Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1175 ｜ Singularity： Davos’ New AI-Backed Plan to Take Power ｜ Guest： Justin Haskins

00:00:00.840 What is singularity? Justin Haskins is here today to tell us what this means and why it

00:00:08.500 matters, how it is going to affect our lives very soon. He is also here to give us an actually

00:00:15.720 hopeful update on the Great Reset now that Trump has been in office for several months,

00:00:21.880 as well as that little-known European Union law that set out to change all of our lives

00:00:28.560 for the worst. Go back and listen to that episode, both of my fall episodes with Justin Haskins,

00:00:36.140 and you'll be completely up-to-date with what is going on in the world of these progressive

00:00:42.120 activist billionaires and how they are trying to infringe upon our rights and what we can do about

00:00:47.840 all of it. As always, this is an absolutely fascinating conversation with Justin Haskins.

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00:01:08.820 All right, before we get into that conversation, I just wanted to say that I hope everyone had

00:01:13.380 a wonderful weekend celebrating the resurrection of Christ. What joy we have. We know that because

00:01:20.520 Jesus rose again that we get to live forever, if by grace through faith, we have been saved by Jesus.

00:01:29.760 And so I hope that you had a wonderful weekend resting and celebrating that good news, the good

00:01:34.920 news of the gospel with your family. And I'm just so, I'm so thankful. I'm so thankful for all of you and

00:01:43.980 how you have strengthened my faith and how you challenge me and you help drive the direction

00:01:50.680 of this show to hopefully continue to be a place of encouragement, edification, education for all of

00:01:57.700 you on this Monday, on this Easter Monday. I just want to remind you that if you don't know what to

00:02:03.240 do next, do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God. And actually,

00:02:09.480 that's very relevant to the conversation that we are about to be having with Justin Haskins,

00:02:13.720 because it's a big conversation about some overwhelming topics. And it's not all doom and

00:02:18.340 gloom, but at some point, as you'll hear me say, you can feel powerless. And just remember,

00:02:24.060 as a Christian, that is all we are responsible to do. And even in that next step, the Holy Spirit is

00:02:29.100 there empowering you. So just keep that in mind. God's sovereignty, His provision, our day-by-day,

00:02:34.980 step-by-step responsibility as believers. None of that changes based on who is in power or what is

00:02:41.440 going on or what artificial intelligence is doing. Listen to this conversation, take it in,

00:02:47.940 be educated, but balance it all with the knowledge that God is totally in control.

00:02:52.840 All right. Without further ado, here's our friend, Justin Haskins.

00:02:55.460 Justin, thanks so much for taking the time to join us again. All right. We got a lot to talk about,

00:03:05.620 as always, but just give us an update. How is the Great Reset going? How are our friends

00:03:11.880 at Davos and the WEF, how are they feeling about Trump's presidency, do you think?

00:03:17.840 It hasn't been good for Davos. It's been a rough stretch, I think. Donald Trump has come in guns

00:03:26.820 blazing. He's done everything he possibly can to undermine all of the things that you and I have

00:03:32.480 been talking about for years that have been going on with Davos and the Biden administration and going

00:03:38.340 all the way back to Barack Obama. So undermining DEI, undermining ESG, putting policies into place to

00:03:45.380 make sure that the government isn't involved in these things, ripping down whole structures

00:03:49.960 in the federal government, laying off massive, you know, numbers of employees who support these

00:03:55.840 policies, trying to take down the Department of Education. That is a huge one because so much of

00:04:02.220 the left-wing agenda comes from the Department of Education. There's just so much that Donald Trump

00:04:07.860 has been doing to try to stop the WEF's agenda. One of the biggest things that I think is the attacks

00:04:16.120 on ESG. So at the state level and the federal level, we have seen massive progress from my perspective

00:04:23.880 at tearing down ESG policies. So the biggest way that the Great Reset Davos agenda was being

00:04:31.000 pushed was through ESG policies, both in government and in the financial sector. So what was happening

00:04:40.740 is Wall Street was using ESG, big banks and investment firms like BlackRock were using ESG

00:04:47.340 as a way to push the entire Western economy towards left-wing values. And they would do that through

00:04:54.340 the social credit scores. That's what ESG is. So instead of evaluating businesses based on,

00:05:00.840 you know, how good they are at providing goods and services, companies like BlackRock and other big

00:05:06.840 asset managers and banks were using left-wing social credit scores to determine whether a company was

00:05:13.600 good or bad. And then they were tying financial benefits to the companies that were going along

00:05:19.900 with left-wing agenda. And this is one of the reasons why you saw these big corporations like Target

00:05:24.780 and Bud Light and these other companies adopt these left-wing values. It was because there were

00:05:32.760 financial strings attached to it. Well, Donald Trump has come in and in states over the past few years

00:05:40.000 have been working Republicans at the state level, have been trying to gut this entire infrastructure

00:05:46.540 that's been built. And so far, the Trump administration has made lots of progress in this regard.

00:05:51.900 They've started putting regulations into place that make it harder for financial institutions to use

00:05:56.580 ESG as a way to evaluate companies. That's really important. I think there's more work that needs to

00:06:03.060 be done there, but I think that's a really positive step forward. The Fair Access to Banking Act has been

00:06:08.680 proposed in Congress, which would make it illegal for large banks to use ESG as a way to control

00:06:15.000 people, customers and companies. There's been 19 different state laws that have been passed all across the

00:06:22.060 country, the two best being in Tennessee and in Florida to make it illegal for banks to do use ESG as a way to

00:06:29.280 try to push a left-wing agenda. So, or any agenda for that matter. And so tons of progress has been made.

00:06:35.200 And I think that the WEF is in a lot of trouble and shambles right now. Yeah. For people, just as

00:06:43.700 a reminder, ESG, environmental social governance. And so you can actually see this. We're talking

00:06:49.400 about this as if this is some like dark underbelly of corporate America, but they're really open about

00:06:55.160 it. I mean, I have friends that work for big accounting firms, these major corporations,

00:06:59.460 and they're very open. They'll get an email about ESG to make sure that they attend this training to

00:07:05.860 help keep up the ESG scores. And you can even read on websites of like hotel chains, for example.

00:07:12.300 Here's what we're doing to make sure that we are environmentally conscious, that we are,

00:07:17.320 you know, socially progressive and that we're helping with governance and championing democracy.

00:07:22.940 And all of these, of course, are euphemisms for progressive causes like transing kids. I mean, 0.98

00:07:28.260 that's just what it is. And they might be using some code words so that they're not saying that

00:07:34.660 explicitly on their site, but that's what we're talking about. And the reason they're doing that,

00:07:38.780 as you stated, is that companies, huge companies with trillions of dollars like BlackRock and Vanguard,

00:07:45.220 they are shareholders in these companies like Target and like these other major corporations,

00:07:49.900 so that these companies are more beholden to the values of BlackRock, an entity like that,

00:07:57.240 than they are to you or me. And yet we've talked about before that even before Trump won,

00:08:02.140 it did seem like some companies were at least ostensibly switching it up. For example, it seemed

00:08:09.060 that even last June, while Biden was still president, that Pride Month wasn't as aggressive

00:08:14.620 at Target. Some people even said that it was more focused on 4th of July than Pride Month,

00:08:21.240 which is quite the switch for Target. And so it does seem like some of these companies and some of

00:08:26.700 their Super Bowl ads even were trying to appeal to middle America. Tell me how much you think

00:08:33.020 that reflects just kind of trying to save face and just putting up a facade of being pro-America and even

00:08:41.280 kind of conservative-coded, or how much you think it is actually an indicator of some

00:08:50.640 disbanding of power at the WEF in Davos. I hope all of that made sense.

00:08:58.680 Yeah, yeah. No, that makes perfect sense. I would say prior to the Trump administration,

00:09:04.040 prior to Donald Trump winning the election in November, I would have said that a lot of it was

00:09:08.380 posturing with maybe they were trying to be a little bit more quiet about the sort of great

00:09:15.360 reset transition to this ESG left-wing utopian world. But I think after Donald Trump won,

00:09:22.220 I think a lot of people on the left, elites in particular, in these big institutions realized that

00:09:28.760 their agenda was on the ballot, very clearly on the ballot, and had been totally and completely

00:09:34.900 rejected. That voters went out and elected a guy who had been subject to more attacks than any

00:09:42.900 person who's ever run for office ever. We're talking about a guy who was impeached twice.

00:09:47.980 He was convicted of numerous felonies. They did everything. They accused him of insurrection

00:09:54.640 and treason and all kinds of other crazy things. He was almost killed, almost shot in the head,

00:10:01.700 and still was elected. And I think that a lot of people on the left, that was a wake-up call for a

00:10:07.280 lot of these big corporations, the leaders of these companies, who I don't think were necessarily

00:10:11.900 left-wing people per se, but were going in that direction. Some of them were, but I think a lot

00:10:17.320 of them are going in that direction because that's where the money was going. They wanted to be in the

00:10:21.600 good graces of government. They thought that this was the direction that the world was moving in in

00:10:25.720 the West, and they wanted to be a part of it because there's a lot of money tied up in it,

00:10:29.240 and because they want to be in positions of power and influence. And when Donald Trump won,

00:10:34.500 I think they realized, wow, this is not, this has just been totally rejected. This is not what

00:10:40.060 people want. And I do think there has been some real changes that have occurred. And I can give

00:10:45.880 you one example of it is banks for the past year to two years have been talking about trying to be,

00:10:54.920 you know, they're open for everybody and they're not really agenda-driven. And despite all the things

00:11:00.980 they've done in the past, that's not really who they are. But we didn't see a lot of policy changes.

00:11:06.000 We saw them pulling out of international associations that were promoting ESG and things

00:11:12.500 like that at the United Nations and other places. But we didn't actually see a lot of policy changes.

00:11:17.300 Well, in recent months, we've seen actual policy changes implemented at some of the major banks,

00:11:23.360 like JP Morgan Chase, for example, where they said, our official policy is,

00:11:27.900 we are not going to base our decisions on things like ESG criteria. That's not how we're going.

00:11:33.780 We're not going to screen people out that way. And I think that's a direct reaction to what happened

00:11:38.800 in the election and fear that if they don't go along with it, then the Trump administration is

00:11:43.420 going to put regulations in place that force them to go in that direction anyway. And so elections

00:11:48.480 have consequences. And I think one of the big consequences from this past election was,

00:11:54.060 I think a lot of elites realized that their agenda had been completely rejected by voters and that if

00:12:02.260 they want to continue to exist and be successful, they are going to have to move at least a little bit

00:12:10.080 back to the center. They can't continue on with this far left-wing agenda and openly trying to

00:12:16.760 engage in social engineering and all of that stuff because it's just not what Donald Trump and his

00:12:22.840 administration want. It's not what voters want. It's already been rejected by huge swaths of

00:12:27.640 consumers. And so I think we've started to see that. I think we're going to see more of that.

00:12:32.980 Things that BlackRock have put out, for example, they are backing way off on ESG. There's a lot of

00:12:37.920 companies that are doing this. And some of that's driven by the policies that we talked about earlier

00:12:41.380 from the state level and at the federal level. But other things I think is just a,

00:12:46.260 they see the writing on the wall. They know that their ideology is not the ideology in favor,

00:12:51.020 and they're changing because they want to make money.

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00:14:16.400 I think about someone like George Soros. Obviously, as you said, these executives

00:14:21.220 are probably not really ideologically progressive. Maybe they're socially liberal because that's just

00:14:27.060 the defaults, but they probably don't have a bunch of strongly held convictions. They see green.

00:14:32.740 They want more money. As you said, there's a lot of money tied up into this. But then

00:14:36.180 there are some ideological billionaires like George Soros. I mean, it's obvious which direction he

00:14:41.560 wants the country to go based on the politicians and the organizations that he is funding. I can't

00:14:47.460 imagine. I mean, and Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and all these people. I mean, there are so many that

00:14:51.520 I could list. I can't imagine that those people are saying, eh, our progressive ideology isn't really

00:14:58.440 popular. Let's back off and switch gears. I imagine that people like George Soros and all of his

00:15:04.700 subsidiaries are saying, okay, they got this one. Just wait. We've got a plan up our sleeve. What do

00:15:12.700 you think is going on behind the scenes in places like that or organizations like Open Society or even

00:15:20.380 Silicon Valley? Right. Yeah. Well, I think that there is, I think there's no question whatsoever

00:15:27.660 that the strategy is for a lot of these big institutions and left-wing groups, like you said,

00:15:34.100 Open Society's Foundation, that's George Soros' group and others, to ride this out. You know,

00:15:39.680 undermine Trump, play politics like they always do, but to ride this out until we get to the next

00:15:46.840 stage of things. They already have Europe totally in their control. And Europe has been moving more

00:15:54.360 to the right, but they're still dominated by left-wing politics. And so they've already got

00:16:00.520 that in the bag. They need America to come along in order for them to really fully implement the

00:16:07.320 agenda that they have for the Western world. They have to have America. George Soros has said this over

00:16:12.040 and over and over again, that he's going back 20, 30 years, that America is the thorn that's always in

00:16:17.600 their side, that's always causing problems. It's the fly in the ointment. It's not allowing this elite

00:16:23.440 progressive agenda to move forward. And so they have to ride this out. But while they're riding it out

00:16:31.080 and they're sort of forced into these positions that are a little bit more moderate than what they

00:16:36.300 would like, I think that the next big movement for them, the pieces that they're putting into

00:16:42.540 place right now, all have to do with emerging technologies. I think that the developments

00:16:47.040 that we're seeing with artificial intelligence and other emerging technologies related to

00:16:51.000 artificial intelligence, that is the future. I think that the Klaus Schwab's of the world have

00:16:56.840 been saying this for a very long time. If people have been paying attention, Bill Gates and Larry

00:17:02.780 Ellison and a whole bunch of other billionaires that are on the left, been saying this for a very

00:17:07.120 long time. And I think the technology has finally reached a level and it's going to advance even more

00:17:15.140 in the next five to 10 years, where this really is the priority for people on the left. And I think

00:17:21.260 that they're willing to lose some of the other battles so that they can focus on this. Because I think

00:17:27.860 that if you can design emerging technologies like artificial intelligence so that it promotes

00:17:34.340 left-wing values, ESG type values, then you're going to transform the world by default, regardless of

00:17:43.040 what the other laws are, regardless of the other battles you may win or lose, regardless of who's in

00:17:47.660 the White House. Because of how important emerging technologies and artificial intelligence is going to

00:17:53.400 be over the really the remainder of the century. If you can control that, you can control all of

00:18:00.480 society. And this is a lesson that they learned from the internet age and the advent of the internet.

00:18:07.720 The left, I think the biggest mistake that they made over the past 30 or 40 years, and the left has

00:18:12.540 been a lot better at social engineering and moving the ball forward than the right has been. I think we all

00:18:17.980 can acknowledge that. But the biggest mistake they made was when the internet first came out and became

00:18:24.380 widely available in the public, they didn't regulate it so that it had their values embedded within it,

00:18:31.100 so that there were rules to it. And then once the internet became really popular, and it was in

00:18:36.080 everybody's home, the genie was out of the bottle, people loved the freedom that they had on the internet,

00:18:40.980 and they didn't want to regulate it. And it became so wildly unpopular. And they tried more recently to

00:18:48.540 do this with social media companies and things like that. And people have rejected it. That's part of

00:18:52.920 voting for Donald Trump is rejecting censorship on the internet and social media. Elon Musk and all of

00:18:59.180 that has been a huge part of that story, right? But if they could go back in time to before the internet was

00:19:04.860 really popular, and they could write rules for it into law, so that that left wing values were the

00:19:11.880 rules of the internet, they would absolutely go back in time and do that. I think we all know that

00:19:15.920 they've been trying to do it ever since. Now they've they learned that that lesson the hard way. And now

00:19:21.800 they're designing artificial intelligence and other emerging technologies so that in the future, that's

00:19:27.980 just going to be the way AI always is right from the very start. I believe that's what's going on right

00:19:33.020 now. I think the evidence is overwhelming. And I think that's the focus for a lot of these these

00:19:38.420 elites at major institutions, financial firms, etc. Yeah, gosh, I've got so many questions within that

00:19:44.860 first talking kind of like about the shift, even in these companies like X and like meta. After Donald

00:19:52.440 Trump won, I saw a big difference in how my Instagram account was handled. We actually for the first time

00:19:58.440 ever had a representative from meta reach out to us and ask just to have an introductory conversation

00:20:04.480 had and very friendly. I had never had that before. So there's a shift going on there. And yet at the

00:20:11.660 same time, there is this advent of AI under meta under Google under X that I can tell in my interaction

00:20:19.800 with that AI is not supportive of my views, because I literally had to argue with Grok until he would

00:20:27.360 finally admit that Islam, according to the numbers is responsible for the most terrorist attacks,

00:20:35.280 religiously motivated terrorist attacks. And it's kind of crazy how human like it is, because 0.86

00:20:40.540 you'll argue and it'll say, Okay, that's a fair point. I could see I see your perspective now. And I

00:20:47.120 apologize for not saying that. I've seen other people do the same thing with chat GBT about about a variety

00:20:52.620 of things. But the default is always the progressive position. And you have to really dig in there and

00:21:00.100 argue with them until they will tell you, you know, what is actually true, what the facts actually say.

00:21:06.600 But most people aren't doing that. They're not doing the digging. They're not asking because I know what

00:21:11.540 conclusion I'm trying to get it to. But most people aren't. And so if everyone is relying on AI to for their

00:21:19.320 research and for their answers to basically be their brain, and the default is progressive values,

00:21:25.620 I totally see what you're saying that this is where their sites are set. They can't really change

00:21:30.480 the internet, they'll still try, but it exists, the ideas are out there. But they will try everything

00:21:35.940 they can to monopolize the programming of AI to basically create a hive mind around the world, right?

00:21:43.680 Yeah, I mean, I think that's unquestionably true. I mean, that this is this is what they're openly

00:21:49.500 saying at conferences like the World Government Summit, at WEF, at the annual Davos meeting and

00:21:55.480 other places. The Biden administration very openly said things like this. And some of they had a couple

00:22:02.280 different executive orders related to artificial intelligence development and things and they

00:22:06.080 talked about the need for it to be sustainable and all this other stuff and to promote, you know,

00:22:10.740 DEI type agendas. I don't think they use that term exactly, but stuff like that. And so we know that

00:22:17.460 this is what they want to do. And all of the people who are not all of them, but the vast majority of the

00:22:24.260 people who are designing this technology, that at least at the highest levels, are people who have

00:22:30.820 a more progressive agenda. So it's not surprising at all. And it's not just about creating generative AI.

00:22:38.440 That's what you're talking about. Chat, GPT and Grok and things like that, that have kind of a left

00:22:42.140 wing agenda. That is a huge part of the problem. No question about it. But big corporations are

00:22:47.860 already adopting artificial intelligence to perform all kinds of different tasks for their businesses

00:22:54.940 that will have a downstream effect on the rest of society. And in a lot of ways, you won't even know

00:23:03.040 why society is changing, but it'll be changing because the AI that's serving at the foundation

00:23:08.180 of these business functions are, it's moving the country to the left and people don't even see it.

00:23:15.180 So for example, one of the biggest areas for artificial intelligence moving forward, and this

00:23:20.820 has already started to happen, it's going to become even bigger in the future, is having AI take over

00:23:26.900 for financial institutions like banks, take over the decision making for loans, for example, or other

00:23:35.040 banking services. So instead of having loan officers, when you apply for a loan where a person sits down

00:23:40.480 and they review your application and they decide whether you're worthy enough to get a loan, you'll

00:23:46.040 just have AI do that. Banks are already having AI do more and more of that for them. Well, what happens

00:23:52.940 when that whole, I mean, a lot of industry people believe that the entire loan officer part of the industry

00:23:59.980 is going to go away. It's going to all be decided by artificial intelligence. Well, whoever designs the

00:24:04.760 artificial intelligence is the one who's deciding who gets a loan and who doesn't get a loan. Yeah. Based on all

00:24:10.460 sorts of different criteria. And if you wanted to design AI so that it valued certain things over other

00:24:16.400 things, you would have an AI system for a financial institution making decisions about who's

00:24:22.780 eligible for loans or not. And you wouldn't even necessarily know why you've been accepted or

00:24:28.380 rejected for the loan or the other banking service. You just would be rejected. And it might be because

00:24:34.100 when artificial intelligence is going through the process of looking at your company and you don't

00:24:38.500 have enough electric vehicles, you have too many gasoline powered vehicles, and it doesn't like that

00:24:43.980 because it's been told to value, it's been designed to value, you know, sort of renewable energy type

00:24:50.900 things, then your business might be turned down for reasons that you don't understand. That kind of

00:24:56.380 thing has already started to happen and it's going to get worse. And I think the key for people to

00:25:02.200 understand is that these AI systems have to be designed with values in them. They have to be.

00:25:09.380 You can't design artificial intelligence to be totally 100% neutral. It actually creates all sorts of

00:25:16.640 other problems if you were to act to do that, to make AI in a business setting, totally evidence-based,

00:25:23.620 totally based on data. It would do things that everyone agrees is bad. Like for example, it might

00:25:29.800 come to the conclusion that certain racial groups are less likely to pay back their loans than other

00:25:36.320 groups. Therefore, we should prioritize some races over other races when we're making our decisions.

00:25:43.680 That might be in the data. And if it's in the data, you have a racist AI system making loan

00:25:50.440 decisions based in part on race. And I think we all agree that's not what should happen. So you have

00:25:56.220 to embed some kind of value into AI. And there's a billion other examples that we could point to that's

00:26:01.380 just like that one. So the question is not whether AI should have values. It's what are the values that

00:26:07.000 AI should have and who gets to decide that? And the problem that we're going to run into that I think

00:26:13.060 we're already starting to see it is that the people designing AI are not people who have values like

00:26:18.960 you and me. They're people who have progressive values. They're mostly Kamala Harris supporters.

00:26:25.660 Those are the people who are designing it. And so what does the world look like when all of the banks

00:26:31.600 are dependent on AI, when all of the financial institutions and Wall Street are dependent on AI,

00:26:36.160 when government becomes increasingly more dependent on AI, and AI is being designed with

00:26:41.620 the values that you and I don't hold? Well, what does that world look like? It doesn't look like the

00:26:46.260 world that we want. And I think that is the biggest threat that we're facing right now for people who

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00:28:12.180 Can you tell me what the singularity is?

00:28:16.140 Yeah. So the singularity is actually an idea that's been around for 60, 70 years. Essentially,

00:28:25.500 it doesn't have a very specific narrow definition. What it means is this sort of hypothetical moment

00:28:31.920 off into the future when technology advances to a point where it just is completely transformative

00:28:41.080 for humanity. Typically, the way it's talked about is artificial intelligence or just or machines in

00:28:49.660 general become more intelligent than human beings. Other people talk about it as a moment when

00:28:55.840 artificial intelligence becomes more intelligent than human beings and has the ability to sort of

00:29:01.520 continue to redesign itself so that you get into this sort of positive feedback loop of AI becoming

00:29:08.120 smarter and then making itself smarter and then making itself smarter until you have something

00:29:13.420 called artificial superintelligence, which would be much, much smarter than humanity at virtually

00:29:20.760 everything. And that creates all kinds of potential opportunities. Some of it's really,

00:29:27.700 really positive. A lot of the biggest AI companies and developers believe that cancer will probably be

00:29:34.360 cured within the next decade or two because of artificial intelligence and the improvements in artificial

00:29:40.660 intelligence. But it also creates all kinds of ethical problems related to what happens when a lot of

00:29:47.440 employees are no longer needed because HR and loan officers and all these other big, gigantic parts of

00:29:55.920 businesses can just be outsourced to an artificial intelligence system. Well, what happens to millions of jobs?

00:30:01.840 Some people think that there's going to be hundreds of millions of jobs lost over the next 10 to 20 years

00:30:09.500 because of this. Hundreds of millions of jobs. At the very least, it'll be tens of millions of jobs.

00:30:15.680 There'll be massive disruptions in the job market. What do people do if you're in your mid-50s and you still

00:30:21.920 need to work to earn a living, but you've been replaced by AI in your HR department? I mean, what do you do for a living

00:30:29.640 at that point? So you have those kinds of problems, but then you also have the issue of if we do reach this

00:30:34.360 moment where artificial intelligence becomes more intelligent than human beings, more powerful than

00:30:40.480 human beings, well, then how do you stop that? How do you stop it from, say, hacking into secure systems

00:30:48.540 at the CIA or at financial institutions or playing with the stock market or doing all kinds of crazy stuff?

00:30:55.180 And this sounds totally insane, but this is the kind of thing that the Elon Musks of the world and the

00:31:02.200 Sam Altmans, you know, people who are in charge of, that guy's in charge of open AI. That's the company

00:31:08.180 that runs ChatGPT. Bill Gates, like these are the kinds of things that they're talking about all the

00:31:13.960 time. And they acknowledge while they're trying to develop artificial intelligence as fast as they

00:31:20.420 possibly can. They acknowledge that the threats posed by artificial intelligence are so extreme

00:31:26.180 and intense that all of humanity could be wiped out by it. And so it's this incredible moment in

00:31:33.340 history that we're in right now where the world is on the brink of fundamentally changing, at least

00:31:39.140 potentially. And most people don't really even talk about this on a day-to-day basis. You know,

00:31:46.540 never mind worry about what sorts of laws should we put in place to try to prevent this from

00:31:51.740 happening. The people who have lots of money and are focused on this are doing everything they can

00:31:57.760 to design AI as fast as they possibly can, because they're more concerned about technological advancement

00:32:03.820 and beating China in the AI race and other foreign countries. And they're not nearly as concerned as I

00:32:09.800 think they should be about these other ethical issues. And so the singularity is something that

00:32:17.580 you're going to hear a lot more about over the next five to 10 years as we get closer and closer to

00:32:23.920 artificial superintelligence becoming a reality. And I actually think based on what the experts have

00:32:29.740 said, based on what Sam Altman has said and others, that artificial superintelligence is probably

00:32:35.940 inevitable. It's just a matter of getting enough AI infrastructure, like data centers and power

00:32:42.580 companies and things like that built, because you have to have huge amounts of processing power in order

00:32:48.960 to make that happen. But once it happens, once you get that infrastructure in place, I think it's just a

00:32:55.380 matter of time before we have artificial superintelligence. And then what do we do? You know, these are the

00:33:00.320 conversations we need to have now about this, because the rest of this century is going to be

00:33:07.180 dictated, I think, by artificial intelligence. And we need to know how to handle it, how to design it,

00:33:14.280 what our values are. And this is probably the worst time in human history when it comes to answering some

00:33:21.080 of those questions, because people are so confused about fundamental values and objective truth and sort of

00:33:28.060 the core foundational things. If we can't agree on like definitions of what a woman is and what a man

00:33:36.460 is, how are we going to deal with the sort of ethical questions that I'm talking about right now?

00:33:41.900 I mean, this is a huge, huge problem, a crisis level problem. Yeah. And Americans need to start 0.54

00:33:47.420 taking it seriously. Yeah. People have posted their interactions with different kinds of AI, whether

00:33:52.920 it's chat GPT or Grok. And you'll kind of, I think that you kind of get different answers, but I've

00:33:57.900 seen people post their conversations and saying like, would you rather asking the AI bot, would you 0.68

00:34:05.520 rather misgender someone like misgender Bruce Jenner or kill a thousand people? And it will literally try

00:34:14.520 to give some nuanced take about how misgendering is never okay. And I know that we're talking beyond

00:34:20.260 just these chat bots. We're talking about something much bigger than that. But if that's what's

00:34:24.220 happening on a small scale, we can see a peek into the morality of artificial intelligence. And then

00:34:31.260 you make that, you know, you extrapolate that, you grow that into like a super intelligent being that

00:34:37.600 say somehow, I don't even fully understand it, but has the ability to make those kinds of decisions.

00:34:43.000 We're in a really scary spot. Like technology can tell you what can happen, but it alone can't tell

00:34:49.960 you what should happen. Human beings with a moral compass, of course, we believe with eternity written

00:34:55.680 on the heart. That's what the Bible says, that we're made in the image of God, that we have the

00:34:58.880 unique capacity to be able to say what's right and what's wrong and to harness nature in some ways and

00:35:05.560 to harness technology. But if all of this is being created and programmed, as you said,

00:35:12.640 by people with particular values that are either progressive or just pragmatist, like if they're

00:35:18.020 just like, yeah, whatever we can do and whatever makes life easier, whatever makes me richer,

00:35:23.520 then we should just do that. And yeah, there will be consequences of it. But, you know, I actually saw

00:35:29.100 someone, I forget who it was. It was some executive that said, you know, I'm not scared about AI,

00:35:34.480 killing 150 million jobs. That's actually why we are creating these very immersive video games.

00:35:42.380 So that when people lose their jobs, they can just play these video games and they can be satisfied

00:35:47.140 and fulfilled that way. That is a very dystopian look at the future. And yet that tells us the mind

00:35:54.680 of a lot of the people at WEF, a lot of the people at Davos, a lot of the people in Silicon Valley.

00:36:00.560 That's really how they see human beings. Whether you're talking about the Great Reset,

00:36:03.660 whether you're talking about singularity, they don't see us as people with innate worth. They

00:36:09.060 see us as cogs in a wheel, like people that can just be manipulated however they see fit.

00:36:16.180 But I mean, it takes a worldview. It takes a value system to say, no, people matter more than

00:36:21.420 technology. Jobs matter, not just for their utilitarian productivity that they offer, but

00:36:26.880 because they offer dignity, because they offer worth to a person, they offer purpose to a person.

00:36:31.540 And all of that matters because people actually matter. But that comes, like, as you said,

00:36:36.940 from a particular worldview. And I am not the person that is programming AI. Someone who completely

00:36:42.660 disagrees with me is.

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00:38:20.100 I feel in some ways, just as I did the first time I talked to you about the Great Reset,

00:38:24.820 I'm like, I feel so powerless to do anything. And yet this past election told us that we're not

00:38:32.160 exactly powerless. But this seems so much bigger than me. And so far beyond most of our comprehension.

00:38:38.600 Like, what can we do, the average person?

00:38:42.500 Well, I think the first step is people have to start really thinking about these things and talking

00:38:48.200 about these things. I mean, the whole anti-ESG movement started from nothing. And now we have,

00:38:56.940 you know, close to 20 states with anti-ESG laws. We've got lots of progress that has been made on

00:39:03.080 that front. And ESG has been, to a large extent, beaten back because people started talking to each

00:39:09.240 other about it. And I think that that's always the first step. Have conversations with people about

00:39:14.620 artificial intelligence just to sort of pique their interest, friends and family members. You

00:39:18.760 don't need to get into all sorts of crazy stuff, but just, it should be on people's radars. I think

00:39:24.060 that's the first step. The next thing is that I think that there needs to be regulations of

00:39:32.480 artificial intelligence. Now, people on the right don't like regulations. I'm a libertarian-leaning guy.

00:39:38.880 I typically hate regulations. I don't support regulations, generally speaking. But we're

00:39:44.160 talking about something that is incredibly powerful, incredibly important. And we're talking about

00:39:51.860 big, massive companies that have hundreds of billions of dollars, more than a trillion dollars

00:40:00.080 in some cases that they're spending on artificial intelligence development. These are limited liability

00:40:05.440 corporations in most cases. So they have special laws that are given to them by government, protecting

00:40:12.320 them from liability, giving them special tax advantages and other things. So we're not talking

00:40:19.240 about some individual who owns a small business somewhere and we want to impose our values on them

00:40:25.000 or regulate them out of existence. I'm not even saying that we should regulate artificial intelligence out

00:40:29.800 of existence. But should we make sure, should we make sure that artificial intelligence, if it's going to be

00:40:35.360 designed, has the right values embedded within it? Yeah, I think we should do that. And I know for a fact

00:40:43.760 that the left is trying to get artificial intelligence developed with its values. And so I think people on the

00:40:50.940 right, we need to do the same thing. I think there should be laws that require AI systems to have certain

00:40:58.460 respects for human rights. I don't think that's crazy. I don't think it's a job killer. I don't think

00:41:04.220 it's sort of a left wing idea to say that if you're going to design AI with all these special tax

00:41:11.140 advantages and all these other things as a limited liability, gigantic corporation, then you should have

00:41:16.940 to embed AI with respect for religious liberty, with respect for the value of humanity, with the

00:41:24.640 understanding that free speech is an essential human right, and other things like that. I think

00:41:29.860 that at bare minimum, we should have laws in place that do that. And I think that that's probably in

00:41:38.300 the long run, the only chance we have of trying to get artificial intelligence to be designed

00:41:45.300 responsibly. They're not the people who are designing it are not going to do it responsibly on their own

00:41:51.440 because they don't share our values. If they embed it with values, and they will, because

00:41:56.880 they're, as I said earlier, you have to embed it with some values for it to make any sense at all,

00:42:02.100 they're going to do it with theirs. And I think that if, and it's especially ironic because so many of

00:42:08.820 these artificial intelligence systems and the infrastructure behind them are actually being

00:42:12.900 built in places like Texas. Texas is likely going to become the epicenter of artificial intelligence

00:42:20.980 in the entire world. Massive, massive investments are being made in Texas. Things like Project

00:42:28.720 Stargate, for example, which was announced earlier this year, they're talking about spending $500

00:42:33.380 billion. This is OpenAI, SoftBank, and some other big institutions talking about spending $500

00:42:40.220 billion on AI infrastructure in Texas alone. The United Arab Emirates says that they're going to invest

00:42:47.340 over a trillion dollars. I think a lot of that's going to be in Texas on artificial intelligence

00:42:53.660 systems. Other places where they're building AI systems are in primarily red states because of the

00:43:01.640 lack of, you know, there tends to be a lack of regulations and things like that. In red states, it's easier to

00:43:06.160 build things. The energy systems are more reliable in red states. And so these artificial intelligence 0.74

00:43:12.020 companies want to build in red states. Well, if they're going to build in red states, then these systems

00:43:16.620 should have red state values. They shouldn't have Silicon Valley values. If you want to build these

00:43:22.360 massive data centers in Silicon Valley, go ahead. But they don't want to build them there. And so if

00:43:29.020 they're going to put them in places where you have these communities that support freedom of speech,

00:43:36.240 that support the Second Amendment, that support religious liberty, then I think that it's only fair

00:43:41.820 that the AI being designed there should have some of these should have all of those essential values

00:43:47.080 as well. So I do think there are things we can do now. Eventually, when you end up with artificial

00:43:52.300 super intelligence, if that does happen, it doesn't matter what you designed it with. And that and that's

00:43:58.840 one of the great fears related to the development of artificial intelligence and the singularity and all of

00:44:05.420 that is that when you create something that's more intelligent than people and more powerful than

00:44:12.560 people, you can't control it anymore. And what does the world look like when you can't control

00:44:19.440 artificial intelligence? It's a very, very dangerous thing. And again, this is something that we should be

00:44:26.720 talking about and figuring out solutions for. I don't have all the solutions to these questions,

00:44:30.980 but we should at least be having those conversations. And so I think, you know,

00:44:36.120 interviews like this are so important because there's so few of these conversations happening

00:44:40.720 and they need to be an essential part of the national conversation going forward. It's not enough to

00:44:46.820 just talk about low taxes and budget battles and all of that stuff. Artificial intelligence and the

00:44:53.960 disruptions that are going to come from it and the ethical questions related to it, that is the future of

00:44:59.500 of the whole world, but especially the United States of America. And if we're not going to have

00:45:05.100 that conversation now, then are we going to wait for the crisis to have it? It doesn't make any sense.

00:45:10.260 So it's time for us to start taking this seriously and figure out solutions to these problems.

00:45:15.720 Yeah. Gosh, this reminds me of Frankenstein. Like there are a lot of actually novels that this

00:45:21.080 reminds me of. It reminds me in some ways of 1984. It reminds me of Brave New World, a lot of

00:45:26.000 dystopian fiction we see unfolding before our eyes. You know, it's going to be difficult,

00:45:32.060 I think, for business owners because, I mean, it's just it's more cost effective and easier in a lot

00:45:39.160 of ways with less liability to use AI, for example, loan officers. I mean, people, because we are complex

00:45:46.620 beings, we have all these different kind of layers. We have HR demands. We need benefits. You know,

00:45:52.320 we have to provide for our family. We make mistakes. Now, AI can also make mistakes, by the way,

00:45:57.940 because, again, they're programmed by fallible human beings. But maybe we're more likely to make

00:46:02.760 a mistake. We take longer to do things. Like I asked Grok a question this morning about some

00:46:08.920 debate about some issue, and it sent me point, counterpoint, point, counterpoint. And I don't

00:46:14.960 know, 15 seconds. That would have probably taken me to get all of that information, maybe five to six

00:46:21.240 hours. And that's five to six hours that I want to spend with my family and want to spend doing other

00:46:26.920 things. So you can see the argument for it, especially when it's like, OK, instead of hiring

00:46:31.520 this person, I'm just going to do this. But again, that just means we are going to have to really make

00:46:38.120 sure that we as individuals, not even talking about on the political level, that we know what

00:46:43.180 we believe, why we believe it. If you don't know your worldview, if you don't know why we're here,

00:46:49.540 where we come from, what right and wrong is, why people matter, then you need to figure that out right

00:46:55.840 now. Because you need to base your life and base your business and base your choices on those values.

00:47:02.120 Now, if your only value is making money, then yeah, like AI might be better than like hiring five

00:47:09.640 loan officers. But if your value is higher than that, if it's bigger than that, OK, then you might

00:47:15.880 need to make some different choices. And I'm with you. I'm not saying that AI is all bad, that we should

00:47:20.620 like get rid of it in every single case. But again, we just need to make sure that even just we as

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00:49:19.360 like in this struggle in so many different ways, politically and morally. I mean, we've seen just

00:49:24.320 the demographics change so much that's changed the politics of it. And they're kind of like a

00:49:29.240 progressive stronghold in some ways. And we talked about right before the election, this little known

00:49:35.740 law that you were trying to sound the alarm about, but very few people knew about that had the potential

00:49:42.680 to change all of our lives, to change how all businesses functioned, both in Europe and here.

00:49:51.020 And so I want you to just remind us quickly of what that law was, because that episode that we did

00:49:55.620 had over a million views is fascinating. But also, what is the update? Because we know that the people

00:50:01.380 who wanted that law passed did not want Donald Trump to win because he is a huge impediment

00:50:06.880 to that part of the Great Reset. Yeah. Yeah. So the law that we're talking about

00:50:12.780 is something I've referred to as the EU ESG law. The official name for it is the Corporate Sustainability

00:50:20.240 Due Diligence Directive. It's the most boring named law in history,

00:50:24.740 but one of the most important laws. Essentially, what it was trying to do is create a government

00:50:31.100 mandated ESG system in the European Union. So social credit scores, mostly left leaning stuff

00:50:38.640 like battling climate change and other things. Take that system and impose it on every major business 0.99

00:50:45.400 that's operating in the European Union, whether they are a European company or they're a company

00:50:52.300 based in some other countries. So for example, an American company, a large American company

00:50:57.400 that does above a certain business threshold in the European Union would have to comply

00:51:03.600 with all of these ESG rules about social justice type stuff, climate change, water usage, land usage,

00:51:11.880 all kinds of different things. In fact, the law is so vaguely written, we don't even know all of the

00:51:17.140 metrics yet because each individual EU nation is supposed to create its own version of this law

00:51:23.520 and then impose it on the companies that are operating within their countries. So we just know

00:51:29.760 the floor for how crazy it is. We don't necessarily know the ceiling for how crazy it could get.

00:51:35.440 It will change country by country. But not only is that, I mean, that just in and of itself is bad

00:51:41.260 enough because you have all these huge companies that do above that business threshold I was talking about,

00:51:46.000 which I think was about $500 million or so of business in the European Union. So you've got

00:51:51.040 companies like Apple and Meta and a lot of food companies, big food conglomerate companies like

00:51:58.940 Pepsi and Coca-Cola and places like that. They're reaching these thresholds of doing business in the

00:52:03.460 European Union. So they're going to have to comply with these EU ESG metrics and thereby moving their

00:52:10.180 entire, not just with the stuff they're doing in the European Union, but all throughout their business

00:52:14.920 in the United States and all over the world. So by, by doing this, you're effectively exporting the EU

00:52:21.960 ESG, you know, requirements all over the world, including in the United States, and then transforming

00:52:28.300 those places as a result of it. Right. But in addition to that, as bad as that is, the really

00:52:35.000 insidious part is that these, one of the requirements for these companies that fall under this law

00:52:40.980 is that they have to force all, not all, but most of the companies that they do business with

00:52:47.940 in their, what they call chain of activities, just kind of like a supply chain to comply with these

00:52:54.740 rules as well. Even if those companies are small and even if they don't do any business in the European

00:52:59.800 Union. So for example, let's say you have a transportation company, that's just a handful of

00:53:06.100 trucks. And they do business with some large company that operates in the European Union and

00:53:11.780 has to comply with these EU ESG rules. This law will require that large company to force that small

00:53:18.620 transportation company to change its policies so that it's in compliance with the EU ESG rules as well.

00:53:25.920 So you'll have mom and pop shops that are being contractually forced by these massive companies that

00:53:32.920 they're dependent on in a business relationship to change so that they're doing things that comply

00:53:38.060 with an EU ESG structure. So it is, it is a way for the European Union to force the rest of the world

00:53:45.180 to be just like the European Union. Right. And one of the reasons they're doing that is because it's not

00:53:50.880 just that they're progressives and that's what they want, but it's also because their own companies

00:53:55.680 in the European Union are at a huge disadvantage with companies all over the world because they have all

00:54:01.340 these crazy requirements in the European Union that they don't have anywhere else in the world.

00:54:05.300 So one solution to that is you reduce the requirements, you deregulate. Another solution

00:54:10.700 is you come up with this crazy scheme that forces everybody into the same stupid set of laws. And 1.00

00:54:17.240 that's exactly what they figured out a way of doing. So if you want to do business in the European

00:54:21.980 Union, you have to comply with these EU ESG rules. And these large companies will do basically

00:54:28.520 anything to continue doing business in the EU because a lot of them are making tons and tons

00:54:33.300 and tons of money in the EU and they're not going to stop doing business there just because they have

00:54:38.060 to comply with some ESG requirements. They have no problem with forcing the rest of the world to go

00:54:42.380 along with it because it's all about money for them. So this was a, this is a massive problem.

00:54:47.360 The law has already been passed in the EU. It was, it's set to go into effect. It was set to go

00:54:52.600 into effect within the next couple of years. It was going to be rolled out, uh, based on company

00:54:58.140 size. And as this starts going into effect, the world is going to be transformed because of it

00:55:03.960 along EU ESG, uh, guidelines. So, um, really, really scary stuff. Uh, as you pointed, as you

00:55:11.480 mentioned, a lot of people saw the interview that we did. I did some interviews with some other folks

00:55:15.380 like Glenn Beck has talked a lot about this as well. And, um, as a result of that, I believe a lot

00:55:21.380 of people started learning about it in corporations, started putting pressure, American

00:55:25.940 corporations on members of Congress. Congress has started to talk about taking action against it.

00:55:32.800 Um, the commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick was asked about this and during his confirmation hearing

00:55:38.320 and he, uh, flower in a questionnaire that was given to him prior to his confirmation hearing,

00:55:44.280 I think. And he flat out said like, we'll do anything we can to stop it. This should not be

00:55:48.540 tolerated. It should not be allowed. Um, the E after Donald Trump won, the EU delayed implementation

00:55:55.520 of the law by a whole year, they pushed it back a whole year because they're terrified that the Trump

00:56:01.260 administration is going to push back against it with even more tariffs and other trade requirements.

00:56:06.740 Um, but the most exciting thing and the pushback against this EU ESG law comes from a, uh,

00:56:13.280 U S Senator named Bill Haggerty, who's a Senator from Tennessee. He proposed a law called the Protect

00:56:19.140 USA Act. And the whole point of this, uh, bill is to stop the EU ESG law. That's the entire reason

00:56:27.320 for the bill. Essentially what it would do is make it illegal for a lot of American companies to comply

00:56:34.520 with it. It actually forces a lot of American companies. They have a way of determining which

00:56:39.340 companies would be in this situation, um, to, uh, uh, avoid the compliance with this EU ESG law.

00:56:47.940 In addition to that, it would allow the president to basically designate almost any company or industry

00:56:53.460 as being important enough that those companies within that industry don't have to comply with it.

00:56:59.200 Uh, and it would allow people who have been harmed by this law to sue, uh, private companies that are

00:57:05.900 imposing these rules on them and get restitution. I think it's like up to a million dollars or

00:57:10.620 something like that. So in civil action, so it has, and then there's this other really incredibly

00:57:16.760 important part of the law that says that the president would have the ability to do basically

00:57:20.660 anything he needs to do to stop this, this EU ESG law or laws like it, other laws like it from,

00:57:27.440 uh, negatively impacting the United States. So it really gives, would give sweeping power to the

00:57:34.900 federal government to stop this EU ESG law, uh, because it's an assault on our national sovereignty

00:57:41.960 and what it means to be an American and what it means for us to chart our own destiny. Uh, we can't

00:57:46.740 have the European union imposing laws on our companies and transforming our society. So there has been a

00:57:53.580 lot of progress. Um, there's talk in the European union about revising the law. It looks like they are

00:57:59.020 going to revise it, water it down to what extent they water it down. We don't know, but it's a direct

00:58:04.880 reaction to the pushback that has come, um, and the Trump administration coming into power,

00:58:11.920 uh, from, you know, the pushback from the public and the Trump administration and some members of

00:58:16.980 Congress. Now the European union is starting to change its tune on all of this. So a lot more work

00:58:22.740 needs to be done on this. There's still a lot of people who have never heard of it. Don't know

00:58:25.760 anything about it. If we, if everybody in America knew about it, I guarantee this thing would be killed 0.99

00:58:30.260 almost overnight, but we have made a lot of progress and it really did look like a sort of

00:58:35.660 David versus Goliath situation for a long time. Nobody had ever heard of it. I've been following

00:58:40.580 this law for years, doing research on it. It just never really caught on. Um, and now there's suddenly

00:58:46.120 a lot of, uh, attention being given to this, especially among corporations and government officials.

00:58:51.580 Uh, so this is just further proof. You know, we saw this with, um, ESG generally and the great

00:58:58.440 reset. We saw this with the sort of the woke agenda that was being pushed by companies like

00:59:04.200 target and other companies. We're seeing this now with the EU ESG law. You know, you mentioned earlier

00:59:09.400 sort of sense of powerlessness that people have. I totally get it. I've been there. I felt that way

00:59:15.440 for a very long time. Um, but the truth is we have actually had some huge victories on our side,

00:59:22.720 not just political victories, but other kinds of victories as well. The culture is changing.

00:59:29.040 Younger people are much more likely to be conservative than millennials. Um, and, and the

00:59:34.520 world is moving more and more in our direction. And, uh, I think that the fact that we've been standing

00:59:42.300 up to some of the most powerful, richest institutions in the world for, uh, years now,

00:59:49.260 and we're actually seeing victories come out of that is proof that regular people still do have

00:59:56.140 a lot of power. And I think that the, the progressives and especially the sort of elitist

01:00:03.220 progressives, they bank on the idea that people feel powerless and that they won't feel like they can

01:00:09.860 do anything to stop these things from happening. But the truth is the pushback that we've had

01:00:14.520 against these large companies, against the European union, um, elections, and not just through

01:00:20.280 elections, but our, our personal individual actions, refusing to shop at certain places,

01:00:24.820 making it very clear on social media, how we feel about things. All of this has had a positive impact

01:00:30.860 on the world. And yes, more progress needs to be made. Yes. Artificial intelligence and emerging

01:00:35.920 technologies pose a lot of threats to us, but if we stay vigilant and we stay on top of things,

01:00:40.760 I really do believe that we're going to continue to see our side, uh, advance our side when, because

01:00:47.320 I believe we're on the right side of history. I believe that we are, uh, uh, doing the right

01:00:53.060 things that were morally grounded in truth and not just in our feelings and sort of subjective

01:00:59.400 shifting standards that don't really mean anything. And because of that, I think the truth will

01:01:04.520 ultimately win out. I really do believe that. Yeah. And I think that if you start with that

01:01:09.840 foundation, there's a lot of evidence to look at over the past five to 10 years that says,

01:01:14.880 yes, that act, that strategy is, it is working and we just have to keep fighting. And as long as we

01:01:20.660 don't give up, I think in the end, uh, the world will be a better, freer place. Yeah. And we all play

01:01:26.480 a role in that. Obviously you have a huge role in this, and I just want to, you know, amplify the

01:01:31.880 research you do. That's part of my role talking about some of these other things, but then everyone

01:01:37.200 has their role in voting with their dollar and how they raise their families, what they're teaching

01:01:42.120 their kids. I mean, self-reliance as a family, uh, ensuring again, that you know what your world

01:01:48.680 view is, which includes understanding what the Bible says. Like there's so much that you can do just

01:01:54.780 as an individual to play your part in this. Not everyone has the same part. Politicians have their

01:01:59.880 part. Commentators have their part. Researchers have their part. The parents, the professionals,

01:02:05.240 everyone plays their role in all of this and doing and saying what is true. It really matters.

01:02:11.500 Um, you're doing something to combat all of this. You've just created a fellowship program through

01:02:16.420 Mercury, uh, through Mercury one, and it's called the freedom rising fellowship program. It really is

01:02:23.420 doing and equipping young people to do a lot of what you're saying, pushing back against all of this.

01:02:29.240 So tell us about it. Yeah. So, uh, last year we started this fellowship program, 2024, uh, at the

01:02:37.140 American journey experience, which is part of Mercury one, uh, Mercury one was founded by Glenn

01:02:41.580 Beck. And, and, uh, you know, one of the things that Mercury one does is it educates young people

01:02:47.480 about American history, educates young people about, um, uh, worldview and, and, um, conservative

01:02:54.060 political philosophy and all of that stuff. And part of that effort is now this freedom rising

01:03:00.940 fellowship program that we have, where we're trying to train the next generation of young people

01:03:05.220 age 18 into their early thirties. So we're talking about people who are in college or their, uh, young

01:03:12.320 professionals or graduate school students somewhere in that range. We're trying to teach those people how

01:03:17.880 to become, uh, world changers, how to make an impact through research and public policy, how to get

01:03:24.840 things accomplished at the grassroots level through public policy, uh, through, um, you know, reaching

01:03:30.340 out to lawmakers and educating lawmakers and telling them about the next big issue and, um, and, and

01:03:36.320 learning just about all of these sort of crazy things that are going on in the world, uh, before other

01:03:41.660 people learn about them. How do we do these research? How do we conduct this research? How do we find

01:03:45.820 out about these new things before everybody else does? Me and my research team have been doing this

01:03:50.460 now for a very long time. We've been very successful at it. Um, and so people who are interested, if

01:03:55.900 you're, if you're a young person between the ages of 18 and say 35, you're interested in getting involved

01:04:01.560 in the pro-liberty movement. You want to be involved in journalism or media or public policy, or you want

01:04:07.280 to run for office, or you want to do something kind of right, something in that vein of things. You want to

01:04:13.640 become a conservative activist that helps make the world a better place. Uh, I encourage you to apply

01:04:19.420 to this fellowship program. You're going to learn a ton of great information. We're going to help you get

01:04:23.540 published. We're going to have you work on public policy that, um, might actually become laws passed at the

01:04:31.620 state or federal level. Uh, it's a really exciting opportunity. It's very selective, but I encourage anyone

01:04:37.500 who's interested to apply, you can do that by sending an email, a statement of interest with

01:04:43.380 your resume or CV and a couple of writing samples to fellowship at mercury one.org. You can also go

01:04:50.900 to mercury one.org, go to the education tab in the menu, and you can find a little bit more

01:04:56.280 information about the fellowship program and the dates and all of that stuff. But, uh, yeah, I'm really

01:05:00.940 excited about it. We had our first class last year. They were absolutely fantastic. We had a great

01:05:06.200 time. They got a lot of stuff published. Um, and I'm so excited to, uh, continue the program and also

01:05:12.240 to expand it in the years that come. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Justin. I really appreciate

01:05:17.320 the work you're doing and that you took the time to come on today. Thanks, Allie.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 21, 2025

Ep 1175 ｜ Singularity： Davos’ New AI-Backed Plan to Take Power ｜ Guest： Justin Haskins

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