Ep 1168 ｜ Should Austin Metcalf’s Dad Forgive His Murderer？
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Austin Metcalf was a 17-year-old who was murdered last week at a high school track meet. The debate that has been sparked in the aftermath of this tragedy has us asking a lot of very important questions about forgiveness, about right versus wrong, about self-defense, and yes, about race relations in the United States. We will get into all of that on today s episode of Relatable.
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Austin Metcalf was a 17-year-old who was murdered last week at a high school track meet.
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The debate that has been sparked in the aftermath of this tragedy has us asking a lot of very
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important questions about forgiveness, about right versus wrong, about self-defense, and
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yes, about race relations in the United States.
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We will get into all of that on today's episode of Relatable.
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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If you are in the Greenville, Spartanburg area of South Carolina or really anywhere close
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to that, you should come to my free event on Thursday night, Clemson University.
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I am being hosted by the Clemson chapter of Turning Point USA.
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So if you are a related gal or a related bro, I would love to see you there.
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It's always nice to have the in-person support of Friendly Faces because you never know how
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I don't anticipate this being any kind of tense or problematic situation.
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There's going to be a ton of security just in case.
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Unfortunately, Turning Point sometimes is like a lightning rod for controversy.
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They just, the progressives really just don't like how effective Turning Point is and that
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we are disseminating ideas to the youths of America or Turning Point is anyway.
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And I just get to be one of the featured speakers by them.
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It is, I've got the information and a graphic on my Instagram.
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I forget exactly where it is, but it is Thursday night, this Thursday, Clemson University, doors
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I will make sure to post it on my Instagram so you know the exact location.
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We've got a lot to get into today, more controversial territory.
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I just want to thank you guys for commenting on yesterday's video.
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I don't like talking about controversy, especially within a body of believers.
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Believe it or not, I feel responsible to do that.
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And certainly when someone is misrepresenting, perhaps maliciously, something that was said
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on this show, I feel responsible to defend it and to clarify and to support the claims
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Or if I am proven wrong, to apologize and to clarify.
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And so that's what we did in regards to the prosperity gospel in the so-called Black
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And so many of you, sisters in Christ, brothers in Christ, who happen to have more melanin than
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A lot of you, of all different melanin counts and ethnicities that make up the body of Christ
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And I am right there with you, ready to share the arrows with you too.
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We are wading into not necessarily controversial theological areas today, although maybe part of
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it will be, but it's really more cultural and maybe political, but it certainly is, again,
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racial as we talk about this horrifying story of the murder of a teenager in Frisco, Texas
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Now, most of you have probably heard at least the basics of what happened, that this young
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man, 17 years old, was murdered at a track meet.
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Just to give you some context, as someone who grew up in Dallas and has frequented Frisco
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many times, this is a very nice area of the metroplex.
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And this track meet was among public schools, but the public schools that were competing against
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Obviously, you've got a diversity of socioeconomic backgrounds at any public institution, but we
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are not talking about South Dallas schools that you might expect some level of violence.
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Before we get into the backlash and the debate that has surrounded this, let's just talk about
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the human beings involved and the sadness that we should always feel when an image bearer
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He was a high school football player from Frisco Memorial High School.
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I talked about it several times on my Instagram during a track meet.
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The suspect, 17-year-old Carmelo Anthony from Frisco Centennial High School, allegedly stabbed
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Metcalf in the chest following a brief altercation.
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That's the language that is used by the press just as a CYA.
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But we know, according to the witness testimonies of dozens of people who saw this happen, even
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the admission of Carmelo Anthony, that this kid actually did commit this crime.
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According to witnesses, the confrontation began when rain drove students to shelter under
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There are seats reserved for the students of that particular school in that specific tent.
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Anthony went under a tent of Memorial High School, even though he is not a student at Memorial
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He is a student at Centennial High School, another high school in the area.
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So when Anthony, this is again according to witness testimony, was sitting in the wrong
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tent, the tent that was not designated for his school, Austin Metcalf apparently asked
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And Carmelo reportedly replied, touch me and see what happens.
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Now, other reports actually say that it started with him saying, make me.
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And Austin Metcalf said, well, I want you to move.
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And then when he said, make me, we don't know exactly what Austin said in response to
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But then when Carmelo Anthony said, touch me and see what happens, Austin apparently grabbed
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He touched Carmelo to kind of move him, pull him out of the seat with his backpack still
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And as he was doing that, Anthony reportedly pulled a knife from his bag and stabbed Metcalf
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And blood was spilling everywhere, according to Metcalf's twin brother, Hunter.
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Hunter held Austin Metcalf, according to his own testimony, in his arms, tried as hard as
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he could to place his hands, to place pressure on his heart, on his chest, where the blood
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And he says that he saw he said this on Fox News, on Will Cain's show.
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And he also said tragically that that's when his own soul left his eyes.
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Anthony was quickly apprehended by Frisco police.
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And upon being referred to as a suspect, Anthony said this, quote, I'm not alleged I did it.
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OK, so apparently pretty proud of the choice that he made and asked if what he did would
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I told him not to, according to the arrest affidavit.
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Anthony has been charged with first degree murder and is being held on one million dollars
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Metcalf, according to friends and parents who knew him, according to his community, was a
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standout athlete with a 4.0 GPA, named MVP of his football team, was receiving college
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His family described him as a leader with a bright future.
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And there is so much discussion about how the family has responded and about if race had
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anything to do with this, because Carmelo Anthony was black and Austin Metcalf was white.
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And I will just say up front that we don't know, just as I said, scandalously after George
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Floyd died, that we have no idea what the motivation of Derek Chauvin was when he leaned on
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his back. It was assumed that it was white supremacy.
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It was assumed that it was racial discrimination and prejudice.
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It was simply assumed because of the colors of the people involved.
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And it caused, of course, this whole firestorm and weeks and weeks of deadly riots because
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In this case, I do not know if Carmelo Anthony was, you know, singled this kid out.
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It doesn't sound like he singled him out, but that he reacted the way that he did because
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But I do have thoughts about some of the commentary surrounding all of this.
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I want you to watch Austin's brother, Hunter, describe what happened.
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There was this kid, before I knew his name now, this kid was sitting under our tent at
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He started getting aggressive and talking, reckless, and my brother stepped in and said
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This kid, I tried to whip around as fast as I could, but I didn't see the stab.
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But then I looked at my brother and I'm not going to talk about the rest.
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I just, I cannot imagine being that young man, going through that kind of trauma, holding
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your brother, your twin brother, your best friend that you shared a womb with.
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You were with him when he took his first breath and you held him as he took his final breath.
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Man, I just pray that Jesus would be close to this man, comfort him, help him use this
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testimony to strengthen him and to share the gospel with others, because this could either
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I mean, he could allow God to be near to him and to use him in very powerful ways one day,
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or this could be the traumatic event that he just is never really able to recover from.
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And it can also be both, like within our pain, within our sadness, within our trauma, God
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Pray that he would have people speaking truth into his life, comforting them there when he
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I think young men especially feel this burden to compartmentalize, to kind of push away the
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hardship that they've endured, to be strong, to not cry.
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I don't think that we need to be constantly pouring out our emotions, but emotions are also
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And our capacity to feel pain is not a bad thing.
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It can actually be very healthy to recognize what we've endured.
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And so just pray for him and pray for his parents.
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His dad is reacting to this, Austin Metcalfe's dad.
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I personally, I'm not sure why a family would want to give interviews right after a tragedy
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like this happened, but maybe it's just to clear the record.
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Maybe they feel like they want to make sure that their son, that their brother is being
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Maybe they just feel like they're speaking truth.
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It might be the last thing that I want to do after enduring a tragedy like this.
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But here is Austin's dad saying, look, this is not about race.
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I don't want someone stepping up on a soapbox trying to politicize this.
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I don't appreciate some of the remarks I've seen online that people say there was this
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fight and there was they don't know they weren't there.
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Yeah, and he is talking about and as we'll get into, he's talking about like both sides
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Like he's not just talking about, oh, conservatives asking, does this have to do with anti-white
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There are a lot of people, as we will get into, who are not white, who are saying, oh, well,
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you know, these white kids must have been bullying him because he was black.
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And this was the straw that broke the camel's back and he was just defending himself.
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And so I think this dad is probably addressing all kinds of commentary.
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If I were to give a recommendation to this dad, I would say don't look online.
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Don't be a part of this dialogue and discussion that's just going to make the pain worse.
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And I understand why the dad is saying that some people were mad in thinking that he was
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I think that he doesn't want this very real human tragedy to be a part of a political discussion.
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It might not be feasible because so much is understandably political and cultural today.
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But I understand, like, why he wants to say that, of course.
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But I would just encourage him to log off, to not look at any of the discussion.
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He also said this, which caused a lot of disagreement, I would say, especially among Christians, about
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whether or not this is the right approach to forgiveness.
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His mom and his brother, they have a different take on this.
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But I'm not at that point yet to forgive that kid the way he did to my brother.
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Because, you know, 17 years, my best friend just there and didn't blink of an eye.
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Here's my take on this, because a lot of people were mad.
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There was a story a couple of years, a few years ago now, might have been five years ago,
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so I can't even remember the names of the people, but it was a white female police officer
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who accidentally shot and killed a young black man.
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She was definitely in the wrong, but it wasn't some purposeful, malicious incident.
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And I remember, the name is on the tip of my tongue, but I remember the brother in the
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courtroom, the brother of the victim, hugged the police officer and held her and said,
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And a lot of people on the left were upset with him for showing that kind of grace and
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Here's my take on this, is that both of these reactions right now by the mom and brother
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I understand where both of them are coming from.
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I do not think it is correct to say the Christian is called to unconditionally and immediately
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Now, that might be scandalous to say, I don't think that that is the biblical example or the
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explanation that we are given for Christian forgiveness.
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Ephesians 4.32, one of my favorite verses, be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving
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So as God in Christ forgave you, obviously God in Christ forgave us a lot.
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As Ephesians 2 says, there's nothing we can do to clean ourselves off, to pick ourselves
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up, to make ourselves worthy or acceptable before God.
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It was Jesus's perfect sacrifice that wiped our slate clean, that saved us by grace through
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This was a gift, not our own doing, not a result of work so that no one can boast.
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That's the rest of Ephesians 2, verses 8 through 10.
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And so how God in Christ forgave us, it was a whole lot for people who completely betrayed
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him, who were following the prince of the power of the air, who were sons and daughters of
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disobedience, for God to reach down and to save those who mocked him, who disdained him, who
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wanted nothing to do with him simply because of his love for us, that is a lot of forgiveness.
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But we do know that God's forgiveness through Christ comes by grace through faith, and that
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grace-powered repentance before God is a prerequisite for God's forgiveness.
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That doesn't mean that we are making ourselves acceptable before him on our own through our
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It is powered by the Holy Spirit, but that repentance is a necessary step in forgiveness and ultimately
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And so I think that when we read in Matthew 18, Jesus say that you are to forgive, how many
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He answers, Peter, I don't say seven times, but I say to you 77 times.
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That's Matthew 18, 21, when Peter says, how often will my brother sin against me and I forgive
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Jesus is basically saying, he's not literally saying 77 times, he's like, as many times as
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But I think if we read in context, we are not just talking about blanket unconditional forgiveness
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We are talking about, within these interpersonal relationships, especially with our fellow Christians,
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people who are seeking our forgiveness, people who are repenting.
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If we read the parable directly after Jesus says this, I think we get some clarity.
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If you start in verse 23, this is kind of long.
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Therefore, the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with
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When he began to settle, one was brought to him who owed him 10,000 talents.
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And since he could not pay, his master ordered him to be sold with his wife and children and
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So the servant fell on his knees, imploring him, have patience with me and I will pay you
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And out of pity for him, the master of that servant released him and forgave him the debt.
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But when the same servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him 100
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denarii and seizing him, he began to choke him saying, pay what you owe.
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So his fellow servant fell down and pleaded with him, have patience with me and I will
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He refused and went and put him in prison until he should pay the debt.
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When his fellow servants saw what had taken place, they were greatly distressed and they
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went and reported to their master all that had taken place.
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Then his master summoned him and said to him, you wicked servant, I forgave you all that debt
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because you pleaded with me and should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant as
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And in anger, his master delivered him to the jailers until he should pay all his debt.
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So also my heavenly father will do to every one of you if you do not forgive your brother
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So Jesus is saying, God had this great mercy on you, forgave you all of your wrongs, your
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You now, therefore, have the responsibility to show the same mercy and forgiveness to someone
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You can't be cruel to others who are seeking your forgiveness after God has forgiven you.
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But we see in this story that the fellow servant that needed that forgiveness and mercy was seeking
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He was seeking that forgiveness and the other servant should have given it to him.
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And same at the very beginning, when we see the original servant who ended up being a wicked
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servant, when he got his debt cleared, he was asking, he was repentant.
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And so I think it is okay in some cases to withhold forgiveness from someone who is not repentant.
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Now, let me give a caveat to that because we also read in Ephesians 4 31, let all bitterness and wrath
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and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all malice.
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So even if someone has not repented, even if Carmelo Anthony is proud of what he has done,
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even if he is not repentant, I still think that the father is right to let go of bitterness and to
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say the justice system is going to work how it's going to work and God avenges and he's going to
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take care of me and he's going to take care of the situation and I am letting this go.
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I will not allow it to cause me anxiety and to burden me.
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And I wonder, and you can let me know what you think about this because I'm still working
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I wonder if it is possible to say, I have not forgiven that person yet, but I have let it
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I am not allowing it to make me bitter or resentful because I trust in God's goodness.
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I trust that he is going to take care of wickedness once and for all.
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And for you to pray for that person as your enemy and to bless them instead of curse them
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and to want salvation for them, want redemption for them, want what is best for them.
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That doesn't mean that you want them to escape justice because earthly justice is instituted
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by God for our good and for the good of the most vulnerable.
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I wonder if it's possible to hold all of those things at the same time.
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Obviously, for the Christian, having bitterness and resentment and hatred and not trusting God
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But even there, I do think that there is a Holy Spirit-powered process that has to happen
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The reaction to this has just been insane, and it's been very, very sad.
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Carmelo's dad says that Carmelo was a quote-unquote good kid, emphasizing his positive attributes
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by noting that he works two jobs, is an A student, and it's pretty typical for parents
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But he insisted to the New York Post that Carmelo was not the aggressor and not the one
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who started the altercation that led to the stabbing, suggesting his son was provoked into
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the violent act, and that's just where we've gone too far.
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There is no witness that says that, yeah, this was justified because it looked like
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It does not matter if Austin Metcalfe said something intimidating to him, was rude to him,
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cussed at him, and I'm not even saying he did any of these things, but hypothetically,
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if he had, if he had been aggressive, if he had pulled him up by his backpack, if he had
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pushed him over, if he had punched him, none of that is a justification for stabbing someone
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You have to feel, you have to reasonably believe that your life is in danger, that someone is
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about to take fatal force against you to justify your own fatal force in self-defense.
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And the fact that we have not only his dad, but as you will see, hundreds, if not thousands
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of people online saying, well, that's what you get for starting a fight.
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That's what you get for putting your hands on someone.
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You even have people making up complete total rumors that this guy said the N-word to him.
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There is absolutely no witness testimony verifying that.
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It's almost become a meme at this point when something like this happens, when there is
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a black aggressor against a white person, you always see this rumor start to circulate.
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Oh, he must have said the worst thing possible that you can say to a black person without
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That is a horrible accusation to lodge against a person.
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Even if he had said it, it wouldn't justify this.
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That it doesn't matter what someone says to you, what someone calls you.
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That doesn't justify violence, especially fatal violence.
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It doesn't matter the amount of disrespect you feel.
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It doesn't matter how rude they were to you that that doesn't justify killing someone
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I just want to make sure that we all know that because we can't live as a society if
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there is one subset of Americans being taught by their parents that, okay, words are never
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And you should avoid all forms of physical aggression as long as you possibly can in every circumstance
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And physical aggression should only be reserved for certain situations where you have to defend
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yourself or defend a vulnerable person that is being abused or being assaulted or being
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In every other circumstance, you should use your words.
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Now, you can say, okay, well, Austin Metcalfe should have done that, too.
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Okay, so one subset of Americans is hearing that message from their parents.
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And if another subset of Americans is hearing, yeah, if you're disrespected, you get yours.
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If someone says something to you or calls you by a name, it's because of your skin color or
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it's because of your background or it's because of XYZ and you got to defend yourself.
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This happened in Ohio a couple years ago at LeBron James' school that he established there.
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There was a white kid that was shooting, like, a water gun with his friends at kids who happened
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to be black in, like, a parking lot at their school while those kids that were getting shot
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with a water gun, it was, like, very obviously a water gun.
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And even when Ethan's friends were saying, stop, stop, like, he's unconscious.
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You probably didn't see a whole lot of media outrage about that because apparently they
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A disproportionate response is a sign of a lack of impulse control, very often a sign of
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bad parenting, but definitely like a deep character issue.
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And if that is true on any systemic level among any kind of person with any kind of skin
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color, that is a huge threat to the safety of society, okay?
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So there's no excuse for this going on, despite what some people are saying.
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Let me pause and tell you about Share the Arrows.
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I just wanted to remind you that Share the Arrows is October 11th in Dallas, Texas, outside
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We are so pumped about all the speakers that we have.
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We've got a health panel, Shauna Holman, Taylor Dukes.
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We are being led in worship by Francesca Batticelli.
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All right, so we've got this person, Tariq Nasheed.
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Now, I almost don't even think he's a person, a real human, because he says stuff like this
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But the reason why it's, I think, important to include him is because he riles real people
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And so he posted two pictures, very strategic pictures.
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You've got Carmelo Anthony in his suit and tie.
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And then, I mean, there are pictures where, I mean, Carmelo Anthony is holding guns.
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And I'm not saying that that is what makes someone a murderer or makes someone guilty,
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but I'm just saying strategic choice of picture here.
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And then he's got a picture of the Metcalf brothers, and they are clearly in hunting gear,
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And I guess that's supposed to make us think that they're bad people.
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I actually saw one commenter say, I saw those brothers in camo knew they were racist and
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knew Carmelo Anthony was defending himself, which is really sad.
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But Tariq Nasheed said, a suspected white supremacist named Austin Metcalf, pictured with
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his twin, allegedly demanded honor student Carmelo Anthony give up his seat like it was the
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Carmelo defended himself from the alleged threat.
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And every single level, Daniel Penny actually did stop a threat.
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The person that he was trying to hold back was threatening people on a subway.
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And so he put him in a headlock until he calmed down.
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And we all hope for people like Daniel Penny when we are in public places and a dude who
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All of us are really hoping that there's a brave, strong man around who is willing to do
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Austin Metcalf was not a threat to anybody, and he was in the wrong seat.
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Carmelo Anthony was, according to witness testimony, actually in the wrong seat.
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And then you've got people, Mike Baggs, whenever white supremacists immediately flood our mentions
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before the full story is even out, you know something's up.
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It turns out Austin Metcalf was the aggressor and the black kid, Carmelo Anthony, was defending
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You've got people comparing this to Kyle Rittenhouse.
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Again, whatever you think about where Kyle Rittenhouse should have been in Waukesha on that night,
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he also was defending himself literally against fatal force.
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You've got Bishop Talbert Swan, another one of these ridiculous grifters who said,
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y'all said 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse was justified in killing two people with an AR-15
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17-year-old Carmelo Anthony was defending himself when he killed Austin Metcalf with a
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When you are defending yourself against someone who is armed, who is trying to kill you, that
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When you kill someone because they touched your backpack and told you to move, that's
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And then I posted a video about how awful this is and that it speaks to so many societal issues
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that we have parenting problems, violence problems, lack of self-control problems, disrespect culture
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And I posted that video on Instagram and Facebook and I got a ton of comments from people saying
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There's a video of twins bullying, bullying brothers jumping him.
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You forgot to say they put their hands on him first.
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There's not video of the brothers bullying him.
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First learned the truth, talking on something you don't know about.
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So you saying this is bad, but what you think you're doing is good, but the child had a
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I'm actually not trying to make fun of this person.
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And the thrust of what they're saying is you're blaming a child for doing something and you
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Another person, y'all doing a whole lot of assuming over headlines.
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Witnesses said that Austin was the one putting his hands on Carmelo before it escalated.
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You're promoting the death penalty and assuming you know what that child's home is like.
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But yeah, I do think that he should be tried as an adult and that the death penalty should
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We read biblically, Genesis 9, that the death penalty is the proportionate and right punishment
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And by the way, I think it can be argued that this was premeditated, possibly.
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So apparently the argument there is that Austin Metcalfe was murdered because someone who might
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have looked like him 200 years ago owned slaves.
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Yeah, that's the biblical definition of justice.
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We all know that God punishes the current generation for the sins of not just their ancestors,
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but someone who might have looked like them a very long time ago.
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It is very frightening to me that these people, many of these people who probably have kids
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themselves believe that you can stab someone, murder someone, murder someone, because they
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touched your backpack, because they pushed you.
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We can't live in society together if that is how we feel.
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And I saw someone, because I posted some of the screenshots of these.
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I posted them on X and I saw someone say, why are you only posting the comments of black
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I just screenshotted the comments on my Facebook post.
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Maybe there are people commenting on my Facebook post who don't fit that demographic.
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The fact that they all happen to be black women, I don't know.
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It's crazy to me, though, that we would be defending a murderer.
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I don't know if these people are defending him because of his skin color, because of shared
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You cannot think this way, whether you are white or black as a race idolater and still
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We see that modeled for us throughout scripture.
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So if you are unable to see right from wrong, if you are unable to see truth from facts because
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of the skin colors of the perpetrators, of the victims, of the people involved, then you
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have no business, no business being a part of a society that values freedom and justice.
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You are actually an impediment to justice for all kinds of people.
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It's not perfect because it's made up of fallible people, but because we believe in this unique
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concept that justice must be blind, that it must not be a respecter of persons, that we
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should not be prosecuting people or sentencing people based on their background, based on
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Unfortunately, though, that is what social justice ideology teaches, because social justice and
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Social justice says you should weigh someone's skin color.
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You should weigh their socioeconomic background.
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You should weigh whether or not their parents or grandparents or great-grandparents may have
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And if you're making all of those calculations, you're never going to get to an actual just
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You should read Quest for Cosmic Justice by Thomas Sowell.
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So there is a GoFundMe or was a GoFundMe for Carmelo Anthony, support Carmelo Anthony's
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But thankfully, GoFundMe reportedly took down the fundraiser.
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Someone named Malcolm X is King to Me on X posted a screenshot, an old screenshot of the
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The whites are in shambles because we took care of our own.
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See, this is the kind of like April Thompson was saying yesterday.
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This kind of ethnic narcissism blinds you to reality and morality.
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It always will, no matter what your skin color is.
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He just came out and said it in response to all of this.
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And this has 173,000 likes, or at least when we got the screenshot it did.
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Like he's always going to say what he's thinking.
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He's always going to say it in the clearest terms, and there's just a lot to appreciate about that.
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He said, if I told you that a young man stabbed another young man to death for telling him that he was in the wrong seat, and then I told you that one young man in this altercation was white and the other black.
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And then I asked you to guess the race of the assailant.
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Every single person would know the answer immediately.
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Young black males are violent to a wildly, outrageously disproportionate degree.
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And it's time that we speak honestly about it, or nothing will ever change.
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And maybe you could argue that this is not relevant to what happened with Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf, that this could have happened between any two people.
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Maybe this Carmelo Anthony kid doesn't have a history of violence at all.
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But when the conversation is almost always that the white person is in the wrong, that they had what was coming to them, that they must have been racist, or if the roles are reversed, that it must have been motivated by white supremacy, you're going to have people out there trying to set the record straight factually.
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We have a very small portion of the population.
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I think black men make up about probably 6% of the population.
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If black Americans are 13% of the population, then black men would probably be about half of that.
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So you've got 6% of the population that account for 40% to 50% of all homicides in this country.
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And it's actually less than that because obviously not every black American man is going to be a murderer.
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So you're looking at probably like 3% or less of the population accounting for a huge percentage of the homicides in this country.
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And actually, you wouldn't know it by the media coverage that we have.
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But according to FBI data, homicide data from 2019, it is a black person is 2.3 times more likely to kill a white person than the reverse.
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And yet, if you look at the media coverage, you will only see the races of the people involved when there is a white perpetrator and a black victim.
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The Washington Free Beacon noted this, they said, according to a review by the Washington Free Beacon done in 2022, analyzing articles published between 2019 and 2021, a white offenders race was mentioned in roughly one out of every four articles compared with one in 17 articles about a black offender.
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And so the reason why there was so much backlash to what Matt Walsh said, of course, there are some people out there who think that you can't say anything negative at all about a black person without it being white supremacist or racist or bigoted or wrong.
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But also, the reason why there was such pushback is because people don't believe that that's true.
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They don't believe the statistics bear that out when it actually is statistically true, even according to hate crime data, which Matt Walsh notes, which I'm not even sure is reliable because I don't think the FBI really has any motivation to properly report on this.
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But it is far more likely for a black person to commit a crime against a white person of that nature than the other way around, even though white people make up about 60 percent of the population and black Americans make up about 13 percent of the population.
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So when he says, yeah, there's a disproportionate violence problem among those who happen to be black, that is actually statistically and factually true.
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Now, they are most likely black Americans are most likely to kill black Americans, white Americans most likely to kill white Americans.
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Same with Hispanic Americans, only demographic that that is not true for Asian Americans are most likely to be killed not by another Asian, but actually by a black person.
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Again, that is remarkable considering that they are such a small portion of the population.
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Maybe you could argue that's not the time and the place that's not relevant here again, but it is actually true.
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And if we care about black lives, like if we care about our communities who are filled with all different kinds of people, if we care about our children, we should care about that fact.
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I'm certainly not the first person to say that.
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But beyond just, well, it's probably white Republicans, like it's probably just this abstract issue of white supremacy.
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I promise you nothing will ever, ever, ever get done or ever get better if that is the direction that we always go.
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Of course, he got a lot of applause, but also a lot of pushback.
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Jason says, unfortunately, black Americans have been brainwashed into the demonic black culture religion established by Hollywood and the music industry.
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I don't know what you think about that, if you think that is, if you think that's true.
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And obviously, as someone who grew up in, quote unquote, black culture himself, it would seem like he knows a little bit about it.
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No matter what, no matter what races were involved, this is absolutely a tragedy.
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Some people are like, don't just pray for Austin Metcalfe's family.
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Please, like pray for their comfort, but pray that they would see truth.
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Pray somehow for God to be glorified and pray somehow for revival and awakening in all of our hearts that we would all be pursuing goodness and do a better job of raising our kids.
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