Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1336 ｜ Trump Reads the Bible to America, Why Swalwell’s Sketchy Resignation Matters, & Finland is Officially Gone

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00:02:06.600 buddy thanks so much for joining me um okay tell me about america reached the bible

00:02:20.700 ali we're having an ezra moment just like the israelites were needed to be reminded of who

00:02:27.420 they were and their national identity um ezra stood up with the scroll and he read the books

00:02:32.960 of Moses and reminded them of the call of God on their life, the law of God.

00:02:38.040 We're doing a similar exercise here in Washington, D.C., as almost 500 of our national leaders

00:02:44.780 from all spheres of influence, all demographics and denominations, humble themselves in front

00:02:49.660 of the American people and remind them that we need the Bible and scripture specifically

00:02:55.660 for our 250th birthday of America.

00:02:58.120 It is really an epic moment for seven full days, 84 hours from the Museum of the Bible.

00:03:04.920 Wow, it's been amazing.

00:03:07.320 Yeah, so this comes out on Wednesday.

00:03:09.540 So this morning, I got to read from the Book of Esther.

00:03:11.940 I got to read Chapter 2, and then part of Chapter 3, which was such an honor and so

00:03:16.640 cool for me to go back and just re-study that myself, but then also to get to read it to

00:03:21.620 the country.

00:03:22.700 And President Trump was also a part of this.

00:03:24.820 Yesterday evening, he read from, was it 2 Chronicles?

00:03:28.540 Yes, he read 2 Chronicles 7, verses 11 through 22.

00:03:33.620 It's the first time in our history that a president has read an uncensored full length

00:03:40.400 of scripture, two and a half minutes from the Oval Office.

00:03:44.200 Really amazing that he would be willing to read this passage that we all have been praying

00:03:49.900 for like 50 years of National Days of Prayer.

00:03:53.440 Really, it's global prayer.

00:03:55.880 God spoke through to Solomon in a very turbulent time in Israel's history and said,

00:04:01.900 If my people that are called by my name would humble themselves and pray and seek my face,

00:04:06.560 turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven.

00:04:10.640 I will forgive their sins and heal their land.

00:04:13.820 So for the president, we've been praying for the president to potentially read this for

00:04:17.360 over a year.

00:04:18.480 We've had a little group of prayer warriors praying that he would be willing to do it.

00:04:23.440 And knowing him and knowing how authentic and real he is, whether we agree with him

00:04:28.600 every minute or not on the things that he does, I've been praying that he wouldn't

00:04:33.960 read it if it wasn't real to him.

00:04:35.840 And I think it's a real important moment for our country because he's mixed in with

00:04:42.460 normal Americans.

00:04:44.160 My friend Jason Hershey, who's led prayer and worship from David's tent in the National Mall, read right before the president.

00:04:53.140 And then Ben Carson and Candy Carson right after it.

00:04:56.900 And then our friend Heidi St. John from the West Coast.

00:05:00.260 So we're just mixing the president here as a person that, you know, a created being.

00:05:05.740 We're all American citizens, whether we're rich, poor, powerful, not powerful.

00:05:11.220 So, you know, it's just a kind of a beautiful picture of what God does.

00:05:15.780 He's the equalizer and he brings us all into his kingdom.

00:05:20.480 Yeah, gosh, that's absolutely true.

00:05:22.640 What an incredibly audacious goal to get 500 different people, as you said, some of the

00:05:27.320 most powerful people in the world, like President Trump, and then everyday people, if that's

00:05:32.180 how you want to describe them.

00:05:35.040 But of course, same value and same importance to God, which is part of what you're talking

00:05:39.260 about.

00:05:39.500 But how in the world did you reach all of these 500 people and get them to agree to

00:05:46.880 read part of the Bible?

00:05:48.780 Well, we started, Allie, last February.

00:05:51.200 I counted, I did about 200 Zoom meetings with ministry leaders across the country.

00:05:56.060 We strategically reached out to Bible-believing ministries across the country that we felt

00:06:01.640 we wanted to partner with on this.

00:06:04.280 A John 17 moment across denominations.

00:06:07.320 we were strategic to reach out to all 50 states. I think we're almost to all 50 states being

00:06:12.160 represented, but we have 122 national ministries signed on to participate. They not only blessed

00:06:19.680 us financially to help us do this event, but also signed marketing agreements to help us push this

00:06:24.580 out. So really a real moment of unity. And then we had about 20 hours of the Bible that we saved

00:06:31.040 for elected officials and celebrities. So we had to start the whole process again, reaching out to

00:06:36.080 agents and managers and staffers to work on getting all of these people signed on.

00:06:41.980 It has been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.

00:06:44.740 Our team would tell you it's the hardest thing any of us have ever done.

00:06:48.740 But as we're living out this week right now, seeing the presence of God filling our capital,

00:06:53.300 filling the music of the Bible, and seeing the response online with hundreds of thousands

00:06:57.600 of people accessing the live stream at any one time, just to hear the spoken word, it's

00:07:02.700 all been worth it.

00:07:03.960 It has all been worth it.

00:07:05.720 Amen. And tell me how people can watch.

00:07:10.040 We're so thrilled. Great American Pure Flix is streaming this and producing it for free.

00:07:16.660 So just go to americareadsthebible.com and you can access the live stream at any time,

00:07:23.220 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. We're going all the way through Saturday night at 9 p.m.

00:07:29.760 Franklin Graham will do the gospel presentation at the end of the book of Revelation.

00:07:33.860 and we've got amazing worship leaders that are here throughout the week, filling in prayer and

00:07:40.060 worship at the end of each hour. But play it in your living room, play it in your business,

00:07:44.240 play it in your churches, play it in your universities. I really believe that God is

00:07:50.800 moving a momentum here that we will treasure his word above every other voice. It's a powerful

00:07:57.640 moment and we're just honored to be a part of it. Thank you. And just so people know for sure,

00:08:02.540 start date and end date.

00:08:04.100 Like, can they access right now and watch it?

00:08:06.640 Yes, it started April 18 with our opening celebration

00:08:09.960 that you can go back and watch.

00:08:12.000 That was just a powerful night.

00:08:13.880 And it goes all the way through Saturday night,

00:08:15.980 9 p.m. Eastern time as we end the book of Revelation

00:08:19.180 and have Franklin Graham give the gospel.

00:08:23.240 So good.

00:08:24.180 Well, thank you so much, Bunny.

00:08:25.640 And God bless you and this incredible,

00:08:28.360 incredible Holy Spirit empowered endeavor.

00:08:30.880 It was an honor for me to get to be a part of it.

00:08:32.960 So thank you so much.

00:08:34.000 Thank you, Allie.

00:08:34.700 We're so blessed to have you a part.

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00:09:52.920 well good morning or afternoon whenever you're listening or watching this uh don't usually see

00:10:02.420 me in the middle of the week but Allie Beth is in Washington DC and she is part of the 500 people

00:10:10.140 that are reading through the bible which is something that uh our friend Bunny Pounds and

00:10:15.400 her organization is doing and she'll be doing some reading so you can probably go back and

00:10:20.360 find that somewhere online if you want to watch that she asked me to step in for her today

00:10:24.140 and we're gonna have a great show it's going to be a lot of good first thing I want to remind you

00:10:28.720 of though is don't forget to get your tickets to share the arrows coming up in October it's gonna

00:10:32.920 be another great event you know last year she had 7,000 women sold out the arena and it was a lot of

00:10:40.020 fun I was able to listen in on a part of it and just did a great job and I know they've got some

00:10:45.180 great speakers and great entertainment coming so hopefully that you already have your tickets if

00:10:49.400 not, please get your tickets to share the air. Look at some of the speakers. If you're watching

00:10:52.800 this, you can see some of the speakers on the screen right now. I mean, it's just going to be

00:10:56.240 awesome. And the singing people. It's so funny. Allie and I ran into one of the Shane and Shanes

00:11:02.600 at the airport a couple of weeks ago when I was with her flying to go to a speech. And just super

00:11:08.860 nice people. You're going to really love them. I'm sure that a lot of you already know who they are.

00:11:12.680 So anyway, make sure you get your tickets to that. We're going to talk about two or three things.

00:11:16.700 And then at the end, there's going to be a video that you're not going to want to miss that Allie did an interview with a Finnish woman that has been persecuted pretty severely, in my opinion, for her faith.

00:11:29.340 And you're not going to want to miss that.

00:11:30.660 But first of all, we want to just a little bit of an update on a few things that are going on.

00:11:34.100 In fact, as we're recording this, the vote in Virginia to redistrict, meaning to redraw the geographical lines on where their congressional districts are, is taking place.

00:11:50.900 As you know, Virginia has a Democrat governor and a Democrat-controlled legislature.

00:11:57.320 So what they've done is they have passed a bill.

00:12:02.140 Now, we're not even sure that bill is going to pass constitutional muster.

00:12:06.140 It'll be challenged in court.

00:12:08.500 But right now, they've passed a bill to redraw the districts.

00:12:13.240 And it would essentially go from, I think they have six Democrats and five Republicans for their congressional delegation.

00:12:20.680 It would go to 10 Democrats, 10 Democrat districts and one Republican district.

00:12:25.740 So talk about gerrymandering.

00:12:27.920 You know, remember I explained to you where the word came from.

00:12:30.780 came from a congressman, I believe it was in Rhode Island, who originally drew a district

00:12:37.180 that looked like a salamander, you know, kind of a squiggly line to get all his right voters

00:12:42.760 in his district. And they ended up calling his last name was Jerry. So they called it gerrymandering.

00:12:47.740 But redistricting happens generally every 10 years after the census taken place. And that's

00:12:53.980 what most states do. And they adhere to this. Now, the challenge with using the census as it

00:12:59.960 works today and this is why blue states want so many illegal aliens to be in to be in their states 0.55

00:13:07.720 because when you're looking at the census it doesn't ask the question are you a citizen

00:13:14.620 and therefore they just count numbers so if there's a whole lot of illegal aliens in southern

00:13:21.960 california and they're doing a census they'll count those people all right in the census and

00:13:28.380 the population amounts in the census determines how many congressional seats each state gets,

00:13:34.860 you know, because it's based on population in the House of Representatives.

00:13:38.540 In the Senate, it doesn't matter because every state has two senators.

00:13:41.860 But in the House of Representatives, it's based on population. 0.81

00:13:45.940 That's one of the main reasons that Democrats want to have an open border.

00:13:49.220 So don't ever forget that.

00:13:50.580 All right.

00:13:50.840 Please make sure that you're remembering that.

00:13:52.740 We tried to change it.

00:13:54.080 I think the Supreme Court a few years ago did not allow us to include the citizenship question on the census.

00:14:02.740 I could be wrong on that. And some of you listening, if I am wrong on that, you can email email us back to correct me on that.

00:14:09.000 But anyway, Virginia is going through that. They're voting. Today is the last day of voting.

00:14:13.220 So by the time that this comes out, we'll know what happened in Virginia. It's kind of a 50 50 toss up.

00:14:19.500 But there's the yes vote, which means, yeah, we want to redistrict, is a little bit ahead.

00:14:25.460 But the strategy that the Republicans are using are using the same strategy they used for Governor Yonkin to win the governorship.

00:14:32.600 There is a whole lot of the Virginia landmass is actually those people vote Republican in the southern parts of the state.

00:14:40.760 And so they're trying to run up the score, the Republicans are, on the no vote in order to overcome the Washington, D.C. suburbs.

00:14:49.020 We'll see how that works out.

00:14:51.000 But just remember that they are doing this, and it's so funny, we're going to listen to

00:14:56.160 a video here in a few minutes, a few seconds, that their governor's talking about.

00:15:00.400 But they're telling you that it's temporary, all right?

00:15:03.580 Listen to these words when she talks about it in just a second, and then I want to come

00:15:07.600 back and talk about what it really, really means.

00:15:10.020 So if we can play SOT 1.

00:15:11.920 First, it's temporary.

00:15:14.320 Second, it's directly in response to what other states decide to do.

00:15:19.480 Third, and most importantly for me, it preserves Virginia's fair redistricting process into the future.

00:15:28.200 Okay, now that lady, she will lie when the truth sounds better.

00:15:32.560 So what they want to do is make it so that 90 percent, actually 91 percent of the congressional districts are Democrat and 9 percent, which would be one, are Republican.

00:15:47.860 Now, think about that, how that works out. Kamala Harris only won Virginia with 52 percent of the vote. 0.88

00:15:55.600 But yet they want to have a 90 percent congressional delegation.

00:16:00.300 That just doesn't add up.

00:16:01.420 There's nothing fair about that redistricting.

00:16:03.180 The reason they say it's temporary because they say, well, we're going to just put this in now.

00:16:08.080 And then after the census in 31, we're going to redistrict again as we normally do.

00:16:12.920 So this is only going to this is really going to allow us to cheat for just a couple of terms is what they're saying.

00:16:17.520 If you want to read between the lines on that.

00:16:20.140 And, of course, some of this is they are talking about, well, we do this because what Texas did.

00:16:26.220 However, Texas redistricting was based on voter registration.

00:16:31.760 It wasn't racially discriminatory, like people said, and it was upheld in federal court.

00:16:37.420 So it's already been tested in court and it's been upheld.

00:16:40.920 Now, that's in contrast to Virginia's redistricting, which is taking a 10 to 1 Democrat favoring map.

00:16:48.680 The testing redistricting only does a few districts.

00:16:51.020 Under the new maps, the Texas Tribune, which is a pretty liberal newspaper, the Texas Tribune reported that Trump would have won three more districts in 24 out of 38.

00:17:00.780 So not a big change in Texas, like they said.

00:17:02.880 But look at what, if you're watching this, look at what it's going to end up being on the proposed map.

00:17:07.700 Basically, everything except the lower southwest corner of Virginia is going to be represented by a Republican and by a Democrat.

00:17:16.340 And what they're doing is they're putting suburban Democrats in almost every district.

00:17:22.080 That's how they're allowing it to be so controlled by the Democrats, which is that that's going to be a problem.

00:17:29.680 This all kind of goes really a little bit.

00:17:32.220 It's entwined with what we've been talking about, the SAVE Act.

00:17:35.080 You know, the SAVE Act has not yet passed.

00:17:37.460 And Senator Kennedy from Louisiana has been one of the main proponents of, hey, let's get that passed.

00:17:43.480 Let's hear what he has to say.

00:17:44.720 The Democrats are not going to vote for the SAVE Act. We're going to have to do it with Republican votes.

00:17:51.740 The FISA bill is one option, but we also ought to attempt to do it through reconciliation, which we're in the middle of right now.

00:17:59.740 And I agree with that. The FISA Act is where they're just reauthorizing certain types of surveillance procedures and trying to actually hopefully.

00:18:11.040 I know a lot of people are against that, and I understand that because essentially it allows the government, in theory, to spy on U.S. citizens.

00:18:19.820 Now, hopefully they're just doing that on people that are, you know, violating the law or people that are here illegally or things like that, potential terrorists.

00:18:29.280 But back on the SAVE Act, here's the four things it requires, all right?

00:18:33.060 documented proof of U.S. citizenship for voter registration, in-person submission of proof of

00:18:39.180 citizenship, continual voter list maintenance, meaning that when people move from one state to

00:18:44.700 the other, we need to update those voter lists so that people can't vote in two different states,

00:18:50.960 or if they passed away or their name has changed, maybe they got married or they got divorced,

00:18:55.340 their name changed. And then also when they go to vote, you have to have a photo ID to vote.

00:19:00.920 And again, it's so silly that we're even talking about this.

00:19:04.740 You know, almost every American at one time or another has to go through some security mechanism where they have to have an ID, whether it's on an airplane or in a government building or things like that.

00:19:14.380 So us requiring that does not seem like much to ask.

00:19:19.000 But I agree that we should try to pass that, even if it's through budget reconciliation where we only need 51 votes.

00:19:26.820 And I know that they'll try to stop that, but I think Kennedy's on the right track there.

00:19:32.040 Now, there were a couple of questions that came in from listeners related to elections.

00:19:36.260 And the first one from Betty Ann says, what needs to change for us to win the midterms?

00:19:41.420 Well, we need to get the Iran thing taken care of, all right, so that gas prices will go back down.

00:19:46.520 And we're going to talk about that in just a minute.

00:19:48.900 And we also make sure that we're messaging properly.

00:19:52.900 Remember, the midterms are not a national vote.

00:19:56.920 They're an individual state, an individual congressional district vote.

00:20:01.520 And so we need to make sure that in those particular districts, whatever issue it is,

00:20:07.400 and most of the districts are not actually competitive.

00:20:10.080 Most of them are either pretty far Republican or pretty far Democrat.

00:20:12.700 But those in the middle, that'll make the difference in the majority.

00:20:15.900 We need to make sure we understand what those issues are in that particular district.

00:20:20.140 What might be an issue here in the Dallas area may be different than it is in the Kansas City area or vice versa.

00:20:27.020 So just make sure that the way that we win those is that we get our messaging out.

00:20:32.500 You know, things like, hey, wages are up six percent, which is more than they have been in the last three years.

00:20:38.160 Overall, the economy is doing very, very well.

00:20:40.720 We do have the thing going on with the gas prices now, but overall, the economy is doing well.

00:20:44.640 People that want to work are working and the wages are up from what they have been.

00:20:49.020 So that's the message we have to take. And then someone asked, and I feel bad for who I think is Linda, is that should I just vote for the best Democrat if I live in a blue county in a local election?

00:21:00.820 Well, first of all, if they have the opportunity to vote for a Republican, then you should vote for the conservative, right?

00:21:08.340 The one that boasts fits your views, which I assume you're conservative.

00:21:11.060 If it gets down to two Democrats, you don't want to stay home.

00:21:15.560 I agree that you should vote for the Democrat that has most, if at all, aligned with your views.

00:21:22.620 It's hard to find a conservative Democrat these days, but sometimes because elections are binary, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

00:21:31.140 Staying home is not the answer.

00:21:33.880 Staying home is never the answer.

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00:22:39.660 Let's talk a little bit about the Iran war and just kind of give you a quick update on that.

00:22:44.860 As you know, we're still in a ceasefire, although by the end of the day that this is going to come out,

00:22:51.040 the ceasefire, the first 10 days of it will have been over.

00:22:54.020 Now, whether or not they'll extend it, I'm not sure.

00:22:56.360 They might extend it.

00:22:57.420 I hope that they will go ahead and extend it.

00:22:59.840 But the big talk lately has been about the Strait of Hormuz, which is the little area that connects, you know, the Red Sea and the Strait of Oman and all of that through the Indian Ocean and trying to keep that open because that's a huge shipping route.

00:23:15.180 Now, in the past, Iran has used blackmail against companies to be able to go through there and they've charged them and all these types of things.

00:23:24.880 And so recently what we did is we put a naval blockade on all of the Iranian ports so that

00:23:32.440 Iran could not send their ships out of there.

00:23:35.900 And the goal of that was to cut off their money supply.

00:23:39.780 Well, of course, they hadn't liked that either.

00:23:42.240 And so they've tried to say, well, we're going to close the Strait of Hormuz.

00:23:45.900 Well, they don't have the capability to close the Strait of Hormuz.

00:23:48.560 Let me explain this to you real quickly.

00:23:51.020 The Strait of Hormuz does have some mines in it, you know, some mines in the water. 0.61

00:23:56.600 Iran can fly some drones.

00:23:58.860 However, the U.S. Navy has the ability to clean all of those things out. 0.98

00:24:04.040 But what we're trying to do is to avoid further casualties.

00:24:08.500 And not just for us, but we really would like to avoid casualties on both sides.

00:24:13.800 And that's why we're trying so hard to negotiate with them.

00:24:16.840 However, a lot of the reason that the traffic has slowed down, for example, there were, you know, 24 ships on Saturday, 30 ships on Sunday.

00:24:25.640 Only three went through yesterday.

00:24:26.960 And the reason for that primarily is because insurance companies that insure these ships, they do not want to insure them going through that strait when there's danger there.

00:24:39.620 And so Iran, I think, took some pot shots at a couple of the ships and what have you.

00:24:44.240 And so it's been kind of halted.

00:24:46.280 But never fear. We've done this before. As a matter of fact, the U.S. Navy has had to clean up shipping lanes before.

00:24:56.340 And we've done that and we've done that in the past. And we can do we will do that again in 1987, 88.

00:25:04.640 They call it Operation Earnest Will. The Navy, they they reflagged the tankers.

00:25:09.900 They escorted themselves. And I think that's what you're going to have.

00:25:12.600 We had to do that for a long time. I think that's what we're going to end up having to do.

00:25:15.900 We do already have mine-sweeping ships in there, and we have the ability to take out their drones.

00:25:21.140 But, again, we're trying to do it in as least of an intrusive way as possible.

00:25:27.320 But it will get done.

00:25:28.820 Iran doesn't control anything.

00:25:30.760 It's in our capabilities to be able to get that open, and we will get that open no matter what it takes, 0.60

00:25:38.960 even if it does take us going back and doing some more bombing of some of their facilities.

00:25:43.920 Now, I noticed they came out yesterday and said, hey, we've got a secret weapon that we are, you know, another idea on how we're going to be able to fight back against America.

00:25:53.900 Don't believe that. That's just that's just that's just rhetoric.

00:25:57.500 OK, it's another red herring where they're simply trying to delay, delay, delay.

00:26:02.940 And so they can build back up their forces or whatever it is they're doing.

00:26:07.720 And that's just not going to happen.

00:26:10.120 So it's going to be OK. Feel good.

00:26:12.320 feel, you know, nobody likes war, but you can feel good that we are going to be able to get

00:26:18.380 that straight open and get traffic running through there. I don't think there's any doubt

00:26:22.100 that that's going to happen. So, uh, we did have a few questions on the Iran situation. If you have 0.90

00:26:27.780 any specific more questions you want to email me on, please feel free. You can email me on anything.

00:26:32.340 Ron at ronsimmons.com. Ron at ronsimmons.com. All right. Here's a few questions. Let me answer

00:26:37.880 these. This is about Charlie Kirk. At the end of his life, he said that we underestimate Iran.

00:26:46.040 What are your thoughts? Well, I think that we have in the past. I don't think President Trump 1.00

00:26:50.880 has underestimated them. Now, I do think that President Trump thought that our allies would

00:26:56.920 provide us more help. I do believe that, that them knowing that we were simply trying to remove

00:27:05.780 their nuclear capabilities and them knowing that Iran's nuclear potential had much more risk to 0.96

00:27:16.320 the Europeans than it does to us, I think he probably felt like they would join us, even

00:27:21.920 though we didn't give them a heads up. And the reason we didn't give them a heads up is because 0.58

00:27:25.260 that we didn't think they could keep it a secret and they wouldn't have kept it a secret. So I

00:27:30.980 think that part is we underestimated our allies, not so much Iran. And because I think we have 0.98

00:27:36.560 accomplished what we, I think we are accomplishing and have accomplished what we want to do so far

00:27:40.940 in Iran. And there are two things left to do, as we talked about last week, is we have to

00:27:44.960 remove their nuclear materials. A lot of that's going to be under the bunker that we bombed last

00:27:49.820 June, I think it was. And then the other is going to be making sure that strait stays open forever,

00:27:57.820 that we can't let them continue to be able to blackmail countries and businesses around the world.

00:28:04.560 The second, the War Powers Act and comparison between what Obama did and what Trump is doing.

00:28:09.700 Well, the chief, you know, the commander in chief, excuse me,

00:28:16.480 the commander in chief does not have to have the War Powers Act to protect America's interest.

00:28:22.120 And neither did Obama and neither does Trump.

00:28:25.040 He is protecting America's interest.

00:28:26.740 he felt, and I agree with him, and even the United Nations atomic energy affiliate agrees

00:28:33.840 that Iran had 60% enriched uranium, which would just take a few weeks to get that to

00:28:41.080 90% to make it available for nuclear warheads.

00:28:44.260 So he believed that there was a threat to America, just like President Obama did in

00:28:48.980 some of the things that he did, and President Bush, all the presidents have done that.

00:28:52.000 So I don't believe that the War Powers Act has to come into play there.

00:28:58.600 Secondly, war on Iran and the effects on the economy.

00:29:02.320 It's the third question by Cayley.

00:29:05.400 The primary effect, I think, has been on gas prices.

00:29:09.700 That's what most of us see because most everybody buys gasoline unless you're driving a Tesla or an electric car.

00:29:15.160 And then in order for those generators to run to produce electricity, guess what it takes?

00:29:19.960 It takes gas and diesel and all that type of stuff.

00:29:22.580 So just so you know that at the end of the day,

00:29:24.160 you're still going back to the petrochemical world primarily.

00:29:27.260 So we're about a dollar a gallon above what we were before the conflict.

00:29:33.100 If you take this, if you follow me for just a second.

00:29:35.700 Okay.

00:29:35.900 So if it's a dollar a gallon, more expensive,

00:29:38.980 the average American drives their car about 15,000 miles a year.

00:29:43.700 Some may, some of you may do more.

00:29:45.260 Some of you may do less.

00:29:46.200 So if you drive your car 15,000 miles a year and you get about 20 miles to the gallon, which would be average, some of you get a lot more.

00:29:54.400 If you drive a truck like I do, sometimes you get less.

00:29:57.620 Then that's going to equate to costing you about $2 more per day, about $60 a month.

00:30:06.580 So it's costing us now a couple dollars more per day, each family.

00:30:11.040 Now, if you have two cars and you both drive them 15,000, that'd be $4 a day.

00:30:14.840 But that's about what it's costing you. So nobody likes it, but that's not a huge sacrifice to get rid of a nuclear threat, in my opinion.

00:30:24.520 The fourth question is, if Trump were to pull out of Iran, do you believe the U.S. has won like Trump claims? 0.75

00:30:30.320 I think we have damaged them, but unless we get the nuclear materials removed, then we haven't accomplished our goal. 0.75

00:30:38.020 And so I think we need to do that. And unless the Strait of Hormuz is open all the time, then we haven't done that. 0.60

00:30:43.220 So I would probably say, no, we have accomplished a lot. 0.67

00:30:46.200 OK, we have definitely reduced their ability to transact war, but I don't think we're finished yet.

00:30:52.540 And I do think that we'll stay till the job is finished. 0.77

00:30:54.800 I think we've learned our lesson from that in the past.

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00:32:09.720 Tulsi Gabbard, our Director of National Intelligence, DNI, has looked into some of the impeachment

00:32:22.600 things that were politically motivated against Donald Trump, and some of those dealt with

00:32:28.260 intelligence. So that's how she got involved in it. About a week ago, Gabbard sent criminal

00:32:35.020 referrals to the Department of Justice for two of the central figures in the conspiracy to

00:32:39.700 impeach Donald Trump. Michael Atkinson, who served as the inspector general, the one that's supposed

00:32:44.760 to be inspecting what other people do of the intelligence community, and the unnamed CIA

00:32:51.880 analyst whistleblower who filed a complaint about Trump's 2019 telephone call with Zelensky in

00:32:58.260 Ukraine. You guys remember that? They said they tried to do a quid pro quo on there related to

00:33:03.960 Biden's son and all that type of stuff. But here's what Director Gabbard had to say.

00:33:11.540 This is really such a violation of public trust and the responsibility that we expect all of our

00:33:16.960 inspectors generals to have in that he didn't conduct a full investigation. He didn't even

00:33:22.280 ask to see the transcript of the phone call between President Trump and Zelensky. And he

00:33:27.920 admitted to Congress that he didn't have any first. He did not have any evidence that he was

00:33:34.340 relying on. He had made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice based on this so-called

00:33:38.740 whistleblower's complaint. Department of Justice came back and said there's nothing here. This

00:33:44.100 inspector general then went to Congress anyway and presented it to them. All of this coming down to

00:33:49.920 the bottom line of which this was a partisan political attempt once again to undermine the

00:33:55.320 will of the American people who elected Donald Trump as president of the United States.

00:33:59.340 I'll tell you, whatever you think about President Trump, the witch hunt after him

00:34:03.860 has been the most relentless thing I've ever experienced. And I know what the other side

00:34:10.740 basically are thinking, because I have people in my, not my immediate family, but extended family,

00:34:16.300 that I know what they believe. They believe that the ends justifies the means. And they believe

00:34:20.880 he's such an evil person that no matter what you have to do to get rid of him, then that's okay.

00:34:27.480 You know what? Even if you believe that he's an evil, evil person, which I do not, I think he's 0.53

00:34:32.980 done a lot of really good things. It doesn't mean I agree with him on everything, as we've talked

00:34:36.660 about before, but he's done a lot of good things. His policies have been much more in line with what

00:34:41.300 I believe that any other president, maybe since President Reagan. The way that we have attacked

00:34:49.300 him or the way that he has been attacked is absolutely illegal. It's not the way our system

00:34:55.160 works. Our system, for sure, allows us to elect people that are not good people. And if you think

00:35:01.800 he's a bad person, I get it. Don't vote for him. You didn't. But don't do methods like Director

00:35:08.500 Gabbard talks about in here. And don't do all the other things that you tried to do in New York,

00:35:12.780 that you tried to do in Georgia. All of those types of things are that James Comey tried to do,

00:35:17.460 All right. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous. But look at the graphic that that director Gabbard put out. I want to talk about that for just a second. 0.95

00:35:26.900 All right. So this is a graphic that she put out, which I think is pretty well done.

00:35:32.500 It highlights the weaponized whistleblower process, observing that the inspector, the investigation relied on secondhand evidence and self-declared Democrat whistleblower who lied about speaking with Democrats in Congress.

00:35:49.360 So they were behind the scenes.

00:35:52.320 This whistleblower was talking to Democrats in Congress.

00:35:54.860 It also notes that Russiagate author was a key witness.

00:35:58.880 So remember the whole Russiagate type of thing that they, you know, said Russia was helping President Trump, you know, beat Hillary Clinton, which proved not to be the case.

00:36:08.300 Even Mueller couldn't figure that out.

00:36:10.460 The special prosecutor.

00:36:12.820 One of the key sources was co-authors of the 2017 Russia hoax.

00:36:18.140 It was also a close colleague of the discredited and former FBI agent Peter Strauch.

00:36:23.280 You remember Peter and the pictures and the text messages with he and his little girly friend.

00:36:26.860 And then furthermore, Gabbert notes of false narratives was used for impeachment.

00:36:31.980 The inspector general exceeded its statutory authority and ignored DOJ guidance.

00:36:37.100 In fact, when the inspector general, as she said, sent it to the DOJ, they said there's nothing here.

00:36:42.040 But then he went to Congress anyway.

00:36:45.040 And so this matter has now been referred to the Department of Justice with potential charges, including false statements, obstruction and conspiracy.

00:36:53.780 I hope that they're able to put some of the people in jail over this.

00:36:57.440 It's probably doubtful the way this seems to work out, but I sure hope so.

00:37:01.200 We need to send a strong message on the types of taxes that you use against duly elected officials.

00:37:07.980 Now, speaking of duly elected officials, we had a couple of resignations this week in Congress.

00:37:14.660 And one of them, one of them was just awesome.

00:37:18.680 Representative Eric Swalwell, Democrat from California, resigned because of that.

00:37:25.560 You know, he's running for governor of California, and he resigned because of all the charges against him for sexual misconduct.

00:37:35.260 And also Representative Tony Gonzalez, a Republican, Swalwell's a Democrat.

00:37:40.560 And Swalwell was probably going to win the nomination for governor.

00:37:44.440 But, man, bad guy.

00:37:45.700 I remember he also had a girlfriend or a wife that was affiliated with Chinese government or something like that.

00:37:52.620 Somehow there was some link in there.

00:37:54.480 I'm not 100% sure on that, but there was some linkage in there.

00:37:58.300 But they both resigned because there were motions to expel them on the floor.

00:38:05.440 And Gonzales, if you remember Tony Gonzales, he had an affair with a staffer, and the staffer ended up committing suicide.

00:38:12.600 burned herself to death, which is, that was a troubled young woman, which is very sad, but

00:38:17.900 we've got a video of their resignations. It has been my privilege to serve the residents of Texas's

00:38:23.900 23rd Congressional District. Signed sincerely, Tony Gonzalez, member of Congress. I am deeply

00:38:30.080 sorry to my family, staff, and constituents for mistakes in judgment I've made in my past. I will

00:38:36.320 fight the serious false allegations made against me. However, I must take responsibility and

00:38:42.020 ownership for the mistakes I did make. I am aware of efforts to bring an immediate expulsion vote

00:38:47.480 against me and other members. Expelling anyone in Congress without due process within days of

00:38:53.380 an allegation being made is wrong, but it's also wrong for my constituents to have me distracted

00:38:58.580 from my duties. I will work with my staff in the coming days to ensure they are able,

00:39:03.040 in my absence, to serve the needs of the good people of the 14th Congressional District.

00:39:07.480 Signed sincerely, Eric Swalwell.

00:39:10.040 Wow.

00:39:10.800 Swalwell.

00:39:12.140 I mean, he kind of wants to admit it, but then doesn't really want to admit it, right?

00:39:15.820 These sexual allegations go back to 2018.

00:39:19.720 And I promise you, people like Nancy Pelosi and others had at least heard of this and through their silence had protected him.

00:39:28.900 He reimbursed himself more than $200,000 in campaign funds for child care.

00:39:36.120 I mean, I'm not sure you should be able to use campaign funds for child care.

00:39:42.340 That doesn't seem right.

00:39:44.380 And he had other expenses that were included, alcohol deliveries, hotel rooms, Ubers, paying his live-in nanny, who didn't have authorization to work in the United States.

00:39:56.040 Who was protecting Swalwell?

00:39:57.620 That's really the big question.

00:39:59.040 And when did they decide he needed to drop out of the California governor's race?

00:40:02.360 Well, I think what happened is they were so afraid if we don't get him out of the race now, it's kind of like they did with Joe Biden.

00:40:08.180 If we don't get him out of the race now, then all these allegations are going to come out in the general election and we're going to put a Republican in the governor's mansion, which they might do anyway.

00:40:19.180 Steve Hilston could very well win that.

00:40:21.900 It's not likely because California is such a Democrat state, but that could happen.

00:40:27.620 And Tony Gonzalez, Republican, you know, military veteran, really hate that for him.

00:40:34.560 But he made mistakes and he needs to move on.

00:40:37.580 We don't need to have people like that representing us in Congress, whether they're at the state level or the national level or whatever.

00:40:44.660 We don't need that here in Texas in our Senate races.

00:40:48.180 We don't need it in our House of Representative races and we don't need it anywhere in our government.

00:40:53.920 Also, one final one is that Department of Labor Secretary Lori Chavez de Rimmer, which is hard to say, she has resigned.

00:41:05.140 And she was Trump's labor secretary.

00:41:07.460 And she stepped down from her position on Monday amid a probe into her alleged use of government-funded travel to visit friends and family, which, again, innocent until proven guilty.

00:41:18.380 But I didn't hear her denying any of these things.

00:41:22.320 The report claims that Chavez de Rimmer had staffers falsify government trips and destinations she wished to visit on her personal time.

00:41:30.320 Also accused her of drinking in her office during work hours and having an extramarital affair with a security guard.

00:41:36.800 And also talked about her husband having inappropriate conduct with some of her staffers.

00:41:41.600 So I don't know what's going on in that relationship, but no matter what type of labor secretary she was, it's good that she has moved on.

00:41:49.620 And now Kevin Sunderland will serve as the acting labor secretary.

00:41:53.580 A couple of questions here at the end that that relate from listeners that come back to listeners relating to finances.

00:42:03.820 But before I get into that, you know, here's the challenge.

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00:42:33.480 And the best place to do it is locally, whether that's your school board or your county boards or your city council, those types of things.

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00:43:41.040 okay as we finish up before we get into Allie's interview that you're going to love

00:43:50.700 talk a little bit it's a couple of financial questions if we've been in our starter home

00:43:55.340 for 10 years should we move and give up a 2.7 interest rate I wouldn't do that yet 2.7 percent

00:44:02.120 interest rate is probably the lowest that we've seen there may be a few of you out there they've

00:44:05.820 got a little bit lower, but that's pretty hard to beat. So I would stay there for now. Now,

00:44:11.400 if you come across a really good deal, just remember that your interest rate is going to

00:44:15.920 double. Now, maybe you've made enough equity to where when you think about that, you'll not have

00:44:22.880 to have as much of a mortgage this next time. And so the payment may end up being about the same.

00:44:29.140 And so your total interest payments over your mortgage time might be about the same as what

00:44:33.560 you're doing now. But I wouldn't be in a rush to do that. I mean, I think that 2.7% interest rate

00:44:39.320 is pretty hard to beat. Housing is just so disheartening. What do you predict? Well,

00:44:44.480 again, I think it'll get better. And one of the reasons I think it'll get better,

00:44:48.600 even though we have like a 10 million unit housing shortage in America, I read the other day,

00:44:55.080 because that we've shut off the border, the demand will just naturally go down. And that

00:45:02.580 should lower, at least make more reasonable some prices. And I also believe that we're going to

00:45:07.760 see over the long term, maybe not until we get through this Iran thing, we're going to see

00:45:12.600 interest rates kind of come back a little bit. They won't be go back to like, you won't get any

00:45:16.540 more 2.7% mortgages, I don't think. But they may come down to where it's around 5%, somewhere in

00:45:21.960 that for mortgage. And that would be a good rate, by the way. I know you can get between 5% and 6%

00:45:27.460 now, but I think they could get back down to 5%. But it's expensive. And one of the things I tell

00:45:32.260 you, if you live in a very expensive blue or in a blue state, or even some of the red ones in the

00:45:39.000 suburban areas are very expensive, you really may need to consider moving to a less expensive area.

00:45:45.000 I mean, between taxes and everything in the blue states, I would definitely get out of the blue

00:45:49.400 states if I'm you. I would definitely get out of there and try to get to a cost of living state

00:45:54.680 that's much more manageable for your family based on the income that you make. And then how did your

00:46:00.000 kids show, how did you show your kids financial stewardship? Yeah. And, you know, we certainly

00:46:06.900 weren't perfect at this as well, but I think what we tried to show them, first of all, that we don't

00:46:12.220 own any of it, that it all comes from God and that we're really just stewards of it. And we

00:46:17.520 absolutely preach from day one that we give a portion of our first fruits to

00:46:25.760 the kingdom, whether that's through our local church, which we believe in doing,

00:46:31.440 and through other organizations as well. That's the main thing that we did. And then we also

00:46:37.120 wanted to make sure that they knew that the money that they were given by us was not their money,

00:46:43.640 and it's not something that they earned or had a right to, and that when they wanted something,

00:46:51.220 We wanted them to earn that either through doing things or getting their own job or something like that.

00:46:56.720 But I think they watched us not live at the very top of our ability.

00:47:02.740 We always tried to live under our means.

00:47:05.820 And I think watching that has allowed—I'm proud of the stewardship that our adult kids have shown.

00:47:11.020 They've done a really good job at that.

00:47:12.520 Neither one of them that have their own places live above their means.

00:47:16.680 And, you know, they kept a bunch of old cars and things like that.

00:47:19.920 So I'm proud of them for doing that.

00:47:21.380 They've been very, very good about that.

00:47:23.380 But I just think you have to be, you know, no matter the fact that you want to give your kids a lot and we wanted that, we invested.

00:47:30.240 What we did is we invested in our kids through their Christian education, through their colleges, things like that, as opposed to just giving them stuff.

00:47:37.780 We just weren't into that.

00:47:39.700 It's been good being with you.

00:47:41.180 Again, I want to remind you that if you haven't had the chance to buy Life Lessons from The Little Red Wagon, I think it's a great book that you'll enjoy.

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00:48:31.900 you know, she's so much like her mother

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00:50:05.420 Pavey, Jeremy, thank you both so much for joining us. Pavey, just a couple of weeks ago,

00:50:10.480 So the Supreme Court in Finland found that you were guilty of what they called hate speech.

00:50:16.460 Can you just remind us of the substance of this conviction?

00:50:21.180 What did you say that was apparently so hateful?

00:50:27.260 This has been a very long process.

00:50:30.500 It started almost seven years ago from a Bible tweet that I published in regard of human sexuality.

00:50:41.860 It was a Twitter update that was against the Evangelical Lutheran Church that had announced its support to the Pride event.

00:50:55.040 So when this process started, there became more and more criminal complaints and charges against my views about, I would say, classical Christianity, what the Bible teaches about sexuality and homosexuality.

00:51:14.700 And there was a pamphlet that I had written already 20 years ago, which was titled as Male and Female He Created Them.

00:51:29.020 And the Supreme Court found me guilty for authoring this booklet.

00:51:38.060 The ruling was mixed.

00:51:41.480 I was happy that it acquitted unanimously me for publishing the Bible tweet,

00:51:51.660 where I took a photo from the Book of Romans, its first chapter.

00:51:57.480 Right. So it was it was a mixed ruling. But of course, I was disappointed for for conviction for my pamphlet, for the church booklet that I had.

00:52:11.920 Yeah, I mean, people, I think, really need to understand that what's going on here is Christian views about human sexuality held by millions of people across the world have been declared hate speech under Finnish law.

00:52:29.440 And so that's a startling outcome in the case.

00:52:33.240 Another thing that's so strange about the case is how hard the court had to work to convict Pivey for a 2004 pamphlet.

00:52:40.240 But they convicted her under a law that didn't even exist at the time she published that pamphlet.

00:52:46.260 So they had to retroactively apply the law to something she wrote years and years ago.

00:52:51.180 It's like being punished for something you tweeted in 2020 or 2010, 2004, and suddenly you're held responsible for it because some law came on the books 10 years after your tweet came out.

00:53:05.620 It's pretty audacious and very concerning for free speech.

00:53:09.060 And Jeremy, can you explain why Pyvee was acquitted for the tweet? Romans 1, very clear,

00:53:17.220 as you said, millions of Christians around the world for 2,000 years have held to the Bible,

00:53:22.300 including what Romans 1 says about male and female and sexuality. She tweeted that Bible verse. She

00:53:28.540 was acquitted for that, but it was the pamphlet that the Supreme Court found made her guilty of

00:53:34.960 hate speech. Like what exactly does that mean? Why did they go that direction? Well, this is exactly

00:53:40.380 the problem with hate speech laws. They're completely inscrutable. Nobody knows what they

00:53:44.100 mean. People who are subject to them, like Pivey, don't know what they mean. They don't know what

00:53:48.760 they can and can't say. But the government officials applying it don't know what they mean

00:53:52.760 either. And they're just like subjectively coming up with whatever they think they want to do

00:53:57.260 and using the law, which is completely vague and gives no direction to the enforcement officers

00:54:02.460 or to the people who are governed by it, what they can do or what they can say.

00:54:06.280 And so I think, you know, I can't answer your question except to say, I think, you know,

00:54:11.820 what we had here was three separate prosecutions of Pivey for her religious expression about

00:54:21.520 human sexuality.

00:54:22.580 And they were determined somehow to get a conviction against her.

00:54:26.520 And unfortunately, they finally were at the Finnish Supreme Court.

00:54:29.620 And the Finnish Supreme Court, as I described, had to do some pretty amazing legal gymnastics to even reach back and punish her for something that the law didn't even apply to.

00:54:40.020 It didn't even exist at the time she wrote the pamphlet.

00:54:42.580 So, I mean, it's a story of why we don't have hate speech laws in the U.S.

00:54:46.960 And it's because they are just enforced at the whim of the government officials who are wielding them.

00:54:53.780 And that's not a place where free speech can thrive.

00:54:56.880 Right. And before we go back to Pivey, Jeremy, can you tell me what is the consequence of this conviction?

00:55:03.420 Well, Pivey has been fined and it's a criminal. So this is under the war crimes code of Finnish law.

00:55:11.400 So it's a criminal conviction under war crimes for ultimately hate speech.

00:55:16.480 And essentially the conviction is essentially something like you've offended a protected group of people.

00:55:22.780 And so, you know, that's like you can't even criticize people or express a view that people might find offensive.

00:55:28.960 And that's essentially what's going on here.

00:55:30.840 If somebody thinks that your expression is offensive to any person, any group of people that's protected under finished law, then you could be subject to free speech prosecution, prosecutions for your freedom of speech as well.

00:55:46.840 And have we seen others deal with this same kind of prosecutorial punishment? Does it seem to be Christians who are singled out? Have Muslims also dealt with this kind of targeting from the Finnish government?

00:56:01.640 it? Well, I think you have to broaden the scope and maybe probably have something to say here,

00:56:06.460 too. But across Europe, this is a huge problem. You know, in the UK, 12,000 arrests over the last

00:56:14.520 couple of years each year for what people are posting online. And that's led to thousands of

00:56:21.200 convictions each year for people's expression online, whether they're opposing, you know,

00:56:25.320 immigration policies in the UK or, you know, some other aspect of what the UK is doing. What we've

00:56:30.000 seen across Europe is European officials don't want to be criticized. They don't want views that

00:56:36.840 they find to be unpopular or that they disfavor to be able to be expressed online or even on the

00:56:46.540 public square of the streets and sidewalks of the cities of Europe. And so we're at the beginning,

00:56:52.660 I think, edge of a existential free speech crisis in Europe. Pivey's case is one very extreme example

00:56:59.800 of that. Paivi, do you have anything to add to that? Yes, I think that the main target of these

00:57:08.360 processes, they have been really the Christian view of man. For example, we have had in Finland

00:57:15.020 a case where a Muslim imam said in TV that homosexual people should be stoned if they 0.87

00:57:24.300 they have found and they didn't prosecute or file up charges against him but what i have said

00:57:34.220 in in pamphlet has not been anything cruel against homosexual people i have said only that

00:57:42.380 god has created all people as his own image and and we all are equal but it is the god's creation

00:57:51.740 and intention that the human sexuality is between male and female and the marriage is just intended

00:58:03.420 between man and woman and the supreme court stated that if you say that the homosexuality is some

00:58:15.580 kind of deviation from normal sexuality then you think that these people are inferior to other

00:58:23.020 people and it is hate speech so this was the core of the ruling of of the supreme court and i i think

00:58:31.020 that it is against a christian view of man and and that's why it is also a matter of of not only

00:58:40.700 freedom of speech, but also freedom of faith. Definitely. And here you are again saying the

00:58:49.200 very things that have been convicted in Finland of hate speech. And so tell me why you have decided

00:58:55.260 to push back against this, why you've decided to fight, why you've decided to keep declaring

00:58:59.840 these things that God says are true, when you could easily just say, you know what, I'm going

00:59:04.740 to go quiet, I'm going to back down, I'll pay my fine, and this will all be over.

00:59:10.980 Yes, I have to tell that in the beginning when the police started the interrogations,

00:59:16.740 they gave me two weeks' time to take away these writings. But I said that these are not only my

00:59:24.720 opinions. This is what the Word of God says. It is what Apostle Paul has said. So it is not only

00:59:32.800 my opinion and i think that we are now living in that kind of time that we have to be open about

00:59:39.200 our faith also in these contradictory issues and what has given a big joy to me is that this has

00:59:48.760 given a lot of possibilities and chances to tell about what bible teaches about about these things

00:59:58.020 but also to tell about gospel, that what is the solution to the problem of sin in the Bible.

01:00:04.780 So I have had chances to testify about Jesus and about gospel.

01:00:09.820 And I have got also many messages from people, also from gay people,

01:00:15.000 who have told that when they have followed this case, they have started to read the Bible

01:00:21.940 and they have found Jesus and salvation in their lives.

01:00:26.100 So I think that there has been a purpose in this fight, and I think that this has been all the time in God's hands, and I trust that also in the future this is, if I'm going to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights.

01:00:47.920 Wow.

01:00:48.320 So I pray that it would also be in God's hands.

01:00:52.960 Yes. Gosh, it just reminds me of some of the final words that Jesus told his disciples of

01:00:58.000 what it's going to be like when we go into towns and we share the gospel that will present the

01:01:02.860 truth before courts, before kings, before all different kinds of people who may reject it.

01:01:07.940 But then, of course, God uses these acts of boldness through the Holy Spirit to grab onto

01:01:12.680 the hearts of some people. And your testimony certainly has encouraged me. I'm wondering what

01:01:18.660 it's been like personally for your family for your friends to watch this what has that support

01:01:24.480 been like for you i have been so so uh delighted and and blessed that my family my my husband and

01:01:35.820 my five adult children and 12 grandchildren they have all supported me during this process and

01:01:44.200 they are praying for me and they have said that stand strong behind these teachings so

01:01:52.100 so this is this is a very very big big issue and big thing for me and of course I have also

01:02:02.640 got a lot of messages of people who tell that they are praying for me and my family and I believe

01:02:10.740 that when God raises people to pray, he has some good idea and purpose.

01:02:20.480 So I believe that God uses this process.

01:02:24.520 There is a purpose for this fight.

01:02:27.660 Amen.

01:02:28.180 And if people in this audience want to reach out to you,

01:02:31.680 tell you that they're praying for you, encourage you, how can they do that?

01:02:35.180 oh i'm so happy to hear the messages of of praying and i have got a lot of messages uh to to my for

01:02:47.720 example to my my email from people but i'm also very thankful for adf international who has been

01:02:56.720 supporting during this process. So I'm happy if people also support ADF International. It has

01:03:05.840 had very, very big important role in this case. Okay. And Jeremy, if maybe you can give us a

01:03:16.120 way for people to reach out words of encouragement, we can put it in the description of the episode

01:03:20.780 and people can find it and reach out. I know that my audience just is a very prayerful audience and

01:03:26.340 they love to encourage fellow Christians. So I know that they'll want to just like reach out and

01:03:31.240 give a fortifying word. Jeremy, what should we here in America, while we're so thankful for the

01:03:37.120 First Amendment, what should we be cautious of as we're looking to what's happening in Europe?

01:03:42.480 And what can we do here to make sure that something like what's happening in Finland

01:03:47.080 doesn't happen here? Well, this is a really important question because I think Americans

01:03:52.180 think well i'm glad that's not happening here but here's the problem this ruling immediately

01:03:58.260 threatens american speech and here's why finland's part of the european union the european union's

01:04:04.500 mechanism for exporting the hate speech laws of member states like finland is called the digital

01:04:10.820 services act and what that does is make it illegal now because pivy's christian speech about sexual

01:04:18.340 ethics is illegal in Finland, it's also illegal on every U.S. platform, Meta, Facebook, Google,

01:04:26.440 and YouTube, all of it, because of the DSA. The DSA, the Digital Services Act, exports those

01:04:33.240 policies to the American companies by directly regulating them and telling them, you have to

01:04:38.680 take down illegal content, content that we deem illegal in the EU. And so the companies are under

01:04:44.740 extraordinary pressure and coercive threat of coercive fines, 6% of their global revenue.

01:04:52.300 You're talking billions and billions of dollars in fines hanging over their heads

01:04:56.080 if they don't do the European Union's censorship bidding. And so I think it's hard for Americans

01:05:03.320 sometimes they look at this like, this is a terrible situation, but I'm really grateful

01:05:06.480 it's not happening here. The DSA brings this ruling immediately to US shores, to US speech

01:05:13.000 on U.S. platforms. And the EU thinks it doesn't matter where you live or who you are. If your

01:05:18.500 speech reaches into the EU and somebody in the EU is offended by it, then they will tell the

01:05:26.240 platforms to take that speech down. So this is, you know, the world is now governed and people

01:05:33.380 speak, right, on a handful of platforms across the world. Our digital public square is controlled

01:05:39.400 by a handful of companies, and the European Commission is trying to make sure that those

01:05:44.140 companies abide by European standards of free speech. Those are not the First Amendment standards

01:05:49.160 by any stretch, as this case clearly shows. The EU wants to shut down speech they disagree with,

01:05:55.180 whether it's Christian speech or speech opposing immigration or, you know, they have speech that

01:06:00.200 says you can't insult politicians in Germany. And so all of those laws in the EU can be enforced

01:06:08.000 and against American platforms and American speech, and I think really critically important

01:06:13.220 here, Christian speech affirming, you know, centuries-long ethics related to the sexual

01:06:20.900 morality issues is now illegal in Finland, and so that gives the EU all the authority they need

01:06:27.420 to go to the platforms and say, you need to ratchet this speech down on your platforms,

01:06:32.180 or we're going to fine you 6% of your global revenue. Wow, that is insane. So can we advocate

01:06:37.960 that our lawmakers help us out? I mean, are we completely powerless to do anything?

01:06:43.800 No, we're not powerless, but it's going to take a partisan move. I think it's really at Congress

01:06:48.260 to pass a law that says, look, these companies do not need to comply with EU censorship demands.

01:06:54.660 The Trump administration is actually doing a lot of really good work here.

01:06:57.820 They're trying to leverage trade negotiations and other things with the EU

01:07:01.540 to make sure that some of the excesses of the Digital Services Act don't

01:07:07.000 spill over and harm American platforms and speech. But the reality is the law on its face

01:07:12.100 was written to govern U.S. platforms and to force them to bend the knee to European censorship

01:07:18.180 demands. And we need laws in place in the U.S. that say our companies don't have to comply with

01:07:23.300 that. We want U.S. companies to comply with U.S. law, and that includes U.S. First Amendment

01:07:28.040 standards. Yes, and amen. It's made me think as we're talking. I'm thankful for an administration

01:07:33.500 right now that does care about religious liberty does care about the first amendment very thankful

01:07:37.220 for a supreme court and the makeup that it has but to your point we need a law that transcends

01:07:42.740 the current supreme court makeup we don't know how long that's going to last and also the current

01:07:47.460 administration it's not enough for us just to say oh i'm thankful that that's not happening here

01:07:52.500 clearly europe is um it's a canary in the coal mine so thank you pivy for your bravery for your

01:08:00.140 courage. Thank you so much to Alliance Defending Freedom. Y'all are both on the front lines taking

01:08:04.500 a lot of risks on behalf of the rest of us, especially us Christians. So God bless you

01:08:09.480 both and thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much.

01:08:30.140 Thank you.

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