Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1283 ｜ Is Tucker Carlson Right About Islam？

00:00:00.000 The new mayor of New York City was sworn in on the Quran and is encouraging us to embrace

00:00:06.020 the warmth of collectivism.

00:00:08.820 What has the warmth of collectivism looked like for the past 100 years?

00:00:13.740 Also, Tim Walz has dropped out of the governor race because of Somalian fraud there in the 1.00

00:00:17.840 state, and Tucker Carlson is warning us about the danger of Islamophobia.

00:00:22.580 Happy 2026 and welcome to Relatable.

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00:00:42.100 Hey, y'all.

00:00:43.120 Happy New Year and happy Monday.

00:00:45.080 It is January 5th in the year of our Lord, 2026.

00:00:49.460 And to kick off this first episode of Relatable for the year, we do have some breaking news.

00:00:55.740 This is exclusive to Relatable.

00:00:57.180 Let me just check my notes to make sure that I have this correct.

00:01:01.140 Yes, it is correct.

00:01:02.520 God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch.

00:01:06.040 Everything is going according to his plan without fail, without faltering.

00:01:10.280 And because of that, today is a great day.

00:01:12.820 Today is the day that the Lord has made.

00:01:14.540 Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

00:01:16.820 Today is a great day to do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory

00:01:22.660 of God.

00:01:23.440 And so let us kick off not only this day and this week with that really, really good news,

00:01:29.400 but this year, God's mercies are new every morning.

00:01:32.640 Lamentations 3.23 reminds us of that.

00:01:35.960 And so no matter what happened last year or yesterday or in the last hour, God's mercies

00:01:40.980 are new for you.

00:01:42.160 And that is really great news.

00:01:43.780 In the Stucky world, we had a wonderful, mostly restful break in our home.

00:01:49.220 We had lots of quality family time.

00:01:51.280 We had lots of brisket.

00:01:53.340 That is Chief Relatable's signature.

00:01:55.980 It's so good.

00:01:57.200 Every time he makes brisket, it is like top notch.

00:02:00.840 I think he could sell it.

00:02:02.020 It's so good.

00:02:02.540 We had lots of cookies, but I am excited and grateful, even though the break was so wonderful

00:02:10.000 and so good.

00:02:10.480 I am so excited to be back here and I'm so grateful to be with you all.

00:02:14.860 So thankful for all of you who allow Relatable to exist and have allowed it to exist for,

00:02:22.480 let's see, it's 2026 or eight years, almost eight years in March.

00:02:26.080 For those who are new, if you are new to Relatable, it's your New Year's resolution to listen to

00:02:31.040 Relatable.

00:02:31.460 That's a great resolution.

00:02:33.040 Welcome.

00:02:33.860 I am Allie Beth Stucky.

00:02:35.000 I am a Christian.

00:02:35.760 I'm a wife.

00:02:36.220 I'm a mom.

00:02:37.280 I have been hosting Relatable, like I just said, since 2018, coming up on those eight

00:02:42.120 years.

00:02:42.940 That's crazy.

00:02:43.480 Almost a decade.

00:02:44.400 We have been talking about culture, theology, parenting, health, news, politics from a Christian,

00:02:50.600 conservative perspective for all of that time.

00:02:53.540 We have talked to Donald Trump.

00:02:55.440 We've talked to Kat Von D, John MacArthur, Candace Cameron-Bure, so many other people, so many

00:03:00.320 other people over the years.

00:03:01.780 Most of our audience is women.

00:03:03.640 Most of those women are young moms, but we have lots of people in lots of different age 1.00

00:03:08.260 ranges and backgrounds and stages of life.

00:03:11.100 And we also, of course, love and appreciate our Relatables.

00:03:13.640 I host a women's conference called Share the Arrows every year.

00:03:17.840 We've done that twice, where the women who attend hear from, I believe, the most solid

00:03:23.260 Christian teachers of our day about how to apply the Word of God to every area of our

00:03:28.060 lives.

00:03:28.880 Last year, God graciously allowed 6,700 women to come to this conference. 0.96

00:03:35.680 Lord willing, we will be announcing the date for Share the Arrows 2026 very soon.

00:03:41.060 So stay tuned for that.

00:03:43.240 That is my quick introduction and summary about who I am, what I do here.

00:03:47.840 If you want to know more about what I believe, really about any subject, or if you want to

00:03:51.940 see if I've talked to a certain person, I have lots and lots of episodes for you to catch

00:03:56.260 up on.

00:03:57.300 And you can just type in my name or Relatable Allie Beth Stuckey and the subject that you're

00:04:03.340 looking for or the guest that you're looking for.

00:04:05.680 And all of these are available wherever you watch or you listen to your podcast.

00:04:09.940 Today, I want to set us up.

00:04:13.320 This is for me and for all of you to give us some context to see where we are as we start

00:04:19.120 this year, 2026.

00:04:20.560 We have just come out of that kind of two-week period where we don't know what day of the

00:04:24.880 week it is.

00:04:25.720 We don't know what's going on.

00:04:27.320 Your diet fell off the rails.

00:04:29.000 Your routine is all out of whack.

00:04:30.720 And it feels like those first few moments after waking up from a long nap in the middle

00:04:35.940 of the day, which I have not done in a long time.

00:04:37.860 But if you think back to maybe your college days when you're like, you're done with class,

00:04:41.900 you go to bed, you wake up at 6 p.m. and you're totally disoriented and you're bleary-eyed and

00:04:46.820 you're like, okay, where am I?

00:04:48.740 What time is it?

00:04:49.880 What am I supposed to be doing right now?

00:04:51.900 And those are actually the exact three questions that I want to address today.

00:04:55.700 Where are we?

00:04:56.720 What time is it?

00:04:57.620 And what are we supposed to be doing right now as Christians, as women, as moms?

00:05:02.300 I want us to orient ourselves as best as we can so that we don't spend the first quarter

00:05:09.400 of the year, the first half of the year, getting our bearings while there is work to be done

00:05:13.700 in this world, in our lives, in our community.

00:05:15.840 So right now, we need to understand where exactly we are, what moment we're in, in this timeline

00:05:22.260 of eternity, and what our role is in all of that.

00:05:25.760 As you guys know, I've been saying this for a long time, clarity is kindness and courage

00:05:30.760 is contagious.

00:05:31.880 And so today, as always, I want you to end this episode feeling like I have passed on

00:05:37.500 to you, by the grace of God, both clarity and courage, because times are really confusing

00:05:42.280 and maybe more confusing than they've ever been in a lot of ways, and I'll explain that.

00:05:48.120 And the gifts that we can give to those around us, to our kids, to our friends, to our neighbors,

00:05:54.340 whomever is in our big or small circle of influence, are clarity and courage.

00:06:00.800 So where are we?

00:06:02.140 What time is it?

00:06:03.180 And what should we be doing?

00:06:05.320 First, we will answer where we are.

00:06:07.540 This involves looking at where we are as a country, politically, ideologically, by looking

00:06:12.740 at a few big things happening that say a lot about this moment, Mamdani in New York, Maduro

00:06:19.700 in Venezuela, the Islamic Marxist alliance that no longer dominates just the left, but

00:06:26.520 is actually growing and influence a popularity on the right as well.

00:06:30.620 And then what time is it?

00:06:31.980 And this has a spiritual answer.

00:06:33.720 So we'll look at what this all means about the spiritual moment that we're in, and what

00:06:40.340 does God's Word say about all of this?

00:06:42.440 How should we be thinking about these issues that we're going through?

00:06:45.760 And then lastly, what is our role?

00:06:47.720 What should we be doing as Christians, as citizens, also as moms and wives and neighbors and friends,

00:06:53.840 church members?

00:06:55.240 Where are we?

00:06:56.380 What time is it?

00:06:57.480 What should we be doing?

00:06:58.540 So whether you are waking up from a two-week slumber because of Christmas break, or whether

00:07:04.320 you have spent your whole life unplugged from the goings-on of the world and what the truth

00:07:09.600 of God's Word says about them, it's time to wake up.

00:07:13.560 The verse that came to mind while preparing this segment was Ephesians 5.14.

00:07:19.220 Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.

00:07:24.840 You guys know, as I've said many times, that politics matter because policy matters because

00:07:30.380 people matter.

00:07:31.840 The ideas behind our politics affect our policy, which affects people.

00:07:38.120 Politics matter because policy matters because people matter to God and to us.

00:07:43.140 And so by me sharing that verse and infusing the Word of God into our political worldview is

00:07:50.200 not to make politics primary, but it is to say that it is an important aspect of our lives

00:07:56.420 because it affects the people that we are called to love.

00:07:59.840 So what we think about the issues that we're going through today, it really matters because

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00:09:54.820 Okay, this first question, where are we?

00:09:57.600 Well, we're in a place where Islam and Marxism are unabashedly allied to crush Western 0.89

00:10:04.980 civilization.

00:10:05.480 Now, I'll be honest.

00:10:07.420 I must have not had my finger on the pulse exactly when it came to socialism.

00:10:11.140 I thought that we were kind of done with that.

00:10:13.780 After Bernie Sanders didn't win the presidential primary and AOC, yes, she, of course, is still

00:10:20.320 in political power.

00:10:21.340 She still has some influence.

00:10:22.580 But her brand kind of fell out of vogue.

00:10:25.560 She wasn't as trendy anymore.

00:10:27.220 And you just didn't hear this word socialism or democratic socialism quite as much.

00:10:31.880 I did not realize that people were still buying this nonsense.

00:10:36.320 But here we are.

00:10:37.840 This combination of Islamic dominance and Marxism is actually embodied in one person. 0.92

00:10:45.140 And this is the new mayor of New York City.

00:10:47.380 His name is Zoran Mamdani.

00:10:49.680 He just celebrated his inauguration and gave this speech.

00:10:56.460 And it's troubling a lot of people, including me.

00:10:59.040 Stop one.

00:10:59.380 We will draw this city closer together.

00:11:02.920 We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.

00:11:09.040 All right.

00:11:09.780 We're going to hone in on that last line.

00:11:12.040 Mamdani was also sworn in on the Koran.

00:11:14.740 We'll get to the Islamic aspect of this in a second.

00:11:17.600 But first, let's focus on what he just said there.

00:11:21.060 The elevation of the ideology of collectivism, the warmth of collectivism, he said, which is

00:11:27.660 responsible for the deaths of at least 100 million people in the 20th century alone.

00:11:32.880 And I posted that on X and I posted it on Instagram and I got some people asking genuinely,

00:11:37.600 wait, what does that mean?

00:11:38.760 What is collectivism?

00:11:39.860 And what do you mean by saying that it's responsible for 100 million deaths in only the 1900s?

00:11:47.820 So let's break this down.

00:11:49.600 Collectivism is the umbrella term for communism, socialism, and I would even say fascism, because

00:11:55.720 all of these systems in their own ways prioritize the good of the group over the good of the

00:12:01.480 individual.

00:12:02.160 And maybe with that definition, you think, okay, that sounds good.

00:12:04.900 That sounds compassionate.

00:12:06.120 You're taking care of those who can't take care of themselves. 0.95

00:12:08.760 Maybe you even think that that sounds Christian.

00:12:10.960 But here's the catch.

00:12:13.000 The government gets to define what that good is.

00:12:16.620 And you as the individual do not get a say.

00:12:20.160 It's also not just for the benefit of the group at the expense of the benefit for the

00:12:26.680 individual, but it is also the rights, so-called, of the group at the expense of the rights of

00:12:33.920 the individual.

00:12:35.080 And if you don't understand exactly what that means, you don't have to take my word for it

00:12:39.960 in my description.

00:12:40.800 We can look at what collectivism actually has looked like tangibly throughout history,

00:12:45.780 and we don't have to go back that far.

00:12:47.340 If we look at, for example, communist Cambodia in the 1970s, Pol Pot imposed agrarian collectivism. 0.72

00:12:55.480 That means he abolished all private land ownership.

00:12:58.300 He forced people out of cities and into these rural communes.

00:13:02.220 He confiscated all money.

00:13:04.660 He shut down all markets.

00:13:06.160 He forced people to work in rice fields.

00:13:08.700 And this was to create what sounded very compassionate, very oppression-less, and that was a classless

00:13:15.720 oppression-less society.

00:13:17.000 And theoretically, there would be no more inequality.

00:13:20.060 There would be no more oppression of the poor because the rich guy wouldn't have more than

00:13:24.800 the little guy.

00:13:25.660 And this was to accomplish what they called a reset.

00:13:29.500 That probably sounds familiar if you've been listening to this podcast.

00:13:32.860 And an arrival at year zero, where the communists believed that they could start over and build 0.52

00:13:38.420 a new classless, oppression-less, opposition-less society where everyone would share and everyone

00:13:44.480 would be happy because everyone would have what they need.

00:13:48.200 And so to achieve this end, forcing people out of the cities, forcing them into these communes,

00:13:54.920 2 million Cambodians were killed.

00:13:57.140 25% of the population.

00:13:59.880 Hundreds of thousands died from starvation.

00:14:02.420 The communal farms didn't work.

00:14:04.520 They couldn't produce the food that was necessary.

00:14:06.580 Other hundreds of thousands were tortured to death.

00:14:09.900 They were murdered with pickaxes specifically because Khmer Rouge, the regime of Pol Pot, 0.66

00:14:15.320 wanted to save bullets.

00:14:16.960 The murders were so vast in Pol Pot's communist world that there were swaths of land dubbed 0.54

00:14:23.900 the killing fields.

00:14:25.460 Maybe you've heard of books about this, or maybe you've heard of the killing fields.

00:14:30.080 There are documentaries.

00:14:30.920 There are a lot of historical analyses of what was going on in these killing fields and how

00:14:38.480 horrific it is.

00:14:39.540 I just will give you a trigger warning.

00:14:42.460 If you're going to learn about this, you need to prepare yourself because it's not for

00:14:47.620 the faint of heart.

00:14:48.480 Children were kidnapped from families and forced to serve in the regime.

00:14:52.200 The slogan of Khmer Rouge was, to keep you is no gain and to lose you is no loss. 0.99

00:14:59.680 And that right there, that slogan typifies, it summarizes what the warmth of collectivism

00:15:07.480 is.

00:15:08.280 That is the warmth of collectivism.

00:15:10.380 That as long as the collective goal is being achieved in the eyes of the government, in

00:15:16.540 the eyes of the leader, the individual doesn't matter at all.

00:15:20.280 The country still has not fully recovered 50 years later.

00:15:24.740 That's what communism does.

00:15:26.360 That's what collectivism does, destroys.

00:15:28.840 And then if you look at China in the mid-20th century, China's communist leader, Mao Zedong,

00:15:33.300 set out to create this classless communist society again to alleviate the oppression that

00:15:41.300 came from inequality.

00:15:42.760 And so first he implemented land reform in which private land was seized from the evil

00:15:47.300 landlords and redistributed to peasants.

00:15:49.320 That actually is very familiar, very similar to a lot of the rhetoric that you hear from

00:15:54.420 someone like Zoran Mamdani, that these private landowners or these landlords are really the cause

00:16:00.980 and the source of the oppression, which of course is not true.

00:16:04.480 Now it sounds compassionate to redistribute land and property to peasants, but the landlords

00:16:10.180 were publicly tortured.

00:16:11.400 They were humiliated in what were called struggle sessions.

00:16:14.120 And these rituals were used not just for landlords as they were in the beginning, but they were

00:16:18.200 used for decades to shame Mao's political opposition.

00:16:21.160 I mean, people were literally put in the city center and they were flogged and they were shamed

00:16:25.920 and they were made fun of.

00:16:26.920 And they were tortured until they relented, until they said, okay, I support Mao or I relent

00:16:33.320 on whatever position I had that was not acceptable to the communist regime.

00:16:38.940 Many of these landlords were just outright executed, as was most of the political opposition.

00:16:44.560 There was a great leap forward in communist China of the late 50s and early 60s that attempted 0.79

00:16:49.560 to turn China from agrarian to industrial.

00:16:52.680 And this meant abolishing all private farming and turning all farming communal, much like

00:16:57.300 Cambodia.

00:16:58.340 And this was collective forced labor to produce the food that would then be distributed to

00:17:03.160 all who needed it.

00:17:04.660 Of course, it didn't work.

00:17:05.620 40 million people died from starvation.

00:17:08.220 This was actually the deadliest famine in human history.

00:17:11.340 The deadliest famine in human history was because of communism.

00:17:14.360 It wasn't the Irish potato famine.

00:17:16.360 It wasn't some famine in the Middle Ages or in biblical times.

00:17:19.960 The deadliest famine in all of human history happened in the 1960s in China because of communism,

00:17:26.440 because of the warmth of collectivism.

00:17:29.400 Mao's cultural revolution from the 60s to the 70s recruited kids into the Red Guard, which

00:17:35.580 was responsible for murdering all those that were perceived as the enemies of communism.

00:17:39.640 And so all in all, scholars estimate that up to 80 million people were murdered or died as

00:17:47.080 a result of Mao's policies in those 27 years of his reign.

00:17:51.900 That is the warmth of collectivism.

00:17:53.960 And we could go on and on.

00:17:55.900 Lenin and Stalin's Russia, which forced collectivism and abolished individualism and killed about 20

00:18:01.300 million people.

00:18:02.420 Mugabe, Zimbabwe, which promised liberation from the colonizer and redistribution of wealth

00:18:07.860 from the rich to the poor via forced collectivism and has irreparably plummeted a once wealthy

00:18:13.100 country into poverty and oppression.

00:18:14.900 The Philippines, Germany, so many others.

00:18:17.740 When you push collectivism, people die.

00:18:20.900 It's not better.

00:18:22.200 Not for anyone ever in any way.

00:18:24.880 It is evil.

00:18:26.240 It sounds good because it's sold via toxic empathy.

00:18:31.420 Look at this poor person and this rich person.

00:18:34.440 Don't you want to fight for the little guy?

00:18:35.900 Isn't it unfair that this rich guy has so much and this little guy has so little?

00:18:40.980 Isn't it unfair that you struggle while your landlord is getting rich by charging you so

00:18:47.740 much rent?

00:18:48.180 Wouldn't it feel good to take from this rich, powerful guy and give to the little guy?

00:18:52.260 It sounds good, but it doesn't work ever.

00:18:56.040 And that's exactly why two of the big Ten Commandments have to do with the legitimacy of private

00:19:03.480 property or that's part of why God says in two of the Ten Commandments, you shall not

00:19:08.360 steal and not only that, but you shall not covet.

00:19:11.040 So not only do you not have the right to what someone else has, you can't even want what

00:19:14.760 someone else has.

00:19:15.620 It's not yours. 0.78

00:19:17.320 Now, did Israel have an obligation to care for the poor?

00:19:19.840 Yes.

00:19:20.180 The foreigner? 0.70

00:19:20.600 Yes, but not through the abolition of private property and forced communal labor.

00:19:25.000 By the way, I find it interesting that the progressives who like to cite and misrepresent

00:19:30.780 the Old Testament rules about helping the needy are not at all interested in the Old Testament

00:19:35.300 rules when it comes to homosexuality and immigration and things like that.

00:19:39.100 They also cite the early church and they'll say this was communism.

00:19:41.600 But the early church in Acts gave what they had to one another and had, quote, all things

00:19:45.920 in common.

00:19:46.580 But they did so voluntarily.

00:19:48.980 They were not forced to give up the property at gunpoint by the government, which is what

00:19:52.280 collectivism is.

00:19:53.420 They were empowered by the Holy Spirit to do so.

00:19:55.480 That's the only way this works.

00:19:58.060 Work and production and earning what you have are biblical ideas.

00:20:02.520 Adam was placed in the garden to relax?

00:20:06.060 No, to work and to keep it.

00:20:08.200 Genesis 2.15.

00:20:09.480 The curse was not work.

00:20:11.860 The curse was working and producing nothing.

00:20:14.440 Proverbs praises diligence and condemns not working, saying a slack hand causes poverty.

00:20:20.900 Proverbs 10.4.

00:20:22.280 2 Thessalonians 3.10 condemns slothfulness, insisting that one who is not willing, not

00:20:28.080 unable, but not willing to work, shouldn't even eat.

00:20:30.780 Generosity is a biblical idea, but generosity by nature is not forced.

00:20:35.660 You paying taxes is not generous.

00:20:37.940 If you don't, you'll go to jail.

00:20:39.980 So that's not generosity.

00:20:41.080 2 Corinthians 9.7 says that God loves a cheerful giver, not one who gives because they're forced

00:20:47.300 to under compulsion.

00:20:49.020 So there's nothing biblical about collectivism.

00:20:52.560 It steals, it kills, it destroys.

00:20:55.060 Who does that sound like?

00:20:56.760 Now, what about individualism?

00:20:59.060 Individualism is the idea that you are responsible for your actions, your future, and that through

00:21:03.520 hard work you can succeed.

00:21:04.960 This is not to be confused with selfishness or self-centeredness, however, which says that

00:21:11.060 the individual's desires and ambitions always matter more than anyone else's needs.

00:21:15.840 That's not good either.

00:21:17.320 The foundational American belief, which is a biblical belief, is that the individual matters

00:21:23.280 in and of himself, that he has incredible value because he is a person and people are

00:21:28.100 made by a creator who, as our Declaration of Independence states, has given us the rights

00:21:32.960 to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property that no government can arbitrarily take away,

00:21:38.180 not in the name of power, not in the name of compassion, not in the name of vengeance,

00:21:42.740 not in the name of anything.

00:21:44.620 We also believe in the individual's ability to chart his own path, to take ownership of his

00:21:50.080 or her life, to start a family, to work hard, and to really, truly own what he has,

00:21:55.380 not just rent it from the government.

00:21:56.860 We don't negate the importance of shared values as a nation.

00:22:00.760 They're actually necessary for us to function.

00:22:02.900 We do have to have some sort of collective value system.

00:22:06.780 We don't negate the necessity of community and church and family.

00:22:09.900 In fact, I love this quote by Milton Friedman, the economist.

00:22:13.880 He said, the family, rather than the individual, has always been and remains today the basic

00:22:19.540 building block of our society.

00:22:22.900 Collectivism not only diminishes the individual, it attempts to replace the family.

00:22:26.860 Whether it's Pol Pot or Stalin or Hitler, every collectivist dictator attempts to weaken the

00:22:32.840 family because the dad-mom-child entity is so perfectly designed by God as a bulwark against

00:22:39.220 predators, whether in the government or otherwise.

00:22:41.540 The weaker ones are protected by the stronger, the woman nurturing the child and tempering the 1.00

00:22:46.740 man, the man fighting for and protecting the woman and child.

00:22:50.180 Christianity, therefore, is inherently problematic for tyrants, especially the collectivist kind, 0.93

00:22:58.960 because of its reliance on the cohesion of the family, but also because of its insistence

00:23:04.200 upon worshiping God, not the government, relying on the church, not the state, working for and

00:23:08.880 earning what you have and taking care of those in need yourself rather than stealing what is

00:23:14.660 needed from others via politicians.

00:23:17.280 Christianity is and should be a boil on the back of dictators. 0.99

00:23:21.880 We should be an obstacle to those who wish to do harm to the most vulnerable.

00:23:27.480 That has been our history.

00:23:29.440 You should read the Gulag Archipelago, and you'll learn about the warmth of collectivism

00:23:36.140 and how Christianity stood against tyranny in the 20th century.

00:23:41.180 That is our legacy.

00:23:42.320 That is our history, and it still has to be today.

00:23:44.520 From Nero to Newsom, from Mussolini to Mamdani, Christ reigns. 0.97

00:23:51.220 And Christians, simply by being Christians, have to live that out with clarity and courage.

00:23:57.240 From the 7th century, when Islam was established, to today, for 1,300 years, Christianity has 0.91

00:24:04.840 had to defend itself for 2,000 years, not only against tyrants, but 1,300 years also against

00:24:11.500 the attacks of Islamists.

00:24:13.740 And for some reason, some people think that things are different now.

00:24:19.280 They're not.

00:24:20.680 The mayor of an American city putting his hand on the Quran for his swearing in is not a 0.76

00:24:25.260 positive or neutral sign.

00:24:26.880 It is a sign that we are being conquered by this Islamist, Marxist machine and regime. 0.98

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00:25:42.460 Here is Mamdani being sworn in on the Quran in New York City.

00:25:54.800 This is, NYC, America's biggest city.

00:25:59.680 In many ways, it is the hub of American industry and at one time, the crown jewel of American life.

00:26:05.280 Like New York City is often what people abroad think about exclusively when they think about America.

00:26:10.260 It's like New York, Texas, alligators, beach.

00:26:14.000 It is, whether we like it or not, the international representation of America's brand, which is exactly why, of course, on September 11th, 2001, Al Qaeda, a Muslim terrorist group, targeted New York City in an attack that killed 2,753 people.

00:26:31.500 And this was the deadliest attack on our soil.

00:26:33.960 It tops Pearl Harbor.

00:26:35.340 It tops the Oklahoma City bombing and every other act of aggression on American land since the Civil War. 0.96

00:26:40.700 This was mass murder, and it was committed by Muslims who hate America and hate the West and hate Christians and Jews, what bin Laden called the Zionist Crusader Alliance, and they felt that it was their duty to Allah to kill as many Americans as possible. 0.77

00:26:56.020 And that was only 24 and a half years ago. 0.94

00:26:58.120 And now here we are in that very, very place, allowing that very ideology to gain power and prominence in New York and throughout the country.

00:27:06.980 Now, listen, am I saying that Mumdani is in any way responsible for that?

00:27:13.880 No, he's not.

00:27:14.920 And he shouldn't be held responsible for that.

00:27:16.920 We don't believe in generational responsibility and collective punishment.

00:27:21.180 No Muslim is responsible for what another Muslim does, just as no Christian or no white person or no Chinese person, etc., is responsible for the actions of someone who shares their creed or skin color or nationality.

00:27:32.700 We've talked many times about the definition of justice, according to the God who created justice.

00:27:39.060 When we look at God's law giving to Israel, we see what legal justice is, and it is, among other things, direct. 0.51

00:27:46.620 No one bears the punishment for what their father did.

00:27:48.680 Ezekiel 18.20 says,

00:27:51.120 The soul who sins shall die.

00:27:52.840 The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son.

00:27:59.480 But that's not the argument for the warning against Islam.

00:28:02.100 The argument is that Islam as a religion is inherently violent, inherently imperialistic, inherently conquest-driven, inherently at odds with Christianity, inherently at odds with the Constitution, because it is necessarily theocratic. 0.97

00:28:17.180 Islam means submission, and the goal of Islam is to make Islamic nations, in which Sharia is implemented and all infidels and blasphemers are put to death. 1.00

00:28:26.800 And in that world, there's no free speech. 0.90

00:28:29.520 There's no freedom of religion. 0.95

00:28:30.960 There's no First and Second Amendment.

00:28:32.460 There's no rugged individualism.

00:28:34.880 When Charlie Kirk said that Islamic ideology and the Constitution are incompatible, this is what he meant. 0.74

00:28:40.820 It's not about demonizing individual Muslims who can be kind neighbors and friends.

00:28:45.640 Of course, this is about the belief system as a whole.

00:28:49.360 And before I give an example of that, I do also just want to point out here, this headline is from Fox News.

00:28:56.080 Mamdani Tapp's controversial lawyer who defended al-Qaeda terrorist for top role and called him a powerful advocate.

00:29:04.740 Ramzi Kassem's record also includes serving as a top advisor for immigration on the White House Domestic Policy Council during the Biden admin.

00:29:12.000 And so al-Qaeda, the group responsible for the largest terrorist attack, mass murder on American soil just about 25 years ago, the guy who defended them, one of the attorneys who defended them, is now in a position of power in New York City thanks to Zoran Mamdani.

00:29:35.340 I think that's worth noting, and again, that goes to show that Islam is not apologetic as a whole about those things that have happened, but they understand that this is simply a part of the process of jihad and Islamic dominance. 0.87

00:29:53.780 Here are two scholars, Muslim scholars, on Patrick Bette-David's show confirming to an ex-Muslim that in a Sharia-run country, which is the goal, that he would be put to death. 0.99

00:30:05.860 Saten.

00:30:06.720 In a proper Islamic jurisdiction, an Islamic nation, all of the laws of Islam and the Sharia as revealed by God should be applied.

00:30:18.700 So if we were in that kind of state, would you do it?

00:30:20.920 Including, including, with proper due process, with a proper court hearing, just like any nation of laws, the laws of the Sharia should be applied, including the death penalty for not only apostates, but also blasphemers. 0.96

00:30:35.680 You did answer me, yes or no?

00:30:37.600 We did answer you.

00:30:38.160 Yes, we did answer you. 1.00

00:30:38.800 So I should be killed. 0.99

00:30:40.520 We did answer your question. 1.00

00:30:41.100 I deserve to be killed because I left Islam and became a Christian. 1.00

00:30:44.640 According to Islamic law, an apostate like you would be killed, yes. 1.00

00:30:48.020 Okay, thank you. 0.92

00:30:48.680 Well, at least you'd get due process. 0.98

00:30:52.460 At least there'd be a judge and a jury in the United States' stand that could confirm whether or not you had blasphemed by being a Christian and then you would get put to death. 0.97

00:31:06.460 And these, by the way, those kind of scholars are considered like the moderate types and they're acknowledging what the goal is.

00:31:14.260 And this is the ideology of the people who have taken positions of power in Michigan and Minnesota and New York and London and Belgium and Paris.

00:31:21.320 I'm not saying that they all believe exactly that, but this is the ideology.

00:31:27.640 It's the ideology responsible for ramming through Christmas markets across Europe, for murdering cartoonists who insult Mohammed, and for the lion's share of the world's terrorism, for the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria and throughout the Middle East. 0.60

00:31:39.780 This is not Islamophobia. Phobia means an irrational fear.

00:31:43.860 This is rational. This is a justified concern.

00:31:46.460 This is looking at the last 1,300 years of Islam and noticing the unmistakable pattern that the Islamic belief system cannot peacefully coexist with Christian Western civilization for very long. 0.99

00:31:56.740 But you've got some people on the right, quite suddenly, to me, from my perspective, who are asserting that it is actually hatred of Muslims to point this out.

00:32:06.220 You've got Tucker Carlson, someone that I have been a huge fan of for many years and who have admired, I've admired him for many years.

00:32:13.340 I'm sure I still agree with him on a lot of things.

00:32:15.120 But he was interviewed by an outlet called the American Conservative, and he was asked about his condemnation of, quote, Islamophobia in his AmericaFest speech.

00:32:24.140 And just to give you some context, here's part of that speech thought, too.

00:32:27.800 What you're watching now, attacking people on the attacking millions of Americans because they're Muslims. 0.99

00:32:33.820 It's disgusting. 0.99

00:32:35.540 And I'm a Christian. I'm not a Muslim. 0.99

00:32:37.140 I'm never. I know there's a lot of effort to claim I'm a secret jihadi.

00:32:39.340 I'm not. You should not attack people on those grounds.

00:32:43.620 And you're seeing it from Republicans.

00:32:44.800 What the hell are you doing?

00:32:46.340 What you're doing is trying to divide the country. 1.00

00:32:48.940 And I've lived through 50 years of this crap. 0.99

00:32:51.180 All these fake race wars that they're always promoting. 1.00

00:32:54.580 Oh, go hate each other while we loot the Treasury.

00:32:57.040 That's exactly what's going on.

00:32:58.580 And most people are totally sick of that.

00:33:01.700 OK, I really want to respond to that.

00:33:03.620 But let me keep going with his explanation and the American Conservative and then I'll respond.

00:33:08.180 So he told this to this journalist at Amcon. 0.91

00:33:12.420 He said, how is hating all Muslims better than hating all Jews? 0.55

00:33:15.960 And the answer, obviously, is it's not. 0.97

00:33:18.700 And does that mean hating their children?

00:33:20.240 Do we have to hate their children?

00:33:21.460 I guess we do.

00:33:22.400 Their ancestors, their grandchildren. 0.92

00:33:23.820 The whole thing is disgusting. 0.98

00:33:24.980 First of all, Christians aren't supposed to hate anybody. 0.98

00:33:27.540 I certainly hated a lot of people.

00:33:29.280 I'm not judging.

00:33:30.020 We may disapprove of people as individuals, but we can't start holding their children responsible for their crimes or else we're done.

00:33:35.140 And then he goes on to say, I know a lot of Muslims who are deeply humane and good people.

00:33:39.180 I've just traveled a lot and I've never taken a dollar from a Muslim, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:33:43.940 He said, clean conscience, thinking that every Muslim is Osama bin Laden.

00:33:48.420 Like, you just don't know anything.

00:33:50.180 And why don't you sit this one out?

00:33:51.880 So, okay, Turning Point asked its attendees at AmFest whether their top concern for the country is, and the top answer was radical Islam.

00:34:06.400 So, Tucker was asked about this in this interview, and he said that this idea, being fearful of radical Islam and this big top concern about it,

00:34:15.760 he says, it comes from the Israeli government.

00:34:18.300 I don't know anyone in the United States in the last 24 years who has been killed by radical Islam.

00:34:24.800 I know people who have died because of drug ODs, and then he goes on to list some other things like DEI that are affecting the country.

00:34:31.040 Okay, here's my response to this.

00:34:32.540 First, that's a false choice right there.

00:34:34.560 That's a logical fallacy because we don't have to choose.

00:34:37.340 He's presenting a choice.

00:34:38.560 Like, we have to choose between caring about radical Islam and caring about ODs from fentanyl and DEI.

00:34:45.980 I care about both of those things a lot because I care about people.

00:34:49.500 I care about vulnerable people.

00:34:50.780 So, I care about both of those injustices.

00:34:53.260 We can care about both, and we should.

00:34:55.240 So, I'm not sure why it's presented as, like, a necessary choice.

00:34:57.880 It's not.

00:34:58.320 That's a false binary.

00:34:59.140 Second, if I found out that Islam, that radical Islam, was just a psychological operation by the Israeli government, I would be thrilled. 1.00

00:35:12.180 Like, if you told me that Nigerian Christians and Ugandan Christians aren't really being kidnapped and murdered by Islamic terrorists, 0.97

00:35:19.560 that Germany is actually able to celebrate Christmas publicly in safety, 0.76

00:35:23.780 that France doesn't actually have to put up blockades for public events because of Muslims ramming vans into crowds, 1.00

00:35:30.560 that the Middle East is actually a safe place to travel as a Christian woman, 0.99

00:35:34.020 and that England hasn't been infested with Islamic child rape gangs, 0.95

00:35:38.080 that two U.S. service members weren't just murdered in D.C. in November by a man screaming Allahu Akbar, 0.93

00:35:45.220 that TSA isn't really necessary because Al-Qaeda crashed planes into the Pentagon and the Twin Towers,

00:35:51.100 that none of that is real,

00:35:52.720 and that I can just rest easy knowing that it's all just an Israeli op. 0.85

00:35:58.220 Wow, that would be great news.

00:36:01.340 But it's not true.

00:36:03.460 No, the real psychological operation, the real psyop,

00:36:08.660 is always don't believe your eyes and ears.

00:36:12.100 Don't notice.

00:36:13.880 Focus on this secret thing over here that only I can really see and show you.

00:36:18.180 It's like when the government a couple of years ago tried to tell us that the number one source of terrorism

00:36:23.040 is from right-wing white supremacists, and we're all like,

00:36:26.740 what?

00:36:27.800 Wouldn't I have heard about this?

00:36:29.080 Like, wouldn't Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid be telling me these stories if this was something that was really happening?

00:36:35.600 But the government was like, don't believe your eyes and ears.

00:36:38.020 Don't believe what you see.

00:36:39.280 It's really the secret group over here that we have secret intelligence about.

00:36:42.760 It's like some kind of form of sophisticated Gnosticism.

00:36:47.640 Tucker, like I said, I think that he has been so right and first and right on so many things over the years,

00:36:55.220 and I've really respected that.

00:36:56.420 I just believe he's so wrong on this.

00:36:58.720 He is also wrong specifically about the casualties when it comes to Islam,

00:37:05.160 and we'll get into that in just a second.

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00:38:20.360 Let's talk about some of the statistics about the victims of Islamic terror. 0.72

00:38:30.220 Let's go through just a few.

00:38:31.640 This is according to CBS, PBS rather.

00:38:34.680 In 2002, a Los Angeles International Airport shooting,

00:38:39.040 two people were killed and four wounded by an Egyptian immigrant motivated by anti-Israel hatred

00:38:44.780 and jihadist ideology.

00:38:46.860 2006, UNC Chapel Hill SUV attack.

00:38:49.580 Nine people injured, thankfully none fatally,

00:38:52.640 by an Iran native who intentionally drove an SUV into a crowd on campus

00:38:57.620 to avenge the deaths of Muslims worldwide.

00:39:00.080 That's according to NBC.

00:39:01.080 In 2006, Seattle Jewish Federation shooting,

00:39:04.560 one person killed, five wounded by a citizen, a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent,

00:39:10.840 who declared himself a, quote, Muslim American angry at Israel.

00:39:15.820 In 2009, the Little Rock office shooting,

00:39:18.240 one person killed and one person wounded by an American-born convert to Islam

00:39:22.240 who claimed inspiration from jihadist ideology had ties to al-Qaeda.

00:39:26.620 That's according to CNN.

00:39:28.220 2009, Fort Hood shooting.

00:39:29.660 14 people, including an unborn child, killed,

00:39:33.400 32 wounded by an American-born army major of Palestinian descent

00:39:36.620 who communicated with a preacher linked to al-Qaeda.

00:39:40.400 2013, Boston Marathon bombing.

00:39:43.420 Not that long ago.

00:39:45.220 Four people killed and more than 260 wounded by Islamist brothers.

00:39:51.300 2015, Chattanooga shootings.

00:39:53.180 Five people killed and two wounded by a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Kuwait

00:39:57.160 who killed five people inspired by, quote, foreign terrorist propaganda, according to FBI and CNN.

00:40:04.700 2015, San Bernardino shooting.

00:40:06.620 14 people killed.

00:40:07.540 21 wounded by a guy who pledged allegiance to ISIS.

00:40:12.940 This was actually by a married couple.

00:40:14.460 2016, Pulse nightclub shooting.

00:40:17.040 49 people killed.

00:40:18.760 At least 66 wounded at an Orlando nightclub by an American-born-to-Afghan parents who pledged allegiance to ISIS.

00:40:25.420 2017, New York City truck attack.

00:40:27.640 Eight people killed.

00:40:28.380 12 wounded by a guy who provided material support to ISIS.

00:40:33.680 2019, Pensacola Naval Air Station shooting.

00:40:36.080 Three people killed.

00:40:36.920 Eight wounded by a Saudi Air Force lieutenant training in the U.S. linked to al-Qaeda.

00:40:42.200 2025, New Orleans Bourbon Street truck attack.

00:40:45.080 14 people killed.

00:40:46.580 At least 57 wounded by a Texan Army veteran and convert to Islam.

00:40:51.520 An ISIS flag was displayed on the vehicle.

00:40:55.220 But also, in 2014, this one is really important.

00:41:00.260 There was an American journalist by the name of Stephen Sotloff.

00:41:04.120 He was captured by ISIS in Syria and he was beheaded.

00:41:07.980 ISIS released a video showing Sotloff's murder.

00:41:10.540 Sotloff was a writer for the Daily Caller.

00:41:12.940 That was an outlet that Tucker Carlson co-founded in 2010.

00:41:19.200 So that is simply objectively not true.

00:41:24.880 I'm not sure how the Israeli government could be responsible for a psychological operation

00:41:32.120 that simply involves using our eyes.

00:41:36.160 Now, Tucker is right that Christians are called to love our neighbors.

00:41:40.460 We are called to want the best for them.

00:41:43.160 However, it is never loving to lie.

00:41:47.080 It is not loving to stay silent about evil ideologies like Islam. 1.00

00:41:52.420 Even though there are Islamic neighbors and friends whose maybe contributions to our community, 0.99

00:42:00.760 we value.

00:42:01.940 Romans 12, 9.

00:42:03.040 Let love be genuine.

00:42:05.160 Abhor what is evil.

00:42:06.320 Hold fast to what is good.

00:42:08.300 Ephesians 5, 11.

00:42:09.400 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

00:42:13.900 Matthew 7, 15.

00:42:15.040 Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

00:42:19.220 1 John 4, 1.

00:42:21.360 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,

00:42:25.120 for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

00:42:30.680 And so, Christians are called to never rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoice with the truth.

00:42:36.520 Love is inextricably intertwined with the truth.

00:42:39.480 And if you listen to my conversation with Raymond Ibrahim, who has been studying and writing

00:42:44.540 about the history of Islam for many decades now, he will tell you that the motivation behind

00:42:51.280 the Christian soldiers throughout history who fought against the predation of Islam was

00:42:57.380 actually agape love.

00:42:59.180 It was not conquest.

00:43:00.140 It was a desire to protect the women and children who could not defend themselves.

00:43:04.880 The first Barbary war in America was not fought because of conquest, but to protect America,

00:43:11.740 our freedoms, our women and children against the predation of Islam. 1.00

00:43:16.860 And so, this very weak form of Christianity, which is not at all bothered by evil, and is 0.92

00:43:25.300 not at all bothered by the slaughter of vulnerable Christians elsewhere, and can't name the ideology

00:43:32.440 for fear of being called some kind of bigot or phobe.

00:43:35.620 That is not the Christianity throughout history that has been the boil on the back of tyrants 0.91

00:43:41.680 and is pushed back against the dictatorships that have harmed vulnerable people throughout

00:43:46.560 history.

00:43:47.200 It's just not.

00:43:48.400 It is completely unfamiliar to the saints that have gone before us.

00:43:53.880 But also, we see different forms of Islam and its pervasiveness in our country. 1.00

00:44:01.360 It's not only about the casualties that we have seen.

00:44:04.580 It is also through mass migration, high levels of fraud in places like the Minnesota government.

00:44:14.640 And we don't have time to get into this entire story, but I just want to give this example.

00:44:19.080 And I think Tucker would probably would agree.

00:44:21.640 I think he stays solid when it comes to immigration.

00:44:25.060 That when you import the third world, especially when you import a particular ideology that is 0.98

00:44:31.620 hostile to the constitution, you bring not only risk of violence and risk of physical casualties,

00:44:37.800 but you also bring in risk of corruption.

00:44:42.940 And when we look at the Somali population in Minnesota, we see through this stunning report

00:44:49.140 that it is rife with fraud.

00:44:51.960 We talked about last month, some of the fraud problems happening, but now we have this independent

00:44:57.660 journalist named Nick Shirley, who released a video titled, I Investigated Minnesota's Billion

00:45:02.720 Dollar Fraud Scandal.

00:45:04.340 He released this the day after Christmas in which he and a fellow investigator visited multiple

00:45:08.500 daycare facilities in the Somali community that were receiving federal funding while appearing

00:45:13.760 to be inactive.

00:45:15.140 No children were actually present.

00:45:17.600 And this video went hugely viral, prompted federal authorities to launch their own investigations

00:45:23.960 and to freeze child care funding to Minnesota until the state sends a list of providers and

00:45:28.960 parents who receive federal child care.

00:45:30.560 We're talking millions and millions of taxpayer dollars.

00:45:33.600 Hardworking people in Minnesota are paying this money because they've been told, look, we got

00:45:38.240 to help children.

00:45:38.900 We got to help these refugee communities.

00:45:40.540 We got to help these vulnerable people.

00:45:42.700 So, so support this program via, so this is toxic empathy being fed to the masses.

00:45:49.340 No one wants to be the person to stand up and say, I think we should give less money to the

00:45:53.840 special needs kids from Somalia.

00:45:55.560 No one wants to be that person.

00:45:57.400 No one wants to say, I think we're maybe giving too much money to poor daycare workers.

00:46:03.020 Like no one wants to be that person because everyone wants to be perceived as empathetic.

00:46:06.880 And it's just easier to just hand over your money, to not ask where it's going, and to

00:46:12.340 just feel like a good person because you want to believe the stated intentions of politicians.

00:46:17.120 It makes you feel good.

00:46:18.520 And it also, I think, is an excuse for a lot of people to not give to charity themselves

00:46:23.420 and to not actually embody virtue themselves because they can kind of outsource their compassion

00:46:29.980 to politicians.

00:46:30.940 And it's much more uncomfortable to ask these questions and possibly get in trouble and possibly

00:46:37.100 look like a bad person.

00:46:39.800 So this is President Trump.

00:46:41.980 He said on January 1st, Somalians are ripping off our country to the tune of, it looks like 1.00

00:46:45.380 $19 billion.

00:46:47.020 And that's only what they can find.

00:46:48.840 Every one of them should be forced to leave this country, including Ilhan Omar, who's a 0.99

00:46:52.020 total crook. 0.99

00:46:52.840 We're not going to pay it anymore. 0.98

00:46:54.220 I mean, she probably did allegedly commit immigration fraud to come to this country. 1.00

00:46:58.980 So I think that's legit.

00:47:00.040 So President Trump says, we're not going to pay it anymore.

00:47:04.080 We'll see what's done.

00:47:05.180 I think everyone would like to see some action.

00:47:08.080 What does repatriation look like?

00:47:10.360 Like, can we care about where our tax dollars go?

00:47:13.420 Because you'll remember the likes of people like David French and Russell Moore and others

00:47:20.280 criticizing Doge that, oh no, we're taking money from these programs that are supposed

00:47:25.220 to, it's supposed to cure cancer. 0.67

00:47:26.500 It's supposed to help these poor kids in Africa.

00:47:28.800 We're just, again, supposed to believe the stated intentions and never look at the outcomes.

00:47:32.820 And we're never supposed to care about where our money is going.

00:47:35.480 Apparently that makes you a bad person.

00:47:37.320 But the money could actually be going in a direction that's good.

00:47:40.760 It could actually be going in a direction that's beneficial.

00:47:42.960 I think I trust you all as the American people to do a better job of sending your money to

00:47:49.400 the right place than I trust the government because you got corruption like this.

00:47:54.360 And no one wants to say anything because these Somalian communities vote Democrat.

00:47:57.980 And if you can get 100,000 people to vote your way, then most politicians are going to do

00:48:05.820 whatever it takes.

00:48:07.080 And that's the thing with the Democratic Party.

00:48:08.940 They can use toxic empathy to convince people to give them more and more tax dollars and

00:48:12.220 more and more money.

00:48:13.200 And then they are able to then buy off entire communities and use that to enrich themselves.

00:48:18.120 And so everyone benefits, except for you, the conservative Christian who is just trying 0.81

00:48:25.660 to run a business and raise a family and do right by others and do right by God. 0.99

00:48:30.660 You get screwed. 0.98

00:48:32.200 But if you care about this, Tim Wall says it's white supremacy. 1.00

00:48:35.620 Stop five.

00:48:36.680 This is what happens when your own federal government wages war against you.

00:48:40.080 This is what happens when they target communities for their own benefit.

00:48:43.580 This is what happens when they scapegoat.

00:48:45.360 And this is what happens when they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy.

00:48:49.520 When you hear the vice president of the United States talk about now white people won't have

00:48:53.400 to apologize for being white.

00:48:57.000 OK, he's like mixing up a bunch of things and has a bunch of projection there.

00:49:03.100 But apparently this is mixed together with white supremacy.

00:49:06.740 But today is not a great day for Tim Walls because he has decided to drop out of Minnesota's

00:49:13.060 governor race.

00:49:13.920 We see this from Daily Wire.

00:49:17.200 This is amid fraud allegations.

00:49:18.940 I mean, he has been trying for the past few weeks to say, oh, this is not really a problem.

00:49:24.660 Actually, this is a problem, but it's not Somalians. 1.00

00:49:27.640 And that's what they do.

00:49:28.980 They just change the goalposts.

00:49:31.960 He said political actors are taking advantage of this crisis. 0.97

00:49:36.800 The crisis is manufactured by your incompetent and corrupt leadership. 0.92

00:49:42.520 But he blames President Trump. 0.84

00:49:44.060 He said Donald Trump and his allies in Washington, D.C. in St. Paul.

00:49:47.820 Does Donald Trump have a bunch of allies in St. Paul?

00:49:50.580 I didn't know that.

00:49:52.220 And online want to make our state a colder, meaner place.

00:49:57.140 No, like we just want daycare centers to take care of kids.

00:50:01.360 Is that crazy?

00:50:03.580 Does that make us white supremacists that I just want people who work really hard and

00:50:08.380 give a portion of their paycheck to the government?

00:50:10.880 I want them to be able to trust that that money is going in a direction that really matters.

00:50:15.640 I think most people in Minnesota would be fine with a portion of their paycheck going to take

00:50:20.440 care of true refugees or going to take care of children. 0.99

00:50:23.620 But when it's going to pay fraudsters and to keep empty buildings warm, like that's a problem,

00:50:32.780 right?

00:50:33.020 That really shouldn't be political.

00:50:35.000 But he demonizes right wing YouTubers.

00:50:38.340 Well, it took a right wing YouTuber to expose the truth.

00:50:42.300 And that right wing YouTuber simply used his skills and called for transparency and kicked

00:50:52.740 you out of the race.

00:50:54.420 So good job, Nick Shirley.

00:50:56.480 Good job, right wing YouTubers and influencers.

00:51:01.280 You can try to belittle that all you want to, but that changed the trajectory of Minnesota.

00:51:05.860 Now, he could be replaced by someone worse.

00:51:08.980 I don't know.

00:51:09.580 But Minnesota, like if you can get it together, if Donald Trump can get it together and actually

00:51:13.960 get the bad actors out of here, then maybe Minnesota can switch over. 1.00

00:51:18.680 It's become a very corrupt state.

00:51:20.100 It's a very beautiful state.

00:51:21.280 And there's a lot of good people there, just like California and Washington and Oregon.

00:51:25.300 It's filled with so many good people.

00:51:26.880 And it is just captured by these far left immigrant communities and by Democrat politicians

00:51:34.160 turning a blind eye to fraud, whether for votes or campaign funding or via toxic empathy to

00:51:43.380 feel like a good like anti-racist ally and to cast Muslims as oppressed victims is wrong.

00:51:52.480 This is calling evil good and good evil.

00:51:57.080 This is refusing to see the truth and to say the truth because it's politically expedient

00:52:02.940 and you are motivated by a hatred of conservatives or a hatred of Donald Trump that you won't

00:52:08.860 even just say that lying is bad and stealing is bad.

00:52:12.400 That's where we are.

00:52:13.920 And that's not the place that Christians should be. 1.00

00:52:16.220 Proverbs 24, 11 through 12.

00:52:17.660 Rescue those who are being taken away to death.

00:52:19.540 Hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.

00:52:21.100 If you say, behold, we did not know this, does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?

00:52:26.180 Does not he who keeps the watch over your soul know it?

00:52:28.700 And will he not repay man according to his work?

00:52:31.820 James 4, 17.

00:52:32.980 So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

00:52:40.680 All right.

00:52:41.360 We've got just a couple of things to say about what's going on with Maduro and Venezuela in

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00:54:06.960 Okay, so I have a little bit of an exciting announcement.

00:54:10.840 We are twice a month going to have my dad host his own episode.

00:54:16.060 That is in addition to the three episodes a week that you are getting from me.

00:54:21.000 Two Saturdays a month, you will get to hear from my dad.

00:54:24.040 And he will break finances down to you, what's going on with the economy, what's going on

00:54:29.340 politically, how political processes work.

00:54:31.820 You guys ask me a lot of good questions.

00:54:34.080 And my dad is so good at very calmly breaking things down, telling us that it's going to be

00:54:39.540 okay, offering fatherly advice and wisdom.

00:54:42.760 And I've just been so touched by so many of you.

00:54:45.540 You either lost your father or you didn't have a present father or you live far away from

00:54:52.000 your father and you were just kind of like missing that presence in your life.

00:54:56.600 And I love that my dad has been able to kind of fill that gap for a lot of you while also

00:55:01.580 just filling the gap of understanding that maybe many of us have about history or politics

00:55:05.680 or whatever it is.

00:55:07.300 So that said, you can look forward to that.

00:55:09.640 I think the first one's going to be this Saturday.

00:55:11.380 I'll check on that.

00:55:12.120 And then I'll tell you, um, on Wednesday's episode for sure, but he is going to be talking

00:55:17.500 more about what's happening with Maduro and Venezuela and why Trump did what he did and

00:55:25.560 what the defense is for it.

00:55:27.100 But let me just tell you a little bit about what happened because I do feel responsible

00:55:30.480 to tell you something about this huge news item, but then he will break it down even more.

00:55:36.120 So on Saturday, January 3rd, President Trump announced the capture of Venezuelan leader

00:55:40.980 Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores, during an overnight U.S. military operation

00:55:46.240 in Caracas known as Operation Absolute Resolve.

00:55:50.120 The raid involving special operations forces and over 150 aircraft for cover resulted in no

00:55:55.960 U.S. casualties.

00:55:57.120 Praise God.

00:55:58.160 The couple was taken from a fortified compound to face 2020 U.S. charges, including narco-terrorism

00:56:05.220 and drug trafficking.

00:56:06.580 So from Venezuela, we're getting all kinds of drugs, fentanyl, cocaine.

00:56:10.940 These are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans every year.

00:56:14.260 Trump shared a photo on social media showing a blindfolded and handcuffed Maduro in custody

00:56:18.820 aboard the USS Iwo Jima amphibious assault ship before transfer to New York for trial.

00:56:26.340 And I just have to say the memes that have come out of this have been top notch.

00:56:32.500 Just go on X, go on Instagram and search for them.

00:56:36.900 I'm sorry.

00:56:37.480 Whatever you think about this, the memes are the best.

00:56:41.400 The videos are the best.

00:56:43.640 Praising Marco Rubio, praising Donald Trump, and just kind of praising American being a superpower,

00:56:52.140 a superpower doing superpower things.

00:56:54.640 Now, there are varying opinions about this.

00:56:58.020 On the right, you've got some people on the right saying, OK, we don't want to run Venezuela.

00:57:03.480 That's one thing that Trump said, that we're going to run Venezuela.

00:57:06.280 Like, we shouldn't have done this.

00:57:07.940 We shouldn't support regime change.

00:57:09.500 This is just going to cause destabilization.

00:57:11.600 This could actually exacerbate the drug problem.

00:57:14.020 This could exacerbate the mass migration problem.

00:57:16.920 And this is not our business.

00:57:18.500 We should stay out of this.

00:57:20.680 You're just, Trump is just trying to raise his own numbers and start a war.

00:57:25.120 This is a pattern that we've seen in the past.

00:57:27.340 You see this both on the right and the left.

00:57:29.800 So that's one perspective.

00:57:32.080 Also, people saying, well, this is just going to enrage their allies like Russia, like China,

00:57:38.400 also Iran.

00:57:39.980 And this is just going to make tensions even worse.

00:57:44.700 And then the other side of it is saying, no, these are legitimate charges and they are

00:57:49.700 responsible for killing Americans. 0.87

00:57:51.640 And he does need to be brought to justice.

00:57:55.240 And this is what superpowers do.

00:57:59.160 Timothy and I, my husband and I were talking about this beforehand.

00:58:02.100 And like, he was just pointing out that, yeah, there's always going to be a world power.

00:58:09.280 There's always going to be someone in charge, whether it's America or whether it's China 0.70

00:58:15.700 or whether it's Iran or whether it is Russia, someone is always going to be in charge.

00:58:22.160 And there's not just going to be this vacuum.

00:58:25.000 We're not just all going to get along.

00:58:27.760 And if America is in charge, then America is going to do what is in America's best interests.

00:58:34.420 Now, you could argue about what America's best interests are in this.

00:58:38.440 But the Trump administration believes that getting Maduro out of the way, who is an illegitimate

00:58:43.580 president, he didn't really win the election, and who has, via the warmth of collectivism,

00:58:49.280 run Venezuela into the ground, starving their own people so they can't even get the basic 0.99

00:58:54.240 necessities to live and are eating their pets, that that is in America's best interest.

00:59:00.280 And yeah, there is an oil interest there.

00:59:02.720 And someone's going to take control of that oil.

00:59:06.860 China has a lot of control of it.

00:59:08.580 We don't want China to be more powerful.

00:59:10.900 So of course, that's part of it.

00:59:12.900 So there are going to be disputes.

00:59:14.460 There are going to be disagreements about that.

00:59:17.860 J.D. Vance, vice president, said, you see a lot of claims that Venezuela has nothing to

00:59:21.880 do with drugs because most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere.

00:59:24.440 I want to address this.

00:59:26.000 Fentanyl isn't the only drug in the world.

00:59:28.460 There's still fentanyl coming from Venezuela.

00:59:30.800 Venezuela cocaine is the main drug trafficked out of Venezuela as a profit center for all

00:59:35.440 of Latin America cartels.

00:59:37.720 Third, yes, a lot of fentanyl is coming out of Mexico.

00:59:39.920 That continues to be the focus of our policy in Mexico and is why President Trump shut the

00:59:44.720 border.

00:59:45.080 Fourth, I see a lot of criticism about oil.

00:59:46.820 About 20 years ago, Venezuela expropriated American oil property and until recently used

00:59:51.920 that stolen property to get rich and fund their narco-terrorist activities.

00:59:55.500 I understand the anxiety over the use of military force, but are we just supposed to allow

00:59:59.360 communists to steal our stuff in our hemisphere and do nothing?

01:00:02.400 Great powers don't act like that.

01:00:06.200 Also, this is a picture of Delta Force, correct, Tom?

01:00:11.740 Um, and this is the team that went in, got Maduro and his wife out.

01:00:19.220 And at the end of the day, the military is about lethality.

01:00:24.620 At the end of the day, it is only about who can do the most, well, I don't want to say

01:00:32.160 lethal job because we didn't want to kill Maduro in this case.

01:00:35.600 That wouldn't have been the justice that we are looking for.

01:00:38.960 But in general, the military is about lethality.

01:00:41.760 It's about competence and it's about effectiveness.

01:00:44.580 It's not about racial quotas.

01:00:46.600 It's not about representation.

01:00:49.280 It's not about social justice.

01:00:50.900 It's who can protect American interests and American safety best.

01:00:55.380 So pray for our military.

01:00:57.060 Um, there was also, we'll put it up, this awesome picture of Trump and a team that was,

01:01:02.520 um, involved, involved in this.

01:01:05.760 And I'm thankful for the secretary of war and Pete Hedgeseth.

01:01:10.180 And I'm thankful for an administration that cares about American interests.

01:01:14.560 Again, I think the debate is worth having.

01:01:16.560 And that's part of the whole debate and identity, figuring out that we are doing on the right.

01:01:21.380 Like, what is our role in the world?

01:01:23.940 What is our role as the world's superpower?

01:01:27.700 And what actually does American interest and security look like?

01:01:31.900 But I am thankful for an administration who does believe in peace through strength and

01:01:37.120 not peace through apology and acquiescence.

01:01:40.200 All right.

01:01:41.240 Um, I'm just going to close this out to answer the last question for Christians.

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01:02:55.320 So right now, the American right is having what we just described, an identity crisis.

01:03:07.180 We lost our main unifier, our lead coalition builder in Charlie Kirk.

01:03:12.260 He, more than we realized, gatekept the crazy.

01:03:15.040 He cooled the tensions.

01:03:16.180 He tried to make peace on the right through debate and through discussion and through agreement

01:03:21.340 where we could.

01:03:21.980 But now he's gone.

01:03:24.140 And so now fights that weren't happening out in the open when Charlie was alive are happening

01:03:28.380 in the open now and without the moderator.

01:03:30.900 And he was the moderator, like in so many ways, the moderator of debates, but also the moderator

01:03:35.260 of the right.

01:03:36.000 But our moderate was murdered.

01:03:37.420 And so now we're left to duke it out and to see who we really are and what we're really

01:03:42.200 trying to build.

01:03:42.980 And I know to all of you who watch the drama and this, like, it seems very demoralizing.

01:03:47.740 But I'm here to tell you that it's necessary because the left is out to destroy the West

01:03:51.980 via mass migration, Marxism, radical Islam.

01:03:55.160 They don't have to agree on anything except that the Western civilization way of life needs

01:03:59.720 to go.

01:04:00.460 The right is trying to preserve the West and to build a good future.

01:04:03.900 But in order to preserve and to build, you first have to define what are we preserving?

01:04:09.360 What are we building?

01:04:11.040 What is the key component to Western civilization that we are trying to conserve?

01:04:14.840 So we have to agree if we're building on something, on a plan, on the tools that we're using and

01:04:18.920 the foundation.

01:04:19.860 And that defining process is going to involve serious and sometimes ugly debates.

01:04:24.240 And as I said in my speech at Anthos, for the Christian who sees the importance of politics

01:04:28.840 and serving our neighbors and glorifying God, we, our role in this is to stand firm on God's

01:04:35.220 definitions of goodness, truth, and beauty.

01:04:37.380 We do not compromise for elections.

01:04:40.300 We can't compromise on what he says clearly in his word about morality and marriage.

01:04:44.600 And life inside the womb.

01:04:46.620 And the next few months, on Relatable, we'll be wading into some more of the debates that

01:04:51.000 we're having on the right.

01:04:53.540 Some of these debates for the first time, but a lot of them, again, and from a fresh perspective

01:04:57.840 and more thoroughly about Israel and America's involvement, whether the American identity is

01:05:03.540 about genealogy and race or just about accepting American values, the goods and bads of individualism.

01:05:08.900 And most importantly, what we see in the Bible about all of these things, because one thing

01:05:14.900 is sure that while conservatism changes, it waxes and wanes and influence, it morphs, its

01:05:20.900 boundaries shift over time.

01:05:22.900 Christianity never does. 0.95

01:05:24.820 Presidents come and go.

01:05:25.860 Policies expire.

01:05:27.320 But Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

01:05:29.940 That's what Hebrews 13, 8 tells us.

01:05:31.440 That means how we as Christians operate in the political space and our role in the conservative

01:05:36.800 movement is distinct from the rest of the world.

01:05:39.440 It doesn't mean that we're a little left and a little right.

01:05:41.880 It just means that by the grace of God, we're as biblical as possible.

01:05:45.640 It means that we're more principled than pragmatic.

01:05:47.680 It means that we're more firm than fluid.

01:05:49.260 Because there are things that we cannot compromise on, no matter what the polls say.

01:05:54.700 Because we care more about what God's word says.

01:05:57.160 We care more about eternity.

01:05:59.100 Public opinion changes.

01:06:00.360 But the word of God lasts forever.

01:06:02.620 And his word is explicitly clear about the value of human life starting from its beginning

01:06:08.120 that affects our view on abortion, on IVF, on surrogacy, on sperm and egg donation or sperm

01:06:14.640 and egg selling and the importance of marriage and family.

01:06:16.900 God's word is explicitly clear in defining marriages between one man and one woman.

01:06:22.840 God's word is clear on these things.

01:06:25.080 And many of the other policies that people think that God's word isn't clear on, like

01:06:29.200 immigration or justice, actually, we can find principles for those things in God's word.

01:06:35.260 And that's what I'm most interested in exploring.

01:06:37.300 The world is going to whirl.

01:06:38.260 The secular is going to secular. 0.68

01:06:40.040 But, like, how can we as the church be as clear and cohesive as possible on what is good,

01:06:47.300 right, and true?

01:06:47.820 And what can we do to persuade people over to our cause?

01:06:52.160 Now, you know, as I have told you many times, that you don't have to be an influencer to have

01:06:57.560 influence.

01:06:58.360 You don't have to be a podcaster to have a platform.

01:07:00.900 You don't have to be on social media or have a microphone or be up on stage in order to

01:07:08.180 convince people and persuade people of what is good, right, and true.

01:07:11.980 Yes, every podcast episode is persuasion.

01:07:15.500 Every sermon is persuasion.

01:07:17.460 Every social media post could be persuasion.

01:07:20.040 But parenting is also persuasion.

01:07:22.100 You are discipling your kids by persuading them of what is good, right, and true.

01:07:26.360 And that is an eternal investment, not just an investment in the next generation and in

01:07:31.560 the future of our country, which really matters, but an investment in eternity because their

01:07:35.340 little souls last forever.

01:07:37.640 And so, 2026, what's out, what we leave behind in 2025, no matter what sphere you occupy, as

01:07:45.540 a stay-at-home mom, as an employee, as a student, as a podcaster, whatever it is, you leave behind

01:07:51.180 cowardice, and you leave behind compromise, and you leave behind confusion.

01:07:55.380 In 2026, we are resolute in clarity and in courage.

01:07:59.820 No matter what that looks like for you, and the private moments and the public ones, and

01:08:03.200 the personal and the professional and the political, clarity and courage is what we are

01:08:07.320 going for.

01:08:08.180 By the grace of God, I am on that journey with you.

01:08:11.740 Okay, the last thing I want to say, and I didn't plan to say this, but I was just thinking

01:08:15.120 this, the good, the true, and the beautiful, that's what we want.

01:08:18.800 And I saw something over the break with our kids that I think typifies that really well.

01:08:24.000 And that is the movie David by Angel Studios.

01:08:26.360 This is not a paid advertisement at all.

01:08:28.340 I just wanted to say, we should be supporting beautiful art.

01:08:32.440 We should be supporting the alternative to the demonic in the dark that we are seeing over

01:08:36.000 there.

01:08:36.500 And we should be supporting things that unapologetically glorify God.

01:08:40.920 And I encourage you to not only see David.

01:08:42.980 Yeah, there are some things that's like, okay, that's not exactly what happened.

01:08:45.580 I was waiting for David to cut off Goliath's head.

01:08:47.740 What happened there?

01:08:48.300 There were a couple of things like that, but nothing that was major that changed the story.

01:08:53.320 But here's what you have to do.

01:08:54.840 You have to see David as a precursor for Christ.

01:08:59.780 And you have to remember that Christ is the new and true David, the new and better David,

01:09:06.660 that he was an archetype.

01:09:09.300 Archetype.

01:09:10.540 And so if you see David as the precursor to the true Messiah, then I think that just 0.55

01:09:19.840 makes the gospel come alive throughout the movie.

01:09:21.740 So that's what I would recommend.

01:09:23.440 There are lots of things that we can do to push back against the darkness.

01:09:26.260 Speaking truth is one of them.

01:09:27.400 Discipling our kids is a huge one.

01:09:28.940 But also creating alternatives to the darkness is a great way to do that.

01:09:33.540 And supporting that alternative is great too.

01:09:35.660 All right.

01:09:35.940 We'll be back here on Wednesday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 05, 2026

Ep 1283 ｜ Is Tucker Carlson Right About Islam？

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