Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - January 14, 2026


Ep 1288 | Bryce Crawford: How to Overcome Nerves to Share the Gospel Anywhere


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41 minutes

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189.06851

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7,820

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639

Misogynist Sentences

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00:00:00.660 The head of the KKK, furries, politicians, homeless people, what do all of these groups
00:00:07.040 have in common?
00:00:07.980 They need Jesus.
00:00:09.500 They need to hear the gospel.
00:00:10.740 Bryce Crawford knows that.
00:00:12.240 That's why he goes to everyone everywhere and preaches the good news of Jesus Christ.
00:00:16.640 But how did he get started?
00:00:18.580 What inspired him to not only believe and follow Jesus, but to share that with other
00:00:23.580 people?
00:00:23.940 We are talking to our new friend, Bryce Crawford, today about his testimony and how he gets
00:00:29.800 over the nerves of talking to people about Jesus.
00:00:32.860 We're also talking to Riley Gaines.
00:00:35.320 She just became a mom.
00:00:37.040 How has this changed her advocacy and what she thinks about fairness in women's sports?
00:00:43.760 We're talking about all of these things with our two friends today and much more in these
00:00:48.260 conversations from America Fest.
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00:00:59.800 Bryce, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
00:01:10.080 Absolutely.
00:01:10.540 Thanks for having me on.
00:01:11.480 Okay.
00:01:11.780 For the few people who may not know, can you tell us who you are and what you do?
00:01:15.280 I'm Bryce and I talk about Jesus for a living.
00:01:18.260 You really do.
00:01:19.340 And you've amassed millions and millions by the grace of God of followers because you evangelize.
00:01:25.580 You just go on the streets and you tell people the gospel.
00:01:27.780 Yes, ma'am.
00:01:28.800 How did that start?
00:01:30.520 Well, I became a Christian when I was 17.
00:01:32.460 I had depression and anxiety for years, grew up in Christian environment, went to a Christian
00:01:35.960 school, but I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus when I was 17, stopped me from taking
00:01:40.420 my life.
00:01:40.980 And that was my intro to Christianity.
00:01:43.520 And from that moment, I started sharing my faith and it started just Jesus loves you.
00:01:49.000 And then I'd run away before people could respond because I didn't have the answer to the
00:01:51.900 questions.
00:01:52.440 And then I slowly started standing up because I realized Jesus loves you isn't the gospel.
00:01:57.440 And so I had to learn the gospel and answer questions and been doing it for almost five
00:02:01.100 years.
00:02:01.760 Okay.
00:02:01.980 I have two questions based on what you just said.
00:02:04.480 Number one, the supernatural encounter with Jesus that stopped you from taking your life.
00:02:08.480 Can you tell us what that moment was?
00:02:10.080 Absolutely.
00:02:10.540 I went to Waffle House as my last meal, death row meal, you can call it.
00:02:15.300 And so you had a plan.
00:02:16.860 I had a plan.
00:02:17.460 I was going to take my life when I got home.
00:02:19.280 It was on Christmas day of 2020.
00:02:21.440 And I went to Waffle House and I was at this table.
00:02:24.880 No one preached to me.
00:02:26.040 No one shared the gospel with me.
00:02:27.880 The total opposite happened.
00:02:28.960 Actually, this grown man dumped his life issues on me.
00:02:32.920 And he said, I'm losing my wife.
00:02:36.300 She's divorcing me and taking my kids.
00:02:38.240 And then he said, there's no love in a relationship.
00:02:41.740 There's no growth in a relationship if the love isn't mutual.
00:02:44.740 And when he said that, time stopped.
00:02:48.340 And I had learned about Jesus all my life, grew up in church, Christian school.
00:02:51.520 But the brain knowledge connected to my heart.
00:02:54.380 And for the first time, I thought to myself, maybe I don't know God loves me because I haven't
00:02:59.460 given myself a chance to love him back, like us spending time to know each other.
00:03:03.040 And really, it was just supernatural revelation, kind of like in Matthew 16, when Peter realizes
00:03:07.500 that Jesus is the Christ.
00:03:09.140 And Jesus says, well, it's not by your own willpower you did that.
00:03:11.640 It's a gift from God.
00:03:12.960 It's a grace of God that you were able to understand that.
00:03:15.300 And so I prayed a crazy prayer.
00:03:16.700 I said, Jesus, if you're real, take away my anxiety and depression because it's the reason
00:03:20.920 why I want to take my life.
00:03:22.060 And I haven't had that crippling anxiety or depression since that day.
00:03:25.040 It's been almost five years.
00:03:26.460 Wow.
00:03:27.000 And so you said that that led you to go tell people that Jesus loved them.
00:03:31.020 Yes, ma'am.
00:03:31.280 But at some point, you realized that's not the gospel.
00:03:34.440 There are some people listening that don't know that that's not the gospel.
00:03:38.440 So what do you mean by that?
00:03:39.800 Yeah, I think we say Jesus loves you.
00:03:41.580 You know, and that's the gospel.
00:03:43.040 It's not the gospel.
00:03:43.720 I mean, yes, Jesus displayed his love on the cross, but Jesus talked about hell a lot and
00:03:49.160 talked about that people are going to go to hell and be separated from God for an eternity
00:03:53.380 because of their sin.
00:03:54.780 And that's the thing.
00:03:55.600 You and I deserve the wrath and justice of God because we've done wrong in God's face.
00:04:00.980 We slap him in the face every day.
00:04:02.360 But because of God's love, because of his love displayed on the cross, Jesus' death and
00:04:07.700 resurrection, because there has to be justice, there has to be a payment for wrong, we have
00:04:12.480 an eternal debt for God.
00:04:13.980 That means an eternal payment has to be paid either with your life or his life.
00:04:17.800 And Jesus laid his life down and defeated sin and death, the only thing you and I can't
00:04:21.480 defeat.
00:04:22.320 And if we put our faith that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from our sin, we are justified
00:04:26.820 and may write in God's eyes and we get to spend an eternity with him.
00:04:30.260 But if we decide we don't want Jesus, it breaks his heart all the more.
00:04:34.100 But we spend an eternity separate from him and he grants that wish.
00:04:37.260 And so that's the gospel.
00:04:39.540 Yeah.
00:04:39.880 You said that you had to take some time to really learn that, to dig into what the Bible
00:04:43.480 says, the message that Jesus actually preached.
00:04:46.700 What did that look like for you to get serious about studying God's word?
00:04:50.760 Well, when I became a Christian, I locked myself in my bedroom.
00:04:53.460 Don't suggest that.
00:04:54.700 But with my Bible and this book called Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem.
00:04:59.920 It's from the 1990s.
00:05:00.780 One of my favorites.
00:05:01.760 It's great.
00:05:02.320 It's a thick textbook.
00:05:03.480 So that's where I kind of got like this base level foundation.
00:05:05.940 And you're 17 at this point.
00:05:07.400 I'm 17.
00:05:08.200 Wow.
00:05:08.880 And then from there, it was just reading the word of God and looking at history, church
00:05:14.040 fathers, looking at theologians like C.S. Lewis, Sproul, everyone.
00:05:19.300 Don't limit yourself to a denomination.
00:05:21.100 Like I'm talking, just look at the church fathers, like look at what they say.
00:05:23.940 And that's kind of where I built a lot of my perspective theology and things like that,
00:05:27.980 just from doing research.
00:05:29.560 Yeah.
00:05:29.860 And when did you start actually going out and preaching that gospel?
00:05:33.200 The next day.
00:05:34.060 The next day.
00:05:34.980 I mean, yeah, it started with Jesus loves you.
00:05:36.600 But I would say about a month.
00:05:37.600 It took me about a month.
00:05:38.780 And then it was everywhere.
00:05:39.800 I remember having an old bully from school who left my school and joined a gang and was
00:05:45.500 living this crazy life.
00:05:46.460 And he was my first guy and he threatened to kill me.
00:05:50.080 And we met up at lunch and he fell in my arms crying and needed Jesus.
00:05:54.260 And so I spent about six months really hammering him with Jesus and discipleship.
00:06:00.000 And so I would say about a month after I became a Christian, I really felt like I had a decent
00:06:03.480 grasp on the gospel and then started taking it with me.
00:06:07.580 Yeah.
00:06:07.860 What have you learned these five years of evangelism?
00:06:11.540 You've put a lot into practice.
00:06:13.400 And I imagine that things have gotten better or easier or maybe harder in some ways.
00:06:18.120 What does that look like?
00:06:19.300 I think listening is the greatest tool of evangelism.
00:06:21.940 We always try to talk so much.
00:06:23.380 Oh, maybe if I say this phrase or if I say this one thing right, it's really going to hit home.
00:06:27.920 And the Bible says we plant seeds and water seeds.
00:06:30.800 It's not my job to save anyone.
00:06:32.100 It's not your job to save anyone.
00:06:33.480 And so I found listening and being intentional with people is the greatest tool of evangelism.
00:06:39.340 It's not love bombing.
00:06:40.380 It's just caring about people.
00:06:42.020 It's just you care about people.
00:06:43.360 And in there, I think God gives you leverage.
00:06:46.580 Have you been surprised at the number of people who follow you to watch you share the gospel
00:06:51.040 with people?
00:06:51.800 Absolutely.
00:06:52.320 I don't know why people listen to me.
00:06:54.500 Yeah.
00:06:54.860 I don't know why.
00:06:55.780 I can imagine.
00:06:56.460 What do you see in your generation?
00:06:58.180 You're still Gen Z.
00:06:59.320 Considered Gen Z, right?
00:07:00.420 Gen Z.
00:07:01.280 Gen Z.
00:07:01.700 Okay, and your generation, people talk a lot about revival and like renewed hunger for
00:07:07.020 truth.
00:07:07.360 Would you say that's true?
00:07:08.380 I'd say absolutely.
00:07:09.320 I mean, I moved to L.A. three years ago and Christianity was the minority, but now Christianity
00:07:13.400 is slowly becoming a majority in L.A., which that sounds shocking, but it's true.
00:07:18.160 You know, we're on the ground in there and, you know, you're on the ground in your school
00:07:21.040 and in your city.
00:07:21.780 I just remember hearing so much when I first became a Christian.
00:07:24.360 Oh, Gen Z is so lost.
00:07:26.340 Oh, there are lost cause, this, this, and that.
00:07:28.240 And it's like, wow, that is not hopeful for my generation to go, wow, I really want to
00:07:32.660 turn to Jesus.
00:07:33.380 You really believe in me, don't you?
00:07:35.500 You know, and I've just found we need fathers and mothers who care about our generation to
00:07:39.240 believe in us instead of speak death over us.
00:07:41.500 And I see a generation really turning to Jesus.
00:07:44.160 People are stepping up.
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00:08:52.580 For people who admire your boldness but are nervous, they think, oh, well, you're just
00:08:57.740 a good public speaker.
00:08:58.660 You're just a good communicator.
00:08:59.940 I could never do something like that.
00:09:02.180 What do you tell them?
00:09:03.200 Oh, man, I still get nervous to this day.
00:09:05.140 You do?
00:09:05.500 Every time.
00:09:06.020 Every time.
00:09:06.580 Yeah, absolutely.
00:09:07.200 I think it's the human nature, right?
00:09:08.340 Because what are they going to think?
00:09:09.960 What are they going to say?
00:09:11.320 I don't think you have to beat yourself up because you feel that way, but I have to pray
00:09:14.300 for boldness.
00:09:15.420 God, give me boldness.
00:09:16.740 That's what the disciples, after the 3,000 got saved with Peter, they got baptized, received
00:09:21.820 the Holy Spirit, and they go, all right, Peter, what do we do?
00:09:23.380 And he's like, pray for boldness.
00:09:25.180 And every day we have to pray for boldness because Proverbs would say the fear of man
00:09:28.760 is like a snare, you know?
00:09:30.240 Fear of man creates passivity, and we know passivity is sinful.
00:09:33.360 And so I don't want to live passive, and if I want to be a fool for anyone, I want to
00:09:37.300 be a fool for Jesus because I don't want to get to heaven and people say, man, why didn't
00:09:40.160 you tell me this?
00:09:41.120 This was true.
00:09:42.220 Oh, because I was afraid of what you thought.
00:09:44.180 That's a poor way to go out.
00:09:46.540 How do you explain the gospel to someone who has no Christian context?
00:09:51.080 They don't know anything about what you're talking about.
00:09:53.220 Yeah, I kind of explain it like a murderer, like a criminal.
00:09:56.540 You know, a murderer commits a crime, and if the police officer arrested them and then
00:10:00.240 took them to donuts and coffee, you'd be like, that's a little weird.
00:10:03.460 No, the murderer deserves jail.
00:10:05.340 And in the same way a murderer deserves jail and deserves to be punished, it's the same
00:10:08.460 way you and I deserve to be punished because you don't have to teach a four-year-old to
00:10:12.180 be selfish and not share and pitch fits and hit the mom or hit the dad when they're upset.
00:10:17.560 It doesn't matter how good of a parent you are.
00:10:19.280 It's in their nature.
00:10:21.280 But it's a gift from God that God substitutes His wrath on us with His grace.
00:10:27.600 And I think the ultimate thing for me is explaining forgiveness.
00:10:31.060 You know, forgiveness is canceling the debt someone owes you, and God has canceled the
00:10:36.080 debt that we owe Him with His life, and I think that's beautiful.
00:10:40.000 Has it surprised you how quickly or easily someone who doesn't have the same background
00:10:46.300 that we do, raised in the church, can understand the concept that you just explained?
00:10:50.740 It doesn't surprise me.
00:10:52.580 I think there's complexities about God that when you dive deeper, it's hard.
00:10:57.140 But God's not trying to do mental gymnastics with anyone.
00:11:00.240 Um, to understand just Him.
00:11:02.360 Know that He wants a relationship with you.
00:11:04.580 God's not a dictator in every religion He is, but not in Christianity.
00:11:08.080 Christianity is the only religion of compassion.
00:11:10.960 And I think it's, it's every human heart longs for compassion.
00:11:15.320 So I think that's why it's easier for people to understand that.
00:11:18.540 Yeah.
00:11:19.000 Have you ever gotten a question from someone that you're evangelizing to that really stumped
00:11:23.040 you in the moment?
00:11:23.880 Absolutely.
00:11:24.780 Can you think of one?
00:11:26.060 Um, man, when I talk to the Hebrew Israelites a lot, you know, those guys.
00:11:30.480 So the black Hebrew Israelites who believe that they're the real chosen people.
00:11:36.020 Yes.
00:11:36.260 If you're not black, you're going to hell basically.
00:11:38.420 And, uh, you know, I, I, uh, you know, it's hard, it's hard to talk with people that are,
00:11:43.500 that are prideful and that, that take scripture out of context.
00:11:46.820 You know what I mean?
00:11:47.560 And so I just say, okay, thank you.
00:11:50.180 Or, oh, I don't know, but this is what I do know.
00:11:53.200 Um, we are, the Holy Spirit can take over and give you words, but, but we can't let false
00:11:57.700 doctrines sway us aside.
00:11:59.040 Those guys can be a little iffy.
00:12:01.740 Yeah.
00:12:02.240 For someone who wants to get serious about apologetics, being able to answer the questions
00:12:06.440 that they can about the character of God, the word of God, where do you recommend they
00:12:10.460 start?
00:12:11.700 Say find guys like C.S.
00:12:12.840 Lewis, R.C.
00:12:13.680 Sproul, Charles Spurgeon.
00:12:15.580 Look at these guys.
00:12:16.100 Even modern age guys like Frank Turek, Cliff Koneckley, all these guys, just don't be
00:12:19.520 the smartest guy in the room and don't think that you know it all.
00:12:21.800 Cause the second that you think you know it all, that's when you find someone that knows
00:12:25.440 more than you do.
00:12:26.420 And then, and then you, you know, always live in this state of humility and always, always
00:12:30.680 want to learn.
00:12:31.640 Yeah.
00:12:32.060 I think you should underestimate yourself and what you know, especially if you're, you're
00:12:36.980 not really going into debates per se, but I go into debates and stuff and I always
00:12:41.100 try to overestimate the intellect of the person that I'm talking to and underestimate
00:12:45.160 my own.
00:12:45.880 When you switch those, that's when you get in those really sticky situations.
00:12:50.000 Absolutely.
00:12:50.360 Okay.
00:12:50.480 You just got engaged.
00:12:51.680 I did.
00:12:52.320 That's really exciting.
00:12:53.340 Thank you.
00:12:54.380 Thank you.
00:12:54.640 How did you meet your fiance?
00:12:56.220 Well, I knew her in high school.
00:12:58.580 She didn't know me.
00:12:59.340 She was very beautiful and popular at a public school and I was very nerdy and not cool at
00:13:03.400 a private school.
00:13:04.420 So, uh, so I had a crush from afar.
00:13:06.340 We both didn't know Jesus at the time and moved to LA, never would think about her occasionally.
00:13:11.620 It'd be, man, she was so beautiful, you know, reminiscing on the good old days or whatever.
00:13:15.940 And then one day I was at, my roommate holds a Bible study and she walked into the Bible
00:13:20.080 study and I, I, I almost, I lost it.
00:13:23.800 I was like, there's no way this is happening.
00:13:25.480 Um, and that's where we met and we have been dating ever since.
00:13:30.220 Yeah.
00:13:30.460 And you're getting married soon.
00:13:32.140 January 10th.
00:13:33.340 Amazing.
00:13:34.040 Short engagement.
00:13:35.020 That's the way to go.
00:13:36.140 Congrats.
00:13:37.160 Okay.
00:13:37.520 There's a lot of people out there, your age, younger, older, who are like, I just want
00:13:42.280 God to bring me the right person.
00:13:43.980 What's your advice for them?
00:13:46.120 Well, I think, you know, you can, it's interesting, like soulmates.
00:13:49.720 I don't, I don't think God makes soulmates.
00:13:51.560 I think you can enjoy, you can find, you can, you can find yourself to fall in love
00:13:56.040 with anyone.
00:13:56.440 But the reality is, it's like, if you don't love Jesus, you're not worthy of being trusted
00:14:01.660 with his daughter.
00:14:02.520 And so every, every time I started dating Maddie, I would just ask God, can I take your
00:14:05.840 daughter out on a date?
00:14:07.360 Um, cause it's God's daughter.
00:14:08.720 He's trusting you with it.
00:14:09.440 It's his joy to trust you with her.
00:14:11.060 Um, but, but work on yourself, make sure you're right with Jesus and, and, and God will bring
00:14:15.780 you someone he can trust you with when the time is right.
00:14:18.280 That's awesome.
00:14:19.140 Okay.
00:14:19.900 Final parting words.
00:14:20.880 You kind of already did this, but I like to ask some of my guests, guests who do this
00:14:25.920 well, to just share the gospel in 30 seconds.
00:14:29.700 Absolutely.
00:14:30.380 You and I deserve to be punished for our wrongdoing because that's just, and everyone wants justice.
00:14:36.060 We cry out for justice until it comes to God, but we deserve to be punished and separated
00:14:40.260 from God.
00:14:40.840 But because God loves us so desperately, he desired to become so close to us in the form
00:14:45.820 of skin, living a perfect life, not just telling us how to live it, but showing us how to live
00:14:50.100 it, dying the death that you and I deserve to die and defeating the only thing that we
00:14:54.640 can't defeat sin and death so that you and I can have true life with him.
00:14:58.100 He who knew no sin became sin so that you and I could become the righteousness of God.
00:15:02.700 And that gift is on the table for anyone, anywhere at all times.
00:15:06.900 Awesome.
00:15:07.100 Amen.
00:15:07.340 Thank you so much, Bryce.
00:15:08.400 Thanks for having me on.
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00:16:24.020 Allie, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
00:16:32.600 Oh, my gosh, please.
00:16:33.600 I am so excited.
00:16:35.820 I know I just told you before we were recording, but honestly, you and how you lead with your
00:16:42.800 faith first on virtually every topic, culture, political, social, I admire and I look up to
00:16:49.680 so much.
00:16:50.140 So thank you for saying that.
00:16:52.040 Likewise, I look up to you even though you're a lot younger than me.
00:16:55.320 Just your courage has really, I feel like, grown even more over the past few years.
00:17:00.380 Obviously, it took a lot of bravery to stand up and do what you did when you were in college,
00:17:04.160 but I've just seen you grow so much in your clarity and your lack of care about what people
00:17:13.260 think, it seems like, has really grown over the past few years.
00:17:16.660 Would you agree with that and what do you attribute that to?
00:17:19.240 A hundred and ten percent.
00:17:21.300 I think back to, you know, three years ago.
00:17:24.320 I mean, this was in 2022.
00:17:25.620 It was a totally different climate that we were living in.
00:17:29.340 It was really hard to read some of the things that are being said about you.
00:17:33.440 I mean, bear in mind, I'm a 21-year-old college student who merely just wanted to compete fairly,
00:17:39.200 right?
00:17:39.520 Seems like the bare minimum.
00:17:40.620 But for saying the things that I said, such as there are two sexes and you can't change
00:17:46.500 your sex and each sex is deserving of equal opportunity, of privacy, and of safety, for
00:17:50.720 saying that, you're vilified.
00:17:53.360 And it was hard to see the things.
00:17:55.840 They would call you, I mean, everything under the sun so far, I mean, even racist and misogynist,
00:18:00.600 all these hurtful things, words with real power and weight behind them, which have now
00:18:05.020 totally lost their meaning.
00:18:06.440 But I will say now, flash forward three years, that's like water off the duck's back.
00:18:10.840 Yeah.
00:18:11.340 Reading those things.
00:18:12.480 And what I attribute that to, a couple things.
00:18:14.440 Of course, I put all of my, the confidence and the security that I have in the fact that
00:18:19.380 I'm fighting for the hope and the promise of eternal life.
00:18:21.560 And once you do that, it makes, it shifts your perspective to understand that nothing
00:18:27.620 of this world matters.
00:18:28.940 Yeah.
00:18:29.240 And of course, there's ebbs and flows and there's hard days.
00:18:31.720 But I find myself being pretty stabilized and not truthfully.
00:18:35.420 And even when someone like Simone Biles, someone that I'm sure that you looked up to at some
00:18:40.000 point because all young athletes do, she says something completely wrong, inaccurate, rude
00:18:47.700 about you.
00:18:48.460 How do you handle that at home?
00:18:50.480 It's so funny because when I got this notification from Simone Biles, which it was this big Twitter
00:18:57.140 ex altercation.
00:18:58.200 And so I get this notification on my phone.
00:19:00.120 It's a Friday evening.
00:19:00.820 And I just see Simone Biles tagged you in a comment.
00:19:03.600 I'm like over the moon excited because you're right.
00:19:05.780 This is someone who I have admired and looked up to for so long as an athlete.
00:19:10.500 Like she is the best in her sport bar none.
00:19:13.000 And so I get this notification.
00:19:14.140 I'm smiling ear to ear Friday afternoon.
00:19:16.100 I'm about to turn my phone off for Saturday.
00:19:18.420 I click on it and it said something to the effect of, you know, you're disgusting bully,
00:19:23.180 Riley.
00:19:23.520 Why don't you pick on someone your own size, which would ironically be a man.
00:19:27.680 And reading that, the words that she said, I think in the way that she intended to use
00:19:33.820 them didn't hurt me in that way.
00:19:36.140 It was more so the devastation of understanding that this is little girls role models.
00:19:40.340 Right.
00:19:40.560 And she, in the name of inclusion and being progressive, decided to come after me.
00:19:45.740 And again, for what?
00:19:47.080 For saying that women's sports are only for women.
00:19:51.480 So it's hard to read those things, not to, again, the words or how she's intending them
00:19:57.160 to be used.
00:19:58.000 Yeah.
00:19:58.300 But just more so an understanding like little girls look up to her.
00:20:01.700 My little sister, she's a gymnast.
00:20:03.260 She's 17 years old.
00:20:04.520 She's an elite level gymnast.
00:20:05.580 She will go on to do incredible things in college and beyond.
00:20:08.880 That's my little sister's role model.
00:20:10.260 And so my little sister approaches me and she's like, look, if I have to take sides,
00:20:14.900 I'm team Riley.
00:20:16.240 Yeah.
00:20:16.720 And so.
00:20:17.400 Of course.
00:20:17.960 Yeah.
00:20:18.460 Okay.
00:20:19.120 I feel like the tide is turning in a really good way when it comes to female sports,
00:20:24.420 but also just people's courage and their willingness to say, yeah, sorry, a man can't become
00:20:29.540 a woman, it's not possible for a child to be born in the wrong body, but you're really
00:20:33.520 in the thick of it.
00:20:34.360 Like you see the activist attacks, you're seeing what's really going on on college campuses.
00:20:39.560 Do you feel like the tide is turning?
00:20:41.940 A hundred and ten percent.
00:20:43.780 Again, you compare now to even, I mean, a year ago, it's very different.
00:20:48.800 I think we're seeing more people with the willingness and the boldness to say that men
00:20:53.720 can't become women, men can't get pregnant, women don't need prostate exams, tampons don't
00:20:58.720 belong in boys' bathrooms.
00:21:01.000 And I think there's a lot of things to accredit that too.
00:21:04.300 Obviously, it sounds pretty cliche, but I do believe courage begets courage.
00:21:07.520 And so when you have people like yourself or you have President Trump in the Oval Office,
00:21:12.060 that gives people a lot of cover, right?
00:21:14.680 They see him doing it or you doing it and they think, I can do that.
00:21:18.520 I can utilize my circle of influence to say the exact same thing.
00:21:21.260 And so I see that we've seen lots of victories, of course, within what's going on at the national
00:21:27.560 level with President Trump signing executive orders.
00:21:30.300 I mean, day one declaring there are only two sexes, male and female executive order, barring
00:21:34.840 men from participating in women's sports within any educational program that receives federal
00:21:38.660 funds.
00:21:39.640 We will see in just a few weeks at the Supreme Court, I believe the date is January 13th.
00:21:44.780 This will be the oral arguments surrounding a Title IX case.
00:21:48.140 And so hopefully, once and for all, it will be clarified what exactly is meant when Title
00:21:55.500 IX implemented back in 1973, very brief piece of legislation, what it meant when it defines
00:22:03.040 the word, well, I guess it didn't define the word sex because we never knew we had to.
00:22:07.400 Hopefully we have some clarity on that.
00:22:08.920 And I imagine my prediction here is we will either see a 5-4 ruling or a 6-3 with a pretty
00:22:15.880 scathing liberal dissent.
00:22:17.860 Yeah, yeah.
00:22:18.960 I'm so interested to see how Democrats will play it since this is becoming one of those
00:22:23.340 80-20 issues.
00:22:24.400 We've got 80% of the country that at least can acknowledge women's sports need to be
00:22:28.740 protected.
00:22:29.620 You have someone like Gavin Newsom, who's obviously gunning for 20-28, and he's out there on a
00:22:34.200 podcast trying so hard to play it in the middle.
00:22:36.720 On the one hand, he says, I'm the most pro-trans governor, but also we need to protect women's
00:22:42.020 spaces, which doesn't make any logical sense.
00:22:44.920 So what is your thought about how this is going to play out politically?
00:22:48.580 Do you think Democrats are going to have to just relent and say, okay, this is not going
00:22:52.960 to be our winning issue?
00:22:54.560 Well, do I think that's what they need to do?
00:22:56.380 Absolutely.
00:22:58.020 Truthfully, I thought that's what they were going to do following President Trump's, really
00:23:01.960 this red wave that we saw in November of 2024.
00:23:05.660 I've said it before, and I will say it again.
00:23:07.460 I think people turned out to the polls then to support President Trump, of course, and to
00:23:11.200 support his America First agenda and to support his cabinet, but more so, I think people turned
00:23:15.880 out to the polls to reject absurdity, and that's what the Democratic Party has become
00:23:19.820 entirely and thoroughly, top to bottom, local, state, federal, is just absurd.
00:23:25.500 Yeah.
00:23:25.680 And so I thought we would see them slowly start to recant or distance themselves from their
00:23:30.300 voting record, but that's not what we've seen at all.
00:23:32.560 Really, they have leaned in to the extremism and the radicalism.
00:23:36.640 Obviously, look at what just happened in New York City, which really doesn't come as too
00:23:40.760 much of a surprise where he self-described Muslim socialists, just one mayor.
00:23:45.180 But I think more of a condemnation of humanity is what we just saw in Virginia in their attorney
00:23:51.640 general race.
00:23:52.540 I believe this to be one of the most, actually probably the most violent and extreme rhetoric
00:23:57.320 we have seen from any major level race of any candidate, again, at any level.
00:24:02.000 And the state's top law enforcement officer, that being the attorney general, saying that
00:24:08.060 he wishes to watch the children of his political opponents die in their parents' arm.
00:24:12.360 Yeah.
00:24:12.840 And he won.
00:24:14.420 So they're leaning in to the radicalism.
00:24:17.140 It's a pretty terrifying thought.
00:24:18.980 But, again, it just proves that it's up to us, all of the people here, you, myself, to
00:24:26.860 not become complacent.
00:24:27.880 I think so often we see, obviously, President Trump in the Oval Office, and we think, these
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00:24:32.860 You know, you live in Texas.
00:24:33.800 I live in Tennessee.
00:24:34.460 We don't have to worry about any of this woke stuff.
00:24:37.860 That's when you're most susceptible, I believe.
00:24:40.460 So we, as Christians, I think most importantly, we cannot become comfortable or complacent.
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00:26:17.180 How has becoming a mom, having a little baby girl, helped shape or solidify or even change
00:26:29.480 how you see the world?
00:26:30.820 It changes my perspective on literally everything.
00:26:35.380 I think I approach, naturally, I approach the conversations that I find myself talking
00:26:39.680 about with my own personal experience.
00:26:42.640 Yeah.
00:26:42.820 I don't think about me anymore.
00:26:46.500 I think about my daughter, right?
00:26:48.040 Even the issue of men and women's sports, I came at it at the forefront of my mind is
00:26:52.720 what the impact and the negative direct experience we had.
00:26:58.260 Now, I approach that conversation of the world that I want my daughter to inherit, a fair and
00:27:03.980 righteous and just and moral and safe world for her.
00:27:06.680 That has shifted my worldview entirely on every single topic.
00:27:11.680 It intensifies the fight, the need for it, the timeliness of it.
00:27:17.740 It makes it all worth it, too.
00:27:19.880 I think all of the pushback and the backlash, when you have something so precious and innocent
00:27:27.840 and vulnerable and defenseless at this point, she's 10 weeks or I guess 11 weeks now, defenseless
00:27:32.980 that you're fighting for, who cares?
00:27:35.180 You can't say anything about me because that's the priority here.
00:27:39.360 So, okay, on a personal level, what has it been like since she's been born?
00:27:43.740 What's it been like in this postpartum period?
00:27:46.460 Honestly, I think a lot of women are going to get mad, but easy peasy.
00:27:50.780 Yeah.
00:27:51.220 I am mad.
00:27:52.460 I am mad and we're all mad.
00:27:54.460 We're mad at you.
00:27:55.220 It's been a dream.
00:27:56.300 Like, I'm not saying what I'm about to say to discount any of the women who have hard
00:28:02.860 experiences because, you know, they certainly exist, but I do think we need to hear the
00:28:07.420 good stories.
00:28:08.460 Yeah.
00:28:08.680 My pregnancy was a breeze, a breeze.
00:28:11.320 I had no morning sickness, no tired, no fatigue, no aversions, nothing.
00:28:14.560 Was able to lift and run and exercise all the way throughout.
00:28:17.380 I was at Charlie's memorial service on my due date, 40 weeks pregnant.
00:28:21.440 Oh my gosh.
00:28:22.140 I remember that.
00:28:23.040 That is crazy.
00:28:24.200 Yes.
00:28:24.780 Crazy.
00:28:25.140 My doctor thought so too.
00:28:26.140 But the Lord's timing was perfect.
00:28:27.840 A hundred percent.
00:28:28.940 The labor and delivery process, I loved every single second of it.
00:28:31.800 It was like the most magical thing ever.
00:28:35.140 And now even postpartum, you know, you hear and I get kind of tired of the just wait.
00:28:41.000 Well, I heard it all the time during pregnancy.
00:28:43.060 Well, you just wait until the last few weeks or during the labor process, you just wait.
00:28:47.020 Or now being postpartum, you just wait until you don't get any sleep.
00:28:50.360 My child, I think we maybe just birthed the perfect human.
00:28:53.180 But she has slept fully through the night since day one.
00:28:56.400 So I don't say that again to discount the other stories.
00:29:00.140 But I think it's important for especially young women to hear there are good stories.
00:29:04.900 It has been a dream.
00:29:06.320 Every part of it.
00:29:07.220 Yeah.
00:29:07.520 I love motherhood so much.
00:29:09.240 And every child is so different and every pregnancy is so different.
00:29:12.680 And I think it's so important to hear that it's not always this nightmare.
00:29:17.340 And also, even when it is really hard, because it might be hard, you might have a hard pregnancy or you might have a really difficult postpartum.
00:29:25.000 And not only is it very worth it, but it also is a season.
00:29:29.960 Like, everything is a season.
00:29:31.740 And now I've got three kids and my oldest is six.
00:29:34.220 And I look back and everything that someone told me that it goes by fast.
00:29:39.060 It never seems like it in the moment.
00:29:40.660 But it really does.
00:29:42.140 And I'm like, I did survive that.
00:29:43.780 I was sanctified through that.
00:29:45.820 It is completely worth it.
00:29:47.340 But sometimes you just have to hear that, too.
00:29:49.200 That even when it is hard, because sometimes it is hard, that it's good.
00:29:53.720 And hard is not the same thing as bad.
00:29:55.700 That's the title of a book of a friend that I really love.
00:29:58.740 Hard is not the same thing as bad.
00:30:00.220 Hard is good.
00:30:01.220 Trials are good.
00:30:02.020 They shape you.
00:30:03.700 So, yeah, just keep that in mind.
00:30:05.660 I was talking to Rachel Campus Duffy yesterday after I'd interviewed them on stage, her and Secretary Duffy.
00:30:12.820 And one of the things she told me is she said, look, you know, I know you could potentially be in the motherhood trenches right now.
00:30:19.340 I want you to think 20 years from now when you're sitting around the Thanksgiving table.
00:30:23.220 Yeah.
00:30:24.180 That's ultimately the end goal.
00:30:26.420 Think of that in these hard moments.
00:30:29.720 Totally.
00:30:30.260 It makes it all worth it.
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00:32:02.520 Okay, you've talked about the childhood vaccine schedule a little bit, right?
00:32:07.800 You've talked about that publicly?
00:32:09.160 Yes, yes, yes.
00:32:09.880 Okay, what are your thoughts about that now that you're a mom?
00:32:12.540 First of all, I think it's so cool to see so many young couples now beginning to question the system.
00:32:20.560 I think for so long, and understandably, because you want to trust healthcare professionals, right?
00:32:26.520 They are the ones who are supposed to be professionals.
00:32:29.600 I think there's a bit of naivety there, but you want to trust them and you believe that they have the best intentions for you and for your child.
00:32:37.040 We are now seeing people question this.
00:32:39.400 I think COVID, of course, had a large part in that and the vaccines that were pushed on us then.
00:32:43.300 My husband and I, there were a couple things that just didn't really make sense to me.
00:32:48.780 I read several books, one of those being the Vax Facts, one of those being the Vaccine Friendly Plan.
00:32:53.800 I highly recommend the Vax Facts, by the way.
00:32:56.480 One of the things that didn't make sense to me initially was when I was told, as a pregnant woman,
00:33:01.840 I couldn't have high levels of mercury, meaning don't eat raw fish.
00:33:06.740 That didn't make sense, considering these vaccines that they're putting in my baby in day one have high levels of mercury.
00:33:13.620 Same thing with deodorant.
00:33:14.960 They say, you know, there's a big push to use deodorant that doesn't have aluminum in it,
00:33:19.000 but you're going to give my child on day one vaccines that have like 30 times over the FDA recommended amount of aluminum in a baby,
00:33:27.860 like virtually moments after she's born, just red flag, right?
00:33:31.820 And so started reading, started doing some research, and I feel so encouraged in our decision to not vaccinate our baby at this point,
00:33:41.020 especially with the recent news coming out from HHS surrounding the Hep B vaccine
00:33:45.340 and seeing how the correlation between the Hep B vaccine and allergies and different allergens and things of that nature.
00:33:54.020 So praise God we have an administration who's making this a priority and tackling the childhood vaccine schedule.
00:33:59.660 There's a really powerful graphic that's out there that I think in the 1980s,
00:34:03.820 your baby received like three vaccines, and now it's upwards of 70 or 80 by the time you're 12 years old.
00:34:10.700 Yeah.
00:34:11.180 There's just no need.
00:34:12.640 This was a conversation that almost couldn't be had five years ago, not publicly.
00:34:18.220 We would have had to put this behind the paywall,
00:34:20.540 and we would have had to be very cryptic and hush-hush about it.
00:34:24.200 I think COVID changed so much because I had our first in 2019, and I just never thought about it because you trust the CDC.
00:34:33.380 What is the CDC?
00:34:34.340 What does that even stand for?
00:34:35.860 You don't think about these things being designated by the government and not trusting the government.
00:34:40.100 You just do what your pediatrician tells you.
00:34:42.000 And then COVID happened, and my pediatrician was such a bully about her vaccines, about us getting the COVID vaccine,
00:34:51.020 that I just started, I don't know if it's just my personality, but I just started to say like,
00:34:55.380 ugh, like I just, I'm not sure about that.
00:34:58.280 And so what I love now is that people do feel like they have the freedom to ask,
00:35:03.440 and that they really want the information, and that you can't bully moms anymore because they actually know.
00:35:09.000 I mean, make the choice that you think is best based on the facts, but base it on the facts,
00:35:14.500 not on peer pressure or the pressure of your pediatrician.
00:35:17.540 And I had no idea just how hard it was to find a pediatrician,
00:35:23.620 even in the very red state of Tennessee that I live in,
00:35:27.100 find a pediatrician that was willing to see your child if they didn't get the full vaccine schedule.
00:35:32.700 And so we were turned away for some places because they said, look, we basically,
00:35:41.100 we can't see you because that hinders our performance rating.
00:35:44.980 I'm like, what do you mean your performance?
00:35:46.780 They say, well, if we have 80% of children who come in that get the full childhood vaccine schedule,
00:35:51.500 then we get bonuses.
00:35:52.980 So the ratio doesn't make sense.
00:35:55.600 We just can't see you.
00:35:57.120 And so we found a fantastic pediatrician.
00:36:00.240 That's crazy, by the way.
00:36:01.700 I know, isn't it?
00:36:02.920 But it shows you too.
00:36:04.080 And I think COVID exposed a lot of this.
00:36:06.280 Money drives virtually everything.
00:36:09.840 Even the medicalization side of all of the trans nonsense.
00:36:14.820 Totally.
00:36:15.280 Oh my gosh.
00:36:15.920 It is the most, the biggest medical scandal I believe that we have ever seen in our,
00:36:20.880 in any point in history is cutting off the healthy body parts and sterilizing young children.
00:36:26.000 Yeah.
00:36:26.200 In the name of inclusion and affirmation or whatever other buzzwords they want to use.
00:36:31.220 Totally.
00:36:31.700 Totally sinister.
00:36:33.180 Yeah.
00:36:33.640 Very sinister.
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00:37:34.220 Tell me about your show that you're about to launch, right?
00:37:42.600 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:37:42.900 What is your hope for it?
00:37:44.120 I'm super duper excited.
00:37:45.860 So we're launching the Riley Gaines Show.
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00:37:50.720 It will come out two times a week on Wednesdays and Fridays.
00:37:54.540 I'm just very excited because I think there's a, as you know, and as you tend to, there's
00:37:59.900 a need to reach a specific demographic.
00:38:01.900 And the demographic that I feel very passionately about is young women.
00:38:06.200 Yeah.
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00:38:10.980 It's so cool.
00:38:12.280 And so talking all things motherhood and fitness and, of course, continuing to deliver on the
00:38:20.700 cultural and political takes that I may have, but beyond that, I think there's a real opportunity.
00:38:26.660 And so I'm excited to do what I can to help fill that.
00:38:31.060 Yeah.
00:38:31.300 So just eternally grateful.
00:38:32.760 Yeah, it is.
00:38:33.540 Okay.
00:38:33.740 What else is coming down the pipeline for Riley and your family and your life?
00:38:38.560 So we're still continuing on with getting on campuses.
00:38:42.460 Obviously, that feels pertinent to say, given that we are here at AmFest.
00:38:47.180 So this past semester, following the birth of my child, which is crazy, we were on 10
00:38:52.800 different campuses, both high schools and I, it was crazy.
00:38:56.220 Yeah.
00:38:56.360 She's already been to 15 states.
00:38:58.360 So many states.
00:38:59.040 Oh my gosh, she's knocking them off the list.
00:39:00.760 Yeah.
00:39:01.560 Continuing to get on campuses, high schools and colleges.
00:39:04.420 So going to certainly continue doing that in the new year.
00:39:07.100 As I said, this, what's going on at the Supreme Court in January is a really big deal for
00:39:10.820 the cause.
00:39:11.640 And so excited to see, we won't have any sort of ruling until I would imagine June or July,
00:39:16.000 but nonetheless, an important day for the family.
00:39:19.980 Look, I'm, I told, it was funny, you know, you deliver the baby and you're graphic, but
00:39:26.340 I mean, my legs are still up in the stirrup.
00:39:27.900 So I'm like, oh, I'm ready for another one.
00:39:29.220 Let's see.
00:39:29.920 Oh my goodness.
00:39:30.500 So hopefully more babies.
00:39:32.540 One day.
00:39:33.100 More babies.
00:39:33.780 That is awesome.
00:39:34.580 Well, Riley, thank you so much.
00:39:36.020 Just for everything you do, for the example that you set for courage.
00:39:39.180 I am no longer in the generation that's in college and after college.
00:39:43.980 And so when I'm looking behind to see, okay, do we have people that are coming up behind
00:39:49.140 us?
00:39:49.480 Because we don't just want to be the millennials or the Gen Xers that are saying what's true.
00:39:54.660 We want every generation to have those people.
00:39:57.400 And I'm just so thankful for you and for other people that are in your circle that are unapologetically
00:40:03.240 speaking the truth.
00:40:04.420 We always have your back.
00:40:05.920 We always will.
00:40:06.880 You do such a good job.
00:40:07.880 And I'm so grateful.
00:40:08.980 Well, thank you, Allie, for your boldness.
00:40:11.300 Truthfully, on a variety of issues, I think even recently, how quick you were to call out
00:40:17.100 lies that we saw being spread by Candace.
00:40:20.840 Me seeing that, it gave me courage, which I felt like already a courageous person, right?
00:40:26.600 Like I could take the attacks, but I still found myself hesitating on weighing in on this.
00:40:30.640 But you doing it gave me courage.
00:40:33.700 So thank you.
00:40:34.460 Well, courage is contagious and you've shown us that.
00:40:36.860 So thank you.
00:40:37.880 Thank you.
00:40:44.520 Thank you.
00:40:47.980 Thank you.
00:40:49.100 Thank you.
00:40:51.660 Thank you.