Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1260 ｜ Charlie Kirk’s Replacement & Jen Hatmaker’s Shocking Paganism

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00:01:00.820 Who is going to replace Charlie Kirk?

00:01:03.660 The media is really trying to find an answer to that question.

00:01:08.140 And the true answer isn't really what they're looking for.

00:01:12.820 Also, Jen Hatmaker says you should wear the bikini because your body will always tell you the truth. 0.86

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00:01:39.600 Hey, guys.

00:01:40.440 Welcome to Relatable.

00:01:41.480 Happy Wednesday.

00:01:42.520 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.

00:01:44.780 If you have not listened to or watched the episode with my dad from Monday, you got to go back and do that.

00:01:51.680 He truly gives, I think, the best advice, not just because of what he says, but because of how he says it.

00:01:58.260 He has a way in my personal life of making me feel calmer about everything that's going on, talking me through things, making sure that I'm seen clearly and logically, not just thinking with my emotions.

00:02:12.240 And I'm just so grateful for that.

00:02:13.920 And, you know, I think that there is such a void in a lot of people's lives for fatherly advice.

00:02:21.380 And obviously, my dad can't really replace that in your day-to-day life.

00:02:25.720 But I do hope that the episodes with him are a comfort to you, that they also bring clarity, but that you also feel like you have him to kind of give the wisdom that can only be given to someone in an older generation.

00:02:40.660 You know, boomers get a bad rap, and maybe in some cases, rightfully so, but we all need to respect the wisdom and the perspective that is gained just by age and experience. 1.00

00:02:53.900 I mean, at the age of 33, I am realizing how much experience gives you when it comes to knowledge, when it comes to expertise, when it comes to ability, just living life and carrying out the responsibilities that come with life, both at home or outside of the home.

00:03:14.600 And it just gives you so many tools in your tool belt.

00:03:18.000 So it just makes sense for us to rely on the people who are older than us to lend us that insight that we just don't quite have yet.

00:03:26.760 And that is one thing I think that is going to be really lost by people deferring, purposely deferring marriage and parenting until later.

00:03:36.720 That means that means that the grandparents are going to be a lot older for their grandkids.

00:03:41.660 That means they're not going to be around as long as they used to be when people were getting married earlier.

00:03:48.420 And that precious wisdom, that generational insight that is passed down like a baton is going to be lost for a lot of people.

00:03:58.580 I think there's so many unseen implications to the choice that so many people have made to not have kids or to put off having kids until everything falls in line and you've fulfilled your career goals and all of that.

00:04:14.480 I know for you out there who watch this podcast, who is not married and don't have kids, it's probably not a choice that you have made.

00:04:22.480 It's probably just where God has you right now, despite your own efforts and desires.

00:04:27.380 But just in general, this trend of deferring those commitments, I think has robbed a lot of young people of the insight of grandparents and great grandparents.

00:04:37.560 So, I hope that the episodes with my dad allow you to access something that either you already have in your life or maybe you don't.

00:04:45.780 He'll be back, I think, in just a couple weeks.

00:04:48.300 So, send in your questions, personal, economic, political questions, and he'll try to break them down for you.

00:04:54.280 All right.

00:04:54.680 We've got quite a few things to talk about today.

00:04:56.920 First, I just wanted to thank the Turning Point chapter at Louisiana State University.

00:05:03.480 I got to be there on Monday evening.

00:05:06.300 This is Turning Point.

00:05:08.680 This is the Turning Point campus tour.

00:05:11.580 And, of course, this was supposed to be Charlie Kirk's tour.

00:05:14.980 And he was going to go to all of these campus stops and do what he did the best of anyone, and that is debate, discuss, field questions, both combative questions and sincere questions.

00:05:28.620 And I know I have learned from people close to him that he had been preparing for this fall so much by digging into his word and making sure that he was sharp when it came to his evangelism and his apologetic skills.

00:05:43.540 And I think you could really see that in the last few months of his public life.

00:05:47.760 But I'm honored to be one of the many people who is replacing Charlie on this particular tour.

00:05:55.760 And actually, just a few weeks before he died, he texted me, a text between him, me, and Mikey McCoy saying, hey, I want you to join me on campus on November 3rd.

00:06:08.420 And I hadn't nailed down the university yet.

00:06:11.140 It was either going to be Auburn, maybe the University of Alabama.

00:06:14.620 And, of course, I was honored and excited to get to do that with Charlie again.

00:06:18.580 That's something that we did a few years ago at Auburn as well.

00:06:22.200 And obviously, that didn't come to fruition.

00:06:24.840 But it is clear that the Lord is multiplying the work that Charlie did before he died and that he is bringing many of the seeds that were planted to growth.

00:06:36.480 And so this is God's work.

00:06:39.320 He is totally sovereign.

00:06:40.400 He's going to do what he wants to do in all of us with Turning Point, in our lives, with Charlie's legacy.

00:06:50.420 And on Monday night, I wanted my speech to be dedicated to five of the most controversial truths that Charlie spoke.

00:06:58.380 Five of the most controversial truths that Charlie spoke.

00:07:01.720 And so I went through them.

00:07:02.920 Number one, my first one was that feminism has failed women. 1.00

00:07:07.420 That is something Charlie talked about a lot.

00:07:10.180 Number two, that porn has weakened men.

00:07:12.800 Number three, merit trumps DEI.

00:07:15.920 Number four, America is a Christian nation. 0.73

00:07:18.800 And then five, what I think is probably the most controversial truth.

00:07:23.260 In fact, it is the most controversial truth.

00:07:25.120 And this is the truth that I believe Charlie died for.

00:07:27.440 And that is Jesus is the only way to heaven.

00:07:32.840 So here's me explaining that one, thought seven. 0.71

00:07:35.780 The bad news is you're a sinner.

00:07:38.140 You've done some bad things. 0.99

00:07:39.400 We all have.

00:07:40.400 Every single one of us has sinned.

00:07:42.080 Every single one of us falls short of God's perfect standard.

00:07:45.060 And that is his standard, perfection.

00:07:47.220 He can't tolerate sin because he's a perfect holy God.

00:07:49.780 And he could have just left us to pay for our sin.

00:07:52.420 And the payment for our sin is death, not just here, but in eternity and hell forever.

00:07:57.720 That's what he could have left us for, but he didn't.

00:08:01.440 He sent his own son, Jesus, to die on the cross, to live a sinless life,

00:08:06.300 and then to sacrifice himself for our sin,

00:08:08.500 and then to raise himself up by his own power three days later, defeating death.

00:08:13.700 And by grace through faith, if you believe in that gospel,

00:08:17.260 you won't die, but you'll have eternal life.

00:08:21.180 You'll get to spend eternity in heaven with God.

00:08:27.740 And that is true for every single person.

00:08:34.040 So the crowd there giving a standing ovation for that statement that had nothing to do with me,

00:08:39.680 but that crowd was enthusiastic about the gospel because that was the most important thing,

00:08:44.520 of course, that Charlie talked about.

00:08:46.100 And I had the opportunity, thankfully, to share the gospel there,

00:08:49.740 because even with such an enthusiastically Christian crowd, you just never know.

00:08:54.100 A lot of people who might believe they know the gospel or think that they know the tenets of Christianity don't,

00:08:58.980 and it's never a bad idea to reiterate that, not only to other people, but also to ourselves.

00:09:04.380 We should be preaching the gospel to ourselves for the increase of our faith on a daily basis.

00:09:09.740 So of all the things that I said, and you can go watch the entire speech.

00:09:14.520 It's on Turning Point's Rumble.

00:09:16.540 I think it might even be on Blaze TV somewhere.

00:09:19.780 I'm not exactly sure.

00:09:21.320 But that is the most important, and that is always the most important.

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00:11:04.020 Okay, a couple more.

00:11:06.140 Here's a very controversial truth that Charlie talked about,

00:11:09.460 and that is that America is not a secular nation, but a Christian nation, Saudi.

00:11:15.900 All of the founders, at the very least, understood that it was the direction of Providence,

00:11:23.440 the creator of the universe, the giver of all rights,

00:11:28.420 that laid the foundation for this country as the source of liberty and the author of morality.

00:11:33.480 And without recognizing that, America does not make sense.

00:11:39.820 And I know what some people are going to say.

00:11:42.120 They're going to say, that's Christian nationalism,

00:11:44.740 because you can't possibly love your country and be a Christian.

00:11:48.260 You can't believe how the founders believed about the creator giving us rights.

00:11:52.260 You can't believe those things because that somehow makes you a scary Christo-fascist.

00:11:57.820 Well, here's what I have to say to that, Sat Naing. 0.99

00:11:59.800 Let me just tell you what this whole Christian nationalism attack is.

00:12:05.080 It is a manipulation tactic in order to silence conservative Christians and conservative Christians alone.

00:12:12.460 That's it.

00:12:13.440 We are the only ones who are told if we bring our worldview to the table or to the voting booth,

00:12:19.240 then we are promoting tyranny and fascism.

00:12:22.680 But the secular progressive gets to bring the fullness of their worldview to the table.

00:12:27.040 They get to vote in their strange beliefs that a baby isn't a full human until after they come out of the birth canal.

00:12:34.220 That's not a scientific belief.

00:12:35.880 That's a religious belief.

00:12:37.820 All right.

00:12:38.640 If you listen to my show, if you watch my show, then you've heard me say that before.

00:12:42.100 The belief that a man can become a woman isn't some neutral secular belief.

00:12:45.740 And yet progressives believe that they can bring the fullness of their worldview to the voting booth.

00:12:51.260 And their very arbitrary, weird moral opinions can inform our laws and our policies.

00:12:58.400 But the Christian can't. 1.00

00:13:00.480 Of course, every single law is a moral opinion.

00:13:04.020 Every single law is based on one particular worldview.

00:13:07.220 The question is only ever which one.

00:13:09.480 And Christians have not only the right, but also the responsibility to bring our biblical worldview to the table when discussing policy.

00:13:17.900 May the best idea win.

00:13:20.560 But if we believe that God's way is better, if we know that God is love, 1 John 4, 8,

00:13:25.620 if we understand that he is the creator of the universe and therefore the authority over all of it,

00:13:30.540 then how can we compartmentalize that?

00:13:32.620 We can't.

00:13:33.400 Jesus is the king of kings, and the king of kings cannot be compartmentalized.

00:13:39.840 That's the truth of it.

00:13:41.340 So it was such a wonderful crowd.

00:13:43.760 Super enthusiastic.

00:13:45.540 I also got to do a Q&A with a bunch of the students, and I don't have time to play all of those for you today.

00:13:52.920 I am going to be posting a lot of those interactions on Instagram over the next few days,

00:13:58.120 because some of them were just so sweet and sincere.

00:14:01.860 A 13-year-old girl, her name was Darby.

00:14:04.480 She said that she's about to get baptized, and she said she wants to be bold like Charlie Kirk,

00:14:09.420 and so what can she do?

00:14:11.320 And I'm like, you're already well on your way.

00:14:13.900 I mean, you're 13 years old.

00:14:15.000 You're coming up to the microphone in a spotlight, able to articulate this question so courageously and beautifully.

00:14:20.140 But the truth is, and this is true for all of you out there, especially you teens that listen to this or watch this with your parents,

00:14:27.820 you are not going to be the next Charlie Kirk.

00:14:30.300 No one is going to be the next Charlie Kirk.

00:14:32.560 For this young girl, you're going to be Darby.

00:14:36.060 You're going to be the girl and the woman that God has called you to be.

00:14:40.480 You are going to live out every single one of your days that God has already mapped out for you.

00:14:46.580 He has a purpose and an intention for your life.

00:14:51.380 He has given you particular gifts, particular skills, a particular propensity that is unique to you,

00:14:58.360 that he is going to use for his glory to make the world around you look more like the kingdom of heaven,

00:15:05.440 to advance his gospel in a way that you can.

00:15:09.380 And so none of us need to be thinking about how we're going to be the next someone else

00:15:13.740 or how we're going to fill this person's shoes or who is going to take that place.

00:15:18.980 You just run the race that God has marked for you, and he is going to equip you to do that.

00:15:25.180 He equips those that he calls and that he ordains, and he will do that for you.

00:15:31.580 And that really relieves a lot of pressure.

00:15:33.460 You don't have to try to be someone else.

00:15:35.300 You don't have to try to have a particular platform.

00:15:37.700 You don't even have to have a microphone.

00:15:39.700 You don't have to be an influencer to have influence, because God doesn't judge our obedience

00:15:45.160 or our effectiveness by whether we have an audience of five people or an audience of five million people.

00:15:51.220 It's how do we steward what he has given us in accordance with his word by the power of the Holy Spirit.

00:15:57.340 So that's what you can do.

00:15:59.800 I only had one debate last night.

00:16:01.260 I was hoping for more debates, but with a guy who says that he's conservative, but he actually thinks that abortion is nuanced and not black and white.

00:16:10.180 And so we had a good back and forth, and I will post that on Instagram at some point.

00:16:15.660 But speaking of this topic of replacing Charlie Kirk, who is going to take his place?

00:16:21.980 This has been a discussion and a conversation for a long time.

00:16:24.740 There was this article that came out about me in the Wall Street Journal, and the headline of the article, this is Full Screen 39,

00:16:32.600 The Christian Podcaster Rallying a New Generation of Conservative Women.

00:16:36.940 And, you know, I was very thankful for this profile.

00:16:40.080 And this journalist, her name is Elizabeth, she attended Chair of the Arrows, and she was very fascinated that, wow,

00:16:46.060 Okay, there are almost 7,000 women at this event from six different countries, from 48 different states, from all different socioeconomic backgrounds,

00:16:57.040 some people who are new Christians, some people who have been Christians for a long time,

00:17:00.900 some people who are conservative, but they're still trying to understand, you know, the spiritual world and what it means to be a Christian.

00:17:09.800 And I think she was genuinely impressed by that, and so she wanted to write an article about it, and I'm thankful.

00:17:17.540 She's someone who comes from a, you know, a liberal feminist perspective, so I didn't expect her to be on my same page with everything, 0.99

00:17:26.020 and we'll get into kind of like how that manifested itself in this article, but there's just one thing that I want to say.

00:17:31.800 So I read you the title of the article, and that was not, the title of the article was Fine and Honoring,

00:17:40.600 The Christian Podcaster Rallying a New Generation of Conservative Women.

00:17:44.640 What was actually tweeted out was different than the headline.

00:17:50.100 And I just want to read you what it said, and I want to give you my response.

00:17:53.740 In case this is something that you have heard from other people, I want to make clear what my response is to this kind of framing.

00:18:06.140 Podcaster Allie Beth Stuckey is emerging, the Wall Street Journal says, as an heir apparent to Charlie Kirk

00:18:12.200 with a message about Christianity and motherhood that resonates with young conservative women.

00:18:17.760 So let me just be clear about this, because I've noticed as I've talked to a variety of journalists,

00:18:23.500 and maybe this is happening to other conservative commentators as well, that they really want to ask me this question.

00:18:30.240 And they really want me, it seems, to answer a certain way.

00:18:33.740 And my answer has been the same.

00:18:36.080 And this is genuinely what I believe and how I feel every time, because Religion News Service also asked me this same question.

00:18:44.180 And they did print my answer, which I appreciated.

00:18:48.000 That journalist said something along the lines of, do you see yourself as like stepping into his place,

00:18:53.380 you know, evangelist, apologist, kind of trying to rally young women in the same way that he did for young men.

00:18:59.060 And what I said to her is that Charlie was an anomaly.

00:19:03.220 He was an anomaly.

00:19:04.820 He was not only an incredible evangelist and an apologist, he was also an activist.

00:19:10.040 He was an organizer.

00:19:11.120 He was a campaigner.

00:19:12.260 He led an entire organization, and he cared very much, as he should.

00:19:17.440 This was his role, and he was so good at it, at getting as many people to vote for liberty as possible.

00:19:23.320 And he did so many other things that I not only don't do, but also do not feel called or equipped to do.

00:19:30.780 And I just want it to be clear that no matter what a headline is or what the Wall Street Journal wants to put out,

00:19:39.660 that this is not at all how I or I don't think any other conservative commentator wants to be positioned.

00:19:48.920 I am very grateful for the small part that I get to play carrying the torch of evangelism and persuasion.

00:19:59.320 And I am grateful for every opportunity I have to do that.

00:20:04.780 I saw one person even say, oh, like, I'm trying to rebrand or something since Charlie tragically was assassinated.

00:20:12.200 I am exactly the same.

00:20:14.500 Those of you who have been following me, I am exactly the same.

00:20:17.920 I have not changed anything.

00:20:19.580 That's, there's my brand.

00:20:21.220 It hasn't changed.

00:20:22.340 It's exactly the same.

00:20:24.080 Those of you who know me know that I have been talking about the things that I talk about for years.

00:20:31.260 The messaging, the tone, the content, nothing has changed.

00:20:36.480 And so I am doing exactly what I told that young 13-year-old young woman girl to do at LSU.

00:20:44.080 I am running the race that God has marked out for me.

00:20:47.660 And that's not going to look the same as anyone else's.

00:20:50.440 That's the same as true for you.

00:20:53.140 And Turning Point and Erica Kirk are doing an excellent job of carrying Charlie's legacy.

00:20:59.980 And they should.

00:21:00.640 They knew him.

00:21:01.360 They worked with him every day.

00:21:03.700 They knew him very well.

00:21:05.540 And Erica and Erica alone understands Charlie's mind and what he envisioned.

00:21:11.680 And they are the people that are carrying that out.

00:21:14.600 I'm over here doing what God has called me to do.

00:21:17.620 I will continue as long as he calls me to, as long as he equips me to.

00:21:22.340 To encourage and empower the people who think like I do.

00:21:26.880 And to educate and persuade the people who don't.

00:21:29.800 That has been my goal with Relatable since the beginning.

00:21:32.680 That will continue to be my goal.

00:21:34.120 And while I love my Related Bros, my heart is Christian women.

00:21:39.580 Young Christian women.

00:21:41.000 And Christian women of all ages do.

00:21:43.240 There are people who fall outside of that demographic.

00:21:45.340 But that is my heart.

00:21:46.580 I want to disciple those women. 0.99

00:21:50.620 And that is what Relatable is about.

00:21:52.520 That will continue to be what Relatable is about.

00:21:55.260 Who I'm thinking about.

00:21:56.380 When I'm speaking.

00:21:57.640 When I'm writing.

00:21:58.520 That's my mission.

00:21:59.560 And that's my message.

00:22:00.460 So just ignore any media framing.

00:22:02.880 That is not actually trying to reflect like what I really said.

00:22:09.600 And like how I really feel.

00:22:11.700 So you heard it from me.

00:22:12.940 That kind of framing isn't coming from me.

00:22:14.920 But here is.

00:22:15.740 I'll tell you what I think is exciting.

00:22:17.740 About this Wall Street Journal article.

00:22:19.600 Not for me.

00:22:20.480 But for all of us.

00:22:21.620 And for this country.

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00:23:41.180 Okay, so the Christian podcasts are rallying a new generation of conservative women. 1.00

00:23:52.260 Let me read you some of the article here.

00:23:58.260 So she says, let's see, I don't even know.

00:24:01.180 I kind of sent the screenshots to my team out of order.

00:24:03.640 So we're just going to read them in the order that I have them and hope for the best.

00:24:07.640 So she's quoting me here.

00:24:10.800 And I just, I'm going to like, you know, I love to do this.

00:24:13.700 Like, I love to dissect articles.

00:24:15.500 I love to dissect messaging and press releases and things like that.

00:24:19.860 And I hope that it also gives you the tools to be able to dissect articles like this to

00:24:24.860 show you the subtle messaging and what they're trying to signal to their particular liberal

00:24:29.440 audience.

00:24:30.340 So here she quotes me, and this is in my opening speech.

00:24:33.520 This is a spiritual battle that's waged in our homes and in our neighborhoods.

00:24:37.640 At school, at your job, she said, she is me.

00:24:40.720 Every step you take, every decision you make, and every word you say is a declaration of

00:24:45.380 war against the enemy.

00:24:47.420 Amen, rang out across the crowd.

00:24:50.280 And something I saw throughout this article was the attempt to really highlight like the

00:24:57.320 warfare language, the battle language.

00:24:59.640 But of course, you guys know that I'm talking spiritually.

00:25:02.760 I'm talking peacefully.

00:25:04.400 And actually, I make that point that this isn't primarily about politics.

00:25:08.560 This is not primarily about making you an activist.

00:25:11.500 I said over and over again, this is a spiritual war that is waged in your homes with your children.

00:25:17.100 If you're a stay-at-home mom, if you are part of the PTA, like if you are just a neighbor

00:25:22.980 in a community, like this is a spiritual war that is being waged, that all of us are called

00:25:28.300 to fight on a daily basis by advancing the gospel in every area of our lives.

00:25:33.660 And then this description of Share the Arrows makes me laugh.

00:25:37.840 It really makes me laugh.

00:25:39.660 Outraged by progressivism and alarmed by the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

00:25:44.720 We're just alarmed.

00:25:45.840 It just was like, oh, wow, that was so surprising.

00:25:49.240 Stuckey aims to mobilize a swath of conservative Christian women ranging from dyed-in-the-wool 0.98

00:25:54.200 true believers to prairie core maha moms.

00:25:58.060 Prairie core?

00:25:58.760 Okay.

00:25:59.300 At her second annual Share the Arrows conference, women traveled from across the country and as

00:26:03.060 far away as Australia to hear the tenets of her gospel.

00:26:07.520 Christianity is under attack.

00:26:09.620 Tolerance can be ungodly.

00:26:11.140 And motherhood is queen.

00:26:12.780 Have you ever heard me say that last phrase?

00:26:16.400 Motherhood is queen? 0.99

00:26:17.460 Motherhood is a high calling.

00:26:20.660 Motherhood is beautiful.

00:26:22.480 Motherhood is amazing.

00:26:24.540 It is an incredible blessing.

00:26:26.820 Have I ever said, has anyone ever said, even on our motherhood panel, that motherhood is

00:26:32.060 queen?

00:26:32.340 No.

00:26:32.640 In fact, we talked over and over again.

00:26:35.180 This was part of my speech.

00:26:36.400 She didn't include this great alliteration that even if you are not going to be a biological

00:26:42.040 mother or even an adoptive mother, maybe God never calls you to get married, that no matter

00:26:47.500 what stage of life you are in, God's joy is available to you in Christ right now.

00:26:53.100 That's not something that you can have later on.

00:26:56.700 That's a trick of the devil to tell you that you can't be fulfilled or joyful until you get

00:27:01.320 to some stage of life, which you don't even know if it's promised to you.

00:27:06.360 You have the fullness of joy at Christ's right hand right now if you are a Christian woman

00:27:12.260 and you can channel your mothering instincts into children, into mentorship and discipleship

00:27:17.560 right now.

00:27:18.800 You don't need to direct that energy into pets, plants, profession, or politics primarily.

00:27:24.860 You channel that mothering instinct into children in some way.

00:27:29.220 She didn't include that.

00:27:30.280 She included motherhood is queen, which I did not say.

00:27:34.620 She also says Stucky sees herself competing with progressive churches for the mushy middle.

00:27:40.920 I've used that phrase for a long time.

00:27:42.760 Christians who are scared of politics or who veer to the left. 0.82

00:27:45.600 Her platform includes more than 2 million followers across her Instagram.

00:27:49.300 And then she talks more about statistics and Glenn Beck is an early supporter of me, which

00:27:58.280 is true.

00:27:59.680 And then she says in my interview with her, I talked to this journalist for a while via

00:28:04.360 Zoom.

00:28:05.260 She said Stucky said that whenever she speaks publicly, she imagines one fictional woman.

00:28:11.200 This is true.

00:28:12.180 The 35 or 40 year old suburban mom of three or four kids that is busy is trying to do her 1.00

00:28:16.740 best to glorify God in her own life, to study the Bible more, and then to raise up her kids 0.96

00:28:21.340 in a way that is godly and courageous.

00:28:24.020 Women in turn, she says, say they are drawn to Stucky because she herself fits that description.

00:28:28.780 For decades, much of the evangelical world's focus has been on young men, a group that has

00:28:33.120 been returning to traditional churches and helped elect President Trump.

00:28:36.660 Now with evangelicals growing in political power, but not in numbers, according to Public

00:28:42.100 Religion Research Institute, Stucky is assembling a large and varied cohort of conservative Christian

00:28:48.020 women and urging them to speak up on issues they believe are important. 0.91

00:28:52.520 I think that's a really important paragraph because I think that our demographic Christian

00:28:58.020 women, Christian conservative women, that we are really overlooked.

00:29:02.120 There are a lot of Christian women, you guys know, that are social justice advocates that 1.00

00:29:07.520 believe in all of the BLM propaganda, like our little sliver over here, where we are truly

00:29:14.080 conservative, trying our best to be biblical on all of these things, avoiding toxic empathy,

00:29:19.380 not believing secular narratives on things like immigration, like we definitely are in 0.57

00:29:24.260 the minority, but we are here and we are a significant voting block.

00:29:29.120 And I do think a lot of people overlook us.

00:29:31.500 And I think that it is interesting that the media now, I mean, we've got Dallas Morning

00:29:35.660 News, we've got the Wall Street Journal, we've got the New York Times, the Washington Post

00:29:40.480 also published something in PR, all about Share the Arrows.

00:29:45.440 And it's not about me, it's about us.

00:29:48.460 And that even the mainstream and the secular world is noticing, hey, something's going on

00:29:53.740 over there.

00:29:54.760 Like something's happening there and I don't really know what it is and I don't really know

00:29:58.880 how to describe it.

00:30:01.400 But clearly, this demographic, these women that we thought all kind of would eventually 0.99

00:30:07.740 go over to the left, they're still hanging on.

00:30:11.740 And these aren't.

00:30:12.560 What's interesting also about our cohort?

00:30:15.140 Yes, I would say the vast majority of us voted for Donald Trump.

00:30:18.440 You guys know I voted for Donald Trump three times now and encourage my audience to do the

00:30:23.640 same, but we're not your traditional like MAGA Republicans.

00:30:28.980 We don't necessarily look like that.

00:30:31.020 And I think that the media wants us to look like that.

00:30:33.580 And I think they want us to believe that we unconditionally support the Republican Party

00:30:37.800 and every politician, that we idolize Donald Trump.

00:30:40.460 And you know what this what this journalist pointed out?

00:30:46.340 She said this.

00:30:47.060 This is Fullscreen46.

00:30:48.200 Um, study, uh, Stuckey didn't address Trump or other politicians at the event.

00:30:54.120 It wasn't meant to be a political rally.

00:30:55.920 She told the journal, I care about the issues underneath the issues.

00:30:59.920 And that is exactly right.

00:31:01.580 And I think that that is probably a little scary for the secular world that we are not

00:31:08.100 just looking at superficial politics, that our worldview and our politics are grounded in

00:31:13.960 much deeper convictions and much deeper beliefs.

00:31:18.080 The journalists that were there didn't hear any crazy conspiracy theories.

00:31:22.240 They didn't hear, you know, a political rallying cry.

00:31:25.040 You know how much I believe that politics are important, but something much deeper and more

00:31:30.340 theological than that, more grounded than that.

00:31:33.360 And I'm very thankful that at least the media is trying to understand us and who we are.

00:31:38.800 We just have to continue to be sweet, to be bold, to be persuasive, um, to be compassionate

00:31:46.520 without compromising one inch.

00:31:50.500 So I thought this was funny.

00:31:52.380 Um, she said in Fullscreen47, among the Christian stuff, she puts in quotes that Stuckey believes

00:31:57.760 the Bible deems true.

00:31:58.980 I just believe it.

00:32:00.540 There are only two genders determined at conception. 0.63

00:32:03.540 Marriage is between a man and a woman. 0.55

00:32:05.420 She also believes abortion is murder and in vitro fertilization, surrogate parenthood and 0.98

00:32:10.560 hormonal birth control are wrong, including in marriage.

00:32:13.720 Um, this is true.

00:32:15.060 And I have done a ton of episodes on this.

00:32:17.440 This kind of shocked, I think some of you on Instagram, when I posted this, maybe your

00:32:20.860 new followers, but you can type in on YouTube, Allie Beth Stuckey IVF or Allie Beth Stuckey

00:32:26.300 surrogacy, Allie Beth Stuckey hormonal birth control.

00:32:28.840 And all of my episodes for the past five years on those subjects will come up.

00:32:32.660 Um, I thought this was cool too.

00:32:34.300 She talked to some of you, Fullscreen48, Elizabeth Olson, a 43 year old nurse from Apple Valley,

00:32:40.780 Minnesota, who brought her mom to the conference, left feeling encouraged.

00:32:43.840 There's something about being around other Christians, knowing you won't be mocked or 0.99

00:32:47.360 looked down on as stupid for believing in the Bible. 0.99

00:32:49.780 She says, like many other women at the conference, Olson finds the national discord of the past 1.00

00:32:54.460 several years distressing.

00:32:56.060 Increasingly, people feel like they can't say what they really think.

00:32:58.520 She credits Stuckey and the other speakers with challenging her to speak, uh, speak up

00:33:04.000 and think more critically.

00:33:05.400 We're tired of living under the weight of being told we're hateful when we know we aren't.

00:33:11.700 So true.

00:33:13.000 We want to take the thoughts and feelings of those we disagree with into consideration,

00:33:16.760 but still tell the truth.

00:33:19.340 So that's why people came to share the arrows.

00:33:22.700 They came to have no fear of man, to remember that they're not alone.

00:33:26.060 Someone who lives in Minnesota, someone who lives in California, someone who lives in Oregon,

00:33:30.960 it's really easy for them to feel alone.

00:33:33.760 Fullscreen44, uh, Catherine Metrick, uh, 37 year old stay at home mom, uh, from California

00:33:40.100 drove 20 hours with 10 women from her church, including her mother-in-law and one-year-old daughter.

00:33:44.660 She called it absolutely wonderful to be in a room with other women who share the same

00:33:49.400 values I do and to worship them.

00:33:51.400 I mean, it really is just amazing.

00:33:53.260 The people who came from all across the country made the sacrifices necessary to do that.

00:33:58.040 And people who came from Australia.

00:34:00.800 And again, it just goes to show that something is going on spiritually, not just in this country,

00:34:06.960 but in the world.

00:34:08.080 And you know, people complain so much about women being liberal, which yes, I've complained

00:34:13.780 about that too.

00:34:14.760 It is something worth complaining about and, you know, being disturbed by, but I am trying

00:34:21.080 my best in my small way to persuade women and to change women's mind using the Bible 0.96

00:34:27.220 and using the power of persuasion from a very genuine place.

00:34:30.900 I believe these things because I believe I see them in God's word and I want you to believe

00:34:34.160 them too.

00:34:35.160 So take my arguments and see if when you weigh them against truth, weigh them against logic,

00:34:40.860 like, do they hold up?

00:34:42.780 That's what I'm trying to do.

00:34:44.220 And a lot of people want me to address like criticism that I got after share the arrows

00:34:48.460 from people saying a woman shouldn't be doing this.

00:34:50.780 A woman shouldn't be talking in this way. 1.00

00:34:52.800 A woman shouldn't be on stage. 1.00

00:34:54.500 A woman shouldn't have this role. 1.00

00:34:56.280 And I don't want to give air to all of those people because I know they really, really want

00:35:00.460 to be platforms and they want the attention and they want your eyeballs and your ears.

00:35:05.440 And I'm not going to give them that, but look, I am a woman who has been called to try to

00:35:13.860 persuade and equip other women.

00:35:16.600 I have no desire to go outside of that.

00:35:19.660 I don't have any desire to be like a leader of men.

00:35:24.300 That is, that is not my goal, but you can't complain that women are liberal and then also 1.00

00:35:29.300 complain about the person that is trying really hard to change that.

00:35:34.760 Um, so that's all I'm going to say about that.

00:35:39.000 Um, she also mentions that there were a lot of babies there and that I said from the stage

00:35:44.400 how much I love that I did.

00:35:46.480 I loved hearing all of the babies from stage.

00:35:49.920 Um, and then let's see the last thing that I had shared that she posted.

00:35:57.120 And this is true that sharing the arrows I said means that we are staring down the darkness

00:36:03.980 together.

00:36:05.400 And that is what it means to share the arrows.

00:36:07.640 That's what we're doing.

00:36:08.660 And thank you to all of you.

00:36:10.300 You've seen a lot of the heat that I've taken over the past few weeks and I'm not trying to

00:36:14.820 be a victim or draw attention to that.

00:36:17.080 It's part of it.

00:36:17.980 It's part of this.

00:36:19.040 You know, I've heard before this quote, I think it's actually from Todd Wagner, that

00:36:22.800 leadership is a commitment to being misunderstood, um, but not only misunderstood, but also misrepresented.

00:36:29.820 Um, and that's just part of it.

00:36:32.020 But I do really, really appreciate all of your prayers and the arrows that you have shared

00:36:36.960 with me.

00:36:37.600 It means a lot.

00:36:38.480 I've got the best audience in the world and you know what?

00:36:41.000 The wall street journal is noticing that.

00:36:42.960 So praise God, praise God.

00:36:44.840 All right.

00:36:45.520 We've got a couple more things to get into.

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00:38:42.600 I want to read you this quote by Jen Hatmaker, y'all Jen Hatmaker.

00:38:49.060 It's really something.

00:38:50.820 Um, this is an Oprah magazine.

00:38:52.880 Okay.

00:38:53.160 She just had a new book come out.

00:38:54.600 She's had a lot of good PR, uh, when it comes to this book and it is about the truly,

00:39:00.280 and I don't say this with any snark whatsoever, the truly tragic disintegration of her marriage.

00:39:05.260 But what is even more tragic is the disintegration of her Christianity and how she has adopted 0.99

00:39:10.840 secularism, how she has now decided to worship the God of self rather than the God of scripture.

00:39:16.520 And that is not freedom.

00:39:18.380 That's not fulfillment.

00:39:19.880 That's not satisfaction.

00:39:21.080 That will lead to a dead end.

00:39:22.740 But she has exchanged Christianity for these new age beliefs that of course, Oprah herself

00:39:29.180 has represented for a very long time.

00:39:31.520 So this doesn't surprise me.

00:39:33.380 So here's what Jen Hatmaker has to say. 0.84

00:39:37.340 Women contain a deep wisdom that not only leads us well, but could heal the earth. 1.00

00:39:44.300 When my internalized misogyny asserts its conditioned response to defend abusive systems,

00:39:49.800 my body overrides it immediately.

00:39:52.180 She knows.

00:39:53.560 She tells me the truth.

00:39:55.560 She always tells me the truth.

00:39:57.960 Can I just pause right there for a second?

00:40:00.860 You know, sometimes my body tells me that I'm hungry after I've eaten like a thousand

00:40:04.880 calories.

00:40:06.040 You know what?

00:40:06.920 Sometimes my body is like, you need crumble cookies right now.

00:40:11.820 Sometimes my body, because I'm tired and because I'm, you know, like stressed about something,

00:40:20.120 sometimes my body tells me you should be irritable.

00:40:23.300 You should be rude.

00:40:24.800 You should be snarky with this person.

00:40:26.980 Sometimes my body, my hormones, my hunger, my lack of sleep, the million things that go

00:40:34.660 on in the world that affect our bodies tell us things that are not true.

00:40:40.200 They tell us things that are not true.

00:40:42.120 They give us cues that don't actually point us in the right direction.

00:40:46.880 Our body is not a source of truth.

00:40:50.120 Our bodies are made in the image of God, but they are not like God.

00:40:53.340 Now, gosh, what did the serpent say to Eve in the Garden of Eden?

00:40:58.300 You can be like God.

00:41:01.480 You can be like God.

00:41:02.980 You will not surely die if you take a bite of the fruit of this tree, which the God who

00:41:10.020 created you and loves you strictly forbade you from eating.

00:41:14.920 You will not surely die.

00:41:16.460 You'll just have the wisdom and the power that God had.

00:41:19.680 Jen Hatmaker has taken a bite of the apple and she believes that her body is like God,

00:41:24.720 has this kind of Gnostic transcendent knowledge, this like ancient goddess-like wisdom that

00:41:34.520 can tell her what is true.

00:41:36.940 What a heavy burden to bear that we have to be the interpreters of the truth that our body

00:41:42.180 is trying to tell us.

00:41:43.180 That's not to say that our emotions or that our hunger or that the cues that our body tells

00:41:48.280 us don't tell us anything.

00:41:49.440 Of course they can.

00:41:50.140 This is data.

00:41:50.900 This is information that our minds have to process, but they all have to go through the

00:41:55.900 prism of absolute truth, which of course is Jesus Christ, which is the word of God.

00:42:01.820 So Jen Hatmaker goes on to say, our life's work is to reject those capitalistic patriarchal

00:42:07.060 narrative systems that have conspired to keep us at war with our bodies.

00:42:11.440 What?

00:42:12.560 What?

00:42:13.720 How has capitalism kept me at war with my body?

00:42:17.100 How has the patriarchy kept me at war with my body?

00:42:20.600 Where's the patriarchy?

00:42:21.720 By the way, is the patriarchy in the room with us right now?

00:42:25.220 How is the patriarchy making you at war with your body?

00:42:28.300 Maybe we just need to flesh that out in a conversation.

00:42:31.740 Capitalism makes my body very happy because it means I don't have to stand in a bread line.

00:42:36.320 I'm happy about how capitalism allows me to go to a gym that is competing for my business

00:42:44.540 and allows me to choose between lots of different food options.

00:42:48.240 I'm very happy that capitalism actually doesn't make me at war with my body.

00:42:52.860 And by the way, it's not capitalism or patriarchy that is actually making women at war with their

00:42:58.100 bodies.

00:42:58.440 It's feminism. 1.00

00:42:59.220 Because feminism has degraded this special and unique capacity to give and to bear and sustain 1.00

00:43:07.500 life.

00:43:09.180 So she's got it exactly wrong.

00:43:10.560 She also goes on to say, if we hate how we look, these systems own us.

00:43:13.880 If we hate what we want, they dominate us.

00:43:17.040 If we hate what we crave, they control us.

00:43:20.120 What is even?

00:43:21.040 I don't even, I don't even know.

00:43:23.880 I don't know.

00:43:25.100 You know, sometimes things sound really profound, but this is what I want you to do when you're

00:43:30.760 reading something or listening to something like this.

00:43:32.700 Same thing with Glennon Doyle.

00:43:34.420 All of these people.

00:43:36.120 There's actually quite a few people that do this.

00:43:38.340 They say something that sounds really eloquent or sounds really catchy because the pacing

00:43:43.520 is right and the cadence is right.

00:43:48.760 But then you start thinking about it and you're like, I don't think that actually meant

00:43:52.780 anything.

00:43:53.700 And that's actually the hallmark of really good propaganda, of effective propaganda.

00:43:57.960 Because you, like trans women are women, or love is love, or social justice is justice,

00:44:04.320 or abortion is health care. 0.76

00:44:05.420 Suddenly, like it arrests your thinking.

00:44:08.160 So you're no longer critically analyzing anymore, but you're just repeating the circular mantras.

00:44:12.920 But if you don't define those terms, then of course, those circular mantras don't mean anything.

00:44:17.760 So I don't understand if we hate how we look at these systems on a spot.

00:44:22.680 I don't know.

00:44:23.300 I don't know.

00:44:24.360 I don't know.

00:44:26.140 They get to master us with impunity.

00:44:28.380 When we despise ourselves, we do their dirty work and in so doing become their most powerful

00:44:34.620 co-conspirators.

00:44:36.380 Okay.

00:44:36.900 I want one of you out there.

00:44:38.280 I have a project for you.

00:44:39.620 Those of you who are watching this on YouTube, I want you to interpret this for me.

00:44:44.180 I want you to break this down.

00:44:46.380 I'm sure that I am just so, my mind is so dominated by capitalism and the patriarchy

00:44:51.960 that I cannot understand what Jen Hatmaker's truth-filled body is trying to convey to all

00:44:58.800 of us.

00:44:59.920 Our bodies are beautiful, she says, truly, all of them, gorgeous inside and out.

00:45:04.380 Okay.

00:45:04.700 I do believe because all people are made in the image of God, there is beauty in every

00:45:08.520 single person.

00:45:10.040 They're deserving of good lo- what?

00:45:12.300 I didn't read this full thing before.

00:45:15.640 Okay.

00:45:15.920 I don't even know if I can say, okay. 0.55

00:45:17.560 She says, they're deserving of the good lotions, the good sex, the good words, the good interventions.

00:45:23.220 They should be heeded like the safest, smartest, truest, most knowing source of wisdom possible

00:45:27.480 because they are, but they're not.

00:45:31.360 Our bodies lie to us all the time.

00:45:33.860 Our bodies are fallible.

00:45:35.540 Our bodies decay.

00:45:37.040 Our bodies break down.

00:45:39.460 Our bodies fail us in a lot of ways.

00:45:42.620 It's true, she says, your body is not the enemy.

00:45:45.600 That is true.

00:45:47.180 And I want to tell that to people who have an abortion, that your body, your baby's body,

00:45:53.180 which is in your body, is not the enemy.

00:45:54.720 Your biology, the reality that you were made male or female at conception, that's not the

00:46:02.380 enemy.

00:46:03.820 People who identify as the opposite sex, which Jen Hatmaker 100% supports, even in children,

00:46:09.360 she's been outspoken about this, protect trans kids.

00:46:13.000 People who are mutilating their bodies through hormone blockers, puberty blockers and cross-sex 1.00

00:46:18.440 hormones and double mastectomies, that is literally bloody war with your body.

00:46:23.780 So she doesn't even agree with what she's saying.

00:46:27.580 I do, that your body is not the enemy.

00:46:31.120 But your body is the most knowing source of wisdom possible?

00:46:35.260 No, that's the Lord.

00:46:38.340 She is your best friend, your body, says Jen Hatmaker. 1.00

00:46:41.080 Trust her.

00:46:42.160 Love her.

00:46:43.420 Wear the bikini, beloveds.

00:46:47.400 That got a laugh in the room.

00:46:49.020 You don't need to trust your body.

00:46:53.240 You should love your body.

00:46:55.220 You should steward your body well.

00:46:56.740 You should care for your body.

00:46:58.220 You absolutely should.

00:47:00.700 Because your body is a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit.

00:47:03.820 Because your body was knitted together with intention and purpose and love in the womb.

00:47:08.040 Your body matters.

00:47:09.680 The body matters so much in Christianity.

00:47:12.540 I mean, Jesus became flesh and dwelt among us.

00:47:16.340 He died bodily.

00:47:17.720 He rose again bodily.

00:47:19.280 He ascended bodily.

00:47:20.780 He is coming back bodily.

00:47:22.520 And there is going to be a bodily resurrection of the believers.

00:47:25.800 The body matters very much in Christianity.

00:47:28.980 It actually doesn't matter.

00:47:30.820 In Jen Hatmaker's New Age worldview, the belief that you can deny your biology to become something

00:47:37.300 different, that you can deny your innate capability to bear a child through abortion, even the

00:47:45.440 denial of reproductive reality when two men or two women try to marry each other.

00:47:50.060 You know, Elisa Childers told me something, and I used it in my Jubilee debate, and this

00:47:54.480 comes from her to me.

00:47:56.300 But she said, you know, everyone has like a full digestive system, a full circulatory system.

00:48:02.140 We have full systems in our body.

00:48:03.800 The only system in our body that is incomplete, that we only have half of, is our reproductive

00:48:10.120 system.

00:48:11.040 Everyone only has half of the reproductive system. 1.00

00:48:13.760 Your digestive system can do what it needs to do by itself.

00:48:16.500 Same with your circulatory system.

00:48:18.100 Your reproductive system cannot reproduce without the other half of the reproductive system. 1.00

00:48:24.260 Don't you think that science, like if our body is really a source of wisdom and insight,

00:48:28.420 don't you think our reproductive system tells us a little bit of something about how we should

00:48:33.580 live?

00:48:34.740 And of course, that's God in his creation telling us that.

00:48:38.280 And by the way, none of this means that you should be wearing the bikini.

00:48:42.340 Like that's a whole other conversation.

00:48:44.540 We have talked about this before about modesty.

00:48:47.480 It doesn't necessarily mean legalistic rules about what you are wearing, but there are good

00:48:52.820 rules.

00:48:53.820 And modesty is good.

00:48:54.860 It starts in the heart.

00:48:55.700 It's about the dignity and the honor and the humility of the heart.

00:48:58.340 But that should manifest itself in what we wear externally.

00:49:02.760 Bikini probably doesn't fit into that. 0.95

00:49:05.020 And I don't see how anything that she says has to do with that.

00:49:08.380 So don't listen to Jen Hamaker. 1.00

00:49:10.380 Okay.

00:49:11.140 Don't listen to Glennon Doyle.

00:49:12.880 They do not have a gospel of liberation for you.

00:49:15.600 This is a burdensome gospel that places you in the place of God. 0.83

00:49:18.980 And you make a horrible God. 0.99

00:49:20.480 I make a horrible God. 1.00

00:49:21.680 We make very cruel, stupid gods. 1.00

00:49:23.340 Let the God of the universe be God. 1.00

00:49:25.740 Submit to him.

00:49:26.740 Go to him for knowledge and wisdom and who you are and why you matter.

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00:50:54.880 So I asked my audience before my dad's episode, what is your biggest national concern, political

00:51:02.820 concern by far?

00:51:04.960 So I've got, I don't know, 845,000 followers on Instagram.

00:51:11.420 Most of them Christian conservative women.

00:51:13.280 And so I got thousands of responses.

00:51:15.880 What is your biggest national political concern?

00:51:18.040 By far.

00:51:18.940 And this actually surprised me.

00:51:20.280 The number one answer was Islam. 1.00

00:51:22.640 The growing dominance of Islam. 0.98

00:51:25.240 The feeling that, oh, these churches are being replaced by mosques. 1.00

00:51:30.120 And oh, wow.

00:51:31.220 These leaders of places like New York City and Dearborn and Minnesota are Muslim.

00:51:37.780 This is starting to look like Europe. 0.89

00:51:39.320 This is starting to look a lot like the UK.

00:51:41.420 And of course, you listened to or watched my episode with Raymond Ibrahim, and we talked

00:51:45.980 about what Islam actually is.

00:51:47.680 What does it actually believe?

00:51:48.700 What does the Quran actually say?

00:51:50.360 Why are there some verses that seem peaceful and some verses that seem very violent?

00:51:54.740 What does Islam as a religion actually teach?

00:51:58.360 And why does it manifest itself the way that it does?

00:52:01.260 And why do Muslims move to non-Sharia countries if they want Sharia enacted everywhere? 0.99

00:52:08.660 We answered all of those questions.

00:52:10.080 He answered all of those questions.

00:52:11.880 And a lot of you are very concerned by that.

00:52:14.300 And so I posted this on X that by far, this was my biggest answer.

00:52:19.620 And a lot of people, of course, agreed.

00:52:21.900 And then I got this really strange reaction from some people on the right or who say that

00:52:26.160 they're on the right anyway, saying, oh, this was this is not true.

00:52:29.920 I don't believe you.

00:52:31.700 This is a post that's getting paid for.

00:52:33.880 This is a sudden shift.

00:52:35.300 This is like a propaganda movement from like the pro-Israel crowd on the right from dispensationalist,

00:52:41.780 blah, blah, blah.

00:52:42.280 Okay.

00:52:42.580 You know what? 0.72

00:52:43.360 Pray to the Lord to heal your brain worms.

00:52:45.220 Are you kidding me? 0.95

00:52:46.300 Like we have been talking about the dangers of Islam at least since 9-11. 1.00

00:52:51.080 Conservatives have been talking about the dangers of Islam for a very long time.

00:52:55.580 Okay.

00:52:56.560 This has been at the forefront of conversation at least on and off for years.

00:53:02.920 This has nothing to do with Israel.

00:53:04.680 I'm not a dispensationalist, by the way.

00:53:07.520 So you can't get me on that.

00:53:09.040 I don't have that kind of theology that you guys think that all evangelicals have about Israel.

00:53:15.520 I don't have that theology.

00:53:16.780 So you're just not going to get me there.

00:53:19.280 It is concerning to me that there is a segment of the right that is soft on Islam.

00:53:26.180 That you think that Islam and Christianity have things in common. 0.99

00:53:29.700 That you think that there is some alliance happening between Christians and Muslims because we both don't agree with homosexuality.

00:53:36.880 That is not happening. 0.70

00:53:38.580 If you believe that, you are delusional.

00:53:41.940 You are delusional. 0.99

00:53:42.960 I'm not saying every one individual Muslim wants to kill all Christians. 0.99

00:53:46.220 I'm not saying that. 0.96

00:53:47.060 But Islam as a religion is responsible for most of the persecution against Christians. 0.93

00:53:53.580 I mean, our brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are being slaughtered right now are being slaughtered by the Islamic regime there in Nigeria. 1.00

00:54:02.400 And the government is doing nothing about it.

00:54:04.560 This is happening throughout the world.

00:54:06.580 So I'm very confused by this.

00:54:09.960 Does it just come from this animosity that a lot of these people on the right now have toward Israel?

00:54:16.400 Just understand that you are the ones who have shifted on that.

00:54:19.520 It's not us who's shifted.

00:54:20.640 Like, you don't have to pay for someone to have eyes.

00:54:25.620 All you have to have is eyes and ears to see that Islam leads to domination, to conquest, to degradation, and to tyranny. 1.00

00:54:34.800 Every single place that it goes into more glorification of violence, that it is anti-Christian, and it hates Christianity. 0.91

00:54:43.340 And by the way, like, Muslims typically vote Democrat.

00:54:47.560 They typically are on the progressive side, and a lot of people are confused by that.

00:54:51.940 Why would they do that when they align with conservative values on so many things?

00:54:55.880 Oh, did you not realize the alliance that is shaping up?

00:54:59.420 You didn't realize that the one commonality between LGBTQ activists and Islam is a hatred of Christianity?

00:55:07.340 That is the common thread that's going on there.

00:55:10.300 Yeah, you're right. 0.83

00:55:11.080 Most Muslims are not progressive. 1.00

00:55:12.600 They certainly don't believe in homosexuality. 0.98

00:55:14.980 They'll push that right off the roof. 0.95

00:55:17.560 It's a hatred of Christianity. 0.97

00:55:20.820 That is what is going on there.

00:55:23.180 I am concerned with a lot of changes that I'm seeing on the right.

00:55:27.140 The truth is that Charlie Kirk kept a lot of crazy at bay.

00:55:31.740 And he expanded the parameters of what could be talked about a lot.

00:55:38.300 And he expanded the parameters of debate.

00:55:40.420 And he certainly was a big tent guy.

00:55:42.740 But there were certain things that were just, like, off limits.

00:55:45.980 And he was kind of a gatekeeper, honestly, of mainstream Christianity.

00:55:50.720 And now we don't have that.

00:55:52.700 And so now we're platforming the worst people in the world who are, by no definition, conservative.

00:56:00.780 And I just don't know.

00:56:02.620 I don't know what the future of conservatism looks like.

00:56:06.120 I don't know what the future of the right looks like.

00:56:07.880 I don't know what the future of the Republican Party looks like.

00:56:10.840 I just don't know.

00:56:11.600 And it can make me really sad, honestly, and really anxious.

00:56:16.720 Because I think things were a lot more clear when, like, Charlie was at the helm.

00:56:22.080 And now it's very confusing and troubling.

00:56:25.660 Some of the biggest voices are not biblically sound, are not morally clear.

00:56:31.240 They're moral relativists.

00:56:33.440 And, yeah, I don't know.

00:56:36.340 I don't know where this leads us.

00:56:38.160 But to go back to the beginning of this episode, the only thing that I focus on is doing what

00:56:45.480 I was called to do and focusing on my audience and my calling and my platform and just having

00:56:54.300 to pray and trust God with the rest of it.

00:56:56.840 And that's all any of us can do is the next right thing in faith with excellence and for

00:57:00.000 the glory of God.

00:57:01.260 All right.

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00:58:01.640 Okay, y'all.

00:58:07.560 On Friday, we will be back and we will be talking to the author of the book, Lies My Therapist

00:58:15.800 Told Me.

00:58:17.100 This is a Christian perspective about the lies on parenting. 0.65

00:58:20.780 And y'all, I have had one line from that interview ringing in my head every single day.

00:58:28.860 And this is just think about this before the interview, and then you'll hear him explain

00:58:33.660 what this means.

00:58:34.820 Your body cannot make you sin.

00:58:37.400 Your body cannot make you sin.

00:58:41.280 You are not bound by your hormones or how your body makes you feel.

00:58:45.440 Your body cannot make you sin.

00:58:47.960 He is unpacking so many lies with biblical truth on Friday.

00:58:51.220 We have so much to look forward to in that conversation.

00:58:53.880 I think it's going to be really educational and refreshing for you.

00:58:56.560 All right.

00:58:56.920 That's all we've got time for today.

00:58:58.340 We will see you back here on Friday.

00:58:59.640 Bye.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 29, 2025

Ep 1260 ｜ Charlie Kirk’s Replacement & Jen Hatmaker’s Shocking Paganism

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