Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1137 ｜ Paula White & 'He Gets Us' Get Jesus Wrong

00:00:00.560 Paula White has been appointed by President Trump to lead his new White House faith office.

00:00:05.700 Who is she and why is she so controversial? 1.00

00:00:08.340 We'll get into all of that, but first we will look at the Super Bowl, the great ads, the

00:00:13.040 cringe ads, and the he gets us ads.

00:00:17.040 We've got so much on today's episode of Relatable.

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00:00:30.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:37.200 Happy Monday.

00:00:38.400 Hope everyone had a wonderful and restful weekend.

00:00:41.740 You can tell from the sound and from the look that I am not in my studio recording remotely

00:00:47.840 today.

00:00:48.960 We are going to talk about all things Super Bowl, and yes, we will get into Paula White.

00:00:54.520 I've gotten so many messages about that.

00:00:57.060 And per usual, we have so much to talk about this week.

00:01:03.400 So much to talk about.

00:01:05.120 I am going to try my darndest to get it all in.

00:01:08.800 There were so many things I wanted to talk about in today's episode that we just didn't

00:01:13.140 have time when we were researching and putting our outline together, like Wheaton College and

00:01:19.240 their response to Russ Voigt being appointed and being confirmed to his position in the

00:01:25.980 Trump administration.

00:01:27.300 What went on with Kanye West this weekend?

00:01:29.920 I will do my best to get into all of that, probably on Wednesday, because tomorrow we are

00:01:35.280 talking to Wes Huff.

00:01:37.100 If you haven't listened to his conversation with Joe Rogan, you should.

00:01:40.780 And we will get into a lot of really interesting apologetics, theology, history stuff tomorrow.

00:01:46.560 So tune into that.

00:01:47.700 Thank you to all of you who have been praying for us as we have been battling the flu in

00:01:53.840 our home.

00:01:55.100 I told you on Instagram, but if you didn't catch it, my encouragement to you is that if

00:01:59.100 you are in the midst of flu, we had flu A, it lasts a long time.

00:02:04.120 Like this flu just really hangs on.

00:02:06.840 This is like a 7- to 10-day deal, and what I have been told, both by our pediatrician

00:02:13.220 and by those of you out there who have been experiencing this sickness, is that you really

00:02:19.060 have to look out for the post-infection infections.

00:02:23.280 And this is true, I think, of all viruses at all times, but it seems to me like the post-flu

00:02:30.040 infections are really common this year.

00:02:33.100 So things like pneumonia, sinus infection, ear infections, again, I think we're probably

00:02:38.160 always susceptible to those things when our immune systems are suppressed, but I'm just

00:02:42.820 noticing that this seems to be really common and then catching a different kind of flu strand

00:02:47.060 the next week.

00:02:48.200 And so I have been taking, trying to get my kids to take, they've been taking like their 0.62

00:02:53.460 normal supplements, but Chief Related Bro and I have been taking, in addition to our normal

00:02:58.780 WeHeart Nutrition supplements, CMOS gel.

00:03:02.180 I don't know if you guys have ever had CMOS gel.

00:03:04.940 You got a kick out of me saying on Instagram that it's not the best thing I've ever tasted,

00:03:11.880 but it is the worst.

00:03:13.260 Like, it is the worst.

00:03:14.340 It is the exact kind of texture that you would expect from CMOS, which is not good.

00:03:20.640 I hear that it comes in gummy form and capsule form.

00:03:22.960 I don't know if that is as fresh or if it works as well.

00:03:25.480 So if it's as bioavailable as the form that I got, I got it from Sprouts and just like

00:03:31.000 a warning, it is ridiculously expensive, which don't tell Dave Ramsey this, but that is like

00:03:37.520 why I got it.

00:03:39.000 I saw it and the fact that it was $35 for a jar, I was like, that's intriguing.

00:03:43.740 It must really work.

00:03:45.640 That's probably not the way to grocery shop, but I'm glad that I got it because I actually

00:03:51.320 think that it's helping.

00:03:52.100 I had just seen like the benefits of ashwagandha and I'm sure there's some of you out there

00:03:56.200 who like have heard horror stories about ashwagandha.

00:03:58.820 I have no idea, but I've heard the benefits of it.

00:04:01.740 And so it has like a black seed oil and different things in there too.

00:04:06.580 I actually really think that it's helped me because every day I start thinking that I

00:04:12.620 am going to have the onset of the flu.

00:04:15.100 I started having symptoms last week.

00:04:16.980 It just dissipates by the afternoon, which is crazy for the flu.

00:04:19.960 Typically when one person gets it in a household, everyone gets it and somehow she for later 0.98

00:04:25.120 bro and I have like been on the brink of it and then we just haven't gotten it.

00:04:29.400 I've also taken local elderberry.

00:04:31.040 I'm sure that's helped.

00:04:31.760 I've taken like a lot of zinc and of course vitamin C and D and there are all other kinds

00:04:36.420 of things.

00:04:36.780 A lot of you out there have recommended oregano oil.

00:04:39.320 I don't think that I've taken that for immunity purposes, but if you guys say that it works,

00:04:44.660 I believe you.

00:04:47.820 And so I am praying for you and I am thinking about you, my thoughts and prayers and heart

00:04:53.680 and sympathy.

00:04:55.420 And yes, empathy is with you.

00:04:57.540 If you are going through that yourself or if your kids are going through it, it's just

00:05:00.980 really, really tough when your kids are sick.

00:05:03.820 And when every day you wake up hoping, okay, today's the day they're going to be back to

00:05:07.460 a hundred percent and they're still feeling miserable and pitiful.

00:05:10.860 And it's just really hard, but thank the Lord.

00:05:15.080 I've just been like thanking the Lord for immune systems and for all of the tools that

00:05:19.120 he has given us to like fight sicknesses.

00:05:22.040 And it's also a great gospel opportunity conversations I've had with my five-year-old, just that one

00:05:27.620 day there will be no more sickness.

00:05:28.840 And one day our bodies will be whole and perfect and we will never have to get the flu.

00:05:35.080 We'll never get the stomach bug.

00:05:38.840 We will never have to worry about all different kinds of ailments and imperfections and struggles

00:05:46.580 and suffering and pain that we have to go through.

00:05:49.640 And one day we will live in perfect peace.

00:05:52.340 And so even moments like this, it's a good opportunity to remind our kids of future joy

00:05:57.440 and redemption and to rely on the Lord when things are hard and to pray even for things

00:06:02.760 that might seem small and might seem temporary.

00:06:04.940 We get to cast all of our cares on the Lord because he cares for us.

00:06:09.440 And that's just a beautiful reality.

00:06:11.540 So I'm praying for all of those little difficult, but redemptive moments and your life.

00:06:17.260 All right.

00:06:17.880 The Superbowl was yesterday.

00:06:19.440 Maybe you didn't watch the Superbowl.

00:06:21.420 And if you didn't, I don't blame you because I didn't really have a dog in this fight.

00:06:26.160 The Chiefs are cool, I guess.

00:06:28.920 They've been in the Superbowl a lot and that's great.

00:06:33.260 Good for them.

00:06:34.380 I hear that going to the Superbowl as a football team is positive.

00:06:37.820 So happy for them.

00:06:39.300 And then you have the Eagles, which I understand they were also glad to go to the Superbowl.

00:06:46.200 And I think they've also won the Superbowl in the past.

00:06:48.540 And so also good for them.

00:06:51.380 Um, but as I will get into in just a second, um, I decided at the end after the Eagles won

00:06:58.380 that I am an Eagles fan and I was glad that they won because the coach gave glory to God.

00:07:05.940 And I think that we have that clip.

00:07:08.140 If we don't have that clip, we should make sure that we have it so I can play it.

00:07:11.080 And because it was really sweet how he just praised Jesus as he was trying to hold it

00:07:15.320 together in this monumental moment.

00:07:17.520 So we'll get into that in a second.

00:07:19.280 But first we'll get into some more, um, lighthearted things.

00:07:23.420 Let's get into our, you know what?

00:07:27.660 Let me actually, let me just go ahead and play since I, since I referenced it.

00:07:31.620 Let me just go ahead and play that really like beautiful moment.

00:07:34.500 This is one of many moments of people glorifying God and praising Jesus, um, before and after

00:07:39.160 the Superbowl.

00:07:40.040 But this is the moment that I referenced producer Brie said it saw 10.

00:07:43.700 So let's play saw 10.

00:07:45.420 Nick Superbowl champions.

00:07:48.400 What does the moment mean?

00:07:50.140 Man, God's blessed us very much.

00:07:52.820 Uh, he gave us all the talents to be able to get here.

00:07:56.320 So first and foremost, thanks to him.

00:07:58.700 And this is the ultimate team game.

00:08:01.880 You can't be great without the greatness of others.

00:08:04.140 And we, uh, great performance by everybody, offense, defense, special teams, how we get

00:08:11.240 us, the guys, our coaching staff, these great players.

00:08:15.120 We didn't really ever care what anyone thought about how we won or their opinions.

00:08:19.560 All we want to do is win.

00:08:21.540 That's why we listened to my prerogative a little bit when we were, uh, after some wins,

00:08:25.060 but thank God.

00:08:26.560 Thank you, Jesus.

00:08:27.340 That was, that was really sweet.

00:08:30.040 Um, I, when I was watching that, the interviewer said after that, he was like, yeah, we know

00:08:35.760 you're an emotional guy.

00:08:37.400 I was like, well, okay.

00:08:39.180 I mean, I was kind of like offended for him.

00:08:41.320 The coach didn't seem offended at all.

00:08:43.080 It's not a bad thing to show emotion.

00:08:45.140 And I thought that was just really beautiful that he took the opportunity to praise Jesus.

00:08:48.820 Okay.

00:08:49.160 Now let's get into some more lighthearted things.

00:08:53.580 Let's, um, well, I guess you could consider this lighthearted.

00:08:56.980 You could consider it sad.

00:08:58.380 You could consider it happy, but it is indicative, I think, of the so-called vibe shift that has

00:09:04.920 happened in this country.

00:09:06.840 Trump was at the Superbowl game and he was cheered.

00:09:10.220 Taylor Swift, the girlfriend of Chiefs player, Travis Kelsey was there and she was booed.

00:09:16.540 So here is Trump being cheered.

00:09:18.820 It's not one.

00:09:32.800 Okay.

00:09:33.380 It's kind of hard to tell, but he is being cheered when he is on camera and everyone sees him.

00:09:39.240 He's there saluting, looking very regal, patriotic might be the better adjective.

00:09:45.080 Everyone cheers so loudly.

00:09:47.740 And it's just like a really sweet, I think, unifying, happy moment.

00:09:52.280 And then Taylor Swift is also put up on the Jumbotron and she didn't get quite the reception

00:09:57.240 that President Trump did.

00:09:59.080 Here's not too.

00:09:59.640 Okay, I think I'm probably going to have a wide variety of opinions on that.

00:10:15.800 If you're just listening to this, she's like looking around, she's on the Jumbotron, she's

00:10:20.680 looking around like, uh, what is going on?

00:10:23.720 I'm not even sure if she knows that she is being booed in that moment.

00:10:28.040 She clearly feels awkward and I feel for her.

00:10:31.940 Maybe I shouldn't, but I do.

00:10:34.760 I do.

00:10:35.620 I just thought that this was kind of like unnecessary and rude.

00:10:39.960 Obviously, I really disagree with Taylor Swift politically.

00:10:43.660 I don't consider myself a Swifty at all.

00:10:46.960 But I didn't, I didn't understand why.

00:10:51.960 Is it just because people think that she is like distracted?

00:10:56.020 Um, Kelsey, like, do they, do they just think that she has turned the NFL into kind of like

00:11:03.580 a spectacle, trivialized it, made it about her somehow?

00:11:07.720 Or is it because she's a lib and a lot of people aren't libs anymore? 0.58

00:11:12.960 And people have a lot of growing disdain for libs and people who are anti-Trump.

00:11:17.360 And she was very vehemently anti-Trump during the campaign, just according to her post and

00:11:22.760 her endorsement of Kamala Harris and her outspokenness for child murder, abortion, and things like

00:11:31.340 quote unquote LGBTQ rights, including the so-called right of a man to go into girls' spaces.

00:11:38.680 Like all of those things I think are worth booing.

00:11:41.700 I don't know if she should be booed, like, at the Super Bowl.

00:11:47.020 She's just there supporting her boyfriend.

00:11:48.900 I don't know.

00:11:49.420 It just seemed like an odd and unnecessarily rude thing to me.

00:11:53.660 But you can tell me, you can tell me what you think in the comments.

00:11:57.800 Okay, we've got more.

00:11:59.020 I want to go through some of my favorite ads and some of my least favorite ads and tell you

00:12:03.740 what I think about them and what it says about the culture in general.

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00:13:40.040 Okay, so this Rocket ad was the, um, I don't actually, I don't even know if it was successful

00:13:51.840 because I don't even remember what Rocket is.

00:13:55.660 I guess when I re-watch this ad, I'll remember.

00:13:58.640 But I love Take Me Home Country Road.

00:14:00.960 It is, has been one of my favorite songs for a very long time.

00:14:05.760 And it will always be nostalgic.

00:14:08.180 I just love the South.

00:14:09.480 I loved going to college in the South.

00:14:11.860 And I just remember this song being played so much and I will never not love it.

00:14:17.880 So whenever I hear it, and it also reminds me of that scene in The Office between Andy

00:14:22.300 and Dwight.

00:14:23.220 So many songs that I love remind me of scenes from The Office.

00:14:27.620 Anyway, I thought that this was a very sweet pro-family, pro-community, just positive message

00:14:34.920 using John Denver's Take Me Home Country Road.

00:14:38.140 Here's top three.

00:14:39.480 Let's get you home.

00:14:43.440 Almost heaven.

00:14:46.160 West Virginia.

00:14:49.980 Blue Ridge Mountains.

00:14:53.300 Shenandoah River.

00:14:57.860 That's my little man.

00:14:58.920 That's your boy.

00:14:59.660 Yeah, I can't wait to get there, man.

00:15:01.180 Country roads.

00:15:02.180 Country roads.

00:15:03.180 Country roads.

00:15:04.140 Take me home.

00:15:07.460 To the place.

00:15:10.520 I love West Virginia.

00:15:14.620 I love Mama.

00:15:19.080 Take me home.

00:15:22.140 Country roads.

00:15:23.560 It says, everyone deserves their shot at the American dream.

00:15:28.400 No, I still don't know what rocket is.

00:15:31.060 If someone could tell me in the chat, in the, in our team chat, what rocket is, that would

00:15:37.240 be great.

00:15:37.600 I'm just curious.

00:15:38.360 But I loved that, that it's very pro-American dream, very sweet, very pro-life, pro-baby,

00:15:45.840 pro-future.

00:15:47.080 Just really beautiful and indicative of, I think, where the culture is and what the culture

00:15:51.920 wants to get back to.

00:15:53.560 Financial technology company that offers mortgage, real estate, and personal finance services.

00:15:58.240 Okay, that's rocket.

00:15:59.560 Good job, rocket.

00:16:00.480 And then Google had this really sweet job interview ad that was very heartwarming.

00:16:06.860 Here's that, it's up four.

00:16:07.980 When you're ready, tell me about the job that taught you the most.

00:16:13.660 Okay.

00:16:16.020 Well, it was a role where I learned to take constructive criticism.

00:16:20.560 I think she's like, oh, nope, doesn't like it.

00:16:22.620 Okay.

00:16:22.980 I got pretty used to, you know, working long hours with a small team.

00:16:27.540 All right, last question.

00:16:29.400 When it comes to work, what motivates you?

00:16:31.160 Here she goes.

00:16:35.020 I guess knowing that people can depend on me.

00:16:45.860 And knowing I can depend on them, too.

00:16:48.000 I'm trying not to sob.

00:16:59.900 That was really sweet.

00:17:00.700 So, again, if you're listening to this, this is a dad.

00:17:03.400 He's using Gemini AI on his Google phone to, like, take mock questions to get ready for

00:17:10.580 a job interview.

00:17:11.260 He's, like, he's doing job interviews because he's, I guess, just, I don't know if he's

00:17:16.480 been, like, a full-time dad, single dad, stay-at-home dad for the past however many years.

00:17:20.540 And all of the, I'm, like, literally about to cry that I'm explaining this.

00:17:24.180 Because I think about this all the time.

00:17:25.640 Like, parenting gives you so much experience.

00:17:28.280 Like, life experience, job experience, management experience, a time management experience.

00:17:33.980 Like, there's just so much.

00:17:35.480 There's so much that you learn from being a parent.

00:17:37.120 So, he's talking about, like, constructive feedback and all of these things that he learned.

00:17:41.640 But you see depictions of him being a dad over the years.

00:17:44.620 And that's what he's referring to, that he learned all of these skills while he was a

00:17:48.340 dad.

00:17:48.660 Now his daughter's going off to college.

00:17:50.220 And so, he's applying for a new job.

00:17:51.800 And it's just really sweet.

00:17:53.280 Okay.

00:17:54.160 DoorDash.

00:17:54.620 This one's funny.

00:17:55.380 I'm not going to cry.

00:17:56.040 This is Nate Bregazzi.

00:17:57.360 He's my favorite comedian for so many reasons.

00:17:59.360 I'll tell you why in just a second.

00:18:00.680 And I just thought this was a really funny commercial in his very trademark style.

00:18:04.580 Here's thought 23.

00:18:05.820 Nate, we need to talk about your finances.

00:18:08.020 My finances are fine.

00:18:09.620 With DashPass, I saved $6 on my grocery order.

00:18:12.300 So, I cloned myself.

00:18:14.100 Albuquerque.

00:18:14.920 Zero dollar delivery fees on dog toys.

00:18:17.100 I got me an opera singer that sings me compliments.

00:18:19.600 I think I'm taking it.

00:18:21.480 She's so nice.

00:18:22.760 DashPass savings equals.

00:18:25.220 Oh, yeah.

00:18:25.740 You need to stop spending.

00:18:30.240 You're not listening.

00:18:31.500 I'm saving.

00:18:34.600 I quit.

00:18:36.840 Okay.

00:18:37.460 I love Nate Bregazzi.

00:18:39.060 I, so I went to a Nate Bregazzi show a couple years ago when I had just heard of him.

00:18:43.000 I think Timothy and I saw, Chief Related Bro and I saw him on Netflix.

00:18:48.040 And we were like crying, laughing, watching his special.

00:18:51.980 So, so we saw him live and I don't think I have ever been to an event that is not my own event that I have run into as many relatable viewers and listeners as I did there.

00:19:05.460 Like the crossover, at least then, now he's become like this mega star with probably like just a wide array of people that watch him.

00:19:13.200 But like the crossover of Nate Bregazzi fans and relatable fans.

00:19:17.440 It was huge.

00:19:18.000 And it was super fun because he is a clean comic.

00:19:21.860 Like he doesn't cuss.

00:19:22.960 He doesn't talk about sex.

00:19:24.360 He doesn't do anything off color.

00:19:26.980 He doesn't, as far as I know, is not like explicitly talking about Christianity.

00:19:31.840 But he definitely doesn't make fun of Christianity.

00:19:35.560 And I think he actually is a Christian.

00:19:37.580 But he's not like what I would call a Christian comic, quote unquote.

00:19:42.800 He doesn't really get into politics.

00:19:44.480 Sometimes he just like makes fun of himself for not really understanding like assertions about climate change and things like that.

00:19:51.860 But he's just, he's very dry.

00:19:53.780 He's very funny.

00:19:54.480 And he has completely blown up in popularity over the past couple of years.

00:19:58.420 And he did this interview with Kevin Hart and this other guy from SNL.

00:20:03.380 I forget his name.

00:20:04.320 And they're trying to get him to cuss.

00:20:07.180 And he's like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that.

00:20:10.180 That's kind of like my whole thing.

00:20:11.760 And they just start dropping like F-bombs, MF, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:15.900 And he's just sitting there.

00:20:16.960 And I just thought, first of all, Kevin Hart, the reason that you have to rely,

00:20:21.400 the reason why anyone has to rely on crude language to tell a joke is because you're not actually funny.

00:20:27.600 You're not actually clever.

00:20:29.560 It's just shock value.

00:20:31.060 And people laugh because that's what they're used to.

00:20:33.580 Maybe they do think it's funny or they're just uncomfortable.

00:20:36.660 And Nate Bragazzi just kind of like sat there.

00:20:38.780 I just thought that was really rude.

00:20:40.400 That was completely inhospitable and uncalled for and unnecessary.

00:20:46.160 And I just appreciate that Nate Bragazzi, he's been on SNL.

00:20:49.680 He's, I think he has like a Las Vegas residency right now or something.

00:20:53.180 And obviously he's in a Super Bowl commercial and he has still stayed true to that, that

00:21:00.080 he has not compromised on what has become his brand, but started, I think, just like as

00:21:05.020 a value.

00:21:05.640 And that's really cool.

00:21:06.500 And I really appreciate that.

00:21:08.540 And we are going to see him again in just a few months.

00:21:11.500 And I'm pumped about it.

00:21:13.020 All right.

00:21:13.320 Now we have someone who is very confusing to me.

00:21:18.660 Snoop Dogg is everywhere.

00:21:20.180 And I did not, you know, people are talking about, oh, I didn't vote for Elon Musk.

00:21:24.820 You know, he's a part of the administration.

00:21:26.200 I did not vote for Snoop Dogg to be everywhere, to be in every commercial, to be on every show,

00:21:32.240 to be like the mascot for everything.

00:21:34.080 Like he was like the mascot for the Olympics.

00:21:36.520 And I'm like, okay, this is literally the guy that a few years ago made a music video

00:21:40.920 that depicted a like mock assassination of Donald Trump.

00:21:46.600 And now here he is in a commercial standing up against hate.

00:21:51.820 Top 5.

00:21:52.920 I hate you because we're from different neighborhoods. 0.99

00:21:55.140 I hate you because you look different. 1.00

00:21:57.000 I hate you because I don't understand you. 1.00

00:21:58.860 I hate you because people I know hate you. 1.00

00:22:01.000 I hate you because I think you hate me. 1.00

00:22:02.860 Because I need someone to blame. 1.00

00:22:04.420 Because you talk different.

00:22:05.500 Because you act different.

00:22:06.660 Because you're just different.

00:22:07.720 Man, I hate that things are so bad that we have to do a commercial about it.

00:22:17.860 Me too. 0.99

00:22:24.260 Silly. 1.00

00:22:26.360 Silly. 1.00

00:22:26.800 It's just silly that Snoop Dogg is the voice for that. 0.99

00:22:32.040 I don't, I just really don't understand it.

00:22:34.280 There's a lot of people who have a reputation for being like very loving and unifying.

00:22:38.260 I didn't know that Snoop Dogg was one of those people.

00:22:40.940 Can someone just like clue me in as to why he has become like the symbol of unity for the United States?

00:22:47.720 When again, he made that video just a few years ago.

00:22:50.460 And as far as I know, it's not like he's like asked forgiveness for that.

00:22:54.220 Okay.

00:22:55.460 We got a lot to talk about.

00:22:56.840 And so I'm not even, I'm not even going to play these next ones.

00:23:01.640 These are like my least favorite ones.

00:23:03.740 And there were two ads.

00:23:05.540 One by Nike.

00:23:06.520 One by NFL.

00:23:08.080 And the NFL was about, it was like depicted this girl.

00:23:12.880 It was like stereotypical 80s high school.

00:23:15.060 And it was a high school girl that was going up against a group of very strong and masculine, macho football, like male football players.

00:23:27.460 And it was flag football and they were like, yeah, you can't beat us.

00:23:32.920 And she was like, yeah, I can.

00:23:34.900 And then she played flag football against these guys and she beat all of them.

00:23:39.940 And they were like, we need flag football for girls to be made a varsity sport in all 50 states.

00:23:46.620 Why flag football?

00:23:47.860 Hey, if girls can beat guys as the NFL apparently thinks, then why not tackle football? 1.00

00:23:53.940 What's wrong with that?

00:23:55.120 I'm not against flag football for girls.

00:23:58.000 I think that's fine.

00:23:59.120 I think it would be great in all 50 states.

00:24:00.980 I think girls would probably really excel in that. 1.00

00:24:03.200 If they can play soccer, if they can play rugby, rugby is probably a lot more physical even than flag football, then that's fine.

00:24:10.920 I think girls in athletics is a good thing. 1.00

00:24:13.080 But why does it have to be that in order for a sport to be legitimate for girls, a girl has to be able to beat a boy? 1.00

00:24:22.540 Because that's what you just depicted in the NFL as a fantasy.

00:24:25.840 That would never happen.

00:24:27.400 Literally never happen anywhere on earth ever.

00:24:31.580 Would a 15-year-old girl be able to beat 15-year-old boys in a sport like soccer? 0.80

00:24:37.760 I mean, in a sport like football?

00:24:39.560 It would literally never happen.

00:24:41.800 Like, 15-year-old girls would probably have a hard time beating, like, 11-year-old boys.

00:24:48.720 Probably couldn't.

00:24:49.760 Literally, in flag football, I don't think 15-year-old girls could beat 11-year-old boys. 0.99

00:24:55.040 And so just say that you want sports for girls. 1.00

00:24:58.400 You don't need to have them in this, like, weird fantasy of being able to beat a boy in that game.

00:25:04.960 Because, again, it's impossible.

00:25:07.200 And then Nike has an ad that is promoting girls' sports, you know, promoting Caitlin Clark.

00:25:12.480 And they say, you can't put yourself, you, the narrator says, you can't put yourself first, so put yourself first.

00:25:20.700 I don't understand that.

00:25:22.020 You can't put yourself first, so put yourself first.

00:25:24.940 Okay.

00:25:26.480 Okay.

00:25:27.320 Good advice.

00:25:28.400 But just as a reminder, Nike has been anti-women for a very long time.

00:25:33.200 And their acceptance of trans ideology in 2020, Nike joined 142 businesses to support overturning a Tennessee bill

00:25:41.180 that would prevent male athletes from competing in girls' sports. 0.95

00:25:44.100 In 2023, Nike partnered with trans-identifying male Dylan Mulvaney to his, you know, 100 days of girlhood,

00:25:52.420 where he pretended to basically be, like, a 12-year-old girl as a grown 30-year-old man.

00:25:58.220 They partnered with him to promote their sports bras and female work attire.

00:26:01.740 So, spare me.

00:26:03.440 Spare me.

00:26:04.020 If anyone is oppressing women, taking opportunities away from women, it is you, Nike, through your promotion and acceptance.

00:26:11.180 Of transgender ideology and men in girls' sports.

00:26:15.180 All right.

00:26:15.660 We've got some good moments of Christian players praising God before, during, after the Super Bowl.

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00:27:26.620 There is a Christian sports media ministry called Sports Spectrum.

00:27:30.480 They created this compilation of Super Bowl athletes bringing glory to Jesus before the game.

00:27:35.940 Here's Saw 8.

00:27:37.360 Jesus is my Lord and Savior.

00:27:38.620 It's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I want to do with my life and how I want to live my life.

00:27:44.300 And so, Jesus is everything to me.

00:27:46.360 In my faith, this has always been a part of me where I've always wanted to root myself in that

00:27:52.720 and keep him in the center of my life and everything that I do.

00:27:55.380 He guides every decision that I make, and he has a love that's so forgiving.

00:27:59.760 You know, all my shortfallings, I know that he's there.

00:28:02.020 It's a weight lifted off your shoulder when you know you have that power.

00:28:04.180 I know that the Lord's gone through, he's gone through every single adversity that I could ever go through, you know, and he's dominated it.

00:28:08.840 I know I'm nothing without him, man, and I feel like it doesn't get any more simpler than that.

00:28:12.380 Nothing matters other than the serving God because all this, it goes away.

00:28:18.100 I love that.

00:28:20.560 And there were many others, too, but all of those were different players on each team talking about just who Jesus is,

00:28:28.860 why they want to glorify God with their lives, and I love that so much.

00:28:32.020 All right, let's talk about the halftime show for just a second.

00:28:35.020 I don't have that much to say about this.

00:28:37.040 I know people always have very strong opinions about the halftime show.

00:28:41.700 I don't really.

00:28:43.900 Okay, so Kendrick Lamar, he's a rapper.

00:28:46.480 You know, people debate all the time whether any artist is talented.

00:28:51.320 I do think that he is very talented.

00:28:53.880 It probably doesn't come as a surprise to you that I am not, like, an OG Kendrick Lamar fan.

00:28:59.600 Like, this is not what is playing in the, like, soundtrack of my life.

00:29:04.560 But I have listened to some of his music, and I do think that it's unique.

00:29:08.340 He is very, I think, lyrically gifted.

00:29:11.220 I find his lyrics to be very clever and interesting.

00:29:14.260 And if we're just going to have, like, a battle between Kendrick Lamar and Drake when it comes to that, 0.76

00:29:19.920 I find Drake's songs to be very sad and silly.

00:29:23.580 And again, I probably haven't listened to a Drake song since 2017.

00:29:27.560 And I find Kendrick Lamar's songs kind of scary, but interesting.

00:29:34.420 Interesting.

00:29:34.940 Like, I want to listen to the lyrics to try to figure out what he's saying.

00:29:37.980 And he had this whole diss track against Drake.

00:29:40.320 I guess they have some beef.

00:29:42.160 And that diss track became very popular.

00:29:45.460 And he's singing it at the Super Bowl show.

00:29:47.860 And, yeah, I guess some people liked it, and some people didn't.

00:29:53.060 Some people also thought that he was making fun of America.

00:29:56.620 Some people thought it was patriotic.

00:29:58.080 Like, if you see this picture, his dancers are in red, white, and blue.

00:30:01.740 He's in the middle.

00:30:03.360 And this is supposed to be, like, the American flag.

00:30:06.400 And some people are also saying the fact that he used Samuel L. Jackson,

00:30:12.040 dresses Uncle Sam, introducing Kendrick Lamar.

00:30:14.660 Like, that was a nod to America.

00:30:17.540 Other people are saying, no, this was actually saying that America has never really accepted

00:30:23.400 or understood, like, rap and hip-hop, which is a criticism that Kendrick Lamar has given before.

00:30:29.020 And Kendrick Lamar is not known as, like, a wholesome figure.

00:30:36.880 He did a couple years ago do this whole thing at one of his shows where he was dressed up

00:30:43.640 like Jesus with the crown of thorns with fake blood dripping down his face

00:30:48.540 and also saying, yeah, women's rights. 1.00

00:30:51.640 Here's Sot 9.

00:30:53.280 Guys be for women's rights. 0.98

00:30:55.100 They judge you.

00:30:55.860 They judge Christ.

00:30:56.980 Guys be for women's rights. 0.98

00:30:58.380 They judge you.

00:30:59.300 They judge Christ.

00:31:00.360 They judge me.

00:31:01.300 They judge Christ.

00:31:02.160 Or they judge you.

00:31:03.020 That's what I heard.

00:31:03.560 They judge you.

00:31:04.300 They judge Christ.

00:31:05.600 Godspeed for women's rights. 1.00

00:31:06.960 And this was right after the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

00:31:09.860 I mean, just the utter blasphemy of that.

00:31:14.320 I don't think that we should give Kendrick Lamar the benefit of the doubt in his Super Bowl show

00:31:18.800 that he was actually, like, saying that America is awesome.

00:31:22.040 However, there are some positive aspects of it.

00:31:24.100 Like, we didn't see a bunch of, like, scantily clad women or sexually perverse dancing. 1.00

00:31:32.540 There was nothing about LGBTQ.

00:31:34.980 And since it was up for interpretation, it wasn't, like, blatantly anti-America.

00:31:42.080 It's fine.

00:31:42.600 It's fine.

00:31:42.980 I don't really have that much else to say about that.

00:31:44.940 So there we go.

00:31:46.340 All right.

00:31:46.640 Let's talk about something much more important that people always ask me about every year

00:31:50.220 that I think I've given a monologue on for the past few years.

00:31:54.560 And that is more my past episodes, past years have given a more thorough rebuttal for the

00:32:01.620 He Gets Us campaign.

00:32:03.060 And so I would go back and listen to some of those things because, honestly, it's a little

00:32:07.080 bit repetitive.

00:32:07.840 I feel the same way this year as I've always felt about He Gets Us.

00:32:11.560 And so for my past commentary on it, just go.

00:32:14.640 You can type in Relatable He Gets Us wherever you listen or on YouTube, and the monologues

00:32:19.540 will come up.

00:32:20.660 But He Gets Us had another ad at the Super Bowl this year, and I thought it posed the same

00:32:26.340 issues, had the same problems as years past.

00:32:29.580 And here is part of that ad.

00:32:31.240 It's at 12.

00:32:41.560 Your own personal Jesus.

00:32:49.540 Someone to hear your prayers.

00:32:52.820 Someone who's there.

00:33:01.340 Feeling unknown and you're all alone.

00:33:04.660 Okay, so this is Jesus showing us what greatness really is.

00:33:10.700 It's a bunch of depictions of people, like, being there for each other, feeling deeply for

00:33:14.460 someone else, helping someone who either looks like them or doesn't look like them.

00:33:18.400 You've got someone at a pride parade being hugged by a person wearing a John 316 hat.

00:33:23.960 You've got someone, like, washing off some graffiti on a wall that says, go back.

00:33:32.420 And apparently this is supposed to be about Jesus.

00:33:35.300 And the tagline is, He Gets Us, All of Us.

00:33:38.680 This was an ad created by Lerma.

00:33:40.480 This is a creative advertising agency who has created the previous He Gets Us ads, and

00:33:45.580 we'll get into that in just a second.

00:33:47.460 I'll tell you my specific thoughts about this campaign and this ad in a moment.

00:33:51.460 But just as a refresher of the background of He Gets Us, like, where is this coming from?

00:33:55.960 This is the only explicitly, if you could even call it that, explicitly Christian ad at

00:34:01.560 the Super Bowl.

00:34:02.840 And so I think it's worth looking at, well, who created it and why?

00:34:07.800 So He Gets Us launched in 2022.

00:34:10.840 It was their first Super Bowl ad appeared at Super Bowl 57 in 2023.

00:34:17.720 In its first year, He Gets Us reportedly cost $100 million, their ad campaign.

00:34:23.120 It was funded by the Signature.

00:34:24.520 And it wasn't, I think that's kind of wrong to say it was funded by the Signature, because

00:34:29.660 a Christian, it's just a Christian donor-advised fund.

00:34:32.580 And so it wasn't funded by the Signature.

00:34:35.000 It was funded by donors who donated through the Signature.

00:34:40.060 But the Signature is a company that promises to channel its contributors' dollars into biblically

00:34:46.700 responsible investments.

00:34:48.640 And so that year, it actually caught a lot of flack from progressives in the media because

00:34:54.040 of their ties to the Signature and because the Signature donates, or so these people said.

00:35:01.800 So these angry activists said, donates millions of dollars to Alliance Defending Freedom.

00:35:06.860 You guys know what ADF is.

00:35:08.680 The left paints it as anti-LGBTQ, hateful, all of this stuff, even though they're just fighting

00:35:14.920 for religious liberty or First Amendment rights.

00:35:18.520 And so because of that connection, a lot of people on the left were angry. 0.98

00:35:25.180 But this is a really stupid controversy because, as I have already alluded to, a donor-advised 0.93

00:35:29.780 fund, they're not just, they're not actually donating their own dollars to these organizations. 0.97

00:35:37.540 A donor-advised fund is taking the donor funds from donors, and they are donating it to the

00:35:45.040 cause that the donors say that they want to donate to.

00:35:48.740 You can do that through Fidelity.

00:35:50.380 There are a lot of secular corporations that would allow you to donate your funds to Christian

00:35:55.280 or non-Christian organizations through them.

00:35:58.840 This just happens to be an explicitly Christian company that works with Christians.

00:36:03.500 Also, the first year of the campaign, you had the Hobby Lobby founders.

00:36:08.400 They were a part of it, and according to the left, there's controversy surrounding the Green

00:36:16.120 family because Hobby Lobby fought to not have to supply their employees with abortifacient

00:36:24.020 birth control, which, of course, he gets us now, though, is run by a nonprofit group

00:36:30.460 called Come Near.

00:36:31.500 They took over the He Gets Us campaign in 2024, and they took over the funding and the oversight

00:36:39.840 of the marketing campaign, and that is probably where a lot of the, I would say most of the

00:36:49.760 direction and the content has come from, in addition to He Gets Us using the Lerma ad agency.

00:36:59.040 So the Lerma ad agency is a far-left, pro-LGBTQ ad agency, and it's a very strange choice for

00:37:09.180 any Christian campaign.

00:37:11.640 Whether you agree with their content or their strategy or not, it is a very weird choice to

00:37:17.380 choose a pro-LGBTQ, pro-secularism, far-left ad agency.

00:37:22.860 There are Christian ad agencies.

00:37:24.460 There are conservative ad agencies.

00:37:26.720 There are more apolitical ad agencies, but they chose Lerma ad agency.

00:37:33.140 They say that their focus is on inclusive marketing for diverse audiences to navigate today's

00:37:43.200 complex consumer landscape.

00:37:45.700 We understand the euphemisms being used there.

00:37:49.380 They want to heavily promote, quote-unquote, LGBTQIA plus visibility in marketing.

00:37:56.880 When it came to He Gets Us, they said that they are using the confrontation of Jesus.

00:38:05.420 They're heading confrontation.

00:38:07.860 So this is their overview of the campaign.

00:38:10.320 Quote, He Gets Us tells the story of Jesus through a modern lens, but it doesn't even really

00:38:15.020 do that.

00:38:15.560 It's not even telling the story of Jesus to demonstrate the way he fought for radical love

00:38:20.660 and inclusion.

00:38:21.780 So the company that made this campaign, that's what they're saying, this is who Jesus is,

00:38:28.740 which, of course, is not the biblical definition of Jesus.

00:38:31.880 Yes, radical love, not radical inclusion, in that He said, the way to heaven is very narrow.

00:38:39.280 The way to death and to hell is very wide.

00:38:42.480 And John 14, 6, only those who come through me will make it to the Father.

00:38:49.860 The way, the truth, the life, no one comes to the Father except through me.

00:38:54.200 And so it depends on what you mean by inclusion.

00:38:57.880 Yes, He loved the world, as John 3, 16 said, but He also told everyone that He came into

00:39:05.980 contact with to go and sin no more, to repent of their sin, to take up their cross and follow

00:39:11.940 Christ.

00:39:12.860 The campaign has garnered 4.8 million website users, 1.4 billion video views, and 196 million

00:39:20.620 digital media engagement numbers are growing daily.

00:39:25.140 So a little bit more about Lerma.

00:39:27.620 If you look at their Instagram page, for example, they've got a post that says,

00:39:31.860 Brands with Pride, a brief history of LGBTQIA plus visibility in advertising.

00:39:37.380 And one of their posts mentioned this 2015 ad by Gillette that promoted a so-called transgender

00:39:45.760 teen shaving for the first time.

00:39:48.420 That's really hard to believe that that was 2015, because I remember that.

00:39:53.900 And I'm pretty sure that was just a couple years ago, but their page does say that that

00:39:57.620 was 2015.

00:39:58.800 And so that's what Lerma believes, who is behind He Gets Us.

00:40:03.620 Also, if you look at He Gets Us, their own website, when they're asked about things like

00:40:09.660 the FAQ section, asked about their stance on the LGBTQ community, they say, Jesus loves

00:40:17.220 gay people.

00:40:17.860 He loves trans people. 0.92

00:40:19.380 I already have like a problem with that language, especially trans people, because no one is 1.00

00:40:24.040 truly transgender.

00:40:26.380 You can't actually transition from one gender or one sex to the other. 0.84

00:40:30.340 It's not possible.

00:40:31.300 And so already they're adopting just deceitful language that could actually affirm and validate

00:40:37.760 someone's sin and the lies that they believe.

00:40:41.500 They say, no matter who you are, you are invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider what

00:40:46.020 it means for your life.

00:40:47.680 Well, that's not the gospel.

00:40:49.260 It's not even close to the gospel.

00:40:51.480 It's not even introducing someone to the gospel.

00:40:54.260 It's not even talking.

00:40:55.580 I'm not even saying it has to be fire and brimstone.

00:40:58.060 But it's not even offering a little bit of their need for a savior, which I think is

00:41:04.460 pretty important to articulate because there's not good news unless you understand the bad

00:41:08.680 news.

00:41:09.020 And the bad news is that we are sinners in need of a savior, that we are dead in sin apart

00:41:14.480 from Christ.

00:41:15.340 And again, I'm not saying that you have to say that in some like mean, violent way, but

00:41:19.420 it should be clear, or at least at the very least, low bar here, like implied, who does

00:41:25.920 He Gets Us believe Jesus is?

00:41:30.580 They say that they include people in this project who believe lots of different things about

00:41:37.100 Jesus.

00:41:38.260 And they say He Gets Us is a project under Come Near, a nonprofit startup who believed that

00:41:43.660 Jesus was human and divine, rose from the dead, and more.

00:41:47.020 And so again, just very vague.

00:41:49.840 And they talk about on their website that Jesus defined true greatness in a very different

00:41:54.640 way.

00:41:54.940 He showed that the greatest thing that we could be is in humble service to others, which

00:42:00.940 is not completely true.

00:42:03.100 Again, the world already believes that Jesus was just a moral teacher.

00:42:07.960 The world already believes that He was some like hippie, dippy, loving guy who said true

00:42:14.580 things and told us to live gentler and more service-minded lives.

00:42:20.940 People already believe that.

00:42:22.660 And these ads just seem to affirm this idea of Jesus being a moralistic hippie teacher who

00:42:30.740 has nothing to offer you beyond just some better rules for life.

00:42:38.320 Natasha Crane has talked about, written about He Gets Us very many times.

00:42:42.640 She's got a lot of good thoughts in her rebuttal to He Gets Us.

00:42:47.240 I can't read the entire thing she posted on Acts.

00:42:50.300 I'll read you some of it.

00:42:51.960 I thought she pointed out some really good points here because I get a lot of pushback

00:42:56.060 saying, okay, but it's not actually harmful.

00:42:58.900 It might not be perfect, but we should nitpick it.

00:43:01.360 We should just be glad that Christians are even given any kind of platform.

00:43:06.220 And so I just want to read you part of what she says.

00:43:08.140 So she says, these ads are actually incredibly harmful to the cause of evangelism because

00:43:12.520 the campaign reinforces what culture wants to believe about Jesus while leaving out what

00:43:16.760 culture doesn't want to believe.

00:43:18.740 Culture's wrong ideas about Jesus become more deeply seeded due to a campaign like this.

00:43:23.780 It simply makes it harder for biblically faithful Christians to share about the real Jesus,

00:43:28.700 a Jesus people often don't want to hear about.

00:43:32.420 And I think that's a really good point.

00:43:35.680 She also says the ad centers around a question that is problematic in and of itself, which

00:43:44.020 means like, what does it mean to be great?

00:43:47.240 She says that they say that loving others is what He Gets Us says means to be great.

00:43:55.440 But the truth is, is that loving others according to scripture is second to loving God.

00:44:01.900 And in order for it to be great, it must be an outflow of our love for God, which He Gets

00:44:08.120 Us really just dismisses or ignores altogether.

00:44:11.800 She also points out that the immigration and LGBTQ references slightly promote a progressive

00:44:17.280 agenda, which is true.

00:44:18.440 You never really see the reverse.

00:44:20.160 Like they have this historically, theologically inaccurate ad saying that like Jesus was a

00:44:26.000 refugee or Jesus was an immigrant and He wasn't. 0.99

00:44:29.400 But you never see it like the other way.

00:44:32.400 You never see sly implications of conservatives or Christians being the ones who are being 0.89

00:44:42.140 the ones who are victimized.

00:44:44.040 And she also mentions Natasha at the end of her post that she believes that the ambiguity

00:44:49.120 and all of this is intended.

00:44:51.400 And I completely agree with that.

00:44:54.080 And that kind of leads to my big problems with these campaigns.

00:44:58.080 One, it misses the point of Jesus.

00:45:00.400 All of these ads miss the point of Jesus.

00:45:03.120 Like I watch them every year, truly wanting to be on board with them, truly feeling like,

00:45:09.320 okay, maybe they'll get it right this year.

00:45:11.740 Maybe they will get close to it.

00:45:13.780 I'm not looking for someone to like play an ad that's a 60 second sermon from Jonathan

00:45:20.840 Edwards.

00:45:21.220 Like I'm not, I'm not looking for that.

00:45:23.800 I'm not looking for something that is perfect.

00:45:26.220 I'm not looking for someone necessarily to go up there and articulate the Roman road.

00:45:31.440 I don't think that would, or the Romans road.

00:45:33.360 I don't think that would be bad, but I'm looking for something that would lead people to the cross.

00:45:39.540 I'm looking for an accurate depiction of Jesus.

00:45:41.920 I am looking for at least the implication that, hey, all of this brokenness and this messed

00:45:48.940 up stuff that you see inside of yourself out in the world, there is redemption from that.

00:45:53.880 There is salvation from that.

00:45:56.020 You are not enough.

00:45:58.040 You are insufficient.

00:45:59.560 You're always trying to measure up, but you're always trying to find happiness.

00:46:03.220 I mean, wasn't that Tom Brady, what he said famously a few years ago, he's got all this

00:46:07.640 stuff in the world that he never feels like it's quite enough, like all of that that you

00:46:11.340 feel that is not enough.

00:46:13.780 Like there's a reason for that.

00:46:15.440 It's because you are made in God's image.

00:46:17.340 You are made to need a savior.

00:46:19.260 Like here's Jesus and do a website.

00:46:22.960 Here's Jesus.com.

00:46:24.000 And like, if you just wanted to do that, if you wanted to leave like a cliffhanger, I would

00:46:28.500 say, okay, that is better.

00:46:30.940 But the ambiguity, the vagueness, and I think the outright misrepresentation of who Jesus

00:46:37.960 is, is actually very damaging and could possibly push people further away from Jesus.

00:46:43.880 And again, just reaffirm what the world already believes about Jesus, that he's just like a

00:46:49.980 good guy, that cheer, that cheer leads us, and that he was an activist like us, that

00:46:58.180 he was a renegade, that he was an outcast, that he was a sympathizer, that he was a refugee. 0.66

00:47:03.100 It is true that he was some of these things, not all of these things, but he was some of

00:47:07.560 these things, but he is never in any of these ads presented as what he also is, what he very

00:47:15.800 importantly is, which is King, Savior, Lord, and God.

00:47:21.120 And I would think that that would be important.

00:47:23.340 If you want to reach people with the gospel, not just tell them like how to be happier or

00:47:27.920 to lead a better life, because that's not why Jesus came.

00:47:31.400 But if you wanted to save their souls, if you wanted to soften their hearts for the gospel,

00:47:35.840 you would think that they would, at the very least, try to depict Jesus accurately.

00:47:41.040 And then the second big thing that I have a problem with is that they choose confusion

00:47:45.860 over clarity.

00:47:47.200 I think a lot of people, Christian or not, they're watching it and they're like, what's

00:47:50.900 the point of this ad?

00:47:52.800 Like, again, I'm looking for the point.

00:47:55.160 I want to love it.

00:47:56.920 I do.

00:47:57.460 I don't want to be a hater.

00:48:00.740 But there's so much vagueness and so much ambiguity that it's not helpful.

00:48:06.000 So like, what's the point of the ad?

00:48:07.420 Is the point that we should love others that look differently than us? 0.98

00:48:09.920 Okay, then make it about that.

00:48:11.600 Just say that.

00:48:13.860 But if the ad is that Christianity is true, that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, 0.64

00:48:20.500 that we are sinners in need of a Savior, then no one got that.

00:48:24.280 No one got anywhere close to that.

00:48:27.040 If it is just that God loves you and cares for you, which is what a lot of people have

00:48:30.760 argued to me, that that's what it's about, make it about that.

00:48:34.740 Say that.

00:48:35.680 Say God loves you and cares for you, not he gets you.

00:48:38.720 It is true that he made us and that he is a high priest that sympathizes with our weaknesses,

00:48:44.900 but that is not the primary focus of who Jesus is.

00:48:49.800 That's not what we see in the Gospels.

00:48:51.400 That's not what we see in his ministry.

00:48:53.000 He is not primarily concerned at all, if at all, with us understanding that he gets us.

00:49:00.040 He is primarily concerned with us understanding who he is, who God the Father is, and what

00:49:08.720 we need to do in order to be saved.

00:49:12.820 And we don't get anywhere close to that in the he gets us ads.

00:49:17.100 My thought is that if you have 30 to 60 seconds of airtime and millions of dollars, share the

00:49:23.040 Gospel, the Word of God does not return void.

00:49:26.160 You would never fail by just saying the Word of God.

00:49:31.580 And maybe you say, oh, we can't put Bible verses in there.

00:49:34.460 It can't be explicit.

00:49:36.980 We have to just like hint at it, then hint at it.

00:49:40.040 I didn't see any hinting of the Gospel in any of these ads.

00:49:43.720 What if it was a 60-second depiction of the prodigal son, or a shepherd seeking the lost

00:49:50.340 sheep, or even if you modernized this, but it was like a modern depiction of a parable

00:49:57.480 that Jesus told.

00:49:58.680 Like, I would be happier with that because, again, it would seem to me like we are going

00:50:02.860 in the right direction.

00:50:05.100 But the mentality behind this is a mentality that a lot of Christians suffer from, and that

00:50:10.640 is that Jesus and Christians need help with PR, that the reason that Christians aren't 1.00

00:50:16.780 liked, the reason that Jesus is misunderstood is because of bad, legalistic, pharisaical 0.74

00:50:25.500 Christians who care too much about sin and are just too mean. 1.00

00:50:30.740 But the truth is Christianity doesn't have a PR problem. 0.98

00:50:34.480 The world has always hated Jesus, and because of that, the world has always hated Christians. 1.00

00:50:39.400 Matthew 10, 22 says, and you will be hated by all for my name's sake.

00:50:45.660 John 3, 16 says that God so loved the world, and that was actually, you saw that on a hat

00:50:52.100 in the ad.

00:50:53.380 But then after that, a few verses later, John 3, 19 says this, the light has come into the

00:50:59.780 world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works are evil.

00:51:06.720 So yes, we should be the aroma of Christ.

00:51:11.100 We should lead people to the cross.

00:51:13.060 We should be as persuasive as we possibly can through our lives, through our words, absolutely.

00:51:20.720 But just reaffirming and validating what nonbelievers already think about this powerless Jesus, I

00:51:28.860 don't think, is leaving people there.

00:51:30.480 Now, my hope and my prayer is that someone would be led to Christ through this, through

00:51:38.920 imperfect means.

00:51:40.020 We have been entrusted with the gospel, which means we are always going to be imperfect

00:51:43.740 vessels of God's message of salvation.

00:51:47.440 And I have heard stories.

00:51:48.780 Some of you have told me, like, your non-Christian friend, your lukewarm friend, their interest was

00:51:53.600 piqued by these ads.

00:51:54.820 They went onto the website, and they read about them, or, you know, they read about He

00:51:59.840 Gets Us, or they chatted with someone, and they heard the real gospel.

00:52:02.720 And I praise God for that, and I pray for that, and I hope that that is successful.

00:52:08.900 But if that is successful, if people hear the gospel and become saved through this, it will

00:52:14.340 be not because of the failings of He Gets Us, the theological shortcomings of He Gets Us,

00:52:20.400 but despite them, and because God is good, and He's going to save who He wants to save,

00:52:24.720 even through imperfect means.

00:52:26.840 And so I pray that, and coincidentally, that is also my prayer for this new, like, White 1.00

00:52:32.900 House faith office that Donald Trump has established and is being spearheaded by heretical 0.99

00:52:38.680 teacher Paula White.

00:52:39.860 So I'll get into some of that in just a second.

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00:53:48.400 Last week, President Trump announced that he has created a new White House faith office.

00:53:52.120 He appointed pastor, so-called Paula White, to lead this organization.

00:53:57.260 Here's Top 15.

00:53:57.920 This week, I'm also creating the White House faith office, led by Pastor Paula White, who

00:54:04.480 is so amazing.

00:54:09.480 Okay.

00:54:10.200 So they've been friends for a long time.

00:54:11.960 This doesn't really surprise me.

00:54:15.080 I will tell their story and how they first met and all of that.

00:54:20.080 But she has been in his life for a very long time.

00:54:23.280 And she has been his faith advisor for a long time.

00:54:27.020 And I posted in 2019, I didn't know that I posted this, but I said, Paula White is a

00:54:32.920 horrifyingly false teacher who peddles the damning prosperity gospel.

00:54:37.100 Mr. President, please hit me up if you'd like some better suggestions.

00:54:41.300 And so I said it then.

00:54:42.640 And the only reason I remember this is because I started getting notifications for people

00:54:46.140 liking this.

00:54:48.520 But this is still true.

00:54:50.840 Now, I don't expect for Trump to think the same things that we do about Paula White.

00:54:56.920 I do think Paula White is a conservative.

00:54:58.700 I think she's been a big supporter of President Trump.

00:55:00.860 I'm sure she has said things that are true.

00:55:03.400 And I am sure that he feels like a lot of just a lot of loyalty to her because they've

00:55:12.360 known each other for so long.

00:55:14.340 And she's been such a big part of his administrations.

00:55:16.840 But we do need to just be very clear on who she is.

00:55:20.820 Again, this can be one of those things where we are praying for her.

00:55:25.140 We're praying for President Trump.

00:55:26.500 We pray for the White House faith office and whatever they're going to accomplish.

00:55:30.500 I'm not completely sure on what the agenda is.

00:55:32.820 We can pray that God would use imperfect means and imperfect people to accomplish his will because

00:55:39.740 we already see that he's doing that through President Trump.

00:55:42.800 And so that's my hope and prayer in the White House faith office.

00:55:45.620 I pray that there would be solid Christians in it.

00:55:47.560 And I pray that good, righteous things would be accomplished on behalf of the country,

00:55:51.520 on behalf of God's people.

00:55:52.960 Yes and amen.

00:55:54.020 So again, not a hater.

00:55:55.940 I think we just need to be really clear, according to the standards of God's word,

00:56:00.000 who Paula White is, who her background is, and what kind of leadership we can probably

00:56:05.960 expect from her.

00:56:06.920 So who is Paula White Cain and how did she get connected with Trump?

00:56:11.800 She is a televangelist.

00:56:13.160 She is what's known as a prosperity gospel.

00:56:15.660 And I will explain more of what that means.

00:56:17.640 And I'll give you some examples of that.

00:56:19.360 But health and wealth in general, that means this is like TBJ because it's Joel Osteen,

00:56:24.080 people who make you believe that if you do something for God, then he will do something

00:56:28.960 for you in return.

00:56:30.120 And if you keep these precepts, then he will reward you with financial compensation, material

00:56:36.360 wealth, and health.

00:56:38.460 And there's typically some kind of tie of the charismatic movement into this, the belief

00:56:44.360 that basically you are entitled to, as a Christian, access to perfect health and to financial

00:56:52.260 success.

00:56:54.000 She says that she received a vision when she was around 18 that she was going to preach

00:56:59.300 the gospel to the world.

00:57:02.080 She has been married three times from what we understand from reporting at the time.

00:57:08.820 She had an affair with her first husband, with a pastor at the church that they were attending.

00:57:13.680 She ended up getting married to him, and then she divorced him in 2007.

00:57:19.800 We don't really know all the reasons for that.

00:57:21.820 And she married Jonathan Cain.

00:57:23.480 He was a member of the band Journey, writer of their iconic song, Don't Stop Believin'.

00:57:29.180 Which is pretty cool, whatever else you think about him.

00:57:32.600 She got into evangelism and televangelism in 2000.

00:57:38.120 So she had already kind of like started her ministry as a co-pastor, I believe with her

00:57:42.340 second husband.

00:57:43.640 But then in 2000, she was invited by prosperity preacher T.D.

00:57:47.800 Jakes to preach at one of the conferences, and however you went viral back in 2000, that's

00:57:53.640 kind of what happened with her talk then.

00:57:56.240 She's very articulate.

00:57:57.620 She is very charismatic in just like the personality sense, and she's a very good, powerful speaker.

00:58:04.540 So I understand her popularity from that perspective.

00:58:10.420 White has described T.D.

00:58:11.520 Jakes as her spiritual father.

00:58:12.980 She reportedly sent him a black convertible Bentley for his 50th birthday in 2007.

00:58:17.960 Okay.

00:58:19.400 She was also like, we won't get into all of this, but she made a lot of money as like 0.99

00:58:25.360 a co-pastor with her second husband.

00:58:27.660 She made a lot of money through her televangelism, through the TV shows that she had.

00:58:32.220 She had a TV show with BET.

00:58:34.520 Okay.

00:58:35.260 In 2001.

00:58:36.020 Isn't that interesting?

00:58:36.840 With BET where she made a lot of money from that. 0.99

00:58:38.920 So I guess that's how she got the money to reportedly send T.D.

00:58:42.460 Jakes a Bentley for his 50th birthday.

00:58:44.760 So just a little bit about T.D.

00:58:46.240 Jakes, because this tells us who Paula White is.

00:58:48.700 And T.D.

00:58:49.100 Jakes, again, is apparently her spiritual father.

00:58:51.600 He is a popular megachurch pastor in Dallas, Texas.

00:58:54.740 I think that you've probably heard his name floating around with some rappers.

00:58:59.460 I'll leave it there because we don't know how much is actually true.

00:59:04.480 But there's a lot about the kind of life that he has lived out there.

00:59:09.480 But I'll kind of focus on his teaching.

00:59:11.360 So he has said, for example, prosperity is a mindset.

00:59:15.460 Whatever you say to yourself is what will manifest.

00:59:18.980 Okay.

00:59:19.180 That's new age nonsense. 0.64

00:59:21.360 That's not Christianity. 1.00

00:59:23.120 God already has a plan and a purpose for your life, but it is up to you to believe in his plans.

00:59:29.340 He also has said, if you obey God, you will never be broke another day in your life, which, of course, is not necessarily true.

00:59:39.820 I mean, if you just look at the lives of the apostles, if you think about all of the Christians that exist around the world in Yemen, in China, in North Korea, they don't have money. 0.69

00:59:51.500 Are they just not believing in God for their financial wealth?

00:59:54.660 Is that why they haven't gotten a promotion at the slave factory where they're working in those countries? 0.99

01:00:00.840 Like, that is not a biblical principle.

01:00:03.640 In fact, we are promised by Jesus that in this world, you will have trouble.

01:00:08.080 But take heart, for I have overcome the world.

01:00:10.520 Not take heart, but if you have enough faith, I will give you lots of money.

01:00:13.880 So it's not only a very, like, America-centric gospel that someone like T.D. Jakes is preaching.

01:00:19.140 It's just not true.

01:00:20.240 It is a false gospel.

01:00:21.780 It is for itching ears.

01:00:23.580 It is not for people who want to take up their cross and follow Christ.

01:00:26.900 Money is not bad.

01:00:28.580 Wealth may very well come into your life.

01:00:31.300 And there are principles that you can follow that I do think lend themselves to success and financial responsibility and prosperity.

01:00:41.320 Absolutely.

01:00:42.000 I think the Proverbs really give us kind of like a road map to that in some ways.

01:00:47.100 But they are principles.

01:00:48.000 They are not promises.

01:00:49.460 We are not promised health and wealth in this life because we live in this broken world.

01:00:55.020 And we can look forward to perfect peace and perfection in all ways and future glory, not here in this life.

01:01:01.540 So in the early 2000s, when she was preaching on TV, Trump saw her preaching on television, called her out of the blue, says, you have the it factor.

01:01:11.900 And they've remained close over the years.

01:01:14.280 She has served as a personal spiritual advisor to Trump.

01:01:17.340 Even, you know, back in 2011, when he was contemplating running as president, like she was a part of that, praying for him, advising him.

01:01:28.760 She has had some financial investigation, some financial sketchiness over the years, according to the Gospel Coalition.

01:01:37.840 However, in 2016, despite the fact that she used her various ministries and her church to reportedly rake in millions of dollars,

01:01:48.580 and despite some of the sermons that she has given about the guarantee of financial prosperity,

01:01:54.600 she claims that she is not a prosperity preacher.

01:01:59.440 Christianity, the Christian Post said, you've been described as a gospel preacher.

01:02:03.960 What are your thoughts?

01:02:04.920 And she says all the right things.

01:02:06.640 She says, I believe in Jesus.

01:02:08.240 I believe in the inerrant word of God.

01:02:09.920 I've been accused of believing the prosperity gospel.

01:02:13.220 I don't preach it.

01:02:14.820 She said, I am always talking about overcoming your struggles and the lessons God teaches us in valleys he allows us to enter.

01:02:22.740 However, if you look just on her website, just like right now, you can see key doctrines of the heretical prosperity gospel.

01:02:31.580 And it's this idea that Christians give in order to gain material payback or compensation from God. 0.92

01:02:38.980 So, for example, on her website, 2025 is a year of fruitfulness, blessing, and abundance for you.

01:02:44.040 It all begins with God's first fruits.

01:02:46.860 Are you ready to go to the next level in your finances?

01:02:49.860 Are you ready to be able to do the next level ministry?

01:02:52.280 Do you have next level dreams that require financial favor and acceleration?

01:02:56.900 When we honor God with our first fruits, we will unlock the things for the remainder of the year.

01:03:03.320 And in faith, 2025 will be a year of fruitfulness, blessing, and abundance for you.

01:03:07.620 I declare fruitfulness, abundance, and favor over you right now.

01:03:13.200 And here, by the way, here are your first fruits.

01:03:15.880 Donate here.

01:03:17.020 Link.

01:03:18.100 Donate to me.

01:03:19.840 Give me your money.

01:03:21.780 And that's your first fruit.

01:03:23.300 And then God will unlock blessings for you.

01:03:26.160 She posted this on Acts, January 2024.

01:03:28.980 When we honor God with our first fruits, he will unlock everything for the remainder of the year.

01:03:33.440 Your 2024 will be a year of God's power and authority.

01:03:38.920 The truth is that God doesn't owe us.

01:03:40.640 He doesn't promise financial compensation for our generosity.

01:03:43.980 In fact, it's not really generosity at all when we do it to receive something in return.

01:03:50.200 2 Corinthians 9-7 says,

01:03:52.420 Don't give under compulsion, but be a cheerful giver.

01:03:56.000 And when you go back a couple verses, you do see this idea of sowing and reaping,

01:04:01.900 sowing and generosity.

01:04:03.440 And reaping.

01:04:05.400 But he's not talking about paying a millionaire your hard-earned money.

01:04:10.520 He is talking about generosity to the church, taking care of persecuted Christians,

01:04:15.920 taking care of ministers to the gospel.

01:04:19.680 Okay, let's go through some examples of the false teaching.

01:04:25.720 There is one from 2023 where she tells the Jerusalem Post that we should not be evangelizing to Jews.

01:04:35.740 She says,

01:04:36.400 I do not want to convert Jews or send them to live in Israel for the rapture. 1.00

01:04:41.600 The plan for salvation for the Jews is God's.

01:04:43.960 And so actually, this is not just her.

01:04:46.000 There are many people probably considered dispensationalists who believe that you should not evangelize to Jewish people.

01:04:52.360 But again, that is not biblical.

01:04:54.280 For example, when we read Romans 9, 2-5, Paul says,

01:04:58.280 He has great sorrow and unceasing anguish in his heart, for he wishes that he could cut himself off from Christ for the sake of his brothers.

01:05:07.880 He means the Jewish people.

01:05:09.580 They are Israelites, and to them belong all of these things, the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law.

01:05:15.020 But they don't have Christ.

01:05:18.700 And so without that, we do not have salvation.

01:05:22.060 Whether you are a Jew or a Gentile, the only way, the only truth, the only life is through Jesus Christ. 0.92

01:05:29.700 Jesus himself makes that very clear in John 14, 6.

01:05:34.200 She also repeats this idea of seed money.

01:05:38.860 This idea that you pay some money, and then you'll get all of this stuff back.

01:05:43.540 Here's thought 16.

01:05:44.300 Right now, I want you, and there's someone that God is speaking to, to click on that donation button by minimizing the screen.

01:05:52.180 And when you do to sow $1,144, it's not often I ask very specifically.

01:05:59.380 But God has instructed me, and I want you to hear, this isn't for everyone, but this is for someone.

01:06:04.220 When you sow that $1,144 based on John 11, verse 44, I believe for resurrection life.

01:06:11.880 Say, Pastor Paul, I just don't have that.

01:06:14.300 Then sow $144.

01:06:16.660 I don't have that.

01:06:18.220 Sow $44.

01:06:19.620 But stand on John 11, verse 44.

01:06:22.620 I mean, that's just, I mean, I'm sorry, it's just evil.

01:06:26.180 It's just evil to solicit donations and to say that God is going to do something if someone continues to pay her money.

01:06:33.860 I truly believe that that is wicked, that there will be punishment for that.

01:06:37.860 All right.

01:06:38.540 All right.

01:06:38.600 Last bit is her connection to the new apostolic, let's see, it's NAR, new apostolic reformation, and a couple other things.

01:06:49.860 So we'll get into that quickly.

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01:07:52.880 Okay, so Paula stepped down as the pastor of her church. 0.99

01:07:57.120 And now she is the apostolic overseer of her church.

01:08:00.880 So she oversees the pastors there.

01:08:05.080 And she apparently is kind of a part of this new apostolic reformation, which is this movement that kind of emphasizes experience over scripture, mysticism over doctrine, modern-day apostles over the plain text of the Bible.

01:08:22.460 That's kind of what I'm gathering she is promoting and pushing, which is why I would probably put her in this NAR camp. 0.56

01:08:29.600 According to the new apostolic thinking, mankind lost its dominion over the earth as part of the fall of Adam.

01:08:34.360 And so it's our job to try to get it back through all of these different means, declaring, manifesting, all of that.

01:08:41.540 And, like, financial success plays a role in that.

01:08:44.860 Following the 2020 election and Biden's apparent victory over Trump, Paula White preached a sermon in which she called for victory and for angelic reinforcement from Africa and South America to intervene in the spiritual battle for the election.

01:08:59.540 And also, she claims that her spirit ascended to heaven where God gave her a distinct mantle.

01:09:14.740 So here's thought 18.

01:09:15.940 My spirit went up and I literally went to the throne room of God.

01:09:20.620 And as God began, he put a mantle on me, and it was a very distinct mantle.

01:09:28.700 I had no idea that apostle had prophesied.

01:09:32.800 I think he said that there was a mantle that was coming upon me, that there was a new mantle coming upon me.

01:09:39.100 And there was a mantle, and I saw it very distinctly.

01:09:42.220 The color was like a goldish, but it was a yellowish goldish, a little bit different than your scarf,

01:09:50.260 a little bit brighter than your scarf there.

01:09:53.620 And then I saw the earth for a moment, and he brought me back, and he put me in certain places,

01:09:59.460 one being the White House, one being certain continents.

01:10:04.340 I don't know, that description of the goldish, the yellowish goldish, the goldish, the goldish yellowish scarf.

01:10:11.620 I don't know, that just really got me.

01:10:13.540 That's really funny.

01:10:15.440 Okay, she also distorts the communion.

01:10:18.020 This is really sad, Sutton 19.

01:10:20.940 During that time, the Holy Spirit gave me an answer.

01:10:25.700 He said, take communion.

01:10:28.880 When you take the Eucharist, thank you, Lord.

01:10:31.620 It's as if Jesus Christ has just been crucified, buried, and rose again.

01:10:38.360 For your ministry gift of $100 or more tonight, we will also rush you this beautiful sterling silver communion set,

01:10:43.980 complete with two cups and a serving plate, all in a zip-up carrying case.

01:10:47.560 To take anywhere with you.

01:10:49.240 Oh my gosh.

01:10:51.460 Okay, so a lot of people distort Jesus turning over the tables in the temple.

01:10:57.220 And they say, you know, that's a reason to get mad about anything or to show outrage about anything.

01:11:01.720 But this is really what he was talking about.

01:11:05.120 He said that you have made my house a den of robbers.

01:11:08.560 And this is very similar to that.

01:11:11.880 She is using the Eucharist to make money. 0.56

01:11:17.060 To make money.

01:11:18.560 She has a lot of different moments like this.

01:11:22.280 She says, when we're at the right place at the right time, God gives us the ability to see into our future.

01:11:31.320 She said this in February of this year.

01:11:34.440 I don't have time to play all of these clips because we've already gone over so long.

01:11:39.360 She also has some like strange sexual moments from stage with her husband.

01:11:44.480 There is one sermon that she gave a few years ago with her now husband where she is anointing his feet.

01:11:52.660 And she's telling the story of the woman of the night anointing Jesus' feet with oil.

01:11:57.420 Which is a very beautiful story about faith.

01:12:01.560 And she makes it really weird and sexual.

01:12:05.040 And she's like very weirdly, strangely, sensually kissing her husband's feet as she is trying to tell that story.

01:12:13.220 And then there's also this.

01:12:16.500 And this is not missing context.

01:12:18.100 I've listened to the whole context.

01:12:19.360 This is 2015.

01:12:21.160 Paula White and her now husband. 0.94

01:12:22.600 Her husband is suggesting that on stage at church to Christians that men and women should watch porn together. 0.67

01:12:30.280 Here's SOT 22. 0.85

01:12:31.860 Ladies, if you don't know what he likes, you know, figure it out. 1.00

01:12:35.680 Get a book. 0.99

01:12:36.660 Go get some porn. 1.00

01:12:37.700 Do something. 1.00

01:12:38.320 Whatever. 1.00

01:12:38.980 If he likes to watch porn, watch porn with him. 0.60

01:12:40.580 Later, she kind of goes on to correct him and say, oh, we're not advocating for that.

01:12:47.000 That's not something we do.

01:12:47.980 Don't get addicted to it.

01:12:49.260 But like, you know, educate yourself.

01:12:51.680 So as far as I know, she hasn't repented of that.

01:12:54.160 Maybe that's not something she would say anymore.

01:12:56.360 And so there's a lot more.

01:12:57.820 I'm much, I mean, yes, I'm concerned about like the personal choices that she has made in her life seemingly unrepentantly when we're talking about adultery and divorce, but also just her teaching.

01:13:10.500 And my heart really breaks for people who have been duped by the prosperity gospel, who have given their hard-earned dollars to people who are just trying to line their pockets and who are preying upon people's vulnerability, whether it's their sickness, whether it's their poverty, or whether it is their like gullibility to get rich.

01:13:34.900 And, I mean, truly, there is punishment for that.

01:13:39.860 There is eternal punishment for that.

01:13:42.180 And we actually read in the book of James that teachers are actually judged more harshly than everyone else.

01:13:48.220 And so I want Paula White to repent and become a Christian. 0.89

01:13:52.280 That's what I want.

01:13:53.400 Because if she still believes this, then she doesn't believe in the real Jesus.

01:13:57.080 She doesn't believe in the gospel of Christ.

01:13:58.900 I want that for her.

01:14:00.520 And, again, I want this White House office of faith to be successful.

01:14:04.380 I want it to champion the true gospel.

01:14:07.220 I want it to carry the cause of true Christianity.

01:14:11.940 I think that's great.

01:14:13.520 And I know it's probably all different kinds of faith, and I'm not sure what those initiatives might look like.

01:14:19.480 And I know that God can use imperfect people to bring them to himself, and I pray for that.

01:14:25.200 But this is troubling.

01:14:26.620 And I can celebrate Trump's many, many, many victories that he has accomplished just over the past couple weeks.

01:14:33.840 I can praise God for that and still be really clear that this person in leadership is not a good thing.

01:14:41.060 All right.

01:14:42.040 That's all we've got time for today.

01:14:43.960 We will be back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 10, 2025

Ep 1137 ｜ Paula White & 'He Gets Us' Get Jesus Wrong

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