Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 07, 2026


Ep 1300 ｜ Was the Government Shutdown a Win or Loss for Trump？ ｜ Ron Simmons


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

173.16301

Word Count

9,593

Sentence Count

599

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

In this episode, Ron talks about the government not being shut down, the deal to keep the government open, and how to deal with the snow and ice in Texas. He also talks about how the government was able to avoid a government shutdown.


Transcript

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00:01:17.420 Hey, hello everyone.
00:01:19.300 Hope everybody's doing okay.
00:01:20.740 We did survive the ice-mageddon of 2026 here in the Texas area.
00:01:27.820 I'll tell you what, I don't think I've ever seen ice and snow on the ground here as long
00:01:33.000 as we've had it.
00:01:33.700 In fact, I walked into the studio today, and it's been 10 days or more, and there's still
00:01:39.580 a big pile of ice and snow out there on one of the sidewalks, so it's kind of funny.
00:01:44.340 But anyway, I've had enough winter.
00:01:45.900 I'm ready for spring, so dear Lord, whenever you're ready, let's go ahead and send it our
00:01:50.180 way.
00:01:51.360 I don't mind having a little winter, but a couple of weeks and I'm ready to move on and
00:01:56.100 get back out on the golf course and all the good things that come with spring and summer.
00:02:00.260 So anyway, thanks for being here.
00:02:01.880 This comes out on Saturday.
00:02:03.560 Every other Saturday, Allie has allowed me to do this, which I've really, really enjoyed.
00:02:07.800 And man, we're getting some great response from it as well.
00:02:09.840 I've gotten a lot of good emails, and we're getting a lot of views of this, so thank you.
00:02:14.620 And any ideas that you have on what we want to talk about in the future, please send those
00:02:19.680 in.
00:02:20.000 You can email me, Ron, at ronsimmons.com, or you can leave a message on Instagram or
00:02:26.000 however you normally communicate with the show.
00:02:29.180 Several things to talk about today, several things to talk about today, and we'll get through
00:02:34.120 them as quickly and as efficiently as we can.
00:02:36.200 But the first one is we avoided a government shutdown.
00:02:40.840 I think it might have been shut down for 24 hours or something like that, but we really
00:02:44.940 avoided the big issue with government shutdown because the bill was passed on February the
00:02:52.600 3rd, Tuesday, that allowed the government to stay operating.
00:02:59.040 And actually, there were five separate bills that were passed.
00:03:01.760 What they're trying to do, and this is what we would call regular order, and we're going
00:03:06.680 to have a little video of Speaker Johnson talking about it, is get the appropriations process
00:03:13.200 broken down into different bills, not all under one bill.
00:03:17.500 And that way, there may be some things that I like in this bill as a congressman, if I was
00:03:24.180 a congressman, that, okay, I'm okay with voting, but this bill I really can't vote for because
00:03:29.120 there's things in there that I just cannot go along with.
00:03:31.940 So anyway, they did pass it, so the government stays open, and it was bipartisan.
00:03:37.000 And one of the reasons it had to be bipartisan is because we had 21 Republicans that voted no,
00:03:43.960 which is pretty unusual in the Trump era.
00:03:47.300 Trump has been very good about getting people all on the same page.
00:03:51.960 And so the 21 people that voted no, first of all, I don't want you to think that automatically
00:03:57.740 all 21 of those are people that are rhinos.
00:04:01.180 That's certainly not the case.
00:04:03.420 And that they're not crazy people either, right?
00:04:06.760 Some crazy, crazy, far, far, far right people.
00:04:09.460 These are people, most of them anyway, that, you know, they just had an issue with a part
00:04:15.240 of the bill.
00:04:16.320 And, you know, our old friend, Tom Massey, who I actually think probably is one of these
00:04:21.880 guys is just Dr. No.
00:04:23.580 We had those in the Texas legislature.
00:04:25.440 I generally, legislature, I generally called them show horses instead of work horses.
00:04:30.780 Mr. Massey votes no against Republicans more than any other Republican.
00:04:34.980 One of the reasons that some of the 21 Republicans voted against the bills was that the SAVE Act
00:04:42.840 was not included, and it was H.R. 22, and they were trying to put it inside of one of
00:04:48.520 these bills because it hadn't got passed yet.
00:04:50.760 And essentially, the SAVE Act says, it says several things, but the bottom line is it required
00:04:57.620 a photo ID to verify who you were and that you were eligible to vote to go vote.
00:05:04.940 So when you went to a voting location, you had to provide photo ID.
00:05:07.980 We do that in Texas.
00:05:09.260 There are a few exceptions for that, but essentially we have that in Texas.
00:05:12.740 We were trying to get this in federal elections is what the SAVE Act was trying to do, and
00:05:18.020 several of the members in the House that voted against this said that was the reason.
00:05:24.300 Now, the reason it didn't get put in there, in my opinion, is because it wasn't in what
00:05:30.480 the Senate sent over, and Trump was really heavy on pass what the Senate went over so we
00:05:36.700 don't shut down the government any longer.
00:05:38.700 And if they would have put it in there, it would have had to go back to the Senate, and
00:05:43.100 during that time, the government would have been shut down.
00:05:45.560 And for whatever reason, for the most part, when there's a government shutdown, mainly
00:05:49.680 because the media plays into this, is they blame it on Republicans.
00:05:53.500 And going into a midterm year, we don't need that issue.
00:05:58.560 So it's a hard vote.
00:06:00.040 And I sympathize with the 21 that probably wanted to vote yes on this and follow their
00:06:05.340 leadership and follow their president, but they voted no.
00:06:08.640 Now, some of them, you know, were just no people, but there are a lot of them that I
00:06:13.680 believe had a legitimate reason.
00:06:15.560 The other thing that they didn't like was the fact that the bill only allows for two more
00:06:22.080 weeks of funding for the Department of Homeland Security.
00:06:24.760 And that was a big deal in the Senate.
00:06:27.820 That was actually something that Schumer and Trump negotiated to be able to do that.
00:06:33.080 And the idea is over the next two weeks, they're going to have separate discussions and debates
00:06:38.460 over funding for DHS.
00:06:41.000 And it won't just be the funding so much.
00:06:43.400 It'll be the rules that DHS and regulations that kind of control them.
00:06:48.720 We will see how that goes.
00:06:50.360 I don't trust Schumer as far as I can throw this couch, right?
00:06:53.920 I can probably throw him further than the couch, but I don't trust him at all.
00:06:57.980 And so I don't believe he'll negotiate in good faith.
00:07:01.020 Now, I hope I'm proven wrong.
00:07:02.740 And I hope what happens is, is that to the extent that they can, that the Republicans
00:07:08.100 just steamroll it.
00:07:09.320 It's harder to do in the Senate because you need 60 votes to end debate to be able to even
00:07:13.340 have a vote.
00:07:14.560 But maybe they'll have some Democrats that will have a reasonable way to look at this.
00:07:19.700 They'll probably have to make some compromise.
00:07:21.580 And just to understand, that's the way the sausage is made.
00:07:24.760 There's always some compromise.
00:07:26.580 One of the reasons there was some pork that went into this spending bill that went through
00:07:32.500 the Senate and the House is because the House had to have some Democrats in order for it
00:07:36.440 to pass because the 21 Republicans went against it.
00:07:39.920 And we don't have a wide enough majority to be able to pass it without Democrats.
00:07:43.660 So there's always give and take, and it's easy to be a purist when we're sitting on our
00:07:48.940 couch.
00:07:49.580 But when you're actually in, inside the rails, in other words, you're one of the Congress
00:07:54.820 people voting, you've got to figure out what's the best deal I can get done for the, for the
00:08:01.420 people of America.
00:08:02.200 And that's, I believe what they've done.
00:08:03.920 Now, there's also some cool things in here though, that are positives.
00:08:07.840 And I'm going to get to those in just a minute, but before we do that, um, I, you, one of
00:08:14.260 the reason, one of the congressmen talked about the negotiating strategy that needs to be
00:08:20.320 used when we're negotiating with Democrats.
00:08:22.840 And this is representative Tim Birchett of Tennessee.
00:08:26.260 It's $8.4 billion more than what Trump asked.
00:08:31.560 Department of Labor, human health services, uh, $221 billion.
00:08:37.360 You know, this thing just keep going exceeds the president's request and includes funding
00:08:41.660 for programs.
00:08:42.420 President Trump zeroed out and we got to start negotiating from power.
00:08:45.920 When you start following our president's advice on a lot of this stuff and negotiating, you
00:08:52.580 don't negotiate from weakness.
00:08:54.320 Trump will tell you, you negotiate from power and that's why he wins.
00:08:58.160 Well, that's exactly right.
00:08:59.580 And the quicker you learn that, the better you're off.
00:09:02.760 Now it's easy to say that it's a little harder to do it, but it's, but it is important that
00:09:08.520 you under, you have to understand who's in power.
00:09:10.680 Now, the only really way that Republicans can negotiate from power is if they're all solidified
00:09:16.700 and that has been very hard to do in the house.
00:09:19.720 I mean, the house is, you know, it's 435 members.
00:09:22.740 You know, the, the, uh, Republicans have about 217, 218 and to get all of those people on
00:09:30.980 the same page on any issue is a difficult process.
00:09:33.840 I do not envy, uh, Speaker Johnson's job at all.
00:09:37.340 There were some cool things that came in the bill though.
00:09:40.260 And, uh, going to go through a couple of those here in just a little bit.
00:09:43.660 But before we do that, let's see what Speaker Johnson had to say about the spending bill.
00:09:49.080 For a long time, we wanted to get back to regular order in the appropriations process.
00:09:53.220 And you're standing up here with the, with the best appropriators in the business and
00:09:57.060 have served in many years.
00:09:58.620 And we forced the muscle memory back.
00:10:01.100 We're getting back to that regular order process, 12 separate appropriations bills.
00:10:05.000 We've gotten them to your desk.
00:10:06.280 And this is a big thing.
00:10:07.680 It seems like a small thing, but it's a big thing.
00:10:09.520 And we're spending less money year over year.
00:10:11.640 And with all the innovations and things that you said there, this is good for the country
00:10:14.980 and America is back.
00:10:16.440 The hat is appropriate.
00:10:17.700 It's the right, right slogan.
00:10:19.320 Well, I think that was really good.
00:10:20.760 I think it is good that the Speaker reminded us of how the process works and the fact that we're
00:10:25.440 spending less money year over year than in the past.
00:10:28.620 Uh, and president Trump also talks about how we're distributing foreign aid and remember
00:10:34.040 the, the whole USA thing.
00:10:36.160 President wanted to make a comment on that.
00:10:37.720 Let's listen to that as well.
00:10:39.260 It continues the closure of USAID and creates a brand new America first opportunity fund for
00:10:46.680 responsibly providing foreign assistance to nations where it actually serves American
00:10:53.400 interests.
00:10:53.960 So we have nations that do help us and it serves our interests.
00:10:57.800 So we have something to help them out.
00:11:00.680 That's good.
00:11:01.320 We got to remember, we got to remember all of that stuff that, that, you know, that
00:11:05.260 Elon Musk, uh, recommended when he was first part of the Doge.
00:11:09.800 And, uh, that some of that stuff is still coming through.
00:11:12.460 They've tried to pull some of it back, but it's still coming through a few other things
00:11:15.700 to think about that.
00:11:16.800 The first one is something that I've been, uh, excited about as much as anything, because
00:11:21.680 it just drives me crazy.
00:11:22.720 We're spending taxpayer money on woke media, but this officially ends taxpayer subsidies
00:11:27.620 for radical woke programming on NPR and PBS.
00:11:31.040 Thank goodness.
00:11:31.880 And there are a lot of good programs on PBS, but they're, but all their new stuff is oh,
00:11:36.480 so far left.
00:11:37.300 No question.
00:11:38.000 It takes $10 billion in wasteful foreign aid spending, cuts that, continues the closure
00:11:44.040 of wasteful USAID program, which the president talked about, cuts funding on, uh, weaponized
00:11:49.920 IRS programs.
00:11:50.960 If you remember a few years ago where the IRS was going after conservative organizations,
00:11:55.940 uh, that, that it cuts back on the weaponizing of that.
00:11:59.900 It builds on the Republican rescissions package last summer, the receipt, taking money back
00:12:05.140 out of programs that shouldn't be done.
00:12:07.000 It fully funds our minute military, including well-deserved pay raise for all service members.
00:12:12.240 It, it, uh, puts investments in American shipbuilding, continues funding deportation flights.
00:12:19.020 What we talk about that is, you know, we're deporting people where that's, that's on us.
00:12:23.160 So we send them, we, you know, we take them back to their countries.
00:12:26.240 In fact, the ones that want to self-deport, I think we even, uh, provide a thousand dollars
00:12:31.160 plus a free flight back to their country.
00:12:32.900 And most of the people that have left the country that are illegals have self-deported
00:12:37.800 about two thirds of the people that have left the country have self-deported.
00:12:41.860 And about the third of them have been the ones that we've had to deport.
00:12:45.180 And then finally, it continues the historically successful efforts to reduce crime in our
00:12:50.540 nation's capital, DC, uh, crime has gone way down since even their mayor, you remember
00:12:56.180 said, thank you, president Trump for putting the national guard in there to help reduce
00:13:00.320 crime.
00:13:00.640 And they've done that.
00:13:01.340 So anyway, we, we've gotten past this issue.
00:13:04.780 The government's not shut down.
00:13:06.300 We're moving forward.
00:13:07.740 Those of you that depend on that, I know that that'll be important to you.
00:13:11.420 And those of us that want a continued smaller government, I think we just have to keep pushing
00:13:16.240 our representatives for that.
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00:14:38.040 Next thing I want to talk about is, and this is just a reminder, all right?
00:14:42.480 This is a reminder of Republicans versus Democrats and how different they are.
00:14:50.060 First of all, there just are not hardly any moderate Democrats anymore, especially when
00:14:58.400 it comes to social related issues.
00:15:00.740 The House passed a bill, HR 6945, that supports Pregnant and Parenting Women and Families Act.
00:15:08.660 And it passed 215 to 209.
00:15:11.300 And only one Democrat, Henry Cuellar of Texas, down in the Rio Grande Valley, voted in favor
00:15:16.620 of it.
00:15:16.980 And what it does is, it allows something called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.
00:15:24.100 That's called TANF.
00:15:25.000 You may have heard that term, TANF.
00:15:27.020 Those funds are distributed by the government to organizations that help families that are
00:15:31.720 in need.
00:15:32.540 Well, our good friend, President Biden and his slick administration, they tried to propose
00:15:38.740 a rule that would not allow pregnancy resource centers from receiving those funds because
00:15:46.740 he didn't want any funds going to resource centers that were helping moms that wanted to
00:15:52.580 have their babies.
00:15:53.600 He wanted only that money going to places that would help mom kill those babies.
00:15:59.060 And this has been stopped, thank goodness.
00:16:02.520 In fact, his rule didn't ever get passed, which was good.
00:16:07.440 But this bill has now gone to the Senate, all right, for them to act on it.
00:16:13.780 And we'll see if they act on that or not.
00:16:16.840 We hope they do, but you don't know.
00:16:19.840 Another bill that the House has proposed, and it passed by vote, is the Pregnancy Student
00:16:26.980 Rights Act.
00:16:28.260 And what this does, it requires colleges and universities that receive federal student
00:16:32.520 aid to inform pregnant students about their rights on campus and community resources
00:16:37.680 and accommodations and how to file discrimination complaints so they can carry their pregnancies
00:16:42.760 to term and continue their education.
00:16:45.260 But just to show you how crass Democrats are related to the unborn, here is a little video
00:16:56.140 from Representative Bobby Scott out of Virginia and his opposition to what seems like a pretty
00:17:03.680 common sense, helpful piece of legislation.
00:17:06.380 Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to H.R. 6359, the Pregnant Students Rights Act.
00:17:13.360 This bill requires schools to provide pregnant students with information about on-campus and
00:17:17.620 community resources and accommodations to assist them in carrying a baby to term while they
00:17:23.360 pursue an education.
00:17:24.360 Unfortunately, instead of sharing unbiased and comprehensive information, this bill requires
00:17:31.080 schools to distribute only partial information about a student's rights under Title IX and selective
00:17:37.880 information and resources that solely encourage students to carry a pregnancy to term.
00:17:44.040 It provides no information about rights and accommodations for students who may find themselves
00:17:49.100 in a medical situation that requires an abortion.
00:17:54.740 Can you imagine that?
00:17:56.220 I mean, it's just hard to even believe.
00:17:58.500 But I just, we don't want to get lackadaisical because Roe v. Wade's been turned over, overturned,
00:18:04.740 I mean, and we don't want to give up fighting because, you know, the big issue now is all of the
00:18:11.260 abortions that are happening through the pill.
00:18:14.320 I forget the name of it.
00:18:15.380 It starts with an M.
00:18:16.520 Allie talks about it all the time.
00:18:17.840 So, and there's a lot of abortions going on still due to that.
00:18:24.040 And the Democrats are almost 100% vote in blocks against anything that's pro-life.
00:18:33.020 Henry Cuellar, as we said, the only representative that voted in favor of the bill.
00:18:38.840 He's in a predominantly Catholic district down there in the Rio Grande Valley, Hispanic Catholic
00:18:43.180 district, which we know most Hispanics are pro-life.
00:18:46.000 And so please don't, if you want to know, well, maybe this Democrat's okay, or maybe that one's okay.
00:18:53.100 When it comes down to these issues, none of them have been proven to be okay.
00:18:57.560 And it was the same way in the Texas House, unfortunately.
00:19:00.140 And I had friends on the other side of the aisle, but they support, they did not support any legislation
00:19:05.960 that was there to save the unborn.
00:19:08.440 And I just want to make sure that never leaves your mind when you're looking at who to vote for come this spring in primaries or this November.
00:19:18.040 So let's just make sure we remember that.
00:19:20.340 Now, let's talk a little bit about the next subject and immigration.
00:19:24.760 We can't, we can't let that go far because it's something that's on the news every day.
00:19:28.480 It's something we're thinking about every day.
00:19:29.760 It's something, it's probably the biggest thing that President Trump ran on was cleaning up, first of all, shutting down our border, which he's done a great job of that.
00:19:38.020 Uh, and there even been Democrat senators that have talked about that and also to get rid of primarily initially, anyway, I should say initially, not primarily initially the criminal element that of the illegals that are here.
00:19:54.880 And these are people that not only broke the law by crossing into our country illegally.
00:20:00.780 They also broke the law by committing an additional crime or either they're wanted for a crime back in their home country.
00:20:09.780 And, uh, so the president, as you know, uh, week or two ago sent border czar Tom Homan in to Minnesota.
00:20:17.800 Tom been in this business for 40 years.
00:20:21.060 He was an ICE agent at one time.
00:20:23.340 He's actually worked under five presidents.
00:20:25.720 In fact, President Obama gave him a medal for his work in, uh, securing our border and, and, and, uh, making sure that we got, that we deported illegal aliens.
00:20:39.040 And we've talked about this before, but President Obama deported more illegal aliens than any president in history.
00:20:45.780 Now, Trump's probably going to surpass that, but 3.2 million.
00:20:51.060 And I never heard one word of complaint about that from the Democrat elected officials or the media.
00:21:00.500 I mean, that's just tells you how sick our media has gotten, uh, especially the mainstream media, how sick they have gotten on unwilling to be fair in their reporting.
00:21:13.080 It's not their opinion.
00:21:14.480 Their opinions are fine.
00:21:15.640 And they can be where they want on those, but in your everyday reporting, it is just, it's not even worth paying any attention to.
00:21:23.800 And that's why you listen to podcasts like this.
00:21:25.760 That's why you look at other information to try to sort through the facts and it's hard to do it.
00:21:30.580 But, uh, but anyway, so Homan has, has gone there and he is in Minnesota kind of making sure we get things on the right track.
00:21:41.280 Cause nobody likes the fact that two people have passed away because of this and ICE officers have been hurt and they've been ridiculed and what have you.
00:21:50.040 But once some of the media has said that, uh, this means it's that Trump is surrendering to all the protests and the riots, but let's see what Mr. Homan has to say.
00:22:01.180 I want to be clear.
00:22:02.660 I don't read a lot of social media.
00:22:04.260 I don't read a lot of media.
00:22:05.080 I don't believe half of all they see.
00:22:06.180 We are not surrendering the president's mission and immigration enforcement.
00:22:12.240 Let's make that clear.
00:22:14.340 Prioritization of criminal ambulance doesn't mean that we forget about everybody else.
00:22:17.320 That's just simply ridiculous.
00:22:19.620 When you have a criminal standing here and a non-criminal standing there, that criminal always should be targeted for it.
00:22:24.640 Cause he's a significant concern to the safety and security of the community.
00:22:29.880 By at large for decades, ICE and CBP have carried out their duties with integrity, professionalism, and compassion.
00:22:36.860 That remains the expectation of President Trump.
00:22:39.760 And we will, I will hold our agents and officers to that standard.
00:22:44.840 So that's a very good message.
00:22:46.960 First of all, we're not surrendering.
00:22:49.180 We're going to, we're going to do whatever we have to, to get primarily the criminal element of illegals out of this country.
00:22:57.360 And we're going to arrest them.
00:22:58.460 Secondly, we're going to follow professional standards as federal agents as to how we're supposed to follow that.
00:23:07.760 But we're going to protect, as we'll talk a little bit about later, we're going to make sure that we protect those agents as well.
00:23:13.800 There's never going to be a situation where it's okay to abuse our federal agents.
00:23:18.920 One of the things that he said, and I listened to the whole newscast or press conference, sorry.
00:23:27.620 I listened to the whole press conference.
00:23:29.460 And in fact, he would just did another press conference on Wednesday, if you want to listen to that.
00:23:35.240 But I listened to the whole thing.
00:23:36.920 And one of the things that he said, this is so interesting, and he's going to talk about it in just a second.
00:23:41.120 We have a clip of it, is that the reason that we have to have so many agents, ICE agents and federal officers in Minnesota right now,
00:23:50.660 is because that we don't get any cooperation up to date out of the elected officials and the law enforcement there.
00:24:01.540 So what happens in a lot of states is that if someone is, let's say that they've committed a local crime,
00:24:09.860 and so they're picked up by local law enforcement and they run them through the system and there's an ICE detainer,
00:24:16.820 meaning that they're illegal and the ICE has asked you to hold those people until we can come get them,
00:24:25.300 that those people are being released and not being held as ICE has requested that they do.
00:24:33.220 And so therefore, ICE, instead of just going and picking them up at the jail in a very secure scenario,
00:24:39.040 where as Mr. Holman says, I could send one officer to do that, maybe two,
00:24:44.260 we have to go pick them up out in the public, out in their neighborhoods, out where they work, wherever,
00:24:51.440 because we're going to get them.
00:24:52.640 He's clear on that.
00:24:53.460 We're going to get them.
00:24:54.260 So you're forcing us to put the public at risk by not cooperating with these illegal aliens that are also additional criminals.
00:25:03.800 And therefore, instead of having to have one or two go pick one of these people up,
00:25:08.540 they have to have 15, 20, and then another 15 or 20 that are supporting them to go pick them up because of what's going on,
00:25:16.440 because of their, the ICE agents are being abused, they're being spat upon, they're thrown at,
00:25:21.660 they're being, people are carrying, as we know, guns in there, throwing ice bottles at them, those types of things.
00:25:27.620 So really, Minnesota, listen to me.
00:25:30.940 And one of our people here on the team is from Minnesota.
00:25:33.820 So I want him to make sure he calls everybody and tells who he knows back there, listen to me.
00:25:38.280 And that is to look, if you want things to calm down, then it's okay to protest.
00:25:44.700 Just don't put violence in your protest.
00:25:47.680 Okay.
00:25:48.020 If you want to stand out there and protest and carry a sign and even say, hey, we're against this, that's fine.
00:25:54.820 But when you impede law enforcement, all you're doing is creating the need for more law enforcement because there will be no surrender.
00:26:03.760 You do understand that, that President Trump is not a surrender person.
00:26:08.540 Maybe in the past, you could have gotten that done through those types of threats, but it's not going to happen on this one.
00:26:15.780 And, but I wanted, let's hear Mr. Holman talk about what just makes common sense on how this thing should be treated.
00:26:24.700 This is common sense cooperation that allows to draw down on the number of people we have here.
00:26:30.600 Yes, I said it, draw down the number of people here.
00:26:33.240 Because we have the efficiency and safety of the jails in the prison.
00:26:40.120 An example that I heard, there are 1,300 illegal alien criminals that are in jails across Minnesota.
00:26:47.960 1,300.
00:26:49.500 And those can be easily taken by ICE with just a little cooperation.
00:26:55.600 And Tom Holman believes that we're moving towards that.
00:26:59.000 He says that Attorney General Ellison has agreed to notify ICE of release dates for criminal public safety risks, allowing ICE to take custody of those safely for everyone involved.
00:27:14.720 So if you don't want ICE in your community, then encourage your elected officials and your police force to cooperate with them.
00:27:21.760 This past weekend, 650 criminal aliens were picked up by ICE in other states, and you didn't hear anything about it from the media.
00:27:32.340 There weren't any protests.
00:27:33.380 That's because they were done in the manner I talked about a minute ago, that there was a detainer.
00:27:39.320 ICE went to the jail, picked them up, took them back to their detention centers, or they deported them, whatever it is that they do at that particular time.
00:27:47.720 That's the way it should go, and I'm hopeful that people around the country, if they want violence to go down, that they will pay attention to that.
00:27:55.680 So, again, this immigration thing is going to go on for a while now.
00:28:01.100 Biden let in 14 million people, didn't vet hardly any of them.
00:28:05.360 And so you're going to see this immigration enforcement going on until the problem is eradicated.
00:28:11.860 And, again, I'll call on Congress, Senate, and the House, get together, get some better immigration laws that allow good people to get here easier and bad people to never get here.
00:28:25.680 That's what it takes.
00:28:26.620 Instead of using this as a political football, which is what continues to happen, both sides use it to their advantage, okay?
00:28:33.700 No question about that in politics.
00:28:35.480 And we need to take that away and actually have some good legislation that will help solve this issue.
00:28:43.260 All right.
00:28:44.300 So Trump, of course, weighs in on all of this.
00:28:48.400 And he has said he calls it the Ask Us Doctrine.
00:28:53.560 And what he's basically saying, which is true, but it's all some funny stuff.
00:28:58.920 In fact, let's go ahead and put his statement up there from Truth Social.
00:29:01.940 I'm not going to read the whole thing.
00:29:03.180 Obviously, it's a lot on there.
00:29:04.500 You can go read that.
00:29:05.900 But essentially what he's saying is that we are going to guard federal property, but it's up to you, the states, to guard your own property and protect your own citizens.
00:29:17.140 And we were happy to come in there, but you've got to ask us.
00:29:20.960 And he also puts in there, you've got to say please, which is just the way Trump is, which is kind of funny.
00:29:25.920 I don't really think that he means that, but I do think that he says, look, we're not going to put our people in harm's way when you're not even going to support us.
00:29:33.140 So if you ask us, Democrat states and mayors, we'll help you, but we're not doing it.
00:29:38.980 In fact, he told Kristi Noem not to do it unless they come to us and ask us.
00:29:44.160 He also said there will be no spitting in the faces of our officers.
00:29:47.760 There will be no punching or kicking the headlights of our cars.
00:29:50.800 There will be no rock or brick throwing at our vehicles or at our patriot warriors.
00:29:54.900 If, if it is, those people will suffer an equal or more consequence.
00:30:01.240 I mean, that's pretty straightforward, I would say, right?
00:30:04.540 You just, no way you're going to do it.
00:30:06.580 And they're also going to protect federal property.
00:30:08.800 Just in Oregon, just this past few days, there was a federal building that they went in there and vandalized and what have you.
00:30:17.440 And he's just not going to allow that.
00:30:19.620 And you remember back in 2020 when they went into that federal building in Oregon or it's a courthouse or something.
00:30:26.140 And, you know, basically, you know, set up shop in there, set fires.
00:30:30.400 It's all just a total mess.
00:30:31.780 So, again, I think the immigration stuff, I mean, we're, we're hard on it and I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be good.
00:30:40.980 So, I'm glad they're doing it.
00:30:42.980 And, again, any questions on that, let me know.
00:30:45.220 All right.
00:30:46.180 A few more things that we're going to talk about here.
00:30:49.120 And one of them I wanted, this is something that I didn't put in the show notes for the, for the staff here.
00:30:55.940 But I read an article this weekend, or actually an opinion piece by Senator Bernie Sanders.
00:31:04.600 And it was about credit card interest rates.
00:31:07.980 Most of the people that I'm talking to probably have some credit cards.
00:31:12.140 I don't know.
00:31:12.640 Hopefully you're on the way to getting rid of as many of those.
00:31:16.280 Maybe you keep one just for emergency purposes.
00:31:18.480 But if you're on the way to getting rid of those, like Dave Ramsey talks about and other financial people talk about, I certainly agree with that.
00:31:25.560 I talk about that in my book, Life Lessons from the Little Red Wagon.
00:31:29.140 But what he says is that he wants the federal government to cap, which they could do, interest rates on credit cards to 10%.
00:31:37.040 You know, most credit card interest rates are 17, 18, 19, even 20-something percent.
00:31:44.300 And it sounds good, right?
00:31:45.800 I mean, most of us would say, yeah, that'd be great.
00:31:47.580 That would bring my cost down and all that.
00:31:49.500 Here's the challenge, all right?
00:31:50.980 And I just want to make sure you understand this, is that the reason credit card interest rates are at 20-something percent is because the consumer laws very much, relating to credit cards, very much favor the consumer.
00:32:05.800 Meaning that you see all these programs where, hey, I'll help you reduce your credit card balance, or I'll make it to where you're not paying interest on it and all that.
00:32:16.900 Well, all of those things reduces how much credit card companies actually collect, and then people just don't pay.
00:32:26.660 They file bankruptcy or whatever and just don't pay their credit cards off.
00:32:30.140 So in order for credit cards to make what they consider to be a reasonable profit, they're not making 20% off of all their credit card charges, okay?
00:32:41.220 Because remember, some people pay them off at the end of every month, okay?
00:32:45.200 Any credit card I've had, that's what I've always done, so there's no interest on it.
00:32:49.940 Some people don't pay at all, file bankruptcy, or some people get these reduced scenarios where they don't have to pay back as much as they owed.
00:32:57.760 When all that's said and done, the actual profit they make is quite a bit less than that, all right?
00:33:04.120 But it allows people that don't even have great credit scores to obtain credit and to compensate for the fact that the credit card companies know that some of them are not going to pay.
00:33:17.640 They charge a higher interest rate on all of it so that they can get down to what they think is a reasonable amount.
00:33:25.560 And you and I could agree or disagree with them on whether their profit margin is reasonable or not.
00:33:29.520 So if you cap it at 10%, which I'm totally fine with because, you know, I don't use the credit cards for interest.
00:33:39.000 I don't take interest on my cards or whatever.
00:33:41.000 But the problem, if you cap it at 10%, for a lot of the nation is it will reduce the number of people that can get credit because the credit card companies will have to only give credit cards to the people whose credit scores, whose capability of repaying are much higher than they are today.
00:34:01.200 And long-term, that's probably a good thing for the country, but short-term, there would be a lot of people that could not get credit, and that would have a negative impact on them and on the economy.
00:34:15.420 So when you read those things, just make sure you look at the whole picture.
00:34:19.260 I'm not saying we should or shouldn't do that.
00:34:21.480 I'm just saying you need to understand what the effects of that are and make sure that if you want to opine on that to your congressperson or whatever,
00:34:29.840 that you understand that, that you may be in a position to where if they take it down to 10%, that you can't even get a credit card because right now your credit worthiness isn't good enough for that credit card company to take a risk on you.
00:34:45.960 And so just to understand that's the way things work.
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00:35:43.720 Now, let's take a few questions here.
00:35:51.360 We've got a few minutes left to do some questions, and we've got a lot of good questions.
00:35:55.040 I can't answer all of them, but we're going to go through as many as we can.
00:35:58.020 I love getting these questions.
00:35:59.660 You guys are so good at this.
00:36:03.240 Let's see here.
00:36:03.920 The first one, when did you know that Allie was going to be such an inspiration to many?
00:36:08.280 Well, you know, I would not be telling you the truth if I said, oh, I knew that early on.
00:36:13.860 Now, I did know early on that she was going to share her opinion with Minnie because she's always been one to share her opinion, even as a little girl.
00:36:24.680 How that was going to end up growing and maturing, I really didn't know.
00:36:30.360 I felt like when she, and I've talked about this story before, when she spoke at her college's graduation, I could just see it in her eyes that it was like a light bulb moment that, okay, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:36:47.700 And so I guess from that point, I had a feeling that this was something she was going to pursue.
00:36:52.460 Uh, I don't think any of us knew that it would grow to what it's grown and what I think it will continue to grow to over the next several years.
00:37:01.140 Um, but I, and I think part of that, honestly, I will give a little bit of credit to her mom and myself is that we, with all of our kids, we never told them things they could not do.
00:37:15.780 Now we were honest with them.
00:37:18.420 I mean, listen, uh, my, my, uh, oldest son was never going to be run the a hundred yard dash in nine seconds.
00:37:26.240 Okay.
00:37:26.760 So that was honesty.
00:37:28.160 I didn't want him to be a sprinter.
00:37:29.520 All right.
00:37:30.680 But if they wanted to pursue something, we were an encourager of that.
00:37:35.660 And we did what we could to facilitate that.
00:37:38.620 That means if, you know, if, uh, if Allie wanted to do this or that, and I had contacts in a place, I use those contacts.
00:37:47.480 Okay.
00:37:47.860 So moms and dads, you have a wealth of connections that you need to be willing to utilize for your kids.
00:37:55.600 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:37:56.600 That's the way things work.
00:37:57.760 That's the way things they, that's the way things should work.
00:37:59.800 It's also important though, moms and dads, that you live a life of integrity and character so that when you go to someone and saying, Hey, my daughter's interested in this, uh, I know that you're involved in that business.
00:38:13.320 Can you give her a look?
00:38:14.840 Okay.
00:38:15.820 They're not going to pay attention if I don't have integrity myself.
00:38:18.880 So moms and dads, we have to live a life of integrity and, and, and, um, good character so that people will listen to us as well.
00:38:28.040 Um, yeah.
00:38:29.800 Let's see here.
00:38:32.040 Are there any conspiracy theories that you believe in?
00:38:35.040 I don't believe that John Kennedy was only shot.
00:38:39.360 I think it was shot by Oswald, but I think there was more to it than that.
00:38:43.180 I'll go to my grave thinking that I don't know if it's true or not, but I do believe that there's more to it than that.
00:38:48.460 All you had to do is read the Warren report and know that the magic bullet theory just didn't add up to me.
00:38:54.700 Uh, I thought that was, uh, I thought that was interesting.
00:38:58.020 All right.
00:38:59.020 Uh, let's see here.
00:39:02.400 What are your parenting tips for raising strong adults who don't walk away from their faith?
00:39:06.760 I think the only thing that you can do is that, um, when your kids are young, that you expose them to your faith and that you teach them the basic values of your faith and the tenants of your faith.
00:39:19.940 And then as they become older and, and, uh, they become, you know, adults, you've got the foundation in them.
00:39:29.980 I experienced this in my own life.
00:39:31.940 I went through a period of time in my mid to late teenage years, my mom and dad had divorced and I don't know, it was just a mess.
00:39:39.420 And so, and I wondered, you know, where's God during all this.
00:39:42.520 Right.
00:39:42.840 And, um, but the foundation was set that it brought me back to him later in my teen years that, you know, when Lisa and I were dating and what have you.
00:39:54.560 So, um, I think you have to build the foundation and then it'll be up to their own free will, whether they leave that or whether they never leave it or whether they leave it and come back between them and God, it will be through them.
00:40:08.680 Now you can still have influence through all that period of time and they need to see you living a life, uh, that's committed to Christ.
00:40:15.900 But I do believe the foundation early is the key point.
00:40:20.000 If you haven't had the, didn't give the foundation early because you didn't come to Christ till later and your kids were already born, then there's no, no, no time like the present to get that started.
00:40:28.420 All right.
00:40:29.100 And don't ever give up on that because I do believe that what you plant in there, that the Holy spirit can water and grow.
00:40:37.200 And I, I absolutely believe it.
00:40:39.360 I've seen it happen too many, too many times.
00:40:41.780 What did you do to protect your children?
00:40:45.200 If Ray, what would you do if protect your, raise them today versus when you did?
00:40:48.980 Oh, that's a good one.
00:40:50.020 First of all, I'm thankful that I'm not a new mom or dad today.
00:40:53.740 It's very difficult.
00:40:54.680 I think the thing that you do is a lot of the same.
00:40:57.900 Some of the things are the same is that you build a foundation of faith with them, making sure that they're in church regularly, making sure that you guys are talking about things that are related to your, to your faith and to your value system.
00:41:10.920 And that you're living that you're not just talking about that, but also think you're, you're, and this is where you're not going to be popular, but you have to limit their exposure to the extent that you can to some of the outside world things, you know, social media.
00:41:26.600 I think you have to really limit that.
00:41:28.240 I'm proud of our oldest, his, uh, uh, our oldest son and his wife.
00:41:32.880 I mean, they have a young teenage son and getting ready to be a second teenager in the house.
00:41:37.740 And they, they have really, really been good about restricting their access to social media.
00:41:43.500 Now they won't be able to do that forever, but the longer you restrict it, if during that time you're building into them, their own value system, they'll be better equipped to stand up for themselves when they are exposed to it.
00:41:56.300 So you can't just restrict them during the time you're restricting them.
00:41:59.320 You have to be building into them.
00:42:01.180 Okay.
00:42:01.460 Building into them, the, the value system that you believe in, that's based on your faith and, and may, and hopefully they'll have come to Christ by then that they'll have, they will have been saved and they'll be wanting to walk with the Lord.
00:42:16.960 And so, uh, that's what you have to do.
00:42:19.400 It can't just be a vacuum because if you don't, if you just restrict it and don't do anything, then they're just going to be hungry, more hungry for it, more hungry for it.
00:42:26.280 And when it's exposed, it could get, uh, definitely out of hand.
00:42:29.640 Um, this is an interesting one.
00:42:31.760 How is capitalism, has capitalism also been corrupted?
00:42:35.620 It's the divide between the rich and the poor problem.
00:42:38.780 You know, I think it's always been a problem that in, in, in, in the Bible says that, you know, Jesus said the poor will always be with you.
00:42:46.300 And I think what, what happens, there's always going to be people depending on how you determine rich.
00:42:53.560 And I think we're talking about financially here is there's always going to be people that have more and people that have less.
00:43:00.440 That's the way our society works.
00:43:02.400 It also works that way.
00:43:03.540 Let me make sure you understand this.
00:43:05.000 Okay.
00:43:05.700 In socialist and communist societies, it works the exact same way.
00:43:11.720 If you don't believe me, go to places like Iran or places like Russia or places like Cuba or Venezuela, as it was, meaning that there are a few people at the top.
00:43:28.040 The problem with those is that it's a much smaller group and it's all government controlled.
00:43:32.360 There are a few people at the top that have unbelievable wealth.
00:43:36.080 In fact, some people believe Vladimir Putin's the richest man in the world.
00:43:40.140 Now he can't go anywhere to spend his money, but he's the richest man in the world.
00:43:43.720 And then the rest of the people live on a very low substance level.
00:43:47.660 There's no middle class in most of these places.
00:43:50.960 And so therefore don't think that capitalism is the issue.
00:43:55.540 It's not capitalism.
00:43:56.440 Isn't the issue.
00:43:57.700 It's the corruption of power.
00:43:59.580 That's the issue.
00:44:00.420 And that's why we have to have a representative government so that the representative government can keep the power in check.
00:44:12.320 And have we done as good a job as we should have?
00:44:15.100 Probably not.
00:44:16.420 All right.
00:44:16.860 I would agree with that.
00:44:18.780 However, it is the best form that we have because without that representative government, power just gets more powerful.
00:44:26.520 As you can tell in these countries that have been taken over by what amounts to be dictators.
00:44:31.900 So we should offer as much opportunity as we can for people to move up in their socioeconomic status.
00:44:40.520 One of the challenges we've had here in the United States is we've tried to give handouts instead of hand ups.
00:44:49.260 And all we've done is create a vicious cycle of people staying on government entitlement.
00:44:55.740 And until we change those programs to incentivize people to get out as opposed to stay in, then we're going to have the continue to have the divide.
00:45:07.260 Let's see.
00:45:10.600 The.
00:45:12.280 Why do liberals misinterpret Jesus?
00:45:15.600 Because they're liberal.
00:45:16.940 No, that's not.
00:45:17.620 That's a that's not a good answer.
00:45:19.340 I think because they have because their first answer is their political answer in their mind.
00:45:28.260 And then they look at how can I form everything else around that?
00:45:32.780 So if my political belief is abortion, you know, government handouts, whatever, no borders, then then I look to whatever else I'm viewing or learning with that prism.
00:45:47.240 And I want to make it fit in there.
00:45:49.400 That's what they do.
00:45:50.920 That's why they do it.
00:45:52.040 And so until they until they really have Jesus first.
00:45:57.620 And that's the basis for how you look at everything else.
00:46:01.000 In other words, we should look at government based on how what we feel about the Bible first.
00:46:07.420 And then we should shape our government and political views around that.
00:46:11.300 A lot of times liberals will take their political views and then they'll try to shape government around.
00:46:17.800 That's exactly what the guy that's running for Senate in Texas, the Tallarico guy is doing.
00:46:23.520 He's got his political views.
00:46:25.280 And then he goes to and then he tries to form what the Bible says to match those views.
00:46:31.060 And what he really needs to do, if you're listening to me, representatives, we know each other.
00:46:36.000 Go look at the Bible first, what it says, literally what it says.
00:46:42.460 And it certainly doesn't say kill the unborn.
00:46:45.320 And then shape your political views around that.
00:46:47.800 If you do that, we'd be a lot, our country would be a lot better off for all of us.
00:46:52.120 All right.
00:46:53.160 Finish up here.
00:46:55.040 Words.
00:46:55.560 And again, if I didn't get your question, feel free to email me on that.
00:46:58.520 But the last segment I do every time is called Words from the Wagon.
00:47:03.560 And that relates to my book, which you see behind me, Life Lessons from the Little Red Wagon.
00:47:07.320 If you haven't ordered that, you can order it off of Allie's merchandise site.
00:47:11.340 And it'll be in the show notes.
00:47:12.760 Also, if you haven't gotten her book on toxic empathy, you know, there was a hit piece that came out on Allie from our good friend.
00:47:22.340 And actually, my fellow Arkansan, Hillary Rodden Clinton, she wrote a piece, an op-ed piece in The Atlantic that was just saying,
00:47:31.680 Oh, you know, I love empathy.
00:47:34.620 I'm so empathetic.
00:47:36.060 And Allie Beth and all these Christians are not empathetic.
00:47:39.360 They're on the right.
00:47:40.680 Well, of course, she probably never read Allie's book.
00:47:44.060 And secondly, she totally misinterpreted it.
00:47:46.700 And if you haven't listened to Allie's podcast episode response to that, you need to do that.
00:47:52.840 But, you know, listen, if Hillary and Bill want to come sit on the couch over here, I'm sure Allie and I would have a good interview and debate with them.
00:48:00.820 You know, just a couple of fellow Arkansans getting back together.
00:48:03.660 We could call the Hogs.
00:48:04.680 We could do whatever.
00:48:05.880 But if you want to come sit and talk about it, we're happy to do that.
00:48:08.380 So the invitation is open and we'll be happy to sit down with you and talk about that.
00:48:12.740 And there's some other questions we might have as well.
00:48:15.800 OK, words from the wagon.
00:48:18.660 Here's some things, you know, in my book, I talk about it.
00:48:23.320 Not everything happens exactly how we want it to happen.
00:48:26.980 And not everything is about us.
00:48:29.300 Sometimes things that we are heavily involved in really aren't about us at all.
00:48:34.260 Even though we might think they are, they're really not.
00:48:36.900 A good example of that is when I started the legislature in 2013, one of the big issues for me was being able to give parents school choice, especially for those that have kids that have disabilities.
00:48:51.500 Because I just saw in many, not all, so don't misquote me, many of our public school environments did not have the ability or maybe even the desire sometime to provide the services necessary for kids with disabilities to learn as much as they could and go as far as they can in the education system.
00:49:12.080 And so I filed a bill, along with my good friend, Giovanni Capriglione, we filed a bill related to school choice in 2013.
00:49:23.820 It didn't get out, didn't go anywhere.
00:49:26.460 I filed again in 2015.
00:49:28.620 Even you can look up on YouTube if you want to, you can look up.
00:49:32.500 There's a video out there of me talking about school choice in 2015 that was professionally done.
00:49:38.920 So it's pretty good video.
00:49:40.000 Uh, they cut out all my mistakes, uh, 2017, uh, I filed a bill.
00:49:46.120 I had a majority of the house members, uh, in the Texas house had signed on as co-sponsors.
00:49:52.920 So we could have passed the bill.
00:49:54.640 The speaker did not let that bill get to the house floor.
00:49:58.900 Um, not, I don't know that he was anti-school choice.
00:50:04.840 He just was afraid and a lot of the members were afraid of their local school systems and
00:50:10.920 the teachers voting against them and all that because public school advocates have been against
00:50:15.020 school choice for a long time for no good reason, in my opinion, because if you've got
00:50:19.400 a good public school, you're not going to be hurt by people having school choice.
00:50:24.300 And maybe some of them going to private school, the people would rather send their kids to
00:50:29.060 a public school that is good and teaches the right things.
00:50:32.940 Not only in reading, writing, arithmetic, but their values are the same as well.
00:50:37.140 Just, just straight value.
00:50:38.780 It doesn't have to be religious values, but just right and wrong values.
00:50:42.020 Okay.
00:50:43.020 Um, so in 2017 and I left at the, uh, at the end of 2018, we still haven't gotten it done,
00:50:50.780 but the momentum was building.
00:50:52.140 Okay.
00:50:52.580 Every year we got more interest and more interest.
00:50:55.100 Well, this passed in 2023 or 25, I forget which one it was, but, uh, 25, I think that
00:51:04.880 they passed school choice in Texas.
00:51:06.940 The largest school choice, uh, program in the country allocated $500 million in a two
00:51:17.920 year budget cycle to go for parents that wanted to send their kids to someplace other than
00:51:25.580 a public school because it didn't work for them.
00:51:27.500 And the system is set up to where, uh, the kids, parents with kids with disabilities and
00:51:33.920 low income parents have the first shot at it.
00:51:35.940 And if there's money left over, other people can apply.
00:51:38.880 So it's essentially open to anyone, but there's a limited amount of money that's available
00:51:44.060 right now.
00:51:44.980 And it started actually this week is the week you could start to apply for that.
00:51:50.800 And it was so exciting to me that something we started a long time ago that certainly really
00:51:57.120 wasn't about me.
00:51:58.180 That's finally gotten done here in Texas.
00:52:00.760 And it's the, and you have a lot of other States as well.
00:52:03.200 So that's a big, big shout out.
00:52:05.640 If you, if you live in Texas, uh, you can, you can just Google school choice in Texas,
00:52:11.460 sign up, and it'll take you to the link where you can sign up for that and put your application
00:52:16.100 in.
00:52:16.320 Cause you never know disability kids can get up to $30,000, which is, you know, uh, special
00:52:24.280 needs education is super expensive.
00:52:26.440 So you can get up to 30,000 other kids can get up to 10,000 really, really good program.
00:52:34.000 The other thing, the last thing I want to talk about is something that most of us don't
00:52:37.320 know about, but you remember the big, beautiful bill, right?
00:52:39.920 How could we forget that?
00:52:41.440 One thing in there was that there's essentially now a $1,700 federal tax credit and tax credit.
00:52:50.180 Remember, I've talked about this before.
00:52:51.320 When you have a tax credit, if I owe 3000 in taxes and I get $1,000 tax credit, I only
00:52:56.800 owe $2,000.
00:52:58.100 Okay.
00:52:58.720 Unlike a tax deduction, which is just a percentage of that.
00:53:02.000 So a tax credit is dollar for dollar.
00:53:04.660 And there is a $1,700 tax credit available again in, in 2027 that if, that you can take
00:53:15.280 $1,700 off of something you would send to the government.
00:53:18.360 Instead, you would send it to these, what they call a scholarship granting organizations.
00:53:24.260 Okay.
00:53:24.900 And their whole deal is to give scholarships initially to low income kids so that they
00:53:32.100 can have school choice.
00:53:33.220 So why wouldn't you and I, which we should, and if we've got taxes to pay, which we all
00:53:39.000 have taxes to pay.
00:53:40.300 Okay.
00:53:40.960 Some of them are taken out of our, you know, payroll and some of them we, we just pay quarterly
00:53:45.300 is take that $1,700 of that and give it to one of these scholarship organizations so that
00:53:51.540 you can help more kids have school choices.
00:53:54.040 And, uh, uh, I know a guy at one of the organizations called ACE scholarships, ACE, you can look them
00:53:59.820 up.
00:54:00.400 Uh, and they say, this is going to be an incredible program.
00:54:04.280 So I want you to look into that because those of us that have a tax liability, which almost
00:54:09.440 all of us do, let's take $1,700 of that and give that to one of these organizations so
00:54:15.260 that they can help a kid have school choice.
00:54:17.080 That would be a really good thing to do.
00:54:19.440 So anyway, thank you for your time today.
00:54:21.260 I hope you enjoyed it.
00:54:22.340 Uh, we always appreciate you.
00:54:23.700 I appreciate you supporting Allie and her podcast.
00:54:26.040 Keep praying for her.
00:54:26.880 She's got a busy, uh, winter and spring where she's speaking all over the country.
00:54:30.660 And, uh, you know, she gets attacked like, uh, Ms. Hillary did, but, uh, Allie, uh, knows
00:54:36.200 how to, in her own special way and through the grace of God, be able to respond to that.
00:54:40.960 Thank you.
00:54:41.380 We'll see you next time.
00:55:00.660 Thank you.