Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 13, 2026


Ep 1346 ｜ Moms.gov： Trump’s New Website Has One Flaw

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moms.gov abortion pill IVF and fertility treatments on moms.gov embryos on ice abortion prevalence rise pills mifepristone ruling in-person abortion visit requirement Good Ranchers
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Trump Rx Allie Beth Biden Christina Francis Good Ranchers Elizabeth Warren Anne Hathaway Jen Biopro Rosalie Markozic Hillary Clinton Sam Harris Marty McCary Ellen Page Faith Hill Brad Pitt Misoprostol Achilles Odyssey Danco Alito and 18 more
Ep 1345 ｜ Going 'No Contact' with Parents： Is It Biblical？ Ep 1347 ｜ Going Soft on Islam？ The Right’s Shifting Views Explained ｜ Jeremy Boreing

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In this episode, Allie talks about the growing trend of going No Contact or cutting off contact with a parent, and why it hurts so many of us. She also discusses the biblical reasons why this is a bad idea.

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00:00:00 The Trump administration has launched an awesome initiative to help expectant moms.
00:00:05 Unfortunately, there are parts of it that I just cannot get on board with.
00:00:10 In fact, there are two things when it comes to life inside the wound that the Trump administration
00:00:15 is doing right now that I'm very concerned about.
00:00:18 We are going to get into all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable.
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00:00:38 code Allie. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful
00:00:52 week so far. Okay. A couple of things that I want to say before we get into today's episode.
00:00:57 got quite the response to Monday's episode about this trend of going no contact or cutting off
00:01:03 your parents. And the stories that I heard on both sides of this issue were heartbreaking for a lot
00:01:10 of reasons. So on the one hand, I got a lot of people saying that they have siblings, they have
00:01:16 parents, they have children, they have cousins that have cut them off really for no good reason
00:01:22 because of a disagreement or because they just didn't like their tone, very arbitrary surface
00:01:27 level reasons. And in some cases it was just mysterious. Someone super close to you, blood
00:01:33 related even, cut you off. You have no contact with them, with their children for reasons that
00:01:39 you may never know. And for that set of people, the episode that I put out really hit home and
00:01:46 kind of helped them understand where this is coming from, why this has become a trend,
00:01:51 the psychologizing of difficulties in relationships has made this worse. And then there was another
00:01:57 set of people who really did not feel represented properly by my message. And while I do feel like
00:02:04 I put in caveats and some nuances there, I think that I could have been more clear and could have
00:02:11 gotten to the point more quickly that there are reasons, could be good reasons to no longer have
00:02:17 a relationship with someone that you have in your family. And that for many of you, that decision
00:02:24 did not come easily. It did not come because of politics. It did not come arbitrarily, but that
00:02:30 it was actually a very difficult decision for you to make for the well-being of your family and the
00:02:35 well-being of your children. So I understand that. And maybe I'll do a part two. As I was listening
00:02:41 back to it, I felt like I could have gotten to a resolution or a solution more quickly. I think I
00:02:46 could have been a little bit more clear that, hey, there are actually abusive patterns of
00:02:52 behaviors, whether it's physical abuse or, and we could get into this whole terminology, but true
00:02:58 emotional abuse that could justify for a season of time, no communication with a particular person.
00:03:07 And then I also could have gotten to that, hey, here's what the Bible actually has to say about
00:03:13 our parental relationships. It's not a covenant relationship. It is an obligation to honor our
00:03:18 father and mother, but honoring father and mother and having a spirit of reconciliation and
00:03:24 forgiveness is not the same thing as access. It's not the same thing as a physical presence with
00:03:29 you or a physical presence, especially with your children. And so I still think it's a very
00:03:34 important episode for you to listen to and to watch. There were people who reached out to me
00:03:39 and said that they have had these very, very troubling and traumatic relationships and they
00:03:45 found the episode to be accurate and helpful and all of that. We're always going to have a variety
00:03:50 of opinions and a variety of perspectives, especially on a hot topic. But it is important
00:03:56 for me to listen to you and to weigh the things that you have to say, especially those of you who
00:04:01 are coming to me in a spirit of understanding and trying to help me understand. And so I think at
00:04:09 the very least, that episode needs a part two. But everything that we said in there is true.
00:04:15 And there is certainly the spirit of TikTokification of our relationships that I do 1.00
00:04:22 think is very damaging. And the mentality that we focused on of, hey, I have to do what's best for 0.52
00:04:28 me, even if it hurts my parents or even if it hurts this very important relationship in my life
00:04:36 is not the spirit of Christianity,
00:04:37 but there could be good biblical reasons,
00:04:40 unfortunately, why you have to have a cessation
00:04:44 of a relationship for a period of time.
00:04:46 So anyway, I just wanted to kind of say that
00:04:49 because I know there was a lot of conversation
00:04:51 on my social media and on YouTube
00:04:53 about the different points that were made in that episode.
00:04:56 If you haven't listened to it,
00:04:57 if you haven't watched it yet, go back to it.
00:04:59 Give me your honest feedback and what you think about it.
00:05:02 Try to make it through the entire thing though,
00:05:04 because we do try to give as many caveats as we can
00:05:07 while still making a clear point
00:05:09 about the importance of honoring our parents
00:05:11 and maintaining those relationships.
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00:05:36 All right, now we are going to get into today's episode, which is also a controversial topic
00:05:40 because we will be talking about IVF and the Trump administration, some of the goods they
00:05:45 have done on the pro-life front that I, as a pro-lifer, am very excited about, and then
00:05:50 some of the things that Trump is very morally confused about and some efforts that the Trump
00:05:55 administration has made that are simply not pro-life, not only when it comes to the pushing
00:06:01 of the subsidizing of in vitro fertilization, which we'll get into, but also their stance on
00:06:08 the abortion pill and how they have gotten in the way of pro-life efforts to make it more difficult
00:06:13 to access this murderous medication, which is now responsible for the majority of abortion.
00:06:20 So let's get into the good first, and then we'll get into the complicated, and we'll get into the
00:06:24 straight up bad. So moms.gov is a good and new initiative by the Trump administration,
00:06:31 and it's a website that supports mothers and families. On Mother's Day, the White House
00:06:36 launched this new website, and they announced this, and it helps expectant moms find nearby
00:06:42 pregnancy care centers. You guys know that these pregnancy centers are near and dear to my heart.
00:06:48 This is the majority of the speaking engagements that I do. I go to these pro-life banquets and
00:06:54 fundraisers where they invite me to just give a message of encouragement, but really it's an
00:06:58 encouragement to me because I see how God is working through the mostly unseen and unsung
00:07:03 work of these pregnancy centers, of these pro-life Christians all across the nation and the deepest
00:07:09 blue cities and rural areas in the South, in the North, everywhere. God is working through these
00:07:14 pregnancy care centers to give women truth, to give them resources, to connect them to believers
00:07:20 and to lead them to the gospel.
00:07:22 It's amazing what God is doing 0.99
00:07:24 through these pregnancy centers.
00:07:25 And I am so glad that the Trump administration
00:07:27 is shining a light on that. 0.75
00:07:29 So moms.gov provides information and nutrition 0.56
00:07:31 on nutrition and wellness for healthy pregnancies. 0.72
00:07:35 They've got information like dietary guidelines,
00:07:38 breastfeeding education, mental health support.
00:07:40 And so you hear so much.
00:07:42 Yeah, there it is.
00:07:43 If you're watching moms.gov, resources, information,
00:07:46 help for new and expecting mothers.
00:07:48 Love that so much.
00:07:49 you hear so much from the pro-abortion side. You guys only care about being pro-birth. You guys
00:07:54 are just trying to control women's bodies. You don't care at all about what happens to women 0.99
00:08:00 and what happens to their babies after birth. First of all, that's always been untrue. That's
00:08:04 always been untrue. If you are worried about women not having the resources that they need
00:08:10 when they're in a crisis pregnancy situation, I better see you at your local pregnancy center.
00:08:15 Most people complaining, oh, these women don't have the resources that they need. 0.95
00:08:18 they're not showing up on Saturdays to help these women at the pregnancy centers get the baby 1.00
00:08:25 supplies and the items that they need. They're not donating to their local pregnancy centers.
00:08:29 Typically, what pro-choicers and pro-aborts mean by that is in order to support these women,
00:08:34 you have to outsource your compassion to the government. Typically, what they mean
00:08:38 exclusively is that the government needs to step in and expand these programs that so often
00:08:43 are actually counterproductive and aren't actually helping moms have the resources that 1.00
00:08:48 they need to survive. And by the way, government funded resources for those who are below the
00:08:54 poverty line are already abundant. So it's typically just an excuse to be pro-choice
00:08:59 and be pro-abortion. But look, we have right here, we have the Trump administration is giving
00:09:05 the options available to women to make sure that they have the support that they need to choose
00:09:10 life and to raise their babies. If the left were really about supporting women and they were really
00:09:17 about moms and babies, it would have been the Biden administration who created moms.gov. It 0.98
00:09:24 would have been a Democrat-led effort to make sure that moms have the resources that they need. But 1.00
00:09:28 oh, it's the just pro-birthers that are doing it. Now, the Biden administration leading the charge
00:09:35 for, you know, taking care of women and their babies, they created their own website in 2022,
00:09:41 ReproductiveRights.gov. That connected pregnant women to abortion providers, such as Planned
00:09:48 Parenthood. Their initiative provided answers for women and families dealing with unexpected
00:09:54 pregnancies. That's what they said. Of course, that's euphemistic. All they mean is that,
00:09:59 hey, we want it to be easier for you to kill your child. So on the one hand, we've got Democrats 0.99
00:10:04 saying your solution to your problems
00:10:06 if you're in an unexpected pregnancy situation 1.00
00:10:09 is to kill your baby. 0.99
00:10:11 Here, we'll make it as easy as possible to do that. 1.00
00:10:14 On the Republican side,
00:10:16 you've got the Republicans,
00:10:18 the Trump administration saying,
00:10:19 hey, we're gonna help you figure this out.
00:10:22 Like, we'll help you figure out the adoption process
00:10:26 if that's what you wanna do.
00:10:27 We'll help you figure out parenting
00:10:28 if that's what you wanna do.
00:10:30 We're gonna connect you to life-affirming resources.
00:10:33 okay so when people say oh republicans and democrats are the same they're equally evil
00:10:39 they're both pro-life in their own ways no one is pro-death like one is pro-murder of your babies
00:10:46 and one is trying uh imperfectly by the way but one is trying to make it is make it more possible
00:10:55 and make it more plausible for women to be able to choose life in 2022 you might remember that
00:11:02 After the leak of the Dobbs decision, the Roe v. Wade reversal decision, pro-abortion activists attacked more than 100 pregnancy centers across the country, including firebombings, arson, vandalism.
00:11:14 We've got some pictures of that.
00:11:16 It says if abortion isn't safe, the graffiti says, then neither are you. 0.96
00:11:21 This is Jane's Revenge. 0.98
00:11:23 They're a terrorist organization that tried to ruin these pregnancy centers, could have killed people if people had been inside.
00:11:31 And just as a reminder, the Biden administration sentenced these perpetrators of Jane's revenge to an average of 12 months in prison, while peaceful pro-lifers like Joan Bell, 74-year-old grandmother, she and others like her were sentenced to two-plus years in prison.
00:11:49 And so, of course, unequal weights and measures there. You get rewarded if you are pro-abortion by Democrats, and you get punished if you are pro-life by Democrats.
00:12:00 So again, I just want to say that both sides are not the same.
00:12:04 Moms.gov also highlights the pregnancy care centers and the specific work they are providing,
00:12:11 like free ultrasounds, like parenting classes.
00:12:14 They connect you to adoption resources.
00:12:17 They'll help you with Medicaid if that's something that you need.
00:12:22 They provide free counseling.
00:12:23 I have told many, many stories of the incredible testimonies of women who have walked into these pregnancy centers and their lives have been changed by the love and the help that they have received there.
00:12:39 And so really the hate and the terrorism that pregnancy centers have received from the left, the lies that have been told about them in the media, you've got people like Elizabeth Warren.
00:12:51 We did like a satirical video several years ago about Elizabeth Warren because Elizabeth Warren said she was going to go into these pregnancy centers and she was going to show what's really going on.
00:13:00 And so I put my Elizabeth Warren wig on and I went into a local pregnancy center to show you what's really going on.
00:13:06 And oh, no, they give free baby clothes away.
00:13:10 Oh, no, they're offering free ultrasounds.
00:13:12 Oh, no, they offer free pregnancy tests and prenatal vitamins.
00:13:16 Oh, no, they're so kind in there.
00:13:18 And they might tell you that Jesus loves you and that he died for you.
00:13:22 Oh, no, they might become your friends.
00:13:24 Oh, no, the evils that are happening there.
00:13:27 It truly is spiritual warfare.
00:13:29 And I am just I'm really, really thankful that the Trump administration is taking this
00:13:34 seriously, and that they are shining a light on what these clinics are doing. These clinics have
00:13:40 been through so much, especially after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and more people
00:13:44 need to know about them. And Christian, especially if you consider yourself pro-choice. I mean,
00:13:49 certainly if you consider yourself pro-life, but if you consider yourself pro-choice or
00:13:53 holistically pro-life from womb to tomb or whatever, and you believe that it should be
00:13:59 legal to kill babies inside the womb because you think that there aren't enough resources for moms,
00:14:06 you've got no excuse to be sitting on your couch on Saturday morning. Get up, go to your local 0.98
00:14:11 pregnancy center. You be a part of the solution. Or maybe search your heart and ask yourself, 0.98
00:14:15 are you just looking for an excuse to be pro-abortion? Are you just looking for an excuse
00:14:22 to take the convenient position of being personally pro-life, but legally against the
00:14:27 right of babies to be protected from murder. Okay. That doesn't actually work, but it doesn't
00:14:34 actually work logically. But if you actually look inside yourself and see if there's any
00:14:39 consistency there, maybe you can just be a part of the solution and you can take away that excuse
00:14:44 for yourself. All right. We've got a very fitting sponsor before we get into the rest of this.
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00:14:57 gestation, that little baby inside the womb is the size of a coffee bean, yet he or she is fully
00:15:02 dignified and made in the image of God and therefore his or her life matters. And that
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00:15:12 They've raised, I believe it's probably almost $2 million at this point for these pregnancy
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00:15:43 code Allie. Okay, so that part of moms.gov is really great. Excited about that. We would have
00:15:54 never gotten that with a Kamala Harris administration. The part of moms.gov and really 1.00
00:15:59 just the fight against the fertility crisis that the Trump administration is waging, the part of
00:16:08 it that is really not good. And the reason that I can't say across the board, hey, if you're a part
00:16:14 of a pregnancy clinic, you should be promoting moms.gov or we should be sharing this indiscriminately 0.97
00:16:19 is because on moms.gov, the administration is promoting in vitro fertilization. Here's thought
00:16:27 three. Moms.gov is it is one-stop shopping or IVF for prenatal care, for postnatal care, 1.00
00:16:37 for nutrition, for baby formula, and of course for Trump Rx.
00:16:42 Okay, so IVF is something that is going to be promoted on this website, the White House
00:16:48 hosted, that's what you're seeing, their maternal health care event on Monday discussing the
00:16:52 moms.gov launch. Trump announced that the Department of Labor has proposed a new rule
00:16:57 that would create a new category of benefits to expand the ability of employers to offer
00:17:03 fertility benefits to employees. So according to the Maven Clinic, employer-sponsored programs
00:17:09 and services to support reproductive health benefits. Now, typically, reproductive health
00:17:14 has meant abortion. That is the euphemism that pro-abortion people use. So I'm already kind of
00:17:21 not liking that terminology. It goes on to say they can include financial assistance for fertility
00:17:26 treatments such as in vitro fertilization. I just want to say just the euphemisms again,
00:17:32 IVF is not a fertility treatment. Like it doesn't solve infertility, actually. It kind of tries to
00:17:39 get around the issue, but it doesn't solve the underlying cause of infertility. Also says coverage
00:17:46 for fertility medications and access to fertility specialists. Trump says that this is kind of like
00:17:53 dental insurance, SOT2. This will be a supplemental option available to those who need it, much like
00:17:59 vision or dental insurance. So we're bringing it right down into the mainstream.
00:18:04 by offering coverage for care at every step.
00:18:08 The fertility journey is a very interesting one,
00:18:12 very complex.
00:18:13 It was, and we're making it much simpler.
00:18:15 So this is not exactly new.
00:18:18 In October of 2025, the White House announced
00:18:20 that a medication for IVF and other medications
00:18:24 would be available at a discount through TrumpRx.
00:18:27 That's the government website that allows people
00:18:29 to purchase drugs directly from manufacturers.
00:18:31 So you bypass the middleman and you cut costs.
00:18:34 And so, again, easier to have access to IVF.
00:18:39 Trump has answered questions about this from the perspective of those who are critical of IVF.
00:18:46 And he said, I think this is very pro-life.
00:18:48 You can't get more pro-life than this.
00:18:51 So what is my issue with this?
00:18:53 If we're pro-life, aren't we pro-baby?
00:18:55 Like, don't we want people to have more children?
00:18:58 Don't we think that the fertility crisis is an issue?
00:19:01 Yes, I love babies. I do want married moms and dads to have children. I do. I want you to have
00:19:09 as many children as you possibly can, as God is calling you to. And the fertility crisis 0.91
00:19:16 certainly does worry me. There are a lot of practical problems with it. I think there are
00:19:20 a lot of moral and spiritual problems that the choice to forego children points to. But there
00:19:26 ours, we have talked about so many times on this podcast, many ethical considerations when it comes
00:19:32 to in vitro fertilization. IVF almost always creates extra embryos that are stored, that are
00:19:39 thrown away, that are frozen forever or used in experiments. Very often, this is a eugenic type
00:19:46 process where a couple will create more embryos than they could possibly transfer. So they might
00:19:52 create a dozen embryos, or sometimes it's only six embryos, but the couple really only wants 0.89
00:19:58 two or three children. But you make as many embryos as possible to get the best chance at a
00:20:03 healthy embryo as possible. What very often happens, and I'm saying caveats very often
00:20:09 because I know some of you out there are going to say, no, that wasn't our process, but the vast
00:20:13 majority of cases make as many embryos as you possibly can. Those embryos are then graded.
00:20:18 If there is any kind of chromosomal abnormality, so for example, if it's found that one of the
00:20:24 embryos has Down syndrome, those embryos are discarded. Sometimes the couple doesn't even
00:20:30 know that those embryos are being discarded. Or it is the embryos are tested for their gender.
00:20:40 And very often the couple will have the gender makeup that they have in mind. For example,
00:20:47 Paris Hilton made lots and lots of embryos and she just kept on making these boy embryos but she
00:20:53 really wanted a girl and so of course she's going to bypass the eight other boy embryos that she has
00:20:58 in a lab that she has frozen until she gets the girl so what happens to all of those embryos who
00:21:04 are unwanted because they're the wrong gender because they are they have down syndrome or they
00:21:10 have some kind of like trisomy 18 or 21 what happens to them well typically they are thrown
00:21:15 away. And morally for us, this is no different than abortion because we've been saying in the
00:21:21 pro-life movement for a very long time that Dr. Seuss line, a person is a person no matter how
00:21:26 small. Of course, we believe that. We have been saying that life starts at conception, that human
00:21:31 life scientifically, this is not a spiritual argument, starts at the moment of fertilization
00:21:37 that is a unique human life. And all human life is made in God's image. All human life is therefore
00:21:43 infinitely valuable. And therefore, what we do to him or her from that moment of conception
00:21:49 really matters. How we treat those who don't look to us like people, who don't sound to us like 0.81
00:21:56 people, who can contribute nothing, even at the earliest moment of their humanity, it matters to 0.97
00:22:02 the God who says that we are made in his image. Now, that is a spiritual argument, but I'm speaking
00:22:07 to Christians, and it's okay for us to say that. Far more embryos are discarded every year than
00:22:14 result in a life birth. In fact, only 7% of IVF cases actually lead to a live birth. There's this
00:22:22 article that I found, and this is just a few years old from NBC, talking about a fertility clinic
00:22:29 in Fort Myers, Florida. Hundreds of embryos sit in a frozen state of limbo. This is at one clinic,
00:22:37 abandoned in the center storage tanks by in vitro fertilization patients who once sought the help
00:22:43 of Sweets, that's the doctor's team, and their journey to become parents, then walked away.
00:22:49 Sweets is one of thousands of fertility doctors throughout the country grappling with what to do
00:22:53 with the embryos cast aside by former patients, many of whom worked for months, even years to
00:22:58 conceive. It's an unanticipated dilemma. 21%, this doctor says, 21% of our embryos
00:23:05 have been abandoned. So we're talking about at just one clinic, almost one fourth, almost a quarter
00:23:12 of the embryos have been abandoned. There are, it's estimated over a million. I bet it's closer
00:23:19 to 2 million, but it's estimated that over a million embryos are on ice in America. There
00:23:25 are all kinds of reasons for that. The parents end up getting the children that they want. They
00:23:30 have two or three children, they can't bear to throw their other embryos away. And so those
00:23:36 embryos just wait, just frozen on ice. Or sometimes there's divorce, there's relationship
00:23:41 problems. Sometimes the parents die. There are all kinds of unforeseen consequences to creating
00:23:49 children outside of the sexual act, creating them in a lab, putting them on ice. And I know a lot
00:23:55 of you out there, I've talked to you. You didn't intend that when you went through IVF, but now
00:24:01 you've got six to seven embryos on ice and you're not sure what to do. And there is something called
00:24:07 snowflake adoption where you could allow a Christian family to adopt these embryos. But at
00:24:13 the very least, this situation puts you in a moral conundrum, in a moral quandary. It is very
00:24:21 difficult, I think, to navigate this. And so for Christians, IVF should never be encouraged because
00:24:27 right away we are asking the children to sacrifice and to risk on our behalf. Having children is a
00:24:34 good desire, but it is not an ends justify all means desire. It is not a I'm going to do this
00:24:43 at whatever cost desire. There are still moral and ethical parameters. And so the first part is
00:24:49 how it treats embryos and the risk to the embryos and the risk of death, the risk of eugenics that 0.68
00:24:55 goes on, especially if we're going to subsidize it and make it even more accessible to people. 0.70
00:25:00 The embryonic death toll is just going to keep rising. I can't support that. I can't be a part
00:25:05 of that. Even if sometimes there are happy results for people, it's not worth risking the lives of
00:25:12 children. If I'm against abortion, I have to be against IVF. I do. I do. Those two things just
00:25:18 cannot go hand in hand. But then also IVF is used to create children for two men and two women. 0.93
00:25:26 It's a necessary step unless they are adopting, but to create a genetic child for two men or two
00:25:33 women, you have to use either a sperm or an egg cellar. In the men's case, you have to use a 0.92
00:25:39 surrogate and they have to go through the embryonic grading process, the discarding of embryos, 0.89
00:25:45 the transferring of embryos, and the very risky to the baby and the woman surrogacy process,
00:25:51 at least among two men, in order to have a child. And so I am assuming that these subsidies and this
00:26:00 program is also going to assist in helping surrogacy and helping IVF and the procurement 0.98
00:26:07 of children to be forced into a motherless or fatherless situation by LGBTQ couples. 1.00
00:26:14 And I just cannot be a part of that. 1.00
00:26:17 I just cannot support that.
00:26:19 I actually think that it's very evil that we are using our tax dollars to support motherless and fatherless children, forced motherless and fatherless children, and to pay for additional excess deaths of embryos via IVF.
00:26:37 And so I'm very happy on the one hand about what Trump is supporting when it comes to pregnancy centers.
00:26:43 But I am very disappointed on the other hand when it comes to the support of IVF and Katie Britt, who is standing behind him, their Republican senator from Alabama.
00:26:54 Like, I think that she should know better.
00:26:57 I don't really expect Trump to understand the moral intricacies of this issue, but I do expect a smart woman to know better.
00:27:04 And it's not a lack of compassion for people who can't have children.
00:27:08 It is a compassion for these small children who don't have a voice and who don't have any capital.
00:27:15 They don't have people sticking up for them because people don't think you're a person unless you look like a fully developed baby.
00:27:21 That's the battle we've been fighting when it comes to abortion.
00:27:24 It's the battle we've got to fight when it comes to IVF too.
00:27:27 And I know that hurts feelings and I don't want to hurt feelings.
00:27:30 I'm not trying to be vitriolic or divisive or whatever, but all of those names that someone
00:27:36 could call me, it's worth it for the sake of the babies on ice. It just is. All right, let me pause
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00:28:43 Just another thing about IVF is that it doesn't actually help the fertility crisis. Katie Faust,
00:28:50 she founded Them Before Us, which is a child's rights organization. She said the places that
00:28:57 have subsidized IVF don't actually see an increase in birth rates. It simply means women further 0.98
00:29:04 postpone childbearing rather than prioritizing it. This is not a solution to the fertility crisis, 0.54
00:29:09 but it does result in massive loss of human life. She's absolutely right about that. If you look at 0.97
00:29:16 Singapore, they've had a 40-year push of subsidized IVF. They subsidize up to 75% of reproductive
00:29:24 technology costs. However, Singapore's fertility rate dropped to 0.87 children per woman in 2025.
00:29:31 If you look at that chart, it's actually gone down since they started subsidizing IVF. Because
00:29:37 a lot of people, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of people are going through IVF because they
00:29:42 have waited, sometimes by choice, when they're in their 40s to have children. And that is past the
00:29:49 window of your prime that is past the window of when it is most likely to be able to have children
00:29:55 and that makes it difficult that again is not solving the fertility crisis there are root cause
00:30:01 problems to the fertility crisis that we have been talking about for a long time on the show you can
00:30:05 go back and listen to some of those episodes again ivf doesn't treat that it doesn't solve that
00:30:10 we've got moral spiritual issues going on a lot of it is because men and women just aren't getting
00:30:16 married. The vast majority of people are not getting married even by the time they're 30.
00:30:22 So again, that fertility window just gets smaller and smaller. And the reason that they're not
00:30:28 getting married, I think for a lot of people, maybe they don't find the right person. But I
00:30:33 also think it's just a lack of desire for commitment. Of course, as Christianity fades, 0.65
00:30:37 which has been the driver of monogamy and fruitfulness in having children, primarily for 0.93
00:30:43 a very long time. As that influence wanes, people's desire to sacrifice of themselves and
00:30:48 get married and have children is going to wane. I know for a lot of you, you are not child-free
00:30:53 by choice. You would love to have children. You are not marriage-free by choice. You would love
00:30:57 to get married. But I don't think that is true for a lot of the people who are not getting married
00:31:02 and not having kids. And then when you turn 38, you finally decide you want to do these things,
00:31:07 then it gets a lot harder. That is contributing to our fertility crisis. I think it has a lot
00:31:12 to do with a matter of priorities and choices and morals than it has to do with some of these other
00:31:18 factors. And it's certainly not going to be solved by IVF. Of course, we know what the Bible says
00:31:23 about the value of life inside the womb. The same verses that we use to speak out against abortion 0.89
00:31:28 as believers, as Christians, they're the same verses that we use to be against IVF. Jeremiah
00:31:35 1.5, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I consecrated you.
00:31:39 I appointed you a prophet to the nations.
00:31:41 He is talking to the prophet Jeremiah there, but it shows us a principle that God knows
00:31:46 us when we are in the womb, that our lives matter then.
00:31:50 Psalm 139, 13 through 14, for you formed my inward parts.
00:31:54 You knitted me together in my mother's womb.
00:31:56 I praise you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
00:31:59 Wonderful are your works.
00:32:00 My soul knows it very well.
00:32:01 And actually, we didn't include the most important verse in that passage that your eyes saw my
00:32:07 unformed substance, my unformed substance. So before I looked like a person, when I was just
00:32:15 what the left called a clump of cells, you saw me, you formed me, you were knitting me. And then of
00:32:21 course, Exodus 2013, you shall not murder. And I do believe that discarding embryos is murder.
00:32:27 And I do believe that allowing your children, who are your children, those embryos to be
00:32:33 indefinitely frozen on ice is not a way to treat a child. I think we have to have a much more
00:32:41 biblical, but just a much more moral and human look on IVF and not only prioritize adult desires,
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00:33:56 So, unfortunately, the state of abortion in America is not good.
00:34:02 Abortion has only increased since the Dobbs decision, the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
00:34:07 The vast majority of the abortions that are occurring are happening in those first few weeks of pregnancy.
00:34:14 And that is because of the rise in the prevalence of the abortion pill.
00:34:19 Under the Biden administration a few years ago, they removed the rule that said that you had to see a doctor or abortion provider in person before you could take the abortion pill.
00:34:29 It's a two-part abortion pill, misopristol and mifepristone.
00:34:34 And you would go home after confirming how far along you were and take these pills to abort your child, which, of course, is awful.
00:34:43 But at least when you see a doctor, there is a safeguard in place to know actually how far along you are and if it's going to be safe.
00:34:49 Well, the Biden administration, after the Dobbs decision allowed states to pass more pro-life laws, wanted to make it as easy as possible for women in Texas and these more pro-life states to be able to skirt those laws and to still be able to murder their babies no matter how far along they were.
00:35:06 And so now you go online and you order these abortion pills and you can kill your child, and it's very detrimental as well to the woman.
00:35:15 And unfortunately, the Trump administration has not reversed that rule.
00:35:19 The Trump administration is over the FDA, and they have decided to actually push back against the states like Louisiana, like Texas, like Florida,
00:35:26 who are trying very hard to ensure that that rule that the FDA has in place is reversed
00:35:34 so that these women have to see a doctor and have to confirm how far along they are in
00:35:41 their pregnancy before they can get the abortion pill. 1.00
00:35:46 And of course, we want the abortion pill off the market.
00:35:48 We don't want it to be sold at all, but you definitely should not be able to sell it online.
00:35:55 And unfortunately, because of this, because of the prevalence of the abortion pill, we have seen, we have this according to the Guttmacher Institute, that's Planned Parenthood's research arm. You can see that over the past couple of years, this chart shows that abortion actually has risen.
00:36:12 Now, it was rising before that. It looks like it was rising about 2015, started rising, rising, rising.
00:36:19 And then it's just continued to rise. It's actually plateaued over the past year or so.
00:36:25 And so lots of reasons for that. But certainly the circulation of the abortion pill and now the mail order abortions made possible first by the Biden administration,
00:36:35 but continued to be allowed by the Trump administration for reasons we do not fully
00:36:41 understand, that is probably the reason for that increase there. Today, we are talking to Dr.
00:36:49 Christina Francis, and she is an OBGYN of, I think, almost 20 years now. She is awesome. I've known
00:36:57 her for a while. She is the head of APLOG, and that is the American Association of Pro-Life
00:37:02 obstetricians and gynecologists. She's going to tell us about, unfortunately, where the Trump
00:37:08 administration has failed when it comes to this, but also what she did to go undercover to show us 0.93
00:37:16 just how easy it is to legally get abortion pills sent to your house without parental consent, 0.99
00:37:23 even if you are as young as 13. So she's going to fill us in on exactly what all of this means,
00:37:30 why this matters, and what we can do as pro-lifers to push this administration in the right
00:37:35 direction. That is one silver lining. I do think this administration can be pushed in the right
00:37:40 direction, unlike the Kamala Harris administration. So we've got to do what we can to raise a
00:37:45 respectful ruckus for the things that matter. All right, without further ado, here is Dr. Francis.
00:37:54 Dr. Francis, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. Okay, tell us about this ruling by
00:37:59 the Fifth Circuit of Appeals that has to do with mifepristone. Yes. Well, Allie, thank you for
00:38:05 having me back on again. It's so great to be with you. Yeah. On May 1st, we were really excited to
00:38:11 hear the ruling from the Fifth Circuit that while this case out of Louisiana over mifepristone is
00:38:18 working its way through the court, that the in-person dispensing requirement for mifepristone,
00:38:24 the abortion drug should be put back into place immediately because of the harm of it not being
00:38:30 there because of the harm that that's causing to states like Louisiana and also to women like 0.99
00:38:35 Rosalie Marquezich, who's one of the co-plaintiffs in this case, who was coerced into a chemical
00:38:41 abortion by her boyfriend who was able to order these drugs online, get a mail to him and then
00:38:48 sat in the car with her and really, it sounds like verbally threatened her. She was afraid of
00:38:55 physical harm if she didn't take these drugs and so was forced into an abortion that ended the life 0.79
00:39:00 of her child. And so thankfully the Fifth Circuit recognized that this is a real active danger to
00:39:09 state pro-life laws, but also to individual women who are being harmed and of course pre-born
00:39:14 children who are being harmed by these drugs. And so the Fifth Circuit said, while this case is
00:39:19 making its way through the court, we need that in-person dispensing requirement back immediately.
00:39:24 Right, right. But then what happened at the Supreme Court?
00:39:28 Yes. Well, so keeping in mind, I am not an attorney, but I have lots of friends who are,
00:39:32 and they have given me the wording to recap this. So what happened was then that Fifth Circuit
00:39:38 decision was immediately appealed to the Supreme Court by the abortion drug manufacturer.
00:39:44 So Danco and Jen Biopro, whose sole financial product, I know for Danco, but I believe for Jen Biopro as well, is the abortion drug Bifepristone.
00:39:53 So they immediately appealed to the Supreme Court.
00:39:56 And then earlier this week, Justice Alito, because he makes decisions on any appeals that come through the Fifth Circuit,
00:40:04 Justice Alito just said, we're going to put a pause for a few days on what the Fifth Circuit said.
00:40:11 and we want to hear from all of the parties involved.
00:40:14 We want to get briefs from all of the parties involved.
00:40:17 And then it seems like because the Supreme Court's stay
00:40:20 on the Fifth Circuit's decision
00:40:21 is set to go through this coming Monday, May 11th,
00:40:26 it seems that they just want to hear all the information
00:40:30 and then the Supreme Court will actually rule
00:40:32 as to whether the Fifth Circuit decision can stand.
00:40:35 And tell me why it is so important
00:40:37 to require this in-person visit.
00:40:40 Obviously, we don't want any babies to be killed with the abortion pill at all, but this in-person visit requirement is a really important, not only deterrent possibly, but also just to preserve the safety of the women who are seeking to use this abortion pill, right?
00:41:01 Yes, absolutely.
00:41:02 So we know at its baseline, this abortion drug, mifepristone, is inherently dangerous.
00:41:07 It's four times more dangerous than surgical abortions.
00:41:10 But that's when it's being dispensed in person, when a woman has an in-person evaluation by a medical professional who ensures they know how far along she is in her pregnancy, ensures that she does not have an ectopic pregnancy, which is life-threatening to her, and ensures that she is actually the one who wants the abortion, that it's not someone forcing her into that.
00:41:31 You know, if we take sort of a 30,000 foot view, one of the reasons that this in-person dispensing requirement is important is because without it, abortion is essentially legal in all 50 states right now.
00:41:43 This is a federal mandate that is overriding all state pro-life laws right now.
00:41:48 In fact, the state of Louisiana, the main plaintiff in this case, has documented that they, even though abortion is illegal, a thousand abortions a month are happening in just the state of Louisiana because of these drugs.
00:42:00 So on a macro level, in order to respect state pro-life laws, this in-person dispensing requirement needs to be put back into place.
00:42:08 But on an individual level, as you said, women getting these drugs through the mail is extremely dangerous.
00:42:15 Without that evaluation, we know that for every week beyond really about eight weeks of pregnancy that a woman takes these drugs,
00:42:22 her risks increase exponentially of hemorrhage or massive bleeding, infection, the need for
00:42:29 emergency surgery, and even just a few weeks can make a huge difference. So at 10 weeks of pregnancy, 0.60
00:42:35 her risk of needing a surgical completion of her abortion is about one in 10. If she takes them 0.98
00:42:41 just three weeks later at 13 weeks of pregnancy, that jumps to one in three. So that's a really
00:42:47 significant difference in her risk. And we know even the American College of OBGYNs, who's very
00:42:52 pro-abortion, and by the way, filed an amicus brief in this case, going, siding with the abortion
00:42:58 industry. But even they say that up to 50% of women will be wrong about how far along they are
00:43:05 in their pregnancy, just based on, you know, going off of their last period without an ultrasound,
00:43:10 without an in-person exam. And of course, Rosalie's story and many others like hers
00:43:15 highlight the fact that abusers are getting these drugs online, men are getting these drugs who
00:43:23 obviously are not pregnant, and they're forcing them on their wives, on their girlfriends. 0.53
00:43:28 And so I think even somebody who may say that they support a woman's quote unquote right to 0.94
00:43:33 an abortion should certainly be opposed to abortion being forced on a woman that doesn't
00:43:38 want them or doesn't want an abortion. And then finally, as you said, we know that the
00:43:44 reinstatement of this in-person dispensing requirement would also lead to saving more
00:43:49 lives of pre-born children. We would see the abortion numbers go down, which we have seen go up
00:43:54 significantly since the Dobbs decision, in particular because of the lack of an in-person
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00:45:14 If you think about in non-abortion terms, everyone knows that it's easier to spend money when you buy
00:45:22 something on Amazon versus going in person. Like if you have to go buy something in person and try
00:45:28 it on or buy a piece of furniture in person, most people aren't going to do it. They're going to
00:45:33 think twice about it. And then they go in person and they think, well, you know what? I don't even
00:45:37 know if I, if I want to go through with this. I don't know if I have the money for it. I don't
00:45:40 know if I have the space for it. There are all kinds of things that you think about when you're
00:45:43 in person that you don't think about when you're just clicking a couple of times online. Well,
00:45:48 I think you multiply that when it comes to abortion, especially if you have a woman who
00:45:52 is pressured, especially if you have someone in a crisis situation, really easy to make that click,
00:45:57 to take those pills, not even know how far along you are. And of course, as you said,
00:46:01 I think it just exacerbates trafficking, abuse, all kinds of things.
00:46:06 Now, I'm seeing that the CEO of Reproductive Freedom for All, obviously euphemism for abortion,
00:46:12 she is saying that some abortion providers are saying that they might use, is it misoprostol?
00:46:20 Is that how you pronounce it?
00:46:21 Misoprostol.
00:46:23 Misoprostol.
00:46:24 That they might be using that by itself without using mifepristone if mifepristone is not
00:46:30 available.
00:46:30 that also is very dangerous for women, right? It is. It is. And this is not something new.
00:46:36 It's something that the abortion industry has done internationally for many, many years is
00:46:42 mesoprostol-only abortions. One of the reasons why mifepristone was developed was because
00:46:47 of the incomplete abortion rate or where all of the baby and all of the pregnancy tissues don't
00:46:54 pass out of the woman's uterus, that rate for mesoprostol alone abortions is significantly 0.92
00:47:00 higher than when you add mifepristone. So it is more dangerous to women. It will lead to more
00:47:06 complications. And I think the fact that the abortion industry is already pivoting to that
00:47:11 shows that all they care about are more abortions. They couldn't care less about women's health and
00:47:17 women's safety. They obviously don't care about the health and safety of pre-born children. 0.97
00:47:21 And I think this, they really have shown their hand in this, in that they care about their profits, they don't care about patients, which is exactly the opposite of what healthcare is meant to be and to do.
00:47:33 And Allie, if I can just return real quickly to something that you mentioned right before that, in that, you know, we think a little less when we go on Amazon, for instance, to buy something online.
00:47:44 I want to highlight the fact, because I think that there's a lot of people, even on the pro-life side, that don't fully understand this, that when women or whomever is going online to buy these pills to be shipped through the mail to them, it truly is like an Amazon experience.
00:47:59 So oftentimes they're called telehealth or telemedicine abortions, but telehealth or telemedicine means a patient is talking to a medical professional through like a Zoom call.
00:48:09 That is not what's happening on these websites. And in fact, Applog put out an expose video recently where I got online onto one of these sites and I put in every medical reason why someone should not be given these pills, things that make them very much life threatening.
00:48:27 In the end, I was a 13-year-old with three previous C-sections and IUD in place on blood thinners in the state of Indiana where abortion is illegal.
00:48:37 And after I submitted my request, which they said would be reviewed by a health care professional, before I received the payment link, within a minute and a half, I got the payment link.
00:48:45 So obviously, no medical professional is reviewing this.
00:48:49 And in two days, they were in my mailbox in the state of Indiana.
00:48:53 And it should be noted that the pills came from or the pills were were pills that were made by Jen Biopro, who is one of the abortion drug companies involved in this lawsuit.
00:49:03 And they came from a random address in Los Angeles, California.
00:49:06 So I legitimately as a 13 year old could have died had I taken those pills and actually been pregnant.
00:49:13 So I think it's really, really important.
00:49:16 One of my big things that I'm trying to convince people of is don't call these telehealth or telemedicine abortions.
00:49:21 They are not. There is no health care whatsoever involved. There's no medical oversight. These truly are mail order abortions like a shopping online shopping experience. That is all that's happening. Women are not getting informed consent and they're having no medical oversight whatsoever.
00:49:38 Would it be accurate to say that abortion is more accessible than ever because of this? 0.99
00:49:43 Oh, 100%.
00:49:45 And this was the abortion industry's plan all along.
00:49:48 They saw the overturn of Roe coming.
00:49:51 They started laying the groundwork for this all the way back in 2000 when this drug was originally approved in the U.S.
00:49:57 Their goal was to always make it accessible like this and ultimately to make it over the counter, which is their next move.
00:50:04 Now, I would argue it's essentially over the counter right now the way it's available online.
00:50:08 But there are already studies coming out in major medical journals from abortionists about why it would be safe for this to be dispensed over the counter.
00:50:16 That is ultimately their goal, that every person who wants to get their hands on abortion drugs will be able to do so with no medical evaluation, no follow-up, and just abandoning women to their local emergency rooms and obviously ending the lives of hundreds of thousands of pre-born children in this country every year.
00:50:36 And by the way, no parental knowledge. I mean, forget about consent. You were a 13 year old in your undercover operation and the parents didn't have to sign off or say anything. And so like your little girl, I mean, your teenage daughter could walk into their plan is to walk into a CVS, potentially die, not to mention her child die gruesomely because of this.
00:51:01 Now, we know that this comes from a Biden-era FDA rule that said you don't have to have this in-person requirement, but the Trump administration, FDA, has not done what we need them to do, correct, in reversing this rule.
00:51:16 No, they haven't.
00:51:16 In fact, it's been a huge disappointment that not only because this is an administration
00:51:22 who claims to be the most pro-life administration in history, but also because it just is good
00:51:29 medicine and good science to reverse the Biden era decision to remove that in-person
00:51:35 dispensing requirement.
00:51:36 And in fact, the Trump DOJ and FDA are actively fighting the state of Louisiana in this lawsuit
00:51:44 and asking for it to be dismissed while they do their supposed safety review that they've
00:51:50 supposedly been doing since last year. It should have been done by now. And many groups like APLOG,
00:51:56 the group that I represent, have been demanding to see results and see results soon of the safety
00:52:02 review and for full transparency of what data they used in their safety review. They have claimed
00:52:08 that the in-person dispensing requirement should not be put back into place while the safety review
00:52:13 is being done, there is no medical or scientific reason why they couldn't simultaneously put back
00:52:19 into place the pre-2023 in-person dispensing requirement and continue to do their safety
00:52:26 review. And I think most disappointingly for me recently, there was an article in the Wall Street
00:52:31 Journal that had a quote from FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, who said essentially that he doesn't
00:52:38 even really think about abortion pills. That was a punch in the gut for me. Because, you know,
00:52:45 again, even if it's not somebody who claims to be pro-life, the FDA's job is to ensure that any
00:52:51 drug that is approved in the United States is safe for people to take and is being dispensed
00:52:56 in a safe way. And that is not what's happening with mifepristone. I've had Dr. McCary on this
00:53:02 show appreciate, you know, some of the things that he did in COVID. But as you said, this is not only
00:53:07 a moral issue, obviously, but this is a health issue. And this is something that HHS, the FDA
00:53:13 is supposed to really care about. Also has environmental impacts to RFK Jr. So there's
00:53:18 a lot going on here. Thank you so much. I am so thankful for you, Dr. Francis, and for APLOG,
00:53:23 all the advocacy that you guys do. You might not be an attorney, but you did an excellent job at
00:53:27 explaining what's going on in the court. So thank you so much, Dr. Francis. Encourage everyone to
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00:53:37 Thank you so much.
00:53:39 Absolutely.
00:53:39 Thank you, Allie Beth.
00:53:45 All right, we only have a few minutes left,
00:53:47 but I wanted to save some time
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00:53:55 So we're gonna talk about the Odyssey in just a second.
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00:55:28 I wonder what we're making. We're probably making like, I don't know, sourdough bread or something
00:55:33 like that. Okay. Lifestyle pitter patter for you. We're going to talk about The Odyssey. Now people
00:55:38 are really excited or they were really excited about The Odyssey, the movie that's supposed to
00:55:42 come out in July directed by Christopher Nolan. This is the person who is very famous for directing
00:55:47 things like Interstellar, Oppenheimer. So he's got a good repertoire of work, but people are
00:55:53 very disappointed by this because it doesn't seem at all like he is trying to match the characters
00:56:00 of the Odyssey and how they were described in the book to the actors and actresses that he chose for
00:56:07 this movie. So for example, we've got Helen of Troy. Helen of Troy is reportedly being played
00:56:11 by Lupita Nyong'o. Okay, very, very beautiful woman. Nothing against her. She's probably a
00:56:18 wonderful actress. The problem here is that this seems to be blackwashing a character who clearly
00:56:25 was supposed to be white and blonde. She is described by Homer as white-armed, emphasizing 0.96
00:56:31 pale, smooth arms, fair-haired, so blonde. And the person who played her in Troy, this was in the
00:56:40 early 2000s, looked like that. You know, she had blonde hair, blue eyes, was fair-skinned, and so
00:56:46 it seemed like they were trying to match how Homer actually described Helen, the face that
00:56:50 launched a thousand ships. And then we've got Achilles. Achilles is being played by Juno.
00:57:00 Okay. Being played. You can't even tell who that is right there. But that is Ellen Page,
00:57:06 who now goes by Elliot Page, who is a very sad story of someone who thinks that she is a man.
00:57:11 And then we think from the trailer that she is playing Achilles.
00:57:19 Now, Homer describes Achilles as the ideal heroic warrior, youthful, powerful, imposing.
00:57:26 Now, you'll remember that Brad Pitt, maybe you'll remember this, played Achilles in the
00:57:30 2004 iteration of Troy.
00:57:34 That is probably what we picture when we are reading the description of him in the Iliad,
00:57:40 for example, like he has light golden fair hair. So probably like Brad Pitt, I just am not
00:57:47 picturing five to Ellen Page as playing Achilles, but we'll see. Um, also, uh, we'll see if that's
00:57:55 actually true, if it's actually Achilles, but I can't imagine it being, um, a good casting if
00:58:01 she is playing a man at all. Rapper Travis Scott, okay. Is playing a bard and I don't know if he
00:58:09 has any acting experience maybe he has a ton of acting chops and he's like gonna be awesome at
00:58:13 this i don't know this is like a hamiltonification of history now we're just doing this i actually
00:58:19 really enjoyed hamilton like musically i thought it was really good and creative and fun i still
00:58:25 listen to it but now we're just doing this to every piece of literature and history so christopher
00:58:31 nolan defended this decision of casting travis scott stating i cast him because i wanted to nod
00:58:36 towards the idea that this story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.
00:58:42 Okay, that's a choice. That is certainly a choice. And then apparently there's modern language
00:58:48 used in this book. SOT7. You're pining for a daddy you didn't even know. Like some sniffling
00:58:57 pastor. My dad is coming home. Weird. Just a little weird. I mean,
00:59:03 I guess they always use modern language because you're, they're probably not doing just exactly
00:59:10 the lines, uh, from the original books, but they're trying to Gen Z-ify it with the like
00:59:15 daddy language. Okay. And then people are also pointing out Anne Hathaway, who is an incredible
00:59:20 actress, by the way. I, I know there's a lot of Anne Hathaway hate out there. She's an incredible 0.66
00:59:26 actress. She was so good in Les Mis, y'all. But anyway, they're talking about how she obviously
00:59:31 has Botox and so she can't express her face in the same way. This has been a topic of conversation a
00:59:39 lot on movie X and how the Botox and the fillers and everything is actually changing acting and
00:59:45 is changing the sincerity, the genuineness of these portrayals that are supposed to be historic
00:59:53 when obviously these things didn't exist. You know where I first noticed this in, was it,
01:00:00 is it 1884? Is that the, is that the followup to Yellowstone? The one with the girl and the
01:00:07 Tim McGraw and the Faith Hill? I think it's 1884. Anyway, I enjoyed it. I thought that Tim McGraw
01:00:13 and Faith Hill did great, but Faith Hill, as beautiful as she is, she looks like a very
01:00:17 modern woman. I'll say that. She is a product of our times. And I had a very hard time placing her 0.84
01:00:25 like on the trail in the 19th century because of how she looks and that's just unfortunate
01:00:31 also you just can't show your emotions if you can't move your eyebrows and I think that's very
01:00:36 important for acting it's okay to age in Hathaway it really is I don't know maybe there are some
01:00:42 weird people who don't think it is but I think it's okay to age and I love acting like I love
01:00:47 acting and I love watching great acting and it actually makes me really really sad that all of
01:00:53 these incredible performers that their face is frozen permanently and that they can't do their
01:00:58 jobs well and therefore we're not served well and so here you go the patriarchy is winning again
01:01:04 because only the men are going to be able to express their emotions well and they're going
01:01:08 to be better actors than you are you going to let them win Anne Hathaway don't get Botox next time
01:01:14 skip your next appointment let us see the disappointment in your eyebrows all right
01:01:20 that's all I got time for today I will be back here on Friday
01:01:22 We'll be right back.