Ep 1215 | Baylor University’s New LGBTQ Program Betrays Baptist Roots
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Baylor University has received a large grant from a progressive foundation that is funding research at the university that will be used to convince Christian congregations to be affirming of LGBTQ+. We ve got so much on this story today as we break down the very sad progressive shift of a once great Baptist institution.
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The Baptist Baylor University, a huge college in Texas, has just announced that it received
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a large grant from a progressive foundation that is funding research at the university
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that will be used to convince Christian congregations to be affirming of LGBTQ+.
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We've got so much on this story today as we break down the very sad progressive shift
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of a once great Baptist institution, Baylor University.
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Today, we are talking about another Texas story, this time about a Baptist university in Waco, Texas
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It is a huge school, very popular school, especially for Christian students in the state of Texas
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I graduated from a private Christian school and I think it was like, I only graduated with 110 people
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And I'm pretty sure it was 25 people from my class went to Baylor.
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These are super popular universities in the state of Texas, a very big community in Dallas and elsewhere
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This is a generational thing, especially the A&M people out there.
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I already know what you're yelling because I'm saying A&M.
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I know what you're yelling as you're walking and as you are driving in your car, but I cannot hear you.
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Baylor has been such a big part of Texas culture and really of Baptist life in a lot of ways.
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And as we will see, it has been taking this leftward turn, going down this leftward drift for a long time.
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But now recent news has made a lot of people who have been defending Baylor and its Christian
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ethics stop in their tracks and say, okay, this is just a bridge too far.
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So this was published by the Christian Post last week.
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A private Baptist research university in Waco, Texas, that's Baylor, announced on June 30th
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that it had received $643,401 in grant money from the Eula May and John Baugh Foundation.
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And the goal of this more than half a million dollar grant is to foster LGBTQ, quote unquote,
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This publicly highlighted, the school publicly highlighted this funding through a press release
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from its Diana R. Garland School of Social Work.
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The grant will go toward research that will focus on understanding and addressing, quote,
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the disenfranchisement and exclusion of LGBTQIA plus individuals and women, okay, within congregations
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to nurture institutional courage and foster change.
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So everyone except for straight men, this research is for you.
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This is not something that they are trying to slip under the rug.
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I don't know if they put out a press release for every single grant that they get, but they
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were so enthusiastic about this particular grant that they decided to publicize it.
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So the specific project that this grant is funding is called Courage from the Margins,
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Inclusion and Belonging Practices for LGBTQIA+.
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And women in congregations will use interviews, focus groups, and surveys with two groups of
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25 young adults aged 18 to 24 recruited from across the country to gather information about
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Findings from the research will be used to develop, quote, trauma-informed training resources
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for churches with the aim of encouraging more inclusive practices and environments for
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Like this is what it looks like to actually manifest toxic empathy.
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So what this grant is going to fund is research that will be used to then guilt churches into
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not only including, but affirming those who identify as homosexual or as the opposite sex.
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They are going to say, look, these individuals through our research, we found that they are enduring
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They have abandoned their faith because these churches called who they are sin, and they
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shamed them, and they made them feel like they had to live in the shadows.
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And they'll probably say, you know, if we really want to share the gospel with these people,
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if we really want these people to be walking with Christ, then we need to affirm every part
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This research will be used as a tool of emotional manipulation, a mallet of manipulation to hit
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you, believing person over the head, biblical Christian person, into accepting that which
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That is its express purpose, even if they are not stating this in the press release.
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The press release uses a bunch of progressive hogwash and euphemisms, which tells me that
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Many LGBTQIA plus individuals and women experience what researchers call institutional betrayal within
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Situations where the institutions they depend on for spiritual support fail to protect them
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This might involve exclusion from church activities, family estrangement, and painful conflicts that
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You guys know I love to analyze press releases and public statements that are made after controversies
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or in the midst of scandal because every single word is chosen with intentionality.
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This has been combed over several times by so many different teams of people.
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And so when I'm reading these sentences, I want to know, but what do they mean by that?
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So first, this term institutional betrayal, I've heard it before.
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And so I wanted to know, where does this come from?
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Does it mean what it sounds like it means that the institution you're a part of turns its back
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That's like you make a promise to someone or you say that you're going to do something
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And you say that you accept someone, that you love someone, and then you go back on your
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So I wanted to dig into this a little bit more.
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This term was coined by a University of Oregon professor named Jennifer Freyde.
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And she actually focuses on the psychology of sexual abuse trauma survivors.
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So that is apparently where this term originated.
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And I think it is very telling that you've got organizations like this, Baylor, who is
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accepting this progressive money for this progressive cause, that it is using this term institutional
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betrayal to describe the experiences of people who have probably simply been told that their
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homosexual lifestyle or their identification as the opposite sex is not in alignment with God's
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That is actually a Christian organization or institution staying true to its mission statement,
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staying true to the God that it is actually faithful to.
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To betray someone, you actually have to have made a commitment to them and then gone back
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But if you said, this is who I am, this is what I'm going to do, this is what I'm going
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to stay true to, and that person decides that, well, those things don't actually align with
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what I believe, and they walk away or they're offended by your values, that is not betrayal.
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So already in this language, you see that the responsibility is being put on the church.
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The shame is being put on the church saying you are betraying these people by saying that
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So we know exactly where this is going and exactly why this research is being funded at
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a place like Baylor and a conservative state like Texas and a conservative town like Waco
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This is not really institutional betrayal that Baptists or Christians are guilty of.
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This is actually institutional capture of a previously Christian solid place like Baylor
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University by bad actors, by progressives who are using the emotional manipulation of toxic
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empathy to make you feel bad for abiding by scripture.
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This new LGBTQ inclusion grant is designated for Baylor Center for Church and Community Impact,
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According to the press release, Dr. Gaynor Yancey has been the director of C3I.
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That is part of the university's Diana R. Garland School of Social Work.
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Since 2016, she has authored many of the academic articles recommended by this center dealing
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with the inclusion of the LGBTQ, quote, community and churches.
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Yancey said that the grant will help fill out, quote,
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the bigger picture of congregations practices that result in an environment of belonging
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and will focus on the lived experiences of emerging adults.
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Again, I mean, this progressive euphemistic language is just so telling.
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It will not focus on the objective word of God.
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It will not focus on objective truth, but will focus on the subjective feelings and interpretation
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of events by these individuals who believe that they are marginalized because of the choices
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Way back in 2020, when we were trying our best to interpret all of this nonsense and define
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our terms, we talked about this idea of standpoint epistemology, which is really a far left Marxist
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concept of declaring a truth because it is your perspective, not just my truth and not just,
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oh, this is my perception of things, but truly the search of knowledge from your lived experience.
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And within critical race theory and social justice ideology, standpoint epistemology really trumps
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objective epistemology, like the search of knowledge through observation and through the scientific
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method or whatever methods you want to talk about, which is really supposed to be like an even playing
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field, no matter who you are and what your background is.
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And instead, they would elevate the validity or the trustworthiness of the lived experiences
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of those who are considered marginalized or who are considered oppressed.
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So the immigrant, the black or brown person, basically everyone except for the straight white male.
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You've probably heard the term intersectionality.
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The intersection of identities that you have really determines your level of oppression and
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therefore determines your level of credibility.
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The more oppressed you are, according to this left-wing ideology, the more credibility you
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That is why you see these organizations go into these churches and they are able to convince
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pastors and congregants that they need to be LGBTQ affirming because of their sad lived experiences.
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And again, they're able to use emotion to get people to compromise scripture.
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And you see when this professor says congregations are supposed to be places of care.
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She says that God should soften our hearts towards those who live life on the margins and the shadows,
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And so she is playing upon your desire to be a good person, your good desire to be an includer.
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Or you don't want anyone to feel left out or like they have to lurk in the shadows.
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You know that everyone's inmost desire is to be known and to be loved.
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And so they're using this language to play upon the good instincts as a Christian that you
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already have to convince you that the only way to truly love them is to affirm their sin.
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And congregations, Dr. John Singletary, the dean of this social work school says, have the
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potential to be spaces of healing and belonging.
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Yet too often they become sources of exclusion and harm.
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So if you say what the Bible says about homosexuality, you are harming people.
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This grant equips us to listen deeply, to study carefully.
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Now remember, they're only studying the lived experiences of like 25 people and partner
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faithfully with churches seeking to become more just and welcoming community.
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So you are just, you are welcoming, you are healing, you are belonging.
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If you ignore the parts of the Bible that prohibit homosexuality, that affirm the biblical
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definition of marriage, the reality of the gender binary, and you are harmful and you are anti-healing.
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So I don't know, you're inflicting sickness and pain upon people.
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You are unjust if you abide by those parts of scripture.
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And so all of these euphemisms, all of this language, it is very intentional to communicate
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Now let's talk a little bit more about this foundation.
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Why would a foundation give an over $600,000 grant to Baylor University to ensure that there
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is research supporting the need for affirmation and inclusion of unrepentant LGBTQ people within
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That's when this foundation was started by Yula May and John Baugh.
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They are the founders of the frozen food company, Cisco.
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Maybe in an 18-wheeler passing you by on the highway, a lot of money.
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The couple was known for supporting Baptist efforts, including those of the Baptist General
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Convention of Texas, Baylor Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, a lot of Baptist progressive
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They both died in 2007, and then their daughter, Babs Baugh, took over as president, and she
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Good Faith Media, which is a progressive Christian, I know that's an oxymoron, but they are professing
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Christians as an organization, and they are also politically progressive, theologically
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They wrote a tribute to Babs Baugh that tells us about the organization, the direction that it
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continued to go in under her leadership, and they said that she leaves a lasting legacy
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of tireless efforts to continue the work her parents began of supporting the moderate to
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And they said that she called Baptists beyond the narrowness of religious fundamentalism.
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Again, those euphemisms, those code words are so important.
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It probably just means someone who takes the Bible seriously, especially when it comes to those
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creation order issues, and they said that the narrowness of religious fundamentalism, she tried
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to get people to abandon and move into a larger, more generous, big-tent mindset and ministry.
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It is also worth noting that Good Faith Media has received funding from the Baugh Foundation,
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One of their initiatives is the Faithful Pride Initiative, which, of course, is not possible.
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Faithful Pride, the juxtaposition of those words.
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I mean, it's just heretical nonsense, which seeks to highlight stories of LGBTQ+, people of
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faith doing inspiring work around the country and the world.
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And so these institutions, foundations like this, which are very well-funded, seek to infiltrate
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the church with progressive and secular dogma that they usually cloak in some kind of Christian-sounding
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And of course, Baylor honored her when she died in June of 2020, since the Baugh Foundation had
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actually been giving money to Baylor for a long time, long before this press release was released
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We warmly welcome applications from progressive organizations working in faith-related spaces.
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We prioritize applications from organizations that are openly welcoming and affirming.
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We know what that means in organizations that do not discriminate.
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You discriminate against people when you hire for any job.
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There are different forms of discrimination, and we can debate which forms of discrimination
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are good or bad, but picking one resume over another is also discrimination.
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It just depends, again, on what kind of discrimination you're talking about.
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And so these are code words that are used to convey a progressive message.
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We define faith broadly, and most often fund three types of organizations, progressive Baptist
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organizations and institutions, faith-based nonprofit organizations that share the foundation's
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ethical sensitivities, nonprofit organizations that guard the separation between church and
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Examples of grants toward progressive causes that they have awarded, that the foundation has
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awarded recently, the Institute for Black Church Studies at Baptist Seminary of Kentucky, a $750,000
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grant that establishes an institute to educate congregations on racial justice and inclusivity.
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Again, define our terms, read between the lines.
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It is a critical race theory ideology curriculum that they want infiltrating these otherwise
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A $2.7 million grant that was awarded to the Baptist House of Studies at Southern Methodist
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University, Perkins School of Theology in 2022.
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I mean, it is somewhat progressive, but it is also largely conservative.
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They are picking these kinds of institutions, I think, that are conservative states because they
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want to try to change the political makeup of these red states.
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The Perkins School of Theology course list includes classes such as North American Hispanic Theology,
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African American Liberation Theology, Feminist, Womanist, and Mujerista Theologies, and Queer
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And so this grant is accomplishing exactly what the Ball Foundation wants it to accomplish,
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which is, of course, the disintegrating of solid theology in place of the standpoint epistemology.
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This is intersectionality using some Bible verses to try to justify it.
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A racial justice initiative at Simmons College of Kentucky, a $2 million grant that supports
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efforts at Simmons College to address systemic racism through a racial justice initiative.
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While systemic racism does not exist in the United States in 2025, racial justice is not
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actually biblical justice because it is partial to one kind of person over another kind of person
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And God says throughout scripture, Old Testament, New Testament, that he hates partiality.
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We know exactly where so-called racial justice goes.
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It goes into defunding the police and actually harming the very vulnerable communities that racial
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In 2018, the Baugh Foundation funded a nationwide study conducted again at Baylor's C3I institution
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program, exploring how congregations approach decision-making regarding LGBTQ inclusion,
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which resulted in Baylor's LGBTQ plus discernment guide at Baylor University, a guide to help
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churches navigate decisions to be more inclusive in their practices and policies specific to
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And this is a great example of what the Baugh Foundation wants to accomplish through these
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They want these institutions like Baylor University to put out statements, to put out guidelines
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that are affirming of those who live LGBTQ lifestyles.
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In 2021, the university announced the creation of an endowed physics chair, a permanent position
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for a physics professor, funded through a donation from the Baugh Estate.
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Bastion pointed out that Baylor's increasing reliance on the self-proclaimed progressives holding
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I mean, the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
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When you feel indebted to someone, I mean, the borrower is the slave to the lender, and
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this is not alone, but the same principle applies when someone is funding your life and they say,
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well, you have to do this or we're not going to fund you anymore.
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Unless you serve a higher master, which Baylor is, of course, supposed to as a professing Christian
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In 2024, the Baugh Foundation funded the Building Resilient Congregations Research Pilot Project,
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where that same professor, Yancey, at the Social Work School and her team worked with selected
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congregations in three distinct areas, accompaniment, trauma care, and LGBTQ discernment.
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Again, I think it's so telling, the conflation of those who choose to embrace the LGBTQ life
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and those who have endured actual sexual abuse and trauma.
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That's not to say that those who are tempted in one direction, either by gender deception
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and confusion or sexual lust towards the same sex, that those people should be marginalized.
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Those people should be pushed into the shadows, but that's not what we're talking about here.
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I do think that the church has a place, should be a place, for compassion and care and love
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and grace-filled truth for those who are struggling with those sins.
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But we are talking about those who have accepted these things as their unchangeable stated identity.
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And if you believe that, that some sins are either not really sins or they cannot be repented of
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because they are so innate, then you don't believe in the gospel.
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So that's what I am reading in all of this, that Baylor doesn't actually believe in the gospel.
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And beyond all of this progressive ideology that it's accepting,
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that is the most troubling part of all of this.
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If you are a donor to Baylor, if you are planning to send your kids to Baylor,
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know that Baylor University is showing you that it does not believe in the gospel,
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that it believes that it is nicer than God, that it believes that God is too mean,
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So it has to apologize for it, has to caveat it, has to ignore some parts of it
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If God is love, 1 John 4, 8, then we cannot outlove him.
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We read in 1 Corinthians 13, 6, that love, among other things,
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never rejoices in wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
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God is not only love, but he is also the source of truth.
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The same God who is love tells us in the 27th verse of the first chapter of the first book of
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the Bible that he made us male and female in his image.
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It's like he knew we were going to get confused.
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He was like, I'm not even going to make you read 30 verses before I tell you how this is.
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I mean, so many answers to the culture war questions that we have are found in that very
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one verse in the first chapter of the first book of the Bible.
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I don't care about the first chapter of the first book of the Bible.
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That place of self-idolatry is extremely dangerous.
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And I would just be careful about being a part of this anymore.
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You still want to support them in certain ways.
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I would be very, very careful about supporting them with your dollars.
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Now, if you don't know what a big deal Baylor is, I just want to spell this out for you.
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They're one of the oldest operating universities in Texas, the world's largest Baptist-affiliated
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They enroll over 20,000 students across their undergrad, grad, and professional programs
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The university contributes over $1 billion annually to the state's economy through research,
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through employment, through community engagement, making it a key driver in Central Texas.
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Again, that is why these progressive organizations are sending their dollars to Baylor and not
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all of these other little organizations, although they may be doing that too.
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But they understand that Baylor can change the theological makeup and the political makeup
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of one of the last biggest Republican holdouts in the country.
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This is not simply people sending their dollars to places that are near and dear to their heart.
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I mean, it is partly that, but it is part of a bigger strategy.
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The university is still associated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which holds
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to the belief that, quote, sexual relationships honor God only when they occur within marriage
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Those of you who are listening to or watching this, who are a part of the Baptist General Convention
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of Texas, you need to flex any muscles you have, and you need to let go of your affiliation
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Now, I know this is probably hard because I don't know the financial relationship between
00:31:40.560
Baylor and the Baptist General Convention of Texas, but I imagine that there is some kind
00:31:46.340
of financial benefit that the Baptist General Convention gets from its affiliation with Baylor.
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And I would say, look, if you want to honor God, if you want to be faithful to God, if you
00:31:57.760
believe in the authority and the goodness and the love of God, then it's time to cut ties.
00:32:11.040
But I would say, those of you who are faithful Baptists, who are part of that institution,
00:32:18.040
that organization, it's time to cut ties until Baylor makes a change.
00:32:22.680
There's a lot of contradictions in Baylor's mission statements.
00:32:26.740
Their mission statement as of 2025 is to educate men and women for worldwide leadership and service
00:32:32.040
by integrating academic excellence and Christian commitment within a caring community.
00:32:38.260
We expect that each Baylor student will conduct himself or herself in accordance with Christian
00:32:42.780
principles as commonly perceived by Texas Baptists.
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It's kind of a personal misconduct either on or off campus by anyone connected with Baylor
00:32:50.280
detracts from the Christian witness Baylor strives to present to the world the hindersful
00:32:54.040
accomplishment of the mission of the university.
00:33:01.220
Baylor will be guided by the biblical understanding that human sexuality is a gift from God and that
00:33:08.880
This is their sexual conduct policy is to be expressed in the context of marital fidelity.
00:33:13.940
Thus, it is expected that Baylor student faculty and staff will engage in behaviors consistent
00:33:26.520
An official FAQ document titled Baylor University's Christian Mission and Identity included the
00:33:32.460
All faculty and staff at Baylor are either Christian or Jewish, but do not need to sign a statement
00:33:41.940
Institutions like Wheaton College, Liberty University, Biola.
00:33:46.400
Now, Wheaton also has its own progressive LGBTQ issues.
00:33:50.880
But they do require employees to sign a doctrinal statement.
00:33:56.320
Pepperdine requires faculties to support the university's religious mission.
00:34:03.220
Like, I would say that's a red flag that Baylor doesn't make its faculty do that.
00:34:09.320
Students are required to take two semesters of chapel.
00:34:12.700
However, these chapel sessions aren't necessarily theologically solid.
00:34:19.640
There's a lot of different kinds of theological perspectives, I would say, shared at these
00:34:27.260
at the chapel sessions, at the chapel events that they have to go to.
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Let's look a little bit more at Baylor's gradual shift.
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So shortly after the Supreme Court's Obergefell decision legalized gay marriage in September
00:34:42.440
or in 2015, Baylor's Board of Regents, that's the governing body of the university that's made
00:34:49.340
up of volunteer leaders who make decisions about the university budget and plans and things
00:34:52.920
like that, quietly removed language from the student conduct code that labeled homosexual
00:35:02.780
So this is an institution that is, is going wherever the political winds blow.
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This is not an institution that for the most part, I'm not talking about every single teacher
00:35:15.740
But the leadership of Baylor University is scared of the world, is scared of politics.
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Like they are going to go wherever the progressive mob takes them.
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They are not willing to stand on the word of God courageously and say, you know what?
00:35:32.880
Jesus says, if they hate you, it's because they hated me first.
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They're going to go where the political winds blow.
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So they're going to quietly remove language that says what the Bible says.
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Homosexuality is a sin after Obergefell says that people have a constitutional right to
00:35:55.700
It was seen as a significant step away from previous policy, though the university continued
00:36:00.660
to affirm a biblical view of sexuality in some of its official statements.
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But there are other parts, not just the LGBTQ stuff, but other directions that Baylor is going
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that indicates their progressive shift, including an embracing of BLM, social justice, ideology,
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In June of 2020, President Linda Livingstone publicly endorsed Black Lives Matter.
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You know, the Black Lives Matter movement that said that they are trying to disrupt, dismantle
00:39:03.540
the Western prescribed definition of the nuclear family, who said that they were fighting for
00:39:09.180
women and children or moms and children and left out fathers.
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You know BLM that is led by self-professed Marxists and God haters?
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Well, this Baptist University once again caved to pressure June of 2020 when the world needed
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more than anything for Christians to stand firm and to be beacons of clarity in a moment
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of chaos and confusion and decided, oh, no, I'm going to publicly endorse BLM.
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And described it as a social movement that highlights the fact that once Black Lives Begin
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to Matter, capital B, all lives will truly matter.
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By the way, like just to know, I will never capitalize the description of your skin color.
00:40:01.340
And when I see that, that is also an indication of someone's ideology or an indication that
00:40:13.240
She announced policies post George Floyd's death at Baylor, including diversity, equity
00:40:18.500
That's DEI scholarships and promised increased non-white enrollment.
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That, by the way, now is illegal, says the Supreme Court.
00:40:28.660
You can't discriminate against someone because they have less melanin.
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And again, that is partiality, which God hates.
00:40:43.620
You can go back to some 2020 episodes where we go into that in depth.
00:40:47.080
In her announcement of these DEI initiatives, Livingstone says racial justice is not just
00:40:58.060
Does it mean punishing people because they have less melanin?
00:41:01.340
So you're not going to give them scholarships based on something that they couldn't control?
00:41:07.160
I had no idea that was part of the Christian Baptist mission.
00:41:22.360
I thought that that was supposed to play into this here.
00:41:25.920
Members of the, this is another part of their leftward shift.
00:41:31.460
Now, members of the LGBTQ student group Gamma Alpha Epsilon, gay, founded in 2011, tried
00:41:37.880
for 10 years to get official recognition as a campus organization from Baylor, but Baylor
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But then faculty started silently protesting by putting rainbow flags on all of their stuff,
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And then in May 2021, Baylor's Board of Regents passed a noncommittal resolution to explore
00:41:55.740
additional care connections and community for LGBTQ.
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Students included a possibility of a chartered student group that aligned with Baylor's
00:42:10.720
But in 2022, after Baylor's student activities department held listening sessions with students,
00:42:16.680
faculty, and other stakeholders, who's that, I wonder, to discuss the needs of LGBTQ students,
00:42:22.560
the university officially recognized an LGBTQ student organization called PRISM.
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This is an official student organization that is giving a voice to LGBTQ students and offering
00:42:44.780
Baylor spokesperson Lori Fogelman stated that PRISM's charter did not promote understandings
00:42:54.460
I guess if you, like, exclude Romans 1, Genesis 1, 1 Corinthians 6.
00:43:01.680
It was required to operate within Baylor's code of conduct, which prohibits advocacy against
00:43:08.340
But, again, since 2015, as we read earlier, doesn't actually condemn homosexual acts.
00:43:14.660
Also in 2021, you might remember this episode with my friend, Dr. Christina Crenshaw.
00:43:24.220
She is, responded to a tweet about Biden's transgender rights executive order, quote unquote
00:43:30.280
transgender rights executive order, that stated that transgender individuals should not face
00:43:35.540
barriers in accessing facilities, so many euphemisms, or sports consistent with their quote unquote
00:43:43.160
So this means, hey, if you are receiving public funding, then you've got to allow men into girls
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Christina Crenshaw said on Acts January 2021, what if I don't want biological boys in the bathroom
00:44:02.220
Do the 99% of us who do not struggle with gender dysphoria have a voice?
00:44:08.960
So she said that several years ago, and this led to huge backlash from some Baylor students
00:44:14.440
who reported her tweet to various campus organizations, including Title IX, BU Equity, Baylor N-E-C-P,
00:44:23.900
So apparently these are also campus organizations, if I'm understanding correctly, that are LGBTQ
00:44:31.400
The Baylor laureate, the student newspaper, initially labeled her comments as transphobic,
00:44:36.100
but then later issued an apology and described her words as controversial.
00:44:47.980
We shared the arrows with her, and I'm very grateful for the courage that she had and
00:44:54.480
Starting around 2021, LGBTQ plus students, including one named Veronica Bonifacio Penalas,
00:45:02.380
filed several Title IX complaints against Baylor with the Department of Education's Office
00:45:09.380
These complaints alleged the university failed to address anti-LGBTQ harassment and discrimination.
00:45:17.280
Even when you compromise, when you give in a little, they're never going to be happy.
00:45:22.800
It doesn't matter what you say about social justice.
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It doesn't matter what you say about racial minorities.
00:45:28.480
It doesn't matter that you quietly remove condemning language from your student conduct
00:45:34.200
It doesn't matter that you are like hinting toward celebration and affirmation of LGBTQ
00:45:39.320
unless you fully embrace it and celebrate what God calls sin.
00:45:45.360
Unless you allow yourself to lay prostrate in front of them,
00:46:05.160
Penalas said that Baylor is using their religion as an excuse to back their homophobic beliefs.
00:46:12.940
Well, in 2023, Baylor filed for Title IX religious exemptions, which protect the university's right
00:46:21.740
So that would mean that they're saying, hey, we don't want to have to allow men actually
00:46:27.580
into girls' bathrooms and play on girls' teams.
00:46:33.180
They petitioned for dismissal for ongoing investigations claiming discrimination against students.
00:46:39.580
They wanted an exemption from Title IX rules that require non-discrimination based on sexual
00:46:46.140
They wanted assurance that enforcing its religious policies won't be considered, quote, sexual harassment,
00:46:51.220
which is exactly what the Biden administration tried to do through their unconstitutional Title IX
00:46:58.020
Well, when they filed for these exemptions, over 1,300 people in the Baylor community signed
00:47:02.580
an open letter in August of that year arguing that the university's request for Title IX
00:47:07.660
religious exemptions raised deep moral and spiritual concerns that are at the heart of
00:47:15.340
Like, I think all of these people just majored in poetry.
00:47:19.360
Like, none of their words have substance, which is actually why they're dangerous and actually
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how propaganda gets you because it sounds really good and sophisticated, but it actually means
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nothing or it actually means something really nefarious and they're just trying to make it
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So you have to be discerning about that kind of stuff.
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This open letter urge for the university to end the harmful separate and equal treatment
00:47:45.480
So and what they mean by that is not allowing boys into girls' bathrooms.
00:47:48.700
Um, take all necessary steps to ensure that LGBTQIA students on campus are protected from
00:47:54.660
Again, they're defining sexual harassment, how Biden defined sexual harassment, which was
00:48:00.500
calling a man he or not letting him into the girl's bathroom.
00:48:06.340
So this is just to show you that Baylor is getting a lot of pushback for even trying a little bit
00:48:12.600
to maintain its Christian values when it comes to sexuality.
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A religious exemption accountability project and advocacy group focused on holding religious
00:48:21.740
institutions accountable for Title IX exemptions expressed their outrage about this.
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Baylor University specifically sought assurance that the university and its students cannot
00:48:30.640
be accused of sexual harassment for their behavior towards LGBTQ people.
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Your religious students should not require you to act in a way that may be classified as sexual
00:48:40.460
Well, if you redefine sexual harassment to mean telling the truth and acknowledging the science
00:48:48.120
of gender, then yeah, they're going to be guilty of that.
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They capture language without you even realizing it.
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And before you know it, you start thinking that it is bigoted or hateful or harassing to simply
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say what is true to simply abide by God's good precepts.
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When you change the language, you change people's conscious, consciousnesses and their consciences.
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And that's exactly what is going on here, which is why it is so important to dissect every
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We really can't have a productive conversation and dialogue and debate unless we are defining
00:49:40.920
And like, I want to know, where did you get that definition of sexual harassment?
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If it's from the Biden administration, okay, well, I don't consider them an authority because
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And typically, if you get into that kind of specific dialogue with someone on the left,
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they get very frustrated and then they'll just say, you know, you're hateful and bow
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And you're not losing if that happens because you're at the very least getting them to think
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Open Secrets is a website that tracks campaign contributions from individuals that are associated
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And on their website, you see that in the 2024 election cycle, Baylor-affiliated individuals
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donated $126,000, a little bit over that, to different candidates.
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But predominantly, it seems from what we can see on Open Secrets, that this money was given
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to Democratic candidates like Kamala Harris and Colin Allred.
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He is the guy that ran against Texas Senator Ted Cruz.
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And so it suggests institutional alignment with the Democratic Party, even among its faculty
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The Baylor Board of Regents passed a resolution in 2025 acknowledging the university's founders'
00:53:05.420
ties to slavery and formed a panel to review memorials and statues linked to slaveholders,
00:53:09.960
signaling a reckoning with its historical past.
00:53:16.900
I mean, every single country has a storied past.
00:53:25.040
We are accomplishing nothing by tearing down these statues and apologizing today for something
00:53:33.440
That doesn't mean we should rejoice that that happened.
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But today, you are not held responsible for the sins of the people that kind of maybe looked
00:53:42.620
like you in the same general geographic region as you 200 years ago.
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Again, that's no biblical definition of justice.
00:53:49.840
And this is just another example to me of Baylor being weak.
00:53:56.700
At the very least, on the creation order stuff.
00:53:59.740
Like, on the very least, the first chapter of the first book of the Bible.
00:54:04.480
And I'll just remind you of the alliteration that I made up several years ago that we've said
00:54:10.180
Baylor, if you're listening to this, the definition of marriage and gender.
00:54:15.240
Specifically of marriage, but it applies to the definition of gender as male and female.
00:54:26.420
It's not just about the passages that are specifically condemning homosexuality.
00:54:38.140
And so, even if those were the only verses that exist that condemn homosexuality, that
00:54:43.380
would be enough for Christians to agree with that.
00:54:46.600
Because the most loving thing we can always do is agree with God.
00:54:50.860
It's the affirmative and positive definition of marriage and gender that we see throughout
00:54:56.980
scripture that has not only physical and earthly significance, but eternal and spiritual
00:55:04.520
The definition of marriage between one man and one woman is one rooted in creation.
00:55:21.180
Dave, have you not read that in the beginning he made them male and female?
00:55:24.960
As he is answering a question about divorce, he goes all the way back to creation to specifically
00:55:30.340
define marriage as between one man and one woman.
00:55:33.820
Repeated by Jesus, it is representative of Christ and the church.
00:55:39.140
That the marriage between one man and one woman is representative of Christ, the groom, and the
00:55:49.280
You cannot have that with two women, which really means there is no such thing as homosexual
00:55:54.560
It is actually, according to the God who created marriage, an oxymoron.
00:55:59.060
The spiritual reality that is represented in the earthly union of man and woman is eternal.
00:56:06.560
And therefore, it is reflective of the gospel because it is representative of Christ in the
00:56:14.580
You know, that message of good news that contains salvation for us through Christ, that, yeah,
00:56:22.320
that is what earthly marriage between one man and one woman reflects.
00:56:30.240
The marriage that the Bible starts with is a representation, a reflection of the marriage
00:56:39.260
And it's not just the Bible that has these bookends of marriage.
00:56:43.380
It is all of time actually starts with a marriage and ends with a marriage.
00:56:51.840
And that is why, Baylor, as you get this wrong, you are starting to get everything else wrong
00:56:56.560
Because those who deny Genesis 1, 27 always end up denying John 14, 6, that Jesus is the
00:57:07.620
Because when you start believing that you are nicer and better and more loving than God,
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you exchange the God of scripture for the God of self.
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And self-idolatry goes all the way back to the garden.
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I just want to say also, I know we mentioned her earlier, but huge shout out to Megan Basham.
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As usual, she is one of the first people that I saw talk about this.
00:59:03.000
She's going to be on a Friday episode of Relatable very soon in person as we continue to pray for her
00:59:11.340
And she's going to be giving us even more insight to the nefarious organizations that are strategically
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funding previously conservative and solid institutions like Baylor.
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Danny Burke, who is the associate pastor at Kenwood Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky.
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He's also a professor at the Seminary Boyce College.
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This is illuminating and sad and not at all surprising.
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Baylor has been moving away from Christian faithfulness for decades, but it's still sad
00:59:41.580
to watch another nail in the coffin of a once great Christian university.
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Then Reverend Matt Kennedy, he's a senior pastor at an Anglican church in Corpus Christi.
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I thought this was interesting and I actually agree.
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It's much better to send your child to a secular university hostile to the faith than to a Christian
01:00:02.720
Better the wolf with bared fangs than the wolf disguised as a shepherd.
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That is profound and really good and really good because at least if you go to a secular
01:00:13.540
hostile university, which I don't necessarily recommend that you pay for that and send your
01:00:17.860
kids to that, but they know what they're walking into.
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So they know that what they are going to be hearing and seeing is not of God.
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And so they can kind of identify that, that, okay, everything this professor says is probably
01:00:32.480
It's not in alignment with my faith, but if they go to a place like Baylor that they
01:00:37.640
expect to be a bastion of truth of, you know, of biblical doctrine and their professor of
01:00:45.880
Christian ethics or whatever starts saying things that aren't biblical, well, then they
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Well, he must just be true and I must've been taught wrong in the past.
01:00:56.900
And so I would say don't do either of those options as a parent, but I think the principle
01:01:05.000
There's so much that we could say in all of this, but it, I, it is so obviously a spiritual
01:01:15.060
The institutional capture by secular progressive organizations, foundations is real.
01:01:24.280
You have to guard your heart and your mind and your wallet to ensure that you are not sending
01:01:30.480
the treasure, the money that God has entrusted you with to steward faithfully to institutions
01:01:38.420
that are actively fighting against his word and trying to infiltrate the minds of students
01:01:45.500
and Christian congregations to convince them that sin isn't really sin.
01:01:52.600
I am not saying that everyone associated with Baylor is on board with that, but enough people
01:01:57.380
are that they are taking money from overtly progressive organizations who are bent on the
01:02:10.740
And that is a very, very dangerous kind of organization institution to partner with.
01:02:16.560
We'll have more on this in the future and more on Friday.
01:02:20.720
I will be having a very, um, heated, but very productive conversation that you guys are really