it?

00:42:39.020 Yeah. Are you supportive of these onesies that are militantly anti-vax?

00:42:43.260 Yeah. What would be like a, like an adorably anti-vax or like a softly anti-vax versus militantly

00:42:51.160 anti-vax. I like that idea for a onesie militantly anti-vax baby. Um, oh my goodness. That was

00:43:00.620 absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. And if you didn't listen to or watch yesterday's 0.99

00:43:07.640 episode, you can go do that. You can hear my thoughts about a little bit about just like

00:43:12.580 the culture surrounding vaccines and also RFK jr. All right. We've got, I've got some breakup advice

00:43:19.700 to give to y'all in light of a very public breakup that is going on right now. Now this is not simply

00:43:26.500 celebrity gossip. It, I mean, if you wanted just the celebrity gossip, you could go somewhere to

00:43:31.580 get that. I'm going to give you a summary of something that's happening, but we're also going

00:43:35.140 to explain why I care about this and the lessons that I think are important to draw from it. This is

00:43:41.860 a bachelor breakup between Matt James and Rachel Kirkconnell. So he was on season 25 of the bachelor. He was the

00:43:49.440 franchise's first ever black bachelor. He recently split with his longtime girlfriend, Rachel Kirkconnell

00:43:55.240 announcing the breakup with an Instagram post prayer. Very strange. She broke her silence on a recent

00:44:03.260 episode of call her daddy, a show that we do not cannot recommend, but it gives context for why we're

00:44:12.800 talking about this because this is in the news. And this is just a guide to how not to date and how

00:44:20.740 not to break up as a believer. And I do think it's important to talk about. And again, this is all

00:44:27.520 public. We're not speculating here. This is what happened. And there's also some interesting cultural

00:44:32.900 moments in this. And you'll remember who Rachel Kirkconnell is in a second. So this happened in 2020. You remember

00:44:38.660 the craziness of 2020. This is when he was filming The Bachelor, the first ever black bachelor. Then in January 0.94

00:44:48.340 2021, this is when the season began airing on television. And after it started airing, these quote unquote

00:44:57.260 racially insensitive photos from Rachel's past surfaced on social media. So in the photos, Rachel is seen 0.98

00:45:06.440 attending an antebellum plantation themed college party in 2018. She was wearing like one of those,

00:45:17.320 you know, hoop skirts. And it was I mean, I think I even know it might have been like it might have

00:45:24.860 been a convivium or something. I went to school in South Carolina and you will not find any pictures of

00:45:30.280 me wearing a hoop skirt or going to anything like antebellum themed. But I am familiar with some of

00:45:36.620 these parties. She went to college in Georgia. And so she was at a formal where they were dressing up

00:45:41.680 like this. And everyone said in light of all the craziness going on, that that was racist, that that

00:45:47.700 was white supremacist, even though they weren't celebrating slavery. It had nothing to do with race.

00:45:52.540 Like the South isn't inherently racist. It's not inherently about slavery. And not everything from

00:46:01.940 that time is about that or is about you or is about being offended. However, this caused this huge

00:46:10.080 storm on social media. You had all of these people, other contestants coming out against her and saying

00:46:17.280 this is so awful. And everyone was having this like big, long conversation. Like you'll remember

00:46:23.380 Rachel Lindsay. She was another Rachel. She was a former bachelorette, the first black bachelorette.

00:46:29.800 And she and Chris Harrison like had this back and forth. And Chris Harrison, who had been the host of

00:46:35.640 The Bachelor for 20 or 20 plus years, kind of defended Rachel and said, well, that was a while ago.

00:46:43.760 And then what happened to Chris Harrison? He was let go and he was replaced by Emmanuel

00:46:49.440 Ocho. And Emmanuel Ocho was the guy who was doing the little silly conversations about hard

00:46:57.700 conversations with the black man, which was basically just perpetuating all of the propaganda 0.93

00:47:03.400 at the time. White people are privileged. White people carry inherent guilt. White people have an 0.77

00:47:08.740 inherent responsibility to people with more melanin in their skin, perpetuating all kinds of false

00:47:15.560 narratives about the police and systemic injustice at the time. He also, a couple years ago, after the

00:47:21.900 overturning of Roe v. Wade, he had an honest conversation about abortion with a bunch of women, with the hard

00:47:27.960 conversations with the black man or whatever. And it was completely lopsided. He claims to be a

00:47:32.820 Christian. It was total pro-choice propaganda. So it doesn't really surprise me that he was chosen for 0.62

00:47:38.760 this. He was also embroiled in a lot of drama recently with ESPN. I won't get into that right

00:47:43.980 now. But he was chosen as Chris Harrison's replacement. And so poor Rachel, she got a bunch

00:47:52.240 of flack for this. While the show was continuing to air in February 2021, Rachel then posted an apology 0.97

00:47:58.460 to her Instagram, admitting that her ignorance was racist and that she was wrong. Okay. So she went

00:48:06.000 through the struggle session and she came out on the other side and said, you know, the only way that

00:48:11.420 I'm going to be able to rectify my reputation is to admit that she was being racist in 2018, which of

00:48:17.380 course she wasn't. Like she's, you know, basically saying ignorance is an excuse, blah, blah, blah.

00:48:23.220 So he chose Rachel. They were dating, not engaged at the end of filming the season. But then after all of

00:48:33.900 this blew up in 2021, they apparently broke up. And James revealed this to Emmanuel Alco in the after

00:48:41.080 the final Rose special in March of 2021. He said, when Rachel spoke out and publicly acknowledged that

00:48:48.880 she would do better and she apologized is when I finally was able to take a check on myself.

00:48:53.220 And see where I was at. And I wasn't okay because it was in that moment that he realized

00:48:58.440 that the conversation that I had, that Rachel might not understand what it means to be black

00:49:03.820 in America. Then Rachel joined James and Alco on the, after the final Rose. And despite her

00:49:11.500 apologies and her feelings for James, he made it clear that the relationship was over. So this is on

00:49:15.600 TV. He says, after all of this, this controversy, this racial controversy, again, after they had been

00:49:21.500 together, here's what this guy says to Rachel's top five.

00:49:24.720 When I questioned our relationship, it was on the context of you not fully understanding

00:49:33.520 my blackness and what it means to be a black man in America and what it would mean for our kids

00:49:41.040 when I saw those things that were floating around the internet. And it broke my heart because this

00:49:49.100 is the last conversation I thought we'd be having. I had to take a step back for you to put in that

00:49:53.260 work that you outlined that you needed to do. And that's something you got to do on your own.

00:49:59.600 And that's why we can't be in a relationship.

00:50:03.820 Oh my gosh. So you have to do the work because you wore a dress in 2018 and you went to some

00:50:11.720 antebellum party in 2018, even though he knows her now and says that he loves her and loved her

00:50:18.620 enough to like be on a path toward marriage after the bachelor, after he saw some of these pictures,

00:50:23.560 instead of being like, you know what? I know you, I love you. You're with me. You're obviously not

00:50:27.060 racist. He broke up with her according to the interview and call her daddy because a lot of

00:50:31.400 people around him were like, friends, family were like, no, you shouldn't be with her. He broke up

00:50:36.060 with her and said, you have to do the work. There's your sign, girl. He doesn't love you. I mean,

00:50:42.380 that's, that's a horrible thing to do in front of people. You are in, you are calling someone one of

00:50:46.600 the worst things that you can call them and say, I don't think I can raise kids with you because

00:50:50.660 you might be racist still. I don't know. What are your thoughts? I remember watching this when it,

00:50:56.260 when it happened, I was watching it with a friend and I felt so uncomfortable because

00:51:00.900 look at her face during that. She just has to take it. She's devastated. Cause what else is she

00:51:06.720 going to do? You know, she can't fight back. So she's just accepting all of this. I would just say

00:51:13.460 if someone embarrassed me like that on national television, I wouldn't date them for four years

00:51:20.520 after that. No. So no, it's so embarrassing. Gives me the ick even watching it now. Yeah,

00:51:28.460 absolutely. Poor thing. But she, I mean, she must've really loved him or she just felt like a lot of guilt

00:51:34.080 because they rekindled their relationship, right? Only two months later in February, 2024, last year,

00:51:40.760 James told people that engagement was the goal. Well, if y'all are in your twenties, I don't know how old,

00:51:45.100 do you know how old he is, Brie? Um, I don't. 20s, 30s. I think that she's, she's definitely

00:51:51.680 in her twenties if she was in college in 2018, right? He's 33. She's 28. Okay. 33, 28. Y'all

00:51:58.320 have been dating for four years. He finally says after they've been dating for three years that

00:52:02.280 engagement is the goal. Well, yeah, let's hope so. I mean, they also say that they are Christians.

00:52:09.620 He definitely says that he's a Christian. If you're dating at that point in your life without moving in

00:52:14.340 that direction, we've got a big problem. The couple dated for roughly four years,

00:52:19.220 though they didn't live together due to James's religious beliefs. That's a quote. And actually

00:52:24.720 we heard in the call her daddy podcast, the, um, Rachel said they basically did live together.

00:52:30.760 They had separate spaces. They had separate apartments, but they basically did live together.

00:52:35.820 So they were playing like they were married. And so of course they were very attached because

00:52:41.740 we're not meant for that. We're not meant to live with someone before you get married.

00:52:46.120 You're not meant to, you're supposed to reserve all of that, not for dating, not for engagement,

00:52:52.480 but for marriage. You are supposed to save sex for that. And you are supposed to save the most

00:52:57.980 intimate parts of your life for that because God cares for you. He cares for your body. He cares for

00:53:03.880 your heart. He doesn't want you to play wife, to play mom, only to get your heart broken a few years

00:53:10.160 later. He meant for you to be in the sacred, holy monogamous bonds of marriage for life because he

00:53:18.280 cares for your heart and your soul and your mind and your body. These things weren't meant to be given

00:53:24.440 away to so many people and so flippantly. And so we've got the announcement of the breakup, or I guess

00:53:33.700 after most people found out that they broke up. He posted this on Instagram, and this is just a

00:53:40.940 great example of what you should not do if you have broken up with someone. So he posted a picture of

00:53:47.600 them together, I guess, on The Bachelor. And he said this like a prayer. The caption was,

00:53:52.940 Father God, give Rachel and I, it's actually Rachel and me, strength to mend our broken hearts.

00:53:59.580 Give us a peace about this decision to end our relationship that transcends worldly understanding.

00:54:04.420 Shower our friends and family with kindness and love and comfort to us and remind us that our joy

00:54:08.400 comes from you. Lord, there's nothing wrong with that prayer. Like, I think that that could be a

00:54:12.680 really beautiful, sincere, heartfelt prayer to pray to God, not to put on your Instagram. I think that is

00:54:19.620 probably hurtful to the person that you've just broken up with. It's also strange. It seems very

00:54:25.540 performative. It seems some, I think Bree said earlier, like a Christian virtue signal, like kind

00:54:30.780 of like a form of like posting a black square. And I think it goes against what we're also told to

00:54:37.720 like make sure that we're praying in secret and that we're not trying to show our righteousness

00:54:41.920 to others. This is just, it's very messy, but it's also just a bad example, I think, from beginning

00:54:51.180 to end of how Christians should conduct ourselves in relationship. What do you think, Bree? What are

00:54:56.060 some lessons that you draw from this? Um, well, one of the things that irked me a little bit in her 0.99

00:55:04.640 interview, she said, yes, the thing about, you know, she, they didn't live together because he didn't want

00:55:11.300 to because he's very religious and she was okay with that. I take that to mean she's not, um, and just

00:55:17.000 kind of went along with it. She does have pronouns in her profile. Yeah. She does have pronouns in her 1.00

00:55:21.600 profile and he doesn't. Um, and she says, but at the same time, I'm a little confused because we're

00:55:27.280 still traveling together, staying in the same hotel. Half of his stuff is at my place. So they were

00:55:31.640 living together essentially. Um, and she, I, to me, it's just like four years is a long time

00:55:40.200 to be sitting there waiting for a ring. And, um, and that's not fair. She said when he broke up

00:55:47.000 with her, she said at the end, he, he said, this is a quote from her. He said that at the end of the

00:55:52.060 day, there were just qualities about me that he worries about having in a wife. He didn't realize

00:55:56.700 for four years. Yeah. That that was the same worries that you had in the beginning that she was,

00:56:02.320 uh, like secret pro secretly pro slavery, secret racist. Yeah. I guess that didn't come up again

00:56:10.340 until four years later. So, and also she talked about like his dishonesty in the beginning when

00:56:16.280 they like broke up and he was hanging out with other women. And so again, I think the performative

00:56:23.460 righteousness when she says that, you know, she was really confused because she wanted to live

00:56:28.680 together. Apparently he didn't, but they're traveling together. She said, we stayed in the

00:56:32.320 same hotel. Half of his stuff is still, you know, like at my house in Georgia, we basically did live

00:56:39.000 together. And so, I mean, what example was she set of for like a Christian man who is supposed to be 0.68

00:56:45.260 this leader who refuses to give her like what her heart longs for, which is true intimacy and probably

00:56:50.460 marriage. And he is just like kind of stringing her along and playing like husband and wife

00:56:57.580 without actually making that commitment. And then at the end of it all, posting a public prayer after

00:57:04.180 he had already taken her through the public humiliation ritual of calling her a racist on TV.

00:57:11.340 Yep. It's bad. And the reality is if she's not a Christian, maybe he witnessed to her throughout

00:57:17.780 their relationship. I don't know. It would almost be worse. It would almost be like, here's what the

00:57:23.120 Bible says, but also like, I'm going to give you, I'm going to take, you know, I don't know what they

00:57:29.040 were doing physically. I'm not saying that, but we're going to pretend to be married. That's not

00:57:33.580 leadership. That's not a good example. And this breakup post, which he posted without telling her

00:57:39.820 beforehand, apparently, is another example of like, okay, well, she's associating prayer now with this

00:57:47.680 experience, which is also just sad to me. So yeah. And obviously like there's always going to be a lot

00:57:53.840 that we don't know, but I know a lot of you out there are going through breakups, have gone

00:57:58.880 through breakups. I had been through breakups and they just, there's just no other way to say it.

00:58:04.160 They just suck and they're always sad and they're always bad and they're never fun. But I do want to

00:58:10.520 remind you that I can't promise you that God has like your future husband waiting around the corner.

00:58:16.020 I don't think any of us are guaranteed that, but I do encourage you to look out for the red flags and

00:58:23.680 listen when you have an inkling inside your head or your heart or your gut, however you want to

00:58:29.140 describe it, that this is not right. When you feel this is not right, we can't always be driven by our

00:58:36.960 emotions, but usually that is a conviction telling you not to settle. Do not settle because you are scared

00:58:44.180 that you are never going to find someone better. It is better to be single and sad than married and

00:58:49.420 regretful. Okay. So remember that, remember that the Lord's ways are better. His timing is better.

00:58:55.620 His plan is better. And you do not have to be a wife and mom in order to be a complete woman of God. 0.78

00:59:02.320 Those things are beautiful. I have them. I love them. They're wonderful to aspire to,

00:59:06.140 but you can be what God calls you to be. You can do what God calls you to do right now in this stage

00:59:13.440 of life. You can have fullness of joy and contentment and satisfaction right now, even before

00:59:19.360 or without that stage of your life. And by the way, if you're going to break up with someone,

00:59:24.880 I say do it honestly, do it honorably. And also if you can't keep your hands off each other,

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01:00:21.300 Okay. Should we do the quick debate of whether young moms, new moms are entitled? Let's do it. 1.00

01:00:31.680 Okay. This was actually a couple of weeks ago. I saw this post. Uh, let me find it on my document

01:00:38.520 that I just thought was ridiculous. So I used to follow this person. I don't really know who she is,

01:00:43.080 but, uh, she posted this. It has 15,000 likes and lots of replies and responses on X. It says,

01:00:49.260 she says, I got invited to a baby shower and on the invite, it said, please purchase gifts from

01:00:53.940 the baby registry. I'm sorry. She said, if you invite me to a party and then tell me where and

01:00:59.860 how to buy a present, I'm not coming and you're not getting a present. No one owes you a gift because

01:01:06.520 you got pregnant. She says, and certainly no one owes you a specific gift of your choosing because

01:01:11.340 you got pregnant. No one owes you a gift because you choose to get married either. If you have a wedding

01:01:16.600 and are only inviting people with anticipation of gifts, don't invite them. One last post to clear

01:01:22.340 up confusion. Then it's going on mute. Yes. Including where you are registered for a baby shower is

01:01:28.500 standard, but telling people to purchase from that registry is not. She truly seems like a delight

01:01:35.140 and fun at parties. I'm going to ask her if she will send me her mailing address just so I can invite

01:01:42.380 her to my next party and I'll tell her exactly where I want her. Send a registry. Okay. So if 0.98

01:01:50.400 you're invited to a baby shower and you are told that exact language, what is your thought?

01:01:58.520 You're told, here's the registry, please purchase from this registry. What are you thinking?

01:02:02.720 Uh, I'm thinking that makes it so much easier for me, you know, unless it's someone I'm super close

01:02:10.040 with, but even then I would still get them something that they needed from the registry. And then maybe

01:02:15.660 something that's like personal. I don't, I can't imagine any scenario in which I would be offended

01:02:21.060 by them asking for what they probably need. My only thought is that she's misunderstanding.

01:02:28.100 She's saying it as she's saying it as a directive, like purchase me a gift. And if, and you are

01:02:37.620 purchasing me a gift and purchase it from this registry, like don't show up empty handed. That's

01:02:42.500 not what is meant. That's not how I read it, but I guarantee that's not what it's meant. It's like,

01:02:46.680 Hey, if you're going to purchase a gift, please purchase it from the registry. Yeah. But I saw all of

01:02:51.440 these replies saying, I hate when people tell me to purchase from a registry. I get them. I get

01:02:57.600 someone whatever I want to give them. I'm not going to necessarily purchase from the registry.

01:03:03.680 That is so selfish. I'm just confused about that perspective in general though. Me too.

01:03:10.740 Because why? Because I think that makes the gift giving about you. You want to be seen as like

01:03:16.500 ultra creative. Well, I don't want your watercolor wine glasses. I would maybe understand it if they

01:03:23.860 were getting you something super expensive, if they wanted to outdo everyone else and they wanted

01:03:28.200 to get you, you know, whatever, a car, I don't know, something crazy, then sure. But still, you

01:03:34.560 don't need to be offended by what they're asking for. It's a little different. I think with baby,

01:03:38.920 baby registries and wedding registries, maybe. I've seen some weird stuff on wedding registries that

01:03:43.580 I'm like, I would not buy that for you.

01:03:45.660 No, but okay. I also think that when you're registering for a wedding, you're like thinking

01:03:51.720 about all the guests that you have and you're trying to get like a wide range of things based

01:03:56.680 on who you know is coming, based on like what people can afford. And so you're trying to get

01:04:01.300 some like more affordable things and you're like, well, my mom's friend is coming. Maybe I will

01:04:07.740 register for this, you know, thing. Who knows? Maybe someone will get me like the mixer that I'm

01:04:13.120 looking for. And I think some people, when they look at the registry, they like might balk at that

01:04:17.340 or get offended. Like, I'm not buying, not saying that you're saying this, but like, I'm not buying

01:04:21.860 that $400 mixer. And it's like, well, it's not for you, Stacey. That's for like Mrs. Archibald or

01:04:28.160 whoever, like she's going to buy that.

01:04:30.660 Yeah, that's true.

01:04:31.720 And I, cause I saw a lot of replies to this being like, I don't want to buy your like fancy branded

01:04:36.580 stuff. I'm just going to buy you like whatever onesies you want. I think that's silly too.

01:04:42.240 Yeah. It is silly. 0.96

01:04:44.960 Because I highly doubt that it was only expensive stuff. Again, I think people really try hard to

01:04:51.240 give a wide range. Like if you can only get me a box of wipes, that's great. I love a box of wipes,

01:04:56.380 but if you can't get me the Duna, please, by all means, give me the Duna. So I just think this

01:05:03.320 mentality is so, so strange. I'm interested to see what people have to say in the comments. And if you

01:05:09.840 are one of those people who doesn't like registries or doesn't purchase off of registries, what

01:05:14.720 someone has taken the time to expressly tell you that they want, then I would like to know

01:05:20.560 your mentality. I would, please tell me your reasoning. I don't know. I just thought that this

01:05:27.140 was so grumpy, old woman shaking her fist at the clouds type vibe. 1.00

01:05:30.860 Yeah. There's something else going on here for sure. Also, no one owes you a gift because you

01:05:34.940 got pregnant. Yeah. No one's saying they do. Where did that come from? Yeah. Don't go. Don't go to 0.97

01:05:43.200 the party. You know, like why it's called a shower. Like, you know that you're not taking a shower

01:05:47.980 there. Like you're showering someone with gifts. That is what the shower is. I want to know how in

01:05:53.280 the world you got on this invite list and how this poor mom feels seeing your attitude. I mean,

01:06:00.840 not only would you be uninvited, I think I would put out a restraining order. Like this is crazy

01:06:05.900 behavior. Crazy. Like so mean for no reason. Like here's your, imagine like you got this cheery,

01:06:13.700 cute baby shower invitation with turtles on it. And this is your reaction. And you decide to

01:06:23.220 post on X how angry you are. It's that's, that's, I don't know. That's wild. That's just wild to me.

01:06:29.580 All right. We really covered a spectrum of things today on today's episode of Relatable. And we didn't

01:06:34.740 even get into everything that we wanted to talk about. There's just always so much. We've got a

01:06:38.820 really fun and meaningful interview that's coming out on Monday. Maybe you have followed on Instagram,

01:06:44.100 a woman who is known by the moniker, the blind mom. She makes a lot of really funny, informative and 0.81

01:06:51.120 entertaining videos, but she's a Christian. And I wanted to hear what her life is like as a blind 0.95

01:06:57.780 mother. And I wanted to hear more about her faith. And so it's a really encouraging conversation that

01:07:02.940 you're going to love coming out on Monday. And oh my gosh, Brie, you almost let me forget this.

01:07:08.980 You almost let me forget the share the arrows announcement. Wow. If y'all have made it this far,

01:07:13.500 I could have done that instead of the whole debate. Okay. Share the arrows. Share the arrows is

01:07:20.080 happening on October 11th, 2025 in Dallas, Texas. And I am so pumped about that. Here is a video

01:07:32.480 making that announcement. September 28th, 2024, a day we've been praying for and working toward

01:07:43.540 for months. The first ever share the arrows. A gathering of 4,000 women across North America

01:07:57.560 eager to hear biblical truth. The evangelical church has swapped the biblical mandate of godly

01:08:04.280 confrontation for godless, spineless compromise. To be challenged in their calling. Start the day

01:08:11.760 by assuming that your family's purpose is to be a blessing to others and not simply to receive

01:08:17.060 blessings. And to experience peace in the midst of chaos.

01:08:20.760 This is my father's world. I rest in the heart.

01:08:29.960 We shared laughs. I would tell 20-year-old Candice that your 20s are not the best decade of your life.

01:08:36.760 Yeah. So true. We were equipped. But Christianity means nothing if truth is not real. And we were 0.79

01:08:46.560 called to courage. That's where our courage comes from. That's where the courage of the martyrs came

01:08:52.380 from. And that power is sufficient for our confidence and our courage today. I'd never hosted an event

01:08:58.220 before. So I didn't know what to expect. But it was obvious to everyone there. This was the beginning

01:09:05.080 of a movement.

01:09:06.560 Okay. If you are just watching that, share the arrows. 2025, October 11th in Dallas, Texas. Tickets on sale

01:09:32.500 February 28th. That is for all of you. Now for Blaze TV subscribers, you can get access to those

01:09:39.440 early bird tickets a few days early. Go to blazetv.com slash Allie. You can subscribe.

01:09:43.940 That will ensure that you will have access to those early bird tickets. We have a limited number of

01:09:48.900 early bird tickets where you get that steep discount. So make sure that you do whatever you

01:09:53.140 can to get those tickets as soon as possible. It is going to be amazing, y'all. I'm so excited.

01:09:57.820 Don't worry. I'm going to keep reminding you for the next month. Tickets on sale February 28th. I cannot

01:10:03.380 wait. All right. That's all we got time for today. See you back here on Monday.

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