Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1323 ｜ ‘Love Is Blind’： Best & Worst, OnlyFans Mogul Dies & the UK Needs a Pro-Life Miracle

00:00:00.640 What can Love is Blind teach us about the importance of having children and the importance

00:00:05.960 of Christian marriage?

00:00:07.240 Today we will discuss also the owner of OnlyFans has died.

00:00:11.640 There is a lot to learn from his life, his legacy, the judgment that he now faces, but

00:00:16.960 also the hope that we have in the gospel.

00:00:19.220 We'll also be talking to my friend Lila Rose about the decriminalization of abortion in

00:00:24.320 the UK.

00:00:24.660 We've got all of this and much more on today's episode of Relatable.

00:00:30.000 hey guys welcome to relatable happy wednesday hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far

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00:01:24.020 to talk about today. They are all connected. And I love when all of my subjects are connected in

00:01:29.180 one way. All right. First, we've got to talk about the most serious, or I guess it's a competition

00:01:35.340 for what is the most serious issue that we're talking about today. But when you're talking

00:01:38.780 about people's eternal destination and eternal judgment, I would say there's a lot of gravity

00:01:44.180 that comes with that. I want to talk about two men who profited off of the exploitation and women

00:01:51.620 and children for many years of their life, that they have both now died in the same week.

00:01:58.020 So I want to ask some questions.

00:02:00.240 How did these men become heroes in our society?

00:02:03.420 How should Christians react when wicked people like these people die?

00:02:08.180 And how does the gospel inform what we think about abusers, what we think about justice

00:02:14.540 for abusers?

00:02:15.900 The first of these two men is the now deceased owner of OnlyFans.

00:02:20.040 His name was Leonid Rudvinsky. He died this week at the age of 43 following a cancer battle.

00:02:27.220 And just a little bit about this person, I didn't know anything about him. I never asked who owns

00:02:32.060 the adult content site OnlyFans, but it turns out that he had actually been in the illicit

00:02:38.940 online content industry since the late 90s. He operated a network of websites that advertised

00:02:44.460 access to hacked passwords of adult websites. So this is something he was doing early 20s,

00:02:50.320 late teens in his life. These websites often promised illegal content to attract clicks.

00:02:56.400 These sites made him millions of dollars. And then in 2000, his site Password Universe published a

00:03:01.460 link claiming to offer pedophiles more than 10,000 illegal preteen passwords. Another one of

00:03:09.040 Rudvinsky's, I think I'm pronouncing his name right, one of his sites had a link for the

00:03:14.240 hottest underaged hardcore containing 16 year olds okay so this is how he built his empire this

00:03:21.080 is how he made millions of dollars not just through technology not just through your run-of-the-mill

00:03:26.080 depraved pornography but child sexual exploitation his site ultra passwords promised a link containing

00:03:33.420 the best illegal teen passwords and i it's really hard to even read some of this stuff but he

00:03:38.960 promoted things like bestiality literally all kinds of sexual depravity on these websites

00:03:44.220 now here is also another side of this is that he wasn't just openly promoting sexual degradation

00:03:51.380 of women children and animals there is also a deceptive side of this because there's no 1.00

00:03:56.960 evidence that these passwords actually gave access to illegal material instead the model

00:04:02.540 appears to have relied on affiliate style traffic generation directing users to partner sites in

00:04:07.320 exchange for revenue. And so I assume that is how he has skirted the law. That was why he was able

00:04:14.400 to die at the age of 43, a free man and not in prison. He continued working throughout his life

00:04:20.780 within the online adult industry. In 2018, he purchased OnlyFans, which at the time was a

00:04:27.240 relatively small subscription-based platform. There were 13 million users in 2019, which is

00:04:33.220 already huge but then after radinski uh purchased the company the site expanded rapidly it became

00:04:40.140 closely associated with paid porn content i guess that's not always what it was but after he owned

00:04:46.460 the company that's became that became its bread and butter uh attracted a large global user base

00:04:52.600 it is the subscription-based platform for those of you who don't know where creators sell exclusive

00:04:57.760 content directly to fans. It is very often, in fact, I think at least in the public conscious,

00:05:04.020 it is almost exclusively sexually explicit content. It has become super successful since

00:05:12.240 he took over. It's generated hundreds of millions in revenue, attracting millions of creators,

00:05:17.160 tens of millions of paying users. It took off really because of COVID lockdowns. And there's

00:05:23.080 such a lesson there about isolation and loneliness and purposelessness and how this leads people to

00:05:29.400 seek fleeting pleasure in some kind of superficial companionship and online pornography. I think the

00:05:35.520 thing about OnlyFans that is different also than just like going to Pornhub or something like that

00:05:41.360 is that the users sometimes feel like they've built a relationship with this person and it's

00:05:46.400 more curated to a specific niche of an audience. And so you could see why a bunch of these lonely

00:05:52.140 men, and it is vast majority of men during this very lonely, isolated time would turn to these

00:05:59.940 sexual superficial internet relationships via OnlyFans. Paying subscribers surged by over 500

00:06:07.000 percent to reach 82 million. In November 2020, OnlyFans generated 400 million dollars in revenue,

00:06:13.740 a 540% increase from the previous year, 80% coming from U.S. users.

00:06:20.880 The number of creators grew nearly five-fold to 1.6 million.

00:06:24.380 That's 1.6 million people in the world selling their bodies for money.

00:06:29.300 Rudvinsky, during this time, he became a billionaire.

00:06:31.840 He became a billionaire in 2021.

00:06:33.660 He more than doubled his net worth to $4.7 billion by the time of his death.

00:06:38.180 He eventually was making $1.9 million a day.

00:06:43.740 from people selling their bodies, people buying the bodies, really just images and videos of

00:06:49.200 the bodies of image bearers of God. I mean, what a dirty business. And it also just goes to show 1.00

00:06:54.860 that money not only can't buy you happiness, we know that to be true, but it can't buy you health

00:06:59.980 and it can't help you skirt death. The success of OnlyFans and its deception of its creators

00:07:06.120 is staggering. In the late 90s, it was estimated that there were more about 1,600 porn actors,

00:07:11.100 mostly based in LA. Today, OnlyFans alone has over 4.6 million creators with almost a million

00:07:17.440 new creator accounts created in the last year alone, meaning that over 2,500 creators sign up

00:07:23.020 each day. And these girls are lured by stories of these top creators. We've talked about some of

00:07:30.140 their ridiculous stunts in the past, and there was even one who claimed to recently become a 0.87

00:07:34.960 Christian, but then at the same time was like, I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing. So 0.72

00:07:38.340 a little confused about that testimony. I guess we'll see about that. But very famous women who 1.00

00:07:44.960 get lots of Instagram followers, get lots of sponsorships in addition to the money that

00:07:49.200 they're making from subscriptions. And these impressionable girls, teenagers, 20-year-olds

00:07:54.100 think that they're going to be able to do the same thing. They think that they're going to be

00:07:57.680 able to gain financial independence and fame from OnlyFans. But the average creator on OnlyFans

00:08:02.720 only earns $131 a month. I mean, one of the reasons that not many users are making a lot

00:08:10.040 of money is actually, I think, probably because there are so many viewers of pornography that,

00:08:17.880 and so many creators for pornography, really. Like, that's really what it is. There are so

00:08:22.380 many creators now that democratization of pornography, if you will, has actually probably

00:08:27.500 made it more difficult for the creators to make more money. But there are a lot, a lot of people

00:08:34.660 who are consuming pornography. About 67% to 78% reportedly of U.S. men report having used

00:08:41.620 pornography at some point. I had to double check this number because it is so stunning, but I found

00:08:47.720 that 87% of men between 18 and 35 in the U.S., 87% report watching porn at least once a week.

00:09:00.120 This has enabled just new levels of depravity. I mean, you can argue whether it's a supply or a

00:09:06.620 demand issue. I mean, both are simple. You're simple for supplying it, but you're also simple

00:09:12.380 for demanding it. I mean, I don't think that there's going to be a supply if there's not a

00:09:17.180 demand. You could say there's not going to be a demand if there's not a supply. I actually think

00:09:21.000 it's the first. I don't think that there's going to be as much of a supply if there weren't such

00:09:25.940 a high demand among men for pornography. And then you have people like Lily Phillips. That's the 1.00

00:09:31.920 person I was talking about earlier who said that she became a Christian. I pray to the Lord that's

00:09:35.640 true, but she famously slept with 100 men and 24 hours. She's this big OnlyFans star. And now she 1.00

00:09:41.720 He wants to break the world record of sleeping with 919 men in a day.

00:09:45.700 And so when you combine virality, which OnlyFans does, and being able to make millions and millions of dollars, the fame, the success, the prominence with selling your body for sex, I mean, it is just unfathomable to most of us just the levels of degradation that people will go to.

00:10:10.940 And then, of course, you've got the abuse behind all of this.

00:10:14.940 Like, it's not just this glamorous life of consensual adults consuming and selling sex.

00:10:20.460 According to a survey of OnlyFans seekers, 6% of respondents self-disclosed that traffickers helped create and market their OnlyFans account.

00:10:28.260 11% were aware of minors with accounts.

00:10:31.180 30% received private messages from suspected traffickers.

00:10:35.020 34% reported negative physical mental health outcomes.

00:10:38.540 Of course, that's true.

00:10:39.580 A 2024 Reuters investigation found that over 120 plus police complaints in the U.S. involved

00:10:47.340 explicit content posted without consent. Case files examined by Reuters also cited more than

00:10:53.000 200 explicit videos and images of kids. I can't even describe, I can't even read the last sentence,

00:11:00.340 but explicit sexual rape interactions with children. All sexual interaction with children 0.75

00:11:07.600 is rape and assault. I just want to make sure that you know that. That's why I don't even like using

00:11:12.960 the phrase child pornography. It's not pornography. It is the sexual abuse of children that people are

00:11:18.220 making money off of. So this person made his fortune off of this, off of at least in the first

00:11:27.480 decades of his career, trying to tempt people towards accessing child sex abuse material. He

00:11:33.340 made money off of child sex abuse material, sex abuse of adults, the exploitation and the 0.53

00:11:39.560 objectification of bodies. That is his legacy. And now he has met his maker. So I'll get more

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00:13:52.180 so radvinsky commercialized sex and rape even the rape of minors by promising both those selling 0.58

00:14:00.740 their bodies and those buying their bodies that they can do these things without consequence just 0.96

00:14:06.200 give your body and there's only upside you'll get money you'll get fame you'll get pleasure

00:14:10.500 and that is exactly how satan works he exaggerates the benefits and downplays the consequences of sin

00:14:16.760 and it's the same story that we see going all the way back to the garden of eden

00:14:20.760 just eat this fruit and you'll be like, God, you will not surely die. There is some truth,

00:14:26.780 of course, to what Satan said to Adam and Eve. There is, there was a new knowledge that was

00:14:32.280 accessed by Adam and Eve when they ate of the fruit, a knowledge that at that point only God

00:14:36.960 seemingly had. The knowledge, for example, that they were naked. The knowledge that disobedience

00:14:41.340 to God comes with shame. And it was true that they didn't die immediately. But what did Satan

00:14:47.380 obscure, that the knowledge of good and evil would spiral into millennia of brutality and

00:14:52.780 bloodthirst, that there would be pain, there would be punishment, there'd be separation from God,

00:14:57.960 that not that day, but one day they would actually die, that the perfect fellowship that they had

00:15:03.180 with their creator and creation would end. And Satan does something really similar when he tempts

00:15:08.400 Jesus in the wilderness. He uses God's own word to try to convince Jesus to bow down to him.

00:15:13.840 But Jesus refused Satan's misuse of scripture with a proper use of scripture, and he refuses

00:15:20.380 to obey the devil.

00:15:21.700 Understanding the Bible and theology really matters.

00:15:24.120 There's lots to be learned there.

00:15:26.120 Temptation, when coupled with half-truths, promises of pleasure and satisfaction and

00:15:30.560 self-glory, when accompanied by loneliness or desperation or isolation, is really hard

00:15:35.620 to resist.

00:15:37.180 The good news is this.

00:15:38.960 That's all the bad news.

00:15:39.820 But the good news is that God is really good, that he is really gracious, that he loves

00:15:45.020 us so much, and he loves us so much that he gives us parameters and rules for our body

00:15:50.680 that are good for us.

00:15:52.800 Before the fall, he gives us the model for what healthy sex looks like in Genesis 1,

00:15:57.540 when he marries Adam and Eve, one man, one woman, and tells them to have children, multiply, 0.76

00:16:03.180 have dominion over the earth.

00:16:04.540 Our earthly union in marriage is reflective of the eternal marriage between Christ and

00:16:09.640 his bride, the church, as we read in Ephesians 5.

00:16:12.080 That's how important it is.

00:16:13.260 That's how beautiful it is.

00:16:14.620 And that's not to say that only in marriage you can have satisfaction or obey God, but

00:16:19.560 that is the only context where you can have healthy sexuality and sexual relations.

00:16:25.560 Everywhere else in scripture, we read that we must flee sexual immorality, that we should 0.83

00:16:30.360 avoid it at all costs.

00:16:32.360 We should run away from it like Joseph ran away from Potiphar's wife. 0.61

00:16:36.520 Jesus actually says that it's better to pluck out your eye.

00:16:39.800 It is better to pluck out your eye than to lust after a woman who is not your wife. 0.79

00:16:45.440 First Corinthians 6, 18 through 20 really sums this up.

00:16:48.940 It says, flee from sexual immorality.

00:16:50.740 Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person

00:16:55.760 sins against his own body.

00:16:57.760 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have

00:17:01.800 have from God. You are not your own for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

00:17:09.100 This Christian idea of the body as sacred is seen throughout scripture. Yes, that we are made

00:17:15.360 bodily by God in his image, but then also that we have a savior that came to earth bodily,

00:17:24.040 that he is Emmanuel, God with us, that he became a human or he took on human form, that he rose

00:17:31.780 again bodily, that we are promised a resurrection of the bodies, that we will have not only

00:17:37.320 a paradise one day, but we will have a new heaven and a new earth. The physical,

00:17:43.180 the bodily really matters to the Lord who created us. It's the opposite message actually that we

00:17:49.820 hear from the world. And you'll hear from worldly people that it's actually Christianity that

00:17:55.420 denigrates pleasure or denigrates the body. No, no, no. We have such a sacred view of the body.

00:18:00.580 It's the world that thinks that the body is just an object to be commercialized, to be sold,

00:18:06.240 to be lusted after, to simply make money off of. This guy, Ravinsky, just like all of us,

00:18:16.640 He must stand before the Lord.

00:18:18.740 He must stand before the judgment seat of God and give an account for promoting these things.

00:18:23.240 And unless he repented before death, he will pay for his sins forever and ever.

00:18:28.180 I mean, it is really clear throughout scripture that it is no small thing to tempt people,

00:18:32.880 especially Christians, to sin. 1.00

00:18:34.940 I think of Jesus's words in Matthew 18, 6,

00:18:37.460 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,

00:18:42.120 it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be 0.92

00:18:46.740 drowned in the depth of the sea. Jesus said that would be a better fate. Think about how awful that

00:18:51.600 would be. I mean, that would be a terrible, terrible fate for anyone. And he said, no,

00:18:56.220 that's actually better. It's better that you do that or have that consequence than what is actually

00:19:02.000 coming for you if you are the source of temptation for the little ones who believe in Christ.

00:19:06.980 Wow, that's a really big deal.

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00:20:09.280 someone else who is in another industry entirely, but is very similar, as I'll explain. We've got

00:20:14.600 Kermit Gosnell. He is the Philadelphia abortion provider. You probably remember him. He is well

00:20:19.960 known now for killing thousands of babies, both in and outside of the womb. He killed mostly babies 0.99

00:20:25.620 inside the womb, but also outside of the womb. He has now died in prison at the age of 85.

00:20:31.540 Sources estimate that 15,000 abortions were carried out over his 31-year career. 15,000

00:20:38.600 babies. He was convicted in 2013 on several counts of murder that included the killing of three

00:20:44.200 infants after they were born, late-term abortions that were illegal, and then the death of a mother

00:20:49.540 during an abortion procedure, which he botched. I mean, it's not really that surprising that he

00:20:55.000 wasn't a great medical provider. He didn't really care about the sanctity of life or the protection

00:20:58.840 of his patients. Prosecutors in the case were able to prove that babies were born alive.

00:21:04.220 I'm just warning you, this is really hard to listen to. During illegal late-term procedures,

00:21:08.220 These infants were then killed after birth by severing their spinal cords with scissors.

00:21:14.180 Staff testified this was routine and even had a nickname called snipping.

00:21:18.560 That's according to the Associated Press.

00:21:20.460 The grand jury also described how babies would be moving, breathing, making sounds after delivery.

00:21:27.060 One infant reportedly was left alive for an hour before being killed.

00:21:32.620 And these are just stories from one person.

00:21:34.600 I testified before Congress back in 2019 in favor of Trump's pro-life measures that his administration had been taking the first time around.

00:21:44.900 And I told story after story of how pro-abortion law had led to not only the mistreatment of children inside the womb, but mistreatment of their mothers and the abuse and the slaughter of babies outside the womb.

00:22:00.660 I told the story of this nurse named Jill Stenak who found this little 22-week-old baby who had

00:22:07.140 just been aborted alive and dying in a supply closet. And he had been aborted because he had

00:22:14.580 Down syndrome. Y'all, I don't even think we understand how often this stuff happens. This

00:22:20.220 guy just happened to be caught. Investigators found that his facility was filled with bags

00:22:26.860 and bottles of babies and jars of body parts. He cracked jokes, according to the grand jury,

00:22:33.360 about babies whose necks he had just slit. That's according to the New York Post. And so

00:22:37.760 not because of the abortions that he committed, but because of the murder of the babies outside

00:22:44.420 of the womb, because of his negligence toward the mother, he was serving three consecutive

00:22:48.540 life sentences without the possibility of parole. I saw a user on X that he posted that at the

00:22:56.780 time the media refused to cover this. And there is this picture that I guess was going around

00:23:02.300 reported at the time of the press pool at Gosnell's trial. You can see it right there

00:23:07.840 and how few reporters showed up. They didn't want to cover it because they don't want to show people

00:23:13.460 the reality of the abortion industry, the injustice, the brutality, the violence that

00:23:19.680 always goes on in abortion. Okay. Remember that this guy operated legally for years and he was

00:23:25.840 enabled to do that because of pro-abortion law. Because, of course, if you don't care about

00:23:31.840 killing a baby at 20 weeks, why morally would you care about killing a baby who's a little bit

00:23:36.520 bigger, a little bit more developed? I mean, really, time, size? We expect those to be good

00:23:44.600 arbiters or good determinants of someone's morality. We expect those things to have the 0.89

00:23:50.400 power to place moral limits on a person that's okay with murdering a helpless child? Of course

00:23:56.180 not. And it also just goes to show how we don't have a good sense of consistent morality in the

00:24:03.060 United States or maybe really anywhere that it's an illegal atrocity to kill babies minutes after

00:24:10.780 they're born, but not minutes before that? Not months before that? Really, we're going to allow

00:24:16.900 time and size and location to determine whether or not a human is worth living, whether or not a

00:24:23.500 human is really a person. Not me. Not me. I'm not willing to do that. That's way too arbitrary.

00:24:28.800 That's trusting in myself way too much. I think the safest place that I can start is believing

00:24:33.940 that all people are people from the moment of conception. And to just be on the safe side,

00:24:38.780 I'm going to advocate for protecting them and not murdering them, no matter their size, age,

00:24:43.640 or location. So he made his money. He made his fame. Exploiting women, convincing women, 0.98

00:24:53.820 again, that this is not that big of a deal, that this is not really a baby. Exploiting their 0.56

00:24:58.780 bodies, harming their bodies, and then killing the children. And in some ways, like this is 0.97

00:25:05.240 always the logical outcome of a culture that not only degrades baby life, but degrades a woman's 1.00

00:25:11.440 body degrades. Sex is something that is not sacred. I mean, self-worship, the worship of the 0.97

00:25:18.320 self, the worship of sex is always going to lead to child sacrifice. And so these people really go

00:25:24.120 hand in hand. And obviously both of them have now met their maker and met their creator.

00:25:30.580 And unless there was repentance before they died, there will be eternal judgment. We've got some

00:25:37.080 verses on that that show us really clearly revelation 21 8 but as for the cowardly the 0.97

00:25:42.880 faithless the detestable as for murderers the sexually immoral sorcerers idolaters and all 0.69

00:25:48.440 liars their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur which is the second death 0.97

00:25:53.640 galatians 6 7 through 8 do not be deceived god is not mocked for whatever one sows that he will

00:26:00.500 also reap for the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption but the one

00:26:07.000 who sows to the spirit will from the spirit reap eternal life. Nahum 1.3, the Lord is slow to anger

00:26:14.700 and great in power, and the Lord will by no means clear the guilty. Okay, so the Lord cares about

00:26:20.680 sin. He cares about the shedding of the innocent blood. He cares that his people are avenged.

00:26:26.420 He cares enough to do something about evil, and Jesus is coming back and will take care of all of

00:26:31.680 it. But in the meantime, there is punishment for those who die in sin, for those who die

00:26:39.840 without repentance. Now, the radical news is also that if these two people on their deathbed

00:26:45.580 put their faith in Christ, if Christ saved them before they died, no matter what they've ever

00:26:50.800 done, they are in heaven right now. Like they are in fellowship with the saints and the members of

00:26:55.620 the household of God. They have been completely forgiven. And it's that message that is very

00:27:00.440 confusing for people that yes, Jesus even took the punishment for them upon the cross. If by grace

00:27:06.520 through faith, they have been saved. And we don't know that. I can actually hope that because the

00:27:12.500 reality is if we read some of those verses, like in Revelation, it's not just the sexually immoral.

00:27:18.120 It's not just the pornographer. It's not just the abortionist. It's not just the murder. It's

00:27:22.520 the cowardly. I've been cowardly. It's the faithless. I've been faithless. It's the idolater. 0.73

00:27:30.980 I've probably idolized something that I shouldn't have. Their portion will be in the lake that burns

00:27:36.340 with fire and sulfur. So if I want grace for me and I want grace for the people I know, then gosh,

00:27:42.540 grace has to be big enough to also cover these detestable people that we've talked about today.

00:27:47.500 That is the radical message of the gospel.

00:27:50.820 I think of the thief on the cross in Luke 23, verses 42 through 43.

00:27:56.060 And the thief on the cross said, Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.

00:27:59.900 And Jesus said to him, truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

00:28:05.240 Paul says, who of course persecuted Christians, murdered Christians, approved of the execution 0.97

00:28:09.460 of Christians before, when he was Saul, before he became Paul, 1 Timothy 1, 15 through 16.

00:28:14.980 He says, the saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance that Christ Jesus came into

00:28:19.500 the world to save sinners of whom I am the foremost, but I received mercy for this reason

00:28:24.200 that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to

00:28:30.040 those who were to believe in him for eternal life. First John 1, 9 says, it's so simple. If we confess

00:28:35.920 our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness,

00:28:41.540 all unrighteousness. So I hope that's a comfort to you. Probably none of you hopefully fit into

00:28:47.460 the category of the two men that we talked about today. But some of you might be feeling like you're

00:28:52.080 too far off, like you've done too much, like you've gone too far. Like, you know, it hasn't

00:28:57.680 been a straight line from A to B that you were a Christian, you wandered off, and now you're 0.87

00:29:02.000 wondering if God can accept you back. And look, God's grace is big enough. He's big enough for

00:29:07.160 all of it. And he has the power to help you repent and to not be a slave to sin anymore.

00:29:13.080 The gospel is for you too. And I'm just so thankful. I'm thankful for God's judgment.

00:29:18.280 People are very uncomfortable with the reality of hell and eternal punishment. And then you read

00:29:23.000 about people like this and you're like, okay, well, I'm glad that the bad guy gets his comeuppance

00:29:26.940 at some point. But also I'm so thankful for the gospel that his grace also applies to me through

00:29:33.520 faith as much as it can apply to anyone else who puts their faith in him. All right. Uh, we got

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00:30:55.040 slash Allie. Okay, y'all, we've got some lifestyle pitter patter.

00:31:12.600 All right. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Love is Blind, it is this show where singles

00:31:18.480 date one another in pods, these soundproof rooms where contestants can hear one another.

00:31:24.840 they can't hear what's outside of them, and they cannot see each other. Okay, so they can only get

00:31:29.280 to know each other through conversation. Participants can only see each other after

00:31:33.640 a proposal. Now, not everything is a marriage proposal, I don't think. I only watched one

00:31:38.260 season, but not everyone gets married at the end. But the show follows their lives together up until

00:31:42.720 the altar when the contestants finally decide whether or not to get married. And people are

00:31:47.700 talking about this season in particular for a couple reasons. One, because of how one couple

00:31:52.220 talks about kids one contestant and how the sister really just kind of like doesn't like kids and 0.96

00:31:58.500 talks about kids as if they're burdens but then on the other side of it you've got this like very

00:32:02.520 christian stable seeming couple that is sharing like this really sweet testimony so first i want

00:32:08.420 to talk about these viral clips that are going around of this one contestant emma talking about

00:32:14.840 how she feels about having kids here's thought three i definitely want kids it's like okay we've

00:32:20.500 We've done so much together in our married life now,

00:32:23.380 let's put that love into a little baby.

00:32:25.780 I want to find the right partner,

00:32:28.500 but kids change the whole dynamic.

00:32:31.560 Yeah, listen, I know I want kids, right?

00:32:33.840 Yeah.

00:32:34.680 But it doesn't necessarily mean

00:32:35.680 that I need to have them right away.

00:32:37.640 I am not a 100% yes, but I'm not a no.

00:32:43.300 I know a lot of people really want kids,

00:32:46.080 but for me, I don't know yet.

00:32:49.100 I appreciate you being super honest with me about it.

00:32:51.960 Thank you.

00:32:53.020 I'm adopted.

00:32:54.500 I do not know my birth family or if they are going to pass down any medical problems.

00:32:59.960 That scares me about having a child.

00:33:02.980 Okay, so she doesn't know if she's going to pass down any health problems that she has from her biological parents. 0.58

00:33:09.920 Now, there are some people out there who would say, oh, that's totally legitimate reason to not have kids.

00:33:14.840 I don't think that's a legitimate reason to not have kids.

00:33:17.060 We live in a fallen world. I'm not saying that disease is a good thing or a fun thing,

00:33:21.860 but our kids are going to get sick. They are going to always potentially have something wrong with

00:33:28.080 them. We are not promised, um, perfect progeny. Like we are not promised a perfect health for

00:33:35.480 ourselves or for our children. And yet we are still called, I think to the selflessness of

00:33:41.520 having children if you are married and able to have children. She also talks about precancerous

00:33:47.760 birthmarks that she had removed to prevent melanoma. She didn't know how that health would

00:33:51.820 affect her having children. I understand that concern a little bit more. It seems to me like

00:33:57.660 this perspective, however, on having children is really more about, as she said at the beginning,

00:34:02.520 changing the dynamic of marriage. It is true that children changes the dynamic of marriage, but

00:34:07.480 like in a really beautiful way. Not saying it's not hard. It is difficult. Like sleeping less is

00:34:12.860 just difficult. Having another person to care for and think about is difficult. Your schedule

00:34:17.600 changes, your priorities change, your energy level changes, but this is part of what's being human.

00:34:23.220 We're so used to all of these automated things, removing the friction of inconvenience in our

00:34:29.040 lives that I think that we believe that we are entitled to a convenience filled life. And that's

00:34:35.880 just not true. And also unending and unconditional convenience in every area of life doesn't make

00:34:42.900 you a better person. It's actually like the pain from stretching metaphorically that I think makes

00:34:47.760 you better. And then also children are just awesome. There's something very joyful and

00:34:51.560 fulfilling about having kids to love and to care for. But this really is a sticking point for this

00:34:59.420 couple as they go back and forth about whether or not she wants kids. You can see from the very

00:35:04.800 beginning this is really important to him and she really doesn't know and then they go to their um

00:35:12.140 they visit her family so i guess they like each other in a lot of other ways but then they talk

00:35:18.600 to the sister and then the sister has this to say about children stop for i'm somebody who grew up

00:35:24.980 my whole life wanting to be a mom and i have two kids and i wake up some days and i'm like why did

00:35:29.000 I like this is the part you told them that and my rebuttal to that is do you regret it

00:35:36.320 and she said no and I said then that's all you need I would say though if I lived another life

00:35:43.300 like I don't regret having my children and I love my children but if I got to the end of my life and

00:35:48.240 they said you can do it again I wouldn't have kids okay because there's there's a beautiful

00:35:53.200 thing about living a life for yourself too sure so my concern is as somebody who wanted this and

00:35:58.920 is currently living it and knows how hard it is. If somebody chooses to have kids simply because

00:36:04.640 they're trying to make a partner happy, that's one of the most terrifying thoughts. And especially

00:36:09.180 for Emma, like I love her to death. And I would not be able to live with myself if I didn't say

00:36:13.780 that. Oh my goodness. What a horrible thing to say about your own children. I feel the exact

00:36:20.260 opposite. You know, there are times when you start thinking about maybe a mistake that you made or

00:36:24.380 something that you wish that you had done differently. And you think about if someone

00:36:29.320 offered you to go all the way back to when you were 22, so you could right those wrongs or you

00:36:33.900 could make a different decision that you think would lead to better outcomes and how tempting

00:36:38.760 that is. Obviously that's not possible, but the thing I always think about when I consider, okay,

00:36:45.100 would I want to go back and make a different choice from the obviously bad choice that I made

00:36:50.260 in some scenario, I'm always like, no, because I'm afraid that that new root would take me away

00:36:56.020 from my husband and my kids. Like there are so many different details that God orchestrates

00:37:00.800 in our lives that lead us to the people that we marry, that lead us to the kids that we have,

00:37:06.740 that even if I could go back and correct every single mistake that I've ever made, I wouldn't

00:37:11.460 do it if there was a potential chance that I wouldn't have the children and the husband that

00:37:16.440 I have. And so to not feel that sense of like gratitude and preciousness over the children

00:37:22.460 you've created, I think is really sad. And I think probably it is the sister that is really

00:37:27.780 influencing the other sister there. I mean, to see your sister say that, you know, she's not

00:37:34.000 really sure if she would choose to have your nieces and nephews again, you're scared of living

00:37:39.180 with that kind of regret. That just goes to show how important it is to have people around us who

00:37:44.340 affirm life, who love children, who love family. And I know we can't always control who is in our

00:37:49.840 family and the attitudes they have, but it's really important that we protect our hearts and

00:37:54.180 minds, the things that we are consuming, the conversations that we're having to protect

00:37:58.420 ourselves from bitterness towards kids or this wrong mentality that you are entitled to live

00:38:03.820 for yourself. You're not entitled to live for yourself. And like you will become a brat if you

00:38:09.080 do that. I'm not saying that you have to have kids not to live for yourself, but if you don't

00:38:14.340 commit yourself to some kind of self-sacrifice, if you don't purposely seek out sacrifice and

00:38:19.580 inconvenience, you will become a bad person. Okay? God made us to deny ourselves, to work,

00:38:26.660 to sacrifice, to do really difficult things beyond what we think we're physically and mentally

00:38:30.960 capable of for his glory and the good of other people. Children, a wonderful way to do that.

00:38:36.120 if God hasn't called you to that, there are other ways that you can sacrifice on behalf of those

00:38:41.540 who need it that are also glorious and beautiful and can sanctify you as a human being. So this

00:38:47.140 just self-centered mentality makes me sad. Dude, run, run, run, run. This is not the family you

00:38:54.000 want to marry into. This is not the person you want to marry. This is going to be something that

00:38:57.400 follows you for the rest of your life that you will always regret if you keep walking in this

00:39:02.580 direction. Okay. All right. Now let's talk about positive part of this, because there is a positive

00:39:08.660 couple here, um, that had a wonderful, uh, Christian testimony that I think is really sweet

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00:40:30.460 okay this just in i did not know this is how it concluded emma and mike did make it to the altar

00:40:38.980 and this is what happened emma i do i do love you

00:40:46.040 right now i'm not ready to say i do

00:40:52.300 i want kids and i want to know that you definitely 100 want to have a family with me

00:41:05.040 i don't want to say yes and jump into something and then it changed down the road and it's hard

00:41:11.500 because i you know i'm sorry okay i guess i can't take credit for giving mike advice and

00:41:21.960 him listening since this has already happened but good job mike that was the right decision i'm not

00:41:27.240 saying that emma is unmarriable or you know inherently bad maybe she'll make a different

00:41:32.320 decision i just it's not even only the kids thing it's just that self-centered mentality

00:41:36.640 that i think is not going to be good for anyone and i really hope that mike finds the woman for

00:41:43.840 him um a faith-filled woman first of all but then also a woman that he can raise kids with because

00:41:50.540 that is really important. Okay, let's talk about this other Christian couple. So in one of the

00:41:56.520 first dates between this couple, the guy, Vic, mentions that he wants a God-fearing woman. And

00:42:00.900 then the woman, Christine, ends one of their early dates with prayer. It's top seven.

00:42:06.700 Dear Heavenly Father, we come to you today in prayer and ask for continued love, patience,

00:42:14.440 and understanding and an eagerness to grow deeper. May we open our hearts and may we open our minds

00:42:22.440 throughout this unique journey as we further this walk towards a marriage. Amen. Amen. And amen and

00:42:30.460 amen. I literally wrote amen and amen. That was beautiful. That's sweet. I don't really know

00:42:38.040 anything else about them or, you know, their theology or anything like that, but I just think

00:42:42.200 that they that is a sweet moment that you don't typically see on tv they were also a favorite this

00:42:47.100 season there's this subreddit called love is blind on netflix i would never recommend you going on

00:42:52.500 the hellscape that is reddit but one user remarked that they are by far the best couple this season

00:42:58.160 and probably the best couple ever in love is blind that is high praise from reddit this couple was

00:43:03.080 one of the only um of one of the only couples to get married at the end of the season christine

00:43:10.460 explained that their shared faith was really what sealed the deal during an interview with

00:43:14.780 Kaylee McEnany. I was also on this episode with Kaylee McEnany and she was tossing to this segment

00:43:20.320 and I was so glad to get to watch this. So sweet, Sadi. We've had a lot of conversation about

00:43:24.920 covenant versus contract and, you know, and there is such a really true meaning behind that of when

00:43:30.800 you have that covenant and you have that foundation, it makes a world of difference

00:43:34.520 in the relationship. Like I've never felt so confident and so at peace and ease in a relationship,

00:43:39.320 let alone a marriage, which can be stressful and difficult, especially when it happens so quickly.

00:43:44.160 But God's been very, very present.

00:43:46.740 Okay, that's incredible.

00:43:49.120 I don't necessarily recommend finding your future husband or wife on a reality TV show

00:43:57.940 because so much gossip and innuendo and temptation and sensationalism typically can color the

00:44:06.580 relationship and it can make it really difficult to truly get to know someone, but God can work

00:44:11.160 through anything. And I love that he really like hoisted up a couple to hopefully be an example to

00:44:16.960 other people. And you never know who this is going to reach. Maybe someone out there is like,

00:44:21.220 I want what they have. I want that kind of joy and stability and peace that they seem to have.

00:44:26.460 So I'm just thankful for their example. Lots to learn today from our reality TV and lifestyle

00:44:34.020 pitter-patter. Now we are going to talk to my friend Lila Rose about what the Parliament

00:44:39.480 in UK just did to decriminalize abortion. All right. Last week, I was so disturbed to

00:44:50.880 see this news on X. On March 18th, last Wednesday, the House of Lords in the UK voted to decriminalize

00:44:57.860 abortion at any point in pregnancy all nine months here's a clip of that my lords have voted

00:45:05.580 contents 148 not contents 185 so the not contents have it okay so you can kind of hear the cheers

00:45:15.400 there and they have decided that it is legal through all nine months of pregnancy to allow

00:45:21.360 abortion in the uk and i want to bring on my good friend lila rose she is the founder and president

00:45:26.560 of live action to just kind of break this down for us. First, I just want to know exactly how

00:45:33.580 this can happen, considering that a very small percentage of people in the UK actually support

00:45:40.640 abortion through all nine months, and yet their representatives have just made this legal.

00:45:45.740 It's absolutely devastating, Allie. According to a recent poll, less than 1%, 1% of people in the UK

00:45:53.060 want abortion to be legal for all nine months. So how did this happen? Basically, the British 0.96

00:45:58.580 Parliament is supposed to represent the people. That's not what happened here. Last summer in an

00:46:03.180 omnibus bill, so there was a big bill that had to do with the police and had to do with

00:46:07.500 criminalization and crimes, and the pro-Bort activists in Parliament stuck in a decriminalization

00:46:13.580 statute that would legalize abortion through all nine months in the UK. Now, this got less than an

00:46:18.860 hour of debate last summer and it passed the British house of commons. And now last week,

00:46:23.120 it went to the British house of Lords and there was some more debate, but ultimately they kept

00:46:27.480 this provision in there, which ultimately means you can end the life of your baby up until the

00:46:32.520 moment of birth. And there's no criminal penalties for you. You can order an abortion pill via the

00:46:37.160 mail. You can take it at home. You can kill your 32 week old baby. This actually happened with a

00:46:41.740 woman doing this to her 32 week old baby. And there is zero liability. There is zero criminal

00:46:47.380 penalty for that. So it's a very dark day in the UK. And of course, the pro-life movement is

00:46:52.580 galvanized now saying we have to put a stop to this. This is not even the will of the British

00:46:56.000 people. Is it even possible for pro-lifers in the UK to put a stop to this? Or is it just the deal

00:47:03.220 is done? If they get enough members of parliament, they can reverse this. So it's a matter of

00:47:08.020 rallying the political power and support. There are pro-life members of parliament,

00:47:13.200 but the pro-life movement has been really, I think, thrown to the side over the last few

00:47:17.880 decades in the UK. They're not really a fighting force yet, but I think that can change if enough

00:47:23.960 people rise up and say, we're going to band together to ensure that children are protected

00:47:28.020 and families are prioritized. And I do think there's a growing unrest in the UK about how

00:47:33.260 the government is quite frankly, handling governance. This has to do in part with

00:47:37.100 the protection of women and girls in the state, in the countries from rape and from

00:47:41.360 attacks. It has to do with the lack of freedom of speech in the UK, where people are praying 0.61

00:47:46.800 outside abortion clinics or hospitals where abortions are happening, and they're thrown

00:47:50.480 into jail for that. You make a comment on social media that the government disapproves of, you go

00:47:54.420 to jail for that. So there is growing unrest in the UK about politics. And I think people of good

00:48:00.320 faith and goodwill, pro-life people, pro-family people need to build a fighting force like we

00:48:04.620 have here in the United States and believe that it's possible and with the right political will

00:48:09.160 make the change happen that needs to happen. Do you know who is a part of the abortion lobby

00:48:15.040 in the UK? I mean, I just think about who would have the motivation to try to sneak something

00:48:20.220 like this in without the support of the public. What kind of power do they have and who is

00:48:25.500 profiting off of a radical change like this? And you might not know the answer. I don't know the

00:48:29.880 answer, but I didn't know if you had any insight there. Well, I know a couple of things. There's

00:48:34.600 Marie Stokes International. It's basically their Planned Parenthood and they're very powerful.

00:48:38.060 They're very embedded with the U.K. health care system. I mean, it's very much health care is very much socialized.

00:48:45.660 So the government has its hands basically in all health care in the U.K.

00:48:49.220 And unfortunately, the health care system at large, I think, is basically hijacked by pro aborts. 1.00

00:48:54.540 And that's the case in most of the United States.

00:48:57.180 The difference is the health care bureaucrats in the United States or the heads of these health care associations are not necessarily calling all the shots for the government.

00:49:06.180 In the UK, those institutions are largely one and the same with the government. So you have pro-aborts leading those organizations. They can call shots for health care policy. And that's what actually happened here, Ali, is that they said that this is actually a health care policy now instead of a legal policy for abortion.

00:49:23.740 let the doctors decide abortion, these pro-abort doctors groups in the UK, instead of let the law

00:49:30.240 intervene to protect these children. I mean, imagine if ACOG, which is our pro-abort

00:49:34.820 association for obstetricians and gynecologists in the USA, was in charge of abortion law in the

00:49:40.300 USA. They would allow not just decriminalization, but outright legalizations of abortions through

00:49:45.760 all nine months in all 50 states. There obviously is a dissenting voice. Callum Miller, who's a

00:49:51.540 doctor and other doctors in the UK oppose abortion. We have dissenting voices in the United States,

00:49:56.320 but now those healthcare ideologues who are pro-aborts, they're not really healthcare,

00:50:00.740 it's pro-death, are now basically one and the same making decisions in the UK government.

00:50:05.460 I saw this professor from Georgetown saying that the US should learn positively from the UK's

00:50:10.740 example that our pro-abortion lobby here should shift from trying to legalize abortion through

00:50:15.880 all nine months to decriminalizing. Can you talk a little bit more, which you did just touch on

00:50:20.660 this, but can you talk a little bit more about the difference and if you think Planned Parenthood

00:50:25.300 at all are going to go in that direction? I mean, decriminalization and legalization is

00:50:31.820 really one and the same, right? The point of a law is you need to enforce it. If the law is not

00:50:35.980 enforced, what is the point of the law? It's not even a teacher anymore. The law can't even teach

00:50:39.640 right from wrong because people are willfully going out there and breaking it and there's zero

00:50:43.920 repercussions for them. And in the United States, I mean, practically, Ali, because of the abortion 0.92

00:50:48.520 pill, which is sent via mail in the United States, and there's no law that is being enforced to

00:50:53.780 prohibit it from going into pro-life states where abortion is banned, we effectively have abortion

00:50:58.620 legalized in the United States, effectively through all nine months of pregnancy, even in

00:51:02.500 pro-life states. Now, pro-life states have some recourse. They can ban surgical abortions or

00:51:06.620 abortion pills being sold by providers in that state. But if they're shipped in from a provider

00:51:12.020 outside of the state into a pro-life state, an abortion pill, the state has very little recourse.

00:51:17.920 This is one of the reasons in the U.S. we're calling on the Trump administration to take the abortion pill off the market, which they have the full power and the right to do. 0.84

00:51:25.860 And it would protect women and, of course, babies. 0.64

00:51:28.400 But the bottom line is decriminalization is basically the same as legalization.

00:51:31.900 And that's what we're already facing here in the U.S.

00:51:34.280 Yeah. And a lot of this falls on the shoulders of Republican attorneys general in these states who want to have the power to be able to go after these other states, which they can't sue the other states for shipping, you know, abortion pills or sue the providers in other states.

00:51:50.820 But there's only so much they can do, as you said, until the Trump administration, the HHS under RFK decides to do something about it and decides that this is a public health crisis, obviously a moral crisis as well.

00:52:03.600 And we need the Republicans to be willing to stand up and say, I represent pro-life constituents, Trump administration.

00:52:11.240 We need you to do something about that, which can be politically a little bit difficult.

00:52:16.200 But that's why we just we need courage.

00:52:17.920 It's really not about exactly who is in the White House.

00:52:21.520 It is about saving lives.

00:52:23.680 And it's not just the Democrats that we need to be holding accountable.

00:52:27.300 It's Republicans being willing to have enough courage to do the right thing.

00:52:31.760 You're exactly right, Allie.

00:52:33.360 And I think you do that so well on your show and in your advocacy.

00:52:36.600 I had a meeting with RFK, with Secretary Kennedy in January.

00:52:41.520 Yes.

00:52:41.880 And we sat together.

00:52:43.240 We discussed the abortion pill.

00:52:44.780 I mean, he agreed that it's alarming that the abortion pill lands one out of every 10

00:52:49.020 women with severe side effects, that one out of every 22 women land in the emergency room 1.00

00:52:54.920 because of the abortion pill, and it is the leading cause of death for children.

00:52:59.180 So 600,000 babies were murdered in the last reported year by the abortion pill.

00:53:03.800 And RFK expressed sympathy for this.

00:53:05.880 He expressed concern.

00:53:07.100 It's 100% his jurisdiction and power to take the pill off the market.

00:53:10.980 In fact, it's his job to take lethal drugs that are not helping people, that are hurting people, and prevent them from flooding our market, our American market.

00:53:19.060 So I'm hopeful he expressed interest in removing the pill if there was evidence that they could do their own study of to show its dangers.

00:53:27.240 He, of course, indicated President Trump makes the final call for the administration as the lead executive, of course.

00:53:32.740 But I think that anybody who has a voice on this, which is all of us, and certainly people in the administration, need to raise the alarm bell.

00:53:39.060 because this is an action that can be taken right now,

00:53:41.280 it would save hundreds of thousands of lives

00:53:44.020 in the United States to remove this pill from the market.

00:53:46.220 And US policy impacts UK policy.

00:53:48.840 A lot of these European countries

00:53:50.740 follow what the USA is doing.

00:53:53.020 If we're allowing these pills via mail,

00:53:55.120 they're gonna allow these pills via mail.

00:53:56.500 For the sake of our kids and the kids of Europe 0.99

00:53:58.720 and the kids of the whole world,

00:54:00.560 we need to be doing the right thing

00:54:01.860 and remove the abortion pill from the market.

00:54:03.820 Yeah, man, not everyone out there knows

00:54:06.120 what Lila and Live Action do behind closed doors.

00:54:09.380 Yes, she's got a public platform. 1.00

00:54:10.820 You see her on her podcast and things like that.

00:54:13.220 But there are so many conversations

00:54:14.660 I'm probably not even privy to,

00:54:16.420 only a few of them that Lila is having

00:54:18.460 with the highest ranking officials in this country

00:54:22.960 to try to save people's lives.

00:54:24.620 And I just think that's incredible.

00:54:26.260 Like all of us, we want these big guests on our show

00:54:28.640 and that's really important.

00:54:29.940 But you are in there primarily

00:54:31.800 to try to persuade these people to save lives.

00:54:34.500 And that, I think, is just what sets you apart when it comes to being an advocate, being an activist, is that's what you care about first and foremost.

00:54:41.380 So I'm just so grateful for that.

00:54:42.860 As soon as you were talking about meeting with RFK, I'm just like, praise God, that's who I want, representing the pro-life cause to those people in power.

00:54:50.260 And I think all of us, whether we call our representatives or whether you feel also called to pray, we can pray for that change of heart, that Lila's words, that they would continue to ring in his ears and to seep into his heart.

00:55:02.780 and that eventually the Holy Spirit would convict him to do the right thing.

00:55:06.520 So I just want to say thank you for that.

00:55:12.560 Quick pause to tell you about Legacy Box.

00:55:15.160 This is how you preserve your legacy.

00:55:16.920 If you've got a bunch of VHS tapes, or maybe your mom does,

00:55:20.020 or maybe your in-laws do, or Polaroids, or old pictures,

00:55:23.580 and they're just in boxes and boxes collecting dust,

00:55:26.720 and you're like, how are we going to move these?

00:55:28.460 How are we going to pass these down to our kids

00:55:30.260 and make sure that they are in good quality forever,

00:55:33.640 well, it would be a really good idea

00:55:35.040 to go ahead and digitize all of those hard copies

00:55:38.020 of those memories so you can ensure that you have them

00:55:41.020 and you can pass them down forever.

00:55:43.080 You just get your box from Legacy Box.

00:55:45.440 It's a big cardboard box.

00:55:46.640 You send all of your pictures and your videos there.

00:55:49.680 You send it to them.

00:55:50.720 They digitize it in files.

00:55:52.400 They send that back to you.

00:55:53.460 They send the hard copies back to you.

00:55:55.080 And then there you go.

00:55:56.420 You've got these memories preserved digitally forever.

00:55:59.520 This is an amazing Mother's Day gift, y'all.

00:56:01.940 An amazing gift for your mom, your wife, your mother-in-law, your grandmother.

00:56:07.140 What an incredible gift to them that they will then just be able to rest assured that

00:56:11.920 all of their memories that they have tried so hard to preserve really will be passed

00:56:16.100 down forever.

00:56:17.220 Go to LegacyBox.com slash Allie and you will get a discount.

00:56:22.620 LegacyBox.com slash Allie.

00:56:28.780 Can you talk a little bit more about Baby Olivia? Because I saw that you posed, 0.53

00:56:34.400 was it North Dakota? Yes. So now we're in seven states. Baby Olivia is this lifelike,

00:56:42.640 medically accurate animation of human development from its earliest beginnings,

00:56:47.160 single cell embryo up until birth. And it just was signed into law in the seventh state

00:56:52.260 in the United States to be put into public school curriculum. So now, depending on the state,

00:56:57.340 Sometimes it's high school, it'll be junior high, it'll be as young as kindergarten.

00:57:01.160 And we're very excited about this.

00:57:02.860 Our goal is to have this be seen by every student in America, because there's no better

00:57:07.180 way to develop a sense of reverence and really just respect for life when you actually get

00:57:14.260 to learn about how human life develops.

00:57:16.600 So we're thrilled about it.

00:57:17.780 And it's being considered, I think, in 20 other states now across the country.

00:57:22.400 Praise God.

00:57:22.920 That is amazing.

00:57:23.680 And if people want to support that, if they want to see the advancement of that kind of

00:57:27.960 legislation in their own state, what can they do?

00:57:30.640 They can 100% spread awareness about baby Olivia.

00:57:34.960 You can go to liveaction.org.

00:57:36.420 There's a drop down menu.

00:57:37.540 You can share that with your friends.

00:57:38.880 The more it's out there, the more people see it, the more you can be an educator to help

00:57:41.740 people know the truth of the beauty of human life.

00:57:44.220 We've seen that 10% of pro-choice women when they see baby Olivia say that they now support

00:57:50.360 abortion restrictions and support pro-life laws.

00:57:53.680 So this is 100% has an impact on changing hearts and minds on abortion, even though it doesn't

00:57:58.160 mention abortion in all the videos about human development. But you can also support our

00:58:01.960 legislative efforts at Live Action. You can go to liveaction.org. You can support us financially

00:58:06.100 to support what we're doing with lawmakers. And you can pray. Like you said, Ali, 100% it's a

00:58:11.980 spiritual battle. You know, Secretary Kennedy, President Trump, they need our prayers, prayers

00:58:16.620 to do the right thing, prayers for courage. We need to pray for an end to abortion. We need to 0.84

00:58:20.440 Pray for the closing of the abortion industry.

00:58:22.360 Pray for mothers and families.

00:58:23.920 And I believe if we as people of God pray, we're courageous in speaking out, and we get

00:58:28.100 out there and take action, we can end abortion. 0.86

00:58:30.320 It's really a matter of time because God is the author of the fight, and we get to be

00:58:35.540 a part of his work.

00:58:36.360 Amen.

00:58:37.100 Okay, I want to ask you one last thing because I saw this clip circulating, and I thought

00:58:41.320 you'd be the perfect person to talk about it.

00:58:43.300 So we have so many people in the country who support the pro-life cause.

00:58:47.480 once you really understand what abortion is, what human development is, it can be kind of simple to

00:58:52.640 move people over to the pro-life side. One thing I think that we are still fighting is to educate

00:58:57.940 people on the reality of IVF. People think IVF simply means pro-baby. And of course, we love

00:59:04.240 babies. We want more babies to be born. But obviously, it is much more ethically and morally

00:59:09.860 complex than that. And I saw this story. I don't know if you saw it circulating,

00:59:13.360 but it's about Duke basketball twins.

00:59:16.240 Their names are Cameron and Caden Boozer.

00:59:18.040 They were conceived through IVF

00:59:19.580 by former NBA player Carlos Boozer and his wife, Cece.

00:59:23.800 And the reason they did this

00:59:25.660 is because their older son, Carmani,

00:59:28.220 had sickle cell disease.

00:59:30.080 So both parents carried this trait

00:59:32.260 and so they wanted to be able to find a bone marrow match

00:59:36.340 within the embryos for their older son

00:59:38.940 so that he could have a bone marrow transplant

00:59:41.300 and to make sure that their future children did not have sickle cell disease.

00:59:45.760 And so they ended up creating and screening, I think, like a dozen embryos, 10 passed the

00:59:52.380 test.

00:59:52.940 They ultimately chose to implant only two that were disease-free and a genetic match.

00:59:57.800 And of course, now we have these Duke basketball twins, Cameron and Caden.

01:00:01.780 So that is some of this context.

01:00:03.700 Let me play this quick clip, and then I'll get you to response that too.

01:00:07.780 Doctors harvested 34 eggs from CeCe.

01:00:12.460 Ten became fertilized, sickle cell-free embryos.

01:00:17.760 And among those...

01:00:19.660 Only two matched.

01:00:21.320 Only two.

01:00:21.940 Only two were completely healthy and were an identical match for my son's transplant.

01:00:28.220 So when they tell you that, what do you think?

01:00:30.820 We got it.

01:00:32.160 Jackpot.

01:00:32.660 okay so a lot of people watching this they're like that is incredible they wanted to save their

01:00:38.800 older son's life and they used science to be able to do that and to now create these two

01:00:45.460 talented basketball players but what are we missing we're missing the 10 other it sounds

01:00:51.780 like at least eight but likely 10 other children human lives science is clear this is a unique

01:00:57.980 individual human life. When you create that life in the, in the IVF clinic, this is a new embryo

01:01:03.660 and they decided they weren't good enough. And so they killed them. Yeah. That's the part of

01:01:08.340 the story that, you know, with the beautiful music playing and this beautiful, like warmly

01:01:11.960 lit interview was completely left out. There's 10 other kids whose lives were created and then

01:01:18.140 taken after they were screened and deemed not good enough. And that is barbaric alley. That is why

01:01:24.080 we raise the alarm bell about IVF because every life created via IVF is 100% valued, purposed,

01:01:32.200 beautiful, a gift made in God's image. That's why IVF is so destructive because in the process of

01:01:37.400 IVF for every one live birth embryo, you're talking usually 10 others that are destroyed

01:01:42.520 because you're trying to achieve that one live birth. And so you just recreate lives,

01:01:47.380 you grade them, and then you destroy them. So we love life. That's why we oppose IVF.

01:01:52.340 Yeah, people don't realize that there are actually more unique lives that are tossed out, killed every year via IVF than in the abortion industry. And so we're just trying to plea for consistency that if a life is a life, no matter how small, no matter what he or she looks like, no matter the level of sentience, then that not only applies to inside the womb, but also outside of the womb.

01:02:14.860 So it's this kind of sensitive issue that I think Christians are called to be as clear and courageous on as possible for the same reasons that we're clear and courageous on abortion.

01:02:24.740 Thank you so much for your clarity and courage, Lila.

01:02:27.500 Just remind everyone where they can find your show.

01:02:30.440 Thank you, Allie.

01:02:31.420 I'm so grateful for yours.

01:02:32.680 You're such an incredibly important voice, and I'm always grateful when I hear you speaking out on these issues.

01:02:37.040 You can go check out liveaction.org.

01:02:39.480 We have a lot of resources there, and we just hope that everyone joins the pro-life fight.

01:02:42.780 We're all part of it.

01:02:43.540 And certainly as Christians, we're called to be voices for God's children.

01:02:46.740 Yes.

01:02:47.080 And everyone check out The Lila Rose Show, which is on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, all that

01:02:51.040 good stuff.

01:02:52.000 Thank you, Allie.

01:02:52.780 Thank you.

01:02:53.240 Great to see you.

01:02:58.960 Thank you so much for listening to today's episode of Relatable, and we will be back

01:03:03.100 here on Friday.

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