Ep 1288 | Bryce Crawford: How to Overcome Nerves to Share the Gospel Anywhere
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Summary
In this episode, we talk to our new friend Bryce Crawford about his testimony and how he gets over the nerves of talking to people about Jesus. We also talk to Riley Gaines, who just became a mom, about her advocacy for fair pay for women in sports.
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The head of the KKK, furries, politicians, homeless people, what do all of these groups
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That's why he goes to everyone everywhere and preaches the good news of Jesus Christ.
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What inspired him to not only believe and follow Jesus, but to share that with other
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We are talking to our new friend, Bryce Crawford, today about his testimony and how he gets
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over the nerves of talking to people about Jesus.
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How has this changed her advocacy and what she thinks about fairness in women's sports?
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We're talking about all of these things with our two friends today and much more in these
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Bryce, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
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For the few people who may not know, can you tell us who you are and what you do?
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And you've amassed millions and millions by the grace of God of followers because you evangelize.
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You just go on the streets and you tell people the gospel.
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I had depression and anxiety for years, grew up in Christian environment, went to a Christian
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school, but I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus when I was 17, stopped me from taking
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And from that moment, I started sharing my faith and it started just Jesus loves you.
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And then I'd run away before people could respond because I didn't have the answer to the
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And then I slowly started standing up because I realized Jesus loves you isn't the gospel.
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And so I had to learn the gospel and answer questions and been doing it for almost five
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I have two questions based on what you just said.
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Number one, the supernatural encounter with Jesus that stopped you from taking your life.
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I went to Waffle House as my last meal, death row meal, you can call it.
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And I went to Waffle House and I was at this table.
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Actually, this grown man dumped his life issues on me.
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And then he said, there's no love in a relationship.
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There's no growth in a relationship if the love isn't mutual.
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And I had learned about Jesus all my life, grew up in church, Christian school.
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And for the first time, I thought to myself, maybe I don't know God loves me because I haven't
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given myself a chance to love him back, like us spending time to know each other.
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And really, it was just supernatural revelation, kind of like in Matthew 16, when Peter realizes
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And Jesus says, well, it's not by your own willpower you did that.
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It's a grace of God that you were able to understand that.
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I said, Jesus, if you're real, take away my anxiety and depression because it's the reason
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And I haven't had that crippling anxiety or depression since that day.
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And so you said that that led you to go tell people that Jesus loved them.
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But at some point, you realized that's not the gospel.
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There are some people listening that don't know that that's not the gospel.
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I mean, yes, Jesus displayed his love on the cross, but Jesus talked about hell a lot and
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talked about that people are going to go to hell and be separated from God for an eternity
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You and I deserve the wrath and justice of God because we've done wrong in God's face.
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But because of God's love, because of his love displayed on the cross, Jesus' death and
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resurrection, because there has to be justice, there has to be a payment for wrong, we have
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That means an eternal payment has to be paid either with your life or his life.
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And Jesus laid his life down and defeated sin and death, the only thing you and I can't
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And if we put our faith that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from our sin, we are justified
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and may write in God's eyes and we get to spend an eternity with him.
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But if we decide we don't want Jesus, it breaks his heart all the more.
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But we spend an eternity separate from him and he grants that wish.
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You said that you had to take some time to really learn that, to dig into what the Bible
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says, the message that Jesus actually preached.
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What did that look like for you to get serious about studying God's word?
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Well, when I became a Christian, I locked myself in my bedroom.
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But with my Bible and this book called Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem.
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So that's where I kind of got like this base level foundation.
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And then from there, it was just reading the word of God and looking at history, church
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fathers, looking at theologians like C.S. Lewis, Sproul, everyone.
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Like I'm talking, just look at the church fathers, like look at what they say.
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And that's kind of where I built a lot of my perspective theology and things like that,
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And when did you start actually going out and preaching that gospel?
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I remember having an old bully from school who left my school and joined a gang and was
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And he was my first guy and he threatened to kill me.
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And we met up at lunch and he fell in my arms crying and needed Jesus.
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And so I spent about six months really hammering him with Jesus and discipleship.
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And so I would say about a month after I became a Christian, I really felt like I had a decent
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grasp on the gospel and then started taking it with me.
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What have you learned these five years of evangelism?
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And I imagine that things have gotten better or easier or maybe harder in some ways.
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I think listening is the greatest tool of evangelism.
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Oh, maybe if I say this phrase or if I say this one thing right, it's really going to hit home.
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And the Bible says we plant seeds and water seeds.
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And so I found listening and being intentional with people is the greatest tool of evangelism.
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Have you been surprised at the number of people who follow you to watch you share the gospel
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Okay, and your generation, people talk a lot about revival and like renewed hunger for
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I mean, I moved to L.A. three years ago and Christianity was the minority, but now Christianity
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is slowly becoming a majority in L.A., which that sounds shocking, but it's true.
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You know, we're on the ground in there and, you know, you're on the ground in your school
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I just remember hearing so much when I first became a Christian.
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Oh, there are lost cause, this, this, and that.
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And it's like, wow, that is not hopeful for my generation to go, wow, I really want to
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You know, and I've just found we need fathers and mothers who care about our generation to
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And I see a generation really turning to Jesus.
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For people who admire your boldness but are nervous, they think, oh, well, you're just
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I don't think you have to beat yourself up because you feel that way, but I have to pray
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That's what the disciples, after the 3,000 got saved with Peter, they got baptized, received
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the Holy Spirit, and they go, all right, Peter, what do we do?
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And every day we have to pray for boldness because Proverbs would say the fear of man
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Fear of man creates passivity, and we know passivity is sinful.
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And so I don't want to live passive, and if I want to be a fool for anyone, I want to
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be a fool for Jesus because I don't want to get to heaven and people say, man, why didn't
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How do you explain the gospel to someone who has no Christian context?
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They don't know anything about what you're talking about.
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Yeah, I kind of explain it like a murderer, like a criminal.
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You know, a murderer commits a crime, and if the police officer arrested them and then
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took them to donuts and coffee, you'd be like, that's a little weird.
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And in the same way a murderer deserves jail and deserves to be punished, it's the same
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way you and I deserve to be punished because you don't have to teach a four-year-old to
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be selfish and not share and pitch fits and hit the mom or hit the dad when they're upset.
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It doesn't matter how good of a parent you are.
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But it's a gift from God that God substitutes His wrath on us with His grace.
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And I think the ultimate thing for me is explaining forgiveness.
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You know, forgiveness is canceling the debt someone owes you, and God has canceled the
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debt that we owe Him with His life, and I think that's beautiful.
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Has it surprised you how quickly or easily someone who doesn't have the same background
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that we do, raised in the church, can understand the concept that you just explained?
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I think there's complexities about God that when you dive deeper, it's hard.
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But God's not trying to do mental gymnastics with anyone.
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God's not a dictator in every religion He is, but not in Christianity.
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Christianity is the only religion of compassion.
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And I think it's, it's every human heart longs for compassion.
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So I think that's why it's easier for people to understand that.
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Have you ever gotten a question from someone that you're evangelizing to that really stumped
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Um, man, when I talk to the Hebrew Israelites a lot, you know, those guys.
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So the black Hebrew Israelites who believe that they're the real chosen people.
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If you're not black, you're going to hell basically.
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And, uh, you know, I, I, uh, you know, it's hard, it's hard to talk with people that are,
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that are prideful and that, that take scripture out of context.
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Or, oh, I don't know, but this is what I do know.
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Um, we are, the Holy Spirit can take over and give you words, but, but we can't let false
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For someone who wants to get serious about apologetics, being able to answer the questions
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that they can about the character of God, the word of God, where do you recommend they
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Even modern age guys like Frank Turek, Cliff Koneckley, all these guys, just don't be
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the smartest guy in the room and don't think that you know it all.
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Cause the second that you think you know it all, that's when you find someone that knows
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And then, and then you, you know, always live in this state of humility and always, always
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I think you should underestimate yourself and what you know, especially if you're, you're
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not really going into debates per se, but I go into debates and stuff and I always
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try to overestimate the intellect of the person that I'm talking to and underestimate
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When you switch those, that's when you get in those really sticky situations.
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She was very beautiful and popular at a public school and I was very nerdy and not cool at
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We both didn't know Jesus at the time and moved to LA, never would think about her occasionally.
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It'd be, man, she was so beautiful, you know, reminiscing on the good old days or whatever.
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And then one day I was at, my roommate holds a Bible study and she walked into the Bible
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Um, and that's where we met and we have been dating ever since.
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There's a lot of people out there, your age, younger, older, who are like, I just want
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Well, I think, you know, you can, it's interesting, like soulmates.
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I think you can enjoy, you can find, you can, you can find yourself to fall in love
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But the reality is, it's like, if you don't love Jesus, you're not worthy of being trusted
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And so every, every time I started dating Maddie, I would just ask God, can I take your
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Um, but, but work on yourself, make sure you're right with Jesus and, and, and God will bring
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you someone he can trust you with when the time is right.
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You kind of already did this, but I like to ask some of my guests, guests who do this
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You and I deserve to be punished for our wrongdoing because that's just, and everyone wants justice.
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We cry out for justice until it comes to God, but we deserve to be punished and separated
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But because God loves us so desperately, he desired to become so close to us in the form
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of skin, living a perfect life, not just telling us how to live it, but showing us how to live
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it, dying the death that you and I deserve to die and defeating the only thing that we
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can't defeat sin and death so that you and I can have true life with him.
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He who knew no sin became sin so that you and I could become the righteousness of God.
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And that gift is on the table for anyone, anywhere at all times.
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I know I just told you before we were recording, but honestly, you and how you lead with your
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faith first on virtually every topic, culture, political, social, I admire and I look up to
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Likewise, I look up to you even though you're a lot younger than me.
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Just your courage has really, I feel like, grown even more over the past few years.
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Obviously, it took a lot of bravery to stand up and do what you did when you were in college,
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but I've just seen you grow so much in your clarity and your lack of care about what people
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think, it seems like, has really grown over the past few years.
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Would you agree with that and what do you attribute that to?
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It was a totally different climate that we were living in.
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It was really hard to read some of the things that are being said about you.
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I mean, bear in mind, I'm a 21-year-old college student who merely just wanted to compete fairly,
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But for saying the things that I said, such as there are two sexes and you can't change
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your sex and each sex is deserving of equal opportunity, of privacy, and of safety, for
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They would call you, I mean, everything under the sun so far, I mean, even racist and misogynist,
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all these hurtful things, words with real power and weight behind them, which have now
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But I will say now, flash forward three years, that's like water off the duck's back.
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Of course, I put all of my, the confidence and the security that I have in the fact that
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I'm fighting for the hope and the promise of eternal life.
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And once you do that, it makes, it shifts your perspective to understand that nothing
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And of course, there's ebbs and flows and there's hard days.
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But I find myself being pretty stabilized and not truthfully.
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And even when someone like Simone Biles, someone that I'm sure that you looked up to at some
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point because all young athletes do, she says something completely wrong, inaccurate, rude
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It's so funny because when I got this notification from Simone Biles, which it was this big Twitter
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And I just see Simone Biles tagged you in a comment.
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I'm like over the moon excited because you're right.
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This is someone who I have admired and looked up to for so long as an athlete.
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I click on it and it said something to the effect of, you know, you're disgusting bully,
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Why don't you pick on someone your own size, which would ironically be a man.
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And reading that, the words that she said, I think in the way that she intended to use
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It was more so the devastation of understanding that this is little girls role models.
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And she, in the name of inclusion and being progressive, decided to come after me.
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For saying that women's sports are only for women.
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So it's hard to read those things, not to, again, the words or how she's intending them
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But just more so an understanding like little girls look up to her.
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She will go on to do incredible things in college and beyond.
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And so my little sister approaches me and she's like, look, if I have to take sides,
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I feel like the tide is turning in a really good way when it comes to female sports,
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but also just people's courage and their willingness to say, yeah, sorry, a man can't become
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a woman, it's not possible for a child to be born in the wrong body, but you're really
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Like you see the activist attacks, you're seeing what's really going on on college campuses.
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Again, you compare now to even, I mean, a year ago, it's very different.
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I think we're seeing more people with the willingness and the boldness to say that men
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can't become women, men can't get pregnant, women don't need prostate exams, tampons don't
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And I think there's a lot of things to accredit that too.
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Obviously, it sounds pretty cliche, but I do believe courage begets courage.
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And so when you have people like yourself or you have President Trump in the Oval Office,
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They see him doing it or you doing it and they think, I can do that.
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I can utilize my circle of influence to say the exact same thing.
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And so I see that we've seen lots of victories, of course, within what's going on at the national
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level with President Trump signing executive orders.
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I mean, day one declaring there are only two sexes, male and female executive order, barring
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men from participating in women's sports within any educational program that receives federal
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We will see in just a few weeks at the Supreme Court, I believe the date is January 13th.
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This will be the oral arguments surrounding a Title IX case.
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And so hopefully, once and for all, it will be clarified what exactly is meant when Title
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IX implemented back in 1973, very brief piece of legislation, what it meant when it defines
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the word, well, I guess it didn't define the word sex because we never knew we had to.
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And I imagine my prediction here is we will either see a 5-4 ruling or a 6-3 with a pretty
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I'm so interested to see how Democrats will play it since this is becoming one of those
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We've got 80% of the country that at least can acknowledge women's sports need to be
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You have someone like Gavin Newsom, who's obviously gunning for 20-28, and he's out there on a
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podcast trying so hard to play it in the middle.
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On the one hand, he says, I'm the most pro-trans governor, but also we need to protect women's
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So what is your thought about how this is going to play out politically?
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Do you think Democrats are going to have to just relent and say, okay, this is not going
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Truthfully, I thought that's what they were going to do following President Trump's, really
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I think people turned out to the polls then to support President Trump, of course, and to
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support his America First agenda and to support his cabinet, but more so, I think people turned
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out to the polls to reject absurdity, and that's what the Democratic Party has become
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entirely and thoroughly, top to bottom, local, state, federal, is just absurd.
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And so I thought we would see them slowly start to recant or distance themselves from their
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voting record, but that's not what we've seen at all.
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Really, they have leaned in to the extremism and the radicalism.
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Obviously, look at what just happened in New York City, which really doesn't come as too
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much of a surprise where he self-described Muslim socialists, just one mayor.
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But I think more of a condemnation of humanity is what we just saw in Virginia in their attorney
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I believe this to be one of the most, actually probably the most violent and extreme rhetoric
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we have seen from any major level race of any candidate, again, at any level.
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And the state's top law enforcement officer, that being the attorney general, saying that
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he wishes to watch the children of his political opponents die in their parents' arm.
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But, again, it just proves that it's up to us, all of the people here, you, myself, to
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I think so often we see, obviously, President Trump in the Oval Office, and we think, these
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We don't have to worry about any of this woke stuff.
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That's when you're most susceptible, I believe.
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So we, as Christians, I think most importantly, we cannot become comfortable or complacent.
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How has becoming a mom, having a little baby girl, helped shape or solidify or even change
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It changes my perspective on literally everything.
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I think I approach, naturally, I approach the conversations that I find myself talking
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Even the issue of men and women's sports, I came at it at the forefront of my mind is
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what the impact and the negative direct experience we had.
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Now, I approach that conversation of the world that I want my daughter to inherit, a fair and
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righteous and just and moral and safe world for her.
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That has shifted my worldview entirely on every single topic.
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It intensifies the fight, the need for it, the timeliness of it.
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I think all of the pushback and the backlash, when you have something so precious and innocent
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and vulnerable and defenseless at this point, she's 10 weeks or I guess 11 weeks now, defenseless
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You can't say anything about me because that's the priority here.
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So, okay, on a personal level, what has it been like since she's been born?
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Honestly, I think a lot of women are going to get mad, but easy peasy.
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Like, I'm not saying what I'm about to say to discount any of the women who have hard
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experiences because, you know, they certainly exist, but I do think we need to hear the
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I had no morning sickness, no tired, no fatigue, no aversions, nothing.
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Was able to lift and run and exercise all the way throughout.
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I was at Charlie's memorial service on my due date, 40 weeks pregnant.
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The labor and delivery process, I loved every single second of it.
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And now even postpartum, you know, you hear and I get kind of tired of the just wait.
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Well, I heard it all the time during pregnancy.
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Well, you just wait until the last few weeks or during the labor process, you just wait.
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Or now being postpartum, you just wait until you don't get any sleep.
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My child, I think we maybe just birthed the perfect human.
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But she has slept fully through the night since day one.
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So I don't say that again to discount the other stories.
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But I think it's important for especially young women to hear there are good stories.
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And every child is so different and every pregnancy is so different.
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And I think it's so important to hear that it's not always this nightmare.
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And also, even when it is really hard, because it might be hard, you might have a hard pregnancy or you might have a really difficult postpartum.
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And not only is it very worth it, but it also is a season.
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And now I've got three kids and my oldest is six.
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And I look back and everything that someone told me that it goes by fast.
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That even when it is hard, because sometimes it is hard, that it's good.
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That's the title of a book of a friend that I really love.
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I was talking to Rachel Campus Duffy yesterday after I'd interviewed them on stage, her and Secretary Duffy.
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And one of the things she told me is she said, look, you know, I know you could potentially be in the motherhood trenches right now.
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I want you to think 20 years from now when you're sitting around the Thanksgiving table.
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You still have to pay so much with restrictive doctor's networks and high premiums and deductibles.
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Okay, you've talked about the childhood vaccine schedule a little bit, right?
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Okay, what are your thoughts about that now that you're a mom?
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First of all, I think it's so cool to see so many young couples now beginning to question the system.
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I think for so long, and understandably, because you want to trust healthcare professionals, right?
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They are the ones who are supposed to be professionals.
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I think there's a bit of naivety there, but you want to trust them and you believe that they have the best intentions for you and for your child.
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I think COVID, of course, had a large part in that and the vaccines that were pushed on us then.
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My husband and I, there were a couple things that just didn't really make sense to me.
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I read several books, one of those being the Vax Facts, one of those being the Vaccine Friendly Plan.
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One of the things that didn't make sense to me initially was when I was told, as a pregnant woman,
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I couldn't have high levels of mercury, meaning don't eat raw fish.
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That didn't make sense, considering these vaccines that they're putting in my baby in day one have high levels of mercury.
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They say, you know, there's a big push to use deodorant that doesn't have aluminum in it,
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but you're going to give my child on day one vaccines that have like 30 times over the FDA recommended amount of aluminum in a baby,
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like virtually moments after she's born, just red flag, right?
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And so started reading, started doing some research, and I feel so encouraged in our decision to not vaccinate our baby at this point,
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especially with the recent news coming out from HHS surrounding the Hep B vaccine
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and seeing how the correlation between the Hep B vaccine and allergies and different allergens and things of that nature.
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So praise God we have an administration who's making this a priority and tackling the childhood vaccine schedule.
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There's a really powerful graphic that's out there that I think in the 1980s,
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your baby received like three vaccines, and now it's upwards of 70 or 80 by the time you're 12 years old.
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This was a conversation that almost couldn't be had five years ago, not publicly.
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We would have had to put this behind the paywall,
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and we would have had to be very cryptic and hush-hush about it.
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I think COVID changed so much because I had our first in 2019, and I just never thought about it because you trust the CDC.
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You don't think about these things being designated by the government and not trusting the government.
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And then COVID happened, and my pediatrician was such a bully about her vaccines, about us getting the COVID vaccine,
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that I just started, I don't know if it's just my personality, but I just started to say like,
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And so what I love now is that people do feel like they have the freedom to ask,
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and that they really want the information, and that you can't bully moms anymore because they actually know.
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I mean, make the choice that you think is best based on the facts, but base it on the facts,
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not on peer pressure or the pressure of your pediatrician.
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And I had no idea just how hard it was to find a pediatrician,
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even in the very red state of Tennessee that I live in,
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find a pediatrician that was willing to see your child if they didn't get the full vaccine schedule.
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And so we were turned away for some places because they said, look, we basically,
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we can't see you because that hinders our performance rating.
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They say, well, if we have 80% of children who come in that get the full childhood vaccine schedule,
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Even the medicalization side of all of the trans nonsense.
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It is the most, the biggest medical scandal I believe that we have ever seen in our,
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in any point in history is cutting off the healthy body parts and sterilizing young children.
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In the name of inclusion and affirmation or whatever other buzzwords they want to use.
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We use their diapers and wipes every day in our home and have for a while now.
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I would not be promoting these diapers if they didn't work.
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Even their lotions and their baby shampoos all come with really good ingredients.
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They also have a women's care line, a feminine care line.
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The good thing is they know the definition of a woman and they know the value of life inside
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Tell me about your show that you're about to launch, right?
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It will come out two times a week on Wednesdays and Fridays.
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I'm just very excited because I think there's a, as you know, and as you tend to, there's
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And the demographic that I feel very passionately about is young women.
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I'm so inspired even being here and seeing so many young women, by the way.
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And so talking all things motherhood and fitness and, of course, continuing to deliver on the
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cultural and political takes that I may have, but beyond that, I think there's a real opportunity.
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And so I'm excited to do what I can to help fill that.
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What else is coming down the pipeline for Riley and your family and your life?
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So we're still continuing on with getting on campuses.
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Obviously, that feels pertinent to say, given that we are here at AmFest.
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So this past semester, following the birth of my child, which is crazy, we were on 10
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different campuses, both high schools and I, it was crazy.
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Continuing to get on campuses, high schools and colleges.
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So going to certainly continue doing that in the new year.
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As I said, this, what's going on at the Supreme Court in January is a really big deal for
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And so excited to see, we won't have any sort of ruling until I would imagine June or July,
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but nonetheless, an important day for the family.
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Look, I'm, I told, it was funny, you know, you deliver the baby and you're graphic, but
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Just for everything you do, for the example that you set for courage.
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I am no longer in the generation that's in college and after college.
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And so when I'm looking behind to see, okay, do we have people that are coming up behind
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Because we don't just want to be the millennials or the Gen Xers that are saying what's true.
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And I'm just so thankful for you and for other people that are in your circle that are unapologetically
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Truthfully, on a variety of issues, I think even recently, how quick you were to call out
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Me seeing that, it gave me courage, which I felt like already a courageous person, right?
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Like I could take the attacks, but I still found myself hesitating on weighing in on this.
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Well, courage is contagious and you've shown us that.