Ep 1199 | The Georgia Mom on Life Support: What’s Really Happening
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In this episode of Relatable Happy Tuesday, we will be discussing the story of the pro-life mom who is being kept on life support as the baby in her womb grows. We will also be analyzing the Colorado terror attack, as well as some troubling news coming out of the Trump administration about the treatment of conservative christians. Also, be on the lookout for an explosive investigation that we have been working on for weeks about an organization called The Innocence Project. That episode will be out tomorrow!
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adriana smith is a mother who is being kept on life support as the baby in her womb grows you
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are hearing a lot of myths and disinformation about this story we are going to debunk those
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myths today and give you the pro-life perspective we will also be analyzing the colorado terror
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attack as well as some troubling news coming out of the trump administration about the treatment
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of conservative christians also tomorrow be on the lookout for an explosive investigation that we
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have been working on for many weeks about an organization called the innocence project that
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episode will be out tomorrow make sure that you stay tuned this episode is brought to you by our
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keksi.com code ally15 hey guys welcome to relatable happy tuesday hope everyone is having a wonderful
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week so far uh we had a lot of theology in yesterday's episode so i encourage you to go
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back and watch that especially as we enter what some people call pride month but what i call no a
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covenant month if you need to be reminded of the truth of biblical marriage and what it actually
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means and why it matters to our christian theology and to our worldview and yes even to our politics and
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please go back and watch or listen to yesterday's episode today we will be getting into news stories
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a lot of you have been asking me to comment on the story of the georgia mom who is on life support who
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is pregnant and so we will be debunking a lot of the narratives that you have seen and giving my best
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attempt at a pro-life pro-imago day analysis of that situation but first we need to talk about the
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colorado terror attack that tragically happened over the weekend on sunday june 1st in boulder
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colorado definitely a progressive stronghold there mohammed sabri solomon a 45 year old egyptian
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national committed a violent attack on a pro-israel group advocating for the release of israeli hostages
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the fbi is investigating the incident as a targeted terror attack those are the exact words that the fbi used
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solomon who was illegally in the united states after overstaying his visa set eight people on fire
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with 12 total injured this seems to be a pattern with the people who are pro-hamas and anti-israel
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no matter what side of the issue that you're on i think that we can all agree that any kind of
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middle eastern conflict has many layers and is very complex and i have given my general position
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on israel versus palestine many times um and have talked about this with guests who are really
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experts on this many times but also we realize as christians that we want no innocent people to die
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we care about the children we care about the lives lost anywhere no matter if it's in israel or if it's
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in gaza but a pattern that you see over and over again is that those that are pro-hamas and anti-israel
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in the united states seem to have a greater tendency towards extremism and violence i just haven't seen
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this kind of radicalism and terrorism and violence coming from the jewish people here in the united
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states or from the most ardent pro-israel zionists in the united states there have been lots of
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demonstrations lots of protests by the pro-palestinian free palestine people here in the united states
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and i have yet to see any jewish instigated terrorism against those people but i have seen
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over and over again for example jewish students on their campus being run into the library where they
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have to take refuge from the radical pro-palestine demonstrators there and so there just seems to be
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a pattern certainly this pattern is is very prevalent within progressivism in general because
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when politics is your god or when anything other than the god of scripture is your god you are going
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to be lost and your moral compass is going to be off and you are more easily radicalized in an extremely
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violent way and so that is surely what happened here and plus islam in general is just like
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it's a violent religion that doesn't mean that everyone who is muslim is going to commit
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violence but there is a reason why almost every single terrorist regime in the world is islamic
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that's not like oh that's just a coincidence i don't know how that happened it is the ideology
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that drives them it is inherently violent so again lots of patterns here lots of commonalities
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that we should just be able to call out no matter what you think about the specific israel gaza conflict
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going on right now so solomon allegedly used a makeshift flamethrower made from a garden sprayer
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filled with gasoline and through molotov cocktails while shouting free palestine and in zionist why is it
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that with progressives freedom and liberation always means terrible violence this was during the
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pro israel event on pearl street in boulder and here the guy is after the attack saw one
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okay so i know he might look just like your standard white guy from here but he's not he might have kind
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of like light skin uh but he's not as i said he's an egyptian national he apparently is muslim he is fighting
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on behalf of the islamic cause and we know that radical muslims around the world it's not just that they
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believe that palestine is their land it's not that they believe that there is an apartheid going on it's not
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that they believe that the palestinians are being oppressed by israel if they really cared about muslim
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oppression then they would stop oppressing muslims muslims are most oppressed by other muslims and muslims that are
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in charge muslim authorities much more than they are oppressed by israel or any jew but muslim ideology again
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it has within it intertwined within it a hatred for the jewish people also a hatred for christians
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but really there seems to be a more uh a passionate hatred toward the jews in much of muslim ideology
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and so that is part of what's going on here court documents show that he told the fbi after his
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arrest that he had been planning the attack for a year huh like just i guess was missed the fbi didn't
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see him didn't know as for his motive he said he wanted to kill all zionist people and wish they were
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all dead huh he also said that he would do it again let's talk about the victims because their
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lives really matter eight victims aged 52 to 88 were hospitalized for burns with one in critical
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condition four victims received minor injuries they endured minor injuries no deaths were reported
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as of this morning tuesday june 3rd one victim was an 88 year old holocaust survivor
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according to rabbi israel wilhelm the shabad director at the university of colorado boulder her name has
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not yet been identified um and obviously it's tragic when any person is victimized but when you're
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talking about someone who survived the holocaust who saw her relatives survive the holocaust still
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this many decades later and during that kind of violent jew hate it's really sad the pro-israel group
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called run for their lives is a grassroots organization which was holding a weekly gathering
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to call for the release of israeli hostages held by hamas like let us not forget how this conflict
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started that hamas decided that they were going to paraglide into a music festival and kill and
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torment and kidnap and rape innocent israelis okay that's how this started and then they took hostages
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including babies over to their side and starved and killed them okay and so when we're talking about
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what israel has done and the violence they have inflicted i say this as someone who wants no child
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to die who wants no baby to die no innocent person to die but when we look at what israel is doing they
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are doing this in response to what happened on october 7th all right let us not forget that let us not
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forget that there are still hostages being held by hamas and the majority of the palestinians actually
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solomon faces a federal hate crime charge 16 state counts of attempted first degree murder additional charges
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for using incendiary devices with potential penalties of life in prison uh fbi deputy director dan
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bongino described the attack as quote ideologically motivated violence with ongoing investigations to confirm
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motives and connections boulder police chief steven red for redfarn uh was hesitant at first to call
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the event a terrorist attack at first they were saying oh we don't know the motive behind it that's
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what they always do the fbi is already calling it a targeted terror attack uh would you also refer to
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it as a terror attack and this was a journalist asking him a question at a press conference and he said
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we're not going to call it a terrorist attack at this point again it's too early to speculate motive i mean
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the guy literally said i hate zionists and i wish they were dead and by the way i'll also do this
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again and the police are like no idea no idea maybe he was just having a bad day redfarn also said i
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cannot confirm right now that this was targeted at a specific group of people okay redfarn was promoted
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to the position of boulder police chief in september 2024 after serving as deputy chief since 2021 pledging to
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quote make policing equitable and effective in its core mission and the translation we learned in 2020
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means that you are going to arrest fewer immigrants fewer hispanic people fewer black people fewer people
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who call themselves transgender etc those that you might call a progressive might call oppressed or
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marginalized and try to arrest more white people that's what equitable means being soft on crime
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redfarn is also openly gay and married to a man the department unveiled a pride badge in june of
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2024 because that's what's important when you are enforcing the law and the reason why that's relevant
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is because it is possible that this person is just a diversity hire obviously this police department
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is ideologically motivated it doesn't surprise me that this person would want to say that this illegal
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alien that this person who is pro free palestine that oh we just don't know the motive this is probably
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just a one-off uh fbi deputy director dan bagino explained on x why the fbi immediately said that
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they were investigating the attack as terrorism before the local police did when the evidence passed to
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our fbi leadership team from an active crime scene includes clearly ideologically motivated statements
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video multiple witness accounts we will investigate those incidents as targeted acts of terror if the
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investigation turns a different direction despite the evidence we can make adjustments we are not the
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federal bureau of word games solomon was granted work authorization in the united states in march 2023
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by the biden administration despite his expired visa status so again being soft on crime being soft on
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immigration has consequences policy has consequences whom we elect has consequences when you elect people
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that are soft on crime who are pro open borders who think that it's actually positive for our country
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to allow people to stay here who should never be here in the first place who are radical islamists
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and who are here illegally then you will pay the consequences of that biden will never pay the consequences
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of that those who worked for him who are part of the elite class and who live in gated communities
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and who pay extra not to have to live next to riffraff they will never pay the consequences of that but
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regular working people will have to pay the consequences of the bad and irresponsible virtue signaling policy
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decisions that politicians make policy matters because politics matter no politics matter because policy
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matters because people matter politics affects policy policy affects people and people matter illegal aliens
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have to go they all have to go back it doesn't matter if they are now some kind of radical extremist like
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this doesn't matter if they've committed a violent crime they have no right to be here and if we are a
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country then we have to have borders if we are if we don't have borders then we're not a country then you are
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not a citizen then no one has rights that can be afforded especially to citizens and there's no
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right of our government or law enforcement to be able to protect us and no responsibility either they
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all have to go back that is a righteous decision that is a good decision if you're confused about that
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please just read my immigration chapter in toxic empathy we go through all of the stories the competing
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data the competing anecdotes that is probably the chapter that people need to read the most right
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now because you've got a lot of people who are using that toxic empathy to emotionally manipulate
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you into believing that the biblical position is to believe that a country shouldn't have borders
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god is a god of order he places in a garden not in a jungle he does not want chaos for people because
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we flourish when order exists steven miller seems to understand this a lot especially when it comes to
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immigration he says a terror attack was committed in boulder colorado by an illegal alien he was
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granted a tourist visa by the biden administration and then he illegally overstayed that visa in response
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the biden administration gave him a work permit suicidal migration must be fully reversed he's
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absolutely right suicidal migration is the result of toxic empathy scott jennings who is kind of like
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the republican guy on cnn said what more do we need to see before we acknowledge this free
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palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization we are in a fight for the
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future of western civilization and we need to come to grips with it and fast um jake tapper on cnn he
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kind of started rambling about like right wing antisemitism in response to the boulder colorado
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terror attack which had nothing to do with right wing antisemitism um antisemitism obviously is a big
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problem on the left he said it's also a big problem on the right i want to make clear i'm not doing
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whataboutism but it's actually like exactly what you are doing here's that too it is also a problem on
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the right uh i mean in addition to the tree of life uh synagogue killing uh in pittsburgh um which is
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obviously uh homicidal um there's been reporting recently that the pentagon press secretary kingsley
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wilson uh has a history of social media posts pushing anti-semitic tropes extremist theories um
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the problem right now that we're seeing in terms of violence is on the left and i want to make it
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clear i'm not what about is i'm not doing what about ism okay but like that's what you did you might
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not have said the words what about but you're a smart guy jake tapper that's exactly what you were
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doing right there um msnbc contributor tab winter said there's an individual who is taken into custody
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he's a white male okay so three there's an individual that's taken into custody uh he's a
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white male whether or not that's the person that police ultimately arrested and will ultimately charge
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in this crime a bit of a question at this time but that's just what we've seen so far
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okay to be fair the guy did look like a white male i will say that like he did look like that
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but i would be surprised if msnbc ever corrected their reporting and said that he's an illegal alien
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and you will see people say well it's irrelevant because people who are citizens commit these kind
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of crimes all the time it's not irrelevant because every crime that is committed by an illegal alien
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is preventable unlike crimes that are committed by citizens okay and people who say well citizens
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actually commit more crimes than illegal aliens you don't know that i don't know that no one knows
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that if they are by definition undocumented then there's really no way to know how many of them
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are committing crimes and by the way every single one of them is a criminal because it is a crime
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to cross the border illegally there was this awful story out of texas where at lake travis this
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young woman who was about to enter the air force she was run over while she was kayaking
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by an illegal alien from venezuela two illegal aliens who were on a seadoo ran into her saw that they ran
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into her she died and they sped away and thankfully they were arrested they're going to be deported and
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all of that but that woman would be alive if we had had administrations that were enforcing immigration
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policy and we're protecting our border just because we have criminals we have murderers that are citizens
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doesn't mean we need to add to the crimes committed by citizens by importing a bunch of new people that will
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also commit crimes every crime that is committed by an illegal alien is preventable unfortunately there are a lot
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of people on tiktok who are celebrating this we don't know who these people are there's always going to be crazy
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people on either side of an issue or either side of the political aisle who are anonymous online saying
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crazy things but i think it's worth noting that you do see people saying not all heroes uh wear capes
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and the survivor of the holocaust this person is referencing thought he escaped after all of these
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years um congratulations someone said we failed to wipe them out is saul's time for attacking us
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coming from the sea what a hero someone says someone says hero with the palestinian flag give this man a
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nobel prize and so it's just really unfortunate that the people who say that they are anti-oppression
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they're anti-violence they just care so much about the children in gaza it's really not about that for
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a lot of people not saying everyone but for a lot of people on that side they really just don't like
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jews and they really just don't like israel and we just need to understand that we need to be clear
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okay this georgia mom who is on life support this story has been circulating for several weeks i have
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talked about it a little bit on instagram but i'm glad that i waited to fully talk about it on the show
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because there are so many different layers and details to this story that have been revealed and i
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wanted to make sure that i got it right this is the story of the woman who is on life support and
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who has a baby that is growing inside her womb and because of georgia law the the doctors cannot take
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her off of life support and they are actually going to deliver this child and of course you've got pro
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choicers pro abortion advocates saying this is so awful this is using this woman as a lifeless
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incubator and they should have just you know let her off life support let the baby die you've even
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got some of her family members it seems saying oh we should have a choice and you've got a lot of
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pro-life and pro choicers pro-abortionists going back and forth but you've got some people on the
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pro-life side saying okay this is not as clear cut as some pro-lifers are making it out to be and i have
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said of course we should give this baby a chance at life and i actually thought this whole situation was
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being made possible by georgia pro-life law anti-abortion law i was wrong about that it
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actually has nothing to do with the georgia abortion law and that's exactly what the left
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wants you to think what pro-abortionists want you to think that this is because of some draconian
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archaic pro-life law in georgia and that this has to do with the overturning of roe v weight no that's
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not what this is about at all this is actually because of a law that was passed a while ago that was
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supported by a lot of progressives at the time so let's get into it if you don't know what i'm
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talking about i'll back up and give you the details of this story adriana smith is a 30 year old
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nurse and mother from atlanta georgia she was declared brain dead on february 19th 2025
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after suffering severe blood clots to her brain tragic situation which caused irreversible neurological
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damage at the time smith was approximately nine weeks pregnant with her second child emory university
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hospital where smith is being treated has decided to maintain her life to um to preserve her life
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to keep her on life support to allow the baby to develop until it reaches viability he reaches
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viability i'm pretty sure it's a baby boy projected to be around 32 weeks of gestation based on medical
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assessments a c-section um based on medical assessments a c-section is scheduled for august of
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2025 smith's family including her mother april claims that they were informed by doctors that
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george's abortion law required maintaining life support stripping them of medical decision making
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rights and they described the situation as emotionally torturous and financially burdensome
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in an interview with 11 alive published may 19th newkirk said that they had named this new baby boy
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chance and that he is doing better than the last time i met with the doctors he has his
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toes arms limbs everything is forming we're just hoping he makes it so there's been some conflicting
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stories on the one hand we hear that adriana's mom april has told reporters i'm angry that we didn't
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get a choice we want to be able to have a choice whether or not we can end this pregnancy and take her
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off life support but at the same time we also see these reports of april saying no like we want our baby
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boy to be able to live i want my grandchild to be okay and it could be that she has expressed both of
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these sentiments uh new kirk april did express frustration about not having to say but saying
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we didn't have a choice or say about it we want the baby that's a part of my daughter but the decision
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should have been left to us not the state the family started to go fund me and they've raised a lot
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of money adriana also has a seven-year-old son um and uh other family that is very sad understandably
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and broken over this situation right now the baby is about 24 weeks gestation according to doctors
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has shown signs of potential health complications including fluid accumulation on the brain of course
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it makes sense because a baby's health does correspond to the health of his mother women
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aren't just incubators and this is obviously going to present potential complications for this child
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adriana's family is claiming that emory health care the hospital is maintaining life support due to
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george's abortion law which is known as the life act that prohibits abortions after a fetal heartbeat is
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detected typically around six weeks gestation with limited exceptions georgia attorney general chris
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carr's office released a statement on may 19th clarifying that the hospital is not required by this
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pro-life law by the life law to maintain life support for a brain dead patient to keep her child alive
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removing life support is not in action with the purpose of terminating a pregnancy and remember when we
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were talking about all of the propaganda about the dobbs decision especially before the last election
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we went through the state legislation that prevents abortions and we looked at the fact that these laws
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very specifically define what counts as an illegal abortion it's not removing an ectopic pregnancy
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it is not a dnc after a woman miscarries her baby it is the purposeful ending of a child's life
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and so the george attorney general is saying no this this is not prohibited to take her off
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life support is not prohibited under our pro-life law uh that is not the law that's at play here and
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thankfully our friends at live action have fact-checked this and have told us what is actually uh in play
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here so the title of this article is fact check is a pro-life law forcing a brain dead pregnant woman to stay
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so this is according to life action george's life act defines abortion as quote the act of using
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prescribing or administering any instrument substance device or other means with the purpose to terminate
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a pregnancy with knowledge determination will with reasonable likelihood cause the death of an unborn
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child so that very clear and specific definition is right there for the doctors at the hospital for
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anyone in georgia for any activist in the world to read on their own so anyone who says it's the
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fault of the pro-life law that these doctors are allowing women to die or allowing women to stay on
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life support to keep their child alive it's not the law's fault it might be the lawyer's fault it might
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might be the hospital administration's fault it might be the doctor's fault it might be you
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activist fault but it is not actually the law's fault if you have a specific suggestion for what should
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be added to the law i think you can make that suggestion i've seen many pro-lifers doing that
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because we want clarity we don't want women to die we know that the life of the mother is just as
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important as the life of the child there's only one side that wants a person to die in this whole
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thing and it's the pro-abortion side removing smith this woman from life supports his live action does
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not fit the life acts definition of abortion an act done with the purpose of terminating a woman's
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pregnancy to cause the pre-born child's death however there is a law that does apply georgia's
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law regarding life support the georgia advanced directive for health care act that has been in
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effect since 2007 15 years prior to georgia's life act that is what is more likely at play here
00:31:22.800
so georgia code 31 32 9 from 2007 states the doctors can't withdraw life support from pregnant
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patients and last both one the fetus is not viable and two the patient had an advanced directive
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explicitly stating she wanted withdrawal of life uh sustaining measures so here's what it says prior
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to effecting a withholding or withdrawal of life sustaining measures or the withholding or withdrawal
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of the provision of nourishment or hydration from a declarant pursuant to the declarant directions
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in an advanced directive for health care the attending physician okay so this is a lot of legal
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and medical language i basically already summarized that uh in this case says live action when smith was
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first put on life support her baby was not old enough to have been able to survive a premature birth
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but this baby is now 21 weeks and babies born at this gestational age have survived in some cases with
00:32:20.300
medical intervention his chances of survival will increase to 95 percent if he is allowed to remain
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in the womb until 32 weeks my question is when the law says when this law that again was enacted in 2007
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with even support of georgia democrats at the time when it says if the fetus is not viable then you can
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withdraw life sustaining support from this woman from this patient what exactly does viability mean
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because typically in the medical world viability means about 24 weeks gestation even though there are
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babies who are born and survive uh before that even 21 weeks i think the youngest is 19 weeks typically
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it's 24 weeks gestation is the gestational age of viability that a lot of doctors estimate um and so
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if that is the case that i'm not really sure why these doctors felt that they had to keep her on life
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support when she was only nine weeks pregnant does viability at that point mean that the baby doesn't
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have any known fetal fatal anomalies i'm just not totally sure what law is being referenced what legal
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uh specifications are being referenced by these doctors when they say that she has to be kept alive also
00:33:41.180
maybe she had some directive that we don't know about but here is how npr and other left-wing media
00:33:49.440
outlets are portraying this this is probably how you've seen it on instagram npr a brain dead woman's
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pregnancy raises questions about georgia's abortion law the guardian fetus of brain dead georgia woman
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kept alive due to abortion ban is growing says family okay usa today a brain dead pregnant georgia
00:34:10.920
woman is a horror story it's republicans fault fox 5 atlanta lawmakers clash over care of pregnant
00:34:17.040
brain dead georgia woman um and then they go on to again blame the pro-life law ex-users are outraged
00:34:27.260
we've got someone who says adriana smith is brain dead her family can't say goodbye because the state
00:34:34.040
demands her corpse remain alive for a fetus by the way there are a lot of medical questions and a lot of
00:34:39.800
debate in the medical community about brain dead and what that actually means is that even a medically
00:34:46.100
accurate term you've got other pro-aborts saying georgia's keeping a brain dead woman alive without
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giving her family say so because she's pregnant and on and on you've probably seen a lot of people say
00:34:59.180
that this is like the handmaid's tale that she's just being used as some kind of objectified
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incubator and in a way like her womb is incubating this child she is incubating this growing baby but
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this baby is a human being this baby is alive this baby is made in the image of god and while we
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absolutely mourn this situation we want this woman to be alive we are also thankful for the technology
00:35:30.000
that allows this baby not to die now not everyone on the pro-life side sees it that way and i would
00:35:38.020
never question the sincerity of the pro-life stance of some of the people who disagree with me on the
00:35:45.020
ethics of this like dr abby johnson whom we've had on before she says this she says i know i'm the odd
00:35:52.200
man out in this georgia situation where a woman is being essentially used as an incubator to keep a
00:35:56.720
child alive she was pronounced brain dead when her unborn child was nine weeks along she is being
00:36:01.500
kept artificially alive for now over 11 weeks in order to continue the pregnancy she says i have a
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huge ethical problem with this death is natural keeping people alive by dehumanizing the mother
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into the form of an incubator is in my opinion unethical and dehumanizing women are made to have
00:36:18.640
babies are not made to have babies even if they are dead obviously she knows that women are made to
00:36:24.900
have babies in general but she's saying when they're dead she said natural death is okay life
00:36:29.540
and death are two places in medicine where we've just gone too far we've got charlie kirk who says
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a woman in georgia is being kept on life support so that the child she is carrying can come to term and
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be born i was asked about this case while in britain apparently people thousands of miles away are
00:36:44.060
scandalized this is happening i'll admit charlie says that i'm completely baffled as to what the
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controversy is here literally none of the arguments typically offered by pro-abortion advocates apply here
00:36:54.160
there's no threat to the mother's life or health there is no threat to her personal autonomy there
00:36:59.140
is no threat to her of any kind it is literally impossible to harm her the only person facing any
00:37:04.080
kind of potential harm is her unborn child in one situation two people definitely die in the other
00:37:09.080
situation a child may be able to live saving lives is a good thing this is only controversial if you
00:37:17.160
actually view killing unborn children as a good thing and want more dead children for its own sake so
00:37:22.860
i am on that side that is where i am that if we have the opportunity to preserve one life to save
00:37:29.660
the innocent life of this child then we should that's not true in every situation uh where the
00:37:37.000
mother who is pregnant dies but in this case there's an opportunity to save this child and i would think
00:37:43.060
that her family would want this that the father of this child would want this and that the mother would
00:37:48.520
want this yes i would absolutely sacrifice my body so that my child could live and so that is my
00:37:56.260
perspective um my perspective on this situation and so again a lot of propaganda from the pro-abortion
00:38:03.720
side who simply just believes that unborn babies aren't real people and shouldn't have a right to life
00:38:09.320
so you shouldn't be listening to them at all about anything when it comes to this all right one more
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story to cover today and this has to do with something going on reportedly in the trump
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administration that is very troubling to me as a christian so we'll get into that in just a second
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this story is about a man named floyd brown who started the outlet the western journal he is a
00:39:52.320
conservative commentator and author he was recently according to him fired from his position of vice
00:39:59.000
president of development at the kennedy center for performing arts so this is a performing arts center
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that is partially funded by the taxpayer it's in washington dc it features theater dance musical
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performances as well as educational and outreach programs he says that he was fired on may 28th
00:40:18.340
after being contacted by cnn asking for his comments regarding past statements that he has made about the
00:40:25.460
quote homosexual influence in the gop he says that he was fired by rick grinnell the current interim
00:40:33.320
president of the kennedy center who is openly gay he is in a homosexual quote-unquote marriage he also
00:40:39.500
professes to be a christian himself so here are some of the things that he said about homosexuality in
00:40:45.400
the past in a 2011 column on his website he wrote no clear words than william f buckley's express our
00:40:52.300
own sentiment towards homosexuality it is a sin and the addict is to be pitied and accepted in
00:40:56.940
christian love but not the pusher or promoter of the agenda on a conservative talk radio program in
00:41:02.460
2023 brown stated homosexuality is a punishment that comes upon a nation that is rejecting god
00:41:07.040
they're debasing themselves and their humanity like this is the position of many many christians by the way
00:41:13.680
this is the position that the bible articulates uh floyd says that he sent this to cnn after they
00:41:19.440
requested the comments he says it's an honor to work at the kennedy center comments rooted in my
00:41:24.700
personal christian views which i've made in the past have no impact upon my work here at the kennedy
00:41:29.000
center nor do they impinge on my interactions with colleagues who do incredible work for the patrons of
00:41:34.760
the center as a christian i am called to work with others of different beliefs and world views he's honored
00:41:41.000
to work for rick grinnell and donald trump and that he is united with them in their mission to bring
00:41:47.660
wholesome entertainment showcasing the best of performing arts and music to america he said it
00:41:52.220
was truly not my intention to offend anyone with my comments i've never intended to attack or demean
00:41:57.040
any person in my statements i've always shared the mission of jesus striving to love others
00:42:03.400
unconditionally personally i think this is too much to give to cnn in a statement if i were talking to
00:42:10.340
cnn i don't think i would have talked that much you got to be so careful um so then after he was fired
00:42:16.240
he says i was fired yesterday by rick grinnell from the john f kennedy center for the performing
00:42:20.500
arts one month ago i was recruited to join the kennedy center as vice president my firing came
00:42:25.180
approximately two hours after cnn sent an email asking me to comment on my past writings about the
00:42:30.300
homosexual influence in the gop he says floyd brown says i asked for an explanation of my dismissal
00:42:37.100
and i asked to speak to rick grinnell both of those requests have been ignored the only explanation is
00:42:42.340
the one given to me at the time of my firing floyd you must recant your belief in traditional marriage
00:42:47.360
and your past statements on the topic or you will be fired needless to say i refused to recant and was
00:42:54.600
shown the door my beliefs are much more common to biblical christianity my only conclusion is rick
00:42:59.720
grinnell was intimidated by a cnn story which hasn't been aired or published so he preemptively fired me
00:43:05.420
for my christian beliefs on marriage okay so i haven't seen any statement from rick grinnell
00:43:13.600
about this so we cannot confirm or deny whether this is true but it does seem that cnn is taking
00:43:22.700
credit for the firing of floyd they ran a story about floyd's firing on thursday may 29th calling
00:43:27.980
him a quote far-right activist with a history of anti-gay comments they did admit that they had reached
00:43:32.640
out to him for comment regarding an investigation but didn't say what the investigation was about
00:43:38.920
cnn did cast doubt on a part of floyd's post saying that a source familiar with the kennedy center
00:43:43.740
confirmed to cnn that brown is no longer working there and said that grinnell had not met with
00:43:49.420
brown did not know him and was not involved in his hiring despite floyd's claims that he had met
00:43:54.900
grinnell previously during his time as a political organizer in arizona and that grinnell was involved in
00:43:59.700
his firing so it seems to me like this is floyd's interpretation of what happened i don't know for
00:44:06.440
sure if his interpretation is correct but rick grinnell was involved in an election in the election
00:44:15.220
of dr oz and kathy bennett and he shared i don't know if he made but he shared videos that were
00:44:21.740
completely doctored and decontextualized things that kathy bennett had said about blm made it seem like
00:44:28.360
she was saying things about blm that were positive when actually she was saying the opposite so i have
00:44:33.660
seen what i think is very dishonest behavior from him i don't know how involved he was in the hiring
00:44:39.140
and firing of this person but as a christian conservative who shares these principles about
00:44:44.220
the definition of biblical marriage with someone like floyd brown this is a troubling report and i hope
00:44:50.000
that we find out what is actually true and i just want to say if you are a christian who holds fast to
00:44:57.180
the natural and biblical definition of marriage and if you work for the trump administration
00:45:01.720
do not allow this to intimidate you share the arrows and make sure that you are standing strong
00:45:07.400
because there are a lot of you in the trump administration there are a lot of you in the
00:45:11.300
executive branch there are a lot of you out there who voted for donald trump
00:45:14.720
and what you believe is not only right but it also matters so don't be intimidated by this
00:45:21.300
go back listen to yesterday's episode you'll get a lot of encouragement all right before we close out
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