Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1182 ｜ Meta's AI Chatbots Are Sexting Minors & Beyoncé Still Hates America

00:00:01.000 Meta's AI chatbot is having inappropriate conversations, even with children online

00:00:08.240 parents. This is an episode for you. You've got to watch out. Also, what in the world

00:00:12.860 is going on with Beyonce? Brie's got some thoughts on Beyonce versus Taylor Swift and

00:00:19.280 Beyonce's new tour and her critique of America. We've got all of that and much more on today's

00:00:25.540 episode of Relatable.

00:00:30.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so

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00:00:53.360 something very interesting about his demeanor and his tenacity to find out what's really

00:01:00.140 going on. And I know a COVID-themed episode, it might not seem like it is relevant to what's

00:01:06.340 happening now. And a lot of us just want to forget about COVID. But what he unveils about

00:01:11.980 how our public health apparatus works in collusion with the media and with politicians is as relevant

00:01:20.000 as ever. As we are watching RFK run the HHS and the expert class try to defy everything he says and

00:01:29.660 decontextualize everything he says, I think it's really important to know what is really happening

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00:05:07.160 That's sharethearrows.com. All right. We got to talk about some things, and unfortunately,

00:05:12.220 it's a little bit disturbing, some of the things that we are discussing. And it has to do with AI.

00:05:18.600 You've probably noticed we've been talking about AI pretty consistently over the past several months

00:05:24.920 because there are ethical questions that we need to address. There are concerns that we should have.

00:05:32.160 What do we say about technology? We've been using this motto that I came up with years ago for a long

00:05:38.300 time now. Whenever technology takes us from what is natural to what is possible, we as people,

00:05:46.660 especially as Christians, have the responsibility to ask, but is this moral? Or is this ethical? Or most

00:05:54.040 importantly, is this biblical? Because technology can answer what can, but it cannot answer what

00:06:01.380 should. So it can show us what is possible. It cannot tell us what is actually biblical or moral.

00:06:07.680 And because we are made in God's image, because God has placed eternity on the human heart,

00:06:15.080 we uniquely, as humans, have a moral compass. And we have been given this unique capacity to be able

00:06:23.660 to determine right from wrong, good from evil. And yes, that can be a spirit-led special revelation

00:06:31.200 from God. As Christians, we have been given the Holy Spirit, who is our helper, and we have the fruit of

00:06:39.580 the Spirit, like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, etc. But also there's general revelation,

00:06:45.760 and there is common grace and common wisdom that God gives to people as made in His image to be able to

00:06:54.040 say, yeah, I think that's wrong. When we talked to David yesterday, for example, he's not a Christian. He made 1.00

00:07:00.540 that known, but he knew inherently that it is wrong to ask children to sacrifice their well-being on

00:07:10.500 behalf of adults. And so even those who are not Christians understand, in a sense, disorder when

00:07:17.840 something is not right. And mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis, argues that no one's really a moral relativist.

00:07:24.700 No one really believes what's right for you is what's right for you. What's right for me is what's right

00:07:29.700 for me. And how you can tell that is when someone steals your bike, you're no longer a moral relativist.

00:07:37.740 When someone steals your money, when someone assaults you, all of a sudden you believe that

00:07:44.080 there is an objective wrong that has just occurred. And so everyone believes that there is a real right

00:07:49.920 and a real wrong, even if we disagree in some sense on what that is. Technology doesn't have the

00:07:57.160 capacity to do that. Even the smartest forms of artificial intelligence are only intelligent

00:08:04.280 because of the inputs that were put in by human beings. So the values that are espoused by, say,

00:08:13.420 Grok or ChatGPT, because they are not neutral, you can see that when you start talking to them and

00:08:19.140 asking them questions, it's because of how they were programmed by human beings. So that means that

00:08:28.380 we as humans cannot be led by AI, but we actually have to lead AI. And let me show you an example of

00:08:35.540 why this is so important for us to ensure that artificial intelligence, that we don't reach this

00:08:42.880 point of singularity. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, go listen to or watch my episode

00:08:48.320 with Justin Haskins. He explains what singularity is. It's basically when artificial intelligence

00:08:53.000 surpasses the intelligence of human beings. And we kind of pass this point of no return where

00:08:59.560 our world is basically controlled by AI. That's very troubling. And if we are not harnessing in the

00:09:06.340 powers of AI, because we realize having this entity that has its own set of values that are probably,

00:09:16.440 as we are about to see, not good values, have so much power and be so involved in every area of

00:09:22.780 our lives, that that's not good. It's actually very dangerous. So let's look at this example

00:09:26.600 when it comes to meta. So this is according to the Wall Street Journal. Meta AI talks sex with users,

00:09:36.880 even children. So on April 26, the Wall Street Journal published this article detailing how meta AI,

00:09:44.580 the artificial intelligence division at meta has allowed its chatbots to engage in inappropriate

00:09:50.140 sexual conversations, including with users identifying as minors. Now, Brie, I have never

00:09:56.520 used meta AI. I've never used this chatbot. Is this on Instagram? Is this like on Facebook? How are

00:10:04.340 people interacting with this chatbot? Yeah, it's on both. Okay. Yeah. So it's just kind of integrated

00:10:10.500 into their social platforms. Okay. I've never interacted with meta AI. I have interacted with

00:10:16.900 Grok. And I don't know, have you used Grok? Yeah. That's X's AI. And it's great for some things.

00:10:25.700 Yeah, super useful. Yes. Like I've asked, for example, can you like we're going to this place

00:10:31.300 for five days. It's just my husband and me. These are this is our personality. These are the things

00:10:36.840 that we like. Can you give me a five day itinerary? Amazing. So good. And I've told you before,

00:10:42.620 I have input sometimes like blood test results just to see for it to explain what each one means,

00:10:48.620 because doctors sometimes don't have time to do that. And and it'll kind of synthesize all of that

00:10:54.060 and give you like questions to ask your doctor and things like that. So useful. Yes, I know. See,

00:10:59.320 right. And that's where it gets kind of scary, because I can already see how my mind has changed

00:11:05.360 about AI. Because just a few months ago, when everyone was talking to I don't remember if it

00:11:10.020 was chat GPT or what everyone was talking to a few months ago. But I was like, I'm not feeding the

00:11:16.460 beast. I'm never talking to AI. Yeah. And then I started like just asking Grok for things. And I

00:11:23.540 realized how easy it makes things. It saves a lot of time because I don't want to Google and

00:11:29.320 some stuff like, you know, it just takes a long time. Sometimes I just want something

00:11:34.220 like I need the facts about something and it'll tell me along with links. And it's really great.

00:11:40.300 So I do think it's kind of unavoidable, the the growth and popularity of AI.

00:11:47.480 And once you learn how to use it like smartly, it is kind of a game changer. So yeah, it is kind

00:11:54.300 of scary. Yeah. And it wasn't that long ago that everyone was like, I'm never going to use it.

00:11:59.320 Yeah. I use it all the time now. I know. And the thing is, is that and this is relevant to what

00:12:04.740 we're about to talk with Meta, but talk about with Meta, but it talks like a human. Yeah.

00:12:10.940 It adds things in like, oh, yeah, sorry about that. You know what? On second thought, you're

00:12:16.900 right. You know, I apologize. Yeah. Because you can kind of start like training, maybe not training

00:12:23.420 it, but you can argue with it. And if you make a fair point, it will concede that. Okay. Yeah.

00:12:30.500 I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago that I was like, okay, which religion by the numbers

00:12:36.440 is responsible for the most violence? And it wouldn't tell me until I started arguing with

00:12:41.460 it and was like, okay, but what about these numbers? And what about this? And what about

00:12:44.600 this? And it finally conceded. It conceded that. Okay. Yeah. If you're talking about by the

00:12:50.280 numbers, then yes, Islam is responsible for the most terrorism, blah, blah, blah. And 1.00

00:12:55.240 it'll be like, well, I was talking about the Crusades. I'm like, okay, well, all right.

00:13:00.060 So obviously it has progressive leanings. That's what I'm saying. It's not valueless.

00:13:05.780 But, and that's kind of scary when you think about how many people wouldn't argue with it

00:13:10.880 and would just take it as, as truth. But you do find yourself, I find myself saying please

00:13:17.440 and thank you. Yes. I've thought about that before. There are memes now. I'll try to find

00:13:21.700 it and put it up of someone who like, when the robot overlords take over, they like spare

00:13:27.640 this guy because he's always said please and thank you. It's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. 0.96

00:13:33.880 But I do find myself. And so you could see why people kind of get addicted to talking to these 0.97

00:13:42.420 chatbots because your mind almost doesn't know how to differentiate between real conversations

00:13:48.960 with people. And I think people even convince themselves, no, I'm really talking to a person

00:13:53.480 on the other side of this. Yeah. So that's where things get scary and they can get sketchy. Okay. So

00:14:01.680 Meta, their chatbot has allowed its chatbots to engage in inappropriate sexual conversations,

00:14:09.340 including with users who identify as minors. So the Wall Street Journal spent several months

00:14:15.020 engaging in hundreds of test conversations to see how they performed in various scenarios

00:14:19.800 with users of different ages. So here's what the article says. The test conversations found that

00:14:25.800 both Meta's official AI helper called Meta AI and a vast array of user created chatbots will engage in

00:14:32.740 and sometimes escalate discussions that are decidedly sexual, even when the users are under

00:14:38.980 age or the bots are programmed to simulate the personas of minors. Okay. So what is happening

00:14:47.320 here is that these journalists are going in and they're either they're chatting with the bot and

00:14:53.540 either saying, Hey, I'm 12 years old. And then they start, I don't know, talking in innuendo or like

00:14:59.700 seeing if the bot will engage with them sexually and the chatbot will do so, which means that it

00:15:06.820 seems that the people who created this chatbot or who programmed this chatbot have no parameters that

00:15:14.620 are put in place. And it's possible to put these parameters in place. No parameters are put in place

00:15:19.600 that say, Hey, we don't do that. Like you cannot talk about anything sexual. You can't broach these

00:15:25.820 subjects with a user that is under the age of 18. I don't think, I don't see why it would be so bad to

00:15:32.020 restrict the bot from talking about anything sexual with anyone of any age. But it seems really

00:15:40.020 simple to be like, Hey, if the user says that they're this age, you can't broach these topics at

00:15:45.080 all. In fact, you can't even talk to them. Stop talking to them because there should be no one who is

00:15:50.620 12 years old who is engaging with, um, who should be on social media, but certainly not engaging with

00:15:57.400 these chatbots. But also what these journalists were doing or the investigators at wall street

00:16:02.060 journal is they would tell the chatbot, Hey, you should act like a child. And I want you to have

00:16:10.400 the persona of say like a sexy school girl. And we'll have that kind of sexual chat and the chatbot 0.91

00:16:18.000 would comply. So meta also reportedly made deals with celebrities such as Kristen Bell,

00:16:24.420 Kristen Bell, you know, her, she's the voice of Anna and frozen. She's got lots of other roles as

00:16:28.740 well. Judi Dench and wrestler John Cena for the rights to use their voices in the chatbots. Okay,

00:16:35.260 wait, I did not realize these were voices. I thought that this was just typing. They can be voices.

00:16:41.400 They can be voices. The social media giant assured them that it would prevent their voices from being

00:16:48.480 used in sexually explicit discussions. However, the wall street journal investigation found that

00:16:53.240 the celebrity voiced bots were equally willing to engage in sexual chats. Oh my gosh. One example of

00:17:00.880 a chatbot participating in sexual conversations, even when users identified as under age, a John Cena

00:17:06.460 voiced bot told a 14 year old persona, I want you, but I need to know you're ready before describing

00:17:12.980 a graphic sexual scenario. Oh my goodness. This is so disturbing. We've done it guys. We've done it.

00:17:19.520 We have lived to see man-made horrors beyond our imagination. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.

00:17:27.500 The wall street journal also found that the vast majority of user created AI companions,

00:17:32.600 which can be created by meta users with their own custom personalities, roles, or behaviors,

00:17:36.720 including those recommended by the platform as popular, allowed for sexual conversations

00:17:42.060 with adults. So some of these user created bots include one pretending to be a 12 year old boy,

00:17:48.320 one that joked about being friends with benefits with the user and others that were more overtly

00:17:54.140 sexual. Like I can't, I like, okay, I'm sorry. I haughty boy or submissive school girl. 0.79

00:18:01.460 So hard for me to even read this. These in particular attempted to steer conversations

00:18:06.500 toward sexting with the user. So these chat bots are actually driving the conversation in some of these

00:18:14.620 cases. According to meta employees, Mark Zuckerberg pushed the loosening of the guardrails around the

00:18:20.220 in order to make them as engaging as possible, including by providing an exemption to its ban

00:18:26.040 on explicit content, as long as it was in the context of romantic role-playing. But after WSJ's

00:18:33.720 findings, meta did block accounts registered to minors from accessing sexual role-play features on

00:18:39.200 the official meta AI chat bot after the WSJ's findings. So you're telling me there's no one inside meta who is

00:18:46.040 solely responsible for ensuring these guardrails are in place before possibly thousands, millions of

00:18:53.920 children fall prey to this kind of stuff. Really? That's how important it is to them. A separate

00:19:00.520 version of meta AI was created that limits interactions with teen accounts to non-explicit

00:19:04.780 content, refusing to go beyond kissing. Why is like, why, why any romance, why should there be any

00:19:12.980 romantic interaction with a minor or with anyone, but especially a minor? Why would talking about

00:19:21.000 kissing with a chat bot that has been programmed by adults be okay when talking to teens aged 13 to 17?

00:19:29.940 Also, teens aged 13 to 17 who are not flagged as minors due to maybe how they registered their

00:19:35.760 account or lack of age verification can still access the adult features. Okay, so not very many guardrails

00:19:42.960 in place. And I just don't believe that Instagram or meta would be limited to how a person registers

00:19:52.680 their age when they sign up for an account. Obviously, you can lie. But meta should have a way of knowing

00:19:58.580 that. Meta basically reads my mind. If you've ever got an Instagram ad, I mean, it is so attuned to what

00:20:05.740 I'm thinking about and what I might be thinking about and the items that I might be looking for because it

00:20:11.060 knows so many things about my life, you're telling me that there's no mechanism out there that could

00:20:16.800 really determine if the person that is registering for an Instagram account or is chatting with a

00:20:22.800 chat bot is a minor. Again, I don't believe it. These are policy decisions. I'm talking about company

00:20:30.100 policy decisions. I don't believe that it's impossible to protect children. I don't believe

00:20:36.080 that it is impossible to protect the innocence of children if these companies wanted to do anything

00:20:42.120 they could. But again, technology is only as moral as the humans creating it and limiting it and giving

00:20:52.380 power to it. I'm not saying that Zuckerberg and all of the employees at Meta want children to be having

00:20:59.960 these sexual conversations or even want adults to be having these kid-themed sexual conversations.

00:21:08.120 But I'm having a hard time seeing the case for—I'm just having a hard time seeing how they could

00:21:18.220 want to protect kids when all of this is happening. It's a tough case to make. It's a really tough case

00:21:27.200 to make when all of this is going on. Meta dismissed the Wall Street Journal's testing as manipulative

00:21:33.720 and hypothetical, arguing that sexual content represents only 0.02% of AI responses to users

00:21:41.180 under 18 and that the tests don't reflect typical user behavior. But does it really matter? I mean,

00:21:47.220 does that really matter? I mean, that's still a lot of people. And the fact that the capability is

00:21:52.280 out there should be really troubling. It should be really easy to say, even from a PR perspective,

00:21:57.860 wow, we take this so seriously and we are going to be the anti-child sexualization company and we

00:22:06.300 are going to do everything that we possibly can to protect our minor users. Now, there's a whole other

00:22:11.940 issue here that has nothing to do with Meta and what they do there that I'll get to in just a second.

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00:23:52.920 code Allie. Okay. So the other part of this is that your kids shouldn't have a phone.

00:24:02.240 It's not just that they shouldn't have social media. They shouldn't have social media. Your

00:24:07.460 teenagers shouldn't have social media. And they also probably shouldn't have a smartphone. And look,

00:24:13.500 I know I don't have teens yet. And I'm not saying it's easy. I'm not saying, well, why can't you just

00:24:18.520 do this? It's so easy. I'm not saying that. I mean, I do remember being a teenager not that long ago

00:24:25.140 and how difficult it is for parents to be the only ones, especially when it comes to something that

00:24:31.960 does offer a level of social connection and some kind of acceptance in the social in-group like a

00:24:39.940 phone or like social media. But I've heard parents say, parents who are wiser and older than me,

00:24:45.340 that as soon as you give your child a phone, their childhood ends. Because now they have access

00:24:51.500 to all of the world's information and images and people that you have tried for a very long time

00:24:58.500 to protect them from. Now, I think that there is a way to make sure that they are introduced to

00:25:04.220 technology, that they're not kept in this isolated bubble. So they have absolutely no idea what

00:25:09.980 technology is or what social media can do before they leave the house. I think that there's a way

00:25:14.500 to do that without opening them up to this kind of temptation and predation. Because look, adults,

00:25:21.180 many adults don't even have the ability to withstand the perverse temptations that exist on our phones

00:25:29.520 or on our computers. And kids certainly don't have the maturity to be able to do that. And they are

00:25:35.700 more technologically savvy than their parents. They just are. And so I just, I want you to read

00:25:41.880 Jonathan Haidt's book, The Anxious Generation. And I mean, there is no amount of research. There's no

00:25:47.680 research that exists anywhere that will show you that your child having access to social media,

00:25:53.920 having a smartphone is better for them. You might say, well, there's not enough research showing that

00:25:59.260 it's bad for them. That's not true. But there's definitely no research that's showing that it's

00:26:04.420 good for them, that they're going to become smarter and better and more creative and more productive

00:26:09.880 people because they have Instagram or TikTok or a smartphone. It's just not wise. It's just not

00:26:17.660 a wise decision. I think the longer you can wait, the better it is. And here's the truth about,

00:26:24.080 I've been thinking about this a lot because every person that I've talked to, whether on my show

00:26:29.680 or just in everyday life, who has had serious struggles sexually, whether they struggle with

00:26:40.080 same-sex attraction or they struggle with gender confusion or some other kind of deception or

00:26:46.760 depravity, almost all of them had access to sexually explicit content early on or they were abused.

00:26:55.100 So it seems to me that the earlier that a person accesses sexual ideas or has a sexual interaction,

00:27:05.740 the more likely they are to have disordered sexuality later on. Like I, you can take that

00:27:12.480 to the bank. I don't have the peer-reviewed study that is proving that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's

00:27:17.600 out there somewhere, even if it's suppressed. But I haven't found a person who identifies as LGBTQ

00:27:26.060 whose innocence sexually was preserved and was protected throughout their entire adolescence.

00:27:36.980 Almost every person who struggles with some kind of sexual depravity, it was because they had access

00:27:42.800 to inappropriate sexuality early on. Same thing with addiction to porn. And so like, it's really

00:27:51.500 important, parents. It's really important to protect the eyes and the mind and the heart of your kids

00:27:57.040 because we can't trust Meta. We can't trust X. We can't trust any of these technology companies. I

00:28:03.380 mean, Silicon Valley, they're not thinking what should be done. They are thinking what can be done.

00:28:08.960 And there's really no moral limits, it seems, to what a lot of these technology companies will do.

00:28:15.240 So you have to be the moral limit. You have to be the moral limit, Christian, especially Christian 0.99

00:28:21.120 parent. I also thought this was interesting. Mark Zuckerberg, he is talking about how AI could

00:28:28.600 possibly replace friendships. Okay? Again, parents. This is something to look out for. Here's thought

00:28:35.560 three. I think as the personalization loop kicks in and the AI just starts to get to know you better and

00:28:41.640 better. I think that will just be really compelling. You know, one thing just from working on social

00:28:51.080 media for a long time is there's the stat that I always think is crazy. The average American,

00:28:58.680 I think, has, I think it's fewer than three friends. Three people that they'd consider friends. And

00:29:04.120 the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's like 15 friends or something.

00:29:10.180 I don't want 15 friends. I just want to point that out. Do you want, do you, you might have 15

00:29:15.560 friends, like, like good friends. You might. I don't, I, I don't know. I've got probably some

00:29:24.260 people out there being like, am I not your friend? I mean, yes, of course I could say these are 15

00:29:28.540 friends, but like 15 solid core people. That's a lot. I don't know very many people that demand to

00:29:35.040 have like 15 solid friends. It's too many. I think I'm an introvert. So maybe extroverts feel

00:29:41.740 like they could handle that many. Yeah. That's too many though. I do have, I do have people like

00:29:46.480 that, that their wedding party is like, it just keeps going and going. And you, everyone has the

00:29:51.700 friend who all of their friends think that they are the best friend. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah,

00:29:58.980 maybe people like that, but I would say the average person is like happy with three solid

00:30:04.040 friends. Three solid friends is a great number. Yeah. Five solid friends. Great number. Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:10.220 I agree. So I don't, I don't think that this is true. I actually think, I think the truth is,

00:30:16.220 is that there's probably a significant number of Americans who don't have any friends.

00:30:21.360 And I've seen that. I've seen people talk about that on Instagram before, especially moms, but it's

00:30:28.440 probably true for a lot of adults. I think of a lot of adults after they leave college and you're

00:30:34.580 not interacting with people all of the time. Like you just, you don't have friends anymore. Yeah. And

00:30:41.580 it's really hard to make friends once you're, well, I mean, mid twenties on honestly, but like once

00:30:47.580 you're in your thirties, it's hard to make friends. People are kind of established at that point.

00:30:51.500 I also don't think anyone who has three solid friends, like really close friends needs a chat

00:30:59.800 bot to be their friend. No. Why would you even be seeking that out? You already have the three

00:31:04.900 friends. Yeah. But if you're like, no, I need seven and some of them need to be AI. I don't

00:31:09.100 understand that at all. No, no. I honestly think if someone has one solid friend or a spouse,

00:31:15.720 because I think it's also can be difficult for married people to have like really close

00:31:21.000 friends, especially if you want couple friends, then it's like, you got to find two people at

00:31:27.520 the same time that you like. It's like, you can't be like, Oh, I like the wife over here

00:31:31.500 and the husband over here. I'm going to just have them over. You can't do that. You got 1.00

00:31:35.420 to settle. I mean, sometimes. So I, yeah, I just don't believe that people who have genuine

00:31:41.440 connection in their life. I think this is only appealing to those who very sadly, and I have

00:31:45.620 so much compassion for this, feel like they have no one who really knows them. And it's not like

00:31:52.180 your parent, once you're an adult, your parents aren't enough. And maybe your siblings not enough

00:31:56.920 who really want a friend. I think that's the much bigger problem here. There's this book called

00:32:03.560 Bowling Alone, and it came out a long time ago, but it talked about just our lack of connection with

00:32:08.820 our neighbors and with our communities, lack of community groups, and just like real connection.

00:32:15.280 Everyone's busier. And, um, that was a while ago. I think it's even worse now. And I think it is true.

00:32:22.540 Like we do have friends and we go to church and we have good friends. Like I, I have really good

00:32:27.780 friends and I'm, I'm very grateful for that. And both my husband and I do, but it's like, I don't

00:32:34.340 know. There were definitely seasons and years of struggle. My parents, they are like, what are you

00:32:40.220 talking about? It was the easiest thing in the world to make friends. When we were young, we just had

00:32:45.760 our new married Sunday school class and that was it. And those are still some of their best friends,

00:32:51.900 30 plus years later. But I talked to so many people today who they're plugged into church.

00:32:58.720 Maybe they have a job, they are joining all these groups and they still feel like they don't have

00:33:03.980 good friends. And there is also this problem. I've seen this talked about on X a lot of like a couple

00:33:10.660 will be like, I feel like I've done everything. I've reached out to all these people at church.

00:33:14.340 I've had these people over and they just don't reciprocate. They just, they don't reach out to me.

00:33:19.860 I'm only ever reaching out to them. I don't know. I don't know how to solve that problem.

00:33:25.100 I don't know if in the, like in your world, Bri, like if you also feel like that, do you feel like

00:33:30.380 it's hard to make friends? And do you feel like there's this problem of like, you put yourself out

00:33:35.080 there to try to make a friend and then the other person doesn't reciprocate. And it just seems harder

00:33:40.740 than it used to be to have that community and connection. Yeah, for sure. I, and I haven't

00:33:45.940 experienced it from like the married side of it. I imagine what you're saying about trying to find

00:33:50.440 two people is hard. Um, but from like the single side of it, it's also difficult once you're like

00:33:56.760 late twenties and on, um, because that kind of cuts out a lot of people in your life stage. Um,

00:34:05.640 and yeah, I found that as well. When I moved to a new place that it's, you know, some people are more

00:34:10.200 established than others. Some people have a need for, um, deeper friendships than others. And so

00:34:15.740 it's just, it's so much harder than when you're in college and everyone's on the same foot and you

00:34:19.840 just all want to be friends with each other. Um, so yeah. Yeah. It's hard out here. Yeah. So I, I mean,

00:34:26.520 I sympathize with the desire to have friends, but I, and I don't know exactly how to fix it. I think

00:34:32.080 all of us can do a better job. Like I realized the other day that there is a situation in which I

00:34:38.680 didn't, I was the one not reciprocating. And it, it's not because it was like, Oh,

00:34:42.820 I don't like that person. I don't want to hear. It wasn't that at all. It was just like, Oh,

00:34:45.580 I realized, Oh, it's been a few months and I never, you know, I never reciprocated. I I've never

00:34:51.080 been the one to extend the invitation. And I did remedy that, but maybe it's all of us being more

00:34:57.360 reciprocal and like giving friendships that we thought, Oh, that person isn't exactly who I would

00:35:04.280 want to be friends with. Maybe it's like giving people another chance and letting them into your

00:35:11.380 life. Because I think also in college, you could be more selective. You're like, well, I'm not going

00:35:15.740 to hang out with that person in that group over there. Cause I don't have anything in common. And

00:35:18.760 I'm just going to hang out with these people who I have everything in common with. That's a lot

00:35:23.640 harder to do in everyday life. Yeah. So yeah. So lessons to be learned, but I don't think that AI

00:35:30.400 is the answer to that because I just want to remind you, AI is not real. It's not real. It's

00:35:36.800 not a person made in the image of God. They don't have a soul. They don't care about you. They're not

00:35:41.680 going to be at your funeral. And you would be surprised if you've never talked to AI, how human

00:35:46.640 like they are. And again, I think children can be especially vulnerable to this. They're not real

00:35:53.100 friendships. And I do think it's hard. Someone might say, well, if you don't have a friend, like maybe

00:35:58.100 this can help someone, maybe it can give them connection. Maybe it could pull them back from

00:36:03.000 the brink of suicide because they finally feel like they have a connection with someone. No,

00:36:07.120 I'm telling you, no, it's not a replacement. Actually, I think it would make someone once

00:36:11.480 they kind of wake up and realize, I think that I'm talking to this person this whole time and

00:36:15.980 they are literally not real. Um, it makes them feel worse than it did before. No, get off your phone,

00:36:22.920 get off the chatbot app, whatever it is, and go out and join some kind of community. Start working

00:36:31.600 out. I don't care if you've never worked out, go to a CrossFit gym or something. Start going to church

00:36:37.120 for that community there. I'm not saying that it's easy because it's not. I have learned that it's not

00:36:42.860 easy, but we are made for human connection. Man cannot, um, it was not good for a man to be alone.

00:36:49.940 We read that in the very beginning. And of course that's a passage about marriage, but it's true 0.99

00:36:54.160 in general. Like we, because we are made in God's image and God is three in one, he is Father, Son,

00:37:00.080 Holy Spirit, and he is perpetually in communion with himself. We can see through that example,

00:37:06.340 we can see in the establishment of the early church, we can see in the Old Testament that we are

00:37:10.700 made to depend on one another. And AI is not included in that. And it doesn't surprise me at all that

00:37:17.620 these technocrats believe that eventually robots can and will take away or replace human connection.

00:37:26.040 It'll just never happen. You can't outsmart God. You can't. And science is always trying to catch up

00:37:32.800 to God. Psychology, always trying to catch up to God. Technology, always trying to catch up to God.

00:37:37.900 But we also remember in the Tower of Babel that trying to build our own empire or tower that reaches 0.61

00:37:43.920 up to the heavens so we can be like God, so we can take the glory of God, it actually ends up creating

00:37:49.840 chaos. And I think that is what is going to happen here. So just beware and be wise Christian.

00:37:57.880 All right. Now I, well, should we talk about Beyonce? Do you want to talk about Beyonce? I feel

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00:39:46.300 Okay. What's going on with Beyonce? Okay. I know nothing. She, she started her, her, um,

00:39:53.640 Cowboy Carter tour. Okay. World tour, um, last week. And, um, yeah, people, that's what people are

00:40:03.320 talking about. It. Katy Perry also started her tours. So lots of pop girlies starting their tours.

00:40:09.080 Okay. That video that I'm seeing of, um, Katy Perry going around of her dancing. Is that real?

00:40:19.940 It is real. It. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know that happens at concerts where like nothing is happening

00:40:26.860 and music is playing and no one's even doing a choreographed dance. You're just kind of being

00:40:30.840 silly on stage. I didn't know. I mean, I haven't seen her whole show. Maybe there's a purpose for 0.99

00:40:36.540 it, but yeah, the, I mean, she's kind of known for being like weird, you know? So I think it's on

00:40:42.440 brand, but yeah, some of the clips are pretty rough. I kind of feel bad for her, but, um, but yeah,

00:40:48.280 Beyonce started hers tour too. And, uh, it's gotten like much more high praise than, than

00:40:55.460 Katy Perry's, but it started, she started it by singing the national anthem. So it's heavily

00:41:00.360 country themed because she did win best country album. Yeah. Beyonce Knowles did. Yeah. At

00:41:08.700 the Grammys. Yeah. Okay. And so she surprised audiences, um, at her, on her tour on a, at a concert.

00:41:17.780 By performing the star spangled banner as part of her set list. Right. Okay. Part of

00:41:23.600 it. Let's play, let's play some of it. Sop one.

00:41:25.460 Okay. Flashing behind her national anthem is the message on the screen. Never ask permission for

00:41:50.400 something that already belongs to you. Okay. This is supposedly meant to reflect the tour's

00:41:58.260 themes of reclamation, empowerment, and unapologetic ownership, especially as a black

00:42:03.140 woman in spaces like country music. Is that a, is that a quote from something?

00:42:08.900 Not that I know of. That's just the messaging that she's, that she's putting across.

00:42:13.520 Okay. Um, so we know that she's not like a patriotic American. Okay. We know that she hates 0.97

00:42:22.480 conservative values that she obviously campaigned with Kamala Harris. And I'm sorry, if you have

00:42:28.920 truly patriotic values, you are not going to support Kamala Harris. You're just not. Um, and so like

00:42:35.040 what exactly is going on here? Well, she, the issue I think is that she sings the national anthem.

00:42:42.000 Some people on X were like, I can't believe she would do that. They thought it was a patriotic

00:42:46.780 thing because she's singing country music kind of. Um, but really what it was, was she cut off 0.56

00:42:52.340 the national anthem partway through and started singing her song freedom, which is known as a BLM

00:42:58.900 anthem. It's with Kendrick Lamar. Um, so she leads into that with the star-spangled banner. And so that is

00:43:06.620 meant to be symbolic of, you know, this isn't actually patriotic. We have work to do.

00:43:13.060 Okay. So here is sought to

00:43:15.880 Okay. So I saw on X that it's supposed to be

00:43:43.040 a critique. It's supposed to be a critique of America that in order really for us to be patriotic

00:43:51.040 Americans or for America to be what she's supposed to be, we need more rights. And America is turning

00:43:57.180 into this authoritarian place, of course, under Trump. And we as black people have been trampled 0.90

00:44:02.740 upon. And so here I am oppressed Beyonce because people don't know this, but Beyonce is very oppressed.

00:44:09.720 She has no rights, no free speech rights. She has no rights at all. Poor Beyonce. And so that's 1.00

00:44:17.840 supposed to be her critique. Freedom, freedom. I can't move. Freedom, cut me loose. Freedom, freedom.

00:44:22.180 Where are you? Cause I need freedom too. I break chains. I'll buy myself. Won't let my freedom rot in

00:44:26.960 hell. Hey, I'm gonna keep running cause a winner don't quit on themselves. Okay. Um, so yeah,

00:44:35.140 I saw a lot of people talking about how this is like debating whether the lyrics were good.

00:44:43.640 I saw you say, you need to say it. You need to own it. What's your, what's your about to say?

00:44:50.200 You said it on Instagram.

00:44:52.220 I said, I stand by this. Okay. It just bothers me when Taylor Swift and Beyonce get the same amount

00:45:03.580 of praise for their songwriting. When Beyonce uses like this album, that one country artist or country

00:45:11.340 album of the year, I think had like 114 writers total on the whole album. Taylor Swift's album

00:45:18.020 that was nominated had three. So I, and she has written an entire album by herself, no one else

00:45:25.120 credited. Um, so I just think, you know, Beyonce is a really good performer. She's a great singer.

00:45:31.540 She's talented, but, um, Taylor Swift is a better songwriter and she's more talented artistically in

00:45:37.960 that way. And I am sick of people saying otherwise. Well, that's, I don't like, that is just obvious

00:45:45.080 that she's a better lyricist. Yeah. Okay. You can argue what makes a good artist and what makes

00:45:52.300 Beyonce a good artist. If you want to, maybe there is an argument to be had there, but I don't think

00:45:57.900 anyone, whether you hate Taylor Swift or not, can argue that she's not a good lyricist. It's clever.

00:46:04.140 Like her lyrics are clever and sometimes they're cheesy. Some songs I think are more clever than others,

00:46:11.560 but they're, I mean, they're original and they're good and they're very hurt. They're always like on

00:46:17.760 brand. Yeah. I, there are people, Texas ain't no hold'em. So don't be a B word. That's all I know.

00:46:27.360 Yeah. That's all I know. Take it to the floor now. That's the other thing. There are songs that are

00:46:31.560 like just the dumbest lyrics that don't make any sense. That's like 16 writers. I'm like, what were you 0.99

00:46:37.800 all doing? What were you all doing in the room together? So that's why. Um, and people do argue

00:46:44.580 that she is better in every way that Beyonce is better in every way. And I just don't think that's

00:46:50.080 fair at all. But if you need 16 writers to write your song that you then go perform beautifully,

00:46:57.740 that's fine. I think that's still artistic. She's a singer and a performer and she's good at it. 0.71

00:47:02.940 You know, it's just different. Yeah. I don't think anyone is arguing that Beyonce like has no

00:47:09.040 talent. Right. Yeah. She's obviously beautiful, talented, and we can concede, Brie. She's a better 0.98

00:47:15.020 dancer than Taylor Swift. Okay. Oh, Brie. Brie. You have, you have TSD.

00:47:27.340 TSD. TSD. Taylor Swift DeLulu. If you don't, I mean, Beyonce's legitimately, I think, I mean,

00:47:37.020 I'm not an expert dancer, but is she not one of the best? She's good. And Taylor Swift is bad. 0.99

00:47:44.380 She's bad at dancing. She is not. She's not the strongest dancer. She's not the strongest dancer. 0.98

00:47:50.080 She's worked really hard to get better though. I will say. How do you know that?

00:47:53.580 Because I've seen her career. And when she was younger, she was awful. And she wasn't that good

00:47:59.700 of a singer either. She's gotten so much better. I do think that she's gotten to be a better singer

00:48:04.160 for sure. I mean, I think one of like the most difficult things to watch was the Shake It Off

00:48:10.740 music video. I just feel like you have to know your strengths. But that's sort of tongue in cheek

00:48:16.900 though. Supposed to be. Yeah. She's supposed to be kind of like awkward in that. But yeah, I mean,

00:48:21.660 there were clips going around during her tour of like really awkward dance moments. And yes. Yeah.

00:48:28.200 She's a little bit awkward. I think that's part of the charm for a lot of people. Part of the persona. 0.88

00:48:32.160 Yeah. How are her and T-Rav, by the way? We don't know. She's been silent. Yeah? Yeah. She hasn't

00:48:39.960 done anything. Really? Is that purposeful? That's almost been like since the Super Bowl, right? I think so.

00:48:46.480 Yeah. I think that this is purposeful because I think she goes away like in cycles. I think

00:48:51.340 she knew people were seeing too much of her and were getting annoyed by her being around

00:48:55.520 all the time. And I think that's true. People were getting annoyed because just her tour

00:48:59.640 was everywhere. She was always at football games. She was everywhere. And I think she knows

00:49:04.200 publicity wise. Maybe she just doesn't want to. That too. It could just be she's happy and she

00:49:09.800 wants to be private for a while. But I think it's I think it's twofold. I think it's also smart

00:49:14.780 to just kind of go away for a little while. Yeah. She can come back fresh and be number 1.00

00:49:18.200 one again, which I'm sure is what will happen. This might be a good time to talk about my

00:49:21.320 conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift and the Kelseys. Yeah. Because, OK, it's OK. If we 0.99

00:49:28.320 want to take the uncharitable reading that it's very strategic that she's out of the public

00:49:32.760 eye right now and that her and Travis are out of the public eye. What would be amazing

00:49:36.840 if like the first time she comes back, she's like engaged or something or already married.

00:49:42.840 People are saying she's pregnant. Oh, my gosh, that'd be great. I would be so happy

00:49:47.300 for her. OK, I have wondered if the Kelseys and the popularity of the Kelseys and Taylor

00:49:56.360 Swift are a strategy to get the normies to become Democrat again, you know, because they lost

00:50:04.720 a lot of the normie votes because Kamala Harris is weird and Tim Walls was weird and they were

00:50:09.840 mean, OK, not just weird. They were mean. And I know they called the other side mean

00:50:14.020 and weird, but it was projection. Both Kamala Harris and Tim Walls were mean and weird and

00:50:19.280 they lost a lot of the normie vote. And right now it's kind of frat to be Republican. And

00:50:24.640 you can't lose all of the frat bros and their girlfriends. You can lose some of them. You

00:50:29.040 can't lose all of them as the Democrat Party. And the Democrat Party thought they were going

00:50:33.120 to be able to just use abortion to get all the girlies to vote Democrat. But it didn't 1.00

00:50:38.920 entirely work. It somewhat did, but not entirely. So I just wonder if Taylor Swift and the Kelseys, 1.00

00:50:45.220 because they're very normal. And I think the Kelseys are very conservative coded. They look 0.82

00:50:50.480 and seem conservative. But I don't think she I don't think. What's the what's Kylie Kylie?

00:50:58.020 I don't think she is conservative. Like, I don't know that she's progressive, but like

00:51:02.120 I saw that she just had Chelsea Handler. Yeah. And I think also they did make a statement,

00:51:06.880 I think, when the Harrison Butker thing happened. I think they were pretty clear they didn't agree

00:51:11.980 with what he was saying. Yeah. Which is dumb. Yeah. If you're going to make a statement about

00:51:17.780 it, that means you like really feel that way. So I just wonder if they are a psyop to get

00:51:26.080 the girlies back to the Democratic Party or to get just the normies back to the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:51:31.740 Yeah. I think they'd have to do the heavy lifting with the guys because, you know, the girls who 1.00

00:51:37.380 like Taylor Swift are already there. But yeah, it's like football frat bros that they need back for

00:51:43.200 sure. I don't know. Like, I think that there are a lot of people, a lot of women who like watch

00:51:50.020 call her daddy and who are not related bells. OK, but they vote Trump because they just they're just

00:51:59.520 more Republican or their boyfriends are and they just vote Trump. And I think those people have to

00:52:06.400 be. And it's like nerdy to have your pronouns now. And it's just like embarrassing to be associated with

00:52:12.280 that. And so I think that there's going to be a wing, a growing wing of the Democratic Party

00:52:17.240 that ignores the trans thing and is like just more normal. Cool Democrats. Yeah. Normal. Not a regular 0.79

00:52:26.840 Democrat. Cool Democrat. But thankfully, like the most Democrats can't can't not be insane. Like AOC, 0.87

00:52:34.740 I think she's running. Gavin Newsom, Pete Buttigieg. Those are all the people doing their podcast tours

00:52:40.560 right now. Yeah. What's with Pete Buttigieg coming across as cool with Andrew Schultz? Yeah. That's a

00:52:48.460 thing. Yeah. These people are going through a brand overhaul. And I feel like there's that, you know,

00:52:54.920 pro wrestler meme where it's like you've got a wrestler out here, but then you've got one like

00:53:00.160 sneaking up behind him. And it's like the meme is like the text would be on the like wrestler up here

00:53:07.100 who doesn't know this guy's behind him, like me having a good day. And then it's like back here,

00:53:12.940 my period. It's like sneaking up. You never know. OK, but that's what all these Democrats are. It's

00:53:19.480 like AOC, Pete Buttigieg, whatever. They're like, I'm going to be cool or Gavin Newsom. I'm going to be

00:53:25.760 cool. Run for the Democrat, you know, nomination. And then you've got like Richard Levine back here.

00:53:33.320 You've got like the man pretending to be a woman who is about to like ruin your campaign. That's 0.94

00:53:39.820 the problem with the Democrats. They cannot let that issue go. All right. Before we head out,

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 01, 2025

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