00:07:44.820And, you know, the – so many strange things happened around that time that I just really – I saw, like – I saw some things that were just, like, in the strictly materialistic world don't make sense.
00:09:04.680And then I decided to write it up and share it because I know that people are very spiritually lost right now, people that I know closest to me who may – might not understand exactly what it is that I'm doing with my life right now because they're just like – you know, is Nicole now like a right-wing Christian nationalist?
00:09:31.840Because that's how progressives would explain such a thing.
00:09:46.120Can you talk about how in between your miscarriage and posting the baptism video, there were a few months there, and I know you said that you felt like you could understand the intentions of God more.
00:09:59.760But can you talk specifically about – because you converted to Judaism a few years ago.
00:10:19.000I started paying more attention to Christianity a few months into the campaign.
00:10:30.180For one, I started spending a lot of time with Zach Henry, who is – he helped launch Vivek, Ramaswamy's political career, and he was part of Vivek's team that I had interviewed when I decided to run for vice president.
00:10:46.780Zach is an evangelical Christian from Texas.
00:11:11.840I spent all my time in progressive circles.
00:11:15.360And white Christian evangelical nationalists were destroying America, right?
00:11:22.240And oftentimes painted as radicals who are unempathetic, love Trump or Trump sycophants, and are just – how do I – like non-intellectual, unintellectual.
00:12:07.360Also really smart, incredible tech savvy, one of the best writers I've ever met, learned my voice like within a few weeks, was able to like – we work together so well.
00:12:19.420Probably one of the favorite people I've ever worked with.
00:12:52.760And Zach saw me on some pretty rough days and he had compassion.
00:12:57.580He would walk – he would just kind of explain his political analysis, but he would do so from a place of just patience, but also his references.
00:13:11.140He would include biblical references at times too.
00:13:14.780And I'd be like that's a really interesting analogy.
00:13:17.000And then I would like kind of go and like prod more and ask about some of these biblical references.
00:13:22.220Because I'm aware of the Torah, but when you pair the Torah with the New Testament, something totally different happens.
00:13:30.000And you've got now this expectation that you can be this great person.
00:13:41.640That others – you can be genuinely great in your own body, but you can also create this experience for others around you of like this is the good and just thing to do.
00:13:53.520And I think that example is what those who follow in the way of Christ and really think of Jesus as an individual.
00:14:06.460They seek to create that atmosphere for others.
00:14:11.240And it's that seeking of like I have modeled and studied a way of being that creates peace and harmony in this world and that is how I want to be.
00:14:24.680And that is what Zach brought to our team consistently day after day.
00:14:36.880But there is a sense of right and bad and when things were going bad, he would intervene and he would do so effectively without any hyperbole, without any like superfluous, unnecessary kind of emotions.
00:14:50.580It was kind of always like the right emotion.
00:14:52.820The right emotion brought to the right situation.
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00:16:38.720So did you have a hard time believing at any point, like the core message of Christianity, not just that Jesus is a model for our lives, but that he is God, that he died for our sins, rose again, that he's the way to the Father?
00:17:02.040Because I think a lot of people can kind of accept that Jesus was a good moral teacher, he was a good example, but this idea that we are sinners and that we need a Savior and that he is our sacrifice, did you have to kind of grapple with that at all?
00:17:19.260I think about it a lot every single day because it's a completely different way of existing.
00:17:26.120It's this way – and so I talk about it in my baptism story, Diane Robinson, who came into my life in the weeks – in the week after I came out of the hospital.
00:17:42.760So that first week of October, 2024, I meet Diane Robinson, who is the lead chaplain at Santa Rita Jail, and I was introduced to her actually through my masseuse, who's a devout Christian, very kind man, and has become a good friend of mine.
00:18:01.960And so she comes because she was told that I had had this horrible miscarriage, I had almost lost my life, and I was pretty shaken that next week.
00:18:16.340You know, first of all, my milk came in, and then you have no baby.
00:18:53.600And in many ways for the world to see.
00:18:55.680It's like they see bits and pieces of it, but, like, you know, what happens in my personal life oftentimes is, like, a microcosm of something that's happening on the national stage or bigger.
00:19:07.840And so, you know, I get home from losing my child, realizing I have this, like, weird blood clotting issue, probably a vaccine injury from the mRNA because that's one of the things that happens.
00:19:22.040And knowing that, like, like, my situation is not unique.
00:19:25.880There are many women that are having horrible miscarriages all over this country right now.
00:19:30.060So, you know, we have terrible maternal mortality issues.
00:20:16.500Like, all I can think about is the four liters of blood I lost and the transfusion I had and, like, how I'm, like, full of all these other people.
00:20:22.700Like, the last thing I want to think about is blood right now.
00:20:26.220And so she's, she's, like, no, you don't.
00:20:29.460You have to understand the power of Jesus' blood because it's a covenant.
00:20:34.940And that covenant is the most sacred covenant.
00:20:41.780And, like, you know, I've heard these terms and these terms, they don't really fully make sense until you realize that, like, the world that we are inhabiting right now is so full of pain.
00:20:59.500And my world was so full of pain in that moment.
00:21:02.240And it's still, you know, there's still pain.
00:21:07.480But to know that you're not alone, that, like, Jesus' blood was shed for us humans in this world of pure discord so that we know our souls belong to him.
00:21:35.340And our souls belong to God and that God loves us so deeply that even in our moment of pain and death, we actually can know 100% without any doubt that, like, we are in God's kingdom.
00:21:53.720Like, we are in God's kingdom as we live and breathe and as we retire our bodies.
00:22:01.500And it's really funny hearing myself say this because I've heard other people say this before and it didn't, it made, it made no sense to me.
00:22:21.080And I don't know if that's the case, but I will say that there's this sense of waking and breathing every day now that it's, like, I know from moment to moment, even when I'm on my knees, God loves me.
00:22:58.880You know, and if people criticize me or take me, you know, like, publish slander about me all over the press or even threaten to take my child away from me, I will do the right thing.
00:23:23.240So we're kind of, like, working backwards, which I love because I want to talk about – I'm sure that your political awakening or the changes in your political worldview also, like, played a part in your, like, theological and spiritual awakening too.
00:23:42.980Let's talk a bit more about the campaign.
00:23:45.320I mean, you spoke of some just, like, really dark moments of seeing the very clear dichotomy of good and evil when you were up close and personal in the world of politics.
00:23:58.620I saw people turn their backs on me so quickly, people that I had given money to who came to me because they were like, you know, Nicole, I want to help.
00:24:10.400You know, and it's, like, these are people who came to me and I helped every single time.
00:24:18.480You know, I've always believed that the purpose of wealth is to help those in need.
00:24:23.180And I would show up every single time.
00:24:26.860You know, mothers that I would give my daughter's baby clothes to, you know, kids whose birthdays I helped celebrate during the pandemic because they couldn't, you know, have birthdays.
00:24:41.200A woman who wanted to buy the first Afro-Indigenous farm in Sonoma, like, no problem.
00:24:50.440Indigenous women who are like, we need money to get this movie published on land back.
00:24:57.020And I'm like, yes, you know, like, you deserve sovereignty and agency.
00:31:19.600And there was, prior to joining politics, I couldn't see anything negative to Planned Parenthood
00:31:29.220and what it represented and what it stood for.
00:31:31.540Because since I was a little girl, the women's movement was always around abortion and the
00:31:39.020freedom to choose and bodily autonomy.
00:31:41.360And I, and I, and I, and that was one that even like months in was, was something that I, I, I, it was, I couldn't imagine ever being pro-life, right?
00:32:00.700Or, or, or understanding pro, pro, pro, the pro-life perspective.
00:32:05.460And, and, and, and, you know, my liberal brain is like, oh, whatever, you know, like there, there, it's just this liberal, liberal progressive brain is always like, okay, always prioritize minorities.
00:32:29.960Like always prioritize minority opinions, minority nonprofits, you know, X, Y, and Z, like, and so Angela comes to me and of course I'm like, yes, you know, what do you need me to do?
00:51:26.640Like you mentioned before, if you're against all these progressive stances, then you're anti-science.
00:51:32.440But I find that progressives tend to not believe that science has anything to tell us about, say, gender or sex.
00:51:41.600Or it doesn't have anything to tell us about gestation.
00:51:44.260Or it doesn't have anything to tell us about how reproduction should work.
00:51:48.360Like natural biological science almost, it seems to the progressive worldview, gives us no relevant information for how we should act and the choices we should make.
00:51:59.540But at the same time, they will say that conservatives are the ones that are anti-science.
00:52:04.180That's just kind of a disconnect that I've noticed.
00:52:07.100Well, I think progressives spend so much time making an enemy out of conservatives and Christians that progressives end up getting fixated on that enemy.
00:53:50.020Another pause to tell you guys about Hillsdale.
00:53:52.720We know academia in the United States, unfortunately, has been mostly entirely captured by progressive ideologues.
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00:54:29.460It is a Christian pro-America university that actually tells their students how to think or teaches them how to think, how to critically think, how to research, but also is instilling within them really good values.
00:54:45.460Right now, they've got all of these online courses available to you totally for free, so you can see what Hillsdale is about.
00:54:52.880You can learn about the works of C.S. Lewis, the stories in the Book of Genesis, the meaning of the U.S. Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic.
00:55:15.460I want to go back to something that you said that was on my list of things to talk about, and we just didn't get to it at the moment, but you mentioned your daughter being diagnosed with autism.
00:55:30.760You were in the midst of a custody battle, which caused kind of discord in your life, but your daughter being diagnosed with autism a few years ago was also kind of a turning point or a waking up point for you, right?
00:55:42.260When it came to – I don't know if it's progressivism in general or just the healthcare system in America.
00:55:56.980And this was right during – it was actually the second month of lockdowns that she was diagnosed with autism.
00:56:07.960So I have a company that I had spent seven years building at that point, Clear Access IP, and it was the most sophisticated natural language model in AI using deep learning at the time.
00:56:22.880It was really – I was so proud of it, and it was in the patent space because I believed – I so deeply – and I still do.
00:56:31.780I still believe that the power of human innovation to create good is exceptional.
00:56:37.120And my whole life up until that point was around patents, the innovation system, trading patents, accelerating human innovation for the betterment of humanity.
00:56:46.980So my company is doing fairly well, but then lockdown and then autism diagnosis happened at the same time.
00:56:57.240And I ended up having to make a decision if I was going to continue running my company or be a full-time autism mom, and it became more and more clear that my daughter was going to need more of me.
00:57:09.400And so in those months, I sold my company, which was the thing that I had been so glued to every single day for seven-plus years.
00:57:22.760So I sell my company, and then I do a deep dive into autism while the world is in lockdown, believing every word the mainstream media was saying about COVID.
00:57:35.260And it's just – it still took – it took me a really long time.
00:57:42.680It took me actually until the end of 2022 to realize that the world – there was somehow this takeover that happened overnight while none of us were paying attention,
00:57:58.560that the world had literally been taken over by a new cadre of leadership.
01:00:06.840And realized that the world of autism – I can remember very specifically a call I had with a neurologist who just – and I'm calling about my child, right?
01:00:17.600Like, I don't know about the politics of autism at that point.
01:00:20.960I'm just like, tell me what's going on.
01:00:26.360He goes, the behaviorists have taken over the field of autism.
01:00:30.600It is biomedical, neurologists like me that try to get our work and voices out that there's something biomedically going on with these kids.
01:01:03.520I'm like – because I'm just like trying – I'm like doing what every mom does.
01:01:06.380I'm just trying to figure out what my – what's going on with my kid and how to help her.
01:01:10.580So, you know, as I do more of that, I actually then realize that the behaviorists, including Stanford Autism Center and ABA and PRT and all of this, like, behavioral stuff, is really being run by individuals that are very conflicted because they're, like, trying to establish themselves as being the leaders in autism.
01:01:40.040And in order to do that, you need money.
01:01:43.820So within, like, this period of time, I'm just trying to get my daughter support and people are trying to fundraise off of her.
01:01:55.140They're like, oh, you know, I'll help you with this, but I'm going to send you a grant request.
01:02:13.780They're like, well, that doesn't feel great.
01:02:15.500And I'm like, okay, well, there's a conflict.
01:02:16.840So I'm going to put you guys over there who want money from me for autism and the people who are actually helping my child, I want to leave unconflicted.
01:02:23.920But the behaviorists are very aggressive in protecting their narrative, which now I look back and I'm like, that was a red flag.
01:03:01.300It's the manual for diagnosing mental disorders.
01:03:06.780And this happened – it's been kind of ongoing and the behaviorists have always believed that like it's just something psychological.
01:03:17.560Now, you know, at this point I realize autism is definitely not just behavioral and it's definitely not just psychological because my child is showing real signs of medical issues.
01:03:29.200Like screaming pain, inability to control her arms.
01:03:34.460She like flaps her arms, biting herself, self-injury.
01:03:41.020Like she actually cannot speak and I'm like, why can't she speak?
01:03:44.820Like it's not – like no amount of speech therapy is helping.
01:03:48.780At this point I have her in speech therapy for multiple years.
01:03:51.980Like, you know, she just actually cannot speak.
01:04:35.660Because big pharma, this is the biggest secret big pharma has been trying to keep from us is that perhaps there is something going on with either vaccines or with medications or in our environment or untreated illnesses that result in an autism diagnosis.
01:04:57.140So would that like show up with that symptomatology?
01:05:27.200And every doctor who is trained by the mainstream medical industry will say, we don't know what causes this, which is true.
01:05:39.240The scientific community has not done the proper inquiry to figure out what causes autism.
01:05:44.780And, you know, then once you go there, you find an RFK and you find all those other mamas who have been silenced over the years and all of those doctors who have been silenced over the years.
01:06:00.360And all of those papers who have been silenced over the years and all of those scientists that are too afraid to do that inquiry or are producing research around that inquiry, you find all of them.
01:06:17.380And then you realize, holy smokes, this is the biggest cover up.
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01:08:12.340Was it specifically vaccines that you were convinced were at least partly causing the autism epidemic?
01:08:26.960So there is, if you really go down the research path, you will find that there's a mitochondrial element to autism or co-occurring medical conditions to autism.
01:09:06.320So what happens to some people and people with autoimmune issues is that you have to be very careful with causing an immune reaction.
01:09:16.860Because there's some degree of autoimmune dysregulation.
01:09:20.220There's some degree of autoimmune issues.
01:09:22.300So any time one of, you know, an individual with both mitochondrial and immune issues, if they go in or they're already battling a viral infection and they're immune activated and they go in and they get a vaccine, that is a very risky situation.
01:09:41.560And if you look at the vaccine insert, right, which none of us actually get to look at.
01:09:48.600And I've heard from parent after parent that when they've asked their doctor to look at that vaccine insert, the doctor will be like, no, very defensive.
01:09:55.900You might need to find a new pediatrician.
01:10:00.980But if you actually get an opportunity to look at the possible risks of all kinds of vaccinations that are standard on the childhood vaccine schedule, there's encephalitis, which is, you know, brain swelling.
01:10:18.720There's, you know, all kinds of very serious acute issues that can happen.
01:10:25.760What they don't necessarily talk about is the chronic issues that occur if one of these acute responses happens.
01:10:53.040And there's been story after story about mothers calling in, fathers calling in to the doctors and saying, hey, my child got this horrible rash after the vaccine.
01:11:01.260I mean, it's not, probably not the vaccine or if it is, don't worry, they'll get through it.
01:11:06.680Um, so we're ignoring, um, a very, very part of healthcare, which is how to screen a child before a vaccination and then how to pick up and screen for adverse reactions that could turn into a chronic lifelong issue in that individual.
01:11:50.840You mentioned that that obviously created conflict with your then husband, but you were also in this kind of like tech world, this tech wives world.
01:12:00.980And you've talked about before, I heard you talk about in an interview that these tech wives are very progressive.
01:12:07.100And sometimes they are spearheading the philanthropic progressive causes, not just in Silicon Valley, but really like across the country.
01:12:15.040And so I imagine as you're kind of going through this, of course, at the time you didn't consider yourself conservative, but you're starting to like piece things together or against your husband, probably against a lot of people in that community.
01:12:26.780Like, can, can, can you tell me a little bit more about what that world is like?
01:12:32.420How deeply indoctrinated is it in progressive ideology?
01:12:36.860And also it's, you know, kind of a three part question.
01:12:39.120Like, what was it like for you as you were kind of waking up to everything?
01:12:41.780I think at the heart of the progressive billionaire wife mafia is a real desire to want to be liked, to, to do, to give back and to be celebrated for doing good work.
01:13:01.320Um, and there is an ego, a belief that they were brought up in a way, many were at highly educated, many have professional backgrounds, great degrees from great institutions.
01:13:22.400Um, but then the wealth sets in, and if you think about the trajectory, these women go on once the wealth comes in, usually the wealth comes in, not necessarily because their tech husband is this exceptional entrepreneur.
01:13:42.560It's because what I've realized is that the government helped fund their husband at some point along the way.
01:13:50.220If you look at like the history of Google or the history of Facebook or the history of Apple, even the history of, of, you know, not so much Amazon, but like even Hewlett Packard or Oracle, um, these companies didn't just spring up out of nowhere.
01:14:17.520They came through institutional backing at some point in the case of, you know, Facebook and Google, especially, um, where a lot of these tech wife mafia folks come from, um, it was Stanford.
01:14:38.960There's just like, there's this like, there's this Silicon Valley, Stanford network.
01:14:43.300And if you look at where some of those grants or money came from, early money, especially, and then accelerant money, it came from individuals that had government ties.
01:14:54.300Um, and so these companies serve government functions as well.
01:14:59.620Like Google really was involved with the government in helping identify behavior on the internet and Facebook as well.
01:15:10.780And so it's no surprise that the intertwining between the Democratic Party, which is so prevalent in California and these companies has just always been there.
01:15:24.220And that relationship has always been there.
01:15:25.620Um, and, you know, I don't think that the wives necessarily are bad people, but I think that their worlds are so small and they actually have no idea how small those worlds are until you, because they can't break free of it.
01:17:35.280Specifically through a network of non-NGO advisors, relationship with Hollywood, relationship with Davos, and their own companies.
01:17:56.940So if you look at like who's on these boards, who hangs out with each other, how the culture of tech wealth works, like Silicon Valley tech wealth and that small group of people responsible for a huge amount of money and a huge amount of NGO activity across the United States.
01:18:18.500It's a really small group of people and it's a really small group of people making these decisions.
01:18:23.460And then completely blind to everything else that's going on and how their groundwork is being used to then enable these other policies, these Great Reset policies.
01:19:38.320I really believed that I was giving black communities a chance to, like, rise up out of oppression.
01:19:45.960I really believed that I was helping indigenous communities rise up out of oppression.
01:19:50.120And now that I look back and see how all those grants are performing, you know, because my version of success is those communities are actually uplifted.
01:21:31.220Yes, and you looked at the criminal justice-focused things and said, or social justice-focused things says, yes, that's how I'm going to dedicate my money, and you're telling me you're going to uplift these communities.
01:21:43.400So these progressive entities would come to you and ask for money.
01:21:46.240You would give them the money, and you're saying that none of the programs or anything that they actually installed or instilled went anywhere positive.
01:21:54.700Well, I think that the programs themselves would run, right?
01:22:20.160And so you're like, and then the thing about NGOs is once they're up and running, they're designed to do one thing, raise more money, hire more people.
01:27:32.060And, and, and I want to, and I want to, to help bring that sanity back because the sad thing is, is when you get wrapped up in the political chaos, you lose yourself too.
01:27:43.640You use your, you lose your, you lose your, you lose your ability to care for yourself, you lose your ability to, I believe, live, you know, in a good, in a, in a way that connects you to God.
01:28:14.420And, and, and, and I believe many progressives do have strong relationships with God and there's a lot of chaos there.
01:28:23.660There's a lot of anger and there's a lot of discord.
01:28:27.320And I really believe that if there's a way to just continue doing the work, whether it's through campaigns, through a book, through podcasts, through media, through journalism, through conversations, through events.
01:28:47.260If there's a way for, for me to contribute the proper way, right, which is no longer through philanthropy, but actually through just living the life that, like, and, and contributing to communities in a way that the communities feel empowered, whether that's a recall, right?
01:29:09.920If the community of LA wants a recall, they get a recall.
01:29:21.960So if the community wants a recall, I believe my job as a person with means in the state of California who wants to help these communities, like really help these communities self-govern, they get a recall.
01:29:36.180So it's a, it's a completely different way of thinking about charitable works, but I think it's the way that if everyone kind of reframed their giving to what do the people want versus what does the NGO need, we will be able to solve all the problems in an authentic way.
01:30:03.680I'm hopeful about the work that you're doing.
01:30:06.600And I know that the, like, the passion, the vigor that you feel, especially for moms who are trying to figure things out for their kids, who want a better world for their kids.
01:30:15.940I mean, that is so emblematic of the whole Maha movement.
01:30:18.600But that's very relatable to a lot of people listening, no matter what side of the aisle they're on.