Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 18, 2026


Ep 1319 | Teen Fiction’s Dark Turn, Islamification Update, & Reaction to Netflix’s Dino Doc


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00:00:00.780 Islamic terrorists are turning up the heat in America.
00:00:03.780 And finally, some of our leaders in Washington, D.C. are waking up and are trying to do something about it.
00:00:10.900 Also, there is a young adult fiction novel that has been endorsed by Good Morning America.
00:00:16.680 That depicts a very, very disturbing sexual theme that needs to be spoken out against.
00:00:23.260 We've got a guest here today, an expert, to talk about what that book is and how we fight back in our libraries.
00:00:30.000 and in our bookstores. And then I will be reacting to the Netflix documentary on
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00:04:05.800 of the things that we've got to discuss today. We've got the most serious stuff up front. We've
00:04:11.460 got a good conversation, important conversation in the middle, and then we'll end on a light-hearted
00:04:17.600 note, but also some serious points to be made as we discuss dinosaurs. Let us start with a very
00:04:24.380 unfortunate trend that has been happening for, in one sense, several centuries, but it certainly
00:04:30.160 ramped up in the past several years and then even more in the past several weeks, and that is
00:04:35.700 that in the last few weeks, there have been four terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. And it seems that
00:04:42.260 all of these terrorist attacks, these four attacks that have been lodged in the past three weeks
00:04:48.000 alone, have been inspired by Islam. All of them have associated themselves with Islam or ISIS,
00:04:56.620 Islamic terrorist groups, or they come from Islamic-majority countries. Earlier this month,
00:05:03.300 We mentioned this last week or a couple of weeks ago.
00:05:06.240 There was a bar shooting in Austin, Texas, where the perpetrator wore a property of a law hoodie.
00:05:13.000 You can see that right there.
00:05:14.340 He carried out the shooting.
00:05:15.880 Absolutely tragic.
00:05:17.240 Americans lost their lives there.
00:05:19.460 If you saw the videos going around of bartenders trying to resuscitate their customers after this, I almost said maniac.
00:05:26.920 But, you know, I don't even want to dismiss evil by calling it a mental health problem.
00:05:31.220 Just this evil person.
00:05:33.300 this evil perpetrator decided to take their lives, I guess, in the name of defending Iran,
00:05:39.200 defending the Islamic Republic, defending his version of God. And then in New York City last
00:05:44.900 week, two men attempted to use homemade explosive devices inspired by ISIS during a protest outside
00:05:52.080 Mayor Mamdani's residence. Now, they were not protesting Mayor Mamdani, who is a Muslim and
00:05:57.600 I believe a terrorist sympathizer himself, they were protesting, counter protesting, I guess,
00:06:04.900 or opposing a protest that was happening in New York City that was organized by those who are
00:06:12.780 anti-Islam. And critics would call it a white nationalist rally. And they would say, no,
00:06:18.700 they are just opposing the Islamic takeover of their city. And so these two young men,
00:06:25.680 They came from their nice, cushy suburb.
00:06:29.060 They came over to New York City and they tried to detonate a bomb.
00:06:33.100 And NYPD, I mean, filled with heroes that day, saving the lives of people, ensuring that those guys were arrested and that people remained safe and that that bomb did not kill people.
00:06:47.020 And then later that same week, Islamists carried out attacks on Old Dominion University in Virginia and the Temple Israel Synagogue in Michigan.
00:06:57.600 Now, the interesting thing, the disturbing thing here is that all of these attackers were in the United States legally.
00:07:06.480 OK, so these were not people who traveled in from Afghanistan and Afghani national that came here to the United States to carry out these attacks.
00:07:14.780 Of course, that would be devastating and disturbing.
00:07:17.020 They're also not illegal immigrants who came in through Biden's open border policies.
00:07:21.900 These are people who are naturalized citizens or the two guys in New York City.
00:07:26.640 I think they are the sons of immigrants.
00:07:29.880 So these are all legal citizens in the United States, which actually highlights a bigger and more troubling problem in the rise of Islam, that it goes beyond illegal immigration.
00:07:41.460 It goes beyond border policy.
00:07:43.320 We've got a much bigger, more insidious, cultural, moral issue going on here.
00:07:50.300 And so how we address that problem is a lot more difficult and is going to cause, I think,
00:07:58.380 a lot more pain and a lot more passionate reactions than we see over illegal immigration.
00:08:04.580 The Michigan synagogue attacker was a Lebanese national who was naturalized into a U.S. citizen in 2016.
00:08:13.920 The Old Dominion shooter, Mohamed Baylor Jallot, was a citizen who had already served time in prison for attempting to assist ISIS.
00:08:22.460 And so that was in 2016.
00:08:24.640 He was actually let out of prison under the Biden administration in December of 2024.
00:08:30.860 why was he let out of prison after he attempted to assist ISIS? It is completely unclear. So that
00:08:39.780 is actually a problem of our justice system. So we've got justice system problems, and we've got
00:08:45.340 legal immigration problems in the United States. And that legal immigration problem has resulted
00:08:51.660 in a huge rise in the Muslim population over the past several years. Specifically,
00:08:57.460 if we look at Pew Research from 2007 to 2017, the Muslim population in America rose from 2.35
00:09:04.840 million to 3.45 million. That is a 50% increase in just 10 years. Of course, 2017 was nine years
00:09:14.060 ago. And so it's increased a lot more since then. It's projected to reach 8.1 million by 2050. A lot
00:09:21.100 of this goes all the way back to a 1965 law called the heart seller act which got rid of the
00:09:28.620 mechanisms that we had in place to prioritize european migration and created a quota system
00:09:34.440 that has resulted in allowing lots of people with terrible ideologies from third world countries
00:09:41.500 to immigrate uh to the united states at higher rates than people from other countries who share
00:09:48.100 our same civilizational and moral values. Some of it is that. Some of it is the fact that I think
00:09:57.560 to combat this fear of Islamophobia after 9-11, America has felt the need to apologize or to
00:10:05.120 prove themselves by saying, no, we're not scared of Muslims. Just because Al-Qaeda killed over
00:10:11.380 2,000 people in the United States, let's welcome as many in as possible to prove that we're not
00:10:16.940 bigoted. Of course, that's civilizational suicide. That is the most deadly form of toxic empathy,
00:10:23.200 and we are guilty of it. And when I say we, I don't mean you and I, because we're probably not,
00:10:28.980 but our legislators certainly are, and they've sold us out. And now those chickens are coming
00:10:34.480 home to roost. The chickens of toxic empathy will always come home to roost, and they will always
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00:12:12.200 some republicans have tried to take action to combat the rise of islam in america
00:12:18.940 back in november of 2025 senator ted budd he's from north carolina uh he led colleagues in
00:12:25.560 introducing legislation to ban terrorist sympathizers from entering the u.s it's sad
00:12:30.720 that that takes any level of gumption or courage he stated that freedom of speech does not protect
00:12:35.980 calls to terrorism. Duh. In December 2025, U.S. Representatives Keith Self, he's from Texas,
00:12:43.580 and Chip Roy, who is now running for attorney general, officially launched attorney general
00:12:48.980 in the state of Texas, officially launched the Sharia Free America Caucus in the House of
00:12:54.260 Representatives in an effort to counter the rise of Sharia in the United States. After last week's
00:13:00.600 attacks, you had Congressman Riley Moore. He's from West Virginia. He said he will introduce a
00:13:05.080 bill to, quote, denaturalize and deport any naturalized citizen who commits or plots to
00:13:10.960 commit an act of terrorism, joins a terrorist organization, or otherwise aids and abets
00:13:16.100 terrorism against the American people. Again, the fact that that would be controversial
00:13:20.240 for anyone is insane. Republicans took to X to call out these Islamic terror attacks.
00:13:27.800 And I know a lot of people are like, oh, we don't want these congressmen just to say
00:13:31.260 something. They need to do something. Well, I will say some of these congressmen are trying to do
00:13:35.680 something. They're trying to put legislation forward. But also, what our leaders say really
00:13:41.240 does matter because it can shape culture and it does something called moving the Overton window
00:13:46.800 toward what is more acceptable. And the fact that we have congresspeople who are now willing to say
00:13:54.540 something like what Chip Roy said, Muslim immigrant violence naturalized or not is preventable,
00:14:00.920 until Democrats and Republicans find the courage to say no to the mass migration of Islamists,
00:14:07.220 our country will be plagued with more tragedies. It's stunning. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't
00:14:12.860 require courage. It shouldn't only be a handful of Republican Congress people who are willing to
00:14:18.260 say this. But it does. It does. It does take courage. It does take someone standing up and
00:14:24.360 saying, you know what, I'm going to represent the concerns of my constituents, which these
00:14:29.420 Republicans are and say that we not only have an illegal immigration problem, but we have a legal
00:14:36.380 migration problem. OK, we got to do something about it. Andy Ogles, he is from the state of
00:14:42.900 Tennessee, a congressman. He wrote this is I mean, this is very pointed. He said Muslims don't belong
00:14:50.140 in American society. Pluralism is a lie. Now, you might agree with that or you might disagree with
00:14:57.440 that. You might think that is too harsh, but the fact that we have a sitting congressman who is
00:15:03.000 willing to say, look, what Charlie Kirk did, that Islam and Western civilization, they don't go
00:15:10.600 together, they don't coincide, and someone who has been taught death to Christians, death to Jews,
00:15:17.120 death to America, which I'm not saying every individual Muslim has, but cultures certainly
00:15:21.920 in the Middle East do teach that pervasively, that it's going to be really hard to mesh that in
00:15:30.500 with American culture. That is a legitimate sentiment. Again, whether you agree with his
00:15:37.380 wording or not. Andy Ogles is leading a new bill that would shift the American immigration system
00:15:43.180 from a family-based focus, largely ending chain migration and prioritizing immigrants who serve
00:15:49.020 the national interest of the U.S., that goes back to that Hart Seller Act that I told you about in
00:15:53.380 1965 that created that chain migration, that if you have one family member over in the United
00:15:59.700 States, no matter where you're from, no matter what you could add to American society, no matter
00:16:05.220 how much productivity you offer, you can come to the United States over and above someone who may
00:16:12.520 not have any family members here, but who would be a wonderful, contributing, patriotic member of
00:16:18.740 society. And so it just prioritized all the wrong kinds of immigration. And that's why we have the
00:16:24.180 problems that we do. His legislation would also eliminate the diversity visa lottery. Again,
00:16:29.820 going back to that Hart Seller Act in 1965, that's that annual quota allowing for 55,000
00:16:35.760 immigrant visas for people from countries with otherwise low migration rates to the U.S. So if
00:16:41.800 Ogles' bill passes, which let's just be honest, it's going to be very, very difficult for it to
00:16:47.340 pass, but it would require new immigrants to pass a good character requirement, disbarring anyone
00:16:53.540 who has a gang affiliation, prior arrest records for domestic violence, or driving under the
00:17:00.420 influence even without convictions, confirmed misuse of public benefits. And the bill would
00:17:05.940 also require applicants to undergo enhanced background checks, including social media
00:17:11.040 review and in-person interviews. To me, that sounds like common sense. I don't see how anyone
00:17:19.140 can say, no, we don't want more scrutiny when it comes to who we allow in our country. I would need
00:17:25.880 to hear the moral and logical justification for opposing something like that. Then you've got
00:17:30.780 Tommy Tuberville. He's a congressman from Alabama. He posted a picture of 9-11 and Zoran Mamdani
00:17:37.600 side by side with the caption, the enemy is within the gates. And he is getting called out
00:17:44.280 for this, but it actually is very stunning that how many years are we? We're almost 25 years.
00:17:51.420 Can't believe it's been 25 years this year in September that we will have endured the deadliest
00:17:58.500 attack on U.S. soil by radical Muslims, by Al-Qaeda. And now we not only have a Muslim mayor,
00:18:05.180 but one who I believe has sympathized with Muslim terrorists, at least Muslim terrorist
00:18:12.540 sympathizers, and is really an apologist for Islamism, and of course has a public-facing
00:18:19.820 wife who has liked posts that are glorifying what happened on October 7th in Israel when
00:18:27.060 men, women, and children were raped and tortured and kidnapped and held hostage and murdered
00:18:31.860 en masse. And so that's who we have in the mayoral office in New York City just 25 years after we
00:18:39.000 suffered that attack under Al-Qaeda. Am I saying we should judge every single Muslim by what
00:18:45.160 happened on 9-11? No, I don't believe that. I don't believe in collective burden of guilt of
00:18:53.140 every single person that looks the same, that thinks the same, whatever, or that has the same
00:18:57.780 name or background. But I do believe that we can look at the ideology of Islam and what it has
00:19:05.240 produced around the world and ask ourselves, is this an advancement of the principles of Western
00:19:12.320 civilization, of the foundation of what America is, or is it an impediment? In general, are they
00:19:20.180 an impediment to peace or do they precipitate peace? And I think the answer to that is very
00:19:25.400 clear, considering that around 65,000 terrorist attacks of the last several years have come from
00:19:32.320 Muslims, and about 50 have come from people or groups that claim to be Christian. It might even
00:19:38.680 be 25, and I believe it's around 50 to 100 from individuals and groups that claim to be Jewish.
00:19:45.480 That's all around the world for several years, 65,000 from those who profess to be Muslims.
00:19:52.300 Now, Speaker Mike Johnson has a response to congressman's comments on Islam.
00:19:57.840 I've spoken to those members and all members, as I always do, about our tone and our message and what we say.
00:20:05.100 There's a lot of energy in the country and a lot of popular sentiment that the demand to impose Sharia law in America is a serious problem.
00:20:15.100 That's what animates this.
00:20:16.780 And that's the language that people use.
00:20:20.800 It's a different language than I would use.
00:20:22.000 But I think that that's a serious issue.
00:20:25.360 Sharia law and the imposition of Sharia law is contrary to the U.S. Constitution.
00:20:29.040 When you seek to come to a country and not assimilate, but to impose Sharia law,
00:20:34.480 Sharia law is in conflict with the U.S. Constitution.
00:20:36.660 That is the conflict that people are talking about.
00:20:39.220 It is not about people as Muslims.
00:20:41.820 It's about those who seek to impose a different belief system that is in direct conflict with the Constitution.
00:20:49.560 That's where I think that comes from.
00:20:50.640 okay i actually like that response uh by mike johnson i wasn't sure how i was going to feel
00:20:57.480 about it because a lot of times you get republicans in these positions and they start finger wagging
00:21:01.580 other republicans and say oh we shouldn't say that we love you know we want everyone of every
00:21:06.800 single background to come here and start talking about how awesome immigration is and how we're a
00:21:12.000 melting pot mosaic whatever and he didn't do that he actually was defending his people he was
00:21:17.500 defending Republicans. I don't think he gets the problem exactly right there because it's not
00:21:22.560 really about Sharia only. I don't even know if it's about Sharia primarily. It's about what the
00:21:28.720 ideology teaches as far as conquest and violence and the treatment of women and children and all
00:21:33.720 of those things and how incongruent that is with the American way of life and with the Declaration
00:21:40.900 of Independence, with what the founders believed and what we should still believe.
00:21:45.380 Just to put a fine point on this, according to the Global Terrorism Index, Islamist groups consistently account for the largest share of religiously motivated terrorism.
00:21:58.580 Over 95% of tracked religious incidents globally are Islamist.
00:22:03.180 Over 95% deaths are disproportionately higher.
00:22:06.320 Islamist groups caused over 80% of attributed terrorist deaths in 2024 per GTI analysis.
00:22:15.380 Islamist terrorism, unfortunately, is on the rise worldwide.
00:22:20.100 There were only 6,817 deaths from Islamic terrorism from 1979 to 2000.
00:22:26.720 That number rose to almost 40,000 from 2001 to 2012, then to 204, almost 205,000 from 2013 to 2024.
00:22:39.060 And so, unfortunately, this is an increasing trend.
00:22:41.920 This is something that is not only continuing to happen, but is getting worse and worse.
00:22:48.020 And for people to say, I've saw, you know, I've seen a lot of people commenting on this.
00:22:52.300 Oh, it's because of what we did in Iran.
00:22:54.060 It's because America and how they're treating these Muslim-majority countries.
00:22:58.880 And that's just not correct.
00:23:01.560 Far before America even existed, these kinds of conflicts were happening.
00:23:07.200 And so to say that it's because of recent American foreign policy is, again, just to misunderstand the Quran, is to misunderstand the ideology and the history of Islam since its inception.
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00:24:23.200 But if you point all of this out, all of these statistics, this reality that is just obviously
00:24:29.320 flying in our faces, you could get called Islamophobic.
00:24:32.940 there's even this just weird trend on the right that I've seen of sympathizing with Islam. And
00:24:39.060 it's not just about loving your individual Muslim neighbors, which, by the way, we should
00:24:43.040 all be doing. They are people made in the image of God, just as valuable as you or I. The gospel
00:24:48.880 is available to them. We should want that for them. We should want good things for them. We
00:24:53.520 have to be able to hold those two things, as I'll talk about a little bit more in a second,
00:24:58.040 at the same time. But this weird trend of trying to say that, well, Islam is better than Judaism
00:25:05.460 because Islam regards Jesus as a prophet. And according to the Talmud, Jesus is boiling and
00:25:12.620 excrement. I've seen things like that. Well, first of all, neither Islam nor Judaism get Jesus right.
00:25:19.460 Okay, so that both leads to the same place. Neither of them see Jesus as who he is, who is God. So I
00:25:26.500 really don't care whether someone sees Jesus as a political activist, whether someone sees Jesus as
00:25:32.320 this rebellious guy who's now in hell, or whether someone sees Jesus as a prophet. If you don't see
00:25:37.400 Jesus as who he is, who is God, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, then you get it wrong. You get it
00:25:44.140 equally wrong. And so I don't really care whether or not a religion honors Jesus if they are still
00:25:51.240 teaching something that is untrue and damning about who Jesus is. And I'm not really interested
00:25:58.080 in comparing these religions. And it's really not a competition. It's not a competition. I have
00:26:06.400 all of these huge fundamental disagreements with Judaism. But thank you to Judaism for not
00:26:13.200 inspiring thousands and thousands of terrorists that are killing Americans and that are oppressing
00:26:19.160 people worldwide. So I don't think that you want to get into a competition about which one is worse
00:26:25.500 theologically and which is producing a worse thing. Islam obviously takes the cake when it
00:26:32.720 comes to sowing destruction and violence and marginalization and oppression every single
00:26:40.200 place that it is popularized, not just in the Middle East, but thanks to mass migration
00:26:44.720 and Europe and now in the United States as well. It's just not comparable when it comes to the
00:26:51.260 effect of a particular ideology. And I feel that some people on the right have gotten this really
00:26:57.820 strange brain worm that has made them think that if they're nice about Islam, then the terrorism
00:27:04.400 won't come for you. And it's just not true. We have a short period of time, I think, in the United
00:27:10.440 States to be able to say what is true and to address this head on. Here's the truth,
00:27:16.500 and we should just all say it. This is something that Charlie used to say, and I think we need to
00:27:20.920 repeat it because it's true. It's as true as two plus two equals four. Islam as an ideology is
00:27:26.820 incompatible with Western civilization because it is a political ideology that is carried out
00:27:33.480 through conquest. If you read Raymond Ibrahim's The Sword in the Scimitar, we've had him on before,
00:27:38.400 ago, listen to that interview, to learn about the long history of conflict between Muslims
00:27:43.040 and Christians, you will see that the entire history of Islam has been one of war, violence,
00:27:49.040 oppression, conquest, Islam as an ideology, okay?
00:27:53.500 Not even talking about every single individual person that you know, but as an ideology rejects
00:27:58.940 the idea of the Imago Dei, the belief that both Jews and Christians share that all people
00:28:03.560 are made in God's image and are therefore of equal worth.
00:28:06.600 This belief is the basis of the human rights afforded to us in Western civilization and
00:28:12.020 specifically in the United States, the founding documents of which state primarily that we
00:28:17.420 were made by a creator who has given us rights that are unalienable simply because we were
00:28:22.640 created by him.
00:28:24.060 It is this belief partnered with a Christian belief of the gospel, which preaches a radically
00:28:28.840 equalizing message of everyone is equally dead in sin and can be equally made alive
00:28:34.020 in Jesus by grace through faith that radically changed how the world saw and treated people.
00:28:38.980 That, over time, elevated children, women, the poor, the sick, the slave, the elderly,
00:28:45.140 as fully human and entitled to dignity. It is this worldview that abolished slavery,
00:28:50.580 that set up the best system of justice and liberty the world has ever seen,
00:28:54.420 and we are giving it up to an ideology that inherently disbelieves and resents that.
00:29:00.240 There is a reason still today that slavery and the oppression of women and the sexual
00:29:04.000 socialization of children thrives in most of the Islamic world. It's not because of poverty. It's
00:29:10.140 not because of a lack of technology. I mean, their natural resources abound. It is because of ideology.
00:29:15.560 It is because what we believe informs who we are and what we do. And it is because of this ideology
00:29:20.800 that everywhere there is a high volume of Muslim migrants, there is increased violence, sexual
00:29:26.860 violence, religious persecution. That's not arguable. Again, this does not mean that all of
00:29:32.060 our Muslim neighbors are violent. Not at all. The vast majority of Muslims that we meet will not be
00:29:36.720 violent. Many of them will be kind, and we can befriend them. We can love them. We've talked
00:29:42.060 about that several times on this show. We can share the gospel with them, see the image of God
00:29:47.040 in them that is just as much in them as it is in us and our children, and be at the same time
00:29:53.540 completely clear-eyed about the contradiction between the American way of life and the ideology
00:29:59.060 of political Islam. In fact, we must do that. I think we are obligated to do that. Many forget
00:30:06.860 that one of the first wars engaged by the United States was the first Barbary War against the
00:30:12.400 Islamic Tripoli over piracy against American merchant ships. And we act like this conflict
00:30:18.780 is just because, again, of modern American geopolitics. It's not true. There's a long
00:30:24.300 history there. And right now, Islam is dominating the West through migration and eventual
00:30:28.860 domination. And our leaders, many of them are facilitating it. Raymond Ibrahim argues that it
00:30:35.640 was based on agape love, unconditional love, that our Christian forefathers fought against
00:30:41.060 Islamic conquest in ages past, literally laying down their lives for the safety of their women,
00:30:46.680 their children, and the civilization that God had given them. Remember, we've talked about this a
00:30:50.920 lot. Jeremiah 29.7, it urges the Hebrews in exile to seek the welfare of the city in which they'd
00:30:57.240 been placed. We Christians in exile are called to do the same. And I think part of that is speaking
00:31:03.740 courageously about the ideas, about the people, about the ideologies that is going to lead to a
00:31:10.640 more peaceful and stable nation for our children and our children's children. Holding the reality
00:31:17.820 of the Imago Dei in every person, the need for the gospel in every single person, and also the
00:31:24.380 collective good of the country in which God has placed us. Christians, I think, have to be clear
00:31:30.860 and courageous and loving and merciful and just and orderly all at the same time. That is a tension
00:31:37.280 that most people can't walk, but I think God in his word, as both love and justice equips us to
00:31:43.480 do that, I think both the Old and the New Testament give us principles that we can look to to walk in
00:31:50.860 that tension. And so that's what I strive to do. We all do it imperfectly. Pray for our leaders,
00:31:56.620 for them to have that courage and that gumption and that clarity and that wisdom and that strength
00:32:03.040 to show the agape love to protect the people that God has entrusted to them while also being
00:32:09.200 merciful and loving and gracious where they are called to do so. The future of our country
00:32:15.880 literally depends on it. All right, now we're going to move into a domestic issue because as
00:32:21.680 we're dealing with the green part of this alliance, we've got the red part of the red-green
00:32:29.140 alliance. We've got the Islamists over here and we've got the Marxists over here. And their efforts
00:32:36.040 are different than the Islamists, but the result is still the destruction of Western civilization
00:32:43.300 in the United States.
00:32:45.000 And one way that is done is through the sexualization and the degradation of children.
00:32:49.900 And unfortunately, this time, that is being promoted through a book that is being endorsed
00:32:54.720 by Good Morning America.
00:32:56.220 So we've got my good friend, Anne Say.
00:32:59.460 She is coming on the show, and she is going to be talking about this.
00:33:03.260 This is an issue that she cares about a lot because she runs an account that shows you
00:33:07.420 the good and edifying books that you and your children should be reading.
00:33:11.260 So she's got the lowdown on all of that in just a second.
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00:34:32.580 And thanks so much for joining the show again.
00:34:35.500 Okay, just as a refresher for some people, tell us who you are and what you do.
00:34:39.520 Yeah, so I'm the founder of Library for Kiddos.
00:34:44.220 My background is in public libraries.
00:34:46.960 And what I do is I read, review, and recommend books that align with more conservative and Christian values for middle grade and teens.
00:34:58.740 And I help parents navigate their local libraries.
00:35:01.680 Yeah. And it's not only explicitly Christian books that you're recommending, but you're going through these books and making sure there aren't any simple, subversive themes glorifying things that are wicked and evil. So if someone's following you, it's not only that you're going to be recommending C.S. Lewis. You're just going to make sure that what kids are reading aren't anti-biblical.
00:35:24.680 Yes.
00:35:25.020 Yeah, I love that. And you were really shocked that Good Morning America recommended this book
00:35:30.560 by an author named Melissa De La Cruz. She's a number one New York Times bestselling author.
00:35:36.540 So that goes to show her young adult fiction is very popular. She wrote a book called Sibylline,
00:35:43.660 Risk It All for Magic, Ruin It All for Love. And it was recommended by Good Morning America. Here's
00:35:50.480 sought six. Now with number one New York Times bestselling author, Melissa de la Cruz, who's
00:35:55.420 got her readers spellbound thanks to her latest novel and our GMA Young Adult book club pick for
00:36:00.520 February, Sibylline. Okay, tell me about Sibylline. Why is this troubling?
00:36:07.820 Well, on a lot of fronts, it's described as a dark academia, which is a very popular kind of
00:36:15.220 genre right now it's marketed to initially it was marketed to 12 to 17 year olds and it's very
00:36:23.260 problematic because not only does it have magic that dives into the occult like there's um seances
00:36:32.360 there's like a possession of people necromancy like the stuff deuteronomy 18 warns against
00:36:39.960 Yeah. Which is in and of itself not great, especially for that age group. But also on page 284, there is a very graphic scene of a threesome. And it's done on the friend who they think is dead.
00:37:01.020 so not only a threesome but necrophilia like yeah I just and I did I read it for you so you don't
00:37:12.560 have to it is horrendous it's it's very very troubling yeah so this is a character in the
00:37:21.300 book named Atticus and they believe he's dead you can see that on page 281 it says he's not
00:37:26.700 breathing he's not moving he's dead Atticus is dead and I'm just warning the people who are
00:37:32.120 listening to this and watching this like if you've got kids in the car and you don't want them to
00:37:36.380 hear depictions of this but I just want to be clear about what is actually being depicted it's
00:37:40.740 not some closed door thing that's happening not that that would be okay but this author depicts
00:37:46.500 this dead person as being anally raped, orally raped. And there's also like vaginal sex. I don't
00:37:56.960 even know whether to call it sex or rape and ejaculation. Okay. So that is the kind of
00:38:01.480 necrophilia, sexual assault that is being depicted, not only depicted, but glorified
00:38:08.320 to 11 to 17 year olds that is the kind of age age bracket that this book is targeting right
00:38:16.820 yes uh what a lot of people don't understand about young adult is that over half of the people
00:38:26.300 reading young adult are actual adults we're talking 18 and on mainly i think the the major
00:38:35.840 age range that that reads a young adult is like 28 and over so publishers know this right there is
00:38:44.440 um a study done in 2024 by harper collins in the uk 74 percent of young adult is being consumed by
00:38:54.400 actual adults and not young adults right not the the teen um audience right that the protagonists
00:39:03.420 are usually the age of right and so to them it's kind of like it's it's a progression that makes
00:39:11.020 sense right um the issue is of course that melissa de la cruz is known for her middle grade novels as
00:39:19.540 well so my fear is that parents who are not aware um and who have said well we've we've read her
00:39:27.720 descendants series or you know her alex and eliza series which is about alexander hamilton and his
00:39:34.880 wife you know we're we're just gonna it's it's okay to read this book and it's not it's just not
00:39:40.900 yeah um and i and i really warn i warn parents against young adults um it's why i read so much
00:39:49.740 um and and make lists for teens because i want them to i want parents to be able to give
00:39:56.640 to their kids books that are fun to read and appropriate right you know there's this whole
00:40:03.680 other trend that we could talk about not another trend the trend that you're talking about but it
00:40:08.200 extends to other areas too of adultifying um content that is supposed to be for children but
00:40:17.880 also kind of like infantilizing adults i think about the phenomenon of the disney adult and how
00:40:24.020 Disney parks have started to cater to the adults without children that are not just,
00:40:31.160 oh, I'm just going to go because I'm in Orlando, but are really obsessive with Disney,
00:40:35.480 that Disney in a lot of ways has become more mature. You see this, we talk about from time
00:40:40.380 to time, the like adult doll community that has these conferences with dolls. And so it's this
00:40:46.920 weird thing going on where industries that are supposed to be for children are catering to
00:40:51.760 adults. And so kids have access to more mature and sometimes sexually explicit content or items
00:40:59.200 or whatever it is. But at the same time, adults are becoming more like children and the interest
00:41:08.140 that they have in the activities and the books that they engage in. There's a very disturbing
00:41:13.020 convergence there because the idea of an adult reading a book about teenagers, I assume this is
00:41:20.740 probably about teenagers engaging in rape I mean you just you have to be a very disturbed and I
00:41:28.940 think dangerous person to find that interesting and the fact that the book industry the publishing
00:41:36.720 industry is just catering to that is very troubling to me yeah yeah it is it is and
00:41:43.280 it's not anything new I I mean I've been reading YA like YA is considered a genre in and of its
00:41:50.680 And so I've been reading YA really since like 2013 when I started in libraries and I've seen this progression. So, and honestly, like I wasn't surprised when I heard about this story, I was just like, well, yeah, of course they're going to do that.
00:42:08.020 Everyone should be outraged, and everyone should be disturbed. But it's the natural progression that's been going on since, I mean, honestly, since 2010. So 2010 is really when this kind of crossover happened.
00:42:26.100 Like, I'm sure you probably can guess like the Hunger Games, the Twilight series, all of that was YA.
00:42:34.880 And although it's not like great, it's still pretty appropriate for the core audience, like 13 to 17.
00:42:43.040 Although I don't recommend it for 13 year olds.
00:42:45.700 Don't don't. That's not what I'm saying.
00:42:47.140 But the point is adults found that really appealing.
00:42:50.880 and so in the 2010s is when it really really started to explode as a genre and then that
00:42:58.620 progression has just gradually gotten worse do you think twilight had something to do with that
00:43:05.080 oh yeah for sure for sure because it was written for teens but adults loved it they thought it was
00:43:13.420 great like it had its own fan club right its own fan fiction all it just exploded yeah so twilight
00:43:20.760 And Hunger Games is where it really started to – publishers were like, there's something here, right?
00:43:27.460 This is a moneymaker.
00:43:29.000 This age group is a moneymaker if we make it appeal to adults.
00:43:32.860 And so that's really, really when it started to get bad.
00:43:37.660 Yeah.
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00:44:59.400 have been talking about it, but I've seen this talked about in other circles as well. Other
00:45:04.080 outlets have covered this. It's just that people are aghast not only that this exists, but also
00:45:10.100 that Good Morning America put their stamp of approval on it. That is one of the most shocking
00:45:16.520 parts of this story so what has been the reaction to that yeah it's it's not been good there are
00:45:22.880 publishers always send out arcs so advanced reader copies to people who have um who are
00:45:29.200 influencers on instagram who have a large following on goodreads and there there was a ton of blowback
00:45:37.100 before this was even published people who read the arcs said contacted the publishers and said
00:45:43.860 this is not gonna fly this is gonna have huge backlash you need to do something at least
00:45:48.360 at the very least of the age right like 17 or older right um and the publishers just didn't
00:45:56.940 listen and you didn't see it in that clip but one of the hosts said i have a 13 year old and i can't
00:46:03.780 wait for her to read this i don't know if she has read it herself but the comments were scathing
00:46:09.520 they're like don't give this to your 13 year old of course i mean people who people who are not even
00:46:14.920 believers that i read i read a ton of reviews on goodreads which it's tanking on goodreads good
00:46:21.440 which is i'm sorry goodreads is like the amazon database so you can keep track of what you read
00:46:27.240 and people go in and read reviews on goodreads you know keep track of things um kind of like a
00:46:33.880 database and the average five like is five stars the average review star review is one or a two
00:46:42.300 yeah and so and and this and when i checked i didn't check it right before i came on but i
00:46:48.680 checked it the other day you can write a review on goodreads for a while you couldn't it was it
00:46:54.940 there was so much blowback and so many people wanted to write a review that they like kind of
00:47:00.100 shut it down um and also melissa de la cruz has made her instagram private wow um the publishers
00:47:09.180 have now um on their on their age range they said 17 and up but that was the that was after it was
00:47:18.960 published that was after all these libraries have their copy with the stamp of approval from
00:47:24.420 good good morning america um so the the the pushback has been extensive it's been very
00:47:32.980 extensive you know these accidents when it comes to the mainstream media in a variety of ways but
00:47:39.840 certainly when it comes to the endorsement of particular books and content for children
00:47:44.060 only seems to ever skew one direction like i i've never seen a controversy where it's like
00:47:50.360 whoops good morning america accidentally endorsed this book that shares the gospel in it like oh
00:47:56.680 they didn't know that it had biblical themes it's always like oh my gosh we endorse this book that
00:48:02.620 has necrophilia in it the rape of a dead teenager whoops it's just it's like it reminds me of that
00:48:10.860 balenciaga scandal that i talked about a few years ago where it was really weird they had these bears
00:48:18.260 this is the convergence that we were just talking about. Like it had these toys, but that were
00:48:22.380 dressed up in sexual BDSM gear. And the papers that were askew on the desk happened to be
00:48:29.280 the Supreme Court case text of a case about sexual abuse of children material. Okay. And so they were
00:48:40.540 like, oh, whoops, we didn't even see. I'm like, oh, that's so weird that it just happened to be
00:48:45.220 that and it wasn't accidentally the pages of a bible it just seems like the mistakes always go
00:48:53.020 one direction which just feels like less of a mistake and more deliberate but i am encouraged
00:48:59.940 that there's been so much blowback i am too it's and it's not just uh christians it's not just
00:49:07.940 conservatives it's it's really but if you go and you read some of the reviews on goodreads
00:49:13.580 you know, there's this mom who says, I'm not a prude. I'm not a prude. My 14 year old and I talk
00:49:20.380 about sex all the time. I don't mind this, that, whatever it's like, but this does not belong in
00:49:25.720 young adult literature and review and review after review of, of people who are just like, I, you
00:49:33.000 know, I don't have a problem if this was in an adult book, but this is not for young adults.
00:49:38.440 this is not for teens. So I was encouraged by that as well. Okay, two questions for you. Parents
00:49:45.220 are like, okay, what do I do? Number one, if they found a book like this in their local library
00:49:50.020 that's in the teen section, or is being targeted, particularly towards kids, is there anything
00:49:55.620 that you can do as a member of a library? Yes, yes, yes, yes. But let me first say,
00:50:02.860 don't hide that book. I know it's really tempting to hide that book, but it actually works
00:50:08.180 against you when you do that in a, in a library, if you want to do it in a bookstore or in a general
00:50:13.060 store, fine, go ahead. That's, that's not, um, libraries work differently. So what you do is you
00:50:20.540 find out how your library reviews the source, like their collection. Um, I haven't been able
00:50:28.480 to do this yet with this book. Um, the one that I have is from my local library. Um, but what you
00:50:34.200 do is you go in and you show them the title and you say I would like this to be put under review
00:50:38.820 what's what's the process usually it's paperwork you can you know some some libraries they have
00:50:45.280 it online some they have it on a piece of paper that you fill out and you hand back to the librarian
00:50:52.020 do it like graciously you know how you always say raise a respectful ruckus like respectful
00:50:59.400 is really key here because most of the people who work in libraries are liberal and they have a view
00:51:08.080 of people with conservative values that they are they're fighters that they're just going to come
00:51:13.560 in and disrupt there are people who don't even use the library and they just want to they just
00:51:18.980 want to mess everything up so when you go in and you respectfully say listen I read this book on
00:51:27.360 page 284, there is a graphic depiction of necrophilia, of rape, and a threesome. And I
00:51:37.480 ask that it be removed from the teen section and put in the adult section, if it can't be removed
00:51:43.880 from the library at all. Most of the time, items are not removed from the library, unless they are
00:51:50.880 not checked out for, you know, like a year. And so I would encourage anyone who sees this book
00:51:58.300 at their library to go through that process, because that will gain the respect of the
00:52:05.360 librarians are like, Oh, wow, they, you know, they, they had a problem with this book, and they
00:52:09.560 didn't come in with pitchforks. They were very kind and respectful, and went through the process
00:52:16.900 that the library has in place for moments like this.
00:52:20.040 Okay, that's super helpful advice.
00:52:21.740 Thank you for that.
00:52:22.780 And if people want to know the positive recommendations
00:52:25.940 that you give, how can they do that?
00:52:29.640 Sure, you can find me on Instagram
00:52:32.880 at library underscore four,
00:52:35.840 like the number four, underscore kiddos.
00:52:39.060 And then you can also see what I have available
00:52:42.080 at libraryforkiddos.com.
00:52:44.400 Awesome, thank you so much, Anne.
00:52:46.040 And I really appreciate it.
00:52:47.880 All right.
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00:54:04.760 We have a new documentary, a documentary miniseries on dinosaurs, which I think is so funny to call it a documentary as if we are documenting the dinosaurs that lived so many millennia ago.
00:54:20.620 Now, the reason I'm talking about this, if you're new here, and I realize in my new setup, we don't have our dino mascots, but maybe you've noticed that I've got little dinosaur ceramic little guys around my set.
00:54:33.680 The reason for that is because many moons ago, Brie and I did an episode about conspiracy theories that we find interesting or parts of the conspiracy theories that we find compelling.
00:54:45.660 And mine was that I don't know about dinosaurs.
00:54:48.720 Y'all, I have literally gotten handwritten letters from people across the country shipped to me somehow or someone who knows me to tell me how disgusting and dangerous and wrong it is that I would dare question paleontology.
00:55:06.580 I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ross from Friends who sent me this letter.
00:55:11.520 That's how passionate it was.
00:55:13.180 And honestly, it has made me more resolved in my skepticism.
00:55:17.180 It is not that I don't think that giant animals existed a long time ago.
00:55:23.900 It is just that I don't think we know what they looked like and that we don't know what
00:55:29.240 they sounded like.
00:55:29.980 I know we've got fossils and different things like that.
00:55:32.380 We actually don't have any complete fossil of a T-Rex, for example.
00:55:38.060 We're just kind of going a little bit on deductive reasoning and vibes.
00:55:41.960 We definitely don't know that they had scales.
00:55:44.200 We definitely don't know what a pterodactyl sounded like, and we're all just supposed to believe it because of the science, all right?
00:55:51.640 So I just want to go through some of these clips.
00:55:54.740 Give us a reaction.
00:55:55.760 Let's put on our critical thinking caps and decide if we think these creatures existed 170 million years ago.
00:56:05.360 Sot2.
00:56:08.900 Earth, 66 million years ago.
00:56:14.200 During the great reign of the dinosaurs, majestic creatures, giants, and monsters that can often seem more imagined than real.
00:56:35.580 that was an easter egg right there from morgan freeman that they seem more imagined than real
00:56:43.440 because they are i don't think we have this in the document and so we'll have to find these and
00:56:48.860 put these up we've put these up before i want to show you these skeletons of these different
00:56:55.860 animals okay i want to show you a skeleton of an owl the skeleton of a hippopotamus
00:57:03.280 the skeleton of a baboon the skeleton of a chicken
00:57:09.120 now i could have lied to you and i could have told you this is um a triceratops or i could
00:57:19.700 have told you this is uh any kind of tops in any kind of sore i could have told you this is a
00:57:25.340 liposaurus rex and you probably would have believed in you and said wow if i just put
00:57:30.580 scales on that thing and I put some scary nostrils and some tiny little arms, you probably would have
00:57:37.300 been like, Allie, wow, you're such an incredible paleontologist. How did you know? But then I would
00:57:43.880 reveal to you, no, that's just a chicken. That's just a hippo dog. That is not a dinosaur. But
00:57:51.540 we're all just supposed to believe, based on the bones, that this is what a daddy long neck,
00:57:58.460 that's the official name, looked like.
00:58:01.420 Here's thought three.
00:58:06.500 Anky Ornus.
00:58:09.960 Yes, he looks a bit like a chicken.
00:58:14.460 And he is about the size of one.
00:58:18.700 But he's nevertheless a dinosaur.
00:58:26.240 Looks like a chicken!
00:58:28.440 Ha!
00:58:29.360 Maybe because it is a chicken.
00:58:32.400 Maybe so.
00:58:33.120 There is no way that we knew that this guy had blue fuzz on him.
00:58:40.360 No way.
00:58:42.180 Okay, let's go with Ankylosaurus.
00:58:46.540 Never heard of this one before.
00:58:48.860 The Ankylosaurus they know from The Bones had a passion for singing.
00:58:54.040 Stop for.
00:58:54.480 This is the one place where he can truly be himself.
00:59:11.000 His passion is singing.
00:59:14.480 he even has special olives in his snout
00:59:25.140 that amplify his song
00:59:27.320 so it can be heard
00:59:34.520 far and wide
00:59:44.480 we don't know y'all we don't know this is a hobby for some people okay this is a fantasy they have
00:59:54.040 this is the paleontologist version of lord of the rings okay this is like these people they wanted
01:00:01.780 to they just they i don't know they enjoy jurassic park a little bit too much
01:00:07.860 they Darwined a little too hard and they came up with this world and we're all supposed to trust
01:00:17.600 these people I saw someone on Instagram say you'll believe in the ankylosaurus but you won't believe
01:00:24.480 in the resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord you won't believe that the God of all the universe
01:00:29.640 has the power to defeat death and rise from the grave three days after being crucified but you're
01:00:35.200 like that's what a pterodactyl looked like. Come on now. You have faith, atheist. You do.
01:00:42.920 You might have more faith than me because you watch this documentary and you're like,
01:00:46.380 this for sure happened. I don't know. Okay. The documentary implies that all species of
01:00:53.220 birds derive their origins from dinosaurs. All birds are dinosaurs. Not all dinosaurs died.
01:01:01.840 Some were small enough to find shelter from the apocalypse, and survive even to this day.
01:01:19.840 The flying dinosaurs we now call the birds.
01:01:24.840 and the clues to their past are hiding in plain sight.
01:01:46.820 Oh my gosh, that's so funny. So an owl is one of the examples of a living dinosaur. What did I
01:01:54.200 tell you. If you look at owl bones, it looks like what a dinosaur looked like. They're saying,
01:01:59.300 well, yeah, because owls evolved from dinosaurs. What if it was an owl all along? That's all I'm
01:02:05.180 saying. I don't care. Send me your letters. Do your angry videos. I've seen so many people,
01:02:11.440 people who identify as Christians make angry videos. Oh, I agreed with Allie, but this is
01:02:16.120 just too far. Okay. Okay. Morgan Freeman. Got it. I don't know. Just something about this just makes
01:02:24.880 me a little bit skeptical. Could God do it? Of course he could do it. He can do anything. But
01:02:31.520 first of all, I don't buy this age of the earth. I don't. And I don't believe in macro evolution.
01:02:39.220 and I think that a lot of these people just really like the fantastical idea of these
01:02:47.500 creatures existing and I think that they were maybe just bigger versions of the animals that
01:02:52.680 we have today that's my conclusion you heard it here maybe not first but perhaps most prominently
01:02:59.780 that's my story and I'm sticking to it all right that's all we've got time for today
01:03:05.260 we will be back here on Friday
01:03:07.220 We'll be right back.