Ep 1298 ｜ My 3 Takeaways from the Epstein Files
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The Epstein Files are back in the news! If you are overwhelmed or confused about this, don t worry, I got you! I ve got you covered with 3 lessons that we should take away from these latest headlines and the latest revelations about Epstein. We ve got all that and so much more on today s episode of Relatable.
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If you are overwhelmed or confused about this, don't worry.
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I've got three lessons that we should take away from these latest headlines and the latest
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We've got all of that and so, so much more on today's episode of Relatable.
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All right, we've got a lot to talk about today.
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I'm going to try to go through it as thoroughly, but also as concisely as I possibly can because
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there are so many important things that we need to talk about.
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So first, let's talk about the DOJ's latest release of the Epstein file.
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So on Friday, January 30th, the U.S. Department of Justice released this huge batch of documents,
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emails related to Jeffrey Epstein, and the DOJ has now published over 3 million additional
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pages of material in compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which President Trump
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And this latest release included more than 2,000 videos, 180,000 images, and that brings
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the total production to nearly 3.5 million pages.
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And so when you're asking, hey, you know, different people, why haven't you talked about
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Well, there's a lot to talk about because there is just so much to wade through.
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If you'll remember, the Epstein Files Transparency Act originally required the DOJ to produce all
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relevant files by December 19th, but the department cited the enormous volume of material, the need
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to redact all of the survivors, the victims identifying information as the reasons for the delayed
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releases. It included the photos and videos and court records, FBI and DOJ investigative materials,
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news clippings, emails, text messages, internal reports tied to Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
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And some of the files do mention prominent figures, including President Trump, including former
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President Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, though these individuals that I just listed in these files,
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they have not been tied to any wrongdoing, any substantiated criminal activity in connection with this
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case. It is important to note that a mention of a famous individual does not necessarily mean that they
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were involved in Epstein's nefarious activities. Like some people I talked to, Glenn Beck on the radio
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yesterday, and he was saying that he was mentioned in the Epstein files. And if you just say that sentence
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alone, that, of course, sounds really scary. But the reason he was mentioned is because Jeffrey Epstein
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was talking to one of his friends about how much they hate Glenn Beck, which, of course, is like a huge badge
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of honor. So just because you hear, hey, someone was mentioned in the Epstein files, you have to kind of like
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know the context to know whether or not it's sketchy or criminal. Also important to remember that the Epstein
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files, they're not the same thing as the Epstein client list, which has yet to be released. Obviously, we want to
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know that. We want to bring those people to justice. We want to see justice for the victims. We want to know who was
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actually a part of this predatory criminal activity of sex trafficking, of preying upon minors. There is so much in these
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documents that it is really difficult to decipher. You have to verify the contents. You have to know if
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these images are real. Are they actually found on the DOJ website? Or is this just AI? You've got a lot
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of people using Photoshop and other tools to create false emails to try to present these fake accusations.
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Also, within these documents, there's uncorroborated tips. And so, you know, there's people saying, oh,
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to the FBI, this person was involved in this crime, and we just don't know if that's actually true.
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The FBI has said that many of the documents have not been deemed credible. That's according to the
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Associated Press. And then a lot of the files lack context. They lack dates or corroborating evidence,
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even when we see circulating. And I just thank the Lord that I haven't seen these. But if you do see
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circulating disturbing photos, emails in the files, this evidence alone doesn't sufficiently provide
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grounds to prosecute anyone. And so if you're wondering, why isn't Pam Bondi putting all of
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these people in handcuffs, there's obviously a process, a justice due process process that has
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to be gone through in order to see if someone actually participated in criminal activity and
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should be prosecuted. One part of this is that we need to really be wary of our confirmation bias.
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And so we've got a lot of people on both sides wanting to see Trump caught up in this nefarious
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network, or you want to see Bill Gates if you're on the other side caught up in criminal activity. But
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we just have to make sure that our confirmation bias on either side of the aisle is not leading us
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to wrongly validate accusations that just aren't based in fact. One example of this, people are
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talking about Zoran Mamdani, maybe his mother was a part of Jeffrey Epstein's network. But AI is
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So there is the appearance of Mira Nair, who is Zora Mamdani's mother, that has led to a number
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of conspiracy theories about his ties to the dead predator, Jeff Epstein, including that Mamdani
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was the illegitimate son of Epstein. And so you see all of these apparently AI created
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images that flooded the internet and people saying that Mamdani and Jeffrey Epstein actually
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look alike. But the truth is Nair's only appearance that we can see in these Epstein files is contained
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in an email from a publicist, Peggy Siegel, to Epstein on October 21st, 2009. Siegel mentions that
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an after party for Amelia, a film Nair directed, was held at Ghislaine Maxwell's townhouse.
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Nair was in attendance. Jeff Bezos and Bill Clinton were also mentioned to have been at the party,
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but no wrongdoing was mentioned. No crime was mentioned there. And of course,
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there is no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein is Zoran Mamdani's father. President Trump also has
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something to say about his mention in the files. He is mentioned several times in this latest release,
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including a dozen tips into the FBI regarding sexual misconduct. These claims are unverified.
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they're unsubstantiated. We don't know the context or why someone is sending these tips. And so
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that's all we can go with right now. None of the files that are included in this release that include
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President Trump are direct communication between Epstein and Trump. The New York Times found 5,000
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files referencing Trump. And then there's one example where Epstein emails his private investigator about
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whether he should call Trump about Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's accusers. And then Trump's
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reaction is that the Epstein files actually absolve him of any wrongdoing. Here's thought six.
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What do you think of the latest movies of Epstein files? And do you think your critics will be
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satisfied with? Well, they should be because it looked like this guy Wolf was a writer was conspiring
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with Epstein to do harm to me. And I didn't see it myself. And I was told by some very important
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people that not only does it absolve me, it's the opposite of what people were hoping, you know,
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the radical level. I do think it's important to note that Trump signed the legislation that
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demanded transparency for the Epstein files. And so he has been a part of the crew that has been
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calling for the files to be released. Now, I am also not an apologist for every level of Trump's
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morality. I think that we have to wait to see what actually comes out, what evidence we see about all
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these different kinds of people who have been caught up in this very nefarious web. I'm very thankful for
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President Trump and how strong he has been on so many policies that have made our country better.
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And I literally thank the Lord every day that Kamala Harris is not president. But look, as Christians,
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we have to be completely objective and fair and impartial when it comes to speaking to biblical truth
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and calling evil evil and good good. And so I think we got to wait to see a lot. There's a lot that we
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have yet to see when it comes to the evidence surrounding these people who were allegedly
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involved with Jeffrey Epstein. And it's important for all of us on both sides to make sure that we
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are not pointing fingers in the direction of people that we already just didn't like simply because we
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didn't like them. Now, there was one person who was caught up in this that I'm very disappointed
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about. And it does seem like these emails are verified. In fact, physician Peter Atiyah has
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said that these emails are real. Most of you probably know who Peter Atiyah is. He is not
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only a physician, but he has written lots of bestselling books. He has really become an expert
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on heart health, on metabolic health, and giving all kinds of wellness advice that I know a lot of
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people had have benefited from. I don't even want to read all of these emails. There's just all kinds
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of gross, like perverted stuff that no man should be talking about with anyone, but especially Jeffrey
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Epstein. And of course, Peter Atiyah is like married with children. And so it's just really
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disappointing. Low moral character stuff. This is someone that people have trusted in a lot of ways with
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lifestyle advice. And he even gives wisdom on emotional health and spiritual well-being. And so
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when you're hoisting yourself up as an authority in that way, you want to be able to trust that that
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person has good discernment. And at the very least, I think that we can say that he didn't have good
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discernment. Now, it doesn't look, at least from these emails, like he was involved in criminal
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activity, but he does admit that this really was him emailing Jeffrey Epstein. He said that he
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apologizes. He regrets putting himself in a position where emails, some of them embarrassing,
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tasteless, and indefensible are now public. And that is on me. I accept that reality and the
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humiliation that comes with it. So that is very unfortunate. And whether it's Peter Atiyah,
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or whether it is Donald Trump, or anyone else who was involved in any way with Jeffrey Epstein,
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it makes me think of a few lessons that I think all of us can take away, but especially those
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who kind of get into this upper echelon of society and they start being tempted by powerful people.
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Okay. Lesson number one that I thought about is that we have to notice the nature of sin. We have
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to notice the nature of sin because sin makes you stupid. Lust, envy, selfish ambition,
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they all have a way of arresting our thinking. And Satan does his most effective work by overplaying
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the benefits of sin in our minds and downplaying its eventual consequences. And these powerful people
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and science, medicine, business, finance, and politics all got caught up in Epstein's web and
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they were enticed by this promise of connection and greater power and maybe unfettered pleasure in a lot
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of cases. And some of them probably didn't intend to be involved in a criminal enterprise, but little
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by little and small justification by small justification, they found themselves connected
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to an evil person. And in some cases, they themselves started practicing evil things. And so that is the
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nature of sin. That is how things start with the seemingly excusable little step in the direction of
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wickedness. Number two, a lesson that I think we can all take here. We have to recalibrate our
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definition of success. I heard this phrase years ago. I think I read it in a Christian book when I was
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in high school. Man's rejection is God's protection. So I think we have to ask ourselves, what if the
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raise that you didn't get or the promotion that you didn't receive or the campaign that you didn't win
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or the friend group that didn't accept you or that party that you didn't get invited to, what if all
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of that was actually protection from the corruption of your soul? What if God knew that that thing that
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you wanted and that you felt like you deserved would actually end up harming you and hindering you
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spiritually? Maybe that promotion or that party wasn't going to put you in the echelon of Epstein,
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but maybe it was going to put you in cahoots with the wrong people. Maybe it was going to encourage
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pride or covetousness in you. And one thing we know about God that we see over and over again in our
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own lives and throughout scripture is that he cares much more about our holiness than our happiness,
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and he will stop at absolutely nothing to accomplish his will. Jesus's words have come to mind many
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times over the last few days as I'm seeing all of these emails and the commentary on it, and I think
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about this passage. Again, I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle
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than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God. That's Matthew 19 24. And also, but those who
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desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires
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that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils.
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It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with
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many pangs. That's 1 Timothy 6, 9 through 10. Now, caveat, that does not mean that while
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wealth is inherently evil or that we shouldn't earn money for our work. We read that in 1 Timothy 5,
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18. Of course, the Proverbs are full of advice for how to be wise with our money so that we can
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provide for our families and be generous with others. And Jesus also makes clear in Matthew 19,
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after saying that it's difficult for a rich person to go to heaven, that with God, all things are
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possible. Our salvation is not about our bank account. It's based solely on God's mercy.
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That's Romans 9 16. However, what we do see here is that the seeking of wealth and power
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for the sake of wealth and power has a way of crowding out godly affections and replacing those
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affections with idolatry. So we should thank the Lord for what he gives and what he takes away,
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knowing that his glory and our holiness is ultimately his goal. So we recalibrate the definition of success.
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And then number three, we should be grateful for a Christian civilization. Now, this might sound
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scandalous, what I'm about to say at first, but it is true. The only reason that we have a rightful
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aversion to Jeffrey Epstein is because of Christianity. Disgust toward pedophilia and preying
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upon minors is not self-evident. It is not universal. There are Jeffrey Epsteins throughout history,
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across a wide variety of cultures. In fact, in many non-Western nations today, child marriage or
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raping underage girls is not seen as perverse. It's not seen as criminal. The reason the West and the
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United States has a general consensus around the evil of pedophilia is because of Christianity.
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There is this book that if you listen to this show or you've seen me give a speech, you've probably
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heard me talk about it. And it's by Owen Backey. He's a historian and it's called When Children
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Became People. And he analyzes the dehumanization of babies and children in the ancient Roman Empire.
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They were aborted. They were left to die via something called exposure in the wilderness.
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They were slain after birth. They were used as labor. They were sold as prostitutes.
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And it's because they didn't possess the physical strength that was lauded by Rome. And they didn't
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possess the full intellect or the logos that was lauded by Greece. So they were treated as kind of
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subhuman. And it wasn't until Christians introduced the world to the Imago Dei and preached this radical
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message of equality before our creator that slowly but surely the world changed how it saw children,
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not as animals, but as these vulnerable people in need of extra protection. And so these people,
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these Christians who worshiped a God, who came to earth as an embryo and was heralded by the angels
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as a newborn, changed how the world valued children. Plus, it's important to note that unlike Islam,
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the model for marriage in the Bible from the very beginning is between one man and one woman who are
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immediately primarily tasked with being fruitful and multiplying, which can only be done post-puberty.
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So inherently within Christianity is this model of sexuality that is only to be within the balance
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of marriage between one man and one woman. This is the standard that Christianity sets.
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So the revulsion to Jeffrey Epstein and his ilk, whose actions are incredibly common throughout history,
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is actually evidence of the vestiges of the Christian conscience that forged the West and
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inspired the words that we read in the Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self-evident
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that all men are created equal. However, the problem is that these truths are not actually
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self-evident. They are sacred. They are revealed to us, not by common sense, but actually by our creator.
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And we can trust, we can know for sure that as we lose our Christian conscience in America and as we
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move away from the creator, all the things that we take for granted will soon be lost. The dignity of
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children, the honoring of marriage and the family, impartial justice, the entire concept of human rights.
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Now we already see that in so many cases, but it's only going to get worse. And that is why Christians
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have to carry this baton that we have been carrying for 2,000 years of caring for the most vulnerable,
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of seeking true impartial justice for those who oppress the vulnerable and those who do wickedness.
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And so Christians should care about this. Some people ask, why should we care about this?
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And it's a lot and it's overwhelming and it might feel like it has nothing to do with us,
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but justice should always matter to the Christian. Children should always matter to the Christian.
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Ephesians 5.11 tells us a lesson that we should all take to the bank and that is take no part in
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the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. All right. Speaking of people exposing
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that's what she goes by. I'm not, I can't lie to you and say that I have listened to a bunch of
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Nicki Minaj songs. In fact, it's probably been since college, but I am very happy to see her
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political evolution. I first saw her, you know, a couple months ago, speaking out on behalf of
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Christians in Nigeria, which I think is an amazing way to use your platform. And so kudos to her. Of
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course, she went to the Turning Point America Fest event, and then she's had just like this funny back
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and forth with J.D. Vance, too. And now she is really putting her foot on the gas. She's calling
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out Democrats. She called out Don Lemon, too. Some of it, like her songs, are just not relatable
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appropriate. We got kids listening to this podcast, so we're not going to be saying everything that
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Nicki Minaj called Don Lemon. But here's one thing that she said. She says, any Christian, this was
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on February 1st, who votes Democrat again, is a fool. They're showing people that it's okay to
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disrupt a church during worship. This is how they truly feel about you. The veil is lifted. No morals,
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no integrity. It's not enough for them to have an opinion. They've escalated to physical intrusion
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of places of worship. The demons inside of them are so bothered all the time. Okay, yes. A very
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articulate way to explain that, and I happen to completely agree with it. She posted lots of
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things on X. She said, what sensible, forward-thinking, cutting-edge, leading nation is having
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a debate on whether or not there should be voter I.D.? Like, they're actually fighting not to have
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people present I.D. while voting for your leaders. Do you get it? Also, an incredible point. Very,
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very true. She also said, as they do their ritual tonight, so she is, I'm assuming, talking about the
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Grammys, God Almighty will reveal himself to them. The ritual will backfire on them. God will not be
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mocked. Blessed is the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Every tongue that rises up against me in judgment
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shall be condemned and put to shame. Okay. Okay. Not exactly what I was expecting. In fact, a lot of times
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you see these celebrities who, say they defend Christians, or they support Donald Trump, or they
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partner with a conservative organization. They get a lot of backlash, and so they start to backpedal a
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little bit, or they'll kind of signal to the other side to show, I'm not really a part of them. Don't
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best president ever, and I am going all in against the Democrats, which is just a very interesting
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development. I'm very grateful to have her, you know, over on this side. Now, a lot of people have
00:26:35.340
asked, is she being honest about her shift towards conservatism and Christianity, or does she know
00:26:42.800
where the cultural winds are blowing? And look, I don't know. You know, I don't really know what's in
00:26:49.600
her heart and mind. I think just like anyone else, I can hope for the best. I was very optimistic about
00:26:55.460
Kanye West, his gospel album. I still sing those songs. It was really good. And I think God used that
00:27:02.580
moment to bring glory to himself, maybe lead people to the gospel and to church who hadn't been before
00:27:08.800
or who had walked away from that. And of course, he has had a very unfortunate journey since then.
00:27:16.440
And so I think that we just have to appreciate this moment for what it is, appreciate the truth being
00:27:23.120
spoken, pray that it is genuine. Obviously, we've got some different, we've got some issues with
00:27:30.100
the sexual promiscuity and the promotion of immodesty when it comes to Nicki Minaj's, you know,
00:27:36.480
pictures and public persona and the songs that she sings. However, that doesn't mean that salvation
00:27:44.980
isn't genuine, if that is something that has occurred, or that she might just be early on in her
00:27:51.540
journey of sanctification. And that's what I pray. I pray that this is genuine, a genuine change of
00:27:59.940
heart. And also that there is true repentance. And so let's pray for her. Let's pray that God would
00:28:07.700
use her. Let's pray that God would draw her to himself. And I think that we can hold both of
00:28:14.320
those things at the same time. We want to make sure that we are not like the older brother and
00:28:18.460
the prodigal son story that we're saying, oh, well, that person, they were just too bad. They did all of
00:28:24.060
those things. So there's no way they could be a Christian now. That's not true. In fact, Ephesians 2 tells us
00:28:29.760
that all of us were dead in our sin apart from Christ. The thing about being dead is that there
00:28:34.920
aren't different levels of being dead. You're just dead and you can't pick yourself up. You can't
00:28:39.880
clean yourself off. There's nothing you can do to earn your salvation or make yourself alive. That's
00:28:45.320
why that chapter goes on to say, by grace through faith, you have been saved. And this was not your
00:28:50.900
own doing. It was a gift of God given to us in grace. And Nicki Minaj, just like everyone else,
00:28:56.960
can receive that grace from Christ. And that grace over time changes what we think about sex.
00:29:02.360
It changes what we think about relationships. It changes what we think about what we wear and how
00:29:06.800
we present ourselves and the words we use and how we treat other people. And so we have to hope that
00:29:13.900
this Christian conversion is genuine and that she is on the same road of sanctification as the rest of
00:29:19.300
us. Even so, I really appreciate her boldness so much and being able to say the things that are true.
00:29:25.120
And so I say, welcome, Nicki Minaj. Welcome over to the side. All right. We got to talk about a
00:29:30.840
little bit about the Grammys. I know it's Wednesday, so it's been a few days, but there are some good
00:29:36.520
things that happened at the Grammys that we should be excited about, like the name of Jesus being
00:29:42.000
proclaimed. And then, of course, there's the ridiculous hypocritical stuff that I really just
00:29:46.520
want to dive into when it comes to Billie Eilish, just as a reminder, in case you needed one, that these
00:29:53.220
people are not who you should be going to for political wisdom, for moral wisdom, because they
00:29:58.400
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Okay, so we've got some celebrities with this ice out pin on. It's kind of like the same thing a few
00:31:18.880
years ago. Remember like the time's up? I wonder if there's a company that makes these and passes
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these out. Look, we've got Justin Bieber, and we've got Haley Bieber. And I just want to say one thing
00:31:30.020
before we move on, because I watched them on the red carpet. Why do they seem like they don't like each
00:31:35.700
other? Why do they seem like they don't like each other? I just think it's weird. And he doesn't,
00:31:40.520
I don't know. They just don't seem happy. And a lot of people are unhappy when they're outsourcing
00:31:46.520
their compassion to social justice causes. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
00:31:51.240
I think they also claim to be Christians. I would love to see more of that on display,
00:31:57.700
like a Jesus wins pin. That would be cool. But instead, we have Haley Bieber not only supporting the
00:32:04.000
abolishing of ICE, who is daily rounding up sex criminals who have no right to be here.
00:32:10.960
But also, she is supporting Planned Parenthood with Chelsea Handler. So we've got all of these
00:32:17.160
celebrities who are at the, was it the Grammys? I always forget. They were at the Grammys. They
00:32:23.180
have these security guards. Many of them have their own personal security. If I were trying to
00:32:28.480
infiltrate the Grammys without a ticket, without maybe, I don't know, documents, I would be thrown
00:32:34.500
out. I would be, I don't know, deported from the Grammys. And yet you have people like Billie Eilish,
00:32:41.300
who is like, she's got something deeply like disturbing spiritual going on in her life.
00:32:47.480
She is saying, you know what? No one is illegal on stolen land.
00:33:03.960
I feel really hopeful in this room. And I feel like we just need to keep fighting and speaking
00:33:10.080
up and protesting and our, our voices really do matter. And the people matter.
00:33:14.660
I just, it's so hard for me. It's so hard for me to watch this. Just the clapping like seals and
00:33:22.060
the nodding and the Hunger Games attire. It's just all too much. It's just all, it's all too
00:33:28.920
like animal farm to me. You've got these people who have access to all of this security and all of
00:33:36.680
these benefits of being wealthy. And they simply don't think that you or I should have the same
00:33:43.420
protection. Those of us who can't hire private security and who don't live in these gated
00:33:48.600
communities like they do. Like we also deserve to be protected from predators. They simply don't
00:33:55.460
think that we do. Sports broadcaster, Emily Austin, who attended the Grammys described what their
00:34:04.420
At the Grammys yesterday, as someone who was there, I walk in crazy security checks,
00:34:09.180
barricades, 15 feet tall, police with machine guns. Because that wasn't enough, each celebrity
00:34:15.620
had their own private entourage of security. So clearly they feel that they believe security
00:34:22.600
should exist. They believe in borders when it comes to their homes. They live in gated communities
00:34:26.940
in million dollar mansions, but then they say, oh no, no, no, no. Borders in the country are bad.
00:34:32.340
And ICE is bad for deporting illegal immigrants who crossed those borders illegally. But I deserve all the
00:34:37.840
security and protection in the world. It's just my country doesn't. It really reminds me of like
00:34:41.980
communism for the not for me, because it's very easy for them to go out there and talk,
00:34:47.200
but they'll never put their money where their mouth is.
00:34:50.300
Yeah, that's absolutely correct. If we do a flashback to 2019, this post with a picture of
00:34:56.140
Billie Eilish, you see her surrounded by her security. Like, and I just want to make clear,
00:35:02.000
I think she should have security. I think all of these people should have security because
00:35:06.000
there are crazy people out there. I don't blame them at all for living in a gated community,
00:35:10.400
for being able to afford a home with, you know, a guarded gate at the front, to have their private
00:35:15.880
security detail of these armed men. I think that is really good sense. You should be able to have as
00:35:21.240
much security as you can afford. They just, again, don't think that you or I should be afforded not
00:35:27.480
even this level of security, but just like bare minimum of law enforcement officers being able to
00:35:33.320
arrest people who are in violation of the law. These people who say ICE out, it really is the
00:35:39.120
most radical position. It's not some nuanced take that, hey, like, maybe we should only focus on the
00:35:45.240
criminals, or maybe we should have some border enforcement, but maybe this is going too far.
00:35:51.220
Let's fix our immigration laws to make this more streamlined. They are saying ICE out. So abolish ICE.
00:35:57.720
This is as crazy as defund the police, just like defunding the police in Portland and New York and all
00:36:03.480
of these liberal cities led to more murders and more crime, more violation of the rights of innocent
00:36:08.300
people. So will abolishing ICE. Like, they are rescuing kids from sex trafficking by deporting some of
00:36:15.660
these awful criminals. Now, is everyone they're deporting? Some kind of violent sex offender? No. And
00:36:21.900
that's also okay. We love for them to focus on the sex offenders and the cartel members and the MS-13
00:36:29.100
gang members. But also, in order to have sovereignty and borders as a country, you have to enforce
00:36:34.980
immigration law and kick the people out who are not here legally. People understand this on a micro level
00:36:42.560
when it comes to their life and their home. They have a really hard time understanding this or refusal
00:36:48.320
to understand this on the macro level. My good friend Samuel Say posted this on X. It ended up
00:36:53.540
getting tens of thousands of likes, probably 100,000 likes at this point. He says, Billie Eilish has a
00:36:59.500
restraining order against a man who illegally entered her home. So she had her own form of ICE
00:37:07.620
to enforce her border law, but we can't. Let's talk about the stolen land that Billie Eilish's home is on.
00:37:17.100
She's got a $14 million mansion built atop the former site of the Tonga, I don't even know how to
00:37:23.320
pronounce that, burial ground, and a park for single mothers. So she said, you know what, I want this
00:37:31.820
mansion on this. I'm going to conquer this land. I don't care about the indigenous people who used to
00:37:38.740
live here. Again, it's okay for her. It's not okay for anyone else. And I just want to say, I should have
00:37:44.940
said this up front. We don't live on stolen land. We live on conquered land, like everyone else in
00:37:51.260
the entire earth. Every nation was conquered. That is actually the history of humanity. That is the
00:37:58.700
history of civilization. Conquered and being conquered. Enslaving and being enslaved. We don't have to like
00:38:07.480
it. But that is what human history is. And if you feel so badly about it, then you should go
00:38:13.920
move somewhere else that you think is not stolen land. Also, this is the gate that is in front of
00:38:20.900
Billie Eilish's home. It's surrounded by a wall. And this is impenetrable gates. You can't even see
00:38:31.340
through it. And again, she should have that. But according to the New York Post,
00:38:37.160
she issued a restraining order against a stalker, a 39-year-old Christopher Anderson,
00:38:43.540
breaking into her family's childhood home in LA. Court documents show that Anderson visited the
00:38:48.200
property five times in 22 and 23. Eilish described the situation as causing her substantial anxiety,
00:38:56.220
fear, and emotional distress. Oh, like probably Lake and Riley felt. Kate Steinle probably felt
00:39:01.520
anxiety and distress when the person who killed her, who had been deported five times, but was
00:39:08.600
seeking refuge in the sanctuary city of San Francisco, who refused to comply with ICE, with immigration
00:39:18.020
authorities. He stole a gun. He shot her in the chest. Her last words were, help me, daddy.
00:39:24.480
As she breathed her last. She was killed by someone who should not have been here and would not have
00:39:31.480
been here if it weren't for the compassionate policies put in place by San Francisco, the kind
00:39:38.100
of policies that Billie Eilish supports. So that's the bad. We've got all the hypocrisy in the world
00:39:45.400
coming from Hollywood. These are not our moral exemplars, and they really don't have as much influence
00:39:50.780
over our elections as they think they do. Thank the Lord. Otherwise, Donald Trump wouldn't have won in
00:39:57.280
2016. He wouldn't have won in 2024. So we can continue to highlight their hypocrisy just as a
00:40:03.960
good reminder that we shouldn't be looking to them in any way, but we can ignore them when it comes to
00:40:13.300
their direction in our lives. However, there's good things that happened as well. We've got Jelly Roll.
00:40:18.580
He's a singer, and he talks about how Jesus changed his life. Yes and amen. Top four.
00:40:25.080
There was a time in my life, y'all, that I was broken. That's why I wrote this album. I didn't
00:40:31.060
think I had a chance, y'all. There was days that I thought the darkest things. I was a horrible human.
00:40:35.080
There was a moment in my life that all I had was a Bible this big and a radio the same size and a
00:40:39.400
six-by-eight-foot cell, and I believed that those two things could change my life. I believed that music
00:40:44.660
had the power to change my life, and God had the power to change my life. And I want to tell y'all
00:40:49.420
right now, Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is not owned
00:40:55.980
by no music label. Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have a relationship with him. I love you, Lord.
00:41:03.580
Yes and amen. That is absolutely true. Love people giving glory to God in moments like that
00:41:09.900
instead of saying stupid things about politics. Everyone should just listen to what Ricky Gervais
00:41:17.320
said a couple years ago, that none of these people have a place to be preaching to anyone
00:41:24.700
else about morality or being educated. You just don't. Your carbon footprint is much bigger than
00:41:30.860
all of ours. Your security detail is much bigger than all of ours. And most of the problems you talk
00:41:35.520
about don't really affect you, and the policies that you are advocating for won't have a negative
00:41:40.700
impact on you, but they'll have a negative impact on us. So just remember that next time.
00:41:47.500
All right. We have some really good news, and we need good news. There's no better news than the news
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that Jelly Roll just told us of the gospel. But good things are happening in the way of justice,
00:41:58.280
particularly for those who once quote unquote transitioned or attempted to transition to the
00:42:05.180
opposite sex via surgery. Well, those botched surgeries unfortunately have ruined the lives of
00:42:12.080
so many, and now detransitioners are fighting back through malpractice lawsuits. All right. We've got
00:42:18.700
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ConcernedWomen.org slash Allie. This is according to the New York Post. Fox Varian is a woman who once
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And recently she was awarded $1.6 million for past and future pain and suffering, as well as $400,000
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for future medical expenses after winning a lawsuit against her doctors that were accused of pushing
00:44:00.180
the life-altering surgery on her when she was only a minor. Varian's case is the first G-transitioner
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malpractice lawsuit in the country to go to trial and win. The jury found that psychologist Kenneth
00:44:13.600
Einhorn and plastic surgeon Simon Chin that they were liable for medical malpractice. They ruled that
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they failed to follow proper standards of care, adequately screened for other conditions, and
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obtained fully informed consent before proceeding with the irreversible procedure. Varian's lawsuit
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claimed that these doctors rushed her into the surgery, with her psychologist in particular pushing
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the idea aggressively, not exploring alternatives or potential co-occurring issues like depression
00:44:41.480
or autism. And her mother testified in court that she only agreed to the surgery under intense pressure
00:44:48.960
from these doctors. She feared that denying it could actually lead to her daughter's suicide. That's
00:44:54.960
what they say. Do you want a living son or a dead daughter? It's so manipulative and just unfounded
00:45:00.260
in the data. She personally opposed it, but she felt like, okay, if I want my child to live,
00:45:06.000
I've got to consent to this. In 2024, we interviewed a D-transitioner. Her name is Sorin Aldaco.
00:45:14.020
And she is an incredible young woman, but she had a very similar story. She believed she was a boy and at
00:45:21.400
17, completely negligent doctors prescribed testosterone. And then at 19, so barely a legal adult,
00:45:29.360
she underwent a double mastectomy at Austin's Crane Center. And that led to, I mean, so sad,
00:45:36.620
listening to her story, seeing the pictures, these severe complications like hematomas, internal
00:45:42.200
bleeding. She reached out to her doctors for help and the doctors completely just spurned her
00:45:49.360
attempts at getting seen and getting help. They abandoned her. So in 2023, she filed a lawsuit against
00:45:57.000
five of her mental and medical providers for the same thing, medical malpractice and negligence. Here,
00:46:03.680
Sorin is on my show talking about this. Top five. That's the reason for a lawsuit like this. Yeah. I mean,
00:46:09.360
it's medical malpractice. The hormone provider did not provide me with adequate informed consent,
00:46:15.640
should not have given me the hormones to begin with. And the surgeons, I mean, we just talked about
00:46:20.780
this in depth. Like they really dropped the ball, um, not just in giving me the surgery, but doing
00:46:26.180
such an awful job with the aftercare and with being aware of how my body was reacting to this
00:46:31.880
very invasive procedure. Go listen to that conversation from the summer of 2024. Sorin is
00:46:39.060
an incredibly articulate advocate, um, for her cause. And I'm just so thankful for the courage of these
00:46:46.800
young women and these young men to come forth because it takes a lot of, it takes effort. Um,
00:46:53.100
it takes bravery. It takes being willing to relive some of the most traumatizing years and months and
00:47:01.380
days and hour of your life. Sometimes it puts you in opposition to your friends, to your former
00:47:07.640
community, to your family. There's really difficult conversations that have to be had with your parents
00:47:13.400
who consented to this or the people in your life that affirmed you because they thought they were
00:47:19.400
following empathy and doing the right thing. And so these people coming out and, uh, suing these
00:47:27.900
doctors, it is re it really takes a lot. So let us pray for them. This I believe is one of many
00:47:36.460
victories that we will see. Here's the point. Yes. To get a justice for these young people
00:47:43.120
who were pushed into the brutalization and the maiming of their bodies, but also to make doctors
00:47:52.120
afraid. Like I'm just going to say that out loud. It is to make doctors realize that the cost of doing
00:48:00.640
these surgeries, pushing cross-sex hormones, pushing puberty blockers is too high. I want them to feel
00:48:08.660
like I'm going to get sued. I'm going to lose my license. I'm going to lose millions of dollars
00:48:14.320
if I perform this double mastectomy. If I chemically castrate this child who is deceived about
00:48:22.060
their gender, that's what we want. And you might think that sounds harsh. No, that's the point of
00:48:27.900
these medical malpractice lawsuits, no matter what, like we want all doctors to be afraid of messing up.
00:48:34.620
We want there to be consequences for messing up. This is not just messing up. I mean,
00:48:39.580
this is wicked. This is evil. I personally think you should go to jail, especially if it's a minor.
00:48:45.140
If you perform a cosmetic double mastectomy on a minor, if you chemically castrate a child,
00:48:52.920
if you pump a child's body with cross-sex hormones or arrest their puberty because they think that they
00:49:00.540
are the opposite gender, you should go to prison for decades. It's evil. It is abuse. And so this is
00:49:08.040
the very beginning, I will say, in the road to justice for this. Okay? So I am so thankful for Soren.
00:49:17.160
I'm thankful for Fox Varian, who is, and I'm thankful, by the way, also to these attorneys.
00:49:23.040
There are many more lucrative endeavors that attorneys could take. And yet, I've talked to
00:49:31.360
some of these lawyers. They are doing this because they really believe in justice. And I hope that this
00:49:38.920
just starts the domino effect and that we in our lifetimes can see an end to these surgeries,
00:49:46.640
especially for children. So let us pray for that. And I just want to say,
00:49:51.900
every single person out there who has spoken any bit of truth, who has exercised any bit of courage,
00:49:59.220
who has shown any bit of resolve or clarity when it comes to the reality that no one is born in the
00:50:05.820
wrong body, you are part of justice for these people. Do not discount your contribution to bringing
00:50:14.300
sanity to the gender conversation in this country and bringing justice to these young people.
00:50:21.080
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make sure that we got to this article that I thought was fascinating, also very disturbing in
00:51:54.240
the New York Times. If you missed why we're calling this lifestyle pitter patter, it's because Hillary
00:51:59.680
Rodham Clinton in an op-ed for The Atlantic said that I'm a Christian right-wing influencer who talks
00:52:05.320
about lifestyle pitter patter, which is actually just laughable because I don't know what that means
00:52:09.420
and it's not true. But we'll talk, we'll say this is lifestyle pitter patter as we discuss the rise of
00:52:16.520
platonic co-parenting according to the New York Times. So last week, New York Times published an article
00:52:23.040
about this rising popularity of co-parenting among friends. So in search of a platonic co-parent
00:52:30.160
is the title. So that means no expectation of romantic relationship or marriage, but this is
00:52:37.200
a man and a woman or maybe two or more individuals that come together to raise kids, but they don't
00:52:46.640
have sexual relations and they don't have romantic feelings for each other. So these co-parents
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enter the arrangement as acquaintances, sometimes as close friends, building the family around,
00:52:59.180
sharing parenting responsibilities. Co-parents are thus free to see or even marry other people
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as they wish. And actually this reminded me of Van Jones. He talked about this a couple of years ago.
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I think I wrote an article about it for World Magazine. He co-parents with his friend and he
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calls it conscious co-parenting. So this is not something, so this is his fourth child overall. This
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is his second child with his friend. So this is not something that's new, but I guess it's now
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becoming trendier. So more and more people, according to the New York Times, are doing what
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Van Jones is doing, meeting potential platonic co-parents through dedicated dating apps. And so
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there are apps for this. Mod Amelie, I think that's Modern Family, Let's Be Parents, and co-parents.
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These let friends or singles or matched strangers find each other specifically for shared parenting
00:53:52.740
without romance. Users connect by discussing parenting values, expectations, and logistics
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up front, making it easier to build a family intentionally. This is how they market it.
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The platforms are really popular. Mod Amelie has 30,000 users, co-parents 150,000 users. Apparently,
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there are 260,000 users on these three platforms combined. So there are some reasons that people
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have for doing this. They're single or they're same-sex attracted. And so they know that they
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can't naturally have children, but they want to be able to do that. Maybe they can't afford
00:54:32.540
surrogacy. They don't want to bear the responsibilities of parenting alone. If they are a single person,
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they believe that they're avoiding some kind of emotional baggage, trauma, or complications from past
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relationships or divorces. And then the New York Times interviewed these people, this woman named
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Raven. She's 33. She said, you know, I just want a teammate. I don't really need a romantic partner.
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I feel like I need to separate two huge decisions. Who do I want to date and who do I want to parent
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with? Oh my goodness. Zachary, 34, matched with Amanda, 47. Now they have two sons through IVF.
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He says, I'm not anti-marriage, but this is better for me. And I think that is the resounding
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commonality that I see here. This is better for me. I wanted this. This helped me. The question that
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I don't see answered in any of these social experiments, including this one, is what about
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the children? Is this better for children? Or is this best for children? This is really another
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example of using children to fulfill adult desires. And actually worse than that, sacrificing child
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well-being to fulfill adult desires. So you are starting off your child's life in a very disordered
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way. Adults should not be thinking, what do I want? And how can I get this child to fulfill my wants?
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You see how that thinking leads to all kinds of evil. We should be thinking, what environment is
00:56:11.700
best for the child? There is this theory. It's really a myth called the family diversity myth. And
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we've talked about it with a scholar on my show with a professor, Brad Wilcox from the University
00:56:23.000
of Virginia. This belief that children just need love. They just need adults that will take care of
00:56:29.240
them. And if all of their material needs are met, then they'll be happy. There is no data that shows
00:56:34.560
that. Data shows over and over again that children need a father. And when they don't have a present
00:56:40.940
father in the home, they are more likely to develop an eating disorder. They are more likely to be
00:56:45.440
sexually promiscuous as teens. They are more likely to be delinquent as teens. They are more likely to
00:56:50.260
fall into poverty, more likely to fall into teen pregnancy. There are all kinds of things that
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tend to happen when a child is fatherless. That doesn't always happen, but statistically it is
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far more likely. We have less data on motherlessness because it's a historical aberration. Most of the
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time, mothers don't leave their child because of that biological and physiological bond that happens
00:57:15.640
during pregnancy and childbirth. And so we should be thinking, why are we creating this historical
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aberration by allowing two men to parent together? Why are we creating this unstable environment for a
00:57:30.580
child just because two parents want something? Just because you have a good desire does not mean you
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are justified in obtaining that desire. I think all people need to realize that. It's just because
00:57:43.860
we're pro-life does not mean that we want more babies no matter what. It doesn't mean that the ends
00:57:49.760
justify the means. We want more marriages first, and then we want more children. I don't just want
00:57:56.680
more children. I want more families. I want more marriage because God knew what he was doing when he
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married Adam and Eve in the garden and then told them to be fruitful and multiply. In fact, we see
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throughout scripture, when there is a child that is born outside of marriage, bad things happen. As I've
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said many times, as I said on my Jubilee debate, no wives, no problems. When Abraham had surrogates,
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he used his concubines. When Jacob had multiple children with multiple women, there was jealousy.
00:58:29.520
There was strife. Sometimes children like Ishmael weren't taken care of, like Isaac, like the other
00:58:36.620
children. And so we see that anything outside of the stability of the marriage between one woman
00:58:45.620
and one man actually creates a lot of instability and a lot of insecurity for children. We also know
00:58:54.660
statistically that the most dangerous person in a child's home statistically is the unrelated male.
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So when you have a woman who has born a child with someone, she starts dating someone else,
00:59:09.280
you've got boyfriends, you've got stepdad coming in, that child's risk of being abused, severely abused
00:59:16.660
skyrockets. So all of this in service of adult wants creates a very sad and scary picture for children.
00:59:27.260
Um, it's also just people who are not willing to make the sacrifice to die to yourself in marriage.
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You just want to do what you want to do, no matter how it affects other people. This me first God of
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self culture that we have created, it really puts children on the losing side. What do I always say?
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Children are always the unconsenting subjects of progressive social experiments.
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And as Christians, as we talked about earlier, who carry the baton of child protection and have
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for 2000 years, have to be the ones to stand up and say, no, you don't have a right to a child.
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And a child deserves their mother and father. They deserve a married mother and father. And we
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sacrifice our wants to meet the needs and to fulfill the wellbeing of children. That is the order that God
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created. We have to be agents of that order. If we love our little neighbors. Well, all right,
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that's all we got time for today. We will be back here on Friday.