Ep 1283 ｜ Is Tucker Carlson Right About Islam？
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In this episode of Relatable for the new year, Allie talks about the breaking news of the day and gives us a quick introduction to who she is, what she does, and what you can expect from Relatable in 2020.
Transcript
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The new mayor of New York City was sworn in on the Quran and is encouraging us to embrace
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What has the warmth of collectivism looked like for the past 100 years?
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Also, Tim Walz has dropped out of the governor race because of Somalian fraud there in the
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state, and Tucker Carlson is warning us about the danger of Islamophobia.
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It is January 5th in the year of our Lord, 2026.
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And to kick off this first episode of Relatable for the year, we do have some breaking news.
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Let me just check my notes to make sure that I have this correct.
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God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch.
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Everything is going according to his plan without fail, without faltering.
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Today is a great day to do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory
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And so let us kick off not only this day and this week with that really, really good news,
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but this year, God's mercies are new every morning.
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And so no matter what happened last year or yesterday or in the last hour, God's mercies
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In the Stucky world, we had a wonderful, mostly restful break in our home.
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Every time he makes brisket, it is like top notch.
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We had lots of cookies, but I am excited and grateful, even though the break was so wonderful
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I am so excited to be back here and I'm so grateful to be with you all.
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So thankful for all of you who allow Relatable to exist and have allowed it to exist for,
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let's see, it's 2026 or eight years, almost eight years in March.
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For those who are new, if you are new to Relatable, it's your New Year's resolution to listen to
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I have been hosting Relatable, like I just said, since 2018, coming up on those eight
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We have been talking about culture, theology, parenting, health, news, politics from a Christian,
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We've talked to Kat Von D, John MacArthur, Candace Cameron-Bure, so many other people, so many
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Most of those women are young moms, but we have lots of people in lots of different age
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And we also, of course, love and appreciate our Relatables.
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I host a women's conference called Share the Arrows every year.
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We've done that twice, where the women who attend hear from, I believe, the most solid
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Christian teachers of our day about how to apply the Word of God to every area of our
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Last year, God graciously allowed 6,700 women to come to this conference.
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Lord willing, we will be announcing the date for Share the Arrows 2026 very soon.
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That is my quick introduction and summary about who I am, what I do here.
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If you want to know more about what I believe, really about any subject, or if you want to
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see if I've talked to a certain person, I have lots and lots of episodes for you to catch
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And you can just type in my name or Relatable Allie Beth Stuckey and the subject that you're
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looking for or the guest that you're looking for.
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And all of these are available wherever you watch or you listen to your podcast.
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This is for me and for all of you to give us some context to see where we are as we start
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We have just come out of that kind of two-week period where we don't know what day of the
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And it feels like those first few moments after waking up from a long nap in the middle
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of the day, which I have not done in a long time.
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But if you think back to maybe your college days when you're like, you're done with class,
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you go to bed, you wake up at 6 p.m. and you're totally disoriented and you're bleary-eyed and
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And those are actually the exact three questions that I want to address today.
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And what are we supposed to be doing right now as Christians, as women, as moms?
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I want us to orient ourselves as best as we can so that we don't spend the first quarter
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of the year, the first half of the year, getting our bearings while there is work to be done
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So right now, we need to understand where exactly we are, what moment we're in, in this timeline
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of eternity, and what our role is in all of that.
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As you guys know, I've been saying this for a long time, clarity is kindness and courage
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And so today, as always, I want you to end this episode feeling like I have passed on
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to you, by the grace of God, both clarity and courage, because times are really confusing
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and maybe more confusing than they've ever been in a lot of ways, and I'll explain that.
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And the gifts that we can give to those around us, to our kids, to our friends, to our neighbors,
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whomever is in our big or small circle of influence, are clarity and courage.
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This involves looking at where we are as a country, politically, ideologically, by looking
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at a few big things happening that say a lot about this moment, Mamdani in New York, Maduro
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in Venezuela, the Islamic Marxist alliance that no longer dominates just the left, but
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is actually growing and influence a popularity on the right as well.
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So we'll look at what this all means about the spiritual moment that we're in, and what
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How should we be thinking about these issues that we're going through?
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What should we be doing as Christians, as citizens, also as moms and wives and neighbors and friends,
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So whether you are waking up from a two-week slumber because of Christmas break, or whether
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you have spent your whole life unplugged from the goings-on of the world and what the truth
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of God's Word says about them, it's time to wake up.
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The verse that came to mind while preparing this segment was Ephesians 5.14.
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Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.
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You guys know, as I've said many times, that politics matter because policy matters because
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The ideas behind our politics affect our policy, which affects people.
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Politics matter because policy matters because people matter to God and to us.
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And so by me sharing that verse and infusing the Word of God into our political worldview is
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not to make politics primary, but it is to say that it is an important aspect of our lives
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because it affects the people that we are called to love.
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So what we think about the issues that we're going through today, it really matters because
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Well, we're in a place where Islam and Marxism are unabashedly allied to crush Western
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I must have not had my finger on the pulse exactly when it came to socialism.
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After Bernie Sanders didn't win the presidential primary and AOC, yes, she, of course, is still
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And you just didn't hear this word socialism or democratic socialism quite as much.
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I did not realize that people were still buying this nonsense.
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This combination of Islamic dominance and Marxism is actually embodied in one person.
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He just celebrated his inauguration and gave this speech.
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And it's troubling a lot of people, including me.
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We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.
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We'll get to the Islamic aspect of this in a second.
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But first, let's focus on what he just said there.
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The elevation of the ideology of collectivism, the warmth of collectivism, he said, which is
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responsible for the deaths of at least 100 million people in the 20th century alone.
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And I posted that on X and I posted it on Instagram and I got some people asking genuinely,
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And what do you mean by saying that it's responsible for 100 million deaths in only the 1900s?
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Collectivism is the umbrella term for communism, socialism, and I would even say fascism, because
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all of these systems in their own ways prioritize the good of the group over the good of the
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And maybe with that definition, you think, okay, that sounds good.
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You're taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.
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Maybe you even think that that sounds Christian.
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The government gets to define what that good is.
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It's also not just for the benefit of the group at the expense of the benefit for the
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individual, but it is also the rights, so-called, of the group at the expense of the rights of
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And if you don't understand exactly what that means, you don't have to take my word for it
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We can look at what collectivism actually has looked like tangibly throughout history,
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If we look at, for example, communist Cambodia in the 1970s, Pol Pot imposed agrarian collectivism.
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That means he abolished all private land ownership.
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He forced people out of cities and into these rural communes.
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And this was to create what sounded very compassionate, very oppression-less, and that was a classless
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And theoretically, there would be no more inequality.
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There would be no more oppression of the poor because the rich guy wouldn't have more than
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And this was to accomplish what they called a reset.
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That probably sounds familiar if you've been listening to this podcast.
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And an arrival at year zero, where the communists believed that they could start over and build
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a new classless, oppression-less, opposition-less society where everyone would share and everyone
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would be happy because everyone would have what they need.
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And so to achieve this end, forcing people out of the cities, forcing them into these communes,
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They couldn't produce the food that was necessary.
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Other hundreds of thousands were tortured to death.
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They were murdered with pickaxes specifically because Khmer Rouge, the regime of Pol Pot,
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The murders were so vast in Pol Pot's communist world that there were swaths of land dubbed
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Maybe you've heard of books about this, or maybe you've heard of the killing fields.
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There are a lot of historical analyses of what was going on in these killing fields and how
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If you're going to learn about this, you need to prepare yourself because it's not for
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Children were kidnapped from families and forced to serve in the regime.
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The slogan of Khmer Rouge was, to keep you is no gain and to lose you is no loss.
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And that right there, that slogan typifies, it summarizes what the warmth of collectivism
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That as long as the collective goal is being achieved in the eyes of the government, in
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the eyes of the leader, the individual doesn't matter at all.
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The country still has not fully recovered 50 years later.
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And then if you look at China in the mid-20th century, China's communist leader, Mao Zedong,
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set out to create this classless communist society again to alleviate the oppression that
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And so first he implemented land reform in which private land was seized from the evil
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That actually is very familiar, very similar to a lot of the rhetoric that you hear from
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someone like Zoran Mamdani, that these private landowners or these landlords are really the cause
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and the source of the oppression, which of course is not true.
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Now it sounds compassionate to redistribute land and property to peasants, but the landlords
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They were humiliated in what were called struggle sessions.
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And these rituals were used not just for landlords as they were in the beginning, but they were
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used for decades to shame Mao's political opposition.
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I mean, people were literally put in the city center and they were flogged and they were shamed
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And they were tortured until they relented, until they said, okay, I support Mao or I relent
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on whatever position I had that was not acceptable to the communist regime.
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Many of these landlords were just outright executed, as was most of the political opposition.
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There was a great leap forward in communist China of the late 50s and early 60s that attempted
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And this meant abolishing all private farming and turning all farming communal, much like
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And this was collective forced labor to produce the food that would then be distributed to
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This was actually the deadliest famine in human history.
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The deadliest famine in human history was because of communism.
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It wasn't some famine in the Middle Ages or in biblical times.
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The deadliest famine in all of human history happened in the 1960s in China because of communism,
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Mao's cultural revolution from the 60s to the 70s recruited kids into the Red Guard, which
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was responsible for murdering all those that were perceived as the enemies of communism.
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And so all in all, scholars estimate that up to 80 million people were murdered or died as
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a result of Mao's policies in those 27 years of his reign.
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Lenin and Stalin's Russia, which forced collectivism and abolished individualism and killed about 20
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Mugabe, Zimbabwe, which promised liberation from the colonizer and redistribution of wealth
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from the rich to the poor via forced collectivism and has irreparably plummeted a once wealthy
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It sounds good because it's sold via toxic empathy.
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Isn't it unfair that this rich guy has so much and this little guy has so little?
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Isn't it unfair that you struggle while your landlord is getting rich by charging you so
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Wouldn't it feel good to take from this rich, powerful guy and give to the little guy?
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And that's exactly why two of the big Ten Commandments have to do with the legitimacy of private
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property or that's part of why God says in two of the Ten Commandments, you shall not
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steal and not only that, but you shall not covet.
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So not only do you not have the right to what someone else has, you can't even want what
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Now, did Israel have an obligation to care for the poor?
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Yes, but not through the abolition of private property and forced communal labor.
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By the way, I find it interesting that the progressives who like to cite and misrepresent
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the Old Testament rules about helping the needy are not at all interested in the Old Testament
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rules when it comes to homosexuality and immigration and things like that.
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They also cite the early church and they'll say this was communism.
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But the early church in Acts gave what they had to one another and had, quote, all things
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They were not forced to give up the property at gunpoint by the government, which is what
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They were empowered by the Holy Spirit to do so.
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Work and production and earning what you have are biblical ideas.
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Proverbs praises diligence and condemns not working, saying a slack hand causes poverty.
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2 Thessalonians 3.10 condemns slothfulness, insisting that one who is not willing, not
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unable, but not willing to work, shouldn't even eat.
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Generosity is a biblical idea, but generosity by nature is not forced.
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2 Corinthians 9.7 says that God loves a cheerful giver, not one who gives because they're forced
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So there's nothing biblical about collectivism.
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Individualism is the idea that you are responsible for your actions, your future, and that through
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This is not to be confused with selfishness or self-centeredness, however, which says that
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the individual's desires and ambitions always matter more than anyone else's needs.
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The foundational American belief, which is a biblical belief, is that the individual matters
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in and of himself, that he has incredible value because he is a person and people are
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made by a creator who, as our Declaration of Independence states, has given us the rights
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to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property that no government can arbitrarily take away,
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not in the name of power, not in the name of compassion, not in the name of vengeance,
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We also believe in the individual's ability to chart his own path, to take ownership of his
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or her life, to start a family, to work hard, and to really, truly own what he has,
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We don't negate the importance of shared values as a nation.
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We do have to have some sort of collective value system.
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We don't negate the necessity of community and church and family.
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In fact, I love this quote by Milton Friedman, the economist.
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He said, the family, rather than the individual, has always been and remains today the basic
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Collectivism not only diminishes the individual, it attempts to replace the family.
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Whether it's Pol Pot or Stalin or Hitler, every collectivist dictator attempts to weaken the
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family because the dad-mom-child entity is so perfectly designed by God as a bulwark against
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predators, whether in the government or otherwise.
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The weaker ones are protected by the stronger, the woman nurturing the child and tempering the
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man, the man fighting for and protecting the woman and child.
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Christianity, therefore, is inherently problematic for tyrants, especially the collectivist kind,
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because of its reliance on the cohesion of the family, but also because of its insistence
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upon worshiping God, not the government, relying on the church, not the state, working for and
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earning what you have and taking care of those in need yourself rather than stealing what is
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Christianity is and should be a boil on the back of dictators.
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We should be an obstacle to those who wish to do harm to the most vulnerable.
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You should read the Gulag Archipelago, and you'll learn about the warmth of collectivism
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and how Christianity stood against tyranny in the 20th century.
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That is our history, and it still has to be today.
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From Nero to Newsom, from Mussolini to Mamdani, Christ reigns.
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And Christians, simply by being Christians, have to live that out with clarity and courage.
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From the 7th century, when Islam was established, to today, for 1,300 years, Christianity has
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had to defend itself for 2,000 years, not only against tyrants, but 1,300 years also against
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And for some reason, some people think that things are different now.
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The mayor of an American city putting his hand on the Quran for his swearing in is not a
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It is a sign that we are being conquered by this Islamist, Marxist machine and regime.
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Here is Mamdani being sworn in on the Quran in New York City.
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In many ways, it is the hub of American industry and at one time, the crown jewel of American life.
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Like New York City is often what people abroad think about exclusively when they think about America.
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It is, whether we like it or not, the international representation of America's brand, which is exactly why, of course, on September 11th, 2001, Al Qaeda, a Muslim terrorist group, targeted New York City in an attack that killed 2,753 people.
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It tops the Oklahoma City bombing and every other act of aggression on American land since the Civil War.
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This was mass murder, and it was committed by Muslims who hate America and hate the West and hate Christians and Jews, what bin Laden called the Zionist Crusader Alliance, and they felt that it was their duty to Allah to kill as many Americans as possible.
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And now here we are in that very, very place, allowing that very ideology to gain power and prominence in New York and throughout the country.
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Now, listen, am I saying that Mumdani is in any way responsible for that?
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We don't believe in generational responsibility and collective punishment.
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No Muslim is responsible for what another Muslim does, just as no Christian or no white person or no Chinese person, etc., is responsible for the actions of someone who shares their creed or skin color or nationality.
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We've talked many times about the definition of justice, according to the God who created justice.
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When we look at God's law giving to Israel, we see what legal justice is, and it is, among other things, direct.
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No one bears the punishment for what their father did.
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The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son.
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But that's not the argument for the warning against Islam.
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The argument is that Islam as a religion is inherently violent, inherently imperialistic, inherently conquest-driven, inherently at odds with Christianity, inherently at odds with the Constitution, because it is necessarily theocratic.
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Islam means submission, and the goal of Islam is to make Islamic nations, in which Sharia is implemented and all infidels and blasphemers are put to death.
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When Charlie Kirk said that Islamic ideology and the Constitution are incompatible, this is what he meant.
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It's not about demonizing individual Muslims who can be kind neighbors and friends.
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Of course, this is about the belief system as a whole.
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And before I give an example of that, I do also just want to point out here, this headline is from Fox News.
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Mamdani Tapp's controversial lawyer who defended al-Qaeda terrorist for top role and called him a powerful advocate.
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Ramzi Kassem's record also includes serving as a top advisor for immigration on the White House Domestic Policy Council during the Biden admin.
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And so al-Qaeda, the group responsible for the largest terrorist attack, mass murder on American soil just about 25 years ago, the guy who defended them, one of the attorneys who defended them, is now in a position of power in New York City thanks to Zoran Mamdani.
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I think that's worth noting, and again, that goes to show that Islam is not apologetic as a whole about those things that have happened, but they understand that this is simply a part of the process of jihad and Islamic dominance.
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Here are two scholars, Muslim scholars, on Patrick Bette-David's show confirming to an ex-Muslim that in a Sharia-run country, which is the goal, that he would be put to death.
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In a proper Islamic jurisdiction, an Islamic nation, all of the laws of Islam and the Sharia as revealed by God should be applied.
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So if we were in that kind of state, would you do it?
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Including, including, with proper due process, with a proper court hearing, just like any nation of laws, the laws of the Sharia should be applied, including the death penalty for not only apostates, but also blasphemers.
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I deserve to be killed because I left Islam and became a Christian.
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According to Islamic law, an apostate like you would be killed, yes.
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At least there'd be a judge and a jury in the United States' stand that could confirm whether or not you had blasphemed by being a Christian and then you would get put to death.
00:31:06.460
And these, by the way, those kind of scholars are considered like the moderate types and they're acknowledging what the goal is.
00:31:14.260
And this is the ideology of the people who have taken positions of power in Michigan and Minnesota and New York and London and Belgium and Paris.
00:31:21.320
I'm not saying that they all believe exactly that, but this is the ideology.
00:31:27.640
It's the ideology responsible for ramming through Christmas markets across Europe, for murdering cartoonists who insult Mohammed, and for the lion's share of the world's terrorism, for the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria and throughout the Middle East.
00:31:39.780
This is not Islamophobia. Phobia means an irrational fear.
00:31:46.460
This is looking at the last 1,300 years of Islam and noticing the unmistakable pattern that the Islamic belief system cannot peacefully coexist with Christian Western civilization for very long.
00:31:56.740
But you've got some people on the right, quite suddenly, to me, from my perspective, who are asserting that it is actually hatred of Muslims to point this out.
00:32:06.220
You've got Tucker Carlson, someone that I have been a huge fan of for many years and who have admired, I've admired him for many years.
00:32:13.340
I'm sure I still agree with him on a lot of things.
00:32:15.120
But he was interviewed by an outlet called the American Conservative, and he was asked about his condemnation of, quote, Islamophobia in his AmericaFest speech.
00:32:24.140
And just to give you some context, here's part of that speech thought, too.
00:32:27.800
What you're watching now, attacking people on the attacking millions of Americans because they're Muslims.
00:32:37.140
I'm never. I know there's a lot of effort to claim I'm a secret jihadi.
00:32:39.340
I'm not. You should not attack people on those grounds.
00:32:46.340
What you're doing is trying to divide the country.
00:32:51.180
All these fake race wars that they're always promoting.
00:32:54.580
Oh, go hate each other while we loot the Treasury.
00:33:03.620
But let me keep going with his explanation and the American Conservative and then I'll respond.
00:33:12.420
He said, how is hating all Muslims better than hating all Jews?
00:33:24.980
First of all, Christians aren't supposed to hate anybody.
00:33:30.020
We may disapprove of people as individuals, but we can't start holding their children responsible for their crimes or else we're done.
00:33:35.140
And then he goes on to say, I know a lot of Muslims who are deeply humane and good people.
00:33:39.180
I've just traveled a lot and I've never taken a dollar from a Muslim, blah, blah, blah.
00:33:43.940
He said, clean conscience, thinking that every Muslim is Osama bin Laden.
00:33:51.880
So, okay, Turning Point asked its attendees at AmFest whether their top concern for the country is, and the top answer was radical Islam.
00:34:06.400
So, Tucker was asked about this in this interview, and he said that this idea, being fearful of radical Islam and this big top concern about it,
00:34:18.300
I don't know anyone in the United States in the last 24 years who has been killed by radical Islam.
00:34:24.800
I know people who have died because of drug ODs, and then he goes on to list some other things like DEI that are affecting the country.
00:34:34.560
That's a logical fallacy because we don't have to choose.
00:34:38.560
Like, we have to choose between caring about radical Islam and caring about ODs from fentanyl and DEI.
00:34:45.980
I care about both of those things a lot because I care about people.
00:34:55.240
So, I'm not sure why it's presented as, like, a necessary choice.
00:34:59.140
Second, if I found out that Islam, that radical Islam, was just a psychological operation by the Israeli government, I would be thrilled.
00:35:12.180
Like, if you told me that Nigerian Christians and Ugandan Christians aren't really being kidnapped and murdered by Islamic terrorists,
00:35:19.560
that Germany is actually able to celebrate Christmas publicly in safety,
00:35:23.780
that France doesn't actually have to put up blockades for public events because of Muslims ramming vans into crowds,
00:35:30.560
that the Middle East is actually a safe place to travel as a Christian woman,
00:35:34.020
and that England hasn't been infested with Islamic child rape gangs,
00:35:38.080
that two U.S. service members weren't just murdered in D.C. in November by a man screaming Allahu Akbar,
00:35:45.220
that TSA isn't really necessary because Al-Qaeda crashed planes into the Pentagon and the Twin Towers,
00:35:52.720
and that I can just rest easy knowing that it's all just an Israeli op.
00:36:03.460
No, the real psychological operation, the real psyop,
00:36:13.880
Focus on this secret thing over here that only I can really see and show you.
00:36:18.180
It's like when the government a couple of years ago tried to tell us that the number one source of terrorism
00:36:23.040
is from right-wing white supremacists, and we're all like,
00:36:29.080
Like, wouldn't Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid be telling me these stories if this was something that was really happening?
00:36:35.600
But the government was like, don't believe your eyes and ears.
00:36:39.280
It's really the secret group over here that we have secret intelligence about.
00:36:42.760
It's like some kind of form of sophisticated Gnosticism.
00:36:47.640
Tucker, like I said, I think that he has been so right and first and right on so many things over the years,
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He is also wrong specifically about the casualties when it comes to Islam,
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Let's talk about some of the statistics about the victims of Islamic terror.
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In 2002, a Los Angeles International Airport shooting,
00:38:39.040
two people were killed and four wounded by an Egyptian immigrant motivated by anti-Israel hatred
00:38:52.640
by an Iran native who intentionally drove an SUV into a crowd on campus
00:39:04.560
one person killed, five wounded by a citizen, a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent,
00:39:10.840
who declared himself a, quote, Muslim American angry at Israel.
00:39:18.240
one person killed and one person wounded by an American-born convert to Islam
00:39:22.240
who claimed inspiration from jihadist ideology had ties to al-Qaeda.
00:39:33.400
32 wounded by an American-born army major of Palestinian descent
00:39:36.620
who communicated with a preacher linked to al-Qaeda.
00:39:45.220
Four people killed and more than 260 wounded by Islamist brothers.
00:39:53.180
Five people killed and two wounded by a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Kuwait
00:39:57.160
who killed five people inspired by, quote, foreign terrorist propaganda, according to FBI and CNN.
00:40:07.540
21 wounded by a guy who pledged allegiance to ISIS.
00:40:18.760
At least 66 wounded at an Orlando nightclub by an American-born-to-Afghan parents who pledged allegiance to ISIS.
00:40:28.380
12 wounded by a guy who provided material support to ISIS.
00:40:36.920
Eight wounded by a Saudi Air Force lieutenant training in the U.S. linked to al-Qaeda.
00:40:46.580
At least 57 wounded by a Texan Army veteran and convert to Islam.
00:40:55.220
But also, in 2014, this one is really important.
00:41:00.260
There was an American journalist by the name of Stephen Sotloff.
00:41:04.120
He was captured by ISIS in Syria and he was beheaded.
00:41:07.980
ISIS released a video showing Sotloff's murder.
00:41:12.940
That was an outlet that Tucker Carlson co-founded in 2010.
00:41:24.880
I'm not sure how the Israeli government could be responsible for a psychological operation
00:41:36.160
Now, Tucker is right that Christians are called to love our neighbors.
00:41:47.080
It is not loving to stay silent about evil ideologies like Islam.
00:41:52.420
Even though there are Islamic neighbors and friends whose maybe contributions to our community,
00:42:09.400
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
00:42:15.040
Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
00:42:21.360
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
00:42:25.120
for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
00:42:30.680
And so, Christians are called to never rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoice with the truth.
00:42:36.520
Love is inextricably intertwined with the truth.
00:42:39.480
And if you listen to my conversation with Raymond Ibrahim, who has been studying and writing
00:42:44.540
about the history of Islam for many decades now, he will tell you that the motivation behind
00:42:51.280
the Christian soldiers throughout history who fought against the predation of Islam was
00:43:00.140
It was a desire to protect the women and children who could not defend themselves.
00:43:04.880
The first Barbary war in America was not fought because of conquest, but to protect America,
00:43:11.740
our freedoms, our women and children against the predation of Islam.
00:43:16.860
And so, this very weak form of Christianity, which is not at all bothered by evil, and is
00:43:25.300
not at all bothered by the slaughter of vulnerable Christians elsewhere, and can't name the ideology
00:43:32.440
for fear of being called some kind of bigot or phobe.
00:43:35.620
That is not the Christianity throughout history that has been the boil on the back of tyrants
00:43:41.680
and is pushed back against the dictatorships that have harmed vulnerable people throughout
00:43:48.400
It is completely unfamiliar to the saints that have gone before us.
00:43:53.880
But also, we see different forms of Islam and its pervasiveness in our country.
00:44:01.360
It's not only about the casualties that we have seen.
00:44:04.580
It is also through mass migration, high levels of fraud in places like the Minnesota government.
00:44:14.640
And we don't have time to get into this entire story, but I just want to give this example.
00:44:21.640
I think he stays solid when it comes to immigration.
00:44:25.060
That when you import the third world, especially when you import a particular ideology that is
00:44:31.620
hostile to the constitution, you bring not only risk of violence and risk of physical casualties,
00:44:42.940
And when we look at the Somali population in Minnesota, we see through this stunning report
00:44:51.960
We talked about last month, some of the fraud problems happening, but now we have this independent
00:44:57.660
journalist named Nick Shirley, who released a video titled, I Investigated Minnesota's Billion
00:45:04.340
He released this the day after Christmas in which he and a fellow investigator visited multiple
00:45:08.500
daycare facilities in the Somali community that were receiving federal funding while appearing
00:45:17.600
And this video went hugely viral, prompted federal authorities to launch their own investigations
00:45:23.960
and to freeze child care funding to Minnesota until the state sends a list of providers and
00:45:30.560
We're talking millions and millions of taxpayer dollars.
00:45:33.600
Hardworking people in Minnesota are paying this money because they've been told, look, we got
00:45:42.700
So, so support this program via, so this is toxic empathy being fed to the masses.
00:45:49.340
No one wants to be the person to stand up and say, I think we should give less money to the
00:45:57.400
No one wants to say, I think we're maybe giving too much money to poor daycare workers.
00:46:03.020
Like no one wants to be that person because everyone wants to be perceived as empathetic.
00:46:06.880
And it's just easier to just hand over your money, to not ask where it's going, and to
00:46:12.340
just feel like a good person because you want to believe the stated intentions of politicians.
00:46:18.520
And it also, I think, is an excuse for a lot of people to not give to charity themselves
00:46:23.420
and to not actually embody virtue themselves because they can kind of outsource their compassion
00:46:30.940
And it's much more uncomfortable to ask these questions and possibly get in trouble and possibly
00:46:41.980
He said on January 1st, Somalians are ripping off our country to the tune of, it looks like
00:46:48.840
Every one of them should be forced to leave this country, including Ilhan Omar, who's a
00:46:54.220
I mean, she probably did allegedly commit immigration fraud to come to this country.
00:47:00.040
So President Trump says, we're not going to pay it anymore.
00:47:05.180
I think everyone would like to see some action.
00:47:10.360
Like, can we care about where our tax dollars go?
00:47:13.420
Because you'll remember the likes of people like David French and Russell Moore and others
00:47:20.280
criticizing Doge that, oh no, we're taking money from these programs that are supposed
00:47:26.500
It's supposed to help these poor kids in Africa.
00:47:28.800
We're just, again, supposed to believe the stated intentions and never look at the outcomes.
00:47:32.820
And we're never supposed to care about where our money is going.
00:47:37.320
But the money could actually be going in a direction that's good.
00:47:40.760
It could actually be going in a direction that's beneficial.
00:47:42.960
I think I trust you all as the American people to do a better job of sending your money to
00:47:49.400
the right place than I trust the government because you got corruption like this.
00:47:54.360
And no one wants to say anything because these Somalian communities vote Democrat.
00:47:57.980
And if you can get 100,000 people to vote your way, then most politicians are going to do
00:48:07.080
And that's the thing with the Democratic Party.
00:48:08.940
They can use toxic empathy to convince people to give them more and more tax dollars and
00:48:13.200
And then they are able to then buy off entire communities and use that to enrich themselves.
00:48:18.120
And so everyone benefits, except for you, the conservative Christian who is just trying
00:48:25.660
to run a business and raise a family and do right by others and do right by God.
00:48:32.200
But if you care about this, Tim Wall says it's white supremacy.
00:48:36.680
This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you.
00:48:40.080
This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit.
00:48:45.360
And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy.
00:48:49.520
When you hear the vice president of the United States talk about now white people won't have
00:48:57.000
OK, he's like mixing up a bunch of things and has a bunch of projection there.
00:49:03.100
But apparently this is mixed together with white supremacy.
00:49:06.740
But today is not a great day for Tim Walls because he has decided to drop out of Minnesota's
00:49:18.940
I mean, he has been trying for the past few weeks to say, oh, this is not really a problem.
00:49:24.660
Actually, this is a problem, but it's not Somalians.
00:49:31.960
He said political actors are taking advantage of this crisis.
00:49:36.800
The crisis is manufactured by your incompetent and corrupt leadership.
00:49:44.060
He said Donald Trump and his allies in Washington, D.C. in St. Paul.
00:49:47.820
Does Donald Trump have a bunch of allies in St. Paul?
00:49:52.220
And online want to make our state a colder, meaner place.
00:49:57.140
No, like we just want daycare centers to take care of kids.
00:50:03.580
Does that make us white supremacists that I just want people who work really hard and
00:50:08.380
give a portion of their paycheck to the government?
00:50:10.880
I want them to be able to trust that that money is going in a direction that really matters.
00:50:15.640
I think most people in Minnesota would be fine with a portion of their paycheck going to take
00:50:20.440
care of true refugees or going to take care of children.
00:50:23.620
But when it's going to pay fraudsters and to keep empty buildings warm, like that's a problem,
00:50:38.340
Well, it took a right wing YouTuber to expose the truth.
00:50:42.300
And that right wing YouTuber simply used his skills and called for transparency and kicked
00:50:56.480
Good job, right wing YouTubers and influencers.
00:51:01.280
You can try to belittle that all you want to, but that changed the trajectory of Minnesota.
00:51:09.580
But Minnesota, like if you can get it together, if Donald Trump can get it together and actually
00:51:13.960
get the bad actors out of here, then maybe Minnesota can switch over.
00:51:21.280
And there's a lot of good people there, just like California and Washington and Oregon.
00:51:26.880
And it is just captured by these far left immigrant communities and by Democrat politicians
00:51:34.160
turning a blind eye to fraud, whether for votes or campaign funding or via toxic empathy to
00:51:43.380
feel like a good like anti-racist ally and to cast Muslims as oppressed victims is wrong.
00:51:57.080
This is refusing to see the truth and to say the truth because it's politically expedient
00:52:02.940
and you are motivated by a hatred of conservatives or a hatred of Donald Trump that you won't
00:52:08.860
even just say that lying is bad and stealing is bad.
00:52:13.920
And that's not the place that Christians should be.
00:52:17.660
Rescue those who are being taken away to death.
00:52:19.540
Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
00:52:21.100
If you say, behold, we did not know this, does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
00:52:26.180
Does not he who keeps the watch over your soul know it?
00:52:28.700
And will he not repay man according to his work?
00:52:32.980
So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.
00:52:41.360
We've got just a couple of things to say about what's going on with Maduro and Venezuela in
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That is in addition to the three episodes a week that you are getting from me.
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Two Saturdays a month, you will get to hear from my dad.
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And he will break finances down to you, what's going on with the economy, what's going on
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And my dad is so good at very calmly breaking things down, telling us that it's going to be
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And I love that my dad has been able to kind of fill that gap for a lot of you while also
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I think the first one's going to be this Saturday.
00:55:12.120
And then I'll tell you, um, on Wednesday's episode for sure, but he is going to be talking
00:55:17.500
more about what's happening with Maduro and Venezuela and why Trump did what he did and
00:55:27.100
But let me just tell you a little bit about what happened because I do feel responsible
00:55:30.480
to tell you something about this huge news item, but then he will break it down even more.
00:55:36.120
So on Saturday, January 3rd, President Trump announced the capture of Venezuelan leader
00:55:40.980
Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores, during an overnight U.S. military operation
00:55:46.240
in Caracas known as Operation Absolute Resolve.
00:55:50.120
The raid involving special operations forces and over 150 aircraft for cover resulted in no
00:55:58.160
The couple was taken from a fortified compound to face 2020 U.S. charges, including narco-terrorism
00:56:06.580
So from Venezuela, we're getting all kinds of drugs, fentanyl, cocaine.
00:56:10.940
These are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans every year.
00:56:14.260
Trump shared a photo on social media showing a blindfolded and handcuffed Maduro in custody
00:56:18.820
aboard the USS Iwo Jima amphibious assault ship before transfer to New York for trial.
00:56:26.340
And I just have to say the memes that have come out of this have been top notch.
00:56:32.500
Just go on X, go on Instagram and search for them.
00:56:37.480
Whatever you think about this, the memes are the best.
00:56:43.640
Praising Marco Rubio, praising Donald Trump, and just kind of praising American being a superpower,
00:56:58.020
On the right, you've got some people on the right saying, OK, we don't want to run Venezuela.
00:57:03.480
That's one thing that Trump said, that we're going to run Venezuela.
00:57:11.600
This could actually exacerbate the drug problem.
00:57:14.020
This could exacerbate the mass migration problem.
00:57:20.680
You're just, Trump is just trying to raise his own numbers and start a war.
00:57:32.080
Also, people saying, well, this is just going to enrage their allies like Russia, like China,
00:57:39.980
And this is just going to make tensions even worse.
00:57:44.700
And then the other side of it is saying, no, these are legitimate charges and they are
00:57:59.160
Timothy and I, my husband and I were talking about this beforehand.
00:58:02.100
And like, he was just pointing out that, yeah, there's always going to be a world power.
00:58:09.280
There's always going to be someone in charge, whether it's America or whether it's China
00:58:15.700
or whether it's Iran or whether it is Russia, someone is always going to be in charge.
00:58:27.760
And if America is in charge, then America is going to do what is in America's best interests.
00:58:34.420
Now, you could argue about what America's best interests are in this.
00:58:38.440
But the Trump administration believes that getting Maduro out of the way, who is an illegitimate
00:58:43.580
president, he didn't really win the election, and who has, via the warmth of collectivism,
00:58:49.280
run Venezuela into the ground, starving their own people so they can't even get the basic
00:58:54.240
necessities to live and are eating their pets, that that is in America's best interest.
00:59:02.720
And someone's going to take control of that oil.
00:59:14.460
There are going to be disagreements about that.
00:59:17.860
J.D. Vance, vice president, said, you see a lot of claims that Venezuela has nothing to
00:59:21.880
do with drugs because most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere.
00:59:30.800
Venezuela cocaine is the main drug trafficked out of Venezuela as a profit center for all
00:59:37.720
Third, yes, a lot of fentanyl is coming out of Mexico.
00:59:39.920
That continues to be the focus of our policy in Mexico and is why President Trump shut the
00:59:46.820
About 20 years ago, Venezuela expropriated American oil property and until recently used
00:59:51.920
that stolen property to get rich and fund their narco-terrorist activities.
00:59:55.500
I understand the anxiety over the use of military force, but are we just supposed to allow
00:59:59.360
communists to steal our stuff in our hemisphere and do nothing?
01:00:06.200
Also, this is a picture of Delta Force, correct, Tom?
01:00:11.740
Um, and this is the team that went in, got Maduro and his wife out.
01:00:19.220
And at the end of the day, the military is about lethality.
01:00:24.620
At the end of the day, it is only about who can do the most, well, I don't want to say
01:00:32.160
lethal job because we didn't want to kill Maduro in this case.
01:00:35.600
That wouldn't have been the justice that we are looking for.
01:00:38.960
But in general, the military is about lethality.
01:00:41.760
It's about competence and it's about effectiveness.
01:00:50.900
It's who can protect American interests and American safety best.
01:00:57.060
Um, there was also, we'll put it up, this awesome picture of Trump and a team that was,
01:01:05.760
And I'm thankful for the secretary of war and Pete Hedgeseth.
01:01:10.180
And I'm thankful for an administration that cares about American interests.
01:01:16.560
And that's part of the whole debate and identity, figuring out that we are doing on the right.
01:01:27.700
And what actually does American interest and security look like?
01:01:31.900
But I am thankful for an administration who does believe in peace through strength and
01:01:41.240
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So right now, the American right is having what we just described, an identity crisis.
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We lost our main unifier, our lead coalition builder in Charlie Kirk.
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He tried to make peace on the right through debate and through discussion and through agreement
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And so now fights that weren't happening out in the open when Charlie was alive are happening
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And he was the moderator, like in so many ways, the moderator of debates, but also the moderator
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And so now we're left to duke it out and to see who we really are and what we're really
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And I know to all of you who watch the drama and this, like, it seems very demoralizing.
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But I'm here to tell you that it's necessary because the left is out to destroy the West
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They don't have to agree on anything except that the Western civilization way of life needs
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The right is trying to preserve the West and to build a good future.
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But in order to preserve and to build, you first have to define what are we preserving?
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What is the key component to Western civilization that we are trying to conserve?
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So we have to agree if we're building on something, on a plan, on the tools that we're using and
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And that defining process is going to involve serious and sometimes ugly debates.
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And as I said in my speech at Anthos, for the Christian who sees the importance of politics
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and serving our neighbors and glorifying God, we, our role in this is to stand firm on God's
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We can't compromise on what he says clearly in his word about morality and marriage.
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And the next few months, on Relatable, we'll be wading into some more of the debates that
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Some of these debates for the first time, but a lot of them, again, and from a fresh perspective
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and more thoroughly about Israel and America's involvement, whether the American identity is
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about genealogy and race or just about accepting American values, the goods and bads of individualism.
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And most importantly, what we see in the Bible about all of these things, because one thing
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is sure that while conservatism changes, it waxes and wanes and influence, it morphs, its
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But Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
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That means how we as Christians operate in the political space and our role in the conservative
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movement is distinct from the rest of the world.
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It doesn't mean that we're a little left and a little right.
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It just means that by the grace of God, we're as biblical as possible.
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It means that we're more principled than pragmatic.
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Because there are things that we cannot compromise on, no matter what the polls say.
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Because we care more about what God's word says.
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And his word is explicitly clear about the value of human life starting from its beginning
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that affects our view on abortion, on IVF, on surrogacy, on sperm and egg donation or sperm
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and egg selling and the importance of marriage and family.
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God's word is explicitly clear in defining marriages between one man and one woman.
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And many of the other policies that people think that God's word isn't clear on, like
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immigration or justice, actually, we can find principles for those things in God's word.
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And that's what I'm most interested in exploring.
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But, like, how can we as the church be as clear and cohesive as possible on what is good,
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And what can we do to persuade people over to our cause?
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Now, you know, as I have told you many times, that you don't have to be an influencer to have
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You don't have to be a podcaster to have a platform.
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You don't have to be on social media or have a microphone or be up on stage in order to
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convince people and persuade people of what is good, right, and true.
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You are discipling your kids by persuading them of what is good, right, and true.
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And that is an eternal investment, not just an investment in the next generation and in
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the future of our country, which really matters, but an investment in eternity because their
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And so, 2026, what's out, what we leave behind in 2025, no matter what sphere you occupy, as
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a stay-at-home mom, as an employee, as a student, as a podcaster, whatever it is, you leave behind
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cowardice, and you leave behind compromise, and you leave behind confusion.
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In 2026, we are resolute in clarity and in courage.
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No matter what that looks like for you, and the private moments and the public ones, and
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the personal and the professional and the political, clarity and courage is what we are
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By the grace of God, I am on that journey with you.
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Okay, the last thing I want to say, and I didn't plan to say this, but I was just thinking
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this, the good, the true, and the beautiful, that's what we want.
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And I saw something over the break with our kids that I think typifies that really well.
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I just wanted to say, we should be supporting beautiful art.
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We should be supporting the alternative to the demonic in the dark that we are seeing over
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And we should be supporting things that unapologetically glorify God.
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Yeah, there are some things that's like, okay, that's not exactly what happened.
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I was waiting for David to cut off Goliath's head.
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There were a couple of things like that, but nothing that was major that changed the story.
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You have to see David as a precursor for Christ.
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And you have to remember that Christ is the new and true David, the new and better David,
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And so if you see David as the precursor to the true Messiah, then I think that just
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makes the gospel come alive throughout the movie.
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There are lots of things that we can do to push back against the darkness.
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But also creating alternatives to the darkness is a great way to do that.