Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1223 ｜ The Forrest Frank Formula： Why Christian Music Is Trending

00:00:00.960 HHS Secretary RFK Jr. just announced findings from an investigation that revealed a very

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00:00:14.120 Raymond Lynch, to talk about these very disturbing findings, as well as the potential for amazing

00:00:20.560 hope and redemption that we can find in organ donation. But first, we're going to talk about

00:00:26.120 some happy news. Number one, Cosmo is worried about the impact that Relatable is having on women.

00:00:32.680 That's a good thing. Number two, Christian music is making a huge splash and is having an incredible

00:00:40.460 effect on the mainstream. And then we have to look, unfortunately, at this Wall Street Journal

00:00:46.680 story about reborn dolls. I think this makes a huge statement about where our country is spiritually.

00:00:55.440 We've got all of this and much more on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our

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00:01:14.080 app store. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day

00:01:31.800 and that you had a great weekend. First, very important point of order, very important piece

00:01:38.860 of business. Brie got new glasses and we need to talk about the new glasses. Can we pull up Brie,

00:01:44.820 please? Brie, I love your new glasses. I noticed them as soon as I walked in. They stopped me in my

00:01:50.840 tracks. Thank you so much. How long did you have your old glasses? Like two years. I've been really

00:01:56.600 putting off. That's not that long. Well, yeah, I guess people, some people wait longer, but I've been

00:02:00.620 really putting off going to the eye doctor and finally I did. So you said you're blind. Is that true?

00:02:05.500 Yeah. Oh, I can't see anything without my glasses. Really? That's why I wear them all the time.

00:02:09.960 Have you always had glasses? Um, since like middle school. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Wow. And I can't even

00:02:17.120 wear contacts because they're, they're too like itchy. That's how bad my eyesight is. Yeah. I went

00:02:22.140 through a stage in high school of wearing colored contacts just for fun and they like burned my eyes.

00:02:28.660 It was terrible, but I was like, must have blue eyes. Yeah. The blue eye phase. Yeah.

00:02:35.240 Um, my vision, I wonder if this is true for anyone else out there. My vision has gotten considerably

00:02:42.040 worse after my pregnancies. So you can look forward to that one day that you might even become more

00:02:48.820 blind after. I don't know what it is, but your body changes a lot and I cannot see far away. And so I

00:02:56.240 also need to go to the eye doctor. Oh, how long has it been for you? Two years. Yeah. But I can see most

00:03:02.600 things. I don't need reading glasses. It's when I'm driving, which is great. Um, but I just have a

00:03:09.220 hard time. Like everything is kind of blurry from, from far away. And I didn't really notice it until

00:03:15.360 like my daughter started being able to read and she would be like reading a sign. And I'm like,

00:03:21.240 how in the world can you see that? And then I was like, Oh, I am losing my eyesight. And maybe it's

00:03:28.000 just getting older too. Yeah. It might be that, but okay. I just wanted to say cute glasses. So

00:03:32.760 everyone leave a comment of affirmation for Brie. Um, okay. A couple other things I wanted to say.

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00:04:28.080 she wants this merch. She wants this specific merch, CJLA and Relatable. And so if you love her

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00:04:41.040 you should probably get her hat, sweatshirt, tote, and t-shirt just to be safe. Just to be safe,

00:04:47.080 I would get her one of each. All right. Relatable had some mentions in the media over the weekend.

00:04:53.460 And I just want to talk about that because I am very thankful that the things we talk about here,

00:04:59.200 raising a respectful ruckus for the things that matter, trying as best we can to navigate the

00:05:04.720 chaos and confusion and cowardice of our culture with as much clarity and courage as we possibly can,

00:05:12.140 that that message is also being conveyed to an audience who is not used to what we have to say

00:05:19.080 about the biblical reality of truth and morality and marriage and gender and the dignity of life.

00:05:25.720 I had that New York Times interview just a couple weeks ago that came out. And then there was another

00:05:34.180 New York Times piece that came out that was very negative and completely inaccurate about the

00:05:39.600 very straightforward argument of toxic empathy. It was also included in a negative article by David

00:05:45.640 French, but what else is new in the New York Times? But this article that came out in Cosmo was,

00:05:52.360 I wouldn't say it was positive, but it was more fair than some of the recent articles that have come

00:05:59.780 out. That one interview that I did with the New York Times was with Ross, that was very fair. But some of

00:06:05.560 the subsequent articles after that were not. This, however, I thought was such an interesting

00:06:10.580 description. And I want to just go through some of the things that they said and what message this

00:06:17.340 particular journalist is probably trying to convey. So she wrote this article in Cosmo. Now, mind you,

00:06:24.980 Cosmo was the outlet that just a couple of years ago put up a how-to on Instagram for instructions for a

00:06:32.120 satanic ritual abortion. All right. And so they're probably not down for the most part with the

00:06:38.300 things that we are saying on Relatable. Here's the title of this article. Meet the new wave of

00:06:43.780 femininity influencers who want you to abandon feminism as you know it. Some of you pointed out

00:06:49.820 that they're already kind of categorizing me as new when really I've been doing this for 10 years. I'm not

00:06:56.620 new. I've talked about all the same things that I've always talked about. It just is never ending.

00:07:01.440 The need to talk about these things. So here's how they open this up. And this might sound like a

00:07:07.140 puff piece that we gave them this language ourselves. In the recording studio, Allie Beth

00:07:12.500 Stuckey sits on a cream sofa, her blonde hair perfectly tousled. Wow. She leans into the microphone

00:07:19.140 and speaks. Okay. Listen to this. I just think this is so, it's so funny how they describe it. And it's

00:07:26.220 sweet. But then you get into what, you know, the message that they're really trying to convey.

00:07:29.660 She's chatty and fun, interspersing the serious with the silly. And at first glance, she's just

00:07:35.020 like any other podcaster. Just at first glance, though. In many ways, Stuckey's entire brand is

00:07:39.940 built on being a regular girl's girl. Her hair is impeccably blow-dried. She hates matcha, wears floral

00:07:46.000 dresses, and throws in pop culture references like she's just another millennial in the group chat.

00:07:50.620 Her podcast is called Relatable, and that's exactly what she wants to be to our listeners. But Stuckey

00:07:54.320 isn't just here to chat. She's here to convert. And this is where she gets into, okay, Allie Beth

00:08:02.400 Stuckey is emblematic of this very frightening, the left would say, movement to try to convince women

00:08:09.980 of a particular message that is not progressivism. But that is true. Those last lines are true. I am not

00:08:18.220 just here to chat. I am here. I don't know if I would say convert, although that's true. I do want

00:08:23.300 people to convert to Christianity. Absolutely. That is my number one desire. But to convince,

00:08:29.040 that is absolutely true. Every single podcast episode I do is meant to be persuasive. Yes,

00:08:34.740 encouraging. Yes, emboldening. Yes, edifying. But I wanted to persuade people. I wanted to change

00:08:41.640 people's minds. And I'm very grateful. I'm so grateful for the messages that I get from people

00:08:46.560 saying, I thought this, and now I think this. So here's how this journalist frames this.

00:08:53.280 There's a new women's movement emerging, one directly reacting to all that's come before it.

00:08:58.540 Those who are part of it, to varying degrees, believe the decades of feminism have harmed us

00:09:02.860 and made us more miserable. That marriage modesty and motherhood is the way out of our discontent.

00:09:10.580 Stuckey is at the more radical end of the scale. Her podcast is unapologetically right-wing

00:09:15.740 and Christian, encouraging women to lean out of all that we've been taught and let men take

00:09:20.460 charge again. Now, obviously, I do believe that men should be leaders. Men should especially be

00:09:26.540 leaders within the church, leaders in the family. But I wouldn't say that that is like a huge part

00:09:32.860 of the message that I'm conveying on a daily basis. Many episodes involve deep dives into scripture,

00:09:38.200 the promotion of, she says, quote unquote, biblical womanhood, a belief about gender norms.

00:09:42.980 Others center around political discussion, often focusing on abortion, which Stuckey opposes

00:09:48.540 in all circumstances. This is true. She lightens the tone with edgy, edgy, and sarcastic takedowns

00:09:56.060 of pop culture and discussions on parenting. Now, here's where she thinks. So she also discusses

00:10:03.220 Alex Clark and she talks about Louise Perry. She's an author, a very interesting person that I've had

00:10:09.340 on this podcast before. She talked to Alex Clark and she mentions that being palatable is key.

00:10:15.900 Both Stuckey and Clark promote traditional Christian marriage, oppose abortion, and berate

00:10:19.600 hormonal contraception. True. They sell a lifestyle that looks very close to that of trad wives.

00:10:26.500 Yada, yada, yada. But a cynic might say they understand that rejecting the trad wifery of current

00:10:32.340 discourse is a way for them to appeal to a wider audience. So she believes that we're pushing,

00:10:38.000 basically, trad wife lifestyle, but we're hedging a little bit because we're afraid that it's going

00:10:43.740 to lose us followers. And she admits that that is a cynical take. Of course, that is not true. I

00:10:49.460 think I've been very consistent that biblical womanhood and the trad wife trend that we see

00:10:54.520 that is largely superficial and a little bit fetishistic on social media, they're not the same

00:11:01.140 thing. There are good parts of being a quote-unquote traditional wife, but being a biblical wife is

00:11:08.360 better. That might include some things that look traditional. It very often does, but it is not

00:11:14.280 synonymous. Those ideas are not interchangeable because you can be going to hell and be a trad wife.

00:11:19.660 Okay? So they're different things. She mentioned Stuckey has even gone as far as saying that some

00:11:25.960 trad wife content lacks moral substance and has referred to it as straight up 1950s fetishized

00:11:33.740 cosplay. That is true. It does lack moral substance. And then this article, it's actually

00:11:39.920 interesting. I would encourage you to read it because it is a pretty fair perspective from a left

00:11:47.660 wing angle of the fear of conservatism and the fear of Christian motherhood and womanhood and the fear

00:11:57.100 that we might be appealing to women and a demographic that progressives dominate right now and have

00:12:05.100 historically dominated. And there's a paragraph in here, and I don't have it in front of me, but

00:12:11.160 they cite someone by the name of Dr. K. And she says that the fear is that women will start mirroring

00:12:20.140 the voting patterns of the men who have been affected by the manosphere. And I say, oh my goodness,

00:12:26.320 from Cosmo's lips to God's ears, that would be wonderful. That's not my primary objective to change

00:12:32.940 how people vote. I want to help by the power of the Holy Spirit change how people think, how we see the

00:12:39.580 world the best that we can from a biblical perspective. And that, of course, will affect

00:12:44.560 how we vote. And that's a good thing. Politics matter because policy matters, because people

00:12:49.360 matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affect people. And people matter. People matter to God,

00:12:55.100 and people matter to us. And Jesus is King is an all-accompassing statement. God made the heavens

00:13:02.460 and the earth in the beginning. God made the heavens and the earth. That means He's the authority over

00:13:06.960 all of it so we don't get to compartmentalize what we think about God and what we think about morality

00:13:12.740 and what we think about politics. And really, no one does. Whether you're a secularist or whether you

00:13:18.580 are a Christian, what you think about God and who is in charge and therefore what is right and wrong

00:13:23.980 inevitably and must affect your politics. And so while I'm not talking every day about what's going on in

00:13:30.800 the news at this moment, I'm not talking every day about what's going on in politics. I'm trying

00:13:35.820 the best I can, again, to navigate this crazy world from a biblical perspective, taking you along with

00:13:42.080 me. That will, yes, affect how we think and affect how we involve ourselves politically. And I would say

00:13:50.340 that's a very good thing. We also have some encouraging news, something that is going on in the Christian

00:13:56.780 music world that I got to talk about on the news over the weekend. And it has to do with one of

00:14:03.340 your favorite artists, and that is Forrest Frank. And we'll get into that in just a second. First,

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00:17:58.000 Okay, Christian music making a comeback. So for the first time since 2014, over 10 years,

00:18:06.980 two Christian artists have songs charting on the Billboard Top 100, which ranks the most popular

00:18:11.880 songs across all genres based on streaming activity from digital platforms. Forrest Frank's

00:18:16.780 Your Way Is Better reached number 61, has been on the chart for 13 weeks. That is awesome.

00:18:21.780 While Brandon Lake's Hard Fought Hallelujah peaked at number 40 and has charted for 22 weeks. That is

00:18:29.700 awesome. I'm so excited about this. And Bree, you went to Forrest Frank a few weeks ago. I went to

00:18:35.600 Forrest Frank, my chief related bro and I and our oldest daughter. We loved it. There were so many

00:18:41.140 kids there. Very family friendly and like legitimately a big concert that wasn't just for kids. But you went

00:18:47.300 with a friend. What did you think about it? I thought it was so much fun. I thought I think

00:18:52.240 you said that you left a little bit early. I know at the end, I felt like that. I mean,

00:18:58.220 he gave like a very clear gospel presentation. And he was very clear throughout the whole thing that

00:19:04.760 like this was like a night of worship. It was probably the biggest night of worship in that city

00:19:09.960 that night. And so, yeah, I just thought it was really, it was really great. I actually didn't

00:19:15.740 know that much of his music before I went though. So it was kind of a new experience for me. And

00:19:20.560 yeah, I thought it was great. It's just like he got the kids involved too, which I think was fun.

00:19:25.940 Yeah. He's calling people up on stage and stuff. So it's a fun experience.

00:19:28.980 I might've said this last time, but I, um, he, you know, he posts a lot of videos on Instagram

00:19:35.640 and we'll play one in a second, but he posted one a few months ago where he was responding to a

00:19:42.300 comment, maybe on Tik TOK where it said like, would you ever cuss in any of your songs or something

00:19:48.500 like that? And he just said, I think he just shook his head or just said no. And then it was a

00:19:53.640 montage of all of the different kids that come to his concerts. And I just thought that that was

00:20:00.100 so sweet. Now, obviously he's honoring God first and foremost, but as a mom, someone thinking about

00:20:06.860 that when he could so easily not, he could so easily say, well, this is not for kids. I don't

00:20:12.060 make songs for kids. I'm not the Wiggles, but he's thinking, okay, these people, I care about them

00:20:19.240 and I want to build them up. And I just thought that was, I thought that was really, really sweet.

00:20:23.640 So, um, I was on Fox news this weekend and I was asked about this on Fox and friends,

00:20:30.260 just this trend of, um, really popular Christian music that is entering into the mainstream.

00:20:38.200 And I gave my take on it, but then Forrest Frank, who has like 4 million followers on Instagram,

00:20:42.960 he kind of reacted to it on his profile, which I thought was really fun. Here's that one.

00:20:48.500 The first time multiple Christian musicians are charting on the Billboard Hot 100 at the same time

00:20:54.840 and staying there for weeks. Gen Z is becoming more Christian. In fact, the most Christian

00:21:00.600 generation in quite some time. What is causing this? A 60% global increase in Christian music

00:21:06.340 streams over the last five years. Allie.

00:21:08.000 I think it's the increase in an interest in meaning and fulfillment and specifically Christianity

00:21:14.380 in the satisfaction that Jesus Christ brings, but also Christian artists are making really good music.

00:21:20.360 I went to a Forrest Frank concert with my husband and our oldest daughter who is six. And let me tell

00:21:25.820 you, it's not only that the Holy Spirit was present. There was a beautiful night of worship,

00:21:30.120 but it was also genuinely a good experience. And so I'm just so thankful to see this collision

00:21:36.640 of awesome talent and a desire to glorify God. Honestly, praise God that people are starting to

00:21:43.320 listen to things that aren't degenerate and awful and ugly and shallow.

00:21:48.580 So I just thought that was sweet of him to share. Now, some of the comments, unfortunately,

00:21:53.920 were like, Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk and Alice Stucky. He wasn't making any kind of political

00:22:00.700 statement. I'm sure he didn't know at all who I was. Maybe he knew who Charlie Kirk was. So people

00:22:06.640 can just pipe down about that. But truly, I am so grateful to see this collision. I really am. There

00:22:14.540 are people who are just so talented. They're using that talent for the glory of God. And that is what we

00:22:20.860 want. And I am so thankful for every artist who says, I want to not only do Christian music,

00:22:27.800 but I want it to be excellent. I want it to be really good. While at the same time understanding,

00:22:33.180 and I'm not saying that any of those artists don't understand this, but just a reminder for

00:22:37.680 all of us that mainstream approval is not the measure of our approval before God. That just because

00:22:45.640 whatever you are doing is not gaining more popularity or isn't getting the platform,

00:22:50.640 that you want it to, or is not crossing into the mainstream in whatever realm that you're in,

00:22:56.260 that doesn't mean that God is not giving you favor. That does not mean that God doesn't approve

00:23:01.140 of what you're doing. That doesn't mean that you're not giving glory to God. There are millions and

00:23:05.900 millions of moments that happen among Christians every day that are unseen and unsung and will never

00:23:11.540 make headlines and will never get any approval by the mainstream that God is looking down and saying,

00:23:16.860 yes, well done, my good and faithful servant. So just understand that we're happy when Christianity

00:23:22.000 is seen in the mainstream because we want more people to come to Christ and God can use that as a

00:23:27.060 megaphone. Also understand that he uses your seemingly small obedience to bring people to himself and that

00:23:36.440 God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch, no matter what is going on in the news,

00:23:44.240 what is going on in politics, and we can trust in that and rest in that. All right, this is going to be a little

00:23:51.120 bit of a jarring transition, Brie, because for some reason my team keeps bringing me these stories that are

00:23:57.940 very disturbing. So I wanted to start with something happy and positive before we get into this next story

00:24:04.400 about reborn dolls. But it's an important story because now it's hit the mainstream media. Now it's in the

00:24:12.360 Wall Street Journal. Previously, they were just these weird TikToks about people who have these very

00:24:17.980 realistic babies. And people ask me, Ali, why do you care about this? Why do you talk about this if

00:24:22.320 it's making people happy? I will tell you why I care about it and show you we got a lot of work to do

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00:26:12.740 Okay, Brie, what is going on with the realistic baby doll world? I feel like you must follow it because

00:26:22.080 you're always the one that's sending me the TikToks to react to. This has actually become

00:26:27.540 a thing now, according to the Wall Street Journal. Yeah. First of all, to clear the air. I don't have

00:26:34.400 one of these dolls. I've never bought one of these dolls. No, oh my gosh. That would be grounds for,

00:26:39.640 can I say that? Grounds for five? Yeah, I couldn't work here anymore. Yeah, no, they,

00:26:46.100 I guess my algorithm thinks that I'm one of those people, which is also offensive. No,

00:26:50.060 it's just because you probably clicked on one and now they're like, she loves it. She loves it.

00:26:56.100 And you know what? I do because I show them to you every time I see one. Yeah, no, these are dolls

00:27:01.380 that are like very expensive. The Wall Street Journal posted this article basically revealing

00:27:07.360 how lucrative this industry is. Before, I just thought it was kind of a thing that some people

00:27:12.960 did, but it's like really a whole industry. There are like expos, conferences specifically about

00:27:19.700 these kinds of dolls. Yeah, that's a, that's a one table at the, what's it called? The Dolls of the

00:27:26.580 World Expo. And so it's this huge conference where people go and like buy dolls and look at what people

00:27:34.260 have created. So. I never thought that I'd be the kind of person who is now saying, just get it,

00:27:39.580 just get a dog. Just get a cat. Just get it. You can get a pit bull if you want to. I would

00:27:44.900 rather you do that. I think. Yes, I would. I would rather you do that than get the reborn doll.

00:27:51.180 It's bad to replace your, replace kids with pets. It's bad to elevate pets to the level of human,

00:27:59.340 but at least they are animate. Yeah. At least they have brains and they can have emotion and you can

00:28:05.080 have a real bond. But when we're talking about an inanimate object, I mean, we are talking about

00:28:11.040 real true idolatry in some cases. And I know some people are going to say, no, no, no, you're taking

00:28:15.840 it too far. That's not what this is. This is just making people happy. It's not happy and it's not

00:28:22.080 harming anyone. I beg to differ. Okay. Let me get into the story. Why is it being reported by the

00:28:27.200 Wall Street Journal? As Bree said, this is no longer just like a trend that you see random people do on

00:28:33.520 TikTok. This is an entire industry. What does this say about our hearts and our souls? The state

00:28:41.000 of our nation. The Wall Street Journal published this article on the reborn doll community on July

00:28:47.160 23rd. It's titled, Why People Are Buying $8,000. Lifelike Baby Dolls Do Not Tell Me People Aren't

00:28:54.680 Having Kids Because They Can't Afford It. Okay. Not only this, but we also see people paying thousands

00:28:59.920 and thousands of dollars to keep their 13-year-old shih tzus alive. Okay. It is not because people can't

00:29:07.620 afford to have kids. It is a matter of priorities. It is a matter of culture. So reborn dolls are

00:29:13.620 hyper-realistic baby dolls, sometimes costing up to $10,000 that are often treated by their owners

00:29:19.140 as real infants. The reborn doll phenomenon started in the early 2000s has recently become a worldwide

00:29:25.860 trend. Collectors consider themselves parents and range in age from small children to senior citizens,

00:29:32.780 not the dolls, but the collectors, right? There's not like reborn old people, right? I sure hope not,

00:29:39.040 but there are reborn toddlers. Okay. I'm disturbed. There are even expos and conventions celebrating the

00:29:45.460 hobby, including the Dolls of the World Expo that took place in June with 1,500 attendees at a

00:29:51.000 convention center in Greensboro, North Carolina. We already put up that picture. We can put up the

00:29:56.000 picture again, just so we can talk about it. Like you can see how realistic this is. And a lot of

00:30:04.440 the people, I do see like a child in the picture, but it looks like a lot of the people looking that

00:30:08.700 they are, um, that they're grownups. We're not talking about, like, I remember when I was little,

00:30:14.800 we had those baby dolls that felt like real babies. They were heavy and they looked realistic.

00:30:19.780 I mean, these look really, really real. The dolls are made in a labor-intensive process,

00:30:25.100 which is part of the reason for the hefty price tag. According to WSJ, many of the artists are

00:30:29.660 women who work in home studios, who hand paint the dolls veins, root individual hairs, and use

00:30:35.580 expensive materials like silicone and glass eyes to make the dolls lifelike. Supplies for one doll

00:30:40.720 can cost more than $500. You add the labor on top of that, but you're still, if you're selling it for

00:30:46.100 $8,000, you are making a good profit. Collectors argue that the dolls can be therapeutic for women who

00:30:51.480 have lost babies or suffered miscarriages. But according to the Wall Street Journal,

00:30:55.240 some of the collectors have real children and grandchildren. I don't think that this is a form

00:31:00.100 of redemption and therapy for people who have lost or who have struggled with infertility. In fact,

00:31:05.840 I know it's not because it is a fake replacement for something that is real. And it is a fake bomb for a real

00:31:15.340 deep wound. I couldn't even say that it's like putting a band-aid on a head gash. I would say

00:31:23.180 it's like doing something harmful to it. I don't even know. Putting dirt in it, making it worse. I

00:31:30.460 actually think that you are creating an infection that is going to infest your heart and your soul

00:31:35.800 by trying to attach to and put hope and belonging into an inanimate object. That will only lead to

00:31:45.000 further heartbreak because at some point the humanity inside you, the conscience you have,

00:31:51.440 the real grief you're feeling will collide with the reality that this is not a real person who is not

00:31:57.760 living, who is not growing, who does not depend upon you. It is okay to have that feeling of loss. It is

00:32:04.180 okay to feel immense pain. I think it's even okay to be tempted to see, will this fill that void?

00:32:13.260 I understand where that feeling comes from, but this is asking an object to do that which it never

00:32:21.420 can. And I disagree with this assertion that it hurts no one. I think it's bad for your soul and I

00:32:28.260 care for people's souls. And by the way, if people can replace a real child that has needs, that has

00:32:36.440 demands, that requires sacrifice and discomfort and inconvenience and creates growth in the individual

00:32:45.160 and causes us to reorder society to protect this very vulnerable and helpless person, if people can

00:32:51.880 just skirt all of that in favor of this object that is cute and that you can play with, but that you can

00:32:59.640 toss aside whenever you don't want it anymore, then we've got a problem that creates disorder.

00:33:09.460 I would say that successful and healthy societies are ordered around caring for the most vulnerable.

00:33:16.260 I'm not talking about a welfare state, that the welfare state has to take money from those who have

00:33:22.220 and forcibly give it to the have-nots. I'm not talking necessarily about politics primarily.

00:33:30.400 I'm talking about how we order our communities, how we order our own lives, our own churches,

00:33:35.840 how we create these systems of care, what we sacrifice for, whom we sacrifice for.

00:33:43.660 It is healthy when we sacrifice for, give dignity to, and care for those who can't help themselves,

00:33:49.860 babies and children and older people and the vulnerable. It is disordered when we say, well,

00:33:57.900 we are actually going to sacrifice the needs of children on behalf of adult desires, which we see

00:34:03.800 in so many different ways. And in this way, I think people are ignoring their responsibility to care

00:34:11.700 for real children, whether they're their own children or they're orphans or they're poor children

00:34:16.240 or they're foster children or children who need help in some other way because they are pouring all

00:34:21.140 their resources and their time into these fake things. Okay, this is real. This is how people are

00:34:27.980 ordering their lives and spending their time and money while they're actual children who need our help.

00:34:32.800 Sot too.

00:34:41.700 Sot too.

00:35:03.880 That is very frightening to me.

00:35:22.120 And this is, I would say, a form of worship.

00:35:27.560 And therefore, I do believe that it's a form of idolatry.

00:35:31.020 And you might ask, well, what's the difference in spending this time and this energy on a real person?

00:35:35.900 If it's the same amount of time and energy spent, then how is one idolatry?

00:35:40.880 And then when you're taking care of a real child, it's not.

00:35:43.780 Because taking care of a real child is stewardship.

00:35:46.740 It's responsibility.

00:35:48.100 It's doing something that has to be done.

00:35:50.620 It is taking care of a gift that God has given you, a real soul that will live forever in one of two places.

00:35:58.580 Your responsibility for that child, for their physical and spiritual well-being, has both a temporal and eternal impact.

00:36:07.360 But the care and the resources and the time and the energy given to an inanimate object, it is a dead end.

00:36:14.560 And therefore, it is wasting the one precious life that you have as a person.

00:36:21.140 We are not put on this earth just to feel good, just to gain pleasure, just to fill our own voids, just to have all of our desires and even some of our needs met.

00:36:33.220 That is not why we've been put on earth.

00:36:35.040 We have been put on earth to glorify God and to love other people, to make better the space that we occupy, this tiny speck of eternity on which God has providentially placed us.

00:36:46.680 We are called to make it better for the glory of God and for the good of other people.

00:36:53.140 This is the opposite of this.

00:36:54.980 This is consumerism.

00:36:57.220 This is materialism.

00:36:58.700 This is self-service.

00:37:00.440 This is operating in a way that really only cares about the self.

00:37:06.760 And I simply don't think loss is a justification for this.

00:37:12.340 Here is top three.

00:37:13.120 A little bit of sun is what I need

00:37:18.820 A little bit of air so I can breathe

00:37:23.340 I just need a distraction from all of the madness

00:37:28.280 It's all that I'm asking

00:37:30.740 I just want a little sun

00:37:36.180 Oh, I just want some sun

00:37:42.460 We come from the stars

00:37:46.240 But we got it

00:37:49.340 So this is simply not a healthy way to cope with that kind of pain.

00:37:57.980 I was thinking about this first

00:38:00.960 I was looking for it as that video is playing

00:38:03.060 About how idols are mute

00:38:05.440 They can't hear your prayers

00:38:06.900 And they can't hear

00:38:09.100 And they can't speak

00:38:10.240 And they can't feel

00:38:11.920 And I was thinking of 1 Corinthians 12, 2

00:38:15.400 You know that when you were pagans

00:38:17.660 You were led astray

00:38:19.600 To mute idols

00:38:21.660 That when you were pagans

00:38:23.120 You were led astray to mute idols

00:38:26.020 This is how paganism works

00:38:27.940 It elevates the inanimate

00:38:29.420 It elevates those who are not made in the image of God

00:38:32.560 So plants, animals

00:38:34.340 And when we worship these objects

00:38:36.420 The creature rather than the creator

00:38:38.540 God himself who is blessed forever

00:38:40.300 Amen

00:38:40.740 Romans 1

00:38:41.580 Everything becomes disordered

00:38:43.760 In our own lives

00:38:45.980 And also in society as a whole

00:38:49.160 Didn't you say, Bri, that in Brazil

00:38:52.060 This is becoming so popular

00:38:53.920 That people are actually taking babies

00:38:56.220 To the hospital

00:38:57.820 To get care

00:38:59.360 And that Brazilian law

00:39:00.720 Is now having to say

00:39:01.780 Please stop

00:39:02.500 Yeah, there were a couple cases

00:39:04.580 There was one case where

00:39:05.960 This didn't have to do with the hospital

00:39:08.520 But there was a guy who

00:39:09.860 I guess got frustrated

00:39:11.340 Because he thought

00:39:12.380 That one of the babies near him

00:39:14.260 Was a reborn doll

00:39:15.300 And he like hid it

00:39:16.540 And it was a real baby

00:39:17.840 What?

00:39:18.500 And so now

00:39:19.180 I guess that's how prevalent

00:39:20.240 They are in Brazil

00:39:21.360 So now there's legislation about that

00:39:24.540 And then, yeah

00:39:25.420 There were

00:39:25.960 There's

00:39:26.700 I mean, I only heard one story

00:39:28.680 But there, I think, are others as well

00:39:30.340 If there's legislation

00:39:31.200 Now being talked about

00:39:32.200 But of a woman who went

00:39:33.660 And took her reborn doll

00:39:35.000 To the hospital

00:39:35.660 To try to get it help

00:39:36.840 She said that the baby

00:39:38.300 Was in, quote, a lot of pain

00:39:40.840 Even though, obviously, it's not real

00:39:42.760 And her family actually took her

00:39:45.420 To, like, a mental institution

00:39:46.940 After that

00:39:47.540 The hospital obviously couldn't do anything

00:39:49.380 For a fake baby

00:39:50.780 So, yeah

00:39:52.740 Now Brazil

00:39:53.620 The Brazilian government

00:39:54.620 Is talking about legislation

00:39:56.380 To ban healthcare for fake babies

00:39:59.380 Oh my gosh

00:40:00.320 Oh, yeah

00:40:01.120 What in the world?

00:40:02.400 We have come to such a dark place

00:40:04.000 Okay, I did not know this

00:40:05.380 That Britney Spears

00:40:06.580 She posted about

00:40:08.740 Basically a reborn doll

00:40:10.040 And acted like it was

00:40:11.500 She was having a real baby in 2021

00:40:13.580 Like she carried this baby around

00:40:15.440 Said she was going to take time off

00:40:16.940 To be with her baby

00:40:18.240 And, like, decorate her nursery

00:40:19.940 Yeah

00:40:20.680 And she has had a miscarriage

00:40:23.680 And so some people attribute it to that

00:40:26.020 She posted about it

00:40:28.580 Before that happened, I think

00:40:29.780 So I'm not sure about the timeline

00:40:31.160 But, yeah

00:40:32.340 And then just recently

00:40:33.360 Like, last

00:40:34.260 In the last two months

00:40:35.640 She was also seen with, like,

00:40:37.140 A bodyguard

00:40:37.780 Or someone in her entourage

00:40:39.100 Who was also carrying a fake baby

00:40:41.120 With her

00:40:41.860 So I don't know

00:40:43.240 If it's an ongoing thing

00:40:44.340 But that seems to be

00:40:45.760 See, case in point

00:40:47.440 This is, like, a mental health issue

00:40:50.100 But it's also a spiritual issue

00:40:51.340 I also think

00:40:52.380 Okay, so on the one side

00:40:53.500 I guess you have women

00:40:54.460 That are relying on these dolls

00:40:58.060 To fill something

00:41:00.160 I mean, again

00:41:01.120 I think it's healthier

00:41:01.900 To use plants and pets

00:41:03.980 To replace kids

00:41:05.080 Although I think that's

00:41:06.100 Obviously so unhealthy

00:41:07.060 I've been talking about that

00:41:07.980 For a very long time

00:41:08.860 Writing about that for a long time

00:41:10.540 But we've gotten to this place

00:41:11.680 Of spiritual darkness

00:41:12.600 And I'm like, okay

00:41:13.240 Can we just go backwards

00:41:14.180 A couple steps?

00:41:15.000 Oh my goodness

00:41:15.720 But on the other side of that

00:41:18.800 You've got men

00:41:19.760 Using these sex dolls

00:41:21.880 And these sex robots

00:41:23.340 Who are also replacing

00:41:25.600 Real relationship

00:41:26.400 You've got these teenagers

00:41:27.620 Who are building relationships

00:41:29.980 Even romantic relationships

00:41:31.680 With AI chatbots

00:41:33.620 I think this, like, convergence

00:41:36.300 That we've talked about

00:41:37.500 On this show

00:41:38.980 Where, like, robot

00:41:40.820 AI

00:41:41.780 Not real life

00:41:44.940 Is converging with real life

00:41:46.480 So fast

00:41:47.160 That we don't know

00:41:48.340 Even

00:41:49.360 Like, we don't even know

00:41:50.780 What to do

00:41:51.480 And I don't even

00:41:53.540 I don't even know

00:41:54.640 What analysis to give you

00:41:55.880 Of that

00:41:56.160 This is right out

00:41:57.000 Of a dystopian novel

00:41:58.160 If you have not read

00:41:59.780 Brave New World

00:42:00.620 1984 gets a lot of credit

00:42:02.480 For prophesying

00:42:03.960 About the future

00:42:04.800 Brave New World

00:42:05.580 Might be more accurate

00:42:07.080 You read what Huxley wrote

00:42:09.540 However many decades ago

00:42:12.880 I guess probably 70

00:42:14.560 Almost 80 years ago now

00:42:16.820 And you see

00:42:18.060 That he saw

00:42:19.160 The direction we were going

00:42:20.520 Far before the computer

00:42:22.280 Was ever made

00:42:23.540 Oh my goodness

00:42:24.280 This is what I want

00:42:25.980 To remind you

00:42:26.640 In the midst of all of this

00:42:27.760 The realest

00:42:28.700 Truest reality

00:42:29.880 That exists

00:42:30.700 Is that you

00:42:31.460 Were made

00:42:32.260 By a God

00:42:33.040 Who is in charge

00:42:34.200 Who saw all of this

00:42:35.640 Before any of it

00:42:37.080 Ever happened

00:42:38.200 That he is not limited

00:42:39.620 By time or space

00:42:40.600 Nothing surprises him

00:42:41.640 Nothing takes him aback

00:42:42.920 Nothing catches him

00:42:44.520 Off guard

00:42:45.000 He is never looking down

00:42:46.140 And wondering

00:42:46.600 How did we get here

00:42:47.800 He is suspended

00:42:48.640 In the eternal now

00:42:49.960 And he is always

00:42:51.180 Working everything together

00:42:52.740 For the good

00:42:53.580 Of those who love him

00:42:55.100 That is always going on

00:42:56.960 When you don't know

00:42:58.240 How the heck

00:42:59.140 We got here

00:42:59.620 Culturally or morally

00:43:00.780 When it seems like

00:43:01.900 We're going to hell

00:43:02.520 In a handbasket

00:43:03.220 Or even when it seems

00:43:04.220 Like things are going

00:43:05.260 Really well

00:43:06.640 And everything

00:43:07.880 Is coming together

00:43:09.040 The truth is

00:43:10.100 That the realest reality

00:43:11.520 Is that there is

00:43:12.900 A God who created us

00:43:14.060 Who sent his son

00:43:14.960 To die for us

00:43:15.800 And that eternal

00:43:16.840 Plan of redemption

00:43:17.560 Is always going off

00:43:19.000 Without a hitch

00:43:20.140 I would say

00:43:21.220 If you are caught

00:43:22.040 In any of this

00:43:23.060 Where you are putting

00:43:23.880 Your trust

00:43:24.600 And you are finding

00:43:25.640 Satisfaction

00:43:26.440 And acceptance

00:43:27.280 And fulfillment

00:43:28.020 From anything

00:43:29.500 Other than Christ

00:43:30.880 Who died for you

00:43:32.140 Then it's time

00:43:32.820 For you to turn

00:43:33.580 It's time for you

00:43:34.760 To repent

00:43:35.500 Whatever you are seeking

00:43:37.040 Whether it is the bottle

00:43:38.160 Whether it's pills

00:43:38.880 Whether it's money

00:43:39.680 Whether it's fame

00:43:40.300 Whether it's materialism

00:43:41.240 Whether it's a reborn doll

00:43:42.280 Whether it's a sex robot

00:43:43.280 Whether it is AI

00:43:44.400 Whatever you are turning to

00:43:46.840 To find the love

00:43:48.300 That you are longing for

00:43:49.680 You need to turn away

00:43:50.860 From it

00:43:51.200 Because it is going

00:43:51.920 To lead you to death

00:43:52.840 And dissatisfaction

00:43:54.320 And ultimately damnation

00:43:56.100 That is the true reality here

00:43:57.900 All of this stuff matters

00:43:59.500 Because Satan is using

00:44:01.380 Every way he can

00:44:02.360 To vie for the throne

00:44:03.680 Of our hearts

00:44:04.340 And there is only one

00:44:05.740 Who belongs there

00:44:06.900 Maybe you are thinking

00:44:07.580 I'm making too big

00:44:08.700 Of a deal of this

00:44:09.400 But I really see this

00:44:10.860 As really really dark idolatry

00:44:13.120 And so I think

00:44:14.620 That we just have to

00:44:15.240 Call it out

00:44:15.760 For what it is

00:44:16.720 All right

00:44:17.400 We've got another

00:44:18.160 Really important story

00:44:19.180 This time it's coming out

00:44:20.200 Of the health

00:44:20.720 And human services department

00:44:21.980 And this has to do

00:44:23.500 With organ donation

00:44:24.900 Organ donation

00:44:25.900 Can be really good

00:44:26.920 Really redemptive

00:44:27.920 But there is a scary

00:44:29.000 Dark side of it

00:44:29.840 That I really want

00:44:30.760 All of us to know

00:44:31.540 I know that this is now

00:44:32.520 A little bit of a longer episode

00:44:33.800 Because we had so much

00:44:34.920 To talk about

00:44:35.520 We had some high highs

00:44:36.660 We got some low lows

00:44:37.740 And we've got

00:44:38.620 A little bit of scary

00:44:39.680 But also some good

00:44:41.800 And hopeful

00:44:42.920 In this last segment

00:44:44.720 That we are going to have

00:44:45.900 With an HHS representative

00:44:47.340 And that is

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00:45:44.740 Dr. Lynch

00:45:50.280 Thanks so much

00:45:50.980 For taking the time

00:45:51.840 To join us

00:45:52.620 Before we get started

00:45:53.680 On this conversation

00:45:54.600 Can you tell us

00:45:55.640 About your role

00:45:56.740 At HHS

00:45:57.820 Sure

00:45:59.560 So I'm chief

00:46:00.960 Of the organ transplant branch

00:46:02.420 At HRSA

00:46:03.260 That's the

00:46:03.880 Health Resources

00:46:04.600 And Services Administration

00:46:05.980 Which is an agency

00:46:06.920 Within HHS

00:46:07.880 And so

00:46:09.000 HRSA's role here

00:46:10.520 Is that we oversee

00:46:11.420 This public-private partnership

00:46:13.240 Which means that

00:46:14.140 It's the outside

00:46:15.560 Entities

00:46:16.780 The hospitals

00:46:17.740 That do the transplants

00:46:18.960 The things called

00:46:20.340 OPOs

00:46:21.260 Organ procurement organizations

00:46:23.340 Who are the federally designated

00:46:25.380 Entities that recover

00:46:27.240 These organs

00:46:28.080 And then the

00:46:29.580 Labs that help with that

00:46:31.080 And we have

00:46:31.620 A lucky

00:46:32.300 We have

00:46:33.680 A large number

00:46:34.580 Of patient

00:46:35.060 And family

00:46:35.600 Volunteers

00:46:36.320 HRSA oversees

00:46:37.740 That to help

00:46:38.380 The OPTN

00:46:39.280 Make the

00:46:40.560 Policies

00:46:41.680 And monitor

00:46:42.500 Adherence to them

00:46:43.340 That keep

00:46:43.800 The system safe

00:46:44.700 Gotcha

00:46:45.660 And

00:46:46.660 Secretary Kennedy

00:46:48.480 Announced

00:46:49.380 An investigation

00:46:50.880 That is leading

00:46:51.860 To reforms

00:46:53.000 When it comes

00:46:53.960 To organ

00:46:55.060 Transplants

00:46:55.800 Can you talk

00:46:56.840 About what

00:46:57.580 Sparked that

00:46:58.300 Investigation

00:46:59.180 And what reforms

00:47:00.100 Are being made

00:47:00.840 Yeah

00:47:02.540 So

00:47:03.020 The system

00:47:04.300 Has been the subject

00:47:05.120 Of congressional

00:47:05.960 Review

00:47:06.440 For a number

00:47:07.000 Of years

00:47:07.480 And we actually

00:47:08.900 Had a major

00:47:09.900 Kind of

00:47:10.420 Epoch-defining

00:47:11.460 Change in the law

00:47:12.620 In 2023

00:47:13.320 So

00:47:13.940 The

00:47:14.860 Oversight and

00:47:16.120 Investigation

00:47:16.740 Subcommittee

00:47:17.340 Of the Energy

00:47:18.100 And Commerce

00:47:18.840 Committee

00:47:19.500 Within the house

00:47:20.200 They held

00:47:21.040 A one-year

00:47:22.040 Sort of

00:47:22.380 Post

00:47:22.800 Change in the law

00:47:24.380 Follow-up

00:47:25.040 Hearing

00:47:26.160 In September

00:47:26.980 Of last year

00:47:27.720 During that

00:47:28.620 There was a very

00:47:29.140 Concerning

00:47:29.660 Allegation made

00:47:30.680 And in

00:47:31.680 Follow-up

00:47:32.240 To that

00:47:32.960 HRSA

00:47:34.260 Directed that

00:47:35.200 There be a

00:47:35.620 Much more

00:47:36.020 Sweeping

00:47:36.540 Review

00:47:37.060 Of cases

00:47:37.720 That were

00:47:38.060 Handled

00:47:38.380 By this

00:47:38.780 One

00:47:39.060 OPO

00:47:39.940 And what

00:47:41.560 Was the

00:47:41.900 Law that

00:47:42.280 Changed

00:47:42.560 In 2023

00:47:43.340 Yeah

00:47:44.920 So the

00:47:45.360 Law was

00:47:45.940 Called the

00:47:46.500 Securing

00:47:47.000 The US

00:47:47.540 OPTN

00:47:48.260 Act

00:47:48.580 And it

00:47:49.140 Was a

00:47:49.500 Really

00:47:49.780 Badly

00:47:50.180 Needed

00:47:50.580 Update

00:47:51.060 To a

00:47:51.440 40-year-old

00:47:52.080 Law

00:47:52.360 That actually

00:47:52.840 Set up

00:47:53.260 The entire

00:47:53.700 System

00:47:54.120 So in

00:47:55.020 1984

00:47:55.740 For the

00:47:56.840 National Organ

00:47:57.740 Transplant Act

00:47:58.600 Is how we

00:47:59.220 Created the

00:47:59.960 System by

00:48:00.420 Which organs

00:48:00.880 Are allocated

00:48:01.580 There aren't

00:48:02.940 Enough organs

00:48:03.560 For everybody

00:48:04.260 And so

00:48:05.120 Deciding who

00:48:06.120 Gets an organ

00:48:06.760 Is a really

00:48:07.760 Critical step

00:48:08.760 It's something

00:48:09.180 That you

00:48:09.500 Have to

00:48:09.780 Bring

00:48:09.980 Together

00:48:10.300 People

00:48:10.580 From the

00:48:10.940 Medical

00:48:11.260 And the

00:48:11.600 Surgical

00:48:11.880 Side

00:48:12.320 Patient

00:48:12.940 And family

00:48:13.420 Reps

00:48:13.940 Ethicists

00:48:15.020 And doing

00:48:15.800 That in a

00:48:16.360 Controlled

00:48:16.880 And reliable

00:48:17.540 Way was why

00:48:18.260 We needed

00:48:18.760 NODA

00:48:19.100 Back in

00:48:19.560 1984

00:48:20.240 The

00:48:21.600 Transplant

00:48:22.100 System

00:48:22.440 Grew

00:48:22.760 The

00:48:23.120 Science

00:48:23.500 Grew

00:48:23.780 The

00:48:24.000 Clinical

00:48:24.380 Work

00:48:24.980 Grew

00:48:25.300 But the

00:48:25.740 Law

00:48:25.960 Didn't

00:48:26.520 And so

00:48:26.920 By

00:48:27.180 2023

00:48:27.880 It was

00:48:28.380 Pretty

00:48:28.640 Outdated

00:48:29.160 And we

00:48:29.560 Needed

00:48:29.900 That

00:48:30.200 Change

00:48:30.760 And what

00:48:31.480 Were

00:48:31.620 Some

00:48:31.820 Of

00:48:31.940 The

00:48:32.060 Updates

00:48:32.660 Made

00:48:33.300 Because

00:48:33.840 Of

00:48:33.980 That

00:48:34.100 Law

00:48:34.360 The

00:48:36.160 Biggest

00:48:36.460 One

00:48:38.760 This

00:48:39.060 System

00:48:39.460 So

00:48:39.760 Historically

00:48:40.520 It was

00:48:40.800 Set up

00:48:41.140 That there

00:48:41.400 Could only

00:48:41.740 Be one

00:48:42.260 Contractor

00:48:43.020 For the

00:48:43.360 OPTN

00:48:43.940 And that

00:48:44.240 Needed

00:48:44.580 To be

00:48:44.840 A

00:48:45.000 Nonprofit

00:48:45.700 Organization

00:48:46.440 With

00:48:46.860 Experience

00:48:47.940 In

00:48:48.900 Transplant

00:48:49.580 And so

00:48:49.980 That

00:48:50.180 Ended up

00:48:50.640 Being

00:48:50.840 A

00:48:51.020 Self-fulfilling

00:48:52.200 Proposition

00:48:53.580 That there

00:48:53.940 Was only

00:48:54.280 One

00:48:54.700 Contractor

00:48:56.120 Who ever

00:48:56.540 Held that

00:48:56.940 Role

00:48:57.160 For 40

00:48:57.680 Years

00:48:58.080 The

00:48:58.700 New

00:48:59.040 Law

00:48:59.360 Changed

00:48:59.840 It

00:49:00.120 So

00:49:00.400 That

00:49:00.740 We

00:49:01.660 Could

00:49:01.800 Have

00:49:02.020 Multiple

00:49:02.440 Vendors

00:49:03.020 Meaning

00:49:03.260 Multiple

00:49:03.580 Contractors

00:49:04.300 In the

00:49:04.580 Space

00:49:04.900 Each

00:49:05.560 Attending

00:49:06.000 To

00:49:06.220 An

00:49:06.380 Area

00:49:06.660 In

00:49:06.860 Which

00:49:07.040 They

00:49:07.200 Had

00:49:07.340 Expertise

00:49:08.000 It

00:49:08.560 Also

00:49:08.840 Allowed

00:49:09.260 The

00:49:09.640 Government

00:49:10.700 To

00:49:11.140 Have

00:49:11.560 A

00:49:11.960 More

00:49:12.240 Independent

00:49:12.880 Board

00:49:13.400 Take

00:49:13.660 A

00:49:13.800 Role

00:49:14.000 Here

00:49:14.240 Because

00:49:14.600 Historically

00:49:15.640 The

00:49:16.380 Board

00:49:16.740 Of

00:49:16.920 That

00:49:17.100 Contractor

00:49:17.900 Was

00:49:18.380 The

00:49:18.580 Board

00:49:18.900 Of

00:49:19.140 The

00:49:19.320 OPTN

00:49:19.960 The

00:49:20.200 Government

00:49:20.980 Sponsored

00:49:21.620 Entity

00:49:22.080 And so

00:49:22.880 This

00:49:23.180 Created

00:49:23.700 An

00:49:23.880 Independent

00:49:24.460 Group

00:49:25.060 That

00:49:25.440 Would

00:49:25.660 Provide

00:49:26.180 More

00:49:26.580 Objective

00:49:27.220 Oversight

00:49:28.160 It

00:49:28.560 Also

00:49:28.820 Increased

00:49:29.380 Our

00:49:29.780 Appropriations

00:49:31.040 Inside

00:49:31.580 HRSA

00:49:31.940 To

00:49:32.180 Allow

00:49:32.580 Us

00:49:32.880 To

00:49:33.320 Bring

00:49:33.600 In

00:49:33.780 More

00:49:34.040 Expertise

00:49:34.780 I

00:49:35.280 Am

00:49:35.400 One

00:49:35.560 Of

00:49:35.660 The

00:49:35.780 People

00:49:36.040 Who

00:49:36.300 Was

00:49:36.540 Able

00:49:36.800 To

00:49:37.080 Join

00:49:37.680 As

00:49:37.940 A

00:49:38.040 Part

00:49:38.240 Of

00:49:38.340 That

00:49:38.500 So

00:49:38.700 That

00:49:38.820 We

00:49:38.940 Have

00:49:39.060 Subject

00:49:39.400 Matter

00:49:39.640 Expertise

00:49:40.260 More

00:49:40.840 Contract

00:49:41.280 Help

00:49:41.700 Basically

00:49:42.680 Everything

00:49:43.120 We

00:49:43.360 Need

00:49:43.520 To

00:49:43.680 Do

00:49:43.880 To

00:49:44.080 Provide

00:49:44.400 Good

00:49:44.600 Management

00:49:45.060 And

00:49:45.280 Oversight

00:49:45.760 On

00:49:46.920 On

00:49:46.940 July

00:49:47.260 21st

00:49:48.480 The

00:49:48.860 HHS

00:49:49.600 Released

00:49:50.360 The

00:49:50.620 Statement

00:49:51.180 That

00:49:51.580 Announced

00:49:52.060 It

00:49:52.280 Will

00:49:52.460 Begin

00:49:52.960 Reforming

00:49:53.620 The

00:49:53.760 Organ

00:49:54.040 Transplant

00:49:54.620 System

00:49:55.200 Following

00:49:56.240 The

00:49:56.600 HRSA

00:49:56.940 Investigation

00:49:58.040 The

00:49:58.280 Investigation

00:49:58.980 Revealed

00:49:59.580 That

00:49:59.940 A

00:50:00.460 Major

00:50:00.740 Organ

00:50:01.140 Procurement

00:50:01.700 Organization

00:50:02.380 That's

00:50:02.820 OPO

00:50:03.580 In

00:50:04.380 Kentucky

00:50:05.700 Southwest

00:50:06.160 Ohio

00:50:06.600 And

00:50:06.920 Part

00:50:07.260 Of

00:50:07.520 West

00:50:07.920 Virginia

00:50:08.480 They

00:50:09.260 Had

00:50:09.480 Begun

00:50:10.180 Organ

00:50:10.660 Procurement

00:50:11.360 On

00:50:11.600 Some

00:50:11.960 Patients

00:50:12.680 That

00:50:12.900 Were

00:50:13.040 Showing

00:50:13.560 Signs

00:50:14.040 Of

00:50:14.220 Life

00:50:14.600 Obviously

00:50:15.500 This

00:50:15.880 Is

00:50:16.060 The

00:50:16.260 Nightmare

00:50:16.880 Scenario

00:50:17.460 Some

00:50:18.260 People

00:50:18.640 Have

00:50:19.500 Heard

00:50:20.720 Stories

00:50:21.180 Like

00:50:21.900 This

00:50:22.320 Reported

00:50:22.880 In

00:50:23.120 The

00:50:23.240 News

00:50:23.600 That

00:50:23.920 Someone

00:50:24.360 That

00:50:24.780 The

00:50:25.460 Doctors

00:50:25.900 Thought

00:50:26.320 Was

00:50:27.220 Dead

00:50:27.580 Was

00:50:27.840 Actually

00:50:28.160 Not

00:50:28.480 Dead

00:50:28.860 And

00:50:29.060 They

00:50:29.220 Began

00:50:29.760 Preparing

00:50:30.800 Them

00:50:31.060 To

00:50:31.260 Harvest

00:50:31.780 Their

00:50:32.120 Organs

00:50:32.740 And

00:50:33.040 So

00:50:33.380 I

00:50:33.980 Mean

00:50:34.100 What's

00:50:34.640 What's

00:50:34.920 Going

00:50:35.180 On

00:50:35.500 Here

00:50:35.720 Is

00:50:36.000 This

00:50:36.220 A

00:50:36.400 One

00:50:36.620 Off

00:50:36.820 Case

00:50:37.240 Or

00:50:37.420 Is

00:50:37.620 This

00:50:37.800 Something

00:50:38.180 That

00:50:38.480 Is

00:50:38.660 More

00:50:38.900 Prevalent

00:50:39.400 Than

00:50:39.560 We

00:50:39.680 Would

00:50:39.820 Like

00:50:40.020 To

00:50:40.180 Think

00:50:40.520 So

00:50:42.080 This

00:50:42.300 This

00:50:42.560 Is

00:50:42.760 Highly

00:50:43.220 Concerning

00:50:43.700 And

00:50:43.840 This

00:50:44.000 Is

00:50:44.160 Why

00:50:44.500 You

00:50:44.740 Know

00:50:44.840 Secretary

00:50:45.240 Kennedy

00:50:45.660 Has

00:50:46.300 Taken

00:50:46.900 Such

00:50:47.120 Strong

00:50:47.480 Action

00:50:47.860 And

00:50:48.240 HRSA

00:50:48.820 For

00:50:49.020 The

00:50:49.140 First

00:50:49.340 Time

00:50:49.560 Ever

00:50:49.800 Has

00:50:50.100 Issued

00:50:50.800 A

00:50:50.980 Corrective

00:50:51.400 Action

00:50:51.680 Plan

00:50:51.980 So

00:50:52.640 So

00:50:52.660 The

00:50:52.840 Way

00:50:53.220 That

00:50:53.420 This

00:50:53.680 Kind

00:50:54.020 Of

00:50:54.200 Organ

00:50:54.500 Recovery

00:50:55.000 Occurs

00:50:55.600 Is

00:50:55.800 Something

00:50:56.020 Called

00:50:56.300 Donation

00:50:56.800 After

00:50:57.100 Circulatory

00:50:57.820 Death

00:50:58.160 DCD

00:50:59.080 And

00:50:59.700 In

00:50:59.840 This

00:51:00.020 Case

00:51:00.280 The

00:51:00.560 Person

00:51:01.100 Is

00:51:01.320 Not

00:51:01.580 Legally

00:51:02.060 Dead

00:51:02.460 When

00:51:02.740 The

00:51:02.880 Opio

00:51:03.280 Starts

00:51:03.660 To

00:51:03.800 Get

00:51:03.960 Involved

00:51:04.520 But

00:51:05.200 The

00:51:05.460 Primary

00:51:05.840 Medical

00:51:06.240 Team

00:51:06.540 The

00:51:06.720 Hospital

00:51:07.080 Workers

00:51:07.580 Have

00:51:08.240 Informed

00:51:08.680 The

00:51:08.880 Family

00:51:09.180 That

00:51:09.460 They

00:51:09.620 Think

00:51:09.820 That

00:51:10.040 The

00:51:10.240 Prognosis

00:51:10.940 Meaning

00:51:11.240 That

00:51:11.460 The

00:51:11.580 Person's

00:51:12.000 Chance

00:51:12.400 Of

00:51:12.580 Survival

00:51:13.180 Is

00:51:13.500 Poor

00:51:13.820 Meaning

00:51:14.160 Either

00:51:14.440 They

00:51:14.640 Are

00:51:14.760 Going

00:51:15.020 To

00:51:15.200 Die

00:51:15.420 Or

00:51:15.580 They

00:51:15.720 Will

00:51:15.880 Wake

00:51:16.420 Up

00:51:16.620 And

00:51:17.400 Have

00:51:17.800 Brain

00:51:18.100 Activity

00:51:18.660 At

00:51:19.480 A

00:51:19.620 State

00:51:19.840 That

00:51:20.080 Either

00:51:20.540 The

00:51:20.700 Person

00:51:21.000 Themself

00:51:21.560 Or

00:51:21.820 The

00:51:21.940 Family

00:51:22.260 Knows

00:51:22.640 Would

00:51:22.880 Not

00:51:23.300 Be

00:51:23.480 Their

00:51:23.680 Wishes

00:51:24.020 So

00:51:24.640 In

00:51:24.800 That

00:51:24.980 Case

00:51:25.340 Families

00:51:25.900 Have

00:51:26.180 The

00:51:26.460 Ability

00:51:27.820 To

00:51:28.060 Say

00:51:28.320 We

00:51:29.160 Want

00:51:29.720 To

00:51:29.840 Transition

00:51:30.400 To

00:51:30.660 Providing

00:51:31.080 Comfort

00:51:31.560 And

00:51:31.920 Letting

00:51:32.360 Death

00:51:33.820 Occur

00:51:34.440 Letting

00:51:34.780 The

00:51:34.920 Person

00:51:35.180 Pass

00:51:35.540 Away

00:51:35.860 The

00:51:36.420 OPO

00:51:36.760 Gets

00:51:37.040 Involved

00:51:37.680 There

00:51:37.920 So

00:51:38.480 That

00:51:38.680 When

00:51:38.900 Somebody

00:51:39.240 Passes

00:51:39.760 Away

00:51:39.980 In

00:51:40.120 A

00:51:40.220 Natural

00:51:40.560 Fashion

00:51:41.060 That

00:51:41.860 If

00:51:42.120 It

00:51:42.260 Happens

00:51:42.640 Over

00:51:42.860 A

00:51:43.060 Relatively

00:51:43.480 Short

00:51:43.820 Time

00:51:44.220 After

00:51:44.520 Taking

00:51:44.860 Out

00:51:45.040 The

00:51:45.180 Breathing

00:51:45.480 Tube

00:51:45.780 And

00:51:45.980 Stopping

00:51:46.400 The

00:51:46.540 Other

00:51:46.780 Medical

00:51:47.920 Support

00:51:48.600 That

00:51:49.240 The

00:51:49.400 Organs

00:51:49.760 Can

00:51:49.960 Be

00:51:50.100 Taken

00:51:50.420 Out

00:51:50.600 And

00:51:50.740 For

00:51:51.140 Transplant

00:51:51.680 Gotcha

00:51:53.020 And

00:51:53.800 I

00:51:54.100 Remember

00:51:54.740 If I

00:51:55.020 Remember

00:51:55.260 Correctly

00:51:55.780 The

00:51:59.840 T.J.

00:52:00.300 Hoover

00:52:00.640 In

00:52:01.140 Kentucky

00:52:01.560 Back

00:52:02.040 In

00:52:02.220 2021

00:52:02.820 He

00:52:03.320 Was

00:52:03.460 Admitted

00:52:03.700 To

00:52:03.900 Baptist

00:52:04.200 Health's

00:52:05.100 Emergency

00:52:05.680 Room

00:52:06.100 He

00:52:06.240 Was

00:52:06.380 Unresponsive

00:52:07.060 For

00:52:07.220 Two

00:52:07.460 Days

00:52:07.860 His

00:52:08.120 Family

00:52:08.560 Then

00:52:09.060 Agreed

00:52:09.620 To

00:52:09.780 Donate

00:52:10.100 His

00:52:10.300 Organs

00:52:10.960 And

00:52:11.460 That

00:52:11.600 Was

00:52:11.800 His

00:52:12.280 Wish

00:52:12.760 So

00:52:13.180 He

00:52:13.300 Was

00:52:13.460 Prepped

00:52:13.800 For

00:52:14.000 Organ

00:52:14.280 Donation

00:52:14.700 Surgery

00:52:15.380 But

00:52:16.140 As

00:52:16.480 They

00:52:16.620 Were

00:52:16.740 Prepping

00:52:17.060 Him

00:52:17.280 He

00:52:17.480 Began

00:52:17.920 Thrashing

00:52:18.480 Crying

00:52:18.880 Resisting

00:52:19.500 Showing

00:52:20.340 Signs

00:52:20.980 Of

00:52:21.260 Life

00:52:21.740 The

00:52:22.520 Independent

00:52:22.980 HRSA

00:52:23.940 HRSA

00:52:24.540 Review

00:52:25.080 Found

00:52:25.400 Clear

00:52:25.660 Negligence

00:52:29.840 HRSA

00:52:31.900 Examined

00:52:32.460 351

00:52:33.420 Cases

00:52:33.740 Where

00:52:33.960 Organ

00:52:34.260 Donation

00:52:34.640 Was

00:52:34.840 Authorized

00:52:35.420 But

00:52:35.620 Not

00:52:35.920 Completed

00:52:36.580 Identifying

00:52:37.280 Issues

00:52:37.660 103

00:52:38.140 Cases

00:52:39.080 Of

00:52:39.800 Those

00:52:40.040 73

00:52:40.500 Patients

00:52:40.980 Showed

00:52:41.260 Neurological

00:52:41.940 Signs

00:52:42.400 Incompatible

00:52:43.180 With

00:52:43.380 Organ

00:52:43.780 Donation

00:52:44.380 And

00:52:44.960 28

00:52:45.400 May

00:52:45.860 Not

00:52:46.160 Have

00:52:46.440 Been

00:52:46.660 Deceased

00:52:47.160 When

00:52:47.360 Procurement

00:52:48.000 Began

00:52:48.540 The

00:52:49.100 Investigation

00:52:49.760 Uncovered

00:52:50.280 Poor

00:52:50.560 Neurologic

00:52:51.200 Assessments

00:52:51.820 Lack

00:52:52.460 Of

00:52:52.620 Coordination

00:52:53.120 With

00:52:53.340 Medical

00:52:53.660 Teams

00:52:54.060 Questionable

00:52:55.020 Consent

00:52:55.420 Practices

00:52:56.100 And

00:52:56.420 Misclassified

00:52:57.460 Causes

00:52:58.220 Of

00:52:58.440 Death

00:52:58.700 Especially

00:52:59.380 In

00:52:59.780 Overdose

00:53:00.400 Cases

00:53:01.000 All

00:53:01.700 Right

00:53:01.860 Not

00:53:02.140 To

00:53:02.300 Get

00:53:02.440 Conspiratorial

00:53:03.380 Here

00:53:03.680 That's

00:53:04.700 Very

00:53:05.000 Scary

00:53:05.480 Should

00:53:06.360 We

00:53:06.560 Credit

00:53:06.820 This

00:53:07.060 To

00:53:07.220 Incompetence

00:53:08.360 And

00:53:08.600 Laziness

00:53:09.080 Or

00:53:09.340 Is

00:53:09.480 There

00:53:09.660 Something

00:53:10.140 Else

00:53:10.460 Going

00:53:10.740 On

00:53:10.980 Is

00:53:11.120 There

00:53:11.300 Some

00:53:11.640 Kind

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00:53:12.380 Incentive

00:53:13.900 For

00:53:14.640 These

00:53:15.000 Teams

00:53:15.460 To

00:53:15.720 Not

00:53:16.040 Be

00:53:16.340 As

00:53:16.540 Diligent

00:53:16.940 As

00:53:17.200 They

00:53:17.360 Should

00:53:17.620 Be

00:53:17.920 In

00:53:18.180 Making

00:53:18.460 Sure

00:53:18.800 The

00:53:19.000 Person

00:53:19.280 Is

00:53:19.460 Truly

00:53:19.780 Dead

00:53:20.140 Before

00:53:20.440 Starting

00:53:20.800 This

00:53:21.040 Process

00:53:21.620 So

00:53:23.820 There

00:53:25.120 Are

00:53:25.240 Aspects

00:53:25.660 Of

00:53:25.760 This

00:53:25.920 That

00:53:26.100 Are

00:53:26.260 That

00:53:26.560 Are

00:53:26.740 What

00:53:27.100 HRSA

00:53:27.400 Is

00:53:27.520 Reviewing

00:53:27.940 And

00:53:28.060 There

00:53:28.240 Are

00:53:28.360 Other

00:53:28.560 Aspects

00:53:29.060 That

00:53:29.180 Our

00:53:29.300 Partner

00:53:29.660 Agencies

00:53:30.460 In

00:53:30.620 The

00:53:30.720 Federal

00:53:30.920 Government

00:53:31.300 Are

00:53:31.660 Responsible

00:53:32.340 For

00:53:32.640 I

00:53:33.320 Think

00:53:33.460 The

00:53:33.640 Overwhelming

00:53:34.360 Majority

00:53:35.180 Of

00:53:35.400 People

00:53:35.860 In

00:53:36.080 This

00:53:36.260 Space

00:53:36.540 The

00:53:36.700 Providers

00:53:37.280 And

00:53:37.420 They

00:53:37.540 Really

00:53:37.740 Are

00:53:37.940 Providers

00:53:38.600 In

00:53:38.880 The

00:53:39.000 Opio

00:53:39.380 World

00:53:40.040 They

00:53:40.240 Do

00:53:40.440 This

00:53:40.740 In

00:53:40.980 Good

00:53:41.180 Faith

00:53:41.500 They

00:53:42.120 Know

00:53:42.460 The

00:53:42.680 Value

00:53:43.100 That

00:53:43.520 The

00:53:43.820 Solace

00:53:44.260 That

00:53:44.460 This

00:53:44.640 Can

00:53:44.820 Bring

00:53:45.120 To

00:53:45.460 Patients

00:53:46.600 Families

00:53:47.340 Who

00:53:47.580 Are

00:53:47.700 Grieving

00:53:48.140 Who

00:53:48.420 Are

00:53:48.540 Watching

00:53:48.860 A

00:53:49.020 Loved

00:53:49.160 One

00:53:49.320 Pass

00:53:49.640 Away

00:53:49.940 And

00:53:50.480 Knowing

00:53:50.760 That

00:53:50.960 Something

00:53:51.220 Good

00:53:51.500 Can

00:53:51.700 Come

00:53:51.900 Out

00:53:52.060 Of

00:53:52.140 This

00:53:52.320 And

00:53:52.820 The

00:53:52.980 Hope

00:53:53.300 That

00:53:53.480 It

00:53:53.620 Brings

00:53:54.040 To

00:53:54.340 The

00:53:54.580 Patients

00:53:55.260 And

00:53:55.460 Families

00:53:55.760 Who

00:53:55.940 Need

00:53:56.140 These

00:53:56.340 Organs

00:53:56.680 So

00:53:56.840 They

00:53:56.960 Doing

00:53:57.260 This

00:53:57.500 For

00:53:57.700 The

00:53:57.860 Right

00:53:58.080 Reasons

00:53:58.480 The

00:53:59.200 Error

00:53:59.520 Here

00:53:59.800 I

00:54:00.020 Think

00:54:00.240 Was

00:54:00.620 That

00:54:01.320 When

00:54:02.000 You

00:54:02.260 Assess

00:54:02.820 Somebody

00:54:03.200 When

00:54:03.420 You

00:54:03.540 Look

00:54:03.800 At

00:54:03.940 Them

00:54:04.100 In

00:54:04.220 The

00:54:04.320 Bed

00:54:04.540 And

00:54:04.780 You

00:54:04.920 Get

00:54:05.160 A

00:54:05.400 Sense

00:54:05.620 Of

00:54:05.780 How

00:54:06.040 Severely

00:54:06.600 They

00:54:06.780 Been

00:54:06.980 Neurologically

00:54:07.640 Injured

00:54:08.040 You

00:54:08.640 Need

00:54:08.880 To

00:54:09.040 Know

00:54:09.200 Are

00:54:09.340 You

00:54:09.480 Actually

00:54:09.780 Seeing

00:54:10.280 Their

00:54:10.500 Neurologic

00:54:11.080 Function

00:54:11.500 Or

00:54:12.040 Is

00:54:12.160 That

00:54:12.300 Being

00:54:12.500 Clouded

00:54:12.980 Either

00:54:13.180 By

00:54:13.360 Drugs

00:54:13.700 That

00:54:13.860 The

00:54:14.000 Hospital

00:54:14.400 Is

00:54:14.580 Giving

00:54:14.820 To

00:54:15.100 Keep

00:54:15.320 Them

00:54:15.500 Comfortable

00:54:15.920 Or

00:54:16.660 By

00:54:16.980 Some

00:54:17.340 Other

00:54:17.560 Thing

00:54:18.060 Like

00:54:18.300 A

00:54:18.420 Drug

00:54:18.620 Overdose

00:54:19.080 That

00:54:19.280 Led

00:54:19.460 To

00:54:19.600 Them

00:54:19.740 Coming

00:54:19.960 Into

00:54:20.200 The

00:54:20.340 Hospital

00:54:20.660 In

00:54:20.840 The

00:54:20.940 First

00:54:21.160 Place

00:54:21.480 And

00:54:22.240 You

00:54:22.360 Need

00:54:22.540 To

00:54:22.700 Reassess

00:54:23.280 That

00:54:23.480 As

00:54:23.620 Time

00:54:23.840 Goes

00:54:24.080 On

00:54:24.360 Because

00:54:24.760 In

00:54:24.980 Mr.

00:54:25.280 Hoover's

00:54:25.640 Case

00:54:25.940 That

00:54:26.180 I

00:54:26.360 Can

00:54:26.560 Talk

00:54:26.960 About

00:54:27.180 Because

00:54:27.520 It

00:54:27.820 Is

00:54:27.980 In

00:54:28.160 The

00:54:28.600 HRSA

00:54:29.120 Report

00:54:29.460 Which

00:54:29.700 Has

00:54:29.840 Now

00:54:30.000 Been

00:54:30.160 Made

00:54:30.360 Public

00:54:30.740 Mr.

00:54:31.740 Hoover

00:54:32.020 Was

00:54:32.260 Showing

00:54:32.860 Clear

00:54:33.260 Signs

00:54:33.660 That

00:54:33.800 He

00:54:33.920 Was

00:54:34.120 Recovering

00:54:34.960 And

00:54:35.120 It

00:54:35.240 Was

00:54:35.340 Being

00:54:35.540 Documented

00:54:36.200 By

00:54:36.420 Opio

00:54:36.760 Staff

00:54:37.120 That

00:54:37.300 He

00:54:37.420 Was

00:54:37.580 Recovering

00:54:38.120 He

00:54:38.280 Was

00:54:38.460 Waking

00:54:38.820 Up

00:54:39.100 But

00:54:39.580 They

00:54:39.720 Didn't

00:54:40.060 Change

00:54:40.460 What

00:54:40.660 They

00:54:40.900 Were

00:54:41.080 Planning

00:54:41.460 To

00:54:41.740 Do

00:54:42.000 And

00:54:42.600 It

00:54:42.700 Was

00:54:42.820 A

00:54:42.960 Hospital

00:54:43.440 Physician

00:54:44.100 Who

00:54:44.500 Said

00:54:44.800 I'm

00:54:45.100 Not

00:54:45.280 Comfortable

00:54:45.680 Proceeding

00:54:46.340 With

00:54:46.540 This

00:54:46.760 And

00:54:47.080 Ended

00:54:47.680 The

00:54:47.820 Process

00:54:48.200 So

00:54:49.400 I

00:54:50.460 Don't

00:54:50.620 Know

00:54:50.760 If

00:54:50.880 You

00:54:50.980 Can

00:54:51.100 Answer

00:54:51.320 This

00:54:51.620 But

00:54:52.020 Why

00:54:52.680 Why

00:54:53.400 Would

00:54:53.680 They

00:54:53.840 Record

00:54:54.320 That

00:54:54.740 There

00:54:55.160 Were

00:54:55.360 Signs

00:54:55.780 Of

00:54:55.920 Recovery

00:54:56.440 And

00:54:57.500 Decide

00:54:58.140 To

00:54:58.380 Move

00:54:58.760 Forward

00:54:59.320 Anyway

00:55:00.340 And

00:55:00.700 Basically

00:55:01.100 They

00:55:01.380 Depended

00:55:01.820 On

00:55:07.120 There

00:55:07.260 Are

00:55:07.540 Where

00:55:07.840 You

00:55:08.380 Know

00:55:08.500 The

00:55:08.680 Doctor

00:55:09.040 Doesn't

00:55:09.400 Feel

00:55:09.600 Like

00:55:09.760 He

00:55:09.900 Can

00:55:10.140 Speak

00:55:10.440 Up

00:55:10.680 Or

00:55:10.920 He

00:55:11.420 Just

00:55:11.600 Doesn't

00:55:12.120 So

00:55:13.780 I

00:55:13.920 Think

00:55:14.080 This

00:55:14.320 Is

00:55:14.460 Something

00:55:14.700 That

00:55:14.940 You

00:55:15.060 Know

00:55:15.120 We

00:55:15.260 Find

00:55:15.600 In

00:55:15.800 Government

00:55:16.260 Review

00:55:16.680 Of

00:55:16.860 Similar

00:55:17.140 Systems

00:55:17.580 Aviation

00:55:18.240 Is

00:55:18.420 Probably

00:55:18.860 The

00:55:19.380 Closest

00:55:20.020 Analogy

00:55:20.540 To

00:55:20.760 This

00:55:20.980 Where

00:55:21.580 People

00:55:21.980 Essentially

00:55:22.960 Receive

00:55:23.500 It

00:55:23.640 As

00:55:23.880 Kind

00:55:24.360 Of

00:55:24.420 A

00:55:24.540 Received

00:55:24.920 Wisdom

00:55:25.360 And

00:55:25.900 They

00:55:26.060 Act

00:55:26.420 As

00:55:26.680 They

00:55:26.840 Think

00:55:27.140 The

00:55:27.440 Person

00:55:27.720 Before

00:55:28.140 Them

00:55:28.420 And

00:55:28.540 The

00:55:28.640 Person

00:55:28.880 After

00:55:29.260 Them

00:55:29.500 Would

00:55:29.680 Act

00:55:37.120 And

00:55:37.240 Hospital

00:55:37.620 Staff

00:55:38.020 Were

00:55:38.200 Telling

00:55:38.540 Them

00:55:38.680 And

00:55:39.620 It

00:55:39.780 Is

00:55:39.840 A

00:55:40.100 Circumstance

00:55:41.540 Where

00:55:41.740 You

00:55:41.940 Can't

00:55:42.320 Let

00:55:42.500 This

00:55:42.740 Be

00:55:42.960 A

00:55:43.140 Runaway

00:55:43.520 Train

00:55:43.800 You

00:55:44.120 Have

00:55:44.520 To

00:55:44.680 Know

00:55:44.840 That

00:55:45.000 You're

00:55:45.240 Responsible

00:55:46.320 For

00:55:46.520 The

00:55:46.660 Actions

00:55:47.020 That

00:55:47.200 You

00:55:47.320 Take

00:55:47.660 With

00:55:47.900 That

00:55:48.080 Living

00:55:48.360 Patient

00:55:48.720 Quick

00:55:54.140 Pause

00:55:54.480 To

00:55:54.620 Tell

00:55:54.740 You

00:55:54.820 About

00:55:54.940 Our

00:55:55.060 Last

00:55:55.340 Sponsor

00:55:55.660 For

00:55:55.820 The

00:55:55.960 Day

00:55:56.120 That's

00:55:56.420 Concerned

00:55:57.040 Women

00:55:57.380 For

00:55:57.980 America

00:55:58.680 This

00:55:59.280 Organization

00:55:59.880 Is

00:56:00.340 The

00:56:00.480 Largest

00:56:01.560 Public

00:56:02.320 Policy

00:56:02.920 Christian

00:56:03.600 Women's

00:56:04.520 Org

00:56:05.140 For

00:56:05.360 45

00:56:06.180 Years

00:56:07.120 They

00:56:07.560 Have

00:56:07.660 Been

00:56:07.780 Leading

00:56:08.140 The

00:56:08.360 Charge

00:56:08.760 As

00:56:09.200 Your

00:56:09.800 Voice

00:56:10.160 In

00:56:10.400 All

00:56:10.760 Levels

00:56:11.200 Of

00:56:11.320 Public

00:56:11.620 Policy

00:56:12.160 When

00:56:12.420 It

00:56:12.540 Comes

00:56:12.780 To

00:56:13.080 The

00:56:13.960 Sanctity

00:56:14.560 Of

00:56:14.740 Life

00:56:15.000 The

00:56:15.180 Protection

00:56:15.520 Of

00:56:15.740 The

00:56:15.860 Family

00:56:16.200 Religious

00:56:16.680 Liberty

00:56:17.120 Parental

00:56:17.760 Choice

00:56:18.040 And

00:56:18.180 Education

00:56:18.720 So

00:56:19.560 Much

00:56:19.980 More

00:56:20.320 They

00:56:20.680 Have

00:56:21.060 Been

00:56:21.460 Absolute

00:56:22.720 Pillars

00:56:23.580 For

00:56:23.840 Conservative

00:56:24.540 Christian

00:56:25.200 Policy

00:56:25.720 Have

00:56:26.040 Advocated

00:56:26.820 To

00:56:27.140 The

00:56:27.620 Top

00:56:28.020 Levels

00:56:28.580 Of

00:56:28.840 Government

00:56:29.340 The

00:56:29.720 Values

00:56:30.340 The

00:56:30.520 Needs

00:56:30.860 The

00:56:31.280 Concerns

00:56:31.700 The

00:56:31.840 Priorities

00:56:32.480 That

00:56:32.840 Moms

00:56:33.240 Like

00:56:33.460 You

00:56:33.680 And

00:56:33.940 I

00:56:34.220 Have

00:56:34.680 Penny

00:56:35.300 Nance

00:56:35.780 Is

00:56:36.100 The

00:56:36.320 CEO

00:56:36.760 She

00:56:37.100 Is

00:56:37.240 Awesome

00:56:37.620 I

00:56:37.840 Have

00:56:37.960 Met

00:56:38.180 Her

00:56:38.400 Before

00:56:38.920 She

00:56:39.680 Wrote

00:56:40.200 A

00:56:40.420 Woman's

00:56:40.860 Guide

00:56:41.060 Seven

00:56:41.480 Rules

00:56:41.840 For

00:56:42.020 Success

00:56:42.580 In

00:56:42.840 Business

00:56:43.260 And

00:56:43.580 Life

00:56:43.940 And

00:56:44.140 They're

00:56:44.320 Giving

00:56:44.660 Away

00:56:44.960 This

00:56:45.180 Incredible

00:56:45.580 Resource

00:56:46.120 To

00:56:46.460 You

00:56:46.800 As

00:56:47.220 A

00:56:47.460 Gift

00:56:47.880 When

00:56:48.400 You

00:56:48.520 Go

00:56:48.720 To

00:56:48.940 Concerned

00:56:49.700 Women

00:56:50.040 Dot

00:56:50.800 Org

00:56:51.180 Slash

00:56:51.520 Allie

00:56:51.960 That's

00:56:52.300 Where

00:56:52.420 You

00:56:52.520 Can

00:56:52.660 Get

00:56:52.860 Your

00:56:53.020 Copy

00:56:53.380 And

00:56:53.600 Learn

00:56:53.840 More

00:56:54.240 About

00:56:54.660 Women

00:56:54.940 For

00:56:55.160 America

00:56:55.540 Concerned

00:56:56.040 Women

00:56:56.240 For

00:56:56.440 America

00:56:56.860 That's

00:56:57.540 Concerned

00:56:58.060 Women

00:56:58.280 Dot

00:56:58.700 Org

00:56:59.160 Slash

00:56:59.600 Allie

00:57:00.060 Tell me

00:57:05.300 A little

00:57:05.560 Bit

00:57:05.720 More

00:57:05.980 About

00:57:06.420 The

00:57:06.620 Reforms

00:57:07.140 That

00:57:07.260 Are

00:57:07.380 Being

00:57:07.640 Put

00:57:07.880 In

00:57:08.040 Place

00:57:08.360 To

00:57:08.560 Make

00:57:08.820 Sure

00:57:09.180 As

00:57:09.580 Much

00:57:09.940 As

00:57:10.240 You

00:57:10.440 Know

00:57:10.520 Your

00:57:10.760 Department

00:57:11.120 Is

00:57:11.380 Able

00:57:11.740 To

00:57:13.180 Make

00:57:13.340 Sure

00:57:13.520 That

00:57:13.740 This

00:57:14.160 Is

00:57:14.500 Not

00:57:14.840 Happening

00:57:15.400 Yeah

00:57:17.300 So

00:57:17.520 They're

00:57:18.240 The

00:57:19.180 Biggest

00:57:19.500 Again

00:57:19.800 Going

00:57:20.160 In

00:57:20.620 The

00:57:20.940 Aviation

00:57:21.420 World

00:57:21.660 The

00:57:21.840 Biggest

00:57:22.080 Way

00:57:22.340 To

00:57:22.500 Prevent

00:57:22.780 Accidents

00:57:23.280 Is

00:57:23.460 To

00:57:23.600 Make

00:57:23.800 A

00:57:23.940 Safer

00:57:24.180 System

00:57:24.580 Overall

00:57:24.980 And

00:57:25.720 We've

00:57:25.980 Done

00:57:26.180 That

00:57:26.440 By

00:57:26.660 Using

00:57:27.080 The

00:57:27.420 New

00:57:27.580 Authorities

00:57:28.120 And

00:57:28.320 Resources

00:57:28.760 That

00:57:29.060 We

00:57:29.180 Got

00:57:29.360 With

00:57:29.560 The

00:57:29.720 Securing

00:57:30.120 Act

00:57:30.420 In

00:57:30.600 23

00:57:31.020 To

00:57:31.940 Get

00:57:32.340 That

00:57:32.640 Independent

00:57:33.200 Framework

00:57:33.820 Which

00:57:34.040 Allows

00:57:34.520 Us

00:57:34.760 To

00:57:34.960 Bring

00:57:35.220 In

00:57:35.380 Outside

00:57:35.740 Eyes

00:57:36.260 And

00:57:36.800 Have

00:57:37.160 A

00:57:37.380 More

00:57:37.560 Critical

00:57:37.980 View

00:57:38.420 Of

00:57:38.700 What

00:57:38.940 Have

00:57:39.160 Been

00:57:39.320 Accepted

00:57:39.860 Norms

00:57:40.320 Now

00:57:40.920 In

00:57:41.040 The

00:57:41.160 Case

00:57:41.360 Of

00:57:41.540 DCD

00:57:42.000 Procurement

00:57:42.600 The

00:57:43.360 Corrective

00:57:43.920 Action

00:57:44.180 Plan

00:57:44.460 Had

00:57:45.280 An

00:57:45.440 Element

00:57:45.700 That

00:57:45.900 Was

00:57:46.040 Focused

00:57:46.320 On

00:57:46.540 This

00:57:46.700 One

00:57:46.960 OPO

00:57:47.440 But

00:57:47.900 It

00:57:48.000 Also

00:57:48.240 Has

00:57:48.580 Some

00:57:48.800 Tools

00:57:49.260 To

00:57:49.660 Help

00:57:49.960 The

00:57:50.180 OPTN

00:57:50.780 Make

00:57:50.980 Better

00:57:51.260 Policies

00:57:51.860 Around

00:57:52.080 Making

00:57:52.400 This

00:57:52.660 Safe

00:57:52.940 Nationwide

00:57:53.620 And

00:57:54.160 Those

00:57:54.340 Really

00:57:54.740 Go

00:57:55.640 At

00:57:55.880 A

00:57:56.080 Couple

00:57:56.280 Of

00:57:56.400 Different

00:57:56.700 Objectives

00:57:57.720 One

00:57:58.020 Is

00:57:58.220 Better

00:57:58.940 Documentation

00:57:59.780 Of

00:57:59.920 What

00:58:00.080 Somebody's

00:58:00.540 Neurologic

00:58:01.100 Status

00:58:01.440 Is

00:58:01.740 Meaning

00:58:01.960 How

00:58:02.280 Severely

00:58:02.780 Their

00:58:02.980 Brain

00:58:03.240 Is

00:58:03.420 Injured

00:58:03.680 And

00:58:04.180 What

00:58:04.360 The

00:58:04.520 Likelihood

00:58:04.940 Is

00:58:05.240 That

00:58:05.400 They

00:58:05.560 Would

00:58:05.800 Be

00:58:05.980 A

00:58:06.200 Good

00:58:06.420 DCD

00:58:07.040 Donor

00:58:07.400 Candidate

00:58:08.020 The

00:58:08.720 Second

00:58:08.960 Is

00:58:09.220 Listening

00:58:09.720 To

00:58:10.140 Hospital

00:58:10.740 Staff

00:58:11.240 And

00:58:11.480 Families

00:58:11.840 And

00:58:12.120 Making

00:58:12.340 Sure

00:58:12.560 That

00:58:12.740 People

00:58:12.980 Know

00:58:13.260 That

00:58:13.500 A

00:58:14.020 Pause

00:58:14.360 Is

00:58:14.540 Something

00:58:14.760 That

00:58:14.980 Can

00:58:15.120 Be

00:58:15.240 Called

00:58:15.500 For

00:58:15.740 This

00:58:16.000 Is

00:58:16.140 Something

00:58:16.380 That

00:58:16.620 Is

00:58:16.940 Pretty

00:58:17.480 Standard

00:58:17.940 And

00:58:18.120 Other

00:58:18.380 Elements

00:58:18.780 Of

00:58:18.960 Medicine

00:58:19.340 Part

00:58:20.140 Of

00:58:20.360 The

00:58:20.520 Real

00:58:20.800 Patient

00:58:21.140 Safety

00:58:21.560 Revolution

00:58:22.520 Of

00:58:33.680 Were

00:58:33.900 Given

00:58:34.140 To

00:58:34.380 Somebody

00:58:34.800 Around

00:58:36.080 The

00:58:36.280 Time

00:58:36.520 That

00:58:36.780 They

00:58:37.000 Were

00:58:37.340 Brought

00:58:38.680 To

00:58:38.820 The

00:58:38.940 Operating

00:58:39.300 Room

00:58:39.480 For

00:58:39.620 The

00:58:39.700 Attempted

00:58:40.160 Organ

00:58:40.460 Recovery

00:58:41.000 Is

00:58:42.440 There

00:58:42.600 Any

00:58:42.860 Profit

00:58:43.500 Incentive

00:58:44.300 Anywhere

00:58:45.480 In

00:58:45.900 This

00:58:46.340 Supply

00:58:46.920 Chain

00:58:47.220 When

00:58:47.420 It

00:58:47.540 Comes

00:58:47.740 To

00:58:47.880 Organ

00:58:48.140 Donation

00:58:48.760 Hospitals

00:58:49.420 Doctors

00:58:49.900 OPO

00:58:50.700 So

00:58:53.260 The

00:58:54.020 Family

00:58:54.660 Of

00:58:55.260 A

00:58:55.360 Deceased

00:58:55.700 Donor

00:58:56.040 Does

00:58:56.240 Not

00:58:56.420 Receive

00:58:56.840 Any

00:58:57.180 Compensation

00:58:57.920 They

00:58:58.260 Get

00:58:58.500 Some

00:58:58.680 Help

00:58:58.920 With

00:58:59.200 A

00:58:59.740 Change

00:59:00.020 In

00:59:00.180 Burial

00:59:00.540 Expenses

00:59:01.060 But

00:59:01.620 They're

00:59:01.800 Not

00:59:02.020 Compensated

00:59:02.620 For

00:59:02.840 Being

00:59:03.120 Organ

00:59:03.480 Donor

00:59:03.860 The

00:59:04.720 OPO

00:59:05.440 Has

00:59:05.840 To

00:59:06.020 Pay

00:59:06.360 The

00:59:06.660 Hospital

00:59:07.140 For

00:59:07.520 The

00:59:07.760 Time

00:59:08.100 And

00:59:08.260 Resources

00:59:08.700 That

00:59:08.980 It

00:59:09.100 Uses

00:59:09.420 If

00:59:09.640 A

00:59:10.060 Potential

00:59:10.520 Organ

00:59:10.760 Donor

00:59:11.020 Candidate

00:59:11.480 Is

00:59:11.660 Kept

00:59:11.940 In

00:59:12.700 The

00:59:12.980 ICU

00:59:13.500 For

00:59:13.780 A

00:59:13.920 Period

00:59:14.100 Of

00:59:14.260 Days

00:59:14.560 If

00:59:14.780 They

00:59:14.920 Do

00:59:15.080 Tests

00:59:15.420 Like

00:59:15.620 Cardiac

00:59:16.020 Cath

00:59:16.500 Or

00:59:16.720 Bronchoscopy

00:59:17.420 Where

00:59:17.640 They're

00:59:17.760 Looking

00:59:18.000 Down

00:59:18.240 Into

00:59:18.440 The

00:59:18.620 Lungs

00:59:18.920 Those

00:59:19.540 Things

00:59:19.760 Cost

00:59:20.040 Money

00:59:20.340 The

00:59:20.560 Operating

00:59:20.960 Room

00:59:21.120 Cost

00:59:21.400 Money

00:59:21.680 And

00:59:22.220 So

00:59:22.340 The

00:59:22.520 OPO

00:59:22.860 Has

00:59:23.100 To

00:59:23.240 Pay

00:59:23.420 The

00:59:23.580 Hospital

00:59:23.940 For

00:59:24.200 That

00:59:24.420 They

00:59:25.300 Have

00:59:25.980 The

00:59:26.160 Resources

00:59:26.580 To

00:59:26.880 Pay

00:59:27.120 That

00:59:27.440 From

00:59:27.820 The

00:59:28.120 Charge

00:59:28.640 That

00:59:28.860 They

00:59:29.020 Make

00:59:29.360 For

00:59:30.120 The

00:59:30.300 Organ

00:59:30.620 So

00:59:30.940 If

00:59:31.100 An

00:59:31.180 Organ

00:59:31.440 Donor

00:59:32.280 Patient

00:59:32.720 Has

00:59:34.500 A

00:59:34.800 Liver

00:59:35.040 Two

00:59:35.480 Kidneys

00:59:35.920 A

00:59:36.200 Heart

00:59:36.460 And

00:59:36.700 Lungs

00:59:37.040 That

00:59:37.220 Are

00:59:37.320 Recovered

00:59:37.940 That

00:59:38.460 The

00:59:39.060 Fees

00:59:40.100 That

00:59:40.240 Are

00:59:40.340 Collected

00:59:40.800 By

00:59:40.960 The

00:59:41.100 OPO

00:59:41.500 For

00:59:41.780 That

00:59:42.040 Are

00:59:42.280 Used

00:59:42.600 To

00:59:42.780 Fund

00:59:42.980 Their

00:59:43.140 Activities

00:59:43.780 Is

00:59:45.420 It

00:59:45.680 Reasonable

00:59:46.460 To

00:59:47.480 Wonder

00:59:48.560 If

00:59:49.780 There

00:59:50.020 Would

00:59:50.220 Be

00:59:50.440 More

00:59:51.000 Of

00:59:51.320 An

00:59:51.440 Incentive

00:59:52.140 Than

00:59:52.580 To

00:59:53.400 Allow

00:59:54.180 A

00:59:54.480 Patient

00:59:54.860 To

00:59:55.340 Die

00:59:55.860 So

00:59:56.440 That

00:59:56.680 Their

00:59:56.860 Organs

00:59:57.420 Could

00:59:57.680 Be

00:59:57.880 Harvested

00:59:58.700 Than

00:59:58.900 It

00:59:59.020 Would

00:59:59.160 Be

00:59:59.300 To

00:59:59.480 Keep

00:59:59.660 Them

00:59:59.880 Alive

01:00:00.480 Because

01:00:00.840 There

01:00:01.200 Would

01:00:01.380 Be

01:00:01.560 No

01:00:01.840 Reimbursement

01:00:03.060 If

01:00:04.000 That

01:00:04.400 Patient

01:00:04.940 Survives

01:00:05.840 Well

01:00:08.620 To

01:00:08.840 Some

01:00:09.020 Degree

01:00:09.220 We're

01:00:09.420 Dependent

01:00:09.780 On

01:00:10.000 Medical

01:00:10.660 Ethics

01:00:11.120 Right

01:00:11.360 And

01:00:11.600 This

01:00:11.820 Is

01:00:12.000 A

01:00:12.160 Good

01:00:12.380 Faith

01:00:12.640 System

01:00:12.980 And

01:00:13.140 Again

01:00:13.360 I

01:00:13.580 Want

01:00:13.960 To

01:00:14.120 Emphasize

01:00:14.700 That

01:00:14.940 Everything

01:00:15.300 That

01:00:15.700 IRSA

01:00:16.060 Has

01:00:16.280 Seen

01:00:16.500 Shows

01:00:16.760 That

01:00:16.940 The

01:00:17.080 Major

01:00:17.460 Of

01:00:17.780 Cases

01:00:18.120 This

01:00:18.440 Is

01:00:18.600 Working

01:00:18.900 Well

01:00:19.280 And

01:00:19.740 The

01:00:19.860 Majority

01:00:20.280 Of

01:00:20.420 Personnel

01:00:20.900 That

01:00:21.060 Are

01:00:21.160 Involved

01:00:21.520 In

01:00:21.680 This

01:00:21.840 Are

01:00:22.020 Doing

01:00:22.320 This

01:00:22.580 Well

01:00:22.820 And

01:00:23.000 In

01:00:23.160 Good

01:00:23.340 Faith

01:00:23.680 We

01:00:24.420 Always

01:00:24.720 Have

01:00:24.980 To

01:00:25.080 Have

01:00:25.280 That

01:00:25.440 Question

01:00:25.780 That's

01:00:26.060 Part

01:00:26.260 Of

01:00:26.380 Oversight

01:00:26.880 Is

01:00:27.120 Making

01:00:27.380 Sure

01:00:27.640 That

01:00:27.840 We

01:00:27.980 Don't

01:00:28.220 See

01:00:28.400 Any

01:00:28.560 Evidence

01:00:28.920 Of

01:00:29.060 That

01:00:29.240 And

01:00:29.440 If

01:00:29.560 We

01:00:29.680 Do

01:00:29.880 See

01:00:30.060 Evidence

01:00:30.420 Of

01:00:30.640 It

01:00:30.760 That

01:00:31.260 We

01:00:31.380 Take

01:00:31.600 The

01:00:31.760 Appropriate

01:00:32.220 Steps

01:00:32.640 On

01:00:32.840 It

01:00:33.000 But

01:00:33.740 Right

01:00:34.160 Now

01:00:34.420 Everything

01:00:34.760 That

01:00:35.280 We

01:00:35.440 See

01:00:35.740 I

01:00:35.960 Think

01:00:36.140 Is

01:00:36.360 Would

01:00:37.700 Be

01:00:37.860 Consistent

01:00:38.260 More

01:00:38.540 With

01:00:38.740 Being

01:00:38.940 Misguided

01:00:39.600 Rather

01:00:40.080 Than

01:00:40.580 Having

01:00:41.440 Poor

01:00:42.180 Motives

01:00:42.620 Okay

01:00:43.360 And

01:00:44.380 I've

01:00:44.680 Seen

01:00:44.820 A lot

01:00:45.040 Of

01:00:45.140 Conversations

01:00:45.780 About

01:00:46.180 This

01:00:46.460 Over

01:00:46.620 The

01:00:46.780 Past

01:00:47.020 Few

01:00:47.260 Years

01:00:47.720 There

01:00:48.020 Are

01:00:48.160 People

01:00:48.420 Who

01:00:48.660 Say

01:00:48.940 Do

01:00:49.240 Not

01:00:49.640 Put

01:00:50.300 On

01:00:50.780 Your

01:00:51.220 Driver's

01:00:51.960 License

01:00:52.620 Organ

01:00:53.080 Donor

01:00:53.680 And

01:00:54.260 The

01:00:54.460 Thought

01:00:54.760 Behind

01:00:55.100 That

01:00:55.360 Is

01:00:55.600 If

01:00:55.780 You

01:00:55.940 Do

01:00:56.140 That

01:00:56.400 Then

01:00:56.620 There's

01:00:56.840 Less

01:00:57.160 In

01:00:57.360 For

01:00:57.740 Them

01:00:58.000 To

01:00:58.420 Keep

01:00:59.320 You

01:00:59.560 Alive

01:01:00.060 Do

01:01:00.300 You

01:01:00.440 Think

01:01:00.680 That

01:01:00.880 There

01:01:01.100 Is

01:01:01.320 Anything

01:01:01.940 Behind

01:01:03.320 That

01:01:03.980 That

01:01:04.540 People

01:01:05.000 Shouldn't

01:01:05.540 Actually

01:01:05.920 Be

01:01:06.140 Putting

01:01:06.400 Organ

01:01:06.840 Donor

01:01:07.320 On

01:01:07.600 Their

01:01:07.800 License

01:01:08.340 Or

01:01:08.580 Is

01:01:08.740 That

01:01:08.940 Also

01:01:09.320 A

01:01:09.500 Misguided

01:01:09.960 Fear

01:01:10.320 It's

01:01:12.480 A

01:01:12.600 Common

01:01:12.940 Fear

01:01:13.260 But

01:01:13.600 I

01:01:13.720 Would

01:01:13.840 Say

01:01:14.100 It's

01:01:14.840 Misplaced

01:01:15.680 So

01:01:16.640 I've

01:01:16.800 Been

01:01:16.880 A

01:01:17.020 Physician

01:01:17.340 For

01:01:17.540 20

01:01:17.860 Years

01:01:18.220 I

01:01:18.660 Have

01:01:19.220 Always

01:01:19.760 Loved

01:01:20.020 Transplant

01:01:20.520 And

01:01:20.880 Wanted

01:01:21.240 To

01:01:21.360 Do

01:01:21.500 This

01:01:21.740 And

01:01:21.860 The

01:01:22.000 Two

01:01:22.200 Things

01:01:22.520 That

01:01:22.660 I've

01:01:22.840 Heard

01:01:23.080 From

01:01:23.420 Public

01:01:24.100 People

01:01:24.420 From

01:01:24.660 Patients

01:01:25.060 That

01:01:25.220 I've

01:01:25.320 Interacted

01:01:25.840 The

01:01:26.400 Two

01:01:26.620 Fears

01:01:27.040 Are

01:01:27.660 A

01:01:28.200 Person

01:01:33.980 Going

01:01:34.300 To

01:01:34.560 Have

01:01:34.920 My

01:01:36.000 Choices

01:01:37.240 Made

01:01:37.560 More

01:01:37.780 Towards

01:01:38.060 Organ

01:01:38.340 Donations

01:01:39.000 Than

01:01:39.820 Being

01:01:40.240 Kept

01:01:40.560 Alive

01:01:41.000 I

01:01:41.580 Think

01:01:41.800 It's

01:01:42.140 Important

01:01:42.420 To

01:01:42.600 Know

01:01:42.720 That

01:01:42.880 The

01:01:43.000 Government

01:01:43.220 Is

01:01:43.420 Making

01:01:43.660 Sure

01:01:43.940 That

01:01:44.200 Neither

01:01:44.580 Of

01:01:44.800 Those

01:01:44.980 Things

01:01:45.220 Are

01:01:45.380 True

01:01:45.620 We

01:01:46.880 Already

01:01:47.240 Earlier

01:01:48.080 This

01:01:48.360 Spring

01:01:48.680 Announced

01:01:49.300 Again

01:01:49.820 With

01:01:50.280 The

01:01:50.420 Resources

01:01:50.780 That

01:01:51.060 We

01:01:51.180 Got

01:01:51.420 From

01:01:51.680 Congress

01:01:52.100 That

01:01:52.720 We're

01:01:53.000 Making

01:01:53.480 Sure

01:01:53.800 That

01:01:54.000 The

01:01:54.160 System

01:01:54.500 Stays

01:01:55.040 Fair

01:01:55.380 And

01:01:55.980 That

01:01:56.120 Those

01:01:56.340 Lists

01:01:56.740 That

01:01:56.960 Are

01:01:57.100 Made

01:01:57.400 That

01:01:57.700 Place

01:01:58.060 Somebody

01:01:58.480 In

01:01:58.940 Order

01:01:59.320 To

01:01:59.560 Get

01:02:03.980 Patients

01:02:04.500 On

01:02:05.300 The

01:02:05.520 Donor

01:02:06.100 Side

01:02:06.440 We're

01:02:07.260 Making

01:02:07.580 Sure

01:02:07.880 With

01:02:08.180 This

01:02:08.480 Corrective

01:02:09.300 Action

01:02:09.560 Plan

01:02:09.860 And

01:02:10.000 With

01:02:10.120 Other

01:02:10.320 Work

01:02:10.580 That

01:02:10.760 We're

01:02:10.920 Doing

01:02:11.260 That

01:02:12.040 It

01:02:12.220 Is

01:02:12.440 Safe

01:02:12.800 To

01:02:13.040 Make

01:02:13.200 That

01:02:13.400 Choice

01:02:13.740 And

01:02:14.060 It's

01:02:14.240 A

01:02:14.380 Truly

01:02:15.020 Noble

01:02:15.560 Choice

01:02:15.900 It's

01:02:16.120 One

01:02:16.280 That

01:02:16.420 170

01:02:17.100 Million

01:02:17.480 Americans

01:02:17.920 Have

01:02:18.220 Made

01:02:18.500 It's

01:02:19.120 In

01:02:19.360 The

01:02:19.500 End

01:02:19.740 Everybody's

01:02:20.540 Individual

01:02:21.100 Choice

01:02:21.500 And

01:02:21.660 I

01:02:21.760 Would

01:02:21.900 Encourage

01:02:22.400 Your

01:02:22.660 Viewers

01:02:23.420 To

01:02:23.660 Talk

01:02:24.420 About

01:02:24.640 It

01:02:24.740 With

01:02:24.900 Their

01:02:25.040 Family

01:02:25.420 But

01:02:26.220 To

01:02:26.420 Talk

01:02:26.700 Not

01:02:26.980 In

01:02:27.160 Terms

01:02:27.420 Of

01:02:27.560 Fear

01:02:33.980 And

01:02:34.160 That

01:02:34.360 The

01:02:34.540 Government

01:02:34.780 Will

01:02:35.000 Make

01:02:35.220 Sure

01:02:35.380 That

01:02:35.580 You

01:02:35.720 Are

01:02:35.860 Kept

01:02:36.080 Safe

01:02:36.520 And

01:02:36.820 That

01:02:36.980 Your

01:02:37.160 Wishes

01:02:37.560 And

01:02:37.840 Your

01:02:37.980 Family

01:02:38.340 Are

01:02:38.540 Respected

01:02:39.100 When

01:02:39.360 You

01:02:39.440 Make

01:02:39.600 That

01:02:39.800 Choice

01:02:40.140 Yeah

01:02:40.860 It

01:02:41.120 Is

01:02:41.300 Important

01:02:41.660 To

01:02:41.920 Note

01:02:42.160 That

01:02:42.360 I

01:02:42.500 Know

01:02:42.620 We're

01:02:42.760 Talking

01:02:43.080 About

01:02:43.360 Potentially

01:02:43.900 Scary

01:02:44.400 Side

01:02:44.860 Of

01:02:45.060 This

01:02:45.440 But

01:02:45.940 When

01:02:46.280 It's

01:02:46.540 Done

01:02:46.780 Right

01:02:47.100 It

01:02:47.340 Is

01:02:47.540 Truly

01:02:47.880 Such

01:02:48.380 A

01:02:49.360 Redemptive

01:02:50.000 Thing

01:02:50.300 When

01:02:50.600 You

01:02:50.720 Think

01:02:50.940 About

01:02:51.180 All

01:02:51.420 Of

01:02:51.540 The

01:02:51.680 Children

01:02:52.020 All

01:02:52.420 Of

01:02:52.540 The

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01:07:42.960 Thank

01:07:43.500 You

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - July 28, 2025

Ep 1223 ｜ The Forrest Frank Formula： Why Christian Music Is Trending

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