Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1149 ｜ Alex Clark on Finding the One & Why She’s Thankful for Botox

00:00:00.000 She went from chicken nugget princess to queen of the Maha movement. Alex Clark is here today

00:00:07.140 to talk about her personal health journey, as well as her professional evolution over the past year.

00:00:14.140 And she also has some romantic details to reveal about her new, very serious relationship. This

00:00:22.400 was such a fun and full conversation that everyone is going to love so much. This episode is brought

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00:00:45.920 Alex, thanks so much for taking the time to join us in person.

00:00:49.560 Yeah, I'm happy to be back. I think third time's a charm.

00:00:52.220 Yes, I think first time in this set though.

00:00:54.540 Yeah, first time in this set. And I told my team, I said it used to be purple.

00:00:59.300 Now your colors are green and it looks gorgeous, but you are nervous about the black because now

00:01:03.780 you did the color thing and now you've been ruined.

00:01:06.560 I've been ruined. I was just talking to my husband about this this morning. At the least

00:01:10.440 opportune time, I started like ripping clothes off of my hangers this morning. I'm like trying

00:01:15.020 to get the kids dressed and I'm like, I can't stand looking at this light gray and black anymore 0.99

00:01:19.260 because it's not in my color season. Did you feel like that after you got your colors done?

00:01:23.340 I have not broken the rule once. I actually stopped wearing my aura ring because it was gold.

00:01:27.380 And then you're a silver girl. And now I'm a silver girl. So my boyfriend for one of my

00:01:31.320 birthday gifts, he got me the silver aura ring so I could start wearing one again.

00:01:33.940 That is sweet. I have followed the rules to a T. I haven't, I have not ventured off once.

00:01:39.740 Okay. You know, I wish I could say that, but the hardest one for me is black. 0.75

00:01:43.420 Yeah. Cause you have black cause you're winter. Yes. So black and white, true white are both in 0.99

00:01:49.020 my color palette. And, uh, I, I mean, I told everybody guys, girls, kids, get your colors

00:01:53.560 done. It's a one-time thing because you're not going to change. Find out what it is. You will

00:01:57.780 feel so confident your makeup, your accessories, your shoes, your bags, everything to be tailored

00:02:03.120 to exactly what looks the best on you. It's just a game changer. And it's especially a game changer

00:02:06.760 for people in media like us. I think. Yeah. You can't stop seeing it. And you spend less money on

00:02:11.240 clothes. I think I'm less likely to like, Oh, pop into anthropology or pop in somewhere and get

00:02:17.320 something just because it looks cute. Because if it's not in my season, I'm not going to get it.

00:02:21.380 So it actually saves you money. It actually does tell your husband's that. Yeah. So anyway,

00:02:25.360 I might be changing the background green match my color season. Okay. There are so many things I

00:02:31.600 want to talk to you about. I want to talk to you first about just like the rebranding from

00:02:36.760 politics to culture apothecary, but really go back to the health journey that started that shift or

00:02:44.100 initiated that shift because you were the chicken nugget queen, the queen of chicken nuggets. And 1.00

00:02:49.400 now you are like, stop eating Chick-fil-A, no seed oils. So take us back to chicken nugget queen and how

00:02:56.520 this first changed. Yeah. So, I mean, my life, I grew up primarily eating only ultra processed food.

00:03:02.180 I remember going through the line in high school for lunch and just getting like a red fruit punch and

00:03:06.080 six or seven rice crispy treats. And that was my lunch. I lived off snacks. That's all I ate.

00:03:11.140 Chick-fil-A, McDonald's, Wendy's. I loved it all. And I never thought anything about it. I thought

00:03:17.220 organic was a gimmick. I didn't even know what a GMO was. My family, I mean, my mom made home cooked

00:03:22.880 meals every night, but we didn't know anything about seed oils or corn syrup or thought it was a big

00:03:27.260 deal. And when the pandemic happened and we were all mandated to, you know, get a certain medical

00:03:33.900 product, I was so deeply disturbed by that because I just thought in my spirit, that's so evil and

00:03:39.980 wrong to tell people, like, if you do not put something inside of your body, you're not allowed

00:03:43.200 to participate basically in the public sphere or you can't keep your job. You know, they told us that,

00:03:48.080 well, you had a choice. No, you didn't. Because if you're wielding against somebody, you have to take

00:03:52.820 this or you're going to lose your job, which I know, I know a girl at my old radio station, she had to 0.99

00:03:57.800 quit because they told her as a breastfeeding mother, if you don't get this, you're going to lose your job.

00:04:00.940 She said, well, I'm breastfeeding. I'm not getting this. Yeah. So then she quit. Um, that's not

00:04:04.740 really giving people a choice. And so I thought that was super evil. And I had never really even

00:04:09.960 thought of like the phrase big pharma before until that I started kind of seeing people say that. And

00:04:14.920 I thought, well, that's interesting. I wonder what that is. And right at that time, Hulu came out with

00:04:19.900 that Emmy award-winning show called dope sick. Did you ever end up watching that? I don't actually,

00:04:25.000 I might have related bro. We watched a lot of TV during the COVID era. So we might have,

00:04:30.660 it is so excellent. So if you like watch the first episode to see if you've watched it or not,

00:04:34.420 you need to go back. It is phenomenal. Um, won tons of awards, but I was watching that. And if you

00:04:39.520 don't know, dope sick is about the Purdue pharma scandal and Sackler family who created Oxycontin

00:04:46.440 and you know, mass produced this knowing that it was an addictive opioid, even though they told people

00:04:52.000 it wasn't. And basically the reason we have the opioid crisis now is because of the Sackler family and

00:04:57.500 greed of this pharmaceutical company. I had never heard that story. Um, and that totally speaks to

00:05:03.600 just personal privilege. My family growing up, I just hadn't been touched by the opioid crisis.

00:05:08.500 So I really didn't know anything about it until watching that show. And I was so floored that the

00:05:13.460 FDA could approve a drug knowing that it was addictive, knowing that this was killing people,

00:05:18.880 um, you know, causing spikes in crime and mass destruction all over our rural communities,

00:05:23.800 especially in the United States that led me to looking into, well, what other drugs has the FDA

00:05:29.480 approved or have we kind of been marketed to that is totally safe, no side effects, uh, and really

00:05:34.780 been duped by. And that led me to hormonal birth control. I had been on birth control for about 10

00:05:41.440 years. I had never thought anything about it. It was never even posed to me as a question of,

00:05:46.740 should you really be taking this or not? It was just automatic. Every single, you know,

00:05:50.220 checkup visit. It was like, Oh, we're going to renew your prescription for this. And why was it

00:05:54.360 initially? Why did your doctor say you needed it? Couldn't tell you. Couldn't tell you. I was 14

00:05:58.740 or 15 years old. They probably said, you know, do your cramps hurt when your period starting? Yeah.

00:06:02.520 Okay. We're going to put this on you. And this is what's so annoying to me about like a lot of

00:06:07.140 discourse on X in super legalistic, conservative Christian circles is this conversation of like,

00:06:14.320 well, if a girl is on birth control or was ever on birth control, then, you know, she's, 1.00

00:06:18.660 she's a whore sleeping around or whatever. It's like for most of us, our generation, 1.00

00:06:24.280 we were just put on it. I mean, really, we had no informed consent whatsoever about what was going

00:06:28.500 on. We're not sexually active. It was literally like I was 17. I had mono and I think I missed my

00:06:33.920 period one month because I was feeling sick. And she was like, Oh, you missed your period. Let's get

00:06:37.660 you on birth control to get you regular. And then I was on it for like the next five years of my life.

00:06:42.960 And it wasn't to actually prevent pregnancy. It was literally just because one doctor told me that I

00:06:48.100 should when I was 17. You're right. Most women, that's their story. Yeah. And it's so, so it's so 0.66

00:06:53.360 frustrating. And I didn't know, you know, I didn't know that when you're prescribed hormonal birth

00:06:58.200 control for 10 years, if you take it 10 years more that you have a 230% increase likelihood of

00:07:03.700 developing an autoimmune disease, which now I have, I didn't know that it completely alters who you are

00:07:09.400 attracted to in a man, in a mate that when you're on birth control, you are more attracted to a

00:07:14.740 feminine looking man than masculine. Yes. Now, like the guy in severance, what's his name?

00:07:21.200 It was also Leslie Knope's husband. Yes. Yes. What's his name? Adam Scott. That's the, I mean,

00:07:29.200 that's what you're typically attracted to if you're on hormonal birth control. I saw someone say,

00:07:33.260 is anyone attracted to Adam Scott who is not on an SSRI? I was like, I don't know.

00:07:39.060 Well, and you know who else? And guess who I had a crush, who was my celebrity crush in high school?

00:07:42.680 Michael Cera from Juno. I mean, that guy, he, him and Adam Scott are in that same category of like

00:07:49.960 very like, like soft, like kind of beta boy type of guys. So yeah, I didn't know any of that. Like

00:07:56.580 this was never disclosed to me in my initial checkup. And so that piqued my interest. And I

00:08:02.000 just started like posting on my stories to my followers. And this was like summer of 2021,

00:08:06.460 I think. And I started posting. I was like, did you guys know this about birth control? Did you

00:08:09.960 know this? And I could see my story share. So like, it was just like thousands of people sharing my

00:08:14.540 story out of nowhere. Um, when I would post about hormonal birth control and I thought, Oh wow,

00:08:19.320 I've hit a nerve here. My audience, just like me, they didn't know this information. I mean,

00:08:23.380 nobody in the conservative movement, the only people talking about birth control,

00:08:27.440 I think around that time was Evie magazine was, was kind of talking about, we both started talking

00:08:31.760 about it around the same time. Like nobody was really talking about this, like in the pro-life

00:08:35.120 circles or anything, because it was very touchy. Like, Ooh, we don't want to rock that boat. Same

00:08:40.240 with IVF. You were the first person to start talking about like ethics with IVF and big fertility. Like

00:08:44.860 nobody wanted to touch that because it was like, if we poke that bear, then we're going to lose all

00:08:49.240 the people that are like mushy middle pro-lifers. Um, and so it was like not popular to talk about birth

00:08:54.120 control or IVF or whatever at that time. Um, and so I started talking about it and I could see like

00:08:58.320 my numbers just spike. And that led me to then investigating and going down the rabbit hole of

00:09:03.700 big food, understanding that like only a handful of food companies control everything. And the

00:09:10.680 consequences of that, um, you know, how our food is engineered to be as addictive as possible,

00:09:17.020 how it's, it's not, it doesn't really matter how much you're moving. If you're eating ultra

00:09:22.380 processed food at night, after you run, you know, a lap around your neighborhood, you're not going to lose

00:09:26.940 the weight, um, that so much of this system is rigged. It's like almost impossible to find true

00:09:32.500 unbiased nutrition information that even the food pyramid I grew up with was completely bought and

00:09:37.600 paid for. It was a total scam. I mean, every aspect for a millennial woman of medicine, of 1.00

00:09:44.840 nutrition, of pharma was a lie. It was completely rigged and we were set up for failure. GMOs were

00:09:51.960 introduced to our generation. The vaccine schedule exploded on our generation. We were all put on birth

00:09:56.420 control. I mean, millennial women have by far been, we were millennial women were experimenting on

00:10:03.100 without our consent. And when I testified at the United States Senate in September of 2024 with RFK

00:10:09.900 junior, that was what I did my speech on was that none of us knew what we were agreeing to. And now

00:10:15.620 we're all trying to start families. We're trying to have kids. And if we even can get pregnant,

00:10:20.480 then trying to raise kids in this completely rigged system, it's nearly impossible. And so hopefully

00:10:27.420 this is what's now going to be changing with RFK junior in charge of HHS. Yeah. I remember,

00:10:32.680 I think it was probably almost exactly five years ago, maybe a little, maybe like spring of 2020.

00:10:38.900 Cause I remember I was recording at home and it was COVID and I did an episode about birth control,

00:10:44.600 IVF and surrogacy. Cause it was around this time. I think a lot of people were on the same journey

00:10:48.400 being like, okay, is this okay? What about all these things that doctors have been telling us

00:10:54.080 for so many years? And I remember doing that episode and being scared. I'm like, Oh, I'm

00:10:57.880 talking about birth control, IVF and surrogacy. This is like you said, a subject that a lot of

00:11:03.400 pro-lifers don't want to wade into. And I was nervous, but it's amazing how much that has shifted

00:11:07.920 over the past few years. Now everyone's talking about it. Now I would say surrogacy and IVF are still

00:11:13.600 very touchy issues, but certainly, and it, you know, it's not just me. I was inspired by people

00:11:19.880 like Jennifer Law and Katie Faust who had been talking about it for a long time and it has

00:11:25.460 shifted. A lot of people are realizing the issues with all of these problems, especially when it

00:11:32.220 comes to reproductive technology. Yeah. And it's hard. It's hard when, you know, the president supports

00:11:37.340 it and obviously we support the president, but we don't support everything. And so it's an interesting

00:11:41.360 kind of landmine to walk through on that conversation. But, um, I agree with you. I

00:11:46.040 think that in the next decade, I think that's going to become less and less popular with Christian

00:11:51.280 conservatives because it's at a certain point, just like with all these other things, uh, that

00:11:55.160 we turned a blind eye to, there comes a certain point where you just cannot deny the evidence and

00:12:00.220 the biblical reality. It's untenable. Is this right or wrong? Totally.

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00:13:45.160 So you went on this kind of research rabbit hole, but not everyone who goes down this research rabbit

00:13:57.920 hole and learns the truth about things, make their own personal lives kind of match what they

00:14:03.000 research. So you went on a personal journey because you were chicken nugget queen. You also would, 0.60

00:14:08.680 and I loved these videos, like you would take us with you to get your Botox and to get your lip

00:14:14.860 fillers. You would talk about how like, you don't like eating salads. You don't like eating

00:14:19.820 vegetables. You would rate the different kinds of chicken nuggets, which I loved, you know,

00:14:24.020 it's just like fun content, but obviously that changed for you. So tell me personally what that

00:14:30.360 looked like and how you started making those changes. Cause if you were raised your whole life

00:14:34.940 on junk food, that's a big deal to shift away from that. So one thing about me that drives my best

00:14:40.240 friend, Lauren nuts is that I am black and white. There's never nuance. I am all in, or I am all

00:14:45.580 out. When I become obsessed with something, I'm like, Oh, I'm changing everything. Like there is no

00:14:49.960 baby steps with me. I have to do it all at once or I'm not committed. And so when it came to the

00:14:55.460 food, that was the first thing I started on. I just woke up one day and I said, I'm never eating

00:14:59.600 fast food again. I'm never like all my ultra process stacks. I'm throwing them out. I'm going to

00:15:03.820 the grocery store. I'm redoing my entire cabinet. I mean, it was all like one weekend and I stuck to it.

00:15:09.060 I feel like you posted about this. I might even remember it. Did you post about it at the time?

00:15:12.780 I don't even know. I don't even know anymore, but yeah, I was just all in. Now I, this overwhelms

00:15:18.340 99% of people. So my advice for the average person who is just kind of starting to be like, Hey,

00:15:23.700 I want to live cleaner. I want to live healthier. I want to make these changes for my family.

00:15:27.780 My advice is find one ingredient that you want to learn about. So maybe that's seed oils or maybe it's

00:15:32.560 artificial food dyes. And you're going to be like, okay, I want to learn everything I can about seed

00:15:36.540 oils. I'm going to get so good, expert level good at reading this in a label, spotting it so that I

00:15:42.680 can then remove everything in my pantry, in my freezer, in my fridge that has seed oils in it.

00:15:46.640 And you're going to eliminate everything in your life that has that ingredient. And then

00:15:49.760 whether that takes two weeks till you feel expert level or a year, you will then move on to the next

00:15:54.740 thing, you know, uh, high fructose corn syrup or whatever it is. And then you're going to,

00:15:58.560 you're going to start phasing that out of your family's life. And so that works for most people.

00:16:02.560 I'm just an all in person. So I started with the food. Um, and then the very, very last thing for

00:16:07.920 me was Botox. I stopped getting lip filler because several years ago, because I started just seeing

00:16:14.540 beauty trends change. So it was just really in to have super huge, juicy lips. And then all of a 0.99

00:16:20.520 sudden it became ugly. So that was me. Like I was convinced honestly, because I'm a trend watcher

00:16:25.520 and I love, like, I love when Gen Z says, this is in, this is out or whatever, even as a millennial,

00:16:29.480 I'm like, Ooh, fun. I love fashion and stuff. So I like changing my look as, as times change,

00:16:34.840 still keeping things age appropriate, but like making little shifts. So I was on board with like,

00:16:39.180 okay, lip filler is kind of going out. So that's why I stopped getting lip filler Botox. I was hanging

00:16:44.120 on to dear life for, and I want to make this preface. I was hanging on to Botox as my like one

00:16:51.660 little thing that I was doing. And when I tell you that I am perfect about food, I am 99.8% perfect

00:17:02.380 on my food. So for me getting nails done, dying my hair, you know, I mix and match toxic and non-toxic

00:17:10.040 makeup and skincare. And then I was doing Botox. What ended up happening was the last time I got Botox,

00:17:17.300 which was, we're going on two years ago. I had flu-like symptoms for a week. A month goes by,

00:17:25.260 I get my hair done. My hairstylist is washing my hair. She says, something is not right with you.

00:17:29.700 Your hair is falling out. But that was scary. It was super scary. She said, I think you need to go

00:17:34.600 get your thyroid checked. I waited about six months. I went and did the whole Dutch hormone test, found

00:17:40.700 out that I had an autoimmune disease that I have Hashimoto's, um, hair falling out, hair loss, things like

00:17:46.040 that. That's all attributed to Hashimoto's. What happened, I believe was a combination of a lifelong

00:17:53.200 of every vaccine flu shot every single fall, like clockwork always just thought good people get a

00:18:00.800 flu shot, uh, Botox since I was about 23 years old, every three months. And also, you know, toxin

00:18:09.960 overload in my life, fragrance, artificial fragrance, candles, perfumes, you know, in my makeup products,

00:18:15.880 in my body washes, uh, the food that I was eating. So birth control for 10 years, my toxic load

00:18:24.040 bucket had started to overflow. And that last round of Botox, I believe is what tipped me over the edge

00:18:31.800 and where I couldn't handle it any longer. And so I thought I can't do this anymore because I know

00:18:36.840 people that have had, uh, you know, Botox illness and permanent damage with Botox. And I just thought

00:18:43.460 I could be one round away from, you know, being majorly sick from Botox. So I couldn't risk it any

00:18:50.600 longer. I knew it was exacerbating my autoimmune. Yeah. Gosh, it is tempting. And sometimes I've never

00:18:56.160 had Botox or fillers or anything like that. But yesterday I was at the dentist and the dentist was

00:19:01.140 saying, you hold so much tension right here, which of course I do. I always have. She was like,

00:19:05.580 have you ever considered like Botox right there? And I was like, could I get away with it if it's

00:19:10.800 for a medical reason? And I could justify it by saying it's not just vanity. Then she started 1.00

00:19:15.980 saying that, you know, it could make your face look slimmer and all of that stuff. But I've also

00:19:20.340 heard stories of it causing like Bell's palsy in your face, especially when it's so close to these

00:19:26.980 nerves. Like it would not be worth it. It would not be worth it. I'm just got a gua sha, maybe a little 0.99

00:19:32.560 bit better on my masseters instead of injecting myself with toxins. Want me to tell you something

00:19:37.960 crazy about Botox nobody is talking about? Yes, please. So first of all, everybody wants to bring

00:19:45.180 up that Botox is a neurotoxin. That is true. And that is a risk in and of itself. But the ingredient

00:19:50.600 that no one is talking about is a human derivative, is a derivative of human blood. Now we do not know,

00:20:00.560 it is not disclosed to the consumer. If this derivative of human blood and Botox contains

00:20:06.400 the mRNA vaccine, that is a massive risk that consumers should know. And the other thing is,

00:20:13.640 and here's what I'm going to say that's going to be controversial and everybody's going to get very

00:20:16.940 upset. This is the number one thing. If I, there are two things, Allie, that I talk about that piss

00:20:22.260 people off. It's Taylor Swift and it's Botox. Oh, we haven't even gotten to Taylor Swift yet.

00:20:26.840 Oh gosh, I forgot about that. Forgot about that with this show. Um, so the thing about Botox is

00:20:34.540 you and I are about the same age. We're about a year apart and your skin looks great. And you're

00:20:39.720 like, your skin looks, you're wrinkle free. I don't know if you've noticed, and I'm just going

00:20:43.800 to say it and people are going to say mean girl energy and that's fine. I don't care. 0.97

00:20:47.280 I look so much younger than basically everyone that I graduated high school with. When I see

00:20:54.580 pictures of them way more like fine lines and wrinkles starting to develop now that we're in

00:20:58.320 our early thirties, I attribute my wrinkle freeness to getting Botox starting in my mid twenties. Now I

00:21:05.060 know that that's going to upset everybody. That is not to say that there's clearly a risk that my toxin

00:21:11.120 bucket overflowed. I think part of me developing an autoimmune disease and everything like that,

00:21:15.020 I think Botox contributed, but I still think that I can say Botox also helped my face not settle into

00:21:21.020 fine lines and wrinkles. I think I, I am so, I have so much expression when I talk, there is no way

00:21:27.040 that I would not have way deeper fine lines right now if I wouldn't have been getting that. So I

00:21:32.060 think two things can be true. I think the product can work for some people, but there's also a massive

00:21:37.960 risk. So you have to decide for yourself as a consumer is, you know, it's worth the risk

00:21:44.940 for me to try getting this or is it not? And then that's up to you. But the people that freak

00:21:49.020 out, like, um, you know, you can't talk about this. You couldn't get this. You need to age gracefully

00:21:53.340 or whatever. Boo on you. I don't care. Like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with wanting

00:21:58.280 to age, um, slower than somebody else, but people like really grab onto that. Like, I don't know. It's

00:22:04.840 almost like people just get real like pious about it. Like, um, I'm better than you because I'm choosing

00:22:09.620 to not dye my hair or do anything or wear very much makeup and I'm aging gracefully. And they

00:22:13.560 just really like to wield that over people. And I just think, I think it's silly. Yeah. And that's 0.88

00:22:18.420 fine. And people can disagree with me on that. But, um, you know, Costi Henn and I were just

00:22:23.580 talking about this because we got asked about it on stage in a Q and a, and I think you go to

00:22:27.240 Costi's church, right? Yes. And I was just doing a women's conference with him over the weekend

00:22:31.360 and someone asked us about this and he made a good point about not being pious and not assuming

00:22:36.840 someone's motives are just vanity. If they do have like lip fillers or something like

00:22:41.300 it always goes to the heart. And for me, I do have to ask myself, like, what is my motivation?

00:22:48.360 And while I don't think it's something to wield over people, I do think that it is worth having

00:22:53.860 a conversation with yourself and asking you what is motivating me to do any kind of beauty

00:22:59.380 thing, whatever it is. Is it just like my preference or do I think that more people are going to

00:23:03.940 like me? Am I afraid of aging? Because I agree, like I will do everything non-invasive to try to

00:23:10.920 age as like gracefully as possible and to prevent those wrinkles. But I also have to remind myself

00:23:17.040 that I'm 33 and I will not look like I did at 25. I won't look like a 22 year old and that's okay.

00:23:25.720 And I have to accept that and be like, not everyone had the blessing of turning 33.

00:23:29.340 That's true. So there is, I think, a conversation to be had with yourself,

00:23:33.280 an honest conversation because doing things strictly out of vanity is going to lead you

00:23:38.220 down a path that is like never ending. Well, and here's the other spicy thing that everyone's

00:23:41.900 going to get mad at me for saying. Okay. Anecdotally. Okay. And there's not been official research on

00:23:47.340 this, but I'm saying anecdotally, all these women that talk about, oh, you know, Botox poisoning and I 1.00

00:23:52.760 develop this problem and, and whatever. Groupons. I'm just saying, wait, that's what caused it

00:24:00.100 because it was the cheaper version. You, I'm saying if you are going to take the risk and

00:24:04.160 you're going to get Botox, you better use the, you better not take any shortcuts. Oh yeah. You

00:24:09.340 better find an expert injector that you trust with your life and, and pay a pretty penny for it.

00:24:14.460 The Groupon women getting Botox are almost always the ones saying like, I had a bad side effect or I 0.98

00:24:18.860 had a bad, you know, I had a bad outcome. Yeah. So I'm just saying, ask them, did you use a Groupon

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00:25:58.140 Okay. You've talked about the 80-20. 80 being really strict, health conscious, the 20 for indulgences.

00:26:04.580 Is that something that you hold to? And if so, what's your 20?

00:26:08.680 No, I don't hold to it. And let me tell you, this whole thing is just crap because- 0.98

00:26:12.100 Oh, I thought that came from you. I thought you said 80-20. 0.99

00:26:14.780 Everyone says it. I make a joke of people that say this because here's the truth.

00:26:19.680 Majority of people, when they say like, well, this is part of my 80-20, I'm 80-20. You're not.

00:26:23.700 You're not. Because the average American is truly not completely cutting out ultra processed food.

00:26:30.540 They're still going to Chick-fil-A a couple times a week, you know, or before baseball practice or

00:26:36.400 whatever. I mean, almost no one is really eating that way. And so your 80-20 actually becomes more

00:26:43.520 like, uh, like, geez, 40-60 and the 40 is what is clean. And the 60 is what is not. I mean,

00:26:52.200 that's what is probably more accurate for most people. So for me, I mean, when I tell you, so like

00:26:58.260 today, today before the show, my team was like, okay, if you want to drink besides water,

00:27:04.200 the only option that we're going to be able to do while we're here and we're filming or whatever

00:27:07.280 is we're going to have to do a Starbucks run. What do you want? Now, the last time I had Starbucks,

00:27:11.120 I don't even know. I don't even know. It's probably been over a year. I don't ever go out.

00:27:16.000 My, my whole department will go and get Chick-fil-A or whatever. And I'm the only one that won't do it.

00:27:20.320 Um, I truly withstand like getting any of that food. What's in my 20 or I don't even think it's a 20.

00:27:27.860 I really think I'm more like 90, 10 is hair, skin, and nails. I mean, that's my beauty stuff

00:27:34.800 and then clothing, clothing materials. So if you really want to talk about like the crunchiest

00:27:38.880 of the crunchy, I mean, those people are literally only wearing wool, cotton, linen. Some people

00:27:43.780 adhere to that. It's just not possible with you and I, with all the events that we do, you know,

00:27:47.940 formal gowns, you know, filming shows needing to look nice, like, sorry, but we need to have cute

00:27:52.160 outfits. So it's like, I'm not going to only be wearing natural fibers. Yeah. That is like the

00:27:57.600 hardest thing. I got this ball gown for that, like turning point inaugural ball and it was

00:28:02.120 beautiful. And then when I looked on the inside labels, a hundred percent polyester, it's so hard.

00:28:07.480 We're wearing oil byproducts. You know what I mean? It's like, what are we going to do?

00:28:10.100 So that's not realistic to me. So I would say that's in my like 10% of not clean, but I mean,

00:28:16.040 everyone that works with me can vouch for, I do practice what I preach and people get very upset

00:28:21.920 about that. They think I'm lying or it's not possible. It is possible. You just don't want to do it.

00:28:25.120 We prioritize what is important to us, whether that's screen time for your kids or it's, you know,

00:28:31.480 the food that you're feeding your family. If you really want to, you will. And people do not like

00:28:37.060 that conviction and that accountability. And so I just tell people you're not working hard enough.

00:28:42.180 If you really care about this and you're learning all this stuff with the Maha movement and you know

00:28:46.240 that what we're saying is true, you need to do something about it. I just interviewed somebody.

00:28:50.260 He made such a good point. He said, people think, uh, you know, we only vote every four

00:28:55.280 years. You don't, you vote when it comes to food and pharma three times a day, what's going

00:29:00.400 on your plate. So those decisions that the woman is making for her household and her family

00:29:04.600 are so unbelievably critical into completely reshaping the market in the food that is offered

00:29:10.100 in the food that is sold in our grocery stores. It is the mother that is making those decisions 0.54

00:29:14.320 that impacts it. So if you are not willing to go all in, you are holding the Maha movement

00:29:19.620 back. Yeah, that's really good. And I know that you do practice what you preach and you

00:29:24.180 talk about it a lot too. There's a lot of transparency with you, which I'm sure maybe make some people

00:29:30.100 feel bad, but I think a lot of the, you make me feel bad about this really is just conviction

00:29:36.380 and really is just guilt. And we've all experienced that to some degree.

00:29:40.840 Yes. All the time. I do all the time too. I mean, oh my gosh, Kosti Hinn is my, is my preacher.

00:29:45.800 I feel convicted all the time. He just did a whole sermon on forgiveness and, and how unbiblical it is 0.73

00:29:51.160 to not forgive people. Oh, and I love my grudges. So that is very hard for me. So yes, I have other

00:29:56.680 things in my life where, you know, I feel those things, but, um, I feel really confident about, uh,

00:30:01.880 about all the health and wellness practices that I do. Yeah. Okay. Let's shift into professional

00:30:07.440 conversation about the branding change for a culture apothecary because you and I talk behind

00:30:11.820 the scenes. And before the shift to culture apothecary, I think it's okay for me to say,

00:30:16.720 like, you were feeling a little burned out. Like there were days that you were like, you were like,

00:30:21.540 I don't want to, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. I feel so much pressure. I want to build

00:30:24.800 an audience. Do people still love politics? I love politics, but do I? And so like, we had those kinds

00:30:30.260 of conversations, I don't know, a year and a half ago, maybe even two years ago when you were

00:30:34.980 wondering, do I even really want to do this anymore? And it seems to me from an outsider's

00:30:40.200 perspective that there has just been new life breathed into you and your career, your professional

00:30:45.780 pursuits over the past year, since this shift has happened into Maha. Well, thank you. Yeah. I would

00:30:51.300 like to think so. Um, and I think that shows that I'm truly passionate about this. And so I think it

00:30:55.740 comes out in my work that, um, you know, there is more, you know, new life breathed into the show,

00:31:01.320 but I was doing this pop culture show. I mean, I started, I got hired at turning point 2019. So

00:31:06.220 what I was like 26 and that made sense. There was no pop culture show in the conservative movement,

00:31:12.580 like a daily show, just covering entertainment news from a conservative perspective. Yeah. And so

00:31:16.380 I started doing that and that was fun and it was needed. And it was, you know, like I created that

00:31:20.820 a couple months before the pandemic. And that was what we needed that like fun and silliness and levity

00:31:26.160 in such a scary dark time when a lot of us were working from home and just, you know, it was just 0.99

00:31:31.700 like such a stupid show, but like it had a purpose. It was stupid while also kind of being like the 1.00

00:31:37.300 introductory point to conservatism for a lot of young women that were like, Ooh, conservatism scary. 1.00

00:31:43.880 I don't know. They don't seem like fun people. And like this kind of showed like, we are fun. We like

00:31:47.500 pop culture. We can keep up with the Kardashians. You know, it was like, it was that, um, and that

00:31:52.600 had its purpose. But as I got older, just as my audience is getting older, you know, I'm hitting

00:31:57.720 my thirties and I'm like, I have other things that I think are more important that I want to talk

00:32:02.060 about. Like when I was totally radicalized on health and wellness throughout the pandemic,

00:32:06.360 that was important to me. Like, I need people to know this. Like, I feel like I am wasting precious

00:32:11.760 time for these people who are getting married and starting families and having kids, this information

00:32:15.980 that could be life changing for their families by not talking about it. I felt a huge pressure to talk

00:32:22.120 about this. And it was a fight. It was a fight behind the scenes for me to completely transition

00:32:27.360 and focus on this. There was a lot of, I think this is a mistake. Do people really want to talk

00:32:31.840 about health and wellness all day? Uh, I don't understand what this has to do with the conservative

00:32:35.840 movement. Why would we talk about health? And I was saying, I mean, what I was screaming blue in the

00:32:41.640 face, I was like, this is the future of the conservative movement with women. If you do not listen to me, 1.00

00:32:47.560 we are going to lose a massive amount of female voters. This subject can change the election. We 1.00

00:32:53.680 can win the election with undecided female voters. If we focus on health and wellness, 0.87

00:32:58.880 everybody thought I was nuts. When I, we have our women's conference every June with turning point, 0.95

00:33:04.220 the women's leadership summit in last year, you know, last January, we're planning for June and I'm

00:33:09.500 going, we need to focus on health and it needs to be 90% health and wellness. Nobody wanted to do that.

00:33:14.500 It was like, this seems insane. I don't understand this. This is a wild hair that Alex has. Uh, I think

00:33:20.100 we're really going to regret this. They begrudgingly let me do it. Two months later, RFK comes out and

00:33:25.640 endorses Trump on stage. Now I was right. Um, and I made sure everybody knew it, but, but I could see

00:33:37.080 the writing on the wall because when I would talk about health and wellness issues and what's wrong

00:33:41.980 with our food system and what's wrong with the pharmaceutical industry being completely corrupted

00:33:45.780 in America, my numbers and my downloads were like four times the size. And so what happened was RFK

00:33:52.300 comes out on stage, endorses Trump says, we're going to focus on making America healthy. Again,

00:33:55.660 it's going to become a core tenant of the Trump campaign. President Trump is talking about it.

00:33:59.280 Now all of a sudden the conservative movement is well now who in the conservative movement is

00:34:02.440 focusing on health. It was me because I had started that transition about like a year ahead of time

00:34:06.840 with my content. And then my rebrand officially happened like two weeks after RFK comes out and

00:34:13.400 endorses Trump. And then I testify at the Senate on this issue. And it just all was like God opening

00:34:18.760 doors, like one after the, one after the other. And I became like the conservative health and wellness

00:34:25.060 girl. And I just thought like, okay, this is the time, like God was preparing me for this. I needed

00:34:30.280 to go through being the chicken nugget princess and getting all the Botox and thinking that GMOs were 0.97

00:34:36.520 stupid so that I could be the perfect person to kind of address these women who have been in the 0.98

00:34:42.200 same boat as me as Christian conservatives and millennials, especially being like, we were sold 1.00

00:34:46.580 a lie. I fell for it too. We have to completely change everything that we've known and thought

00:34:51.600 for our entire lives. If I would have been somebody that's, oh, I've always been drinking raw milk. I've

00:34:57.140 always said the birth control was poison. Nobody's going to listen to me, but I'm going through the

00:35:00.560 journey with them. So it worked out perfectly for me to kind of learn as I'm going at the same time

00:35:06.320 as my audience. And so I think that's bowed really well. But yeah, I mean, when I transitioned to all

00:35:10.480 of this, I was more excited. It was like, finally, I understood, like I liked politics, but I don't think

00:35:15.820 I ever felt like I was home. I don't think that I ever felt like this is what I'm going to do for the

00:35:20.480 rest of my life. And also I'm not an idiot. I've been in media and I've been hosting number one

00:35:25.060 shows since I was 18 years old in different markets, in different cities. I've been doing

00:35:28.040 this for a long time. Yeah. People might not know you have a background in radio. Yeah. So I started

00:35:31.960 doing morning radio with pop morning shows. I started as an 18 year old. And so I understand

00:35:37.840 that you have to be willing to, to grow, to move, to get uncomfortable in order to grow your audience

00:35:44.920 and to outlive, like to survive this industry. If you're like, I'm going to do the same thing

00:35:50.620 forever, never change, like no little shifts at all. Like your show's going to die. Like

00:35:55.520 you're not going to, to, to survive and pop. I'm sorry, but pop culture when I'm 40, it's

00:36:00.240 not going to, it's not going to work. So I understood that with that content also, there

00:36:05.300 was a very obvious expiration date. Brett Cooper is going to experience that. I mean, I've talked

00:36:10.800 to her about that. Like there comes a point with that content where it's like, okay, I have

00:36:14.580 to shift to something else or like, it's going to be silly me doing this. So it's like every

00:36:18.340 talent, if you start doing that in your teens or your twenties, like you shift over. I mean,

00:36:21.460 you see that with YouTubers all the time and everything that focus on pop culture. But I

00:36:26.240 just knew that healthy wellness is like forever. That's something that I can become a mother

00:36:29.960 with. I can, you know, have a family with and talk about this content and it doesn't seem

00:36:33.420 weird or out of place. You know, my content can shift to now focusing a lot more on kids

00:36:38.000 and whatever. And so it just was the right move. I felt like for longevity in my career

00:36:42.960 and, um, I fought tooth and nail for it and I'm so glad that I did. And, you know, same

00:36:48.360 with politics. When I started politics, basically everyone outside Turning Point thought this

00:36:53.300 is stupid. What a waste of time for the conservative movement. This is embarrassing for the conservative 1.00

00:36:57.780 movement. I was so made fun of on Twitter at the time for that show. Um, just people being

00:37:03.120 like, who the heck is this girl? This is the stupidest show I've ever seen. Like this is 1.00

00:37:05.900 an embarrassment to the, to the movement for them. It wasn't for them. And I knew

00:37:08.960 that I knew who I was talking to and they needed it and it was the right risk. And so

00:37:12.660 sometimes I think when it comes to wanting to have a career in media, especially in the

00:37:16.640 conservative movement, like you've got to find where is there a hole and where can I

00:37:22.040 kind of create a niche that is needed and create a product that doesn't exist. Um, and

00:37:26.860 a lot of people want to like get into what you and I do and just, I just want to talk about

00:37:29.700 conservative news. Sorry, but that's almost nearly impossible that you're going to be, be

00:37:33.600 a success. You have to be an absolute mega superstar like Candace Owens, Charlie 1.00

00:37:38.940 Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck. You have to be those types of people to survive. And almost

00:37:44.280 none of us are those people. I am not that person. I would be, you know, way over my

00:37:49.800 head. If I was going on college campuses and trying to debate kids, I would suck. You're 1.00

00:37:53.500 really good at debate. I am not, but what I know what I'm good at. And I stuck with that

00:37:57.480 and I've grown with that. And so, you know, it's people ask me all the time, like, well,

00:38:00.940 I want to do what you do or I want to do what Allie does. And it's, you have to really

00:38:03.820 focus on like, okay, what is super niche, find your niche. What is super unique about

00:38:07.940 me or a unique take that I can give? Like with you, it's always Christian biblical worldview

00:38:12.780 on cultural and political news. That's your niche. So like Allie is doing that. So anyway,

00:38:18.460 that's my advice for people that want to get into this and how can I grow and how can I

00:38:21.580 kind of survive this industry?

00:38:23.840 Do you have any misgivings about RFK within the Maha movement? Are you 100% gung-ho about

00:38:32.500 what he's going to do in the CDC? Do you have any concerns about his background,

00:38:37.600 about his abortion position? Or do you feel like in this role, like he's ready to rock and

00:38:42.580 it's going to be amazing?

00:38:43.820 I'm not concerned about RFK Jr. and his abortion views whatsoever as a pro-life conservative.

00:38:49.360 RFK Jr. and Trump said this, he's not touching anything besides the health stuff. I mean,

00:38:53.460 he has nothing to do with abortion. So while personally him and I disagree on a lot of things

00:38:58.680 politically, I mean, that's why I didn't want to vote for him as president because I do disagree

00:39:02.300 with him on abortion and foreign policy. And I mean, he agrees with like affirmative action and

00:39:07.700 different things that I don't. So as a president, disaster. As, you know, being in charge of health

00:39:15.020 and human services, absolute five-star incredible. He's going to bring back five-star gold science

00:39:22.080 standards that we've been needing desperately for decades. You know, we've got Dr. Marty McCary

00:39:28.080 in charge of the FDA. Yeah. Yeah. He's been on your show. So you know him and we got to testify

00:39:32.700 in the Senate. So that's where I met him. I didn't know who Marty was before that. And

00:39:36.140 Jay Bhattacharya, Dr. Bhattacharya, I think he's involved to some degree in the Trump administration

00:39:41.240 too. He's another one of those like, um, Ivy league educated doctors who, you know, came out

00:39:47.000 against the COVID mandates and all of that. So it's not just RFK. Like there are a lot of people

00:39:51.500 in those positions that are going to do good.

00:39:54.040 There's a lot of people that are going to do good. And listen, there's some people that I don't like.

00:39:57.420 I am not crazy about our USDA pick, uh, of, uh, department of agriculture, Brooke. She's

00:40:03.440 a seed oil lobbyist. Um, so that was an interesting choice that I disagree with. Yeah. Uh, so that

00:40:10.280 wasn't someone I would have chosen. I would have loved to see Congressman Massey in that

00:40:14.720 position. That's who I was rooting for. Uh, so, you know, that was a disappointment, but

00:40:18.780 with everything that's good, I think there's still a lot of changes that can be made that

00:40:23.160 will be beneficial. And maybe, you know, here's the thing too. And I've said this before,

00:40:27.420 when it comes to somebody like Brooke, who has ties to different things and food things

00:40:30.540 that I disagree with, I was doing that two years ago. You know, I wasn't who I am now

00:40:36.920 when it comes to health and wellness two years ago. So for her, you know, being in this

00:40:40.380 administration, hearing what she's going to hear now from people like Dr. Marty or RFK

00:40:44.540 junior, she could be changed and be like, Oh my gosh, everything that I did before in my 0.99

00:40:48.180 career, like I totally disagree with it. I've been completely changed. I have a change of

00:40:51.480 heart. I want to, you know, run the department of agriculture totally differently. I want to run

00:40:54.560 the USDA totally differently. Um, she could have, you know, a total mind change and we 0.80

00:40:59.360 don't know. So I don't want to say so much good. Like she will do a good job in that role.

00:41:03.720 She is a really good leader. I really like Brooke. I didn't know about some of the seed

00:41:07.340 oil stuff, but I think that's a good point that she could in the midst of this Maha 0.67

00:41:11.400 change her perspective on some of those really important things and then be the perfect fit.

00:41:15.760 Absolutely. Yeah.

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00:42:33.840 Okay. Let's talk about some fun stuff because we've got about 12 or so minutes left. I want to

00:42:43.580 talk about your love life, which you've been sort of open about on social media. You've shared about,

00:42:49.820 you know, singleness and the different guys that you've dated, but now you have a boyfriend named

00:42:55.080 Steve and this seems different than the past relationships you've had.

00:42:58.140 Oh, it's completely different. This is it. Okay. Tell me about them.

00:43:01.600 So nobody knows this, but Steve and I met on Hinge and I actually was home. I was, uh,

00:43:12.900 this is right when my dad passed away. And I mean, I was there for a very long time. I was home in

00:43:17.240 Indiana, bored to death, honestly, like just dealing with that, the ins and outs of that,

00:43:21.460 um, for like, you know, a little over three weeks. And I just thought one night, like, okay,

00:43:26.320 I'm just going to get on Hinge. I'm going to put my location back home in Scottsdale,

00:43:29.140 which is where I live. And I'm just going to swipe because there's just nothing else to do.

00:43:32.740 Um, and you know, I've been on Hinge off and on for a few years. Like I'll get on for a couple

00:43:36.300 months and then I'll delete it and I'll be off for a year or two and then I'll get back on. And,

00:43:40.340 um, so I was on there and he had this outrageous prompt that said something like pick our first date,

00:43:46.220 hot air balloon ride over Ukraine, candlelit dinner at the Gaza Strip, or like go get a polar

00:43:51.580 pop at Circle K, like some ghetto cross streets in Phoenix. And I laughed out loud. I was like, 1.00

00:43:55.760 this is like hilarious. Uh, and so not politically correct. And so I just commented, I said, like,

00:44:01.240 I'm obsessed with this. Like, this is hilarious. Like how many girls are like upset and offended 0.99

00:44:04.880 by this prompt. And so we started talking and I mean, it was like the wittiest, funniest back and

00:44:11.040 forth. And I texted my friends like after a couple hours of talking to him and he had gotten my number

00:44:16.420 and then we were texting and I texted my friends that night and I said, guys, this is so, I said,

00:44:20.140 I have not, I said, guys, this is crazy. Like I do not remember since high school ever talking to a

00:44:27.060 guy and laughing so hard that I'm crying. Like the entire time we're talking, like, I don't know.

00:44:32.060 I just have not, I mean, I've had like boyfriends and like different things that we had in common,

00:44:35.440 whatever, but nobody's like really made me laugh so hard. Like my stomach hurt. And this guy was so

00:44:40.140 funny. And like, and in the midst of this, we're having serious conversation. And I mean, I'm,

00:44:44.640 I'm like bringing stuff up and, and, and making sure that we're like aligned on different things.

00:44:48.080 And like, he's hitting all the marks and I'm like, what the heck? This is such an anomaly. And gosh,

00:44:51.760 it was so good to laugh too, in the midst of like dealing with such tremendous grief with my dad

00:44:57.280 passing away. And so it was like, it was just such a relief to like have that. And he, you know,

00:45:03.200 he's asking me like, what's going on? Um, you know, when are you home? Like, let's, let's go out.

00:45:07.680 And so I go on this first date. Did you know who you are? Had no idea. He didn't, he didn't follow you.

00:45:11.480 He, he saw like on my Hinge profile, it said podcaster, but I don't say anything besides that,

00:45:15.240 like for my job. And so he did ask, he's like, what podcast and things like that. And so when

00:45:19.320 he tells it now, he kind of roast me, he's like, yeah, I'm going to see this girl on Hinge. She's

00:45:22.260 like, I'm a podcaster. I'm like, okay, what's your real day job? And like, he kind of like made

00:45:26.600 fun of me. And then he's like, Oh, this is like legit. Yeah. Um, and so he had no idea who I was,

00:45:32.120 uh, had not really, I don't even think he had really voted in any election until this one.

00:45:37.840 And he, yeah, he had voted for Trump and that was like his first time voting. And so like,

00:45:40.860 he had just started like kind of dipping his toe in politics. So he's not like in this world

00:45:45.460 whatsoever. Like he knew who Charlie Kirk was, but like, that was about it. And so we go on this

00:45:50.640 first date from the moment we see each other, it's like lightning in a bottle, really insane

00:45:56.660 attraction. Can't stop talking, can barely eat our food because we just cannot stop talking to each

00:46:01.600 other. It's like, he's the male version of me, like a psychotic, uh, you know, funny witty,

00:46:06.580 like just off the wall. Like that is him. It's me as a guy. And I, we end up talking so long at the

00:46:14.980 dinner portion that we're like, okay, let's go to the next place. So we like go to another place and

00:46:17.600 get cocktails so we can keep talking. And then we talk so long there and then we shut that place

00:46:21.780 down. We're like, okay, well we, we're not done talking like that. I mean, we're going on like

00:46:24.240 seven, eight hours on this first date. He lives very near there. So we go to his place. He has like a

00:46:28.400 beautiful rooftop with like a fire pit and stuff. So he grabs me a sweatshirt, uh, cause I had like a

00:46:32.940 little dress and boots on and we go up on his roof and we light a fire cause it's still pretty

00:46:36.200 cold. It's January. And, uh, we sit up there and we're talking for like another four hours and I,

00:46:42.840 and that date, I'm like, I'm taking this with me because I knew I was like, if I take this

00:46:47.780 sweatshirt with me, he has to see me again to get it back. So he texts his friends and he says,

00:46:52.000 she took my sweatshirt. Uh, so I'd have to see her again. I like this one. And I texted my friends

00:46:56.860 and I, they said, okay, one word overall, like what's your thoughts on this date? And I said, peace.

00:47:02.040 I had never felt so myself, so completely like secure and like everything about this man, the

00:47:09.600 physical chemistry, the intellectual chemistry, the emotional connection, everything was perfect.

00:47:16.080 Just clicked. Just clicked. And I also want to say this, and I know we have a short amount of time.

00:47:21.120 It's okay. The Christian circles on social media who say it is overrated, overblown. You do not need to

00:47:30.560 have any type of physical or sexual chemistry with the person that you marry. I just did a rant on

00:47:34.800 this. They are lying to you and they are setting you up for failure. Yeah. You also do not have to

00:47:40.780 have sex to know if you have sexual physical chemistry with somebody. You do not, you know,

00:47:46.860 instantly if you have sexual chemistry with somebody, it is something that's intangible.

00:47:51.600 It's indescribable. And I've been on plenty of dates that was like, Oh, he hits every box or

00:47:55.720 whatever. But like, I don't feel that like spark, like you should be with somebody that you are

00:48:01.080 marrying that you're like, I cannot wait to have sex with this person. Like I cannot wait. That is 0.97

00:48:05.480 like an absolute no brainer. The Christian people that are like, it doesn't really matter. That 1.00

00:48:09.860 shouldn't be, it is extremely important. It is. So I felt all of that with him. And one of the moments

00:48:14.520 was, which was like a non-sexual thing that I was like, Ooh, like this is amazing because I think

00:48:19.440 it's important for the single girlies that are like holding out. They're like, I wish I just want to have it 1.00

00:48:22.900 all. Like I want like the physical connection. I want the faith connection. Like I want to be

00:48:26.520 aligned biblically. I want to be aligned, you know, politically. You can wait for this. And

00:48:30.980 like this, it used to drive me nuts when people were like, when you know, you know, and I used to be

00:48:34.800 like, stop saying that. It is so annoying to me as somebody who really wants to be married. And like,

00:48:39.000 I'm waiting for this. Like that didn't make sense until I met him. And now it makes sense.

00:48:42.580 So now I get it, which is very frustrating for people that are single, but let me tell you something

00:48:45.840 that happened. When we were walking on the side of the street, there came a point where I was on the

00:48:49.480 outside and he was on the inside and to move me to be on the inside of the street. Like as a

00:48:55.500 gentleman, he put his hands kind of like on my waist and kind of moved my body like quick, like fast

00:49:01.740 inside. And I was like, Oh my gosh, that like very non-sexual touch. I like, it was like electricity.

00:49:08.120 Yeah. Um, when we kiss electricity, but like everything else so aligned. And by our second date too,

00:49:14.940 let me say this, it's clarity and direction and leading on the second date, he looked at me and

00:49:20.640 our second date was church together. Our second date, he looked at me after we left Costi's church

00:49:25.980 and he said, you're not going to see anybody else. I'm not seeing anybody else. I think we can call

00:49:30.760 this what it is. We're dating. Uh, a couple of weeks later said, I love you said like, I know you're

00:49:38.540 the person that I'm going to marry. Wait, when did this start? What month was this? It was first.

00:49:42.460 Our first date was first week of January. Okay. So really recent. This is, this is soon,

00:49:46.780 but it's like, it's one of those things where it's like, we absolutely know. Um, and he,

00:49:52.080 what's interesting too, is that he was the person that his friends were like, I don't know that he's

00:49:55.780 ever going to get married. Like they'd ask him every day he'd go on or whatever. It's like,

00:49:59.420 what do you think about her? Like, are you excited about it? Like he was never excited about anybody.

00:50:03.740 In fact, his hinge profile said, cause it gives you the option to say like, do you want to have kids?

00:50:08.680 And his said unsure. And that really freaked me out. Yeah. So that was like my one, like super

00:50:15.120 red flag about him before our first date. I said, I need to ask you about this because

00:50:18.180 if I'm not even going on the date with you, if this is the case, I said,

00:50:21.540 why does your hinge profile say unsure about kids? And he said, well, I've just never met a girl that

00:50:27.260 I could see being the wife and mother, you know, that I'm imagining. And so I've been like, well,

00:50:32.080 geez, I don't know. Like, I don't know that I can picture myself having kids and you know,

00:50:35.300 every serious girlfriend he's had and everything's like, I don't know. I don't know that I want kids.

00:50:38.220 And then he met me and he was like, I want everything with you. Like, I want the family.

00:50:41.900 I want everything. His, his parents, his best friends were all like, I mean, I've read the

00:50:46.060 messages of like, Oh, this is it. Like, we've never seen you talk about a girl like this. Like

00:50:50.160 we know this is it. Um, and met his family already. He's meeting mine. I have to go home to Indiana to do

00:50:57.060 my dad's memorial service. We kind of delayed it to get out of winter months. Cause I am from Indiana.

00:51:00.880 So we wanted people to be able to like show up. So just to make sure we're out of, uh, winter and

00:51:05.640 like it's beautiful weather, hopefully, uh, we're having my dad's memorial in April. And so he's

00:51:10.180 going to come with me. He's going to meet everybody. Uh, he's met some of my friends. He's going to meet

00:51:14.100 more of my friends, uh, there. And, um, yeah, we, we went ring shopping. That was a surprise on your

00:51:19.920 birthday, right? On my birthday. He took me ring shopping. He showed up and he said, we're going ring

00:51:24.440 shopping. So I did like a whole birthday weekend and the day before we went ring shopping, he said,

00:51:30.080 so do you want to know what one of your birthday surprises is? And I was like, well, sure. And he's

00:51:33.840 like, it's kind of an experience. And I was like, yeah, you know, I had no idea. Yeah. And he was

00:51:38.340 like, how would you like to go look at rings tomorrow? And I just sat with that for a second.

00:51:44.940 Cause like, I've wanted to hear that my entire life and not just with anybody. See, it's with him

00:51:49.360 that I'm like anyone else. I probably would've got real nervous. Like, cause I don't know, there's

00:51:53.000 things I need to work out. And that's the thing too, with talking about with him, with my friends,

00:51:56.060 it was like, it was always like a boyfriend. Well, he's amazing, but like, ah, everything's

00:52:01.440 so good. I really like him, but there's this one thing that like, we just kind of need to

00:52:04.360 work through whatever with him. I have no butts. I have no things that I'm worried about or need 0.66

00:52:08.740 to work through or like have questions or concerns, like none of it. Like, and so when he said, do you

00:52:13.360 want to go ring shopping? You know, and it was just to get, I want to do a custom design for my ring.

00:52:17.500 So it was more to like, get an idea of cut size color. Like we didn't buy anything. Like he's going to

00:52:22.600 add a few other things to it that I don't know about. So like when he does finally propose,

00:52:26.340 which I don't know when that will be, I think soon, but when that does happen, then I'm not

00:52:31.540 going to know anything else. And like, I'll be surprised with the final product, but he needed,

00:52:34.560 and I needed an idea of like cut and stone and size and all that. Cause also I think it's important.

00:52:40.280 And some girls are like, I got some comments when I posted that, that I disagreed with saying like, 1.00

00:52:44.860 well, if you're really marrying a guy that really, truly loves you, he should just know what you want.

00:52:48.380 Uh, no, I am extremely particular about everything that I wear, how I do my hair, my makeup. I mean,

00:52:54.240 anything like style wise, like I need to have a say in it. And I've never, I've never looked or

00:52:59.160 tried on wedding dresses. I've never looked or tried on rings. I have no idea what I want because

00:53:02.820 I knew that I wanted to save that moment to do all of it the first time when I knew I met my husband.

00:53:07.200 And so I, you know, went and tried things on and everything for the first time. I didn't know what

00:53:12.440 I wanted. So I had to have that experience. So I think it's, there's nothing wrong with

00:53:16.800 going ring shopping before your guy proposes. And you still want to love it in 10 years.

00:53:20.680 Well, exactly. And I do, I like still love my ring so much, but you know what? I sent a picture

00:53:25.280 to Chief Related Bro, like, this is what I want. He got a ring and his sister, my blessed sister-in-law

00:53:31.460 was like the ring that he got. I was like, that doesn't look like what she showed you.

00:53:35.360 And I eventually saw a picture of what he originally got. It was not what I wanted,

00:53:39.000 but he went back to the jewelry store and got what I wanted. And I still love my ring so much.

00:53:44.220 So it's important to give specifications.

00:53:46.060 I just thought that was stupid to be like, well, you know, this just speaks to like, 0.79

00:53:49.060 he doesn't know her very well. That's why he has to take her with. I'm like, uh, no, 0.99

00:53:51.640 he knows me so well that he knows that I would want to go with to pick that out. Um, so anyway,

00:53:56.440 yeah, I, we're, I mean, he told me you're, we're going to be married by the end of the year.

00:54:01.760 Wow. Yeah. Okay. So short engagement, which I'm totally for.

00:54:04.680 Totally for. Cause I told you.

00:54:06.340 Yes. I said the same thing last week when Chief Related Bro was on. I said, I hated when people said,

00:54:10.980 when you know, you know, and I really just like wanted some kind of formula, but it's not,

00:54:16.140 it really is that can't eat, can't sleep. I have to be with this person. And of course it's more than

00:54:22.720 that too. You have to be able to picture a future with them. Of course, it's a given that you have

00:54:26.520 to have the same values. They have to be a strong Christian, all of these things, but you also have

00:54:32.700 to click with them and love them and want to be with them. I just think romance is a gift that God

00:54:36.660 gave us and it would be silly to squander it. And so I love it. I love your story so much.

00:54:41.700 I'm so excited for you. I mean, the internet is going to freak out when you get engaged and you

00:54:46.320 got to meet him. Yes, I did. Yeah. Very brief, very briefly. You got to meet him and, um, you know,

00:54:51.880 everyone that's met him has loved him and like, Oh my gosh, he's literally, he's literally you as a 0.88

00:54:55.400 guy, like you guys are so silly together. And you know, I have always said that it was such this weird

00:55:00.620 specific thing that I knew I wanted. Like I needed somebody that was kind of like a psychopath hamster 0.50

00:55:04.620 like me and, and he is, but also, you know, Christian conservative, all the other things 0.85

00:55:09.220 that I wanted to do. Can you say, yeah, he, uh, so he has a business where he helps people

00:55:15.280 that own blue collar businesses understand like Facebook marketing, things like that to

00:55:19.100 scale their business. Because a lot of people that like, if you're in landscaping or window

00:55:22.640 washing or, uh, you know, paint exterior painting services or things like that, they're so good

00:55:27.520 at their skillset, but they don't understand like how to grow on social media and like do use

00:55:32.060 marketing to their advantage on Facebook and stuff.

00:55:34.620 To get customers. So he helps train them on how to do that. Uh, so that's his, his thing. And then

00:55:39.420 he also owns one of the biggest Christmas light companies, uh, residential and commercial Christmas

00:55:44.740 lights in the Valley, which is what we call Phoenix area. So he has his own blue collar business

00:55:49.560 scaled that and grew that. And then he teaches people how to do what he did.

00:55:52.880 I love it. I love it. Match made in heaven. This is amazing. I'm so excited for everything going on

00:55:57.820 for you professionally and personally. I've got to get you out of here or else I'm going to get in 0.57

00:56:01.840 trouble. Cause you've got another show to go on Alex. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.

00:56:06.400 Thank you very much.

00:56:14.200 Thank you.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 03, 2025

Ep 1149 ｜ Alex Clark on Finding the One & Why She’s Thankful for Botox

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