Trump just had the most successful weekend of his presidency, maybe of any presidency ever. Also, he is helping South African refugees resettle here in the United States. And surprise, surprise, Christian refugee ministries are very upset about it. We ve got all of this and so much more on today s episode of Relatable with your host, Ron Simmons.
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00:01:03.180Before we get into that conversation with my dad, I want to tell you our two new speakers for Share the Arrows, brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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00:01:36.240And so, of course, we had to have her again.
00:01:38.480And then adding to the motherhood conversation, we've got Hilary Morgan Ferrer.
00:01:44.420She is the author of the very popular Mama Bear Apologetics books.
00:01:49.620Many of you have read her books in your small group at your church.
00:01:53.520And for good reason, she is so good at equipping moms to be theologians,
00:01:59.620to be apologetics experts for their children, equipping children to confront really difficult questions and issues that go on in the world.
00:02:09.080We're also having Elisa Childers, Ginger Duggar Vuolo.
00:02:12.720We've got Shauna Holman, Taylor Dukes on a health panel.
00:02:15.900We've got Katie Faust and then leading us in worship as Francesca Battistelli.
00:20:28.220They're trying to keep the families together.
00:20:29.980It's not that they think this three-year-old poses a threat, but they don't want the three-year-old separated from the mom, which is it's better for them to be together in Mexico than to be separated.
00:20:38.760And so you've got a lot of people comparing this to Nazi Germany.
00:20:42.720And that's what I'm saying when I think people, some people are genuinely confused, but they're being manipulated by this.
00:20:48.640Because if you don't believe that ice has a right to deport people, then you don't believe we have a right to have a country.
00:20:54.240I mean, there's no such thing as citizenship if you can't get people out who are here illegally.
00:20:59.060And the Jewish people in Germany were German citizens.
00:21:03.220They were not invading that country like a lot of these illegal immigrants are.
00:21:09.500You know, the other thing that happened is that when in these countries like Venezuela, Nicaragua, a couple of more where where Biden put this rule in that said, hey, if you're if you're a citizen there and you want to come here, you can come.
00:21:24.160OK, because those are bad countries, which is true.
00:21:33.380OK, but unless you vet people and and Clinton administration didn't do that very well, either with all the people from Somalia, you know, which which happened, which is going on in Minnesota and all those other places.
00:21:45.360And so it's one thing to have noble ideas.
00:21:48.940But if you don't have the process to make sure the people coming in are the people that are good for the country, then it creates havoc.
00:21:55.720That's why you never judge a policy by its stated intentions.
00:21:59.140OK, I think this kind of reveals where a lot of the far left progressives actually are when it comes to their motives behind wanting illegal immigration.
00:22:59.020In 2022, there were over 300 attacks on white owned farms, resulting in 50 murders.
00:23:04.400Torture is common in these attacks with Afrikaans, their Bibles being left open on their dismembered bodies.
00:23:12.580There's actually this highway in South Africa with all of these crosses that are honoring all of the white farmers that have been murdered.
00:24:21.240I've been to South Africa a couple of times.
00:24:23.740And it's, you know, the population is about 90 to 95 percent black and about, you know, 5 percent white.
00:24:32.340So apartheid was awful, as we both would agree.
00:24:35.940However, what's happened since that time is the government in a lot of these countries, not only South Africa, the country, but next door neighboring countries like Zimbabwe and Tanzania, they have nationalized a lot of the land.
00:24:51.820So they've basically taken the land away from the farmers or they've been run off by violence, like you've said.
00:24:57.380And so they're, I mean, they are absolutely at risk.
00:25:02.240They do not live in a country where they can be safe, in my opinion.
00:25:06.780And so this is no different than people that are truly being brutalized in Venezuela or Nicaragua or whatever the others we're talking about.
00:25:16.560It's all because of the color of their skin, partly, but mostly because it's Donald Trump that's doing it or it's a Republican that's doing it.
00:25:24.880Yeah. The Episcopal Church, through its Episcopal Migration Ministries, terminated on on Monday, May 12th, terminated its 40 year long refugee resettlement program with the U.S.
00:25:38.340government due to, quote, moral objections to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa.
00:25:44.560The church's decision stemmed from its commitment to racial justice and its historical ties to the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, which opposed apartheid.
00:25:54.880So this speaks to the ideology that BLM has here because something bad happened to some black people a long time ago.
00:26:04.360The people who are alive today, the white people alive today, who might not even be related to the white people who own slaves, they have to pay the price for it through reparations, through unequal justice system, different kinds of sentencing that disproportionately hurts white people and rewards black people based on the color of their skin.
00:26:25.160And that's the same thing that is happening in South Africa.
00:26:30.720It never leads to liberation or equality or justice.
00:26:34.640It leads to chaos and it leads to injustice and murder.
00:26:38.620And this supposedly Christian institution is saying we can't offer the same compassion to these people because they're white and something bad happened in South Africa decades ago.
00:28:10.340What is what is Holland doing about this?
00:28:12.860It is also the belief that Western countries or people who even come from Western countries, that they need to pay the price for colonialism.
00:28:23.980Today, like this, you know, Episcopalian organization, the president said, we can't in good conscience facilitate the resettlement of those whose communities upheld apartheid.
00:28:33.840So these people directly did not uphold apartheid.
00:28:36.880He's not even saying that. He's not even trying to say that.
00:28:38.020He doesn't even know if their ancestors did, but someone who had the color of their skin decades ago might have participated in that.
00:29:50.940So I have some bad news and then some good news.
00:29:54.400Some bad news is that by the time this show ends, another family farm in the United States will shut down.
00:30:01.520This is happening every day across this country because it is so difficult now for homegrown meat to compete against the cheaper options that are being imported from abroad.
00:30:16.380But the farming and ranching industry in the United States is the backbone of American society for so many reasons.
00:30:24.380If you want to be a part of revitalizing this industry, making sure that these family farms that really care about their products, that care about their livestock, that care about their meat, if you want to make sure that they can remain open now and generations to come, you should be getting your meat at Good Ranchers.
00:30:57.840Let's see, last night I had my better than organic chicken that I wrapped in some of our Good Ranchers bacon, had some cheddar on top of that.
00:32:13.980I just learned today at 44 years old that the Republicans are going to be the ones to save women.
00:32:20.920The same Republicans that have been saved for women's reproductive acts.
00:32:25.520Or the same Republicans that have stood for the Equal Rights Act, which would hopefully get women to equal pay.
00:32:32.260Or the same Republicans that just this Congress voted for the SAVE Act, which we know would disenfranchise women from even being able to vote.
00:32:40.060But let me tell you, they are our saviors.
00:32:42.600And so I am so happy to be here today because otherwise I would not have an idea that I had a savior in the Republicans.
00:32:49.940Okay, so if anyone didn't detect that, it's sarcasm.
00:32:56.580Well, yeah, it's not always idiotic sarcasm.
00:33:00.740You know, first of all, she's probably the most racist person in the entire legislature.
00:33:06.440If not, she's in the top five for sure.
00:33:08.580And she's never going to get anything done.
00:33:09.980She didn't get anything done in the Texas House.
00:33:12.500She's not going to get anything done in the U.S. Congress.
00:33:14.280But if you think about what she just said, okay, now she talks about reproductive rights, but yet she's alive.
00:33:22.560I bet she's thankful her mom didn't abort her, right?
00:35:11.320The Republicans released some details Sunday, May 11th.
00:35:14.920It's referred to as Trump's big, beautiful bill.
00:35:17.540Includes over $4 trillion in tax cuts and $1.5 trillion in spending reductions over a decade, according to Bloomberg.
00:35:22.920Yeah, well, my good friend in Congress that just got up there is on the Energy and Commerce Committee, which most of this goes through.
00:35:32.340So it's a big part of this goes through there.
00:35:35.180And in fact, one of the parts that's in there that's controversial is the defunding of Planned Parenthood, which I don't know if that's going to make it all the way through or not.
00:35:43.280But I think we're getting to the end of the road on this.
00:35:46.640Now, what's happening is, and you're going to hear people talk about this, I want your audience to understand, a lot of the spending that's going on now is spending that was approved by Biden in the last Congress, okay?
00:35:59.160So we don't have the ability to control that.
00:36:04.960Until this bill passes and we eliminate some of those things, that's why the deficit continues to grow, all right?
00:36:12.280Is a lot of this program that was under the so-called Inflation Reduction Act and all that, a bunch of spending that we can't cut off until we get this bill passed.
00:36:24.780And also what's not included in there, although I think Trump is trying to get them to put it in there, is the money that we're getting from the tariffs is to have the scoring people to make sure that they include that as well.
00:36:39.360And I think we're getting through to the end of that.
00:36:41.500I absolutely think it's going to pass the House, and then the Senate will be able to pass it with only 51 votes because this is called budget reconciliation.
00:36:52.060I think the goal is for the House to vote on that this month in May.
00:36:56.920Whether that gets pushed a few days or not, I don't know, but that would be the goal to get it.
00:37:01.560Because they want to have this passed when they go back home for their summer recess later in the summer to be able to talk to their folks about.
00:37:09.500Yeah, Mike Johnson, Speaker Mike Johnson said he wants this done by Memorial Day, which I'm sure that they're all hoping for.
00:37:17.400So the Congressional Budget Office, they are pointing out that 8.6 million people may no longer have Medicaid coverage by 2034 if this whole proposal passes.
00:37:32.220Well, first of all, I think that it might be that there are some people that are on Medicaid that shouldn't be on Medicaid.
00:37:39.320So there may be some of that, that there are loopholes in all of the entitlement bills that allows people that weren't intended to be receiving benefits receive benefits.
00:37:52.660Some of that, though, is going to be determined by the states because Medicaid is essentially run by each state and every state does it differently.
00:38:01.840And so what I believe they're probably saying is that, well, if if we try to reduce our funding for Medicare, that means states are going to have to cut people off the rolls.
00:38:24.080And listen, folks, it will not be everything you want or everything I want, but it will be much better than what we've had.
00:38:32.340OK, that's true of everything that just about.
00:38:36.160OK, let us talk about let's go to the state level, state legislature.
00:38:40.420I had a conversation yesterday about what's going on in the Texas legislature when it comes to abortion.
00:38:47.060And you've got some people who are upset that it seems like some in the Texas legislature don't want to take up a bill, have a bill move forward that would allow for equal protection of babies inside the womb.
00:39:03.860And what is meant by that is having the woman have legal responsibility or legal accountability for the action that she has knowingly taken.
00:39:13.520And we're not getting into a debate about that philosophically today because I've done that and we'll link past episodes and you can kind of hear the back and forth on that.
00:39:21.860But when it comes to this kind of thing, a bill that would punish women for knowingly have abortions, having abortions that we know could be very unpopular, like how does this kind of thing work?
00:39:34.800Like, how does a bill like this get passed?
00:39:37.000Well, let me let me remind people of what Texas has done.
00:39:41.560OK, 2013, my first year in the legislature, we had a 20 hour public hearing, 20 hours.
00:39:48.240And I'll just tell you, all our pro-life friends, the majority of the witnesses, the public witnesses were against the bill.
00:40:51.480And then also that year, which people didn't realize, is they passed something called a trigger bill, which was super smart.
00:41:01.040And a lot of states have followed that, that said if Roe v. Wade was ever overturned, then this bill automatically becomes effective and that no abortions in Texas.
00:41:12.680Texas has been the leader in these issues from day one.
00:41:16.740Now, there's a lot of states that do just as well and maybe even better in some ways.
00:41:21.060But what what happens is, is that any legislator can file a bill and there is a bill filed relating to that.
00:41:30.480What is that that's called equal protection.
00:41:32.560Now, what it would have done is if a lady in Texas has an abortion and she's found out in whatever way she would be subject to the same penalties that someone that had, you know,
00:41:44.700that had committed murder against someone who was already born that in Texas, that could be up to the death penalty, up to including the death penalty.
00:41:54.240And so this bill bills were filed to do that.
00:41:57.360But the challenge is, is that if you're the author of the bill and you really want your bill to pass, you've got to go work that bill and you've got to have 76 other people in the House and at least 16 in the Senate to say yes.
00:42:09.540And if you don't have that, the bill's not going to pass.
00:42:14.480And so in this particular situation, this bill did not even have the votes in the committee that it was assigned to.
00:42:23.260I talked to the chairman of that committee this morning.
00:42:25.560He's a good friend of mine, John Smithy.
00:42:27.940He's been in the House for a long time from Amarillo, as pro-life, as conservative as you would want somebody to be.
00:42:33.480But he said, Ron, we didn't have the votes and we were getting physical threats against us on both from both sides, from the pro-life people and pro-abortion people.
00:42:44.560Yeah, we were getting physical threats.
00:42:46.180Our committee members, we had to call DPS in and our offices to protect us.
00:42:51.280And so I'll just tell you folks out there, that is no way to get your legislation passed.
00:42:56.640If you're going to threaten a legislator, all I can tell you is that what's going to happen is they're going to, you know, smile to your face and then behind your back, they're going to work against what you want because people don't like to be threatened.
00:43:08.160And obviously no one that I know in the pro-life fight would ever do that, whether they're an abolitionist or they say middle of the road pro-life or whatever.
00:43:24.780And so that's the reason this particular bill didn't go through.
00:43:28.720Also, Lieutenant Governor Patrick, who's on the Senate side, has said we're not going to take up a bill that's going to punish women that have an abortion.
00:43:39.500Now, you and I might disagree with that.
00:43:41.640There's got to be some balance in here because we believe the unborn is a human being.
00:43:47.760And so they need protection, too, and the legislature has given them a lot of protection, but they haven't been willing to cross that threshold yet.
00:43:58.020I mean, when you're making public policy in a political environment, it's very, very difficult.
00:44:02.560It's not as black and white as we want it to be.
00:44:05.980And, you know, the leader in the House is very conservative.
00:44:09.160Yeah, I was going to ask about the speaker because I've heard some, you know, criticism about him and, you know, his conservative bona fides.
00:44:17.160So what do you think about our current speaker?
00:44:18.920Well, Dustin Burroughs came into the House the session after I did.
00:45:07.640What's happened is the people that didn't get who they wanted for Speaker this time, who's actually, if you look at kind of all the scoring systems, he's much less conservative, Mr. Cook was, than Speaker Burroughs is.
00:45:48.920And you can't, you really can't ever please anyone.
00:45:51.800You make as many friends as you can because you want to get things done.
00:45:55.360But you also have to know you're never going to be friends with everyone because some people don't want to be your friend.
00:45:59.700Yeah, and it's a business made up of people.
00:46:03.060So if you're a legislator and I'm a legislator and you've been trashing me the whole time for something that you don't like about one of the things that I'm doing.
00:46:11.440Now, not talking to me privately, but I'm talking about publicly.
00:46:14.040And then you come to me and want me to do something for you.
00:46:17.580It's going to be very, very hard for me to say yes to that.
00:46:20.640Now, maybe I should, but, you know, we're human.
00:46:36.680It is hard to, even if you agree with what someone says, but that person did something to you, it's hard to, you know, publicly, like, praise them.
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00:48:05.460Okay, if someone doesn't like what their legislator is doing, what their legislature is doing in any state, what is the most effective way to communicate with their lawmakers?
00:48:21.280You know, it's interesting, I had an email over the weekend from a lady in Connecticut who is concerned about Connecticut legislators trying to regulate homeschool because of an incident that happened years ago.
00:48:35.480And she was telling me about, you know, what do we do, you know, that type of thing, because he's really afraid.
00:48:41.020And so what my advice to her was the same advice I give today, and that is you should contact your legislator, but you have to do that with respect.
00:48:51.340Now, the best way to do that is go down and visit with them.
00:48:53.680If you go to their office, they will see you.
00:48:58.980But if you're going to go in there and threaten them, or you're going to get on social media and threaten and say, we're going to vote you out.
00:50:03.160Is it, is there any point to a Republican voter complaining to or talking with a Democrat legislator who they know is not going to be pro-life and is not going to agree with them?
00:50:18.820Is there any point to trying to sway them at all?
00:50:22.020I think the point, and that's a really good question, because the reason you do that is so you can understand their argument.
00:50:28.600You don't go to them to try to say, I want you to believe me.
00:50:36.560You go to that person to say, explain to me how you've come to this position.
00:50:41.140You and I are obviously at different positions.
00:51:09.040So if a Democrat came to you when you are a Republican legislator, that's how you would have wanted them to approach you.
00:51:15.220Because you would have never agreed with them if they said, hey, we want you to be against this 20-week bill or we want boys and girls' bathrooms.
00:51:23.400You never would have been persuaded by them.
00:51:25.440But maybe you would have appreciated them making the effort.
00:51:28.640Like if she would have said, let's say a lady came to me that was a Democrat legislature or whatever, and they came and talked to me or a constituent or whatever, and she had had a very traumatic pregnancy experience, whatever that was, rape, whatever.
00:52:04.120Well, the lesson from the little red wagon on this one is that it's always make sure that you ask the next uncomfortable question.
00:52:18.260And that doesn't mean that you demand, but you should ask that question that maybe is going to make you uncomfortable in front of your legislator or whomever it is, but you have to figure out how to do it in the right way with respect and what have you.
00:52:33.640So that, but don't stop because you're afraid.
00:52:36.720Most people stop short of what they really want to know because they're afraid to ask the question and how the response might be.
00:52:43.140Remember, you can never control somebody else's response.
00:52:45.600You can only control the way in which you conduct yourself, but the only way to get to the other side of things is you have to get out of that comfort zone into an uncomfortable area.
00:52:56.760And sometimes the uncomfortable question is something you're asking yourself.
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00:54:47.800Hope you guys enjoyed that conversation.
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