Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1273 ｜ Autism Fraud, Islamic Corruption & a Crucial Tennessee Election

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00:00:30.960 President Trump is calling out the toxic empathy

00:00:33.440 that contributed to the tragedy in DC last week,

00:00:36.400 as well as the widespread Somali corruption 0.99

00:00:39.840 in the state of Minnesota.

00:00:41.520 Also, Tennessee, you've got a big election tomorrow.

00:00:45.120 Let's look at who is vying for this seat

00:00:48.320 in the seventh district of Tennessee.

00:00:51.040 All right, we've got that and so much more

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00:01:10.960 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:01:12.400 Happy Monday.

00:01:13.520 Hope everyone is having a wonderful day so far

00:01:16.000 that your week is off to a great start.

00:01:18.000 Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

00:01:19.440 We had a nice little break over in Relatable land.

00:01:23.040 We did have two new episodes come out,

00:01:25.360 but we recorded those before the holiday week.

00:01:27.920 And so we got to take a good break.

00:01:29.840 We're feeling rejuvenated and we have so much to talk about.

00:01:34.560 As ever, God's eternal plan of redemption

00:01:37.040 is going off without a hitch.

00:01:38.960 I reminded you of this on Thanksgiving on Instagram and X

00:01:42.160 because gosh, the news feels dark.

00:01:44.080 And we're going to get into some of that today.

00:01:45.760 So important for us to understand and to navigate

00:01:48.880 and to push back against the darkness as Christians,

00:01:51.280 and especially as moms raising kids in this very often scary world.

00:01:56.480 But it's important to remember that this is our father's world,

00:01:59.200 that we should never forget that though the wrong seems off so strong,

00:02:03.440 he is the ruler yet.

00:02:05.120 As you guys know, that's my favorite hymn.

00:02:07.360 I have to remind myself so often of God's sovereignty.

00:02:10.720 Whatever is going on with you personally, whatever is going on politically,

00:02:14.960 whatever is going on in your life professionally,

00:02:18.000 whatever is going on anywhere, God is never surprised by it.

00:02:21.600 He's never taken aback by it.

00:02:24.160 And Romans 8 reminds us that he works all things,

00:02:28.160 that's all things together for the good of those who love him,

00:02:32.000 who are called according to his purpose.

00:02:34.160 So even the things that we do not understand,

00:02:36.480 even all of the things that seem completely hopeless and void of any benefit,

00:02:43.360 God even works those things together for good.

00:02:46.400 And ultimately he will win.

00:02:48.720 One day there will be no more confusion, no more chaos, no more sin,

00:02:52.800 no more gender confusion, no more deception, no more propaganda, no more abortion, 0.51

00:02:57.520 no more murder, no more violence.

00:02:59.680 And Jesus will rule in perfect peace.

00:03:02.080 We have that to look forward to.

00:03:04.080 But we are here in this now, in this present temporal moment.

00:03:08.720 We are placed here by a God who does nothing arbitrarily.

00:03:12.960 And our purpose, of course, is to glorify God.

00:03:15.760 But that means in our lives, both in big and small ways, in private and in public ways,

00:03:21.680 pushing back against the darkness, confronting the lies of this world with truth.

00:03:28.720 And very often, the lies of this world don't look like lies.

00:03:34.240 They don't look like evil.

00:03:35.360 They don't look like objective wickedness.

00:03:38.400 But just like Satan, who disguises himself as an angel of light, lies sound good.

00:03:44.560 Destruction sounds good.

00:03:46.480 Danger, both to ourselves, to our communities, to our country, sometimes actually looks like empathy.

00:03:52.880 And you see, the media is very angry.

00:03:56.080 Again, still, maybe still.

00:03:58.400 Again, I'm not sure.

00:03:59.600 The book Toxic Empathy that I wrote came out in October 2024.

00:04:03.920 And I feel like actually the anger and the ire just around the title and the premise of the book has only grown stronger.

00:04:11.680 It seems like every month there is some new article by some journalist who feels that they are uncovering my book, Toxic Empathy,

00:04:20.520 and that they have found this trend that's happening on the right.

00:04:25.280 But as I said, of course, this is not new.

00:04:27.500 And before I wrote the book, before, by the grace of God, it became a New York Times bestseller,

00:04:33.300 I was talking about this.

00:04:35.220 And I'm not the only one.

00:04:36.360 People have been talking about the weaponization of compassion in different realms for quite a while.

00:04:43.700 Paul Bloom is a Yale psychologist coming from a secular perspective who wrote, I believe, back in 2016, a book called Against Empathy.

00:04:53.700 And from his professional and scholarly perspective, a hyperfixation on empathy actually makes people more cruel to the out group.

00:05:03.800 And in the name of protecting a perceived victim actually is extremely exclusive and unfeeling and calloused towards those that are perceived to be against this perceived victim.

00:05:17.880 And so my book, from a Christian perspective, simply spoke about the truth that the progressive media and progressive politicians and activists capitalize upon Christian compassion

00:05:31.960 and manipulate our sincere desire to be loving and kind to convince us to support progressive policies that ultimately are really bad for our country,

00:05:46.480 for ourselves, for the very people that the media claims to want to help.

00:05:51.500 That is true when it comes to abortion.

00:05:53.420 It's true when it comes to immigration. 1.00

00:05:55.060 It's true when it comes to gender. 1.00

00:05:57.140 It's true when it comes to sexuality and sexual identity.

00:06:00.520 It's true when it comes to crime.

00:06:02.720 It's true when it comes to COVID.

00:06:04.480 It's true when it comes to climate.

00:06:06.760 The argument is if you do not latch on to the progressive perspective on these things, you are a bad person and you hate your neighbor.

00:06:17.320 But it's not true.

00:06:19.560 It's a lie.

00:06:20.560 Their policies actually have deleterious outcomes.

00:06:25.060 But Axios feels that they are highlighting this, I guess, in a novel way.

00:06:32.100 There was an article that came out yesterday by a journalist named Russell Contreras.

00:06:38.580 He wrote, Empathy is the New Christian Battleground. 0.91

00:06:42.140 And there's nothing much wrong with this article, I will say.

00:06:46.180 It's pretty straightforward.

00:06:47.660 He talks about some other people who have been speaking about this, namely Elon Musk, who is on Joe Rogan's podcast, Pastor Joe Rigney.

00:06:57.980 He also wrote a book about this subject that came out a little bit after mine.

00:07:03.660 And then he quotes me.

00:07:06.620 I spoke on Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk podcast in 2024.

00:07:11.180 And I said, empathy hoisted up as the highest virtue or even a virtue at all gets us into a really big mess.

00:07:18.380 Which, of course, is absolutely true because empathy is powerful.

00:07:25.120 And my argument is and has always been that it can lead you in a good direction or it can lead you in a bad direction.

00:07:32.840 It can lead you towards kindness and love, although it's not kindness and love in its own. 1.00

00:07:37.700 Or it can lead you to supporting stupid policies and stupid positions. 1.00

00:07:43.580 It can lead you to affirming sin. 1.00

00:07:45.420 It can lead you to validate lies.

00:07:46.860 And it can lead you to support destructive policies.

00:07:49.680 And I believe when it comes to progressive policies, that's exactly what it's done.

00:07:53.820 And this article quotes some other people who have another perspective on empathy.

00:07:59.380 For example, a Catholic priest, Brandon Booth, says,

00:08:03.660 As in the Christian tradition, to have anybody argue that a spirit of empathy is somehow a vulnerability is insane.

00:08:09.520 That's actually a perfect way to put it.

00:08:12.380 Putting empathy first is a vulnerability.

00:08:15.320 It makes you vulnerable to lies. 1.00

00:08:17.180 It makes you vulnerable to stupidity because you think that you are supporting these things in the name of love. 0.99

00:08:22.500 But really, it's just because you feel so deeply how a person feels, which is not the same as love. 0.99

00:08:27.940 God gets to define love, and he does.

00:08:29.720 In 1 Corinthians 13, 6, love, among other things, never rejoices in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth.

00:08:36.600 That means that love, defined by the God who is love, 1 John 4, 8, is inextricably intertwined with the truth.

00:08:43.920 So you can't actually love someone and tell them that they were born in the wrong body.

00:08:47.880 That's a lie.

00:08:48.600 You can't love someone and call a man a woman or a boy she.

00:08:52.200 You can't love someone and advocate for the murder of an innocent baby inside the womb.

00:08:57.800 You can't love someone and support open borders, which leads to chaos, both for the countries of origin and our country here.

00:09:06.980 You can't love someone and support the soft-on-crime policies that lead to more death and danger.

00:09:13.440 You can't love someone and deny a child their right to their mother and father by redefining marriage.

00:09:19.420 You can't love someone by supporting sin and telling people lies.

00:09:22.860 It's just not possible.

00:09:24.020 You can feel empathy for them and support lies, but you can't truly love them.

00:09:29.100 And Christians aren't just called to empathy.

00:09:30.980 We are called to love no matter how we feel about someone. 0.93

00:09:35.080 But, you know, Salon Magazine, which is a far-left extreme outlet that says all this ridiculous stuff.

00:09:42.480 In fact, I will read you some headlines in just a minute from this author named Amanda,

00:09:46.860 who wrote an article about me, and it's called Magga's War on Empathy, was started by a woman.

00:09:55.140 Allie Beth Stuckey weaponizes her gender to sell the idea of a cold-hearted Jesus. 1.00

00:10:01.920 Okay, so she talks about how Elon Musk and Gad Saad have talked about this, what they call suicidal empathy.

00:10:09.560 Elon Musk said the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.

00:10:14.300 And, yes, that is true because we are fundamentally, whether we acknowledge it or not, a Christian nation.

00:10:20.820 But as we've become less Christian and trying to hold on to Christian values, we've perverted them.

00:10:26.240 So we've let go of this truth and love dichotomy that we are actually called to, that Jesus embodied himself.

00:10:32.120 And we've taken on this, like, superficial form of feeling, which is empathy.

00:10:39.900 I mean, it's the same thing.

00:10:41.160 Like, we want to hold on to the generosity that Christians are called to, but we don't want to do the hard thing of actually voluntarily emptying out our pockets.

00:10:49.500 And so we support a welfare state, and we call that Christian love.

00:10:52.740 But again, that's just a perversion of Christian love. 0.92

00:10:56.060 And it's the same thing with toxic empathy.

00:10:59.020 But this woman is especially mad that I am a woman talking about this. 1.00

00:11:06.100 She says, fundamentalist Christian influencer.

00:11:08.860 I would love for all of these people to define their terms.

00:11:12.320 What is fundamentalist?

00:11:14.420 What does that mean?

00:11:15.900 Ali Bessak, he doesn't see empathy as a failure of evolution, because I guess Gad Saad and others do.

00:11:20.840 As a creationist, who denies the scientific reality of prehistoric dinosaurs.

00:11:25.440 Now, Amanda, would a girl who denies the existence of prehistoric dinosaurs have a daddy long neck right there? 1.00

00:11:35.600 Does that sound like me, Amanda?

00:11:38.660 And a stegosaurus right there.

00:11:41.840 And a triceratops, also known as baby bop, right there.

00:11:47.660 Amanda, seriously, you've gotten this wrong.

00:11:52.600 Dinosaurs, they're our mascot here at Relatable, because we believe in them so much.

00:11:58.640 I believe in them more than I believe in Santa Claus saying ho, ho, ho.

00:12:02.680 I believe in dinosaurs because everyone knows that when you see a bone in the ground,

00:12:10.640 you just know that a pterodactyl sounds like...

00:12:14.660 You can just tell.

00:12:17.360 You just know it.

00:12:18.340 You can see it.

00:12:19.800 That's just how it works, okay?

00:12:22.800 And you know that they have purple and blue scales and little short arms and ran really fast.

00:12:27.780 It's just obvious, Amanda.

00:12:29.840 Why would anyone question that?

00:12:32.380 But just for some homework, you should look up the skeleton of a hippo.

00:12:37.060 Or a monkey or a chicken.

00:12:40.840 And you should just tell me what you think that looks like.

00:12:45.040 But I don't know why you would even say this.

00:12:46.780 We have never, ever, ever denied the scientific reality of prehistoric dinosaurs.

00:12:51.040 I love them so much because I know that they all looked like Barney.

00:12:55.340 Okay, we've got more to get into, Amanda, in just a second.

00:12:58.460 And we've got so much else to talk about today when it comes to toxic empathy.

00:13:01.840 But I found this hip piece in my lap this morning.

00:13:05.200 I had to talk about it.

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00:14:17.000 Now, speaking of my hair, Amanda really makes it personal.

00:14:22.020 She points this out.

00:14:24.640 And I just have to say this is not the first time that I've gotten critiques like this, okay?

00:14:30.160 The Relatable set is not safe.

00:14:33.200 She already came for the dinosaurs, but now she says this.

00:14:37.440 Relatable is a try-hard name.

00:14:39.640 Actually, I did not try hard to come up with it, if that helps at all.

00:14:43.740 It is relatable.

00:14:45.840 It's relatable to thousands of women. 1.00

00:14:48.400 Thankfully, hundreds of thousands of women. 1.00

00:14:51.200 And she does say somewhere that this podcast is only talking to men, which is hilarious because I could show her some numbers.

00:14:59.980 It is like 95% women. 1.00

00:15:01.920 And that's why we had 7,000 women show up in Dallas, Texas just a couple months ago. 1.00

00:15:06.740 This is a women's podcast, just maybe not for Amanda yet. 0.62

00:15:10.000 But I don't know.

00:15:10.720 God could save her.

00:15:12.100 The logo's font, relatable, is straight out of Mid-Century Woman's Magazine.

00:15:16.260 I didn't even try to do that.

00:15:18.600 Alexander, the designer of this, did you do that on purpose?

00:15:23.300 Stucky has soft blonde hair.

00:15:26.120 Okay.

00:15:27.180 Fact tech, true.

00:15:27.840 Now, this is just, that's just hate speech.

00:15:35.600 Anyone who knows me knows that I am an autumn.

00:15:39.080 I do not, I do not wear pastels.

00:15:42.220 My background is black.

00:15:43.740 This is chocolate brown.

00:15:45.500 White is not a pastel.

00:15:47.200 But I do just want to point out, because you guys can't see this when you see my set,

00:15:51.800 that I have this cross stitch right here.

00:15:54.600 One of my prized possessions that we put up in our set that says pastel hate influencer.

00:16:01.820 Now, pastel hate influencer is some relatable lore that comes from this tweet from three

00:16:08.520 years ago from a man who believes that he's a woman who writes for Media Matters, who said

00:16:14.000 pastel hate influencer Allie Bestucki shared a list of alternate words instead of groomer 0.98

00:16:19.020 to hurl at LGBTQ people on Twitter with her listeners today, doubling down on maliciously

00:16:24.060 portraying queer people as a threat to children. 0.99

00:16:26.720 No, no, no, no, not queer people, just pedophiles. 0.99

00:16:31.060 That's it. 0.99

00:16:31.760 I was actually talking just about people who groom children.

00:16:35.000 I think it's weird that you conflated those two things.

00:16:38.100 But the link was to an article from Media Matters.

00:16:43.400 And Media Matters said in 2022, Stucky's bright pink Twitter header, Instagramable set decorations,

00:16:49.380 that's more like it.

00:16:50.240 Thank you.

00:16:50.680 And Aesthetic Podcast apparel are in stark relief against the backdrop of the virulently 0.96

00:16:55.440 anti-LGBTQ rhetoric that fuels her extremist right-wing world view.

00:17:01.980 Okay, so these people, so that's where this comes from, this beautiful cross stitch right

00:17:05.940 here.

00:17:06.480 Pastel hate influencer.

00:17:08.240 Again, no pastels.

00:17:09.540 But these people have a hard time with the aesthetic.

00:17:13.400 I guess they believe that, I don't know, it's supposed to be harsh, that it's supposed,

00:17:18.580 I'm supposed to look like Biden did a couple years ago with the like red light backdrop behind

00:17:25.740 him.

00:17:25.940 I'm not really sure what they think that I should be communicating with my aesthetic.

00:17:30.240 Even Cosmo in July 2025 said, started this article saying, in the recording studio, Allie Beth

00:17:37.580 Stuckey sits on a cream sofa, her blonde hair perfectly tousled.

00:17:41.720 She leans into the microphone and speaks. 0.99

00:17:45.060 I'm loving, I'm loving the hair descriptions.

00:17:48.380 Um, I'm loving that they are pointing those things out as something that is actually nefarious.

00:17:55.060 Later in this article, she says, I have fascistic views.

00:17:58.820 Somehow, believing in free speech, believing that you shouldn't die for preaching the gospel

00:18:05.620 or saying things that are true the way that my friend Charlie Kirk did, like believing that

00:18:11.440 people should have freedom of religious expression.

00:18:13.780 I, believing that men can't be women, believing that women shouldn't be slaughtered inside the 0.99

00:18:19.820 womb, believing that parents have a right to raise and protect their child and that the child

00:18:27.060 doesn't belong to the school or to the state.

00:18:29.500 I guess those are fascistic beliefs, but I'm sure that this woman, Amanda, is a bastion of 1.00

00:18:36.140 liberty and courage.

00:18:37.420 And I took a screenshot of some of the other articles, uh, that she's written.

00:18:42.460 Why J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk's hug made tongues wag?

00:18:46.360 Gross.

00:18:47.240 Usha Vance doesn't do dishes. 0.99

00:18:48.840 So why the wedding ring excuse?

00:18:51.480 Um, this is just kind of who she is.

00:18:52.920 She has like a real problem with women who don't fall in line with her extremist, progressive, 1.00

00:18:59.520 pro-baby-killing, pro-men-in-girls-bathrooms ideology.

00:19:03.480 And she's really angry that someone like me who represents a huge demographic of Christian

00:19:11.840 women exists. 1.00

00:19:13.260 She's like very, very bothered by it.

00:19:15.760 And so she wants you to think that this feminine aesthetic is a cover for something actually 1.00

00:19:20.940 nefarious.

00:19:21.720 And I hate to break it to her and all of these people that have such a hard time with this,

00:19:27.360 but it's just genuine.

00:19:28.960 I really am just a wife and a mom trying to navigate the craziness of this world, which

00:19:35.640 is with as much clarity as the Bible gives me as I can possibly muster.

00:19:41.480 And thankfully, there are so many of you who do relate to it and not everyone has to agree

00:19:48.540 with us.

00:19:48.940 Of course, that's just going to be, that's just, that's just reality.

00:19:53.920 But when you have someone who is so darkened in their understanding, whose heart is so hard,

00:19:59.680 you just have to pray for them.

00:20:00.960 You really do.

00:20:02.040 And I think Amanda would probably hate it if we all prayed for her, but we should.

00:20:06.500 And I don't mean that sarcastically.

00:20:07.980 I don't mean that tritely at all.

00:20:09.560 Like, I genuinely mean that.

00:20:11.860 Not pray that she would start listening to Relatable and become a Related Girl. 0.92

00:20:15.260 By the way, I think I like that better than Related Gal.

00:20:17.460 I think I'm going to test that out.

00:20:19.380 But that truly, Jesus would save her.

00:20:21.260 Like, if you look at the writings that she has, she is actually the one that is like very

00:20:24.900 angry, very resentful, very bitter, very deeply disturbed.

00:20:29.120 And like, let's just pray that Jesus like frees her from that and softens her heart towards

00:20:34.900 the truth.

00:20:35.660 That's the best thing that we can do.

00:20:36.960 And actually, that's what Jesus asks us to do for our enemies.

00:20:40.560 It's easy to pray for our friends.

00:20:41.860 It's easy to love our friends.

00:20:44.020 But it's much harder to be kind to and pray for and truly want the best for people who

00:20:49.660 position themselves as our enemies.

00:20:51.600 So let's pray for these people.

00:20:53.200 Let's pray for the people at Media Matters, the people at Cosmo, the people at Salon.

00:20:57.460 They really, really need it.

00:20:59.700 Truly.

00:21:00.680 Okay.

00:21:01.480 The truth is, though, is that we are over the target.

00:21:04.940 That is why this is happening.

00:21:07.140 We are over the target when it comes to toxic empathy.

00:21:11.120 Progressives don't want us to talk about this because this is the sharpest sword that they

00:21:16.180 have in their weaponry.

00:21:19.320 Like, this is the best tool they have in their toolkit.

00:21:22.160 It's not facts.

00:21:23.580 It's not data.

00:21:25.040 It's not persuasive debate tactics.

00:21:28.000 We know that.

00:21:28.860 That's not the case.

00:21:30.020 It is the weaponization of your empathy for the purpose of carrying out their causes.

00:21:37.140 And that is exactly what is behind all of the chaos that centers on Muslim migration 1.00

00:21:43.380 and violent crime that has really, really hurt our country and has hurt our community.

00:21:49.400 So we're going to talk about some of that.

00:21:51.120 And we're going to get into an election that's happening in Tennessee that also has to do

00:21:55.160 with toxic empathy.

00:21:56.940 So I want to talk about this horrific story of the National Guard soldiers.

00:22:01.940 What does this have to do with toxic empathy?

00:22:04.000 We'll get into that.

00:22:04.940 But first, let me tell you what happened.

00:22:07.160 Two West Virginia National Guard soldiers that were deployed to Washington, D.C.

00:22:11.100 in Trump's crackdown on crime were shot by an Afghan national on Wednesday, November 26.

00:22:16.680 So right before Thanksgiving.

00:22:18.180 This was 20-year-old Sarah Bergstrom, who died the following day.

00:22:23.200 Just so awful.

00:22:24.120 Her dad posted about this, just missing his little girl.

00:22:27.540 Absolutely devastating.

00:22:29.380 And 24-year-old Andrew Wolfe, who was in critical condition and fighting for his life.

00:22:34.180 So everyone, please pray for Andrew Wolfe.

00:22:36.940 We've put his picture up there.

00:22:39.160 That is according to West Virginia Representative Riley Moore, that he is still in critical condition.

00:22:44.320 So please pray for him.

00:22:46.080 Pray for Sarah's family.

00:22:47.580 Pray for his family.

00:22:48.780 According to a law enforcement source, the suspect allegedly shouted Allahu Akbar before firing at the victims.

00:22:57.880 This is according to journalist Julio Rosas.

00:23:01.720 The suspect was injured when other National Guard soldiers returned fire.

00:23:06.360 He was immediately taken into custody and transported to a hospital.

00:23:10.700 Yeah, there's this picture of him.

00:23:11.920 He's like almost naked on the stretcher.

00:23:14.660 Just so, ugh, the whole thing just so awful.

00:23:18.220 We don't know about his medical condition.

00:23:20.700 Honestly, I hope he lives for a couple reasons.

00:23:22.940 I want him to repent and to know Jesus because eternity is a really long time to spend in hell.

00:23:28.780 And I also want justice to be carried out.

00:23:33.080 Like death, like in this way, in a comfortable hospital bed would be a mercy.

00:23:40.460 And of course, the state needs to pursue the death penalty.

00:23:43.320 And that should be carried out very quickly.

00:23:45.360 That's how we used to do things.

00:23:47.660 We used to execute proven murders very quickly.

00:23:51.840 That is actually mercy.

00:23:54.040 And that is actually justice.

00:23:56.320 The only reason that the death penalty, quote unquote, doesn't work in deterring crime,

00:24:01.340 which I don't even know necessarily if that's true, is because we don't do it quickly enough.

00:24:06.400 We do it way too arbitrarily.

00:24:08.080 There is no confidence that any killer has that they are going to be executed.

00:24:12.140 They're probably going to get a climate-controlled cell with three square meals and exercise and hobbies for the next 50 years.

00:24:20.540 And so it's just not worth it for them to not carry out the murder that they want to carry out.

00:24:25.820 We need to make the cost of murdering someone really high.

00:24:28.880 Duh.

00:24:29.420 I shouldn't have to be arguing for that on a podcast.

00:24:32.280 Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said the shooter may have been radicalized actually not in Afghanistan, but here in the U.S.

00:24:40.240 Here's Kristi Noem saying that.

00:24:42.460 We do believe this individual, when they came into the country, we know he was unvetted. 0.97

00:24:45.900 He was brought into the country by the Biden administration through Operation Allies Welcome and then maybe vetted after that but not done well based on what the guidelines were put forward by President Biden.

00:24:59.960 And now since he's been here, we believe he could have been radicalized in his home community and in his home state.

00:25:05.900 So as we continue to talk to his family and his contacts, more details will be revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate.

00:25:13.640 But this is something that for these individuals, when they're brought into our country, it's a dangerous situation.

00:25:19.420 If you don't know who they are, if they're coming from a country that's not stable and doesn't have a government that can help you vet them, that we shouldn't allow it. 1.00

00:25:26.540 So let's talk about why the shooter is here in the first place.

00:25:31.580 How did this person, who is not a citizen, who is from Afghanistan, a military-aged male who obviously has very extremist beliefs and violent tendencies, why is he here in our nation's capital?

00:25:44.680 Well, we got to go back all the way to 2021 when Joe Biden was president to understand that.

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00:27:07.240 It's hard to pinpoint the worst point in Joe Biden's – I almost said pregnancy.

00:27:17.800 That would be something.

00:27:19.140 That would be something.

00:27:20.840 I guess in their world, anything can happen.

00:27:24.580 Presidency.

00:27:26.200 But it was probably the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:27:30.780 Arguably it was.

00:27:31.780 After American forces withdrew in 2021, the Taliban took over Afghanistan's capital city, Kabul, on August 15th of that year, effectively winning the war in Afghanistan.

00:27:46.120 After facing intense criticism for the deaths of 13 U.S. service members during the withdrawal, President Biden immediately blamed the collapse on Donald Trump and Donald Trump's foreign policy.

00:27:58.400 Of course, Trump was not president at that time.

00:28:00.880 Even $7 billion of military equipment the U.S. gave to the Afghan government was left behind and ended up in the hands of the Taliban, which, of course, could very easily be used against us and our allies.

00:28:14.260 Biden ordered the Department of Homeland Security to bring in vulnerable Afghans who worked with various U.S. government entities, including the CIA.

00:28:21.400 So this suspect apparently had worked with the CIA in Afghanistan, and that's how he was able to come over here in this program that's called Operation Allies Welcome.

00:28:32.940 It granted Afghans two-year humanitarian parole with no permanent immigration status.

00:28:38.540 Now, you might be wondering, OK, but it's 2023 or it would have been 2023 when that expired.

00:28:44.340 So why in 2025 is this person still still here?

00:28:49.400 Well, after roughly one year, O.A.W., that is the Operation Allies Welcome, transitioned into the longer term operation Enduring Welcome.

00:28:59.700 Combined, the two programs resettled almost 200,000 Afghans in the U.S.

00:29:06.440 Now, hopefully all of these people from Afghanistan were well vetted, right? 1.00

00:29:12.980 Probably not.

00:29:14.540 A 2024 DHS Inspector General report confirmed data inaccuracies in some evacuee files.

00:29:21.500 Every person who came in under this program is supposed to have something called an A number or an alien number.

00:29:27.000 But this report found at least one occasion of two different individuals sharing the same A number or there were multiple alien numbers assigned to one individual.

00:29:39.420 Another example that was highlighted, ICE Records had two different spellings for an O.A.W. parolee's name with a different A number assigned to each spelling.

00:29:49.060 We have no idea how often that happened.

00:29:51.300 There was simply just no way to track these people or to even know their background, because to do a background check, you have to at least somewhat rely on Afghanistan and their officials to tell us the truth about these people.

00:30:05.340 Can we rely on our enemies?

00:30:07.300 No.

00:30:07.680 A June 2025 DOJ report stated the need to immediately evacuate Afghans overtook the normal processes required to determine whether individuals attempting to enter the United States pose a threat to national security, which increased the risk that bad actors could try to exploit the expedited evacuation.

00:30:25.820 And of course, that is always what we are weighing.

00:30:28.020 I understand the argument that, look, these people helped us over there, so we should try to prioritize getting them to safety.

00:30:35.780 Okay, that may be a priority, but it's got to be weighed against the safety and security of the people that you actually are tasked to govern, whose interest and well-being should come first.

00:30:47.800 That is the righteous responsibility of any government to put the well-being, the security, and the interests of its own people first.

00:30:55.580 Well, in this case, they decided that these people that we are not actually tasked to govern are more important.

00:31:01.660 Their security is more important than the security of American citizens.

00:31:04.900 We see that tradeoff happening over and over again, especially when a Democrat is in office.

00:31:10.740 The same report that we were just talking about revealed that 55 OAW evacuees were later identified on U.S. terrorism watch lists.

00:31:18.940 It's exciting.

00:31:20.340 That's great.

00:31:21.500 So this particular suspect had been living in Washington, had no prior criminal, Washington state, had no prior criminal record.

00:31:30.160 The suspect's government file claimed he underwent biometric and biographic screening, apparently didn't have any disqualifying information in his background.

00:31:40.000 Now, it is important because you're going to see people say this.

00:31:45.760 He applied for asylum in December 2024 and was granted it on April 23rd, 2025.

00:31:52.560 Okay, so this is three months into the Trump administration.

00:31:56.720 So the Trump administration has got to figure out how exactly this happened, why this person was granted asylum.

00:32:02.940 Now, if it's true that he didn't have anything in his background and he was trying to go through legal means,

00:32:08.480 that's not necessarily nefarious that he was granted asylum.

00:32:12.260 People do have the legal ability to do that, and that's fine.

00:32:17.020 But it is important to note that part of this happened under the Trump administration.

00:32:22.640 Leaked emails even show that refugee agencies and state services were actually warned that the suspect had been spiraling into mania since March of 2023.

00:32:32.740 But no effective action, no effective action was taken before the attack.

00:32:41.220 This is according to the New York Post.

00:32:43.380 Now, why did the people in the Trump administration or the people who are responsible for this,

00:32:48.780 they may not have been hired by Trump at all of granting him asylum.

00:32:52.740 Like, why did they not know that a neighbor had repeatedly contacted the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, USCRI,

00:33:01.500 claiming that the suspect had become not functional as a person, a father or provider,

00:33:05.440 that he had been abandoning his family, that his children were seemingly abandoned,

00:33:10.360 that he would take the car and just abandon everyone for days and weeks on end.

00:33:15.560 And these organizations who were supposed to be kind of like vetting and tracking these refugees, 0.51

00:33:22.480 they didn't do their job.

00:33:23.800 They did nothing.

00:33:24.560 So as almost always, there were signs.

00:33:28.700 There were signs.

00:33:29.520 And the people who were responsible for noting these signs and taking them to the right people,

00:33:35.400 they didn't do their job.

00:33:37.380 Now, was it incompetence?

00:33:39.300 Was it malice?

00:33:40.660 Was it political ideology?

00:33:42.080 Was it toxic empathy that organizations like this just ignore the danger that some migrants 0.90

00:33:49.280 and some refugees bring to the country?

00:33:52.520 It's probably a combination.

00:33:55.640 It's really easy to just believe kind of the emotional rhetoric that, well, we're helping refugees.

00:34:02.820 We're helping people who are in harm's way.

00:34:05.240 We're helping allies.

00:34:07.060 Everyone wants that.

00:34:08.360 I want that.

00:34:09.700 And I think it's OK, of course.

00:34:11.940 It's good to have that kind of compassion, but we have to be more thoughtful than that.

00:34:16.360 Every policy, every decision that is made by people in power is a tradeoff.

00:34:22.020 Every single one, whether it's COVID policy or anything else, you're asking, what are the benefits?

00:34:27.640 What are the risks?

00:34:28.840 Who is this harming?

00:34:30.040 Who is this helping?

00:34:31.360 What outweighs what?

00:34:33.640 And when it comes to this, the risks outweighed the benefits for the American people.

00:34:39.400 So here are some other crimes committed by resettling Afghans. 1.00

00:34:43.240 Two Afghan nationals were charged with plotting an ISIS-inspired attack to disrupt the 2024 election in Oklahoma City.

00:34:49.920 Another Afghan evacuee was arrested in Texas for posting a TikTok video featuring bomb instructions that happened very recently.

00:34:58.100 He said he was going to blow up a building in Fort Worth.

00:35:00.020 There was an attempted sexual act with a minor, assaulted multiple minors at base, charged federally to eight years in prison, according to the DOJ.

00:35:08.560 There was also, according to The Washington Times, a rape of an 18-year-old woman in a Montana hotel by an Afghan national.

00:35:15.080 Well, domestic assaults threatened to send his wife back to the Taliban, multiple domestic violence and child assault cases at bases, some charges reduced to misdemeanors, according to Fox News.

00:35:31.220 And I know people are going to say, well, you know, this is not just this group.

00:35:35.340 You're just demonizing this group because they don't look like you or whatever that, you know, American citizens and white people and they commit crimes. 0.69

00:35:43.060 Of course, people of all nationalities, citizenship statuses and skin colors commit crimes. 1.00

00:35:50.040 That's not the point.

00:35:51.900 The point is that these people aren't supposed to be here.

00:35:54.180 And we do already have homegrown criminals.

00:35:57.720 Why would we add to our criminal statistics by bringing people in who should not be here? 0.99

00:36:04.020 Let's deal with the crimes that are committed by citizens.

00:36:06.620 We have a method to dealing with those crimes, but crimes who are committed by people who should not be here in the first place.

00:36:13.620 That is absolutely preventable.

00:36:16.100 Those are preventable assault cases, preventable murder, preventable child rapes.

00:36:20.780 And we are allowing them in the name of just, oh, it's empathetic and kind.

00:36:25.500 Empathetic to whom? 0.97

00:36:26.480 To the military aged men that are coming in here and raping children and murdering National Guards men and women?

00:36:34.240 It's certainly not empathetic to the victims.

00:36:36.520 As the problem with empathy is that it has the ability to blind you to both reality and morality.

00:36:43.320 It has you focus so much on one side of the moral equation that you ignore the other one.

00:36:47.300 You have so much empathy for the person born in the wrong body that you ignore the rights and the privacy of girls and women.

00:36:53.420 You have so much empathy for the plight of the pregnant mother that you forget that abortion butchers the child inside the womb. 0.99

00:36:59.080 You have so much empathy for this illegal migrant coming from violence in Honduras that you have no empathy and no thought about Kate Steinle or Molly Tibbetts or all of the victims of these preventable crimes committed by illegal aliens or people who should have never been allowed in legally in the first place. 0.99

00:37:19.220 That's the problem.

00:37:21.120 But if you think through this truth and love dichotomy, then you're thinking, what is factually true?

00:37:28.420 What is scientifically true?

00:37:29.980 What is historically true?

00:37:31.820 What are the trade-offs?

00:37:33.780 What is biblically true most importantly?

00:37:36.420 And how can I love this individual while still upholding what is true and what is right for my country, for my community, and for my family?

00:37:46.300 It's possible to do that.

00:37:47.420 Empathy is actually the easy way out because you don't have to deal with the consequences of toxic empathy if you're rich enough.

00:37:54.540 And that's exactly why, of course, most Afghan nationals were resettled to Houston, San Diego, Sacramento, San Antonio, and Denver, and not to D.C., where all of these politicians who decided this live.

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00:39:19.780 White House boarder czar Tom Homan predicted on Sunday, yesterday, that most third-world migrants will be deported because there's no way to properly vet them.

00:39:35.940 Here's what he said.

00:39:36.640 It's not one.

00:39:37.520 There's no way to clearly vet these people, you know, 100% that they're safe to come to this country from these third-world nations. 1.00

00:39:44.840 President Trump's doing the right thing, reviewing every one of these people who came under the Biden administration.

00:39:49.780 And drilling down on them.

00:39:51.320 I really, truly think that most of them are going to end up being deported because we're not going to be able to properly vet them.

00:39:58.120 Okay.

00:39:58.720 Well, let's get to it.

00:40:00.280 Let's get to it.

00:40:01.640 Like, let's go ahead and get it done.

00:40:03.780 Like, I know you see a lot of people and a lot of your friends who are totally incensed about this and they believe all of the lies that citizens are being rounded up because they look brown or being deported to Mexico.

00:40:16.760 That is not something that is happening.

00:40:19.500 That's not something that's happening.

00:40:20.920 And Obama deported more people than Trump has.

00:40:25.700 And Biden also deported over a million people.

00:40:28.920 Did you hear about ice raids under Biden?

00:40:31.220 Did you hear about ice raids under Obama?

00:40:34.660 Did you hear about kids in cages under any of these administration administrations, even though that was happening?

00:40:42.060 If you want to call these detention centers cages, like, did you hear about all of the lost children who were abandoned and not accounted for under these administrations?

00:40:52.000 Did you hear about the sex trafficking, the human trafficking, the drug and weaponry trafficking that was happening under these administrations?

00:41:00.580 No, it's not because it wasn't happening.

00:41:02.700 It's because the media is in bed with the Democrats and they don't want you to see the Democrats doing things that they are criticizing Donald Trump for.

00:41:11.360 Like, you see that, right?

00:41:12.440 That's, again, how the weaponization of empathy works.

00:41:16.080 There's a reason why you read a story about abortion. 0.90

00:41:18.040 You only get the perspective of the mother.

00:41:20.320 Not that the mother doesn't matter, but, again, her comfort and her desire to have an abortion has to be weighed against the life and the rights of that child who is about to be murdered.

00:41:30.700 But they only want you to see one perspective, one way.

00:41:34.160 So you have to be more thoughtful than that.

00:41:36.000 God gave you a brain.

00:41:37.300 God gave you a mind to think.

00:41:39.260 Now, like, here to me is what this looks like as a Christian.

00:41:43.780 Some of my favorite people in the world are immigrants from what are considered third world countries.

00:41:49.380 They are immigrants from Africa.

00:41:50.980 They are hardworking people who have rejected DEI, who have rejected the welfare state, who have rejected every single opportunity to join this, like, complaint-driven coalition who is constantly seeing the system is out to get them.

00:42:10.000 And they have raised three kids.

00:42:12.000 They became citizens in 2020, raised three beautiful, responsible, hardworking children.

00:42:20.380 They are hardworking themselves.

00:42:22.480 Anyone would be incredibly blessed to be these people's neighbors and their fellow church members.

00:42:29.580 They are incredible people.

00:42:30.980 Like, I would rather live next to them than some Portland Antifa lib or even some toxic empathy, like, liberal wine mom from Buckhead any day of the week. 0.95

00:42:47.520 Okay?

00:42:48.760 We can acknowledge that.

00:42:51.020 We can acknowledge that we shouldn't paint a broad brush, that we shouldn't generalize, that we shouldn't say everyone from one country is like this or all immigrants or all refugees.

00:43:00.320 Like, we shouldn't do that.

00:43:02.100 Like, we should love people and see people as individuals while also saying, but in principle and statistically and in general, it is better for the well-being and security of our country if all refugees and all asylum seekers and all migrants are extremely well-vetted. 0.96

00:43:24.400 And that it makes sense, at least for a period of time, to say, you know, some immigrants from some places are just not getting in.

00:43:32.480 We don't have the capacity to vet them right now.

00:43:35.540 And because we care about the safety and security of our Americans, of the people that we're governing, then we just can't let them in. 0.70

00:43:43.980 And that is why Donald Trump, he said that he would halt all immigration processing for Afghan nationals pending a thorough review of security and vetting protocols.

00:43:55.460 He said, we must now re-examine every single alien who has entered our country from Afghanistan under Biden.

00:44:00.300 We must take all necessary measures to ensure the removal of any alien from any country who does not belong here or add benefit to our country. 1.00

00:44:07.320 Again, I say yes and amen, like, let's go.

00:44:11.640 And in principle, on a micro level, everyone agrees with this.

00:44:15.180 There's a reason why you live inside your home.

00:44:18.020 There is a reason why you don't sleep on your front sidewalk.

00:44:21.680 There's a reason why you don't leave your door open.

00:44:24.020 There's a reason why you don't let strangers come into your home and eat all of your food and sleep in your children's bed. 0.98

00:44:30.680 That doesn't make you a good neighbor.

00:44:32.040 That makes you a bad parent.

00:44:33.360 And countries are like families, just on a bigger scale.

00:44:38.520 You put the safety and security of your people first, not because you hate people from other countries, but because you love people in your country.

00:44:45.340 It is not possible for us to equally prioritize all of the interests of everyone in the world and all of their safety and security.

00:44:52.840 It's not possible.

00:44:53.960 So Americans come first. 0.99

00:44:55.360 That is their righteous responsibility.

00:44:57.020 I believe we see that principle in Romans 13, that governments were instituted by God to punish the wrongdoer and reward the good.

00:45:04.680 You take care of your people.

00:45:05.760 Nations were God's idea. 0.96

00:45:07.420 Borders were God's idea. 0.99

00:45:09.500 Government, laws, all God's idea.

00:45:12.920 And they are good.

00:45:14.020 Also, Trump is talking about remigration.

00:45:20.100 And so people who are here remigrating them back to their home countries, of course, not American citizens.

00:45:27.960 But he points out how this really this is on Thanksgiving Day.

00:45:33.180 This is a very long post by Trump.

00:45:35.580 And I'm trying to decide, like, I can't read the whole thing.

00:45:39.520 So he kind of weaves together a couple of things that are happening here.

00:45:43.580 He says, OK, I'm just going to I'm just going to read it and we'll see how far I get.

00:45:47.420 He says a very happy Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and patriots who have been so nice in allowing our country to be of divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged and laughed at toxic empathy, 0.99

00:46:01.340 along with certain other foolish countries throughout the world for being politically correct and just plain stupid when it comes to immigration. 0.99

00:46:11.060 The official United States foreign population stands at 53 million people, most of which are on welfare from failed nations or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs or drug cartels. 0.99

00:46:21.760 I mean, does that sound like a good process for Americans?

00:46:24.040 No, they and their children are supported through massive payments from patriotic American citizens who, because of their beautiful hearts, do not want to openly complain or cause trouble in any way, shape or form.

00:46:35.520 They put up with what has happened to our country, but it's eating them alive to do so.

00:46:40.520 A migrant earning $30,000 with a green card will get roughly $50,000 in yearly benefits for their family.

00:46:46.840 The real migrant population is much higher.

00:46:49.320 This refugee burden is the leading cause of social dysfunction in America, something that did not exist after World War II. 1.00

00:46:57.040 As an example, hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia are completely taking over the once great state of Minnesota. 1.00

00:47:03.840 Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for prey as our wonderful people stay locked in their apartments and houses, hosting... 1.00

00:47:10.520 Hoping against hope that they will be left alone.

00:47:14.760 Okay.

00:47:16.640 So then he uses, which I know my, like the world, it has mixed feelings about the R word.

00:47:24.000 And I will not say it, but he does call, he's calls governor of Minnesota Tim Walls mentally incompetent, which, okay, you can quibble about the use of the word.

00:47:35.560 Like, let's focus on the main point.

00:47:37.520 He said that Tim Walls does nothing, either through fear, incompetence, or both, while the worst congresswoman in our country, Ilhan Omar, always wrapped in her swaddling hijab, and who probably came into the USA illegally, and that you are not allowed to marry your brother, does nothing but hatefully complain about our country and how badly she is treated. 0.98

00:47:59.940 Okay, so that is all true.

00:48:03.000 Sleepy Joe Biden.

00:48:04.740 He said, only reverse migration can fully cure this situation.

00:48:08.480 Other than that, happy Thanksgiving.

00:48:10.360 Other than that.

00:48:12.380 Other than that.

00:48:13.980 Happy Thanksgiving to all, except those that hate, steal, murder, and destroy everything that America stands for. 0.99

00:48:19.360 You won't be here for long.

00:48:21.320 Okay, I love it.

00:48:22.420 Let's go.

00:48:23.360 Let's go.

00:48:24.000 I don't, people, again, who agree with Donald Trump in my DMs, why does he have to post this on Thanksgiving?

00:48:29.880 Why does he have to say this?

00:48:31.120 Why does he have to say it like this?

00:48:32.300 I'm over caring about that.

00:48:34.260 I just don't care.

00:48:35.600 Like, this is just such a bigger issue.

00:48:38.660 Okay?

00:48:39.200 This is a much bigger issue, because what is happening in Minnesota is absolutely awful.

00:48:44.840 And it does go to show, again, that our empathy that is extracting our tax dollars from us to support not only migration, but to support these good causes and these programs, that it's actually working against us.

00:49:06.100 That our empathy is allowing us to be stolen from and for children to be stolen from.

00:49:12.340 And that's really bad.

00:49:13.100 So, let's take a brief look at what's happening in Minnesota, and then we'll close out by talking about what's going on in Tennessee.

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00:50:37.360 My Blaze colleague, Chris Ruffo, has done a lot of great work when it comes to the corruption in the state of Minnesota through Somali nonprofits. 1.00

00:50:51.720 So this is according to Blaze Media and City Journal.

00:50:54.220 A City Journal investigation exposed multiple massive fraud schemes in Minnesota's welfare programs,

00:51:00.060 almost all perpetrated by members of the state's Somali community collectively stealing billions in taxpayer dollars. 1.00

00:51:06.720 Okay, just think about all of the people who are working so hard to pay their mortgage and to pay for their kids' school.

00:51:15.240 Think about that family who has made the sacrifice to live on one income so the mom can homeschool their kids.

00:51:21.600 The dad is working late.

00:51:23.080 He's working hard.

00:51:24.520 He's paying the government because he doesn't want to go to jail.

00:51:27.640 How is that money being used?

00:51:29.100 Is it being used to fix the pothole and his road?

00:51:32.000 Is it being used to make sure that the education system for his neighbor's kids is performing well?

00:51:38.160 No, no, no.

00:51:38.760 It's being stolen from him and it is being funneled through these groups for the enrichment of these groups who hate America,

00:51:51.720 who hate the Constitution, and who seek dominance.

00:51:54.640 That is just true.

00:51:55.680 That's not an exaggeration.

00:51:56.880 So, for example, the Housing and Stabilization Services Program meant to cost $2.6 million per year exploded to $104 million annually by 2024

00:52:06.480 and $61 million in just the first half of 2025 before being shut down because the vast majority of it was fraudulent.

00:52:14.940 Federal prosecutors say that HSS providers were fictitious companies, often run from rundown storefronts,

00:52:20.740 that signed up vulnerable people for services they never intended to deliver while billing Medicaid anyway.

00:52:25.500 The $250 million Feeding Our Future scandal saw Somali-owned nonprofits claim to feed thousands of children daily

00:52:34.240 with fake rosters and invoices, then use the money for luxury cars and overseas real estate.

00:52:41.380 On September 18th, 2025, the 56th defendant pleaded guilty.

00:52:45.880 So, you see, like if you were, say you were a Republican who had been running in Minnesota and you had run on,

00:52:52.580 hey, we got to cut, we got to, we got to cut spending and we have to cut the taxpayer dollars that we are giving to feeding our future.

00:52:59.720 What would the liberal media have said? 0.83

00:53:01.620 Oh, you're evil. 0.94

00:53:03.560 How dare you doge this? 0.99

00:53:05.240 You don't want to feed innocent children.

00:53:07.080 You want these innocent children to starve.

00:53:08.700 And they would have found one kid on the streets of Minneapolis who didn't have food that day.

00:53:14.960 And they would have said it's because of this Republican politician who wants to cut money from Feeding Our Future. 1.00

00:53:19.860 You saw the same thing with Doge when we cut funding to USAID.

00:53:23.680 Well, USAID, as you heard my guest, who is a missionary to Nigeria, say just the other day,

00:53:30.000 they're doing jack squat in most of these places that they say that they're doing something for.

00:53:34.480 So when people say we got to cut this stuff because we have to protect the American taxpayer,

00:53:40.180 what does the media do?

00:53:41.100 And it works so well, even sometimes on this audience, they say, well, you don't have empathy.

00:53:46.540 You don't love your neighbor because look at what these dollars are intended to do.

00:53:50.540 Never ask, what is the dollar intended to do?

00:53:52.820 Ask, what does the dollar do?

00:53:54.780 Like, what is the outcome of this program?

00:53:57.320 Not what is the stated intention?

00:53:59.340 A separate $14 million autism services fraud ring paid Somali parents cash kickbacks of $300

00:54:06.040 to $1,500 per month per child to enroll kids, many without actual autism diagnoses and lucrative

00:54:13.540 therapy programs driving statewide autism claims from $3 million into 2018 to $399 million in 2023.

00:54:23.620 What are we doing?

00:54:25.700 What are we doing?

00:54:26.780 I mean, if this is happening in Minnesota, and this is actually being uncovered in Minnesota,

00:54:31.640 which is pretty incredible, like what's happening in California?

00:54:34.360 What's happening in Illinois?

00:54:35.580 What's happening in New York?

00:54:37.300 What is happening in Houston?

00:54:39.740 These Democrat-run places where there are these large Somalian Islamic groups who,

00:54:45.300 I mean, you kind of give them credit.

00:54:46.780 They look out for themselves.

00:54:48.400 They're going to put themselves first.

00:54:50.140 They're looking out for Somalia.

00:54:51.620 They're looking out for Afghanistan.

00:54:53.100 They're looking out for Islam. 0.99

00:54:54.320 They're looking out for their people, and they're going to get theirs.

00:54:58.220 And, you know, a lot of people see this as reparations for colonialism.

00:55:03.160 That's how crazy it is.

00:55:04.540 I mean, that's how much truly like America hates itself.

00:55:08.140 And it's sad.

00:55:09.500 And I don't stand for it because I don't hate this country.

00:55:11.860 I love this country.

00:55:12.580 And I want it to be a good country for my kids and grandkids.

00:55:14.920 U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson described the scandals as schemes stacked upon schemes.

00:55:20.500 It takes his breath away.

00:55:21.620 At least 28 major fraud scandals have erupted in Minnesota since Governor Tim Walz took office in 2019.

00:55:27.000 And if he ran right now, every Democrat in the state of Minnesota would vote for him.

00:55:31.600 I mean, we already had someone in the state of Virginia win after texts were leaked that said that he wanted to kill his opponent's children.

00:55:38.940 So I don't think that fraud is like the moral limit that the current Democrat Party has.

00:55:45.640 Billions in stolen welfare have been sent as remittances from Minnesota to Somalia.

00:55:50.860 Somalia first. 0.89

00:55:52.460 Somalia first. 0.89

00:55:53.160 See, it's crazy how other countries are allowed to put their country first.

00:55:57.640 And that's totally fine.

00:55:58.640 But when America does it or when Britain does it or when Italy does it, it's bigotry and it's wrong.

00:56:04.620 But the important thing is, is that people, not that people see this fraud, not that people are worried about their hardened dollars, not that people are worried about corruption.

00:56:13.220 The important thing is, is that we're not mean to the people who are committing this fraud.

00:56:18.620 So, too.

00:56:19.920 Do you take responsibility for failing to stop this fraud in your state?

00:56:26.080 Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail.

00:56:29.480 Governors don't get to just talk theoretically.

00:56:32.160 We have to solve problems.

00:56:33.480 And I will note, it's not just Somalis.

00:56:36.160 Minnesota is a generous state.

00:56:37.760 Minnesota is a prosperous state.

00:56:39.100 A well-run state.

00:56:40.220 We're AAA bond rated.

00:56:41.640 But that attracts criminals.

00:56:43.120 Those people are going to jail.

00:56:44.600 We're doing everything we can.

00:56:46.160 But to demonize an entire community on the actions of a few, it's lazy.

00:56:51.280 It's not a few.

00:56:52.980 It's not a few.

00:56:54.500 He emphasized later that it's also just important that we have diversity.

00:56:58.960 Diversity is not a strength in and of itself.

00:57:01.780 It actually is much closer to a detriment than it is a strength.

00:57:05.220 It can be a strength.

00:57:06.260 If you are unified by something much deeper than skin color and nationality, if you're unified by a creed, if you're unified by the gospel, then having different perspectives and different backgrounds can actually be a benefit.

00:57:18.200 But if you only have diversity, if that's the only commonality that you have, then no.

00:57:23.480 That leads to afraid social contract. 0.98

00:57:26.240 That leads to chaos.

00:57:28.340 There's no cohesion there.

00:57:29.760 You don't trust your neighbor.

00:57:31.160 That's how the world has functioned for all of time.

00:57:35.300 We're not different or new or better than people throughout history.

00:57:39.940 You have to have something very real in common.

00:57:43.620 And if it's not going to be culture, like if it's not going to be patriotism in your nationality, it's got to be something deeper like religion.

00:57:52.760 When you have nothing, then it just doesn't work.

00:57:57.420 And before we close out that section, I just want to remind you of the book of Nehemiah.

00:58:02.720 The book of Nehemiah is so good at explaining the wisdom, the prudence of borders and protecting the city that you love.

00:58:11.720 Nehemiah 2, 17 through 20.

00:58:13.280 Then I said to them, you see the trouble we are in, how Jerusalem lies in ruins with its gates burned.

00:58:17.940 Come, let us build the wall of Jerusalem that we may no longer suffer derision.

00:58:22.600 So when you don't have a border, when you don't have a protection, people deride you.

00:58:28.620 They take advantage of you.

00:58:29.520 And I told them of the hand of my God that had been upon me for good and also of the words that the king had spoken to me.

00:58:35.420 And they said, let us rise up and build.

00:58:37.300 So they strengthened their hands for the good work.

00:58:39.800 But the Sanbalat, the Horonite, and Tobiah, the Ammonite servant, and Geshem, the Arab, heard it. 0.97

00:58:45.880 They jeered at us and despised us and said, what is this thing you are doing?

00:58:49.080 Are you rebelling against the king?

00:58:50.240 Then I replied to them, the God of heaven will make us prosper.

00:58:52.600 And we, his servants, will rise and build.

00:58:54.820 But you have no portion or claim in Jerusalem.

00:58:59.020 And you should really read the entire book.

00:59:01.120 It's very short, but it shows how God actually uses borders to protect his people.

00:59:09.620 How it's just wise.

00:59:11.100 It's good governance.

00:59:12.700 And when you don't have that, then you are like a man without self-control.

00:59:17.540 That's what the book of Proverbs tells us.

00:59:19.360 We are vulnerable to all kinds of dangers.

00:59:21.860 All right.

00:59:23.240 I just want to give one example of this toxic empathy that has been recirculating on X that

00:59:29.780 is so important for us to understand what is behind all of this, the money that's behind

00:59:35.660 all of this, the power that's behind these kinds of programs and policies that are just

00:59:40.440 leading to so much destruction.

00:59:41.820 I saw that my interview with Nicole Shanahan that we recorded back in March, that this clip was

00:59:48.340 circulating online.

00:59:50.280 And I don't even think most people who were commenting on it knew that it was from my show.

00:59:57.080 So I don't really know what started all of this.

00:59:59.840 But she talked about to me this tech wife mafia that happens in Silicon Valley. 1.00

01:00:06.960 All of these wives of these tech entrepreneurs, very wealthy, how because of their toxic empathy. 1.00

01:00:13.020 And she cites my book in it and how it helped her like understand where this mentality is coming

01:00:19.640 from, how they are funding all these progressive causes because of that.

01:00:24.680 I think at the heart of the progressive billionaire wife mafia is a real desire to want to be

01:00:35.780 liked, to give back, and to be celebrated for doing good work.

01:00:44.940 I think that describes probably a lot of the friends that you have that are progressive.

01:00:50.340 Here she is explaining this a little more, South 6.

01:00:52.520 I don't think that the wives necessarily are bad people, but I think that their worlds are so 0.97

01:00:59.860 small and they actually have no idea how small those worlds are until you, because they can't

01:01:05.720 break free of it.

01:01:07.400 And they feel this need to contribute to these causes that are within that very small sphere

01:01:15.640 of influence.

01:01:16.480 And that's their only, that's their only like litmus test of like, am I a valuable or am

01:01:26.020 I not valuable?

01:01:28.420 And she's absolutely right.

01:01:29.960 And you can look all of this up, but Melinda French Gates, $1 billion pledged for women's

01:01:35.560 rights that includes access to abortion.

01:01:38.000 McKenzie Scott, lots of donations to Planned Parenthood and to other abortion organizations.

01:01:47.080 Lauren Powell Jobs, $400 million to mass migration causes also McKenzie Scott doing the same thing.

01:01:55.040 These causes represent 80% of collective giving from these donors per reports from last year.

01:02:04.040 And so like all of this, this, it's really not the guys in Silicon Valley, I think that

01:02:12.080 are driving a lot of these progressive causes.

01:02:14.340 I think it's the women that they're either married to or got a lot of money in a divorce

01:02:19.680 supporting these progressive causes.

01:02:21.940 And Nicole Shanahan also talks about, because she was married to the co-founder of Google,

01:02:26.520 how when she was progressive, like she did this too.

01:02:29.520 And she truly believed that these like social justice, justice reformed programs and organizations

01:02:38.100 that she was donating to, that they were doing good.

01:02:42.280 But of course you realize that they're advocating for soft on crime policies that end up destroying

01:02:47.280 people's lives.

01:02:48.680 So toxic empathy is something that happens at the very top.

01:02:52.520 Um, it is something that can destroy people's lives, their families, communities, our entire

01:02:59.800 country.

01:03:00.620 I think the people at the very top don't actually feel this like sense of empathy.

01:03:06.180 I think that there are actually some just really bad, deceitful actors, um, who want to

01:03:13.980 exploit Americans' goodwill for these bad causes.

01:03:18.480 I think of people like George Soros and things like that.

01:03:21.440 Like, I don't think he actually feels empathy for the migrant or the black person or the

01:03:26.400 poor person at all. 0.83

01:03:27.460 I think he's just like, he just hates America.

01:03:29.680 I think there are people that just hate America and they know that progressive policies ruin

01:03:34.560 America.

01:03:35.100 They just do.

01:03:35.860 Like, how do you, it's hard for me to see how someone doesn't see that at this point,

01:03:39.320 when you see the trajectory of a place like San Francisco or Austin or Denver or Philadelphia

01:03:45.860 or New York City, the more progressive they get, the dirtier and the less safe and the

01:03:50.700 worse they get and the poorer they get.

01:03:53.380 Like, it's just so obvious that progressive programs don't work.

01:03:57.640 They don't help people.

01:03:58.720 They hurt.

01:03:59.820 So like, even if you would say, okay, well, at least they're doing XYZ, feeding the hungry.

01:04:05.920 No, they're not.

01:04:06.660 If you want to make sure that the hungry are fed, then you go do it.

01:04:09.740 Don't outsource your compassion to the government.

01:04:11.560 That's important.

01:04:13.620 And it's especially important if you live in Tennessee, if you live around Nashville,

01:04:18.880 there's a special election coming up tomorrow, December 2nd, a Democrat, Afton Ben, is that

01:04:25.060 how you pronounce her name?

01:04:26.560 She's an activist turned Tennessee state representative, and she is against Republican Matt Van Epps,

01:04:32.860 a combat veteran, a member of the Tennessee Army National Guard, endorsed by Trump.

01:04:37.220 Uh, this is, they are vying for the seventh district seat left vacant by former GOP representative

01:04:42.280 Mark Green, who resigned earlier this year.

01:04:45.400 A lot of people feel confident Trump won the deep red district by 22 points in 2024, but

01:04:51.720 this covers part of Nashville and Nashville is people who live there.

01:04:56.820 No, has become a lot more progressive, you know, like so many other states like Georgia or

01:05:04.260 like Texas, it is very largely conservative.

01:05:08.000 But then when you get into places like Knoxville or Nashville, where universities are, where it's

01:05:13.580 just a little bit more urban, you have a lot of Democrats.

01:05:16.820 Plus, you have a lot of migration to Tennessee from people who are fed up by California's policies

01:05:22.760 or the policies of another Democrat state.

01:05:25.120 They want to enjoy the freedom that they get in a conservative state while continuing to vote

01:05:29.720 Democrat for social reasons.

01:05:32.140 They don't make the connection.

01:05:33.640 I think that's the definition of insanity.

01:05:35.820 So it is possible that she wins.

01:05:39.240 So that's why I want to talk about this, because if you live in Tennessee, and I know a lot of

01:05:43.020 you do, don't forget to vote.

01:05:45.720 You can early vote if you're listening to this and the polls are still open today.

01:05:50.100 I think early voting may have closed, so I might have given you bad information, but

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01:05:55.840 You need to do that.

01:05:56.880 You need to make a plan to vote.

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01:06:11.700 Text your friends.

01:06:12.620 Make sure that they're voting.

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01:07:33.960 In 2019, Afton Ben was dragged out of Governor Bill Lee's office for attempting a sit-in.

01:07:44.080 So here she is.

01:07:45.620 Oh, this is just a voiceover.

01:07:47.060 Oh, this is, got it.

01:07:48.700 Okay.

01:07:48.940 So here she is.

01:07:50.540 She's trying to break an enter into the governor. 1.00

01:07:55.900 Okay.

01:07:56.720 The governor's office.

01:07:58.320 Now the left is going to see this as heroic.

01:08:01.560 I don't have the context for why she is doing this or why she thought this was important.

01:08:07.420 We'll put up a picture of Afton so you can see what she looks like.

01:08:11.500 But something that's super disturbing for me is that she actually hates the place that she is going to represent.

01:08:21.620 Here is Sotnang. 0.57

01:08:22.340 I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city. 0.89

01:08:29.560 I hate the bachelorettes. 1.00

01:08:30.580 I hate the pedal taverns. 0.89

01:08:31.840 I hate country music.

01:08:32.940 I hate all of the things that make Nashville, apparently.

01:08:36.100 And it's city to the rest of the country. 0.90

01:08:38.080 But I hate it.

01:08:39.120 Yeah.

01:08:39.340 I'm that girl at the airport that all these bachelorettes are giddy walking out in their two-toned colored pantone pink shirts. 1.00

01:08:45.940 And they walk out, and I'm like, oh, my God, Nashville is so loud.

01:08:51.460 Okay.

01:08:51.980 So she hates the city that she is trying to represent.

01:08:55.860 She also said this about birthers on her podcast in 2020.

01:09:01.920 She said, I think as an organizer and as an activist, we really have an opportunity here in this country to talk about what type of progressive policies we want to see as young women.

01:09:09.980 And I think we have as birthers, as women who can give birth, men and women who can give birth.

01:09:17.140 What?

01:09:18.160 Oh, my gosh.

01:09:19.320 Okay.

01:09:19.740 She also called this podcast the plurality of pro-life.

01:09:25.200 So I guess she believes that it's pro-life to say that men and women can give birth. 0.98

01:09:31.020 I'm sorry, but if you believe that, you're a crazy person and you should not have any power at all. 0.97

01:09:36.340 She also believes in having a trans bill of rights. 0.99

01:09:39.420 She says that her partner has a, quote, transgender son.

01:09:43.020 Here's thought seven.

01:09:44.120 Every legislative session, I promise to carry a trans bill of rights so that we could push back against the far right narrative that is being emanated by Matt Walsh and the Daily Wire, who have set up their home in Nashville.

01:09:55.080 And I promise to do that.

01:09:56.040 I promise to fight for our trans community.

01:09:58.560 Matt Walsh with an honorable mention there.

01:10:01.580 December of 2024, Ben sponsored the, not Ben Shapiro, since I just talked about Matt Walsh.

01:10:07.860 Ben, Afton Ben, sponsored the Reproductive Freedom Act, which guaranteed every person a right to make decisions about reproductive health care.

01:10:15.600 So, of course, that includes abortion.

01:10:18.060 She would love abortion through all nine months. 0.56

01:10:21.200 In November of 2025, she was asked by MSNBC reporter whether she would stand by now deleted tweets from 2020, condemning the police, calling them for them to be defunded and celebrating the burning down of a police station.

01:10:38.260 OK, here's what she had to say.

01:10:39.460 In 2020, you made some tweets that have since been deleted that were very critical of police.

01:10:46.820 You said in those since-deleted tweets that the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department should be dissolved.

01:10:53.240 Another cheered on a teachers union saying that defund the police should be a requirement for schools reopening.

01:10:59.060 And another saying good morning, especially to the 54 percent of Americans that believe burning down a police station is justified.

01:11:07.420 2020 was obviously a very fraught year.

01:11:10.280 Do you still stand by those comments?

01:11:12.920 And if not, is there anything you want to clarify?

01:11:17.120 I'm not going to engage in cable news talking points.

01:11:20.420 What?

01:11:22.380 They were your own quotes.

01:11:24.800 That's horrible.

01:11:25.820 So horrifying to believe that arson and violence is OK for what?

01:11:30.920 So punishing innocent people for what someone else allegedly did in the state of Minnesota is apparently justice.

01:11:39.420 She's just not a good person. 0.67

01:11:41.760 She's not the kind of person that you want to represent.

01:11:43.940 And look, our majority is Republicans in the House of Representatives, which she's running for, is getting slimmer.

01:11:50.840 If she wins, it's getting slimmer.

01:11:52.160 Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's resigning.

01:11:54.100 It's getting slimmer still.

01:11:55.920 And so we want to make sure that Republican Matt Van Epps wins, that he is in office.

01:12:02.120 Obviously, we know that someone who fights for abortion, that fights for the dissolution of the reality of male and female, 0.97

01:12:09.300 who doesn't believe in law enforcement, cannot keep you safe.

01:12:12.880 And plus, you can't lead what you don't love.

01:12:16.260 Like, you just you just can't.

01:12:17.940 You can't lead well something that you hate unless you just want to fundamentally change it.

01:12:23.380 Like, there's a reason why Tennessee has become this stronghold, this refuge for conservatives.

01:12:29.500 And she wants to change that.

01:12:31.840 Democrats want to make sure that there's nowhere that you can hide, nowhere that you can go to be free.

01:12:37.340 And so just make sure that she doesn't win. 0.64

01:12:39.620 I'm going to be super disappointed in you if she wins. 1.00

01:12:41.940 OK, that's that's your warning.

01:12:43.880 I'm going to be very disappointed in you.

01:12:45.480 So I'll be back Wednesday and we'll talk about it maybe a little bit then.

01:12:51.560 And if you don't go vote, you're in trouble and you're in timeout.

01:12:56.360 And that's all I have to say.

01:12:57.820 We'll be back here on Wednesday with more.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - December 01, 2025

Ep 1273 ｜ Autism Fraud, Islamic Corruption & a Crucial Tennessee Election

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