Ep 1270 ｜ Who’s Funding the Christian Genocide in Nigeria？ ｜ Judd Saul
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Judd Saul is the Executive Director and Founder of Equipping the Persecuted, a mission dedicated to helping persecuted Christians in Nigeria. In this episode, he talks about what Christians need to do in order to survive in a country where Muslims are killing Christians.
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Who is funding and arming these militant Islamic groups?
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And are Muslims really converting to Christianity there?
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Today, we are talking to a missionary and the head of the organization equipping the persecuted.
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His name is Judd Saul, and he is going to tell us exactly what we need to know about Nigeria
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Mr. Judd Saul, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
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Could you tell everyone who you are and what you do?
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I am the executive director and founder of EquippingThePersecuted.org, and I'm also the
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Well, my testimony is, is 2009, I had my wake-up call with God, repented, came back to him.
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I grew up in a Christian home, but left the faith, and then I came back in 2009.
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And then my grandfather, who's a lay evangelist, he's a guy that shares the gospel everywhere,
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He's 90 years old, still hands out gospel tracts at Walmarts.
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I was working with a Nigerian, a missionary to Nigeria, and brought him back to speak about
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And I just felt an immediate calling that the Lord laid it on my heart to go serve, to go to Nigeria.
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So in 2011, I went for my first time, and I kept on going back and serving every year.
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But as I kept on going back and serving, we saw the attacks against Christians increase.
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And I saw very few organizations or missionaries doing anything about it.
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And so that culminated to starting in 2019, I started equipping the persecuted,
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a mission dedicated to helping persecuted Christians in Nigeria.
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There are a lot of conflicting reports, and we see the really difficult-to-watch videos.
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What's happening right now is a real-life, systematic jihad against Christians
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perpetrated by radical Islamists from the north.
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And over the course of the last 30 years, the population of the Fulani tribe has exploded,
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and they practice a very radical form of Islam.
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And as they have expanded, they've been able to take over and get more political power
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And these states become Sharia law states, and they're just working their way further south,
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which is more of a Christian population is what they're running into.
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And so as they go in, I call it conquering of a nation by a thousand attacks.
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One little attack here, one little village here, one little attack here.
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It's not just one giant offensive where they're just trying to take over a whole country at once.
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And that's what's happening in Nigeria right now.
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Okay, tell us a little bit more about the Fulani tribe.
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You said that it's exploded in the past few years.
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They came in from Northern Africa, Chad, Niger, and then they're working their way into other
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countries, but they focused on Nigeria in particular because they believe if that they can take
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Nigeria, then they can take all over all of Africa.
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Nigeria is the most populous country in Africa.
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And it's one of the most rich in natural resources.
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So if they can take over Nigeria, the rest of the country goes because there's no other country
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in Africa that matches the population of Nigeria.
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Now, obviously, Islam is inherently about submission because that's what Islam means.
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And that's why the vast majority of designated terror groups around the world are Islamic.
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But not every Islamic group acts like this, going into villages and killing Christians in
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So what is it about this Fulani tribe that makes them so incredibly aggressive?
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They practice a very radical form of Islam that originated in Saudi Arabia.
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It's the same form of Islam that Al-Qaeda and ISIS have.
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And it's a very dominant form of Islam where, I mean, if you disagree with what we believe in,
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they feel they have the right to kill you, even if it's fellow Muslims.
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If they're not hardcore as the Fulani are, they feel it is their duty by Allah to go kill these people
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And that kind of brings me to a question that I've seen some disagreement about.
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Some people saying this is not a Christian genocide because Muslims, as you said, are also being
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We have a report coming out next month, and the actual numbers will show that the ratio is
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For every Muslim killed, it's five Christians that are killed.
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And what you don't see in Nigeria are mosques being burned and destroyed and Muslim villages
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completely ransacked and taken over versus the Christian villages where you have over
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10,000 churches that have been destroyed and nearly 800 Christian communities completely
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And the Nigerian government, what are they doing?
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The Nigerian government is complicit in these attacks, and they are spending lots of money
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in resources to try to keep the status quo because the Fulani have infiltrated the Nigerian
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They've infiltrated the military, the entire security apparatus in Nigeria.
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And so it's like a, I say Nigeria likes to lie to itself, but it likes to have a dog and
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pony show where they say, you know, let's say an attack happens.
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The Christians that may have tried to acquire some arms to arm themselves will get arrested
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The people trying to defend their villages end up getting arrested by the military and
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put in prison while the perpetrators, the guys actually doing the killing, get away scot
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And the Nigerian government, when I say they're very complicit, Truth Nigeria and our organization
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issued over 100 terror alerts since 2024 with 90% accuracy.
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We knew and had information that attack was going to occur where it was going to occur.
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And in every instance, our policy is to notify the Nigerian police and military of what we
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And in the majority of those cases, the Nigerian military police and government ignored our
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terror alerts and never intervened during these attacks.
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It's a way for us to give an outlet to journalists in Nigeria to actually share what's actually
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And we became a trusted source by villages and local community leaders all over the country.
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And they saw us as a, hey, you know, a trusted source of information.
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We have people all over the country saying, hey, we found this out.
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And then we investigate, say, to verify, is this really happening?
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But like I said, we have a long track record of the Nigerian government knowing where attacks
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were going to occur and when and doing nothing.
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And what do you know about the religious history of Nigeria?
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Well, when Islam spread through northern Africa, it made its way into Nigeria.
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And most of the early on, the religions in Nigeria was, you know, like traditional religions,
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But then missionaries came in in the late 1800s and the early 1900s, bringing the gospel
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But because of all the attacks and the insecurity and everything going on, it's now 50-50.
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And because we've just lost the lives of so many Christians.
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And then they left Christianity because they didn't want to get killed and submitted to Islam.
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Where is this militant arm of radical Islam, the Fulani tribe, getting all of their resources,
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The best way I can say is when the Arab Spring happened under Obama and the whole destabilization
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of the Middle East, you know, like, you know, Gaddafi gone, Assad gone, all these dictatorships
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Well, funding, weapons, everything started pouring in from the Middle East down to Northern
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And that is where some of the funding is coming in.
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But also on top of this, there are foreign interests that are taking advantage of this
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You have the Chinese that are illegally mining all over the Middle Belt and Northern Nigeria
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that are, they're benefiting off the insecurity.
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They're actually, you know, giving money and paying, you know, bribes or whatever you want
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to call it to mine in these areas where Christian villages once were.
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And they're paying the terrorists to, you know, just leave them alone and they do their
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So we're seeing Chinese activity going on, but also the other part of the funding is,
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I mean, when you think of Nigeria, a lot of people think kidnapping, but no one asks what
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Well, this is how they're also financing their war is through kidnapping.
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And currently we estimate there's over 10,000 Christians being held in terror camps, held
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And the people, if they want to see their relatives live, they sell everything they own, give it
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to the terrorists, hoping that they get their people back.
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But then these people are left with nothing and the terrorists make away with all the money.
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And this has been a continuous funding source for the local terrorists.
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Is it true that an incentive that these militants have to kidnap Christians is because Christians
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traditionally will pay more for their relatives, or basically the hostage is worth more ransom-wise
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If a Muslim gets kidnapped, they hardly ever pay the ransom.
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So if they know they can kidnap Christians, the Christians will pay.
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I mean, I can imagine, but among Christians who are there that you're talking to, I mean,
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you're literally trying to equip the persecuted for this kind of trial.
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They're, there's, there's a sense of hopelessness.
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They have been conditioned to have this be the norm.
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They're conditioned to feel that and believe that, you know, they wake up every day going,
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they're conditioned to think that this is normal.
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and we're coming in trying to bring hope and tell them,
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With the right amount of willpower and the right of international attention,
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It can be stopped by the people if they banded together and rose up.
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And even the moderate Muslims uniting with them to say enough is enough.
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taking back political control of the government,
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I meet with survivors that came out of these terror camps.
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They maybe get fed once every two or three days.
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They come out looking like Holocaust survivors with massive amounts of disease.
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Our organization is there to bring them comfort,
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we get their stories and we come alongside and pray with them and help them rebuild their lives.
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I think can make an offer to the Nigerian government.
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Does the Nigerian government want a prosperous Nigeria?
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Nigeria that can do business with the rest of the world?
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do they want the payoff that the terrorists are giving them more than seeing a prosperous Nigeria and being a beacon of Africa for the whole world?
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Do you love your terrorists more in the kidnappings and the killings and the money you're benefiting from,
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from these things more than seeing a total transformation of the country where everyone can prosper?
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The government probably is taking bribes from the bad actors who are benefiting economically from the destabilization and the violence there.
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many Muslim majority countries have a special hatred for Christians.
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And just for religious reasons want to see Christians killed and want to see Christianity abolished.
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And this is an easy conquest because the people in Nigeria are already so poor and already so weak.
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So this is an easy win to a lot of those radically Islamic countries over there and in the Middle East.
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What you're saying is that the offer that the United States government makes,
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the Nigerian government has to outweigh whatever perceived benefits they are getting from these bad actors.
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let's listen to Donald Trump because he did say something about this on October 31st.
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If the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians,
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the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria.
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We're going to do things to Nigeria that Nigeria is not going to be happy about
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and may very well go into that now disgraced country.
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Guns are blazing to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible, horrible atrocities.
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I'm hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action.
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just like the terrorist thugs attack our cherished Christians.
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the Nigerian government better move fast before it's too late.
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I know that you're not a political organization,
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I'm very grateful for that strength in words that we would have never gotten from the Biden administration,
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So he's not just talking about economic deals there.
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He is calling upon his Department of War to potentially respond with aggression.
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trying to get the government to recognize what is going on.
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They don't want to hear anything we had to say.
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people are being killed in Nigeria because of climate change.
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That was our official state department directive that Christians were being killed because of,
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People are being killed because of climate change.
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The radical Islamists are moving in because of climate change and killing people.
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we've been trying to go to the Biden administration and tell people what's going on and they wouldn't even listen.
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then they would have to look in the face of the ideology of Islam and admit that it's a problem,
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All of these groups that seemingly don't have anything in common,
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they don't want to mess with that worldview that they have.
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I can tell you stories about like USAID in Nigeria and the stuff we saw.
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they're operating directive for Nigeria and aid was advancing LGBTQ issues.
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Like a gay Christmas play somewhere in Nigeria and pushing feminism.
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but what people don't talk about is the 3.5 million Christians that have been
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We went to this camp where there people are essentially living in garbage bag,
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And we started doing a lot of work with this particular camp,
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And then we decided we're going to raise enough money to build them
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And so we went in to check on the work that we've been doing.
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And I see four giant garbage cans in this camp that says USAID on them,
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they just came and they brought us four garbage cans.
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are they coming in with a method to take the trash and put it somewhere else?
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they just showed up and brought us these and took pictures.
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And their USA gift to a camp was four garbage cans.
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And people were mad at the Trump administration for cutting a lot of the money that we were giving to USAID.
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is that so much of USAID was going to that kind of thing.
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But also we know for a fact that the food trucks that USAID was sending was ending up in terror camps.
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So we call it the Nigerian shuffle where you have trucks and trucks loaded of food and USAID.
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They break down magically right outside of a terror area.
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all the stuff's gone and trucks are back up and running.
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So people living in camps that have nothing but the clothes on their backs from after the attacks
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I remember Ron Paul said that foreign aid is money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
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they're powerful and they have all of the resources.
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our tax dollars going to these federal bureaucratic entities being shipped abroad in the name of empathy,
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they're not getting to the people that actually need our help.
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Because we're going to make sure the aid gets to the people and doesn't get siphoned off by the government.
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we've been able to be very effective with very little by just doing that.
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like the scariest words in the English language are,
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so often curtail that because we are not supposed to outsource our compassion to the government
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because the government so often mishandles that.
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Let's talk more specifically about what attacks are going on.
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I have read about increased attacks on schools.
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We've heard the reports of thousands of Christians being slaughtered in their churches,
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either being kidnapped or being tortured, maimed, beheaded.
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And sometimes when they are kidnapped, they are forced into conversion.
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And then you mentioned Sharia, which of course requires, for example,
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if someone is accused of stealing, their hand is cut off.
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And so I've seen stories of that, of people's limbs chopped off in the name of,
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Tell us more specifically, what does the violence really look like?
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Well, just yesterday, just yesterday, a church was attacked.
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And just four days ago, there was a school where 25 girls were kidnapped.
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There's a high chance that they're not even going to hold them for ransom.
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They're going to take them and turn them into baby factories.
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Which is what happened to most of the Chibuk girls that were kidnapped a long time ago.
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And everybody says, free our girls, free girls in Chibuk.
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Tell us more about that, because I was looking in my research about the, you said Chibuk, right?
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Tell us more about that attack, because I remember at the time people talking about that,
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free these girls, never talking about Islam, but just saying, you know, we need to help these people.
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Well, several of those girls are still living up north, and they were forced marriages.
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They were forced to terrorists, and they've had children.
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That's what they do with a lot of these Christian girls.
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And, you know, they rape them, and they force them to have children over and over and over again.
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And so on the kidnapping side, that's what happens to these girls.
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And then, you know, other people, like I said, are kidnapped, they're held for ransom, and the families have to sell everything they own just to get them back.
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And even sometimes, after they get the money, they still kill hostages.
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Well, think of, you live in a village of 1,000 people.
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They kill as many people as they can, your family members, your daughters, your aunts, uncles, cousins, your mom, your dad.
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They destroy your home completely to the ground.
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And then the Nigerian government says, oh, sorry, too bad.
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So there's 3.5 million Christians right now living in these camps that are no longer allowed to return to their homes.
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Let's play the video that you were telling me about before we got started of the Christians who are being massacred.
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I also saw this video of this woman and the caption said it was a woman in Nigeria, although, you know, things like that, you just never know.
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I don't know if you saw this, but and we'll play it.
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We could actually put it up even as I'm talking.
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I'm sure she's a lot younger than she looked, but she looks so distressed and so traumatized.
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She's got a baby and she's got a toddler and she's got an older kid behind her.
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And you can kind of hear these men who with guns kind of yelling at her and she is just instinctively putting her hands up like this.
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Like she's gone through this many times before.
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She's trying to bring her babies and she's trying to protect them.
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And I saw someone reported that she and her children were slaughtered after that.
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And, you know, like just as a mom myself, I can see so much.
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I don't know if that was from Nigeria and if you even saw that video, but go ahead.
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That particular video you're referring to is from Sudan, but it is very indicative and very common of what we see in Nigeria.
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And I'd like to segue into this is that the reason Americans and mainstream media doesn't know what's going on in Nigeria and there's like misinformation.
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There's all this mixed information that's coming out is because the news in Nigeria, when it gets to the mainstream media is always filtered through Al Jazeera.
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So somebody from the Nigerian government writes the, if their narrative, their official story,
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then it goes to Al Jazeera filtered through Al Jazeera and then that goes to the AP and that is the mainstream article that goes out.
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They just copy what Al Jazeera did and then put it out to the mainstream media.
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So I'll, I'll, I would like to go to an instance that happened in June.
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It was called the father's day massacre where 280 Christians were, half of them were burned alive.
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The other half were macheted to death and shot because they were trying to escape being burned alive.
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The mainstream media said it was a hundred people killed.
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The official article said it was unknown gunmen or bandits.
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So you say a hundred people were killed, but it never says who, what, where, and how.
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And though that information is always void of the articles.
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So by the time it gets to the mainstream press, they lie about how many people were killed and they definitely leave out who did it.
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Because Al Jazeera, for people who don't know, is a Middle Eastern, mostly Muslim publication.
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It's the Muslim publication, but it's a trusted news source to the world.
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So when the article comes out of Al Jazeera, then CNN, USA Today, all the other outlets will pick up that article and say, that's what happened.
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So it's up to organizations like yours to get the truth out.
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So that's why we created Truth Nigeria, because I kept on seeing this over and over again.
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And I was going, if they keep lying about the numbers and who did it, that's why nobody really knows what's going on.
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And that's so Truth Nigeria and giving an outlet to journalists in Nigeria to actually document and share what's actually happening.
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But that's why people keep asking me, why does nobody know about this?
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Well, because you're getting false information.
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And the people there don't have, you know, all the access to iPhones and internet that we do.
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If this were happening where we live, easily people would be.
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But, you know, it actually, even here, with all the access to technology that we have, things get muddied by the time they're dispersed to the general public.
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So if that's true of us here, how much more true is that of someone who lives in a third world country?
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And the other thing is our journalists risk their lives every day.
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Like, not only with the terrorists, but the Nigerian government.
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They've been, they've gone through hell to tell the truth.
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But they still believe that the truth needs to get out at the risk of their own lives.
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Tucker Carlson, obviously one of the most powerful people in media here.
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I've never heard of him before, but they were talking about this genocide that's going on.
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And this guy, Robert, basically said it's not really just a Christian genocide.
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I spoke to the foreign minister before I came here because I wanted to get clarity on the government's position.
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There are probably an equal or more number of Muslim deaths.
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Well, Robert Amsterdam is a mercenary lawyer for hire.
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And he don't get out of bed for less than $500,000 to go jump on a cause and do something.
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Now, the big problem with Robert Amsterdam and claiming that there is no genocide against Christians in Nigeria is really funny to me, but also horrific.
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Because this guy in particular lawyered up and helped a guy by the name of El Rufay from Nigeria, who is a Nigerian politician, Muslim, but also a guy that has helped orchestrate attacks against Christians under his political leadership.
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So, this guy, Robert Amsterdam, shows up on Tucker Carlson's things as though there's no Christian persecution in Nigeria.
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And he also says that, you know, you know, I'm friends with this such and such political family, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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People like Robert Amsterdam and other U.S. lobbyists and diplomats that are pulling the Nigerian government narrative, they don't go to real Nigeria.
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They go to the fanciest of hotels, they smoke the cigars, drink the alcohol, but they never actually set foot in real Nigeria and see what's actually happening.
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They're just mercenaries for hire like Robert Amsterdam.
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So, the motivation to misrepresent something like that, you're saying it's just money?
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He's been paid by very bad actors in Nigeria to lay cover for them.
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And right now, even as Trump is speaking out of what's happening in Nigeria, there are political forces within our U.S. government that are being paid by the Nigerian government to lobby to keep the status quo.
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And this is a big fight that we are fighting against right now.
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And we are praying that truth and justice reigns over these corrupt lobbyists.
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Um, I remember this video circulating, I believe this was from Nigeria, of the pastor, and he was basically laying it or standing in an open grave after one of these massacred massacres, just kind of begging for help and attention from specifically from Trump.
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Now, please tell Trump to save our life in Nigeria.
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He has been building to settle peace between Israel and also Hamas.
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Now, his attention, I'm calling his attention to Nigeria.
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I'm guessing this is the sentiment of a lot of pastors.
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I sense his desperation, but gosh, the courage to, the incredible courage that it takes to stand up and ask for something and to say, I'm a Christian and we need help.
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I know he's a friend and we support that pastor.
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Pastor Ezekiel is one of the bravest pastors I've ever met on the face of this earth.
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He is praying with people and trying to be a spiritual light in the darkness.
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And we support Pastor Ezekiel and try to help him out however we can.
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And if we had a thousand Pastor Ezekiels in Nigeria, Nigeria would change overnight.
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If we had a thousand Pastor Ezekiels in America, this place would change overnight.
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And just for those watching this, I would like to encourage you, please keep Pastor Ezekiel in your prayers.
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And I've noticed that a lot of people don't want to talk about Nigeria or Sudan or these other places where Christians are being persecuted because of the Muslim thing.
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They don't want to be seen as Islamophobic or whatever it is.
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To acknowledge how Islam has conquered every nation it's touched since 640 A.D.,
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And what is playing out in Nigeria right now could be what would play out in America 30 years from now.
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It is not in their religion to assimilate to a culture or in an area that you move into.
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You are commanded to dominate that culture and make everybody submit to you.
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That is the fundamentals of Islam and how it operates.
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So for people to say, oh, you know, there's a mosque going up in my backyard.
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That is a sign of them conquering your territory.
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They can manipulate the laws around you to advance Islam.
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They will take anything they can to advance their cause and eventually put you in submission.
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If they have a minority population, they have to be nice, play nice, be quiet.
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One, it's they reach that threshold is when the political threshold is when the violence occurs.
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I get the same story from survivors in Nigeria.
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Where even their neighbors partook in the attacks.
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And then stole their property and took everything they had.
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And they, Fulani have a saying in Nigeria is they say, treat the Christian like a pet chicken.
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You raise the chicken, you feed the chicken, you pet the chicken, love the chicken until it's time to chop off its head.
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I think some people that they will just kind of dismiss it because they won't think of it as a religious or ideological thing going on.
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Well, this is a war-torn tribal country anyway.
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But then when we look at Europe, we were just talking on Monday about the 10-year anniversary of the Bataclan attack, which was in Paris, France, when hundreds of people were in Paris.
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They were disemboweled, they were raped, their eyes were gouged out by these northern African Muslims who had entered through legal migration mostly.
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But they had been accepted by people who were compassionate, who thought, well, I've got a Muslim neighbor and he's nice, which I'm sure is true.
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But as you said, Medina versus Mecca, this is part of their ideology, that as soon as they hit a particular threshold of a majority, that's when they take power and they kind of forge a conquest.
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And we're seeing pockets of this happening in Dearborn.
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We're seeing it, you guys better be watching out, you know, in Dallas.
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And it's only a matter of time unless something is done.
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When you read history, look at how, why would you expect anything different?
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For over 1,500 years, why would you expect anything different?
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And it's out of love for our neighbors and innocent people that we push back against this darkness.
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You know, some people have been speaking up specifically about the violence in Nigeria and
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someone that I didn't expect to have the moral clarity on this subject is Nicki Minaj.
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I think that she actually has some ancestry from Nigeria and so this might be kind of close
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She originally posted about it on X, which I thought she had a good original post, but then
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In Nigeria, Christians are being targeted, driven from their homes and killed.
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Families have been torn apart and entire communities live in fear constantly simply because of how
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Sadly, this problem is not only a growing problem in Nigeria, but also in so many other countries
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across the world, and it demands urgent action.
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And I want to be clear, protecting Christians in Nigeria is not about taking sides or dividing
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So it sounds like she's got better moral clarity than the Biden administration on this.
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None of us saw Nicki Minaj coming out and speaking out against what's happening in Nigeria
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and we welcome it and God bless her for doing it.
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And we need more people to speak out, more diaspora to speak out, more Nigerians that
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live in America to speak out about what's happening in Nigeria.
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Well, there's two things I want to talk about that I hope builds up our faith for those of
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And one, I just want to hear, maybe if you have a story or just general description of
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When you think back to someone that you've interacted with there that you're like, wow,
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that is Holy Spirit-empowered faith and joy in the midst of this tribulation.
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One particular story is part of our ministry, we have a widow support ministry.
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And one of these ladies, her husband was a pastor that was murdered, chopped up into pieces
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And she was sharing with me her story and I was starting to cry.
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I mean, I was crying because I heard the story and she grabbed me and she said, there's no
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reason for you to be sad because I have forgiven the attackers.
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We look to the Lord and put our trust in Jesus.
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And that is the resilience that the Christians have in Nigeria.
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They, they know all this tragedies going on around them, but even at the threat of their
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church being attacked, they come in wearing their Sunday best, walking long distances to
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So that's the resilience that these Nigerian Christians have.
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I just thought of another clip that I saw and it's, uh, of a congregation in Nigeria in
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I mean, against all odds, there are Muslims coming to Christ in Nigeria.
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And we do support and, uh, encourage underground missionaries to go up north.
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And I just got a report the other day from our coordinator that over 600 Muslims have come to
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And, uh, what we do is if one, if they come to know Christ, we have a system where we create
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safe houses that they go into where they get discipled for two months and then they make
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the choice, do you move, do they move away from their families for the South?
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Because once they accept Christ, I mean, there's a death sentence.
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Their family will come after them and kill them if they find out they committed to, if
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So we have a system where they go into safe houses, they get discipled, and then they choose.
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They move South, they go into an area, you know, kind of blend in, or do they make the
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And if they make the choice to go up, back up into the North being missionaries, we support
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Do you see this as kind of like a growing trend that, I mean, God is up to something that
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And a lot of the moderates, uh, moderate Muslims that hate seeing the killings and the massacres
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going on, they're starting to wake up and say, do I want to, do I really want to be part
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And at the risk of their own life, some of them are coming in and converting to Christ
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You know, we're unapologetically Christian organization and we unapologetically proselytize.
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And it's only the work of God that's doing this.
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What advice would you give people to Christians here who want to share the gospel with their
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Be the hands and feet of Jesus and just speak to them.
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You don't have to be a jerk about it, but speak truth and love and share the gospel with
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They'll either accept or reject it, but it's our job to share the gospel with everybody.
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Tell me what Christians listening to this, what are the top things?
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If you could say two things, to pray and then to do, how, what should they pray?
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What should they do to help our brothers and sisters in Nigeria?
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Add the person, add the plight of the persecuted Christians in Nigeria to your prayer list.
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Talk about it with your Bible studies, your small groups.
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We're an organization that actually helps persecuted Christians on the ground.
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We are there on the ground every day, helping our persecuted brothers and sisters any way we
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The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
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And that's something that we are called to do, to care for and think of and consider the
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plight of our brothers and sisters in Christ around the world.
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So thank you so much for what you're doing and how you are a vessel of God's grace and
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And I hope that we can all partner together in helping our family in Christ that's abroad.
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And of course, this is happening not only in Nigeria, it's happening in a lot of different
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And all of us are called to different acts of generosity and different acts of service.
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And we don't have to worry about being everything for everyone.
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