Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1340 ｜ Ex-Muslim： The Only Way to Stop Sharia Law in the US ｜ Shahriq Khan

00:00:00.980 Sharit Khan was raised a devout Muslim. After 9-11, he decided it was his goal in life to

00:00:08.180 represent Islam as well as he could in America and convert as many people to Islam as possible.

00:00:14.380 But God changed his heart when he was in college. His story is absolutely amazing.

00:00:19.240 And now he has an approach to winning Muslims over to Christ. And it might not be what you 0.86

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00:00:57.080 Shark, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

00:00:59.780 Can you tell us who you are and what you do?

00:01:01.280 Yeah.

00:01:01.660 Well, first of all, it's an honor.

00:01:02.940 And it's a pleasure to be your brother in Christ.

00:01:04.660 Yes.

00:01:05.020 To have such a powerful sister in Christ to be here with.

00:01:08.680 My name is Shark Khan.

00:01:10.220 I am 27 years old.

00:01:11.780 I'm the founder of Christ Underground.

00:01:13.600 It's a global ministry now, by the grace of God, that helps equip the church to reach the most about Muslims.

00:01:20.000 And my heart posture and our ministry's heart posture goes very hand in hand.

00:01:23.440 I have a full conviction that the Muslims must become Christian and there's no other way around

00:01:29.080 it. Um, I was born and raised in New York city and I'm a New Yorker at heart, but I moved down 1.00

00:01:34.260 to Texas and I got saved in college, which I'm sure we'll dive into the testimony.

00:01:39.800 But yeah, tell me a little bit more about your upbringing, being raised Muslim. Tell me about

00:01:43.960 your parents. Yeah. Well, I want to start here. Um, it really starts with my father and I, I want

00:01:48.860 to bring this up because it'll tie into the whole thing. But when, when you're engaging Muslims in 0.99

00:01:53.320 their faith i want you to know like what you're really dealing with so my father's from pakistan 0.99

00:01:58.320 and bless his heart he's he's amazing um he was one of 17 and he was like the golden child like

00:02:03.840 he has to come here to america he's the one that's going to get the american job get the

00:02:07.060 american income send money back home bring people over and he did it he did it he came here at 19

00:02:13.000 with 60 in his pocket he was a taxi cab driver he worked his entire way through school wow and

00:02:19.640 he actually would meet my own mom as a taxi cab driver. She was like a New York hot rod Indian 0.99

00:02:25.380 lady. And they would fall in love. She would get him a job at the banks. And my dad just climbed

00:02:30.900 this American dream that everybody's just so yearning for when you're overseas. Like my dad

00:02:35.980 loved America. He studied like the train systems and the electronics. And like, he was like, this

00:02:40.180 is it. This is like God's country. And this was like in the eighties, nineties. Yeah, this is in

00:02:44.300 eighties. And so, so my dad would end up coming here to America. He would climb the corporate

00:02:49.840 ladder from a taxi cab driver. He would become the senior vice president of a bank on wall street

00:02:54.800 and he would run their entire cybersecurity metrics. And it was on September 11th of 2001.

00:03:01.220 My dad actually had went into the office and I was about three and a half at the time.

00:03:05.320 And the city was just in chaos. And this was in between the first plane and the second plane

00:03:10.880 hitting the twin towers but my dad would actually go up to the 34th floor of his building and him

00:03:16.500 and his entire team were watching this this like smoke brigade from the twin towers and my dad

00:03:22.480 actually saw the second plane hit the twin towers with his own eyes and the reason i'm bringing this

00:03:28.280 up because if you want to understand who i am my earliest identity was given to me six hours later

00:03:35.160 when my dad came home we didn't hear from him from six hours um i was watching the news everyone's

00:03:40.500 like what is Islam like I mean nobody really knew it was terrorism or Islam at the beginning of it

00:03:45.120 but people like what's happening like who is this there's accusations my dad came home and one of my

00:03:51.040 earliest memories was him saying to my older siblings my mom as well Shariq what kind of

00:03:58.380 Muslims are we going to be like we don't know what's happening but we need to prove to the 0.95

00:04:02.500 entire West that this is not what Islam is and when it came out that the motive behind it was a 0.96

00:04:07.880 terrorism group, that it was associated with Muslim, you know, ideologies, radical ideologies. 0.92

00:04:13.920 It was very clear that the fear of the Lord from a very young age came upon my life. And I was 0.75

00:04:18.020 sitting there watching the news the next few months. We lived in a blue collar city in New

00:04:21.700 York. So our city was a bunch of firefighters and policemen, first responders, and everyone

00:04:27.040 was treating us differently. Like after 9-11, it was very clear that my role in life was to be

00:04:32.780 the Western light of Islam. And so I was so passionate about Islamic faith. I loved it so

00:04:37.560 much. And that was an identity that I would carry all the way until college. I was known as this

00:04:42.560 Muslim kid. You know, I'd really come in and out of the faith a lot, but I truly loved God with all

00:04:47.120 my heart. I yearned for him. I prayed to him every single night. And you wanted people to know,

00:04:51.720 you felt passionate about people knowing like Islam isn't what you saw on 9-11. Exactly. It's 0.94

00:04:57.060 something different. It's something better than that. Yeah. Cause how do you harmonize that?

00:05:01.400 Right? Like my, my father is one of the most hardworking, most loving, most caring and

00:05:05.320 provider men I know but then Islam is right here and it's challenging our family directly and so 1.00

00:05:10.680 we have to prove that and we have a mandate to prove that like when we were in our mosques 1.00

00:05:14.520 getting discipled by our sheikhs and our scholars they were like we reference 9-11 a lot like this

00:05:20.060 is not what Islam is and our radical ideologies do not define us and you see that in the fruit with

00:05:26.080 all the Muslims I know here in our area our metroplex they're doctors and lawyers they're

00:05:31.500 the head of Baylor hospital and they're doing so many humanitarian things for this world. It's,

00:05:35.780 it's like, how do you harmonize this? And it felt like that target on our back was

00:05:39.740 our version of Christian persecution that like, now we can actually go out there

00:05:44.040 and we can prove like, Hey, this isn't who we are, but this is what we're actually about. 0.62

00:05:48.320 And it's actually an invitation to see the real Islam and the real Allah. That's going to be 0.59

00:05:51.860 the most merciful and most kind for all of humanity.

00:05:54.540 Would you say that is the general sentiment of Muslims in America today? And then especially

00:06:01.380 post 9-11 to say no we're not a part of that radical group because i think we've seen especially

00:06:06.040 after october 7th there seems to be some sympathy among muslims in america toward hamas or they it

00:06:14.120 seems like a lot of prominent muslims even you know momdani the mayor of new york won't come out

00:06:19.640 and say that there's a genocide going on against the israelis or something like that and i'm not

00:06:24.000 even trying to get into a conversation about geopolitics but i'm just curious what you think

00:06:29.120 the general sentiment is about Islamic terrorism and about those Islamic groups abroad among

00:06:36.480 Muslims in America? Yeah. So a very big principle, I think that's discipled really well into the

00:06:42.520 Muslim generations are we have to separate Eastern Islam, like in that side of the world 1.00

00:06:47.740 and Western Islam. Like we are the 21st century Muslims. We know that Islam is a timeless religion 0.61

00:06:52.880 or so it says it is. We aren't the seventh century Arabs who are enforcing these radical ideologies.

00:06:57.440 so even with Mamdani like Mamdani is a Shia Muslim which is in my opinion you know I was a 0.70

00:07:02.420 Sunni Muslim which is a 90 majority sect of Islam there's like 1.5 billion of us I say that as if 0.83

00:07:07.380 I'm still in there yeah but you know even the Sunni Muslims are like you know Mamdani isn't

00:07:11.840 really a Muslim like he's more of a politician you know no Muslim would be parading around doing

00:07:16.500 LGBTQT giving it like a stamp of approval you know like I understand loving trans people and 0.96

00:07:21.000 loving people who aren't in your religion but him like enforcing and actually parading certain

00:07:26.060 ideas the entire like conservative islamic population which is majority of us we're all

00:07:32.520 looking at him very concerned we're like this guy is actually not a muslim and it's funny that people

00:07:36.260 people try to say that he's lying to us about his islamic agenda but the reality is i just see him

00:07:42.140 as an extremely lukewarm muslim yeah that's that's i think with the majority opinion as well that he's

00:07:46.080 a politician that he needs to grow in his faith and he needs to get more convicted which if he 0.82

00:07:50.280 doesn't want to keep the muslim majority vote behind him he's gonna have to get pretty radical

00:07:54.500 in terms of his ideas, which is just more of like a conservative American standpoint, too.

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00:09:09.920 growing up post 9 11 as a muslim you said that there was kind of this sense of persecution

00:09:20.820 did you really feel that or was that just something that you were kind of like a afraid

00:09:27.960 of like i don't want people to think badly of muslims or was there true hatred discrimination

00:09:33.820 that you experienced in new york yeah there was there's a lot i have a very particular story that

00:09:38.640 I was in kindergarten at the time and my teacher, I had gone to Pakistan to visit our family for a

00:09:43.580 bit. And our Pakistani family is amazing. There's like 80 first cousins there, like 30 more of me.

00:09:48.520 But when I had come back to my kindergarten class, my kindergarten teacher looked at me and said,

00:09:53.180 we wish you stayed over there. And like, we wish that you didn't come back because, you know,

00:09:57.520 it was, I think she maybe had somebody that was lost in 9-11. And so I was one of the only Muslim

00:10:01.840 kids in my year that time. And so it was very, very prominent. And if it wasn't direct, it was

00:10:06.540 very like subconscious in terms of people are just reacting to us and nobody knows how to trust us 0.99

00:10:11.560 and it made us just triple down on our identity it made us study the quran harder it made us

00:10:17.100 try to understand the hadith the like the teachings of muhammad to understand these end times to

00:10:21.520 understand how we as muslims can implement this global mandate of we want to make everybody muslim

00:10:27.580 so people think muslims are lying about that too i'm like we're not lying about anything like the

00:10:30.960 muslims are saying everyone should become muslim no matter what and that's like an end time sign 0.78

00:10:36.240 That's an end times prophecy that Muhammad gave us. 1.00

00:10:38.720 And so, you know, I'm stepping back into this lens of Islam and I'm saying, of course it happened. 1.00

00:10:43.360 Of course it happened. 1.00

00:10:44.300 Of course they're persecuting us.

00:10:45.420 Of course they're treating us differently.

00:10:46.900 And the truth was, as a Muslim, we were so dependent on Islam because we actually had a guarantee of salvation.

00:10:55.060 We all believe in Islam and Islamic theology that Muhammad would actually come back and intercede on the day of judgment. 0.68

00:10:59.980 and that through that, he would actually save all the Muslims who just said,

00:11:04.040 la ilaha illallah, that Allah is the one God.

00:11:06.420 And that was our assurance salvation.

00:11:09.180 So this 2 billion person religion that's so strong and so prominent

00:11:12.740 that's coming into America at record speeds now,

00:11:15.520 they have so much power and faith.

00:11:17.340 It's like, how do we handle that?

00:11:19.020 Like, what's our role as a church?

00:11:20.400 And what do we do there as well?

00:11:22.360 And you moved to Texas when you were 12.

00:11:24.240 What was that like?

00:11:24.920 it was fascinating because nobody really knew what islam was like in new york it was everywhere

00:11:32.040 i come to texas and my high school i think was like 93 percent white and i was like okay like

00:11:37.600 it's like a fresh start like everyone just sees us as like the good muslims as they said in the

00:11:40.860 texas accent and it didn't really feel like we were all that persecuted anymore it was like a

00:11:47.080 fresh start i could focus on school i could become excellent i can live out my islamic faith we had

00:11:51.800 our own mosques we could practice our own beliefs we had our own you know societies almost and we

00:11:57.680 could just be in that and it was so peaceful and so it was kind of like a breath of fresh air i was

00:12:01.960 like yeah it's amazing and texas is so fruitful um muslims actually really do align with conservative

00:12:06.980 ideology so that's i mean tons of them are coming here because texas is just an amazing place to

00:12:11.240 live and we're one of those families we really loved it yeah and so you continue to be a devout

00:12:17.400 Muslim, basically in a Muslim, a Muslim apologist, a Muslim evangelist, you wanted people to become

00:12:22.900 Muslim. And then you went to college in the Dallas area at a college where a lot of Muslims go.

00:12:29.160 Yeah. And actually one of the biggest MSAs, Muslim student associations is at the University

00:12:33.500 of Texas at Dallas, which is where I went. And I went as an insecure Muslim kid who was challenged

00:12:39.340 so much in his faith, who my identity was proving Islam. And when I had gotten to college, I realized 0.94

00:12:45.720 I broke out of indoctrination because in Islam we have this chain of command if I had any issue 0.99

00:12:50.440 I would go to my parents they would go to their mom and then they would go to the sheikhs and the

00:12:54.380 scholars who would say you know under sharia law this is how you operate this is how you act

00:12:58.060 and so there was never really a time for me to be challenged in my beliefs and I was actually

00:13:02.820 known as this Muslim kid who I would argue and really I've had to repent for this tear away the

00:13:09.200 faith of a lot of my Christian fraternity brothers because I was just like so insecure I was so

00:13:14.360 insecure and my ideology what do you mean by that tear away their faith that i would challenge them

00:13:18.600 i would i was trained and all muslims are trained on this now muslims are very devout we were trained 0.80

00:13:23.400 to surgically handle all of the truth claims in the old testament and the new testament 0.78

00:13:27.320 in the quran it says those who say trinity are blaspheming and that is amongst the worst sin

00:13:33.220 to make something like the trinity equal to god that god would never become a man they completely

00:13:38.320 denied the theology of theophanies which we can get into in a second but even the crucifixion

00:13:43.400 claim that it wasn't really christ on the sorry christ on the cross yeah all of that was drilled

00:13:50.300 into us from a young age when i learned that argument when i was in like third grade and so

00:13:53.820 seeing it in real time and challenging muslims on their faith sorry challenging christians on

00:13:57.400 their faith attacking the new testament attacking paul attacking the transmission attacking you know

00:14:02.780 the 40 different gospels not just the main four that made it in the bible but using all of those

00:14:06.880 together that's what we were surgically trained on doing and the truth was i was winning because

00:14:11.200 it's like what 19 year old is trained on how to handle Islamic apologetics and

00:14:15.600 polemics towards Christianity. 0.98

00:14:17.100 Like none of them were. 1.00

00:14:18.220 Yeah.

00:14:18.620 And so my opinion was my opinion.

00:14:20.740 My,

00:14:21.040 my standard was if I'm just 1% more confident in my faith,

00:14:25.420 if I just win one more argument than my Christian brothers,

00:14:28.600 I'm good.

00:14:29.200 And I'm Muslim.

00:14:29.840 And eventually when they're 80,

00:14:31.500 maybe they'll come to Islam because of a seed I planted. 0.98

00:14:33.680 Wow. 0.99

00:14:34.180 Yeah.

00:14:34.360 Yeah.

00:14:34.580 It sounds a lot like what Christian evangelists feel about planting seeds.

00:14:38.320 That's where I get it from.

00:14:39.240 Yeah.

00:14:39.600 Yeah. And you say that you were insecure, but that was manifesting itself in apologetics and

00:14:45.800 evangelism. Can you talk more about that? Yeah, I was absolutely obsessed with it. I mean,

00:14:49.720 every day I was, you know, I was playing college rugby. I was doing, you know, I was a 3.4 GPA.

00:14:54.840 I was a pretty okay student, but in all my free time, I would just go home and just study

00:15:00.560 apologetics. I mean, there was a point where it was two or three hours, almost every single night

00:15:04.320 i had free in college for four or five years i was like this is everything to me and this is the

00:15:10.700 moment it happened by trying to read the bible by going through the old testament by going through

00:15:16.720 the new testament trying to debunk it and reading my quran side by side and i've read the quran so

00:15:22.020 many times now i'm reading them side by side and i'm like i don't even know i can't defend this like

00:15:28.080 i can't defend my quran anymore and that was just so heartbreaking because i'm praying i'm really

00:15:32.540 holding the quran like praying into it there's a surah i think it's surah 67 or 68 called al mut

00:15:37.300 and like that surah is gonna like intercede for you on the day of judgment um in islamic belief

00:15:41.680 and i'm praying that surah over and over and over and i'm like what's happening you know what was

00:15:47.380 it that you felt that you couldn't defend in the quran so it was it was just how different it was

00:15:55.780 that the quran is claiming to stand on the authority of scripture that it's claiming to be

00:16:00.120 the final revelation like the updated iphone of the god of jacob isaac and abraham and just

00:16:06.960 reading it side by side and i would love to show you these differences because you're going to see

00:16:10.580 it and i pray that it just like ruins you for evangelizing muslims i think it will um but

00:16:16.000 reading it in a good way in a great way yeah in the best way possible yeah like your heart will

00:16:19.800 change completely for that ruined for the gospel kind of a way yeah um but i'm reading it and i'm

00:16:25.720 just like there's no way this thing can be corrupted and i'm looking at all the archaeological

00:16:29.760 evidence. I'm looking at the crucifixion evidence. And the way I describe it is like there's this

00:16:33.920 plastic bag that I'm holding and the crucifixion evidence is one rock and all the New Testament

00:16:38.020 stuff is one rock and all the Old Testament theology, all the connections is just rock and

00:16:41.920 rock and rock. And eventually this plastic bag just breaks. It just rips right in half. And

00:16:47.500 in 2020, I was a senior in college and I actually decided to leave Islam, but I hadn't let Christ 0.99

00:16:53.580 heal me yet. I was like, honestly, just so agnostic. I was like, I don't want anything to do with any

00:16:58.480 religion i was so hurt from losing my identity in islam i didn't have to tell anybody and i just 1.00

00:17:03.280 got so into the world and i got you know hedonistic i was this young man who was zealous

00:17:08.440 who like was just so passionate about religion and i had no hole to like nothing to fill that

00:17:14.200 hole anymore with and i'll take you to this night because this is where i want to land the plane

00:17:19.140 it was november 1st it was 2022 and this was actually the time in my life where i was most

00:17:24.220 suicidal because I really had not figured out this religion thing.

00:17:28.640 And when the fear of the Lord comes on you at three and a half because of 9-11 and your

00:17:32.180 family, and now you're 24 and there's no identity that you can even grasp onto, Christ hasn't

00:17:38.260 come into my life and healed me yet.

00:17:39.460 I didn't really ask him to, I was lost.

00:17:43.340 And it's actually, this is my iPhone background that I read every so often when I need to

00:17:46.480 like kind of rejuvenize myself for the mission, you know, it's, I wrote this prayer and I

00:17:51.260 actually, in 2022, I actually reverted back to Islam on the night that I was most suicidal. 0.63

00:17:56.720 And this is what I said. I said, Allah, please save me. Why is my mind letting me down? I am so 0.94

00:18:03.280 numb and do not care about myself. Why can I not get my mind right? Every day is so painful.

00:18:08.980 Every moment is so harsh. I can't relax anymore. I can't see clearly anymore. I can't enjoy the

00:18:14.160 smallest things anymore. Why have I done this to myself? Please help. And this was the night I was

00:18:20.500 most suicidal. And despite leaving Islam two years later, I was ready to go all the way back 1.00

00:18:25.320 in. I felt like I owed it to my Muslim girlfriend who I had to leave. I felt like I owed it to my 1.00

00:18:29.760 Muslim community of doctors and lawyers who were mentoring me. I felt like I owed it to my mosque

00:18:34.680 where I can go there for anything I need. There's seven figure surgeons bowing their head down in

00:18:39.780 reverent prayer next to a homeless guy and their shoulder to shoulder. I loved it. I loved it so

00:18:44.660 much and I felt so disrespectful towards it and I was like Allah I'm so sorry like put me back in

00:18:51.000 and that was a night where I had a dream I had a dream and it was just so white and I heard the 0.56

00:18:58.200 words and I only knew it was Christ because my Christian friends were forcing me into Bible 0.54

00:19:02.300 studies and I was defending I was reading the New Testament trying to debunk it but I heard the

00:19:05.520 words like get up and go like you've been healed and so that was the first time I like recognized

00:19:10.480 Christ in my life and I knew it was his words I was like that's not a lot that's Christ and I

00:19:14.460 had this like feeling that it was Christ but I just couldn't prove it and so I had this emotional

00:19:19.360 experience this dream and I like I'm sitting there and I wake up and those words just pierced my soul

00:19:25.460 because I was sitting there and I was I was in my bed and I was waking up at like 2 p.m because I

00:19:30.800 was so depressed and anxious all the time and I was staying up till 4 a.m and like just trying to

00:19:36.080 work I was in my high school bedroom because I was getting into all this debt trying to be an

00:19:39.040 entrepreneur like nothing was working and for the first time in years I woke up and the light was

00:19:45.380 brighter and the pool in the backyard was a little bluer and I like hugged my mom a little tighter

00:19:49.540 and like the eggs tasted amazing in the morning and I just remember that dream and I'm like is

00:19:54.040 this Christ's grace and so that was when I made a decision to go all the way back in with Christ

00:19:59.520 I'm like I'm not gonna tell anybody about this I'm just gonna make sure that me and Christ are good

00:20:04.700 and that would be did you even know at that point what really that meant

00:20:08.740 no i had no clue i had no clue what i did know well from the christian side i had no clue from 0.68

00:20:15.660 a muslim side i knew that me leaving islam was the most blasphemous thing in the world and it's

00:20:21.360 actually a teaching in the quran that if you know the message of allah and you mislead people 0.64

00:20:27.360 you are responsible for their sins on the day of judgment and i'm like man if i went back to islam

00:20:32.460 I am screwed right now, for sure, because we're an evangelist. 0.91

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00:21:40.740 days later, and she would cry because I was wearing this Christian cross. When I told my dad

00:21:45.780 I wanted to be Christian, he almost swung at me. He was physically abusive, which there's so much

00:21:50.440 grace there. Like my dad was beat probably 15 times harder by his dad. And so I'm happy to

00:21:54.960 break that chain off my family. Um, and like love on him through that. Um, my brother and sister

00:22:00.740 all cried. It was like a four on one and they're like, shark, you're on drugs. You're being

00:22:04.380 manipulated. You're being, you know, Satan is in your ear. They, they're very passionate about

00:22:08.680 Shaytan or Satan. Like Satan has a grip on my son and they're like praying deliverance over me. 0.50

00:22:13.260 Like they're getting Christian on me. Right. And I remember all of this and I'm just thinking like 0.83

00:22:18.840 there's this unshakable conviction in my soul that Christ is Lord.

00:22:23.160 And I knew it because I'm just debunking the Quran over and over in my head.

00:22:26.960 But I'm like, how do I prove it? 0.99

00:22:28.560 And I told my parents about this dream and like Muslims believe in dreams. 1.00

00:22:31.720 And this is something I really stand against. 1.00

00:22:33.480 It's a principle of our ministry. 0.95

00:22:35.020 You know, everyone is like, hey, we need to pray for dreams and visions in the Muslim world.

00:22:39.200 And as a Muslim who has had a dream and vision of Christ, like that's not a good excuse. 0.63

00:22:44.080 Like Christ said, pray for more laborers to be sent out because the harvest is plenty, 0.89

00:22:48.040 but the laborers are few. He didn't say, lay your hands on a globe and pray for more dreams and

00:22:51.780 visions. Like, I love it when the Holy Spirit moves. I love it because he did for me, but we

00:22:55.960 can't use that as a crutch anymore. We have to like actually understand the Quran at a level

00:23:00.060 that they don't even have to and win them over by reasoning off their scriptures.

00:23:03.700 So 2022, that's when you felt suicidal. You prayed to Allah. You had the vision of Christ

00:23:10.640 and you felt then that you kind of became a Christian. You said that you bought the Christian 0.61

00:23:14.040 cross. You told your family, Hey, I think I'm a Christian. You didn't totally know exactly what

00:23:17.680 looked like. You knew Islam was wrong. You knew that Christ had something for you. So before we 1.00

00:23:24.220 get to two years later, what did the next two years look like? Were you going to church? Did

00:23:28.740 you join a Bible study? Were you reading the Bible? Or was it just kind of the vague sense of like,

00:23:33.320 okay, I want to be good with Christ, but I don't know what that looks like.

00:23:36.080 Totally the vague sense. I didn't enter a church until late 2024 because I was trained to hate the

00:23:44.520 church like the church was the most blasphemous thing in the world to me i would never step foot

00:23:48.300 in there despite me believing in christ i also had a lot of churcher you know my christian friends 1.00

00:23:52.180 were not great exemplary christians by any means and my muslim friends were you know they were

00:23:57.260 actually more christian than i think the christian friends i had were so it was really just me and

00:24:03.020 just idolizing work and keeping to myself and just the grace of the lord on this this two years

00:24:10.100 like plan in my life because he just kept me so hidden and he kept me so like treasured and

00:24:16.100 it was basically just me and my bible it was me and my bible for two years straight

00:24:19.800 and just being in the world not engaging but of course i felt extremely disobedient because i 0.91

00:24:26.200 have this ex-muslim testimony i know how to handle the quran i know how to remove it as an authority 0.83

00:24:31.100 in muslim's lives to pave a way for the gospel and i'm studying it and i know it but i remember 0.92

00:24:36.760 I remember I reading the Bible and reading the scripture that the world will hate you for saying

00:24:40.480 my name is what Christ said and I was like man the world really loves me I'm just like that good

00:24:45.180 boy Christian and I'm still showing up to the parties I you know I'm still kind of lukewarm 0.81

00:24:48.860 I'm not in the church I'm friends with everybody I have this ex-Muslim testimony that's like in my

00:24:53.340 heart but I'm not sharing it with anybody and my whole family's Muslim and I wake up every day 0.85

00:24:58.840 thinking if Genesis 1-1 is true Islam is the biggest satanic stronghold on our people today

00:25:05.340 there's two billion Muslims, the largest unreached people group. And I just like kept shoving that 1.00

00:25:10.340 down and down and down until actually another piece of scripture, Jeremiah 20 verse nine, like

00:25:15.780 that the fire, like me wanting to talk about the Lord was like a fire in my bones. I grew

00:25:20.720 weary holding it in until I couldn't anymore. And eventually just like exploded out. So it was years

00:25:26.720 of that. I look back in hindsight, I'm like, Oh, that was just secret place time. But in the moment

00:25:31.680 it was just muddy and bloody. And I was deconstructing my Muslim identity without 1.00

00:25:36.180 really having any accountability. And I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I really wouldn't 0.92

00:25:40.700 because like, you got to be strong, man. You got to be so strong to do that.

00:25:46.400 Okay. So to 2024, you said February of 2024, what happened then?

00:25:51.620 So I was once again, so skeptical of the church and I was definitely not as charismatic as I am

00:25:57.560 now but I was at this prayer retreat and it was just me and maybe 15 of my friends and we were

00:26:03.100 just praying in a circle and my buddy he felt called to pray over me and he just like laid his

00:26:10.460 hand on me and I had never told him about my suicidal thoughts that had been like rampant in

00:26:14.700 my deconstruction phase but he laid his hand on me and he's like we're just gonna pray off the

00:26:19.940 spirit of suicide off you and your family and for the first time ever like I am like so skeptical

00:26:25.400 I try to be so logical.

00:26:26.800 I was on the floor.

00:26:28.480 Like I felt like 10,000 pounds were on my shoulders.

00:26:30.580 And then I don't even remember what he prayed,

00:26:32.500 but he was praying on me.

00:26:33.640 And it was maybe like 40 seconds.

00:26:35.860 And I just like, once again,

00:26:37.280 felt that like this lightness come up after this prayer.

00:26:40.040 And I'm still, you know, I'm,

00:26:41.820 it was just 2024.

00:26:42.660 So I've only been a believer for maybe two years,

00:26:44.060 like seriously.

00:26:45.300 So I'm still wrestling with it a lot,

00:26:46.580 but I'm like, was that like deliverance?

00:26:48.220 Was that like casting a demon out of me?

00:26:50.020 Like, is that going to still happen?

00:26:50.920 I don't know.

00:26:53.040 But it felt like it was,

00:26:54.080 I don't have a better answer for it, honestly, but that when that demon was casted out of me,

00:26:57.920 that spirit of suicide, same thing. Like I felt that lightness and that grace in my life. And I

00:27:02.140 was like, Christ, like you have delivered me like hallelujah. And that's what really lit my fire

00:27:08.060 for now public evangelism. So that was in 2024. Now this next year is very crucial from 2024.

00:27:16.880 This is February, 2024. I now I enter the church. I have discipleship. I'm in community. I joined a

00:27:24.060 much in the faith. Little thought in the back of my head. I'm an ex-Muslim. There's 2 billion

00:27:29.560 Muslims. There's 2 billion Christians and no one's talking about it. No one has a solution. I'm like, 0.99

00:27:33.340 what are we doing guys? So this was April of 2025, actually almost one year ago today. So we're

00:27:39.280 celebrating our one year anniversary of our ministry, which is really exciting. I picked my

00:27:43.060 parents up from Saudi Arabia. They went to Mecca to do the Muslim pilgrimage. And my mom, you know,

00:27:48.180 I throw my dad in the passenger seat. I throw my mom in the backseat. I throw their luggage in the 1.00

00:27:50.960 back of my car and I'm looking at my mom through the rear view mirror and this like she's explaining 0.82

00:27:57.980 her experience she's like it's so dangerous all the Muslims were pushing past her she has this 0.99

00:28:01.340 like torn MCL they're pushing past her to go get close to the Kaaba touch the Kaaba kiss the Kaaba 1.00

00:28:06.180 and and what's the Kaaba the Kaaba is the big black cube in Saudi Arabia that the Muslims circle 0.57

00:28:11.680 that they believe that Abraham and Ishmael made and if you're we'll talk about that in a second

00:28:15.600 if you're engaging Muslims in their faith you have to talk about the Kaaba it is like the pillar of

00:28:20.020 islam it's one of the pillars of islam actually to go there and perform this this ritual so 0.99

00:28:25.940 she's at the kaaba and it's so dangerous my dad had to like put her his arms around her so that 0.98

00:28:31.280 people stop shoving her and it's like pinnacle of islamic theology and spiritual experience and

00:28:37.220 like reverence for god she's sitting there and i look at her in the mirror and the same spiritual

00:28:42.200 death that i saw in my own eyes i recognized in my own mother my heart just completely shatters

00:28:48.640 and that very night i remember going home and saying a very simple repentance prayer i said

00:28:56.540 lord i repent for being a good boy christian i call it like the khaki pant wearing christians

00:29:03.120 like the guys that just really aren't making anybody mad at them for speaking of jesus i had

00:29:08.040 this ex-muslim testimony that i was so passionate about that i just wasn't sharing with anybody 0.69

00:29:12.580 and I repented I said Lord please just add me to the body of Christ that is responsible for ending 0.96

00:29:19.760 all false religions one sentence and I went to bed that Friday was actually good Friday 0.93

00:29:26.280 and I just felt this insane conviction in my soul to launch something do something about it 0.94

00:29:33.120 that was the day I started my first YouTube video and that very first YouTube video ends up just

00:29:37.800 exploding on the internet and the ministry that we started today has come off of that so that was

00:29:43.380 april 18th our first youtube video and we're celebrating our one year anniversary of that

00:29:46.960 video with the whole team and since then that's turned into a global content machine it started

00:29:54.560 our ministry we now have almost 10 000 people in over 100 different countries learning the master

00:29:59.140 key which i'll talk to you about in a second it's our apologetic system to reach the most devout

00:30:02.820 Muslims and the Instagram brand exploded. And now all of a sudden I'm thrusted to the front lines of

00:30:09.040 Muslim revival. And there's like a real burden to save the 7 million Muslims here in the West.

00:30:16.120 It's only 1.5% of our population. I think if we save them now, yesterday really is what I needed 1.00

00:30:21.880 to happen. Then they'll be the ones to go spread the gospel to all of the 53 Muslim majority 1.00

00:30:28.960 countries it doesn't have to be american missionaries anymore we focus on america as a

00:30:32.440 mission trip i really feel like that's the key because i know if my dad comes to christ

00:30:39.140 his first inclination is oh the 80 plus first cousins we have in pakistan they need to know

00:30:44.260 they've been misled and he'll go back and he speaks the language he has the passports he has

00:30:48.580 the authority to go over there and i think it's so prophetic it's like the entire conservative

00:30:52.680 movement is saying deport the muslims i was at amfest some people were saying like we should 1.00

00:30:56.180 just kill all of them. I'm like, what are you guys talking about? Why don't we just make them 1.00

00:30:59.580 Christian? Like, when did we become so incapable? If we can't defend our faith against Muslims, 1.00

00:31:04.880 we shouldn't, like, maybe we should just become Muslim if they're that persuasive. 0.99

00:31:08.780 So tell me about sharing the gospel with Muslims. And we might not all know, 0.95

00:31:14.420 because most of the audience is not Muslim, exactly what you're talking about, but we want

00:31:17.040 to know. We want to learn about all you're talking about, the inconsistencies, where to go with them.

00:31:21.920 we want to know more about islam so we can be effective evangelists so tell us let's do it okay

00:31:26.880 so the key principle is we have to use a biblical scripture approach so it's so easy to come at 0.89

00:31:33.580 morality claims we can call muhammad certain words we can say he's a warlord a pedophile we can come

00:31:38.500 at their politics none of it is persuasive to muslim if you guys learn one thing from me two 0.95

00:31:43.600 things first we have to use what's persuasive to muslims not to christians so as christians it's 0.94

00:31:49.880 very easy to get in this echo chamber of hearing, you know, Islam isn't compatible with the West, 0.81

00:31:54.180 Sharia law needs to be banned. I don't know a single Muslim who looks at that and is like,

00:31:57.880 oh, you know, that's a really convincing argument. And I'm going to go and leave my faith. We have 1.00

00:32:01.800 to do one thing and that's undermine the authority of the Quran. This is the only thing we need to 1.00

00:32:07.300 worry about. Nothing else matters. This book has authority over 2 billion people that are still

00:32:14.340 made in the image of God. Sharia law, politics, wives, moral code, ethics, everything comes

00:32:20.920 from this. So if we can remove this, that they think this is the divine word of God,

00:32:25.440 if we get this out of the way, straight path to the gospel.

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00:33:46.680 But Matthew 23, 15 says this. It says, woe to you, the Pharisees who travel land and sea just

00:33:51.460 to make one single convert. You make them twice the son of Satan that you are. And in the church,

00:33:55.980 what we're doing is, I don't think he's just talking to the Pharisees. He's saying, Christ

00:34:00.700 is calling us sons of Satan because we're ripping away people's faith away from Christ. And what

00:34:05.420 we're doing as a church right now is we're deconstructing islam but we're not reconstructing 1.00

00:34:09.720 biblical foundations and you end up with a bunch of sharks who by the grace of god i got saved 0.99

00:34:14.180 but i was agnostic for years and i almost took my own life like we don't have that we can't have 0.78

00:34:19.860 that we can't have muslim to atheist muslim to agnostic we can't have muslim to new age none

00:34:25.000 of that it needs to be muslim to christian yeah so how do we do that we need to deconstruct 0.95

00:34:30.460 the quran using only the bible specifically this the torah the torah is the key and i'm going to 1.00

00:34:38.580 show you i'm just going to read you a few stories and i want you to tell me what stands out to you

00:34:43.500 so this is surah 28 this is in the quran and this is actually it's like a chapter verse chapter okay

00:34:49.820 yeah think of it like genesis like genesis yeah and so surah and then verse or ayah is what muslims

00:34:54.700 would say but for this case it's surah 28 verse 26 to 29 i'm going to read this to you you tell

00:34:59.180 me what stands out. So this is Moses getting married at the well of Midian. It says, Oh,

00:35:04.380 my two daughters. Sorry. Oh, one of my two daughters suggested, Oh, my dear father,

00:35:09.580 hire him. A strong, trustworthy person is definitely the best to hire. The old man

00:35:14.500 proposed to Moses. I wish to marry one of these two daughters of mine to you, provided that you

00:35:19.600 stay in my service for eight years. If you complete 10, it'll be a favor from you.

00:35:24.340 But I do not wish to make it difficult for you. God willing, you'll find me an agreeable man.

00:35:27.960 Moses responded

00:35:29.280 Then it is settled

00:35:30.180 Whichever term I fulfill

00:35:31.520 There will be no further obligation on me

00:35:33.540 And God is a witness to what we say

00:35:35.080 When Moses had completed the term

00:35:37.320 And was traveling with his family

00:35:39.200 He spotted a fire on the side of Mount Tur

00:35:41.640 That's the burning bush

00:35:42.440 Did anything stand out to you in that story?

00:35:46.620 Who was the Israelite

00:35:48.600 Who had to serve two terms for his wives? 0.74

00:35:51.640 Jacob

00:35:52.020 It was Jacob

00:35:52.560 Was it Moses?

00:35:54.100 No

00:35:54.380 How many daughters did Jethro have?

00:35:56.360 This is a very niche Bible question

00:35:57.940 I don't know if I know.

00:35:59.380 So he had seven.

00:36:00.480 We also know it's Jacob's story conflated with Moses because at the very end, it says,

00:36:04.360 when Moses had completed the term and was traveling with his family, he spotted a fire,

00:36:08.800 the burning bush.

00:36:09.920 But we know in Genesis 30, Jacob is the one that says, give me my wives and children after

00:36:15.120 I fulfill my term and I'll be on my way.

00:36:17.340 So what's happening? 0.97

00:36:18.700 This divine word of God, the Muslims are claiming our scriptures are corrupted. 0.99

00:36:23.400 In 2026, the Christian scriptures are corrupted.

00:36:26.560 They're claiming that our Bible, Old Testament and new are completely corrupted, totally wrong.

00:36:30.760 And in 2026, we have let them get away with that claim way too much.

00:36:35.460 Specifically, how is it corrupted?

00:36:37.920 They're saying that we made up the story of Jacob with Rachel and Leah, that we made it up.

00:36:42.980 It was actually Moses.

00:36:44.040 And so we actually corrupted Exodus 2 now, that Moses was actually with his family.

00:36:47.960 Now he's not with his family.

00:36:49.040 We changed seven daughters to two daughters.

00:36:52.880 We changed, I mean, what else in there, right?

00:36:55.620 the service terms that Jacob served for a wife.

00:36:57.380 No, no, no.

00:36:57.660 It was actually Moses.

00:36:59.120 They're saying that the Jews corrupted

00:37:00.040 all of those scriptures all throughout time. 1.00

00:37:03.120 Let's keep going.

00:37:03.900 This is in every single story.

00:37:06.060 And the Quran obviously was written

00:37:08.180 many centuries after the Torah was written.

00:37:13.760 And so, and yet they claim that,

00:37:16.180 is this inspired?

00:37:17.360 This might be a very like fundamental question,

00:37:20.060 but they believe that the Quran is inspired by Muhammad,

00:37:23.580 that Muhammad is one who wrote the Quran?

00:37:26.720 Great question. 0.89

00:37:27.360 Okay. 0.73

00:37:27.680 So Muhammad was illiterate. 1.00

00:37:29.180 It's actually a miracle in Islam 1.00

00:37:30.860 that Muhammad couldn't read or write 0.96

00:37:33.720 and that he's actually getting all these stories 0.98

00:37:35.680 of the Old Testament correct.

00:37:37.540 And that's a miracle.

00:37:38.500 It's like proof of his prophethood.

00:37:40.120 Okay.

00:37:40.900 And what is it verified against?

00:37:44.220 Like we can look at the Old Testament

00:37:46.660 and we can look at archeology

00:37:48.620 and we can look at different historical documents

00:37:51.560 at the time that existed in addition to the Torah.

00:37:54.400 And we can say, okay, like these things are checking out. 0.94

00:37:56.920 Are there verification processes that Muslims have to say, okay, no, it really was Moses 0.89

00:38:02.920 and not Jacob? 0.99

00:38:04.140 Yes.

00:38:04.600 So that's a fascinating question.

00:38:06.240 And you're kind of asking like, well, where are these stories really coming from?

00:38:09.080 Like what other source?

00:38:10.060 Yeah.

00:38:10.260 I'm going to get there because I want to build a really, that's a great question.

00:38:12.580 That means you got the apologetics down to a T.

00:38:14.380 Okay.

00:38:14.920 I'm going to get there because I'm going to build a cumulative case for you.

00:38:16.980 And then I'm going to really land the plane for you.

00:38:18.220 Okay.

00:38:18.460 Awesome.

00:38:18.760 Okay.

00:38:19.280 This is Surah 2, verse 249.

00:38:21.260 Tell me what stands out with this one.

00:38:22.740 When Saul, so this is Saul versus Goliath, okay?

00:38:26.020 David and Goliath.

00:38:27.180 When Saul marched forth with his army, he cautioned,

00:38:29.980 God will test you with a river.

00:38:31.760 So whoever drinks his fill from it is not with me.

00:38:34.200 And whoever does not taste it except for a sip from the hollow of his hands is definitely with me.

00:38:39.060 They all drank their fill except for a few.

00:38:41.540 When he and the remaining faithful crossed the river, they said,

00:38:44.320 now we're no match for Goliath, but those who believed were certain that they would meet God.

00:38:48.880 and they reasoned how many times

00:38:50.740 has a force vanquished a mighty army

00:38:52.780 by the will of God.

00:38:54.220 So Saul's army went to advance Goliath

00:38:56.400 and his warriors.

00:38:57.260 They prayed, showered us with perseverance.

00:38:59.320 They defeated Goliath's army by God's will.

00:39:02.660 And then David killed Goliath.

00:39:05.300 And then David was immediately blessed with kingship.

00:39:07.480 That's the next line.

00:39:08.420 Okay.

00:39:09.200 What's that out there for you?

00:39:10.520 A few things.

00:39:11.680 Yeah.

00:39:12.140 Well, a few things.

00:39:13.060 Obviously, David didn't automatically become king.

00:39:16.060 Saul wasn't happy that that whole thing happened.

00:39:18.600 he was afraid that David was going to take his throne, all of that stuff.

00:39:21.680 Right, exactly.

00:39:22.620 So, and then also wasn't David and Goliath a 1v1 and then they got inspired?

00:39:26.060 Yeah, right.

00:39:26.460 And then that first part, who was the Israelite? 0.77

00:39:29.500 He was a judge who tested his army with a river and they had to lap like dogs and sit 0.67

00:39:34.580 from the hollow of his hands.

00:39:35.520 Was that Saul?

00:39:36.840 Hmm, no.

00:39:37.700 He had 30,000 people that got whittled down to 300.

00:39:40.160 Yeah.

00:39:40.560 It was Gideon.

00:39:41.360 Yeah.

00:39:41.720 It's the Gideon 300 in Judges 7.

00:39:44.380 That was Saul?

00:39:45.720 How did that end up in the Quran?

00:39:47.180 Right.

00:39:47.420 And why?

00:39:49.540 Okay.

00:39:49.980 That's my story.

00:39:50.800 I can't let go of that question.

00:39:51.920 Like, why would we change these?

00:39:53.500 It's like you keep the same stories,

00:39:54.820 but you just change the characters.

00:39:56.320 It's interesting.

00:39:57.100 I have an intense theory on that

00:39:58.300 that I really want to land with you.

00:39:59.620 I'll tell you why

00:40:00.200 after I do a few more examples.

00:40:01.580 No, go ahead.

00:40:02.080 Okay.

00:40:02.420 This one to me is absolutely insane. 1.00

00:40:04.820 The Muslims will say your Bible is corrupted. 1.00

00:40:06.720 I'm saying specifically how. 0.98

00:40:08.800 This is Surah 17, verse 101.

00:40:10.980 How many plagues were in the Bible?

00:40:13.840 There were nine plagues.

00:40:15.000 There's 10.

00:40:15.560 There were 10.

00:40:16.180 10 plagues.

00:40:16.520 The 10th, the 10th one was the, the firstborn dying of Passover.

00:40:19.520 Exactly, yes, so the 10th one was the most important one, okay? 0.64

00:40:22.520 17 verse 101, we surely gave Moses nine clear signs.

00:40:27.520 And two of those were the hand in the shirt and I believe the serpent getting thrown down.

00:40:30.520 So there's seven plagues in the Quran.

00:40:32.520 Guess which plague they conveniently leave out? 0.92

00:40:35.520 The 10th one?

00:40:36.520 Yeah, the death of the firstborn, the Passover lamb, the blood on the doorposts,

00:40:39.520 the angel passing over.

00:40:41.520 They conveniently leave that out.

00:40:43.520 So when they're saying our Bible is corrupted, our scripture is corrupted,

00:40:46.520 the Passover is mentioned 70 plus times all throughout since Exodus through the

00:40:52.520 New Testament. They're saying that the Jews just made that up, that they still 1.00

00:40:57.580 believe it today, that we just added it in scripture for fun, for giggles. That's 0.95

00:41:01.880 what they're claiming when they say our Bible is corrupted. Like let's press them

00:41:04.200 on this. You're saying our scripture is corrupted. Let's defend it. Let me give

00:41:07.780 you a really funny one. Okay. Who adopted Moses? Do you know that one? Miriam. Well,

00:41:13.120 No, Miriam was his sister, correct?

00:41:16.080 Okay, the daughter. 0.74

00:41:17.480 The daughter of Pharaoh.

00:41:18.880 I don't remember her name.

00:41:20.100 I don't remember her name either.

00:41:21.080 I'm still a new Christian, so give me grace on that one.

00:41:22.660 No, you know a lot about your brother.

00:41:23.920 I don't remember the Pharaoh's daughter's name

00:41:26.760 who picked him up out of the river,

00:41:28.780 but it was Miriam who was his sister.

00:41:31.360 So in the biblical account, it's in Exodus 2,

00:41:34.560 Pharaoh's daughter went down to the Nile

00:41:36.500 and Moses was, I think, in the basket

00:41:38.040 and she found him and rescued him and said,

00:41:39.500 hey, we should adopt him.

00:41:40.320 So even the littlest details, Pharaoh's daughter to Pharaoh's wife, have you seen the Prince

00:41:57.640 of Egypt movie?

00:41:58.640 Yeah.

00:41:59.640 Okay. 0.89

00:42:00.640 In the Prince of Egypt, they have Pharaoh's wife adopting Moses and everyone in the Christian 0.78

00:42:04.460 scene was like, wasn't it Pharaoh's daughter?

00:42:06.180 Like, why did they get that detail wrong? 0.65

00:42:07.780 It's a Muslim movie.

00:42:08.780 They get it from the Quran.

00:42:10.040 Yeah, the Pharaoh's wife details in the Quran. 0.93

00:42:12.040 The Prince of Egypt is a Muslim movie?

00:42:13.400 They use Muslim theology.

00:42:14.740 They use Muslim scripture.

00:42:16.080 I had no idea about that. 1.00

00:42:16.900 Isn't that hilarious?

00:42:18.100 Wow.

00:42:18.620 So whoever made that movie

00:42:19.300 might have been really misled 1.00

00:42:20.220 or they're just a Muslim.

00:42:21.100 I had no idea.

00:42:22.020 Okay, that's so interesting.

00:42:23.300 Yeah.

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00:43:33.440 There are thousands of differences here that end up in the Quran.

00:43:38.500 The most prominent ones, and this is the kill shot, the story of Joseph, because you're

00:43:43.360 asking where these stories come from?

00:43:44.860 Why was it changed in this way?

00:43:46.660 What's the motive?

00:43:48.060 This is Surah 12.

00:43:49.980 And this one's really important because we use this in our ministry a lot in treat evangelism.

00:43:53.700 This is the story of faking Joseph's death.

00:43:56.580 And when they presented the bloody robe to Jacob, his father, the Quran says this,

00:44:00.900 then the brothers returned to their father in the evening weeping and they cried our father

00:44:06.540 we went racing and left joseph with our belongings and a wolf devoured him but you won't believe us

00:44:11.680 no matter how truthful we are they brought his shirt stained with false blood and jacob responded

00:44:16.220 no your souls must have tempted you to do something evil so i can only endure with

00:44:21.100 beautiful patience it's with god help god's help that i seek to bear your claims so let me summarize

00:44:25.380 what's happening the brothers come home in the evening weeping they make a claim they hand him

00:44:29.840 the shirt and they say, Jacob, you're not going to believe us, but Joseph was devoured by a wolf

00:44:34.980 and Jacob in the Quran doesn't believe him. He says, no, no, Joseph is alive. And I know that.

00:44:41.440 And I can just only bear witness to what you say. And that's later corroborated in the Quranic

00:44:45.160 account. My favorite verse in Genesis is Genesis 37 verse 34. Jacob sees the reaction and he says,

00:44:53.960 Joseph has without doubt been torn to pieces.

00:44:57.220 Jacob knows for sure that Joseph is dead.

00:45:00.660 Very minute difference.

00:45:02.460 But in the Quran, 1.00

00:45:03.900 it's a miracle that Muhammad can say 1.00

00:45:07.320 the entire story of Joseph, 1.00

00:45:09.120 word for word, bar for bar,

00:45:11.000 and he doesn't get it wrong.

00:45:12.240 He does it all in one go for 98 verses. 0.99

00:45:14.400 That's a miracle of Muhammad. 1.00

00:45:16.260 Guess how many differences there are 0.93

00:45:17.840 in the story of the Quran and the Torah

00:45:20.980 with the story of Joseph.

00:45:22.360 I don't know.

00:45:22.880 take a guess there's 98 verses in the in the Quran throw a number out there um 47 47 that's

00:45:30.420 a good number that was maybe four or five there's 944 wow differences in between the story of Joseph

00:45:37.320 in the Quran and the Torah wow and even the sheikhs like Dr. Yasir Qadhi who's the head of

00:45:42.080 Epic who I was with last Friday even he says it's a miracle that these stories are so similar

00:45:47.200 are they? Because that one detail change, Jacob knowing he's alive or dead, means that we

00:45:52.980 randomly corrupted all of Genesis 37 to 50, all of it. So what we're doing is we're pressing them

00:45:58.680 on it. Now, let me answer this question for you. Where are these stories coming from? I'm going to

00:46:03.380 build a case. This is a theory of mine. I think it's the strongest theory we have. Who is telling

00:46:08.200 these stories to Muhammad? Well, if you look at the landscape of Saudi Arabia, the Jews get kicked 0.98

00:46:14.620 out of the temple in 70 AD. They actually migrate south and they actually end up, you know, in the

00:46:19.680 7th century around Mecca, Medina, and Kabar. These are Saudi Arabian cities, okay? There's not a lot

00:46:25.120 of Christian influence there. A lot of these Jewish legends that they have, it's called Midrash 0.99

00:46:30.760 Judaism. Are you familiar with Midrash Judaism? So Midrash is basically ancient folklore that the

00:46:36.220 rabbinical Jews made to expand on the Torah stories. Those are rampant in the Quran. Muhammad

00:46:43.400 is hearing the stories from rabbinical jewish people who deny the messiah and it's ending up

00:46:47.800 in the quran i'll give you two pieces of proof interesting in surah 12 that story of joseph

00:46:53.880 jacob suddenly thinks joseph's alive despite the torah the torah very clearly says

00:47:00.280 jacob knows joseph is without doubt torn to pieces okay i'm trying to make it as entertaining as

00:47:04.360 possible because now we're getting deep deep apologetics no it's good in the jewish midrash

00:47:10.200 we have this oh I wish I had it with me we have this giant textbook it's called Legends of the

00:47:13.860 Jews it's written by it's compiled by Lewis Ginsburg and my team is like eating that thing

00:47:17.780 for breakfast like the more we read into it the more we're finding Quran similarities left and

00:47:21.180 right there's a story a commentary on the Torah that says you know Jacob knew Joseph was without

00:47:28.580 doubt torn to pieces but actually there's a rabbi that makes an interpretation saying but you know

00:47:33.300 because Jacob is you know a prophet of God which he is in Islam as well that he wouldn't know this

00:47:39.440 And it's actually impossible to mourn the death of somebody who's actually alive

00:47:44.360 And so Jacob actually knows that Joseph's alive that detail ends up in the Quran one more detail

00:47:50.420 This one's really good. Uh, this is surah 1267 to 68. Give me some grace here as I flip through our Quran's

00:47:59.820 Okay, this is the most

00:48:02.420 and for like the audience to you guys like

00:48:05.200 This is like making sense out of nonsense sometimes. So just bear with me

00:48:08.240 me there's a verse jacob is instructing his his sons to go through a different gate so the sewer

00:48:15.860 says this he then instructed them oh my sons do not enter the city all through one gate but go

00:48:22.060 through separate gates and he just says that one random sentence and there's no motive there's no

00:48:27.200 explanation and then he says it's only god who decides that exact same random passage is in the

00:48:35.780 Jewish legends from before the time of Muhammad that they're saying, Hey, Jacob is saying to his

00:48:42.000 brothers, sorry, to the, to the, to the, to the brothers do not enter from the same gate because

00:48:47.520 of how handsome you are. And then there's one more line and it says, lest the evil eye will smite you

00:48:53.740 and take advantage of you. So enter from one gate, leave through another gate, have a clean entrance

00:48:57.920 through the city gates, that city, sorry, that city, that story is in the Quran too. It's all

00:49:04.580 over the place. There's even more niche ones like disbelievers being transformed into apes. 1.00

00:49:08.900 That ends up in the Quran. Obviously not in our Torah. Rabbinical Jewish legend saying that that's 0.96

00:49:13.640 going to happen. So you believe that Muhammad was really influenced by the Jews and the Jewish

00:49:18.860 teaching of the time. He couldn't read it. He heard it. He tried to piece it together into 0.71

00:49:24.600 his own religion that sounded kind of like an Abrahamic religion. And Islam is typically 1.00

00:49:31.660 categorizes an Abrahamic religion, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. But are you saying that it's

00:49:37.780 kind of really not because it's not genuine? Right. There is one Abrahamic religion and it's

00:49:43.660 fulfilled in the Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ. Okay. So that's actually a good point. So the 0.94

00:49:48.400 claim that Islam has of how Muhammad is actually even related to Abraham is through the line of

00:49:53.500 Ishmael. But in Genesis 21 verses 1 through 21, Muhammad actually takes that story and he changes

00:50:00.100 it too? That they actually, Abraham casted out Hagar and Ishmael and they would end up wandering

00:50:06.900 in the desert of Beersheba, which is about 17 miles from Gerar, which is where Abraham resided.

00:50:11.420 That's Genesis 20 verse one. And that's near modern day Gaza. So from modern day Gaza to

00:50:15.920 Beersheba was the journey of Hagar and Ishmael. And he put a water on her shoulder. And when they

00:50:22.340 ran out of water, she stopped moving. Okay. Really normal story. And the question is like,

00:50:27.000 why did Hagar and Ishmael really even get cast out in the first place? It was because of the

00:50:31.540 mocking on Sarah's child, Isaac. Muhammad takes that story and he repurposes it to have Hagar 0.77

00:50:42.080 and Ishmael go 800 miles down to Mecca. And Ishmael is now an infant. So now they're saying

00:50:48.240 that we corrupted our scriptures that before Isaac was even born, Hagar and Ishmael got cast

00:50:53.080 out of the house. So that entire mocking narrative is removed. And that 17 mile journey from Gerar

00:50:58.940 to Beersheba is now Gerar to Mecca, 800 miles South. I'm like, really? They made that journey?

00:51:07.140 Are you serious? To a barren valley in the middle of nowhere on God's command? So even the claim

00:51:11.560 that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba, which then goes, it's even, oh my gosh, everything's

00:51:16.060 contradictory. It's insane. Even in Genesis 21 verse 21, it says that Hagar got Ishmael a wife

00:51:22.840 from Egypt. He twists that detail and he says, no, no, no, not Egypt. Muhammad says that Ishmael

00:51:28.880 got a wife from an Arabic tribe called Jerhom. And that's how he eventually got related to Ishmael.

00:51:36.040 So it's blaspheming the Torah. 0.79

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00:53:12.640 really make a difference. JoinADF.com slash Allie. So all these inconsistencies, I'm hearing that 0.74

00:53:22.660 Christians need to know our Old Testament really well. We need to understand the Torah. We need to

00:53:27.820 be able to press people on the inconsistencies. But for those who are like, okay, you know what?

00:53:33.300 I'm a busy mom of five. I've got a new mosque behind my house. I really just want to love those 0.89

00:53:39.100 people and share Christ with them, don't know if I'm going to become a scholar in the Quran.

00:53:44.720 Like what is a message of Christianity that would resonate with a Muslim that would at least make 0.89

00:53:51.420 them think, huh, like I've never heard that before. Like I remember, now I'm forgetting his 1.00

00:53:57.140 name, but he was an ex-Muslim pastor. You probably know who he is who died several years ago of

00:54:01.780 cancer. And he was talking about when he was seeking comfort and he was a Muslim and he was

00:54:06.540 looking for verses of comfort in the Quran. They're technically there, but they're not the

00:54:11.360 same as the Bible. And he was reading Jesus' Sermon on the Mount in Matthew, blessed are the

00:54:16.880 peacemakers, blessed are those who mourn for you will be comforted. And that really just was like,

00:54:21.620 oh my gosh, kind of like how you felt when you felt the light of Christ in that dream.

00:54:25.800 He read that and was like, that's what I'm looking for. Is there anything like that,

00:54:31.480 that you could tell a christian like hey if you're gonna go with a message say this go with

00:54:37.540 this angle yeah i i have a very hard principle on this and i use my own experience um his name

00:54:44.600 was nabeel qareshi and he's an incredible guy incredible guy he he gets discredited a lot

00:54:50.340 because he came from amadiyah islam which is a very like almost one percent minority sect of

00:54:54.520 islam that actually believes that jesus was 120 years old and died in kashmir that was his like

00:55:00.080 theological background so he was a great muslim he is a warrior for the kingdom but even his

00:55:06.260 approach is very new testament focused and the issue is that the muslims handled his approach 0.77

00:55:11.220 he was a monster he dropped seeking allah finding jesus incredible book i read it like three times

00:55:15.360 when i was muslim he was huge in my journey too but i'm very plugged into the muslim ecosystem

00:55:22.720 yeah they've handled all those claims to a very well level so we have to reach people based on 1.00

00:55:29.540 their worldview and sadly it's the muslims are surgically trained in a way of as if they're 0.99

00:55:36.700 almost like rabbinical jews in real time to handle the truth claims of the new testament 1.00

00:55:40.720 so the truth is we have to get this out of the way first and even if we say jesus loves you and 0.80

00:55:46.380 we give him jesus's teachings they're gonna say we love him too but he's not god because their

00:55:49.980 theology is gripped by this book yeah so we have to undermine the authority of this now the truth

00:55:55.340 is all those stories I gave you,

00:55:57.800 we, the thing I love about this

00:56:00.560 is that we're not getting into politics

00:56:02.020 or morality or ethics.

00:56:04.020 I've led workshops with like 13 year old kids

00:56:06.280 who know the story of Joseph,

00:56:07.900 who know the story of Moses,

00:56:09.040 who know their biblical story so well.

00:56:10.820 So the first thing for like the mom 1.00

00:56:12.020 who doesn't want to become an apologist,

00:56:13.720 train your kids on knowing like every single Bible story,

00:56:16.680 show them the videos,

00:56:17.760 walk them through it yourselves.

00:56:18.780 If we have a biblically literate generation

00:56:21.100 where the stories of the prophets are the key,

00:56:23.400 we're going to save muslims left and right and they can engage students in their schools

00:56:27.660 i mean how do we address the claim though that their claim even if we say okay well the quran

00:56:34.140 says this the bible says this they think that the bible is corrupted how do we address the claim

00:56:38.980 yeah so this is called pressing the differences so it's a general claim it's so large specifically

00:56:45.680 where was it changed and we have thousands of examples like that so let's use the moses jacob

00:56:50.460 example why you have to give a motive you have to prove it so there's two types of corruption and

00:56:55.780 this is apologetics here there's two types of corruption there's unintentional corruption

00:57:00.460 which is like a pen slip from like a hebrew scribe or there's intentional corruption which is what we

00:57:05.640 saw like how did moses become all the way jacob you can't you can't like pen slip your way into

00:57:09.920 mixing those two stories you can't pen slip your way into corrupting all of saul into gideon that's

00:57:13.860 impossible it has to be intentionally corrupted so for intentional corruption you need to have a

00:57:19.740 motive. And there's four motives. I give the Muslims these four motives open saying you can

00:57:25.040 add anything else if you want, but if it's not, if you can't prove a motive for corruption, 0.72

00:57:28.940 it didn't happen. And the Quran is wrong. And no Christian will ever convert to Islam

00:57:34.100 unless you can prove a motive for corruption. Those four motives are this, I call it PPET, 1.00

00:57:38.960 P-P-E-T. Prophecies of Mahab. So let's go through an example together. That Moses Jacob example, 0.81

00:57:44.720 let's say Moses served for wives, but that's actually what happened. And then we corrupted 0.93

00:57:48.020 it to make a Jacob. Okay. The first corruption incentive is to hide a prophecy of Muhammad,

00:57:54.180 that this guy Muhammad was coming around and we don't want him to be known anywhere. 0.96

00:57:57.120 And we're talking about the motives of the Jews at the time to have corrupted 1.00

00:58:01.740 the Torah. Exactly. Okay. So these are the motives that a Muslim would maybe ascribe to 0.99

00:58:09.920 a Jewish person. Exactly. Got it. Okay. Go ahead. So I found four motives, Muslim friend,

00:58:13.740 my lovely Muslim brother. Give me some more if you find some. The first one is prophecies

00:58:17.960 of Muhammad. Does that specific change hide any processes of Muhammad? Are there any processes

00:58:23.740 of Muhammad in Moses serving for a wife or Jacob serving for a wife? No. Okay. Ethical motives. Does

00:58:30.960 it change your stance on abortion or premarital sex or anything of the 10 commandments? No, it's 0.66

00:58:36.480 a story of serving for wives. Okay. Theological motives. Does it affect the oneness of God? Does 0.75

00:58:41.640 it affect the Holy Spirit? Does it affect crucifixion or Trinitarianism or anything?

00:58:45.120 no it's just a story of Moses getting married to two wives or Jacob in our sense the last one is

00:58:52.920 what else political motives is there like a land exchange is there a political incentive

00:58:57.440 is there any reason why politically they would make that change in scriptures and then do it

00:59:02.900 across every Hebrew Torah in the world no it's a story and so the key here is that the Old Testament

00:59:09.420 stories are saving Muslims because they can't prove anywhere that it's corrupted and that's 0.72

00:59:14.480 using just the Quran. So we have this thing called the Dead Sea Scrolls, okay? And there's 1.00

00:59:18.780 manuscripts that are from 250 BC, and there's a copy of Genesis in the Dead Sea Scrolls dated

00:59:24.720 at 125 BC that matches what we read in our Old Testament today. So we have this insane manuscript

00:59:30.960 chain. And what they are essentially claiming, and I say this very publicly to every Muslim

00:59:36.080 apologist that's trying to debunk Shariq Khan, you have to explain thousands of corruptions, 0.89

00:59:41.620 the motive to do so and you have to prove that for some reason from moses to 250 bc the jews 0.93

00:59:49.840 were just corrupting everything they had over and over in all the prophet books with no motives 0.91

00:59:54.700 i mean some have theological motives maybe but they were doing that and then it just stopped

01:00:01.300 in 250 bc that from 250 bc for the next 2200 years until today nobody wanted to corrupt anything

01:00:09.560 It's a conspiracy theory.

01:00:11.180 I call it the global Torah conspiracy theory. 0.61

01:00:13.760 It's like, it's an insane claim. 0.99

01:00:15.560 You have to prove that or Occam's razor, Muhammad heard the stories wrong because he was already 0.96

01:00:21.820 illiterate, which you confirm. 1.00

01:00:23.100 Which one is it Muslim friend? 1.00

01:00:25.060 And the beauty of this is because we're only using the scriptures to debunk the authority 1.00

01:00:29.800 of the Quran. 0.71

01:00:31.080 Now we can use the scriptures to lay the prolegomena, the foundations of the Messiah that all come

01:00:37.820 from the Torah. 0.96

01:00:38.560 So because we use the Torah to deconstruct the Quran, 0.85

01:00:42.060 what does the Torah really say? 0.89

01:00:43.760 Original sin, blood atonement,

01:00:46.460 theophany is God wrestling with Jacob, 0.92

01:00:48.200 God walking in the garden.

01:00:49.440 God was a man all the time.

01:00:51.120 Jeremiah one, the word of the Lord touched my mouth.

01:00:53.460 The word of the Lord was physical.

01:00:54.900 God was physical.

01:00:55.780 Yahweh was physical.

01:00:56.500 The burning bush,

01:00:57.560 like he was manifesting on earth all the time.

01:01:00.020 Then we go into like the messianic prophecies,

01:01:01.960 like the suffering servant's a great one.

01:01:04.200 And before we ever touch the New Testament, 1.00

01:01:06.540 we now have this giant foundation of the three-step process which is deconstruct quran 1.00

01:01:11.760 reconstruct those biblical foundations now the gospel lands like butter in our ministry we have

01:01:18.180 the most about muslims muslims who are way more devout than i ever was coming to faith and because

01:01:23.200 we build it right and we do it right the first thing on their mind is i need to learn this so

01:01:27.900 i can bring my family with me that's discipleship and i'm sitting on this and i'm like why is like

01:01:32.840 we need this we need you to know this we need people to know this because if we do that if we 0.54

01:01:37.660 just stop this like christian echo chamber of islam isn't compatible like we know it's been 0.97

01:01:44.180 uncompatible for the last 1400 years but there's 2 billion of them what's the solution yeah we have 0.98

01:01:49.800 to get this out of the way yeah and i i'm really i have a lot of foresight the only other way if 1.00

01:01:56.200 you can somehow explain the thousands of corruptions that the jews made for no reason 0.91

01:01:59.360 some of them that we went over today if you can somehow explain that you would still need to do 0.94

01:02:04.920 one thing which is to like debunk shahat khan and debunk this argument you would need to go

01:02:09.640 and excavate all of saudi arabia and you would have to find just one torah scroll that has the

01:02:16.080 jacob remix that has the saul gideon remix that has all of these differences just one just find

01:02:21.060 one and i guarantee that every christian in the world would pay attention to it right but they 0.93

01:02:25.760 would never do that because saudi arabia is a cash cow for islam the kaba is so important they can't 0.73

01:02:31.220 just dig it up and what if they dig it up and they'll probably find our torah scrolls then what 0.99

01:02:35.500 yeah islam shouldn't exist i don't think it should be existing past this year if we get this message 0.99

01:02:40.140 out i am very passionate about that and the best part is that this can help muslims come to christ 1.00

01:02:45.980 right and i'll land the plane here i've been landing like seven different planes this whole

01:02:51.240 time no it's great um ex-muslims make really great christians they make really great christians i 0.96

01:02:57.440 stand as a living example of that when they are discipled correctly and they are ripped out of it 1.00

01:03:01.220 the the fire that the second largest world religion we now can close the door on forever 0.99

01:03:06.540 we don't have to defend muhammad or islam anymore when we become christian we don't shut up and my 0.98

01:03:13.200 first inclination is my whole family's gotta come with me and we go and make disciples

01:03:17.040 So I think the Lord blessed us so much with his scripture.

01:03:20.280 And like the reverence that I've had for God's word now,

01:03:22.980 seeing all the differences, I'm like, this is incredible.

01:03:24.680 It really is.

01:03:25.440 Tell me about your family's response to this.

01:03:28.960 They hated it when I became Christian.

01:03:31.840 Right.

01:03:33.020 Very, very emotional.

01:03:34.860 Still one of the hardest things I've ever done.

01:03:36.600 My mom still calls me every single day because she sees my content.

01:03:40.140 And she's like, please stop.

01:03:42.760 She's like, please stop, Shark. 0.95

01:03:44.060 Like, this is ridiculous. 0.99

01:03:44.740 like some people treat her differently now because of me like her son's like the biggest apostate 0.97

01:03:49.780 and he's not shutting up and my dad is like you know this is before there's two stages to this

01:03:57.820 when i first started the content they are i mean it's like the hardest thing i've ever dealt with

01:04:02.100 like the lord says to honor your mom and dad and i like i just don't feel like i'm doing that so i

01:04:05.400 feel like i'm being so disobedient but then like the lord has exalted this ministry this mission

01:04:09.520 i don't know if it's in my own power i really don't think it is but it's like what's the balance

01:04:14.340 there. Yeah. Honor your father and mother. And then also Jesus says, if you're not willing to

01:04:19.080 hate your father and mother, take up your cross and follow me, then you're not worthy to be my

01:04:22.820 disciple. And so there's, yeah, I mean, there's both of that. And obviously God tells us to do 0.98

01:04:28.860 both. And so there's a way to honor while also saying, okay, my allegiance is completely sold

01:04:35.500 out to Christ. And I'm trusting that he's going to take care of them because he loves them even

01:04:40.820 more i bet that's really hard yeah but thank you for sharing that with me i actually needed to hear

01:04:45.160 that because i think i focused so much on that first half yeah but like he's come with a sword

01:04:49.480 that is going to divide families and like how much more willing are you guys going to be to

01:04:53.360 bear your cross right right yeah well that got me yeah that's a really tough position to be in so

01:04:59.420 they haven't yet their hearts have not softened towards the gospel but you're working on it yes

01:05:05.540 And so this is, this is, you know, quite personal, but I, I run this master, we call it the master

01:05:10.900 key.

01:05:11.860 I run the master key with them multiple times and I've been discipling my mom for the last

01:05:18.320 year and she's, she's devout.

01:05:20.760 She's been in it.

01:05:21.560 She's been in it for a long time.

01:05:22.800 And you said she's from India.

01:05:24.380 Yeah.

01:05:24.620 She was raised an Indian Muslim.

01:05:26.040 Your dad from Pakistan.

01:05:26.840 Yeah.

01:05:27.060 My mom was raised Hindu.

01:05:27.740 She converted to marry my dad. 0.96

01:05:29.140 Oh, interesting.

01:05:29.860 Okay.

01:05:30.080 I didn't know that aspect.

01:05:31.280 And she, she teaches at a, at a high level too.

01:05:33.520 Okay.

01:05:33.740 So she's actually a teacher in Islam.

01:05:34.820 And my dad is Pakistani Muslims are the most, I say this with no pride, the most about Muslims

01:05:39.800 out there.

01:05:40.380 They are in it.

01:05:41.340 Like the schooling systems, the PhDs that come out of Pakistan, Dr. Yastrakadi is Pakistani.

01:05:46.500 Like they're all amazing.

01:05:48.460 Yeah.

01:05:48.760 So I was deep.

01:05:50.980 Yeah.

01:05:51.780 Can I ask you a question?

01:05:52.800 Because you're talking about part of the right that is like saying things that are true.

01:05:57.040 Like Islam as an ideology is compatible with the Christian values of Western civilization. 1.00

01:06:03.200 Obviously, we see a lot of violence out of Muslim-majority countries, even those who

01:06:07.520 are radicalized come here, down in Austin, there was that shooting and all of that.

01:06:12.320 And so there's a lot of fear on the one hand.

01:06:14.780 I think that inhibits people from sharing the gospel.

01:06:17.680 But then on the other hand, I see people on the so-called right, I don't know if on the

01:06:22.400 left too, but I saw the other day, Tucker Carlson was like, well, Muslims already love

01:06:27.620 Jesus.

01:06:28.240 They already love Jesus because they exalt him as a prophet.

01:06:30.820 So I think there's also part of the right that's like, we don't need to share the gospel because we basically have the same values and a lot of the same beliefs.

01:06:38.500 What do you think about that?

01:06:40.240 I want to talk to Tucker Carlson about that.

01:06:42.140 I think his stance is very interesting.

01:06:45.560 It's not compatible with the West. 0.82

01:06:47.120 I mean, under Quranic standards, we would be under Sharia law, which directly conflicts with the Constitution. 0.99

01:06:52.160 And the Muslims know this. 1.00

01:06:53.080 Like, no Muslim in America is going to be like, yeah, we should replace the Constitution with Sharia law. 0.95

01:06:56.280 but yeah it's not because it would rewrite the the american values that we were built on the 0.99

01:07:02.060 protestant values that we built on so the truth is it's not at all but in islamic theology they

01:07:09.040 have a mandate that we need to make as many people muslim as possible and then you get you

01:07:13.980 know i was in dearborn last month and i was doing evangelism trainings up there wow yeah and i'm

01:07:17.980 very front lines um and it's a whole different world up there like islam is you go there and

01:07:24.640 I felt like I was visiting Pakistan again. 1.00

01:07:26.560 It really did, 1.00

01:07:27.160 which isn't a bad thing.

01:07:28.100 I mean,

01:07:28.280 I love the culture.

01:07:29.000 I don't mind it,

01:07:29.580 but I could see how Americans are very uncomfortable with it.

01:07:33.860 I'm just,

01:07:34.540 I'm just like,

01:07:35.440 you know what?

01:07:36.060 With everybody,

01:07:36.740 I've been in this church echo chamber for so long.

01:07:39.280 I'm like,

01:07:39.760 so what?

01:07:40.260 Like we know it's not compatible. 0.98

01:07:41.860 We know Sharia law has very dangerous components to it. 1.00

01:07:44.300 It has a lot of beautiful components to it. 1.00

01:07:45.940 Like no interest.

01:07:46.880 That's a great one.

01:07:47.720 Like my,

01:07:48.040 my dad doesn't take any interest on any of the loans he gives out.

01:07:50.240 Cause it's like,

01:07:50.820 yeah,

01:07:51.020 Sharia law. 0.73

01:07:51.520 Sure. 1.00

01:07:52.000 So people do benefit from it,

01:07:53.100 but,

01:07:53.960 i'm like so what like there what's the solution let's get radical for a second like we can't

01:07:59.540 deport all of them we can't put them on one area and have a genocide that's not very biblical 0.85

01:08:03.520 we can't do we can't become amish and like we you know the christians we're gonna have our side of 1.00

01:08:08.560 the world and then let the muslims come in like crazy and you guys have like california sure 1.00

01:08:12.160 right like these are like we can give them a part of the nation to have them rewrite the constitution 1.00

01:08:16.300 because maybe there was one muslim in 1776 in the u.s and now it's a different time so we got to 0.92

01:08:21.400 make up for that none of these like none of these are my conviction i'm gonna make that very clear

01:08:26.460 but these are all things that i've spoken on influencer and politician plant like panels

01:08:31.980 and i'm like why is this our solution like does does nobody see the main solution we just make

01:08:36.320 them christian like i was a liberal muslim i was a very liberal muslim i voted blue all the time i

01:08:40.920 loved it well the one time i could vote even though muslims have conservative values yes still 0.87

01:08:45.500 end up voting Democrat yeah yes because we were very anti-evangelical Christian very anti that's 0.52

01:08:51.800 like that's like for us in Islam that's like the spawn of Satan is what what what's happening with

01:08:55.860 that and would you say there's an aspect of being anti-Israel and perceiving Republicans as being

01:09:00.680 pro-Israel totally part of it yeah totally I was at I was at a lecture this Friday at at Epic Mosque

01:09:06.460 with Yasser Qadhi he was speaking to the entire congregation and I was just sitting there which

01:09:10.080 is like amazing because like I'm like this big ex-Muslim guy but I'm still walking right up to

01:09:12.900 him and he the he probably said christian zionism like six times during it and he's equipping the 0.98

01:09:19.380 muslims to not only deconstruct it but to come against it with a radical faith and we don't see

01:09:25.900 it in the west because western muslims are beautiful people they're very americanized i'm 0.97

01:09:29.160 one of them but they're still funding islam they still send thousands of dollars to mosques to

01:09:35.280 overseas initiatives where somebody in nigeria or ethiopia or afghanistan or pakistan they're all

01:09:41.940 getting discipled by the same people and so like we have american civilization to rely on with our

01:09:46.400 laws that are very powerful that muslims submit to don't get it wrong but the message here is going 0.93

01:09:51.940 overseas to where we don't have control and that's where this radical like impact is we're seeing it 0.94

01:09:58.120 we're seeing it with the pro-palestine movement we're seeing it with hamas support and in islam

01:10:02.940 it's like yeah of course we support hamas like that's our umma that's our muslim brothers and

01:10:05.860 sisters yeah and they're resistance and like i go to i went to epic mosque and like they're all

01:10:10.400 wearing you know the the keffiyeh the palestinian one that represents freedom and unity and they're

01:10:14.780 so passionate about it yeah and like you know i was muslim i see i see both sides i understand

01:10:19.560 it's a conflict that goes way beyond just october 7th you know i've seen the history of it and i'm

01:10:24.420 like man like both people think they have a claim to that land and both people are operating in

01:10:29.180 theological claims and none of them are christian so what even the solution to that is why don't we 0.75

01:10:34.140 just make them all christian why don't we make the muslims christian why don't we make the 0.80

01:10:36.880 rabbinical jews christian the orthodox jews christian let's make everybody christian and

01:10:40.300 i think that has to be the only solution i think there's a lot of fear understandably for the

01:10:46.020 evangelical christian to witness to the muslims in their neighborhood i have a lot of muslims

01:10:51.820 in my neighborhood and um there's just fear especially like hearing what you just said that

01:10:58.260 the christian zionist whatever that even means what most evangelicals are that are so demonized

01:11:04.800 i think that a lot of people are afraid that going into a muslim community and sharing the gospel 0.63

01:11:09.840 that you're going to get hurt, that you're going to get threatened or killed or whatever.

01:11:14.800 And people would say, yeah, the gospel is worth it. But then when it comes to your kids,

01:11:18.440 when it comes to protecting your family, people have a lot of fear. Should they have that fear?

01:11:26.160 That's a great question. Should they have that fear? I try my best to be an example

01:11:32.200 that I wouldn't give advice that I haven't lived out myself. I purposely go to Dearborn and the

01:11:38.120 mosques and i go right to them they all know my face i get recognized immediately in all these

01:11:42.400 places and i still have fruitful conversations with them because i'm not doing what a lot of

01:11:48.880 the big christian apologists are doing we have politicians that are shooting qurans with snipers

01:11:52.840 that are burning him as like pyrotechnic stunts we have christians that are attacking the character

01:11:58.200 of muhammad which anything in his life i don't even care what he did if he did it great the 0.85

01:12:02.860 muslims can wrestle that after they're christian we have our scripture we can stand on the word 0.95

01:12:07.220 of god to debunk this once this is out of the way they don't care about muhammad anymore he's just a 0.96

01:12:11.540 random arab guy who had like a pretty sinful past sure yeah bless his heart hope he repents and

01:12:17.100 comes to christ however that works um and the the truth is is that we i really feel like we're kind 0.98

01:12:25.420 of doing it to ourselves to an extent because we are so unequipped and whenever i go to muslim

01:12:31.760 majority areas or mosques they are kind of like laughing at us they're like they don't take the

01:12:37.120 Christian seriously at all because we're screaming on stages and we're not trying to understand them 0.99

01:12:41.620 based on their worldview. We're straw manning so much of them. I understand the fear. And this is 0.96

01:12:48.120 where I need to humble myself too, because I'm blessed to be in the West and I can shout it on

01:12:52.880 Instagram and walk publicly. But I have women in our ministry who are 16, 17, 18, who have come to

01:12:58.240 Christ, but they're in Egypt and they get kicked out of their house and they don't have anywhere

01:13:02.700 to go. Their parents are threatening to murder them. That's happened in my ministry with young

01:13:06.640 girls that we've helped save through the master key and we're like we have people flying in to

01:13:10.660 like help them out get them housing we're trying to find them jobs and it's humbled me so much

01:13:14.860 and the truth is you know it's hebrews 2 it says the fear of death is is from satan and that christ

01:13:23.360 became one of us to break that fear of death over us and so we need to get really radical

01:13:27.840 and i understand like i understand the fear of getting hurt and persecution 0.97

01:13:32.160 but if we are christian and we really believe that islam is a stronghold a demonic stronghold 0.95

01:13:39.560 on two billion people there's gonna be a very muddy and bloody consequence to a lot of things 0.90

01:13:46.480 but the thing that i cling to personally is he did it first christ did it first like he got 0.92

01:13:53.080 crucified i pray to god i don't get crucified also i pray to god this is a muslim thing that

01:13:59.160 they're teaching on like the muslims are like hey like you want to convert as many people to islam 1.00

01:14:02.880 as possible and you do not want to be alive during armageddon it's going to be muddy and bloody 1.00

01:14:07.140 it's like do your job here on earth and i think that's there's a beauty of that i think that's

01:14:11.780 where i get it from i'm like i don't want to be alive when christ comes back i heard like there's

01:14:16.020 some pretty crazy prophecies about what's going to happen and you know what if people don't believe

01:14:19.480 and it puts a real fear of god on me so yeah i'm just like let's just be as present as possible

01:14:24.440 I think the missionaries

01:14:25.960 that are overseas 1.00

01:14:26.640 are equipped to handle

01:14:27.820 overseas affairs

01:14:28.700 I think if we handle

01:14:30.020 Islam in America

01:14:30.740 right now 0.67

01:14:31.720 as a church

01:14:32.460 we unify just for like

01:14:33.500 a year on this

01:14:34.600 I really think

01:14:36.300 the scholars here

01:14:37.360 will disciple the entire world

01:14:38.740 and we don't even have to 1.00

01:14:39.860 touch the Muslims after that

01:14:40.760 I think we're blessed 1.00

01:14:41.560 to have just only 1.00

01:14:42.800 7 million Muslims

01:14:43.640 here in the US

01:14:44.420 that I get

01:14:45.720 a lot of hate

01:14:46.520 for saying this

01:14:47.180 but I think the Lord

01:14:48.380 moved them here on purpose

01:14:49.340 just like my family

01:14:50.720 to hear the gospel

01:14:51.720 for the very first time

01:14:52.580 in their lives

01:14:53.080 my dad's been in this country

01:14:54.280 for 30 something years and he only heard the gospel from me like two years ago 28 years of

01:14:59.520 nothing despite being in corporate america in in the arena in new york wow so i'm wondering what

01:15:05.260 you know i'm not too big on like prophetic end time stuff right now i think it's like we have

01:15:09.480 no idea what it is but i think there's something very prophetic about the time that we're in

01:15:14.020 that we have a very scarce opportunity to reach muslims here two of the biggest scholars omar

01:15:20.060 Suleiman and Yashar Qadhi are within 10 miles of us. And they have millions of followers. They're

01:15:25.120 discipling hundreds of millions of Muslims every year. Why don't we just try to convert them? 1.00

01:15:29.840 What if they switched? That's a nuke, right? That's where my faith is. I have giant faith

01:15:35.140 for them. Also, I think the church needs the ex-Muslims because we run a really tight ship. 1.00

01:15:38.440 We know how to run stuff. Yeah, for sure. Can you tell people how they can find the master key, 1.00

01:15:44.080 how they can support you in your ministry? Yeah. We have a free online community. It's

01:15:48.720 school s-k-o-o-l dot com slash christ that's you have to apply to get in but it's just like a

01:15:53.820 quick application but we have hundreds of hours of training on this but we also have this which

01:15:59.080 i'll give to you as well this is our cheat sheet for the master key and when we do like street

01:16:02.380 evangelism we just have this and we train our apologetics people on this and it's just story

01:16:07.720 comparison it's just like knowing your bible and knowing how to press a corruption claim and that's

01:16:11.260 it so all that's available for completely free it's on our ministry um we're like a grassroots

01:16:15.980 ministry we started a year ago so we're just kind of running um you know you can check with me on

01:16:20.220 youtube but truthfully like i don't care about like the views and the content like get in the 0.99

01:16:23.720 ministry get trained on this and like let's go save some muslims like there's praise god it's so

01:16:28.540 much fun my faith has never been stronger seeing muslims come to christ praise god well thank you

01:16:32.100 so much sharek i really appreciate the boldness of your testimony and just how the lord has used you

01:16:36.200 i bet it's really difficult to have grown up in one culture and one belief system to love your

01:16:41.840 parents and your siblings so much and to say, I'm going to give it all for Christ. And I just have

01:16:47.680 a lot of confidence knowing that what you're doing is going to change the hearts of your family,

01:16:52.900 of your mom and your dad and your sisters and your brothers. So I just pray that. And I pray

01:16:57.040 that you are effective and fruitful and that the Lord would use you. So thank you so much.

01:17:01.360 Thank you so much, Allie. It's an honor. It really is. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

01:17:11.840 Thank you.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 01, 2026

Ep 1340 ｜ Ex-Muslim： The Only Way to Stop Sharia Law in the US ｜ Shahriq Khan

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