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00:26:49.900What happens to people at birth and before birth actually matters.
00:26:53.920And then there's this also very disturbing study, a 2023 study from the Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology, this clinic, outcome reporting system.
00:27:05.580So it's a long it's a long acronym there.
00:27:08.020Found that between 2014 and 2020, 32% of surrogacy pregnancies by American women were for buyers outside of the U.S.
00:27:18.30042% of those buyers were men of Asian descent, mostly from China.
00:27:28.880The U.S., as I've said, is the Wild West of reproductive technology.
00:27:32.440People from all over the world buy our sperm, buy our eggs, rent the wombs, buy the babies, take them home for who knows what.
00:27:42.660We already know there is an egg farm that's run by China where these women are stimulated with a hormone there so that their eggs, they basically go through hyperovulation.
00:27:56.380They go through this very painful process.
00:27:58.020So those eggs can then be sold on the market.
00:28:01.700I'm sure there's something like that for sperm as well.
00:28:04.180But it seems to be women who are extremely vulnerable in these situations.
00:28:07.620We already know there's an organ harvesting black market that exists.
00:28:11.760We know that child sex trafficking exists and surrogacy plays a part in all of that.
00:28:17.520Yet most people won't say anything about this because they are scared of being called homophobic.
00:28:23.740Because they know it is very often men using these services in order to procure a child, to buy a child, rent a womb, and buy DNA to create this child.
00:28:35.260So they don't want to say anything because what will people do who really want to be parents?
00:28:39.840Look, adult wants don't get to trump the well-being of children.
00:28:46.460You've got women very often who are desperate for money, especially when you're talking about women in Ukraine and in other poor countries who become surrogates.
00:30:04.440We're talking to my friend Josh Hammer about some other very important news stories unrelated to The Handmaid's Tale, but always including the stupidity of left-wing ideology and how it really deludes people's not only their brain, but also their hearts and really kind of atrophies the soul with its lies.
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00:31:37.600But I want to talk about this headline first from the Wall Street Journal.
00:31:41.020Trump administration plans to freeze family planning grants.
00:31:44.320So WSJ reported that the Trump administration is planning to freeze the family planning grants to organizations like Planned Parenthood as it investigates things like DEI initiatives, which has the potential to remove $20 million in funding from Planned Parenthood.
00:32:00.600Seems to me like that is a good start.
00:32:02.740It's not the finish line, but it's a good start.
00:32:08.180I would say it's a very, very good start.
00:32:10.100I mean, you can go back, Allie, and look back in the very first week or two of the administration.
00:32:14.140There were various other pro-life executive orders that came out as well when it comes to restoring the Mexico City policy, which puts very strong restrictions on taxpayer subsidization of abortion in foreign countries here.
00:32:25.680This is another very, very notable development as well there.
00:32:29.760Ultimately, Planned Parenthood has to be defunded of every single federal penny of taxpayer dollar, period, full stop, end of story.
00:32:36.940And I think that this is a very meaningful step on the way to that.
00:32:40.160It's not the finish line, as you said there, but all the indications are that this administration is heading in the right direction.
00:32:46.080Now, Allie, in my own capacity, I wasn't skeptical, but I was asking questions at least about RFK at HHS.
00:32:54.240I happen to actually largely agree with RFK on some of his vaccine stances and things like that.
00:33:01.040Rather, I was concerned because he's a lifelong abortion advocate.
00:33:04.340I mean, he is a Kennedy after all there.
00:33:05.780And I did have some questions as to whether or not we would get consistent pro-life policy from executive agencies such as HHS.
00:33:13.960Thus far, Allie, in the two plus months that we've seen of this second Trump administration, I've seen effectively virtually no reason to be particularly concerned.
00:33:21.660As a staunch pro-life for myself, I see a lot of reasons to be deeply encouraged.
00:33:25.200And frankly, I only hope that this momentum keeps up.
00:33:27.960One other notable pro-life development, by the way, this story did not get a whole lot of headlines, but there was actually a notable Supreme Court case last year out of the state of Idaho.
00:33:36.720What happened in Idaho was the state there passed a very strong pro-life measure, and you had some pro-abortion folks in Idaho that actually took this case all the way to the Supreme Court to basically challenge the Idaho law and say that it was preempted, as lawyers would say, by this federal emergency abortion statute that basically said that the Idaho law had to be subject to the federal medical abortion thing.
00:34:00.280Long story short, the Biden administration was basically trying to make abortions happen again in the state of Idaho.
00:34:07.040Not a whole lot of people covered it or even noticed it, but the Trump DOJ actually withdrew the federal government's stance from that particular case.
00:34:15.200They basically dropped the suit, so the Idaho pro-life law stands in place as well there.
00:34:19.260There's been a lot of kind of small developments like that.
00:34:21.460So as I said, from a pro-life perspective, this is a very important issue, obviously, for both me and you and obviously for the audience as well.
00:34:27.460Everything seems to be going pretty well for now.
00:35:02.560Adoption referrals decreased by nearly 22 percent.
00:35:05.960Just anecdotally, if you talk to women, I do a lot of work with pregnancy care centers, and a lot of women who come into those pregnancy centers, they first went to Planned Parenthood, or maybe they previously had an abortion at Planned Parenthood.
00:35:18.180And the reason that they're at the pregnancy center is because they were under the impression that they could go to the Planned Parenthood and get information about an actual choice.
00:35:29.720What if they wanted to put their child up for adoption?
00:35:33.560Planned Parenthood redirects those people right back out the door and says, if you don't have the $800 for an abortion, you really have no business being here.
00:35:41.880That's how the vast majority, if not all, Planned Parenthood function.
00:35:46.480And yet, over the past 10 years, again, according to Live Action, profit at this abortion corporation has gone from 58.2 million 10 years ago to $178.6 million a year.
00:36:00.660So that's an increase of 270% of the annual profit that that corporation is making, in addition to our hundreds of millions of dollars of tax money that they are also receiving.
00:36:15.120We are just paying for the killing of unborn children.
00:36:18.660Even if they say our dollars can't go toward that, we know that they are.
00:36:22.780Yeah, I guess if there's one thing that I would like to see a little bit more of, we've seen so much from Elon Musk and DOGE, his Department of Government Efficiency, when it comes to rooting out a lot of stuff that taxpayers should not be subsidizing, whether it's DEI for children in Myanmar or gender ideology in the Congo.
00:36:41.580I mean, I'm making up examples here, but that's basically what they discover when it comes to things like USAID.
00:36:46.220I would like to see a little bit more when it comes to the DOGE focus on saving taxpayers when it comes to the abortion issue there, because there are historical ways that Democrats in particular, when they control the federal budget, when they control appropriations there, they try to slip all sorts of backdoor mechanisms for the U.S. taxpayer to subsidize abortion there.
00:37:07.760And Planned Parenthood happens to be the most high-profile example.
00:37:10.340There's any number of smaller examples as well.
00:37:12.860So I would like to see a slightly more concerted effort when it comes to Elon Musk and DOGE.
00:37:18.660I don't really know how Elon Musk personally feels about this, but he certainly seems to be small government enough inclined whereby he should be, I think, incentivized and encouraged and, frankly, just interested in trying to save taxpayer dollars of having to subsidize these abortion companies, which, as you note, are already tragically highly profitable and highly lucrative for the most part in the first place there.
00:37:40.960But ultimately, Ali, I think the most important argument there is not necessarily saving taxpayers' dollars.
00:37:46.940The most important argument is that this is wrong.
00:37:49.180One of my big things going back to really the beginning of my days doing political commentary is that these procedural arguments are interesting, but it's always more interesting to cut to the moral heart of the issue, to actually make a straightforward moral argument as to the propriety or the impropriety of the underlying action, of the underlying conduct.
00:38:05.460And it's incumbent upon pro-lifers to never stop arguing, to never stop reminding, seeking to persuade, to gauge in a very slow, drudging, methodical, but nonetheless highly difficult or important, I should say, work of changing hearts and minds there.
00:38:21.160And what that means is just taking the pro-life argument head on and explaining to people whether or not they're already on board or they're not on board, that this is wrong, not just as a fiscal matter when it comes to the taxpayer dollars and the federal fisc, but it's also wrong just as a moral matter here because we should not be involved in killing innocent, unborn babies.
00:38:39.500Basically, period, full stop, end of story.
00:38:41.080Absolutely. And that's not really something that we've heard Elon Musk talk about that much, but he has talked about what he understands is the inherent evil in so-called gender-affirming care, giving someone the opposite hormones, especially when it comes to minors.
00:38:55.380And Planned Parenthood has actually become the industry leader in providing these hormones to these young people.
00:39:00.720Every detransitioner that I've talked to on this couch, they originally got their cross-sex hormones from Planned Parenthood.
00:39:07.640And you don't need much of a sign-off.
00:39:11.960I think you need one psychologist that is typically recommended by the gender clinic that originally convinced that child that they were born in the wrong body.
00:39:46.560I mean, it's also just one of straight-up just crony capitalism, right?
00:39:49.040I mean, that's a term that you probably haven't heard in a whole lot of time there.
00:39:52.360But I mean, why are there other large federal corporations?
00:39:55.480Why are there large companies that are getting taxpayer dollars in general there?
00:39:59.660I mean, there's more reasons than I could possibly count that Planned Parenthood should not get a single penny of federal taxpayer dollar.
00:40:08.480But overall, Ali, I do think it's important to underscore and emphasize what we were talking about a few minutes ago, which is I think over the course of the 2024 campaign, there were some pro-lifers, people that you and I would consider close allies, friends, many of whom were skeptical, were kind of pessimistic, depressed, blackbilled, you might say, about the prospects of a Trump-vance presidency when it comes to this issue, to the pro-life issue there.
00:40:31.980And I tried to mollify behind the scenes a lot of those friends of mine, basically saying, look, this is a political campaign.
00:40:38.440People say a lot of stuff in the context of a political campaign to get elected there.
00:40:42.180But the most important thing that you can do for a situation like this is you look back to what President Trump did when he was in office the first time around.
00:40:49.180And not only did he nominate the justices who helped overturn Roe v. Wade, that's the most important thing, but there were all sorts of executive orders as well that were strongly pro-life executive orders.
00:40:58.260And again, I'm just deeply hardened by what we've seen thus far.
00:41:01.120Now, in my heart of hearts, would I still like to see Congress legislate a national abortion ban tomorrow?
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00:42:40.780Speaking of the executive branch, J.D. Vance was caught in a pretty private conversation with the Secretary of Defense talking about war plans in Europe.
00:42:57.760Or talking about Europe and talking about their war plans.
00:43:01.440And accidentally, Jeffrey Goldberg was included, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic.
00:43:14.660It's actually kind of interesting to see this kind of transparency and how they talk about Europe and our enemies and their plans.
00:43:21.260And then others are saying, OK, this is so embarrassing.
00:43:24.580This is obviously a huge security issue.
00:43:27.120How can they have this level of recklessness and carelessness when it comes to American defense?
00:43:33.780So I'm just curious, what was your reaction when you first heard this?
00:43:38.900So as usual, Allie, the truth is somewhere in the middle, right?
00:43:41.980I mean, when you have kind of, you know, someone trying to just totally dismiss a story and then someone trying to blow it out of proportion.
00:43:46.900The truth is typically somewhere in the very murky gray area in the middle there.
00:43:50.420So there are at least two aspects, really three aspects to the story.
00:43:56.520One is the fact that they were conversing on signal.
00:43:58.980Two is the fact that Jeffrey Goldberg, of all people, of The Atlantic somehow managed to get in this chat.
00:44:04.200Third is the underlying substance of what was actually being discussed and how it played out here in this chat.
00:44:09.360So I guess I'll take all three of those in order.
00:44:11.760The fact that it's on signal in the first place, a lot of people are freaking out about this.
00:44:15.500That really does not particularly bother me.
00:44:17.500That is the least of my concerns right now.
00:44:19.440You know, in theory, should they have maybe some other government, Pentagon, CIA-approved messaging device?
00:44:27.200But, I mean, it's totally implausible and unrealistic in today's day and age and in our very kinetic, fast-charging foreign affairs circumstances.
00:44:34.480It's totally implausible to expect that all these very important people, people like Pete Hexeth, Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, could all congregate jointly in a skiff and then review class.
00:44:46.080And frankly, it was actually the Biden administration that took pains to actually approve the use of signal for these sorts of communications.
00:44:51.480So that's really not my concern, the fact that it was actually happening on signal.
00:44:55.620The fact that Jeffrey Goldberg, by contrast, found his way into this chat is a very big deal, and it is extraordinarily problematic there, among other reasons, because Jeffrey Goldberg is a very bad faith actor.
00:45:07.880I mean, this is someone who is a left-wing activist of a so-called journalist.
00:45:13.360He's actually blocked me on social media for over a decade there.
00:45:15.520He is not someone who has the best interest of the Trump administration at heart, I think, would be a dramatic understatement.
00:45:22.160So how in the world did he end up on this?
00:45:24.360Well, you know, the working theory is that his initials, J.G., were there and that they meant to put in the U.S. trade representative, Jamison Greer.
00:45:32.260I mean, that's just gross incompetence.
00:45:34.360I mean, someone clearly massively, massively dropped the ball.
00:45:38.420Unclear why any of these staffers, frankly, even had Jeffrey Goldberg in their signal contacts in the first place.
00:45:55.600I don't think it should be Mike Waltz, but maybe it's Mike Waltz's staffer.
00:45:58.820Whoever was actually responsible for Jeffrey Goldberg getting access to this there, that person, in my opinion, should be disciplined, fired.
00:46:06.500And let's really make sure that from an OPSEC perspective that this never, never, ever, ever happens again.
00:46:11.780I query, by the way, whether Jeffrey Goldberg actually acted ethically there.
00:46:21.240And then it's like basically Irish exit stage, right?
00:46:22.920I mean, get the heck out of the chat there.
00:46:24.260I mean, so he did not act properly as well here.
00:46:26.680You know, the final thing is the most important part, right, which is that the actual, the underlying substance.
00:46:32.000I mean, like, what are they actually discussing there?
00:46:33.440And you basically see an interesting discussion about what to do when it comes to the issue of the Houthis there.
00:46:38.760And, you know, it's not a big surprise that there are people within the Trump administration who have differing opinions when it comes to the Middle East, when it comes to foreign policy in general there.
00:46:47.760Look, I was not persuaded by Vice President Vance's argument that this is just simply Europe's problem there.
00:46:54.660The United States definitely has an interest.
00:46:57.380I mean, we can debate how strong that interest is.
00:46:59.140We definitely have an interest in securing free passageway of the Red Sea, one of the world's most important waterways, which these Muslim pirates, the Houthis, have basically held hostage for years and years now.
00:47:09.060So, you know, it was it was it was kind of confirmation that a lot of these guys say privately, whether it's the vice president, Hague, Seth, Waltz, a lot of them say privately what they say publicly.
00:47:20.420But we shouldn't be talking about this.
00:47:22.260I mean, not just me and you, but the world should not be talking about a very private, high level conversation from the people involved there.
00:47:29.500So the fact we've been having this conversation, I do find to be deeply problematic.
00:48:21.620So it's interesting how people are applauding him, I don't know, for his courage, for being at the right place at the right time, according to, you know, his journalistic goals.
00:49:15.320I mean, he did not he did not act ethically here.
00:49:17.620And again, he did not act ethically because this is a man who carries immense water for the Democratic Party.
00:49:22.500He carries immense water for liberal causes there.
00:49:24.440You know, the reason that Jeffrey Goldberg blocked me personally on social media 10 years ago is because I called him Barack Obama's court Jew because he was basically the Jewish journalist who was being tasked by Barack Obama with trying to sell the catastrophic Iran nuclear deal to a very skeptical public there.
00:49:39.320He is literally the guy who goes in there to carry water and do the dirty work for the Democratic Party.
00:49:44.220He has only the worst interests of the Trump administration at heart there.
00:49:47.500So I'm not surprised that he acted the way he did.
00:49:50.800And look, I mean, I'm a lawyer, Allie.
00:49:53.000I didn't go to journalism school, whatever there.
00:49:54.880I have to imagine, though, that whatever they're teaching in journalism school these days, to the extent that it's not just entirely overrun by left wing ideology, which it probably is.
00:50:02.280If there if there is such thing these days in the 21st century as journalistic ethics, I have to think that Jeffrey Goldberg wildly, wildly violated a final point I will make on this.
00:50:11.260There is a relevant statute from a legal perspective on the books called the Espionage Act, which which deals with how one handles classified information.
00:50:20.600We have seen the Espionage Act invoked in the recent past when it comes to Donald Trump and Mar-a-Lago and the FBI raid there and so forth.
00:50:27.740Now, there is actually not a journalistic exception for the Espionage Act there.
00:50:32.300So if the Trump administration really, really, really wanted to make an enemy of Jeffrey Goldberg, I'm not suggesting they do because it might not be a winning case based on current SCOTUS precedent or not there.
00:50:42.660But you could, in theory, prosecute him on Espionage Act grounds if you really, really want to send a strong case.
00:50:48.920I think it's a weak case because, you know, he didn't snoop around.
00:50:51.800He was literally invited to this chat there or literally fell into his lap.
00:50:54.340So it's maybe not a strong legal case, but such an option exists if they were interested in doing so.
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00:57:02.200They're really trying to basically bamboozle you into thinking that a Hamas sycophant, a total piece of garbage like a Mahmoud Khalil,
00:57:10.240that he has the same rights as you and me because we're all the same there.
00:57:15.100Well, actually, no, we're really not the same.
00:57:16.940I mean citizen versus non-citizen is an important distinction there.
00:57:19.240But that's the ultimate goal of the far left, isn't it, is to ultimately kind of George Sordo's Open Society Foundation, World Economic Forum there.
00:57:28.020This literally is the goal of the globalists, is to actually eradicate the nation state.
00:57:33.280And part of that is to eradicate any distinction between citizen and non-citizen.
00:57:37.240So I think that is kind of the intellectual starting place that some of these arguments are coming from there.
00:57:41.680But it's legally incoherent, and it's morally wrong, frankly, because the nation state happens to be a very good thing.
00:58:27.880Sure. So the book is called, Ali, Israel and Civilization, the Fate of the Jewish Nation, the Destiny of the West.
00:58:33.900I think one key point is that the word Israel in the title has a double meaning, right?
00:58:38.780It's referring, yes, to the capital S state of Israel, but also to the nation of Israel, the people of Israel, i.e. the Jewish peoples.
00:58:45.620Maybe we'll table that and then come back to it perhaps there.
00:58:47.700But the state of Israel is absolutely Western civilization's front line when it comes to the fight against really all three of the global forces that I identify as being a threat to Western civilization there.
00:58:59.960And those three forces that I identify in the book as being a hegemonic threat threatening to engulf all of us, Jews and Christians alike here in the West,
00:59:07.340are in no particular order wokeism, Islamism, and global neoliberalism.
00:59:11.660And it really is the Jewish people and the state of Israel that oftentimes are the canary in the coal mine on, frankly, all three of these issues, actually.
00:59:19.220So when it comes to wokeism, we've certainly seen since October 7th how much these woke DEI crazies on campuses hate the Jews there.
00:59:53.920That's why it was the most pro-Israel administration in American history the first time.
00:59:57.180And they basically picked up right where they left off in this second administration.
01:00:01.260It was this understanding, actually, that led to the dynamic Abraham Accords peace deals of 2020 where Israel made peace with the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco there.
01:00:10.280You know, Ali, I'll give this one very concrete example as to how Israel literally is the West and, frankly, America's man on the spot, so to speak, when it comes to the radical Islamic issue.
01:00:20.220And I hear from a lot of people when I speak on this topic on university campuses, a lot of them say, you know, what is the U.S. benefits from U.S.-Israel relations, right?
01:00:26.580This is a very common question that I get with some increasing frequency these days there.
01:00:32.040Well, let me explain to you in very concrete terms partially at least one part of what America benefits from this particular relationship.
01:00:38.220So last summer, less than a year after October 7th, there was kind of a few-month stretch there where Israel went on this kind of grand revenge killing spree.
01:00:46.200It kind of reminded me of Michael Corleone in the infamous baptism scene in The Godfather.
01:00:50.020They decided to basically systematically just start knocking off a lot of their enemies.
01:00:53.440And that culminated with the assassination of Yahya Sinwar in Gaza and Hassan Nasrallah, the head of Hezbollah in Beirut, Lebanon.
01:01:00.780But before they got Nasrallah, Israel and the IDF knocked off two other very high-ranking Hezbollah jihadists as well.
01:01:08.120These two men's names were Fuad Shakur and Ibrahim Akil.
01:01:12.080And who are Fuad Shakur and Ibrahim Akil?
01:01:13.880I'd be very impressed if anyone out there watching this knows who they are.
01:01:16.700So Fuad Shakur was the mastermind of the 1983 Beirut-Lebanon barracks bombings that slaughtered over 240 United States Marines.
01:01:25.560Ibrahim Akil was the Hezbollah jihadi who was the head of the bombing at the U.S. embassy in Beirut, Lebanon.
01:01:30.420That exact same year, that slaughtered between 60 and 70 Americans.
01:01:34.400Those two men, for over four decades now, have had United States State Department bounties on their head of $5 and $7 million, respectively.
01:01:44.280Literally nothing happened for four decades until the IDF just took them out last year.
01:01:49.160So, again, I hear from a lot of people, you know, what is the U.S. benefit from U.S.'s relations?
01:01:53.140Well, I mean, among other things, you know, you get a dead Fuad Shakur, a dead Ibrahim Akil, and, oh, by the way, a dead Hassan Nasrallah and a dead Yahya Sinwar to boot there.
01:02:01.320So, I mean, they literally are our man on the spot, essentially doing our dirty work for us.
01:02:06.140They really don't ask a whole lot in return other than just don't overly criticize us and provide some diplomatic cover at the United Nations.
01:02:17.900You know, there's this very troubling—I know you've seen it, too.
01:02:20.760We've talked about it just a little bit.
01:02:24.420But this idea among some Christians here who maybe just frankly don't like Jewish people, maybe they just don't like Israel,
01:02:31.000but this idea that actually Muslims and Christians have more in common, their beliefs about Jesus are more similar,
01:02:38.640and that we've been—I've seen this argument.
01:02:41.280It's crazy to me that we've been psyoped into believing that Islam is the real problem
01:02:49.200when really Islam has a lot of similarities to Christianity when it comes to morality and things like that.
01:02:55.020I mean, just on its face, just like a rote understanding of Christian theology should be able to tell someone that that is so far from the truth.
01:03:05.120Obviously, all three of these Abrahamic religions have different ideas about who Jesus was.
01:03:10.880But with Jews and Christians, we share half of our Bible.
01:03:37.640I mean, Christians are being beheaded in places like the Congo from these radical Muslims.
01:03:42.460And so, to me, it is unbelievable propaganda that has no grounding in reality that it's actually Islam and Christianity that are anyway on the same side.
01:03:54.140And I don't think this is a majority position, but I see Muslims here in America, whether it's Andrew Tate or people like that, saying,
01:04:06.680And you argue in your book, not when it comes to all of our theology, but when it comes to our defense of Western civilization and the underlying values,
01:04:15.580that it's actually Jews and Christians that have this very important alliance that we need to realize, right?