Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1270 ｜ Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria？｜ Judd Saul

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00:01:01.060 What is really going on in Nigeria?

00:01:03.340 Is this actually a Christian genocide?

00:01:06.040 Who is funding and arming these militant Islamic groups?

00:01:11.520 And are Muslims really converting to Christianity there?

00:01:15.900 Today, we are talking to a missionary and the head of the organization equipping the persecuted.

00:01:20.880 His name is Judd Saul, and he is going to tell us exactly what we need to know about Nigeria

00:01:27.020 and what Christians here need to do.

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00:01:37.960 Mr. Judd Saul, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

00:01:50.680 Could you tell everyone who you are and what you do?

00:01:53.180 My name is Judd Saul.

00:01:54.420 I am the executive director and founder of EquippingThePersecuted.org, and I'm also the

00:02:00.060 founder of TruthNigeria.com.

00:02:02.200 Okay.

00:02:02.660 Tell us a little bit about your testimony.

00:02:04.900 How did you start doing what you do?

00:02:07.960 Well, my testimony is, is 2009, I had my wake-up call with God, repented, came back to him.

00:02:15.880 I grew up in a Christian home, but left the faith, and then I came back in 2009.

00:02:19.740 And then my grandfather, who's a lay evangelist, he's a guy that shares the gospel everywhere,

00:02:26.060 still hands out gospel tracts.

00:02:27.140 He's 90 years old, still hands out gospel tracts at Walmarts.

00:02:29.420 I was working with a Nigerian, a missionary to Nigeria, and brought him back to speak about

00:02:36.740 what was going on in Nigeria.

00:02:38.340 And I just felt an immediate calling that the Lord laid it on my heart to go serve, to go to Nigeria.

00:02:44.740 So in 2011, I went for my first time, and I kept on going back and serving every year.

00:02:51.680 But as I kept on going back and serving, we saw the attacks against Christians increase.

00:02:58.280 And I saw very few organizations or missionaries doing anything about it.

00:03:04.060 And so that culminated to starting in 2019, I started equipping the persecuted,

00:03:09.220 a mission dedicated to helping persecuted Christians in Nigeria.

00:03:13.480 Tell us what is actually going on there.

00:03:15.920 There are a lot of conflicting reports, and we see the really difficult-to-watch videos.

00:03:21.880 But give us a lay of the land.

00:03:24.580 What's happening right now is a real-life, systematic jihad against Christians 0.78

00:03:29.960 perpetrated by radical Islamists from the north.

00:03:33.660 And over the course of the last 30 years, the population of the Fulani tribe has exploded,

00:03:40.520 and they practice a very radical form of Islam.

00:03:43.080 And as they have expanded, they've been able to take over and get more political power

00:03:48.340 and take over more states.

00:03:50.500 And these states become Sharia law states, and they're just working their way further south, 0.82

00:03:55.800 which is more of a Christian population is what they're running into.

00:03:59.840 And so as they go in, I call it conquering of a nation by a thousand attacks.

00:04:06.740 One little attack here, one little village here, one little attack here.

00:04:10.340 It's not just one giant offensive where they're just trying to take over a whole country at once.

00:04:17.480 It's just little by little over time.

00:04:20.120 It's not just one big crusade.

00:04:22.200 It's the death by a thousand cuts.

00:04:23.880 Yeah, death by a thousand cuts.

00:04:25.100 And that's what's happening in Nigeria right now.

00:04:27.220 Okay, tell us a little bit more about the Fulani tribe.

00:04:29.980 You said that it's exploded in the past few years.

00:04:32.600 Why is that?

00:04:33.220 Do we know?

00:04:33.660 So they have moved in from the Sahel.

00:04:36.380 They're not indigenous to Nigeria.

00:04:38.140 They came in from Northern Africa, Chad, Niger, and then they're working their way into other 0.98

00:04:44.480 countries, but they focused on Nigeria in particular because they believe if that they can take

00:04:52.720 Nigeria, then they can take all over all of Africa. 0.99

00:04:56.420 Why is that?

00:04:57.960 Nigeria is the most populous country in Africa.

00:05:01.040 Oh, really?

00:05:01.520 And it's one of the most rich in natural resources.

00:05:05.080 So if they can take over Nigeria, the rest of the country goes because there's no other country 1.00

00:05:10.720 in Africa that matches the population of Nigeria.

00:05:13.200 Now, obviously, Islam is inherently about submission because that's what Islam means. 1.00

00:05:20.620 And that's why the vast majority of designated terror groups around the world are Islamic. 0.99

00:05:25.760 But not every Islamic group acts like this, going into villages and killing Christians in 0.88

00:05:32.760 their churches.

00:05:33.240 So what is it about this Fulani tribe that makes them so incredibly aggressive? 1.00

00:05:39.240 They practice a very radical form of Islam that originated in Saudi Arabia.

00:05:44.420 It's the same form of Islam that Al-Qaeda and ISIS have. 0.64

00:05:49.480 And it's a very dominant form of Islam where, I mean, if you disagree with what we believe in, 0.96

00:05:56.140 they feel they have the right to kill you, even if it's fellow Muslims. 0.99

00:05:59.880 If they're not hardcore as the Fulani are, they feel it is their duty by Allah to go kill these people 1.00

00:06:07.500 and take their land. 0.70

00:06:08.220 And that kind of brings me to a question that I've seen some disagreement about.

00:06:13.780 Some people saying this is not a Christian genocide because Muslims, as you said, are also being

00:06:20.080 killed.

00:06:20.580 What is the truth there?

00:06:22.580 We have a report coming out next month, and the actual numbers will show that the ratio is

00:06:29.340 five to one.

00:06:30.360 For every Muslim killed, it's five Christians that are killed. 0.98

00:06:33.600 Wow. 0.68

00:06:33.860 And what you don't see in Nigeria are mosques being burned and destroyed and Muslim villages 0.97

00:06:38.780 completely ransacked and taken over versus the Christian villages where you have over 0.98

00:06:43.800 10,000 churches that have been destroyed and nearly 800 Christian communities completely

00:06:48.880 wiped off the map.

00:06:50.420 Wow.

00:06:51.440 And the Nigerian government, what are they doing?

00:06:55.280 The Nigerian government is complicit in these attacks, and they are spending lots of money 0.93

00:07:00.040 in resources to try to keep the status quo because the Fulani have infiltrated the Nigerian 1.00

00:07:05.540 government.

00:07:06.060 They've infiltrated the military, the entire security apparatus in Nigeria. 0.55

00:07:11.060 And so it's like a, I say Nigeria likes to lie to itself, but it likes to have a dog and 1.00

00:07:16.760 pony show where they say, you know, let's say an attack happens.

00:07:21.740 No one ever gets arrested.

00:07:28.600 The Christians that may have tried to acquire some arms to arm themselves will get arrested 1.00

00:07:33.980 and they'll get punished.

00:07:36.220 The people trying to defend their villages end up getting arrested by the military and

00:07:39.160 put in prison while the perpetrators, the guys actually doing the killing, get away scot

00:07:42.860 free.

00:07:43.420 Yeah.

00:07:43.880 And let's say a terrorist does get arrested.

00:07:45.820 They're let out the next day.

00:07:47.080 And the Nigerian government, when I say they're very complicit, Truth Nigeria and our organization

00:07:55.360 issued over 100 terror alerts since 2024 with 90% accuracy.

00:08:02.820 We knew and had information that attack was going to occur where it was going to occur.

00:08:08.180 And in every instance, our policy is to notify the Nigerian police and military of what we

00:08:13.780 find out.

00:08:14.300 And in the majority of those cases, the Nigerian military police and government ignored our

00:08:21.340 terror alerts and never intervened during these attacks.

00:08:24.360 How do you get that information?

00:08:26.800 We created truth, Nigeria.com.

00:08:29.120 It's a way for us to give an outlet to journalists in Nigeria to actually share what's actually

00:08:34.780 happening.

00:08:35.800 And we became a trusted source by villages and local community leaders all over the country.

00:08:40.820 And they saw us as a, hey, you know, a trusted source of information.

00:08:46.920 And so that's how we get it.

00:08:48.320 We have people all over the country saying, hey, we found this out.

00:08:51.160 And then we investigate, say, to verify, is this really happening?

00:08:54.900 Is this true?

00:08:56.440 And we put the information out there.

00:08:58.000 But like I said, we have a long track record of the Nigerian government knowing where attacks

00:09:03.180 were going to occur and when and doing nothing.

00:09:05.860 Mm-hmm.

00:09:07.400 And what do you know about the religious history of Nigeria?

00:09:11.500 Because there are so many Christians there.

00:09:13.460 There are a lot of Muslims.

00:09:14.920 How did that religious makeup happen? 1.00

00:09:18.860 Well, when Islam spread through northern Africa, it made its way into Nigeria. 0.72

00:09:24.060 And most of the early on, the religions in Nigeria was, you know, like traditional religions,

00:09:29.020 witchcraft or however you want to put it.

00:09:31.180 But then missionaries came in in the late 1800s and the early 1900s, bringing the gospel

00:09:37.200 to Nigeria.

00:09:37.980 And Nigeria was once 70% Christian.

00:09:40.480 Yeah.

00:09:41.100 And 30% Muslim in the north. 0.73

00:09:43.120 But because of all the attacks and the insecurity and everything going on, it's now 50-50.

00:09:48.560 Mm-hmm.

00:09:50.180 And because we've just lost the lives of so many Christians. 0.99

00:09:53.240 We've lost the lives of so many Christians. 1.00

00:09:54.960 People were afraid.

00:09:56.140 And then they left Christianity because they didn't want to get killed and submitted to Islam. 0.99

00:10:00.840 Right.

00:10:01.180 And that's what's happening right now.

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00:11:14.720 Where is this militant arm of radical Islam, the Fulani tribe, getting all of their resources, 1.00

00:11:21.440 getting all of their ammunition?

00:11:23.740 That is a loaded question, Allie.

00:11:26.160 It's a very loaded question.

00:11:27.740 And thank you for asking that.

00:11:29.020 The best way I can say is when the Arab Spring happened under Obama and the whole destabilization 1.00

00:11:36.640 of the Middle East, you know, like, you know, Gaddafi gone, Assad gone, all these dictatorships

00:11:42.660 became destabilizing.

00:11:44.320 You saw this rise of ISIS.

00:11:46.140 Well, funding, weapons, everything started pouring in from the Middle East down to Northern

00:11:51.380 Africa.

00:11:52.580 And that is where some of the funding is coming in.

00:11:55.340 But also on top of this, there are foreign interests that are taking advantage of this

00:12:00.480 insecurity.

00:12:01.680 You have the Chinese that are illegally mining all over the Middle Belt and Northern Nigeria 1.00

00:12:08.420 that are, they're benefiting off the insecurity.

00:12:13.000 They're actually, you know, giving money and paying, you know, bribes or whatever you want

00:12:18.700 to call it to mine in these areas where Christian villages once were.

00:12:22.420 And they're paying the terrorists to, you know, just leave them alone and they do their

00:12:27.300 thing.

00:12:27.540 The terrorists do their thing.

00:12:28.940 So we're seeing Chinese activity going on, but also the other part of the funding is,

00:12:34.340 is the kidnappings.

00:12:37.120 Kidnapping in Nigeria. 0.93

00:12:38.420 I mean, when you think of Nigeria, a lot of people think kidnapping, but no one asks what

00:12:42.140 happens to these people.

00:12:44.360 What happens to these victims?

00:12:45.920 How does this work?

00:12:46.640 Well, this is how they're also financing their war is through kidnapping.

00:12:50.600 And currently we estimate there's over 10,000 Christians being held in terror camps, held

00:12:57.880 for ransom as we speak.

00:13:00.520 And the people, if they want to see their relatives live, they sell everything they own, give it

00:13:06.740 to the terrorists, hoping that they get their people back.

00:13:09.940 But then these people are left with nothing and the terrorists make away with all the money.

00:13:14.040 And this has been a continuous funding source for the local terrorists.

00:13:17.700 Is it true that an incentive that these militants have to kidnap Christians is because Christians

00:13:25.600 traditionally will pay more for their relatives, or basically the hostage is worth more ransom-wise

00:13:33.880 than a kidnapped Muslim?

00:13:35.420 Why is that?

00:13:36.500 Christians love life.

00:13:38.860 Christians want to preserve life.

00:13:40.140 If a Muslim gets kidnapped, they hardly ever pay the ransom. 1.00

00:13:44.260 So if they know they can kidnap Christians, the Christians will pay. 1.00

00:13:48.540 What is the feeling like?

00:13:50.660 I mean, I can imagine, but among Christians who are there that you're talking to, I mean,

00:13:54.640 you're literally trying to equip the persecuted for this kind of trial.

00:13:58.940 So what are they feeling and telling you?

00:14:00.980 They're, there's, there's a sense of hopelessness.

00:14:10.860 It's hard to explain.

00:14:13.280 They have been conditioned to have this be the norm.

00:14:19.300 They're conditioned to feel that and believe that, you know, they wake up every day going,

00:14:24.620 thank God I didn't get kidnapped.

00:14:26.720 Thank God I didn't get killed.

00:14:29.720 And they're,

00:14:30.980 they're conditioned to think that this is normal.

00:14:36.520 And, you know,

00:14:38.260 and we're trying to,

00:14:39.300 and we're coming in trying to bring hope and tell them,

00:14:41.820 you don't have to live like this.

00:14:43.580 This can be stopped.

00:14:46.480 With the right amount of willpower and the right of international attention,

00:14:49.620 this can be stopped.

00:14:51.020 Can be stopped by whom?

00:14:54.440 It can be stopped by the people if they banded together and rose up.

00:14:58.260 Really?

00:14:59.000 I believe.

00:14:59.700 What would that look like?

00:15:00.980 What would that look like?

00:15:02.360 Yeah.

00:15:03.240 Christians uniting.

00:15:05.720 And even the moderate Muslims uniting with them to say enough is enough. 0.91

00:15:10.600 Would that be taking up arms?

00:15:14.540 Taking up arms,

00:15:15.880 taking a political,

00:15:17.840 taking back political control of the government,

00:15:20.040 getting rid of the corruption.

00:15:20.960 And that's where I believe,

00:15:23.880 you know,

00:15:24.300 possibly U S intervention could take place,

00:15:26.500 but I'm just being honest because I,

00:15:30.020 every time I go to Nigeria,

00:15:33.100 I meet with the victims.

00:15:35.560 I meet with survivors that came out of these terror camps.

00:15:38.280 I mean,

00:15:38.540 when,

00:15:38.820 when somebody's kidnapped,

00:15:42.020 they are repeatedly beaten every day.

00:15:46.100 They maybe get fed once every two or three days.

00:15:48.740 They come out looking like Holocaust survivors with massive amounts of disease. 1.00

00:15:52.960 And we don't pay ransoms to get people out,

00:15:56.140 but if they find a way to get out,

00:15:57.840 we are there to bring them comfort,

00:15:59.380 bring them aid.

00:15:59.780 Your organization.

00:16:00.940 Our organization is there to bring them comfort,

00:16:02.980 bring them aid and bring them back to health.

00:16:05.560 But we interview them,

00:16:06.740 we get their stories and we come alongside and pray with them and help them rebuild their lives.

00:16:09.920 But it doesn't have to be this way.

00:16:13.860 It does not have to be this way.

00:16:17.360 And I'm sorry.

00:16:18.980 Yeah.

00:16:20.020 What,

00:16:20.500 what do you think the U S government could do?

00:16:26.720 The U S government,

00:16:27.740 I think can make an offer to the Nigerian government.

00:16:30.740 It can't refuse.

00:16:32.500 And at least show the rest of the world.

00:16:34.240 Does the Nigerian government want a prosperous Nigeria?

00:16:37.280 Do they want a peaceful Nigeria? 0.97

00:16:39.180 Nigeria that can do business with the rest of the world? 1.00

00:16:42.660 Or do they love their terrorists more?

00:16:45.900 Do they want the,

00:16:46.520 do they want the payoff that the terrorists are giving them more than seeing a prosperous Nigeria and being a beacon of Africa for the whole world?

00:16:56.340 Yeah.

00:16:57.240 And,

00:16:57.780 and so economically,

00:17:00.100 militarily,

00:17:00.660 I think something can be done,

00:17:02.360 but the question is,

00:17:03.780 is to the Tanubu administration and to the,

00:17:07.020 you know,

00:17:07.800 the political apparatus in Nigeria.

00:17:09.480 Do you love your terrorists more in the kidnappings and the killings and the money you're benefiting from,

00:17:14.260 from these things more than seeing a total transformation of the country where everyone can prosper?

00:17:21.560 Yeah.

00:17:22.080 That's my question.

00:17:23.040 Yeah.

00:17:23.860 The government probably is taking bribes from the bad actors who are benefiting economically from the destabilization and the violence there.

00:17:32.360 Yes.

00:17:32.700 And by the way, 0.97

00:17:34.240 many Muslim majority countries have a special hatred for Christians. 0.99

00:17:38.360 And just for religious reasons want to see Christians killed and want to see Christianity abolished. 0.99

00:17:44.180 And this is an easy conquest because the people in Nigeria are already so poor and already so weak. 0.98

00:17:51.400 So this is an easy win to a lot of those radically Islamic countries over there and in the Middle East.

00:17:57.280 And so,

00:17:57.840 yeah,

00:17:58.600 there's a lot.

00:17:59.160 What you're saying is that the offer that the United States government makes,

00:18:02.560 the Nigerian government has to outweigh whatever perceived benefits they are getting from these bad actors.

00:18:08.380 Well,

00:18:08.840 let's listen to Donald Trump because he did say something about this on October 31st.

00:18:13.440 Here's thought one.

00:18:14.080 If the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians,

00:18:18.540 the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria.

00:18:24.000 We're going to do things to Nigeria that Nigeria is not going to be happy about 1.00

00:18:27.760 and may very well go into that now disgraced country. 0.99

00:18:31.440 Guns are blazing to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible, horrible atrocities. 1.00

00:18:39.440 I'm hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action. 0.98

00:18:44.620 If we attack,

00:18:45.520 it will be fast,

00:18:47.120 vicious and sweet, 0.99

00:18:48.460 just like the terrorist thugs attack our cherished Christians. 0.92

00:18:52.620 These are cherished people. 0.55

00:18:54.120 These are great people.

00:18:55.580 Leave them alone.

00:18:56.760 Warning, 0.68

00:18:57.660 the Nigerian government better move fast before it's too late.

00:19:01.780 If they don't,

00:19:02.640 there's going to be hell to pay.

00:19:05.480 Look,

00:19:06.080 I know that you're not a political organization,

00:19:08.400 so I'm just saying in my own capacity,

00:19:10.440 I'm very grateful for that strength in words that we would have never gotten from the Biden administration,

00:19:16.140 that's my opinion,

00:19:17.180 or a Kamala Harris administration.

00:19:19.560 So he's not just talking about economic deals there.

00:19:22.600 He is calling upon his Department of War to potentially respond with aggression.

00:19:27.580 Yes.

00:19:28.400 And when I saw that,

00:19:29.640 I was,

00:19:31.560 I had tears of joy.

00:19:33.040 Yeah.

00:19:33.580 When I saw that,

00:19:34.180 because finally,

00:19:34.960 we've been at this for six years,

00:19:36.660 trying to get the government to recognize what is going on.

00:19:40.400 And obviously during the Biden administration,

00:19:42.400 it was like talking to a brick wall.

00:19:44.060 They don't want to hear anything we had to say.

00:19:45.560 And they kept on telling us,

00:19:46.700 no,

00:19:47.540 people are being killed in Nigeria because of climate change.

00:19:51.240 Oh my gosh.

00:19:52.200 That was our official state department directive that Christians were being killed because of, 0.84

00:19:58.740 or people, 0.98

00:19:59.620 not Christians. 0.83

00:20:00.300 People are being killed because of climate change.

00:20:02.120 Yeah. 0.95

00:20:02.340 The radical Islamists are moving in because of climate change and killing people. 0.94

00:20:06.020 And it's about land and water resources.

00:20:08.180 Yeah.

00:20:08.460 Which is a lie from the pit of hell.

00:20:10.060 So for years,

00:20:11.120 we've been trying to go to the Biden administration and tell people what's going on and they wouldn't even listen.

00:20:15.640 Yeah.

00:20:16.320 Well,

00:20:16.640 then they would have to look in the face of the ideology of Islam and admit that it's a problem, 0.96

00:20:22.220 which they will not do.

00:20:24.400 All of these groups that seemingly don't have anything in common,

00:20:28.460 LGBTQ,

00:20:29.820 progressives,

00:20:31.320 Muslims, 0.88

00:20:32.060 the commonality is a hatred for Christianity. 0.84

00:20:35.400 And so,

00:20:36.300 you know,

00:20:36.880 they don't want to mess with that worldview that they have.

00:20:40.100 It was,

00:20:40.580 it was a total joke.

00:20:42.380 I can tell you stories about like USAID in Nigeria and the stuff we saw.

00:20:47.040 Tell me.

00:20:47.660 Oh,

00:20:48.140 they were,

00:20:49.100 they're operating directive for Nigeria and aid was advancing LGBTQ issues.

00:20:55.340 They had a,

00:20:56.440 they helped put on like a gay Christmas play.

00:20:59.500 What? 0.87

00:21:00.200 Yeah.

00:21:00.480 Yeah.

00:21:00.680 Like a gay Christmas play somewhere in Nigeria and pushing feminism. 0.99

00:21:06.420 I can't imagine that that went over well.

00:21:09.040 They funded it.

00:21:10.260 They did it somewhere.

00:21:11.400 Yeah.

00:21:11.940 And then,

00:21:12.560 you know,

00:21:14.300 one of the other things I want to bring up is,

00:21:15.660 is that we have the killings going on,

00:21:17.580 but what people don't talk about is the 3.5 million Christians that have been

00:21:20.740 displaced.

00:21:22.120 They're living in camps.

00:21:23.360 They're living in absolute squalor.

00:21:25.640 So USAID story.

00:21:27.220 You'll find this interesting.

00:21:28.760 We went to this camp where there people are essentially living in garbage bag,

00:21:33.820 like makeshift garbage bag,

00:21:36.620 mosquito net tents,

00:21:38.160 no floor,

00:21:40.040 dirt floor.

00:21:40.600 They're laying on the dirt.

00:21:41.560 I mean,

00:21:41.780 it is just the most horrendous of conditions.

00:21:44.420 And we started doing a lot of work with this particular camp,

00:21:47.340 bringing in food,

00:21:48.520 medicine,

00:21:49.000 aid,

00:21:49.500 whenever we could.

00:21:50.840 And then we decided we're going to raise enough money to build them

00:21:53.540 structures to live in.

00:21:55.420 And so we went in to check on the work that we've been doing.

00:21:58.200 And I see four giant garbage cans in this camp that says USAID on them,

00:22:05.100 big giant garbage cans with USAID stickers.

00:22:07.240 And I went to the camp head and I said,

00:22:10.340 did you get,

00:22:12.980 did USAID bring these?

00:22:14.160 And they said,

00:22:14.760 yes.

00:22:15.780 I said,

00:22:16.560 did they bring you any food?

00:22:18.400 No.

00:22:19.080 They bring you any medicine?

00:22:20.360 They said,

00:22:20.680 no,

00:22:21.060 they just came and they brought us four garbage cans.

00:22:24.940 I said,

00:22:25.600 are they coming in with a method to take the trash and put it somewhere else?

00:22:31.900 They're like,

00:22:32.220 no,

00:22:32.460 they just showed up and brought us these and took pictures.

00:22:36.640 So this is a camp of over 3000 people.

00:22:41.520 There's trash everywhere.

00:22:42.960 There's feces everywhere.

00:22:44.000 There's no sewage system.

00:22:45.860 And their USA gift to a camp was four garbage cans.

00:22:49.960 Yeah.

00:22:51.080 One,

00:22:51.360 it's this insult and a slap in the face,

00:22:53.580 but this is what,

00:22:56.020 this is how bad things were.

00:22:58.560 Yeah.

00:22:59.300 And people were mad at the Trump administration for cutting a lot of the money that we were giving to USAID.

00:23:05.920 But the truth is,

00:23:07.080 is that so much of USAID was going to that kind of thing.

00:23:09.980 Is going to that kind of thing.

00:23:10.960 But also we know for a fact that the food trucks that USAID was sending was ending up in terror camps.

00:23:17.300 Yeah.

00:23:17.920 They're ending up with the terrorists.

00:23:19.240 Right.

00:23:19.840 So we call it the Nigerian shuffle where you have trucks and trucks loaded of food and USAID.

00:23:25.280 They break down magically right outside of a terror area.

00:23:29.660 And next day,

00:23:31.720 all the stuff's gone and trucks are back up and running.

00:23:34.760 I call that the Nigerian shuffle. 1.00

00:23:36.640 Yeah.

00:23:37.140 Because that's the,

00:23:38.400 that is what happened over and over again.

00:23:39.760 This is stuff we saw on the ground.

00:23:41.200 So people living in camps that have nothing but the clothes on their backs from after the attacks

00:23:46.800 are getting no help whatsoever.

00:23:48.580 And all the aid's going to terrorists.

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00:24:52.820 I remember Ron Paul said that foreign aid is money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.

00:25:06.040 Yes.

00:25:06.500 And that's essentially what is happening.

00:25:08.600 Even if the Fulani aren't rich, 1.00

00:25:10.340 they're powerful and they have all of the resources.

00:25:12.960 So all of our compassion over here,

00:25:15.220 our tax dollars going to these federal bureaucratic entities being shipped abroad in the name of empathy,

00:25:22.580 well,

00:25:22.980 really,

00:25:23.500 they're not getting to the people that actually need our help.

00:25:27.040 And that's what we see constantly.

00:25:29.640 So we have a policy.

00:25:30.640 When we render aid in Nigeria,

00:25:32.080 we don't work with the government.

00:25:34.360 We assess.

00:25:35.260 We call ahead of time.

00:25:36.000 We find the people that need it.

00:25:37.060 We distribute it directly to the people.

00:25:40.000 And we don't even involve mayors,

00:25:42.240 local government officials,

00:25:43.500 nobody.

00:25:44.960 Because we're going to make sure the aid gets to the people and doesn't get siphoned off by the government.

00:25:49.800 And boy,

00:25:50.680 we've been able to be very effective with very little by just doing that.

00:25:54.520 It's like Ronald Reagan said,

00:25:56.240 like the scariest words in the English language are,

00:25:58.860 I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

00:26:00.380 Right.

00:26:01.280 And that's why Christians have to, 1.00

00:26:03.200 you know,

00:26:03.980 so often curtail that because we are not supposed to outsource our compassion to the government

00:26:08.900 because the government so often mishandles that.

00:26:11.200 Let's talk more specifically about what attacks are going on.

00:26:16.620 I have read about increased attacks on schools.

00:26:21.380 We've heard the reports of thousands of Christians being slaughtered in their churches,

00:26:26.020 either being kidnapped or being tortured, maimed, beheaded.

00:26:31.580 And sometimes when they are kidnapped, they are forced into conversion.

00:26:35.480 And then you mentioned Sharia, which of course requires, for example, 1.00

00:26:40.780 if someone is accused of stealing, their hand is cut off.

00:26:44.000 And so I've seen stories of that, of people's limbs chopped off in the name of,

00:26:49.180 you know, implementing Islam in their lives.

00:26:51.640 Tell us more specifically, what does the violence really look like?

00:26:55.240 Well, just yesterday, just yesterday, a church was attacked.

00:27:02.260 Three people were killed.

00:27:04.060 Eight people were abducted.

00:27:06.600 They shot up the place.

00:27:07.940 And just four days ago, there was a school where 25 girls were kidnapped.

00:27:12.460 Wow.

00:27:13.460 Christian.

00:27:14.040 Christian.

00:27:14.760 Christian girls, 25 girls kidnapped.

00:27:17.060 And what's going to happen to these girls? 1.00

00:27:18.800 There's a high chance that they're not even going to hold them for ransom.

00:27:21.240 They're going to take them and turn them into baby factories. 1.00

00:27:23.220 Yeah. 0.53

00:27:24.280 For the Muslims.

00:27:25.380 Which is what happened to most of the Chibuk girls that were kidnapped a long time ago. 0.87

00:27:29.320 And everybody says, free our girls, free girls in Chibuk.

00:27:32.540 Hardly any of them were ever freed.

00:27:35.100 Tell us more about that, because I was looking in my research about the, you said Chibuk, right?

00:27:39.820 Yeah.

00:27:40.680 Tell us more about that attack, because I remember at the time people talking about that,

00:27:44.820 free these girls, never talking about Islam, but just saying, you know, we need to help these people.

00:27:49.660 But what really happened?

00:27:51.380 Well, several of those girls are still living up north, and they were forced marriages. 1.00

00:27:55.240 They were forced to terrorists, and they've had children.

00:28:00.120 They've turned them into baby factories. 0.98

00:28:02.200 That's what they do with a lot of these Christian girls. 1.00

00:28:04.580 Basically sex slaves. 1.00

00:28:05.620 Sex slaves. 1.00

00:28:06.260 They're sex slaves and just... 1.00

00:28:08.240 Yeah. 1.00

00:28:10.500 And, you know, they rape them, and they force them to have children over and over and over again. 0.98

00:28:16.080 Yeah. 0.90

00:28:17.020 And so on the kidnapping side, that's what happens to these girls. 1.00

00:28:21.020 And then, you know, other people, like I said, are kidnapped, they're held for ransom, and the families have to sell everything they own just to get them back.

00:28:27.940 And even sometimes, after they get the money, they still kill hostages.

00:28:32.180 Now, what's it look like on the ground?

00:28:36.460 Well, think of, you live in a village of 1,000 people.

00:28:40.440 Say you live in a small town of 1,000 people.

00:28:43.780 One night, 200 people come in with guns.

00:28:46.740 They kill as many people as they can, your family members, your daughters, your aunts, uncles, cousins, your mom, your dad.

00:28:54.960 They destroy your home completely to the ground.

00:28:59.760 They've destroyed all your crops.

00:29:01.200 They destroy everything you own.

00:29:05.960 And then the Nigerian government says, oh, sorry, too bad.

00:29:11.480 We're not going to go after the perpetrators.

00:29:13.260 Here's a plot of land 40 kilometers away.

00:29:16.920 Have fun.

00:29:18.280 That's it.

00:29:19.080 Figure it out.

00:29:19.620 Figure it out.

00:29:21.020 With no aid support and no justice being done.

00:29:24.140 So there's 3.5 million Christians right now living in these camps that are no longer allowed to return to their homes.

00:29:31.780 If they try to go back home, they get killed.

00:29:34.080 Wow. 0.70

00:29:35.520 Let's play the video that you were telling me about before we got started of the Christians who are being massacred.

00:29:43.060 And you can hear the gunfire.

00:29:54.140 I also saw this video of this woman and the caption said it was a woman in Nigeria, although, you know, things like that, you just never know.

00:30:15.860 I don't know if you saw this, but and we'll play it.

00:30:18.820 We could actually put it up even as I'm talking.

00:30:21.700 But it's this mother.

00:30:23.660 I'm sure she's a lot younger than she looked, but she looks so distressed and so traumatized.

00:30:27.820 She's got a baby and she's got a toddler and she's got an older kid behind her. 1.00

00:30:31.660 And you can kind of hear these men who with guns kind of yelling at her and she is just instinctively putting her hands up like this.

00:30:41.560 Like she's gone through this many times before.

00:30:43.580 She's trying to bring her babies and she's trying to protect them. 1.00

00:30:46.860 And I saw someone reported that she and her children were slaughtered after that.

00:30:50.940 And, you know, like just as a mom myself, I can see so much.

00:30:55.240 That's exactly what I would be doing.

00:30:56.960 I can't imagine how scared she is.

00:30:58.940 I don't know if that was from Nigeria and if you even saw that video, but go ahead.

00:31:03.720 Yeah, that was that was from Sudan.

00:31:05.460 That particular video you're referring to is from Sudan, but it is very indicative and very common of what we see in Nigeria.

00:31:12.160 Yeah.

00:31:13.120 Like this, this happens.

00:31:15.040 Same thing.

00:31:15.700 All the time, every single day.

00:31:19.020 Every single day.

00:31:20.940 And I'd like to segue into this is that the reason Americans and mainstream media doesn't know what's going on in Nigeria and there's like misinformation.

00:31:30.020 There's all this mixed information that's coming out is because the news in Nigeria, when it gets to the mainstream media is always filtered through Al Jazeera.

00:31:44.320 So somebody from the Nigerian government writes the, if their narrative, their official story,

00:31:49.280 then it goes to Al Jazeera filtered through Al Jazeera and then that goes to the AP and that is the mainstream article that goes out.

00:31:58.100 So, and the AP doesn't necessarily fact check.

00:32:00.820 They never fact check anything.

00:32:02.160 They just copy what Al Jazeera did and then put it out to the mainstream media.

00:32:05.800 So I'll, I'll, I would like to go to an instance that happened in June.

00:32:09.420 It was called the father's day massacre where 280 Christians were, half of them were burned alive.

00:32:15.640 The other half were macheted to death and shot because they were trying to escape being burned alive.

00:32:24.700 The mainstream media said it was a hundred people killed.

00:32:29.060 Now it didn't say Christians.

00:32:30.720 The actual number was 280.

00:32:32.320 The official article said it was unknown gunmen or bandits.

00:32:43.000 They never talk about who's doing the killing.

00:32:46.560 So you say a hundred people were killed, but it never says who, what, where, and how.

00:32:51.820 And though that information is always void of the articles.

00:32:54.520 So by the time it gets to the mainstream press, they lie about how many people were killed and they definitely leave out who did it.

00:33:01.100 Because Al Jazeera, for people who don't know, is a Middle Eastern, mostly Muslim publication.

00:33:08.200 It's the Muslim publication, but it's a trusted news source to the world.

00:33:13.160 So when the article comes out of Al Jazeera, then CNN, USA Today, all the other outlets will pick up that article and say, that's what happened.

00:33:20.860 No one does any investigative journalism.

00:33:23.200 Nobody asks any questions.

00:33:24.980 So it's up to organizations like yours to get the truth out.

00:33:27.960 So that's why we created Truth Nigeria, because I kept on seeing this over and over again.

00:33:32.460 And I was going, if they keep lying about the numbers and who did it, that's why nobody really knows what's going on.

00:33:41.720 And that's so Truth Nigeria and giving an outlet to journalists in Nigeria to actually document and share what's actually happening.

00:33:48.800 Yeah.

00:33:49.020 But that's why people keep asking me, why does nobody know about this?

00:33:53.020 Well, because you're getting false information.

00:33:56.080 Yeah.

00:33:57.160 And the people there don't have, you know, all the access to iPhones and internet that we do.

00:34:02.080 If this were happening where we live, easily people would be.

00:34:06.540 But, you know, it actually, even here, with all the access to technology that we have, things get muddied by the time they're dispersed to the general public.

00:34:14.980 So if that's true of us here, how much more true is that of someone who lives in a third world country? 0.99

00:34:20.320 Yeah.

00:34:20.540 And the other thing is our journalists risk their lives every day.

00:34:23.800 Like, not only with the terrorists, but the Nigerian government.

00:34:27.000 Our guys have been arrested.

00:34:28.100 They've been beat up.

00:34:29.000 They've been, they've gone through hell to tell the truth.

00:34:33.080 But they still believe that the truth needs to get out at the risk of their own lives.

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00:35:38.780 Tucker Carlson, obviously one of the most powerful people in media here.

00:35:45.080 He had a guest on, what was his name?

00:35:48.340 Robert Amsterdam.

00:35:49.660 Robert Amsterdam.

00:35:50.600 I've never heard of him before, but they were talking about this genocide that's going on.

00:35:57.080 And this guy, Robert, basically said it's not really just a Christian genocide.

00:36:01.580 We'll play that.

00:36:02.860 There have always been tribal conflict.

00:36:04.520 I spoke to the foreign minister before I came here because I wanted to get clarity on the government's position.

00:36:12.960 Absolutely, let's be clear.

00:36:14.820 President Tanubo's wife is a Christian pastor.

00:36:17.640 This is not targeted at Christians.

00:36:21.400 There are probably an equal or more number of Muslim deaths.

00:36:25.260 So, what is your take on that?

00:36:29.580 Robert Amsterdam.

00:36:31.000 I don't know anything about him.

00:36:32.440 Well, Robert Amsterdam is a mercenary lawyer for hire.

00:36:37.260 And he don't get out of bed for less than $500,000 to go jump on a cause and do something.

00:36:45.340 He is a mercenary for hire.

00:36:46.900 Now, the big problem with Robert Amsterdam and claiming that there is no genocide against Christians in Nigeria is really funny to me, but also horrific.

00:36:57.260 Because this guy in particular lawyered up and helped a guy by the name of El Rufay from Nigeria, who is a Nigerian politician, Muslim, but also a guy that has helped orchestrate attacks against Christians under his political leadership.

00:37:18.220 So, this guy, Robert Amsterdam, shows up on Tucker Carlson's things as though there's no Christian persecution in Nigeria.

00:37:25.500 And he also says that, you know, you know, I'm friends with this such and such political family, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:33.760 People like Robert Amsterdam and other U.S. lobbyists and diplomats that are pulling the Nigerian government narrative, they don't go to real Nigeria.

00:37:44.300 They go to the fanciest of hotels, they smoke the cigars, drink the alcohol, but they never actually set foot in real Nigeria and see what's actually happening. 0.93

00:37:54.580 They're just mercenaries for hire like Robert Amsterdam.

00:37:57.620 So, the motivation to misrepresent something like that, you're saying it's just money?

00:38:02.560 It's money.

00:38:03.640 It's money.

00:38:05.100 He's been paid by very bad actors in Nigeria to lay cover for them.

00:38:10.960 I'm sure there are a lot of people like that.

00:38:13.180 There are.

00:38:14.300 There are.

00:38:14.860 And right now, even as Trump is speaking out of what's happening in Nigeria, there are political forces within our U.S. government that are being paid by the Nigerian government to lobby to keep the status quo.

00:38:29.580 And this is a big fight that we are fighting against right now.

00:38:33.260 And we are praying that truth and justice reigns over these corrupt lobbyists.

00:38:40.800 Yeah, absolutely.

00:38:41.820 Um, I remember this video circulating, I believe this was from Nigeria, of the pastor, and he was basically laying it or standing in an open grave after one of these massacred massacres, just kind of begging for help and attention from specifically from Trump.

00:38:59.000 We'll play that.

00:38:59.660 Look at it here on ground.

00:39:02.340 Special advisor to Trump.

00:39:05.220 Now, please tell Trump to save our life in Nigeria.

00:39:10.500 He has been building to settle peace between Israel and also Hamas.

00:39:21.840 Now, his attention, I'm calling his attention to Nigeria. 0.92

00:39:26.440 They are killing Christians in Nigeria. 0.98

00:39:29.360 Massacred Christians. 1.00

00:39:30.460 I'm guessing this is the sentiment of a lot of pastors.

00:39:41.920 I sense his desperation, but gosh, the courage to, the incredible courage that it takes to stand up and ask for something and to say, I'm a Christian and we need help.

00:39:51.240 So, I know that pastor.

00:39:53.280 I know he's a friend and we support that pastor.

00:39:55.520 His name is Pastor Ezekiel DeComo.

00:39:57.440 Wow.

00:39:58.080 Pastor Ezekiel is one of the bravest pastors I've ever met on the face of this earth.

00:40:04.800 This guy goes right to where the attacks are.

00:40:09.180 He is praying with people and trying to be a spiritual light in the darkness.

00:40:15.120 And we support Pastor Ezekiel and try to help him out however we can.

00:40:21.440 And this is indicative.

00:40:23.740 And if we had a thousand Pastor Ezekiels in Nigeria, Nigeria would change overnight. 1.00

00:40:28.700 Yeah.

00:40:29.480 And this man is brave.

00:40:31.060 Same thing with America.

00:40:31.820 If we had Pastor Ezekiels in America. 0.96

00:40:33.760 If we had a thousand Pastor Ezekiels in America, this place would change overnight. 1.00

00:40:36.960 Yes.

00:40:37.500 And just for those watching this, I would like to encourage you, please keep Pastor Ezekiel in your prayers.

00:40:42.420 Yes.

00:40:42.720 I talk to him every week.

00:40:44.920 Sometimes he's afraid for his life and he's moving into a safe house because he knows people are tailing him.

00:40:50.720 Pray for this man, please.

00:40:52.340 Yeah.

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00:42:28.580 And I've noticed that a lot of people don't want to talk about Nigeria or Sudan or these other places where Christians are being persecuted because of the Muslim thing.

00:42:37.080 I don't know.

00:42:37.420 They don't want to be seen as Islamophobic or whatever it is.

00:42:40.460 That, to me, is just such a lack of courage. 1.00

00:42:43.200 It's a lack of courage, and it is stupidity. 1.00

00:42:47.840 It's just not lack of courage. 1.00

00:42:49.360 It's stupidity. 1.00

00:42:51.900 To acknowledge how Islam has conquered every nation it's touched since 640 A.D., 1.00

00:42:57.060 it hasn't been by voluntary conversion.

00:42:59.720 Right.

00:42:59.840 It has been done by the sword.

00:43:01.940 Yeah.

00:43:02.200 And what is playing out in Nigeria right now could be what would play out in America 30 years from now.

00:43:09.960 Mm-hmm.

00:43:11.760 Because they have a whole goal.

00:43:13.140 They don't have a goal of assimilating.

00:43:14.400 It is not in their religion to assimilate to a culture or in an area that you move into.

00:43:22.560 You are commanded to dominate that culture and make everybody submit to you. 0.96

00:43:28.240 Yep.

00:43:28.960 That is the fundamentals of Islam and how it operates.

00:43:33.860 So for people to say, oh, you know, there's a mosque going up in my backyard.

00:43:38.680 Let's celebrate it.

00:43:39.780 No, no, no.

00:43:40.600 That is a sign of them conquering your territory.

00:43:44.020 That is how they view it.

00:43:46.140 And they can lie to you to advance Islam. 1.00

00:43:48.500 They can manipulate the laws around you to advance Islam. 1.00

00:43:55.240 They will take anything they can to advance their cause and eventually put you in submission.

00:43:59.960 Mm-hmm.

00:44:00.400 And it's in the Quran.

00:44:01.280 If they have a minority population, they have to be nice, play nice, be quiet. 1.00

00:44:05.780 Yep.

00:44:06.040 One, it's they reach that threshold is when the political threshold is when the violence occurs.

00:44:12.700 Yes, you're exactly right.

00:44:14.400 I get the same story from survivors in Nigeria.

00:44:18.040 Okay.

00:44:18.720 They just can't believe it happened to them.

00:44:21.840 But they tell me the same story.

00:44:23.480 Know what they say?

00:44:24.460 They say, the Fulani moved in.

00:44:26.620 Our kids played together.

00:44:28.020 We did business together.

00:44:29.160 We did commerce.

00:44:31.400 Everything was fine until the one day.

00:44:33.680 Wow.

00:44:34.160 Where even their neighbors partook in the attacks.

00:44:39.360 Yeah.

00:44:40.020 And then stole their property and took everything they had.

00:44:44.760 Yeah.

00:44:45.540 And they, Fulani have a saying in Nigeria is they say, treat the Christian like a pet chicken.

00:44:55.780 You raise the chicken, you feed the chicken, you pet the chicken, love the chicken until it's time to chop off its head. 0.92

00:45:01.600 Wow.

00:45:01.880 This is actually a Fulani saying, an analogy.

00:45:08.140 Yeah.

00:45:08.500 For Christians.

00:45:09.520 Yeah. 0.74

00:45:10.540 Just very frightening.

00:45:12.020 I think some people that they will just kind of dismiss it because they won't think of it as a religious or ideological thing going on.

00:45:20.240 They'll think of it as just an African thing.

00:45:22.100 Well, this is a war-torn tribal country anyway.

00:45:24.940 But then when we look at Europe, we were just talking on Monday about the 10-year anniversary of the Bataclan attack, which was in Paris, France, when hundreds of people were in Paris.

00:45:36.100 They were disemboweled, they were raped, their eyes were gouged out by these northern African Muslims who had entered through legal migration mostly. 1.00

00:45:45.740 But they had been accepted by people who were compassionate, who thought, well, I've got a Muslim neighbor and he's nice, which I'm sure is true.

00:45:52.620 But as you said, Medina versus Mecca, this is part of their ideology, that as soon as they hit a particular threshold of a majority, that's when they take power and they kind of forge a conquest. 0.90

00:46:06.380 Yeah.

00:46:06.620 Full dominance.

00:46:07.960 Sharia, full dominance. 1.00

00:46:09.760 Yeah.

00:46:09.880 And we're seeing pockets of this happening in Dearborn.

00:46:13.480 We're seeing it, you guys better be watching out, you know, in Dallas.

00:46:17.700 You're seeing it in Minneapolis.

00:46:20.560 Houston.

00:46:21.360 Houston.

00:46:21.980 Yeah.

00:46:22.680 All over, little pockets of this happening.

00:46:24.880 Yeah.

00:46:25.240 And it's only a matter of time unless something is done.

00:46:28.860 Right.

00:46:29.940 To do this.

00:46:30.680 And it's not Islamophobia.

00:46:34.560 When you read history, look at how, why would you expect anything different?

00:46:39.460 Yeah.

00:46:39.880 For over 1,500 years, why would you expect anything different?

00:46:42.820 Right.

00:46:43.820 Yeah.

00:46:44.340 It's, a phobia is an unjust or paranoid fear.

00:46:48.720 Right.

00:46:48.880 And this is a very reasonable concern.

00:46:51.480 Legitimate concern.

00:46:52.740 Legitimate fear.

00:46:53.780 Yes.

00:46:54.080 And it's out of love for our neighbors and innocent people that we push back against this darkness.

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00:48:03.840 You know, some people have been speaking up specifically about the violence in Nigeria and

00:48:08.640 someone that I didn't expect to have the moral clarity on this subject is Nicki Minaj.

00:48:13.440 She is a rapper.

00:48:14.240 I think that she actually has some ancestry from Nigeria and so this might be kind of close

00:48:20.060 to her heart.

00:48:20.860 She originally posted about it on X, which I thought she had a good original post, but then

00:48:25.120 she talked about it at the UN.

00:48:26.540 So let's play that clip.

00:48:27.580 I think it's sought to.

00:48:29.440 In Nigeria, Christians are being targeted, driven from their homes and killed.

00:48:37.540 Churches have been burned.

00:48:40.400 Families have been torn apart and entire communities live in fear constantly simply because of how

00:48:48.040 they pray.

00:48:49.320 Sadly, this problem is not only a growing problem in Nigeria, but also in so many other countries

00:48:57.220 across the world, and it demands urgent action.

00:49:02.520 And I want to be clear, protecting Christians in Nigeria is not about taking sides or dividing

00:49:11.880 people.

00:49:12.600 It is about uniting humanity.

00:49:17.880 Okay.

00:49:18.480 So it sounds like she's got better moral clarity than the Biden administration on this.

00:49:24.180 I'm shocked.

00:49:25.420 Yeah.

00:49:25.880 I did not see that coming.

00:49:27.300 None of us saw Nicki Minaj coming out and speaking out against what's happening in Nigeria

00:49:34.200 and we welcome it and God bless her for doing it.

00:49:38.720 And we need more people to speak out, more diaspora to speak out, more Nigerians that

00:49:45.520 live in America to speak out about what's happening in Nigeria.

00:49:48.300 Yeah.

00:49:48.660 And I really thank her for doing that.

00:49:51.940 Yeah.

00:49:52.560 Well, there's two things I want to talk about that I hope builds up our faith for those of

00:49:58.460 us here in America.

00:49:59.740 And one, I just want to hear, maybe if you have a story or just general description of

00:50:06.120 the faith of the Christians in Nigeria.

00:50:09.480 When you think back to someone that you've interacted with there that you're like, wow,

00:50:14.280 that is Holy Spirit-empowered faith and joy in the midst of this tribulation.

00:50:19.020 Can you talk to us about that?

00:50:20.360 One particular story is part of our ministry, we have a widow support ministry.

00:50:28.080 We support over 320 widows monthly.

00:50:32.800 And one of these ladies, her husband was a pastor that was murdered, chopped up into pieces

00:50:40.800 and dropped in front of her door.

00:50:42.880 And she was sharing with me her story and I was starting to cry.

00:50:55.520 I mean, I was crying because I heard the story and she grabbed me and she said, there's no

00:51:08.240 reason for you to be sad because I have forgiven the attackers.

00:51:18.080 She goes, we, and she's witnessing to me.

00:51:20.380 She said, we, we look to the Lord.

00:51:23.620 Wow.

00:51:24.100 We look to the Lord and put our trust in Jesus.

00:51:30.340 And that, that shook me.

00:51:32.160 Yeah.

00:51:32.680 That shook me.

00:51:34.020 And that is the resilience that the Christians have in Nigeria.

00:51:38.240 I can imagine.

00:51:39.080 They, they know all this tragedies going on around them, but even at the threat of their

00:51:45.300 church being attacked, they come in wearing their Sunday best, walking long distances to

00:51:54.820 make it to church.

00:51:55.680 And they give it all.

00:51:57.220 They give it their all.

00:51:58.300 They give their praise to Jesus.

00:52:02.280 Yeah.

00:52:02.860 And that is what shook my faith.

00:52:05.300 Yeah.

00:52:06.680 Shook my faith to my core.

00:52:08.240 So that's the resilience that these Nigerian Christians have.

00:52:13.780 I just thought of another clip that I saw and it's, uh, of a congregation in Nigeria in

00:52:19.580 their Sunday best worshiping together.

00:52:21.600 And as beautiful, we'll play that.

00:52:22.980 And tell me about conversions to Christianity.

00:52:52.040 Is that something that's happening?

00:52:54.460 I mean, against all odds, there are Muslims coming to Christ in Nigeria.

00:52:59.200 So we are equipping the persecuted.

00:53:02.280 We're a gospel mission.

00:53:03.140 We're a gospel center mission.

00:53:04.380 And we do support and, uh, encourage underground missionaries to go up north.

00:53:10.200 And I just got a report the other day from our coordinator that over 600 Muslims have come to

00:53:17.220 know Christ in the last three months.

00:53:19.460 Three months?

00:53:20.040 Three months.

00:53:20.300 600 Muslims in three months?

00:53:22.040 Through our, through our ministry.

00:53:23.160 Wow.

00:53:23.700 600 Muslims have come to know Christ.

00:53:25.680 Wow.

00:53:26.000 And, uh, what we do is if one, if they come to know Christ, we have a system where we create

00:53:35.920 safe houses that they go into where they get discipled for two months and then they make

00:53:44.340 the choice, do you move, do they move away from their families for the South?

00:53:48.060 Because once they accept Christ, I mean, there's a death sentence. 0.93

00:53:51.220 Their family will come after them and kill them if they find out they committed to, if 0.96

00:53:54.800 they've converted to Christ.

00:53:56.920 So we have a system where they go into safe houses, they get discipled, and then they choose.

00:54:01.220 They move South, they go into an area, you know, kind of blend in, or do they make the

00:54:05.500 choice to go up and be missionaries?

00:54:07.780 And if they make the choice to go up, back up into the North being missionaries, we support 0.99

00:54:12.220 their work.

00:54:14.560 And it's bearing fruit.

00:54:16.580 Yeah.

00:54:17.200 I can't imagine.

00:54:17.980 Do you see this as kind of like a growing trend that, I mean, God is up to something that

00:54:24.600 he is changing the numbers through conversion?

00:54:27.000 Yes.

00:54:27.440 Yes.

00:54:27.820 Uh, we, we're seeing conversion happen.

00:54:30.020 And a lot of the moderates, uh, moderate Muslims that hate seeing the killings and the massacres

00:54:36.960 going on, they're starting to wake up and say, do I want to, do I really want to be part

00:54:41.540 of this?

00:54:42.560 And at the risk of their own life, some of them are coming in and converting to Christ

00:54:48.120 and becoming Christians.

00:54:50.200 That's incredible.

00:54:51.460 Praise God.

00:54:52.500 You know, we're unapologetically Christian organization and we unapologetically proselytize.

00:54:58.560 Yeah.

00:55:00.200 And it's only the work of God that's doing this.

00:55:02.660 Mm-hmm.

00:55:03.700 What advice would you give people to Christians here who want to share the gospel with their

00:55:07.880 Muslim neighbor? 0.96

00:55:08.760 Different dynamic, but just as urgent.

00:55:12.080 Gospel 101.

00:55:13.780 Gospel 101.

00:55:14.820 Be the hands and feet of Jesus and just speak to them.

00:55:19.260 Speak to them the truth.

00:55:20.240 You don't have to be rude about it. 0.96

00:55:22.380 You don't have to be a jerk about it, but speak truth and love and share the gospel with 0.97

00:55:27.440 them. 0.99

00:55:27.720 Establish that relationship.

00:55:29.760 Yeah.

00:55:29.880 Um, don't be afraid to do it.

00:55:32.120 I mean, this is gospel 101.

00:55:33.500 What Jesus do, spread the gospel, go preach.

00:55:36.720 They'll either accept or reject it, but it's our job to share the gospel with everybody.

00:55:41.480 Tell me what Christians listening to this, what are the top things?

00:55:45.260 If you could say two things, to pray and then to do, how, what should they pray?

00:55:53.000 What should they do to help our brothers and sisters in Nigeria?

00:55:56.940 Yeah.

00:55:59.000 Add the person, add the plight of the persecuted Christians in Nigeria to your prayer list.

00:56:03.440 Yeah.

00:56:04.180 Just add it to your prayer list every day.

00:56:07.100 Talk about it with your pastors.

00:56:08.660 Talk about it with your Bible studies, your small groups.

00:56:10.960 Let people know what's going on.

00:56:12.180 And then if you want to take action and help persecuted Christians on the ground, go to 0.57

00:56:16.980 equippingthepersecuted.org and partner with our organization.

00:56:20.920 We're an organization that actually helps persecuted Christians on the ground.

00:56:24.180 We don't just talk about it, raise awareness.

00:56:25.940 We are there on the ground every day, helping our persecuted brothers and sisters any way we

00:56:31.520 can.

00:56:32.460 Wow.

00:56:32.860 And so I'd encourage listeners, go to equippingthepersecuted.org and partner with us.

00:56:37.340 Yeah.

00:56:37.880 But first and foremost, pray.

00:56:39.980 Yes.

00:56:40.420 The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.

00:56:43.620 And that's something that we are called to do, to care for and think of and consider the

00:56:48.100 plight of our brothers and sisters in Christ around the world.

00:56:51.020 So thank you so much for what you're doing and how you are a vessel of God's grace and

00:56:57.840 protection.

00:56:59.000 And I'm thankful for that.

00:57:00.300 And I hope that we can all partner together in helping our family in Christ that's abroad.

00:57:07.960 And of course, this is happening not only in Nigeria, it's happening in a lot of different

00:57:12.260 places.

00:57:13.000 And all of us are called to different acts of generosity and different acts of service.

00:57:17.400 You're called to Nigeria. 0.99

00:57:19.360 Someone else might be called to China.

00:57:21.040 Someone else might be called to Yemen.

00:57:23.660 And we don't have to worry about being everything for everyone.

00:57:27.700 But what is God asking you to do in this moment to obey?

00:57:32.820 So thank you so much.

00:57:34.160 And I do hope people will check out your organization.

00:57:36.780 We'll link it in our description.

00:57:38.200 God bless you.

00:57:38.820 Thank you.

00:57:39.480 Thank you for having me on.

00:57:50.900 Rinse takes your laundry and hand delivers it to your door, expertly cleaned and folded.

00:58:04.200 So you could take the time once spent folding and sorting and waiting to finally pursue a

00:58:09.040 whole new version of you.

00:58:10.700 Like tea time you.

00:58:11.620 Or this tea time you.

00:58:16.020 Or even this tea time you.

00:58:18.520 So did you hear about Dave?

00:58:19.720 Or even tea time, tea time, tea time you.

00:58:22.740 Mmm.

00:58:23.840 So update on Dave.

00:58:25.640 It's up to you.

00:58:26.700 We'll take the laundry.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 21, 2025

Ep 1270 ｜ Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria？｜ Judd Saul

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - November 21, 2025

Ep 1270 ｜ Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria？ ｜ Judd Saul

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Ep 1270 ｜ Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria？｜ Judd Saul