Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1346 ｜ Moms.gov： Trump’s New Website Has One Flaw

00:00:00.480 The Trump administration has launched an awesome initiative to help expectant moms.

00:00:05.980 Unfortunately, there are parts of it that I just cannot get on board with.

00:00:10.700 In fact, there are two things when it comes to life inside the wound that the Trump administration

00:00:15.160 is doing right now that I'm very concerned about.

00:00:18.820 We are going to get into all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable.

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00:00:38.780 code Allie. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful

00:00:52.680 week so far. Okay. A couple of things that I want to say before we get into today's episode.

00:00:57.760 got quite the response to Monday's episode about this trend of going no contact or cutting off

00:01:03.680 your parents. And the stories that I heard on both sides of this issue were heartbreaking for a lot

00:01:10.420 of reasons. So on the one hand, I got a lot of people saying that they have siblings, they have

00:01:16.440 parents, they have children, they have cousins that have cut them off really for no good reason

00:01:22.640 because of a disagreement or because they just didn't like their tone, very arbitrary surface

00:01:27.920 level reasons. And in some cases it was just mysterious. Someone super close to you, blood

00:01:33.420 related even, cut you off. You have no contact with them, with their children for reasons that

00:01:39.860 you may never know. And for that set of people, the episode that I put out really hit home and

00:01:46.320 kind of helped them understand where this is coming from, why this has become a trend,

00:01:51.200 the psychologizing of difficulties in relationships has made this worse. And then there was another

00:01:57.040 set of people who really did not feel represented properly by my message. And while I do feel like

00:02:04.080 I put in caveats and some nuances there, I think that I could have been more clear and could have

00:02:11.520 gotten to the point more quickly that there are reasons, could be good reasons to no longer have

00:02:17.920 a relationship with someone that you have in your family. And that for many of you, that decision

00:02:24.820 did not come easily. It did not come because of politics. It did not come arbitrarily, but that

00:02:30.680 it was actually a very difficult decision for you to make for the well-being of your family and the

00:02:35.960 well-being of your children. So I understand that. And maybe I'll do a part two. As I was listening

00:02:41.700 back to it, I felt like I could have gotten to a resolution or a solution more quickly. I think I

00:02:46.980 could have been a little bit more clear that, hey, there are actually abusive patterns of

00:02:52.120 behaviors, whether it's physical abuse or, and we could get into this whole terminology, but true

00:02:58.180 emotional abuse that could justify for a season of time, no communication with a particular person.

00:03:07.960 And then I also could have gotten to that, hey, here's what the Bible actually has to say about

00:03:13.120 our parental relationships. It's not a covenant relationship. It is an obligation to honor our

00:03:18.660 father and mother, but honoring father and mother and having a spirit of reconciliation and

00:03:24.300 forgiveness is not the same thing as access. It's not the same thing as a physical presence with

00:03:29.360 you or a physical presence, especially with your children. And so I still think it's a very

00:03:34.520 important episode for you to listen to and to watch. There were people who reached out to me

00:03:39.700 and said that they have had these very, very troubling and traumatic relationships and they

00:03:45.400 found the episode to be accurate and helpful and all of that. We're always going to have a variety

00:03:50.500 of opinions and a variety of perspectives, especially on a hot topic. But it is important

00:03:56.420 for me to listen to you and to weigh the things that you have to say, especially those of you who

00:04:01.780 are coming to me in a spirit of understanding and trying to help me understand. And so I think at

00:04:09.580 the very least, that episode needs a part two. But everything that we said in there is true.

00:04:15.960 And there is certainly the spirit of TikTokification of our relationships that I do 1.00

00:04:22.440 think is very damaging. And the mentality that we focused on of, hey, I have to do what's best for 0.52

00:04:28.580 me, even if it hurts my parents or even if it hurts this very important relationship in my life

00:04:36.180 is not the spirit of Christianity,

00:04:37.980 but there could be good biblical reasons,

00:04:40.760 unfortunately, why you have to have a cessation

00:04:44.940 of a relationship for a period of time.

00:04:46.840 So anyway, I just wanted to kind of say that

00:04:49.920 because I know there was a lot of conversation

00:04:51.640 on my social media and on YouTube

00:04:53.780 about the different points that were made in that episode.

00:04:56.560 If you haven't listened to it,

00:04:57.460 if you haven't watched it yet, go back to it.

00:04:59.720 Give me your honest feedback and what you think about it.

00:05:02.460 Try to make it through the entire thing though,

00:05:04.360 because we do try to give as many caveats as we can

00:05:07.260 while still making a clear point

00:05:09.260 about the importance of honoring our parents

00:05:11.260 and maintaining those relationships.

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00:05:36.360 All right, now we are going to get into today's episode, which is also a controversial topic

00:05:40.840 because we will be talking about IVF and the Trump administration, some of the goods they

00:05:45.780 have done on the pro-life front that I, as a pro-lifer, am very excited about, and then

00:05:50.980 some of the things that Trump is very morally confused about and some efforts that the Trump

00:05:55.880 administration has made that are simply not pro-life, not only when it comes to the pushing

00:06:01.600 of the subsidizing of in vitro fertilization, which we'll get into, but also their stance on

00:06:08.340 the abortion pill and how they have gotten in the way of pro-life efforts to make it more difficult

00:06:13.980 to access this murderous medication, which is now responsible for the majority of abortion.

00:06:20.060 So let's get into the good first, and then we'll get into the complicated, and we'll get into the

00:06:24.860 straight up bad. So moms.gov is a good and new initiative by the Trump administration,

00:06:31.080 and it's a website that supports mothers and families. On Mother's Day, the White House

00:06:36.200 launched this new website, and they announced this, and it helps expectant moms find nearby

00:06:42.120 pregnancy care centers. You guys know that these pregnancy centers are near and dear to my heart.

00:06:48.540 This is the majority of the speaking engagements that I do. I go to these pro-life banquets and

00:06:54.620 fundraisers where they invite me to just give a message of encouragement, but really it's an

00:06:58.540 encouragement to me because I see how God is working through the mostly unseen and unsung

00:07:03.700 work of these pregnancy centers, of these pro-life Christians all across the nation and the deepest

00:07:09.160 blue cities and rural areas in the South, in the North, everywhere. God is working through these

00:07:14.900 pregnancy care centers to give women truth, to give them resources, to connect them to believers

00:07:20.320 and to lead them to the gospel.

00:07:22.100 It's amazing what God is doing 0.99

00:07:24.080 through these pregnancy centers.

00:07:25.400 And I am so glad that the Trump administration

00:07:27.540 is shining a light on that. 0.75

00:07:29.180 So moms.gov provides information and nutrition 0.56

00:07:31.780 on nutrition and wellness for healthy pregnancies. 0.72

00:07:35.680 They've got information like dietary guidelines,

00:07:38.040 breastfeeding education, mental health support.

00:07:40.940 And so you hear so much.

00:07:42.960 Yeah, there it is.

00:07:43.740 If you're watching moms.gov, resources, information,

00:07:46.280 help for new and expecting mothers.

00:07:48.500 Love that so much.

00:07:49.020 you hear so much from the pro-abortion side. You guys only care about being pro-birth. You guys

00:07:54.200 are just trying to control women's bodies. You don't care at all about what happens to women 0.99

00:08:00.700 and what happens to their babies after birth. First of all, that's always been untrue. That's

00:08:04.640 always been untrue. If you are worried about women not having the resources that they need

00:08:10.540 when they're in a crisis pregnancy situation, I better see you at your local pregnancy center.

00:08:15.060 Most people complaining, oh, these women don't have the resources that they need. 0.95

00:08:18.560 they're not showing up on Saturdays to help these women at the pregnancy centers get the baby 1.00

00:08:25.180 supplies and the items that they need. They're not donating to their local pregnancy centers.

00:08:29.320 Typically, what pro-choicers and pro-aborts mean by that is in order to support these women,

00:08:34.500 you have to outsource your compassion to the government. Typically, what they mean

00:08:38.700 exclusively is that the government needs to step in and expand these programs that so often

00:08:43.460 are actually counterproductive and aren't actually helping moms have the resources that 1.00

00:08:48.680 they need to survive. And by the way, government funded resources for those who are below the

00:08:54.140 poverty line are already abundant. So it's typically just an excuse to be pro-choice

00:08:59.940 and be pro-abortion. But look, we have right here, we have the Trump administration is giving

00:09:05.220 the options available to women to make sure that they have the support that they need to choose

00:09:10.520 life and to raise their babies. If the left were really about supporting women and they were really

00:09:17.800 about moms and babies, it would have been the Biden administration who created moms.gov. It 0.98

00:09:24.240 would have been a Democrat-led effort to make sure that moms have the resources that they need. But 1.00

00:09:28.940 oh, it's the just pro-birthers that are doing it. Now, the Biden administration leading the charge

00:09:35.340 for, you know, taking care of women and their babies, they created their own website in 2022,

00:09:41.840 ReproductiveRights.gov. That connected pregnant women to abortion providers, such as Planned

00:09:48.580 Parenthood. Their initiative provided answers for women and families dealing with unexpected

00:09:54.720 pregnancies. That's what they said. Of course, that's euphemistic. All they mean is that,

00:09:59.760 hey, we want it to be easier for you to kill your child. So on the one hand, we've got Democrats 0.99

00:10:04.700 saying your solution to your problems

00:10:06.700 if you're in an unexpected pregnancy situation 1.00

00:10:09.860 is to kill your baby. 0.99

00:10:11.420 Here, we'll make it as easy as possible to do that. 1.00

00:10:14.360 On the Republican side,

00:10:16.640 you've got the Republicans,

00:10:18.300 the Trump administration saying,

00:10:19.940 hey, we're gonna help you figure this out.

00:10:22.600 Like, we'll help you figure out the adoption process

00:10:26.440 if that's what you wanna do.

00:10:27.520 We'll help you figure out parenting

00:10:28.980 if that's what you wanna do.

00:10:30.700 We're gonna connect you to life-affirming resources.

00:10:33.580 okay so when people say oh republicans and democrats are the same they're equally evil

00:10:39.900 they're both pro-life in their own ways no one is pro-death like one is pro-murder of your babies

00:10:46.700 and one is trying uh imperfectly by the way but one is trying to make it is make it more possible

00:10:55.560 and make it more plausible for women to be able to choose life in 2022 you might remember that

00:11:02.200 After the leak of the Dobbs decision, the Roe v. Wade reversal decision, pro-abortion activists attacked more than 100 pregnancy centers across the country, including firebombings, arson, vandalism.

00:11:14.660 We've got some pictures of that.

00:11:16.180 It says if abortion isn't safe, the graffiti says, then neither are you. 0.96

00:11:21.900 This is Jane's Revenge. 0.98

00:11:23.600 They're a terrorist organization that tried to ruin these pregnancy centers, could have killed people if people had been inside.

00:11:31.120 And just as a reminder, the Biden administration sentenced these perpetrators of Jane's revenge to an average of 12 months in prison, while peaceful pro-lifers like Joan Bell, 74-year-old grandmother, she and others like her were sentenced to two-plus years in prison.

00:11:49.720 And so, of course, unequal weights and measures there. You get rewarded if you are pro-abortion by Democrats, and you get punished if you are pro-life by Democrats.

00:12:00.700 So again, I just want to say that both sides are not the same.

00:12:04.800 Moms.gov also highlights the pregnancy care centers and the specific work they are providing,

00:12:11.760 like free ultrasounds, like parenting classes.

00:12:14.900 They connect you to adoption resources.

00:12:17.360 They'll help you with Medicaid if that's something that you need.

00:12:22.220 They provide free counseling.

00:12:23.700 I have told many, many stories of the incredible testimonies of women who have walked into these pregnancy centers and their lives have been changed by the love and the help that they have received there.

00:12:39.440 And so really the hate and the terrorism that pregnancy centers have received from the left, the lies that have been told about them in the media, you've got people like Elizabeth Warren.

00:12:51.040 We did like a satirical video several years ago about Elizabeth Warren because Elizabeth Warren said she was going to go into these pregnancy centers and she was going to show what's really going on.

00:13:00.760 And so I put my Elizabeth Warren wig on and I went into a local pregnancy center to show you what's really going on.

00:13:06.560 And oh, no, they give free baby clothes away.

00:13:10.020 Oh, no, they're offering free ultrasounds.

00:13:12.560 Oh, no, they offer free pregnancy tests and prenatal vitamins.

00:13:16.660 Oh, no, they're so kind in there.

00:13:18.360 And they might tell you that Jesus loves you and that he died for you.

00:13:22.060 Oh, no, they might become your friends.

00:13:24.880 Oh, no, the evils that are happening there.

00:13:27.400 It truly is spiritual warfare.

00:13:29.200 And I am just I'm really, really thankful that the Trump administration is taking this

00:13:34.300 seriously, and that they are shining a light on what these clinics are doing. These clinics have

00:13:40.760 been through so much, especially after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and more people

00:13:44.780 need to know about them. And Christian, especially if you consider yourself pro-choice. I mean,

00:13:49.700 certainly if you consider yourself pro-life, but if you consider yourself pro-choice or

00:13:53.840 holistically pro-life from womb to tomb or whatever, and you believe that it should be

00:13:59.300 legal to kill babies inside the womb because you think that there aren't enough resources for moms,

00:14:06.180 you've got no excuse to be sitting on your couch on Saturday morning. Get up, go to your local 0.98

00:14:11.120 pregnancy center. You be a part of the solution. Or maybe search your heart and ask yourself, 0.98

00:14:15.580 are you just looking for an excuse to be pro-abortion? Are you just looking for an excuse

00:14:22.340 to take the convenient position of being personally pro-life, but legally against the

00:14:27.620 right of babies to be protected from murder. Okay. That doesn't actually work, but it doesn't

00:14:34.340 actually work logically. But if you actually look inside yourself and see if there's any

00:14:39.480 consistency there, maybe you can just be a part of the solution and you can take away that excuse

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00:15:43.800 code Allie. Okay, so that part of moms.gov is really great. Excited about that. We would have

00:15:54.620 never gotten that with a Kamala Harris administration. The part of moms.gov and really 1.00

00:15:59.600 just the fight against the fertility crisis that the Trump administration is waging, the part of

00:16:08.800 it that is really not good. And the reason that I can't say across the board, hey, if you're a part

00:16:14.280 of a pregnancy clinic, you should be promoting moms.gov or we should be sharing this indiscriminately 0.97

00:16:19.840 is because on moms.gov, the administration is promoting in vitro fertilization. Here's thought

00:16:27.120 three. Moms.gov is it is one-stop shopping or IVF for prenatal care, for postnatal care, 1.00

00:16:37.760 for nutrition, for baby formula, and of course for Trump Rx.

00:16:42.940 Okay, so IVF is something that is going to be promoted on this website, the White House

00:16:48.320 hosted, that's what you're seeing, their maternal health care event on Monday discussing the

00:16:52.780 moms.gov launch. Trump announced that the Department of Labor has proposed a new rule

00:16:57.480 that would create a new category of benefits to expand the ability of employers to offer

00:17:03.020 fertility benefits to employees. So according to the Maven Clinic, employer-sponsored programs

00:17:09.400 and services to support reproductive health benefits. Now, typically, reproductive health

00:17:14.560 has meant abortion. That is the euphemism that pro-abortion people use. So I'm already kind of

00:17:21.000 not liking that terminology. It goes on to say they can include financial assistance for fertility

00:17:26.120 treatments such as in vitro fertilization. I just want to say just the euphemisms again,

00:17:32.000 IVF is not a fertility treatment. Like it doesn't solve infertility, actually. It kind of tries to

00:17:39.280 get around the issue, but it doesn't solve the underlying cause of infertility. Also says coverage

00:17:46.440 for fertility medications and access to fertility specialists. Trump says that this is kind of like

00:17:53.420 dental insurance, SOT2. This will be a supplemental option available to those who need it, much like

00:17:59.860 vision or dental insurance. So we're bringing it right down into the mainstream.

00:18:04.160 by offering coverage for care at every step.

00:18:08.820 The fertility journey is a very interesting one,

00:18:12.180 very complex.

00:18:13.440 It was, and we're making it much simpler.

00:18:15.840 So this is not exactly new.

00:18:18.200 In October of 2025, the White House announced

00:18:20.600 that a medication for IVF and other medications

00:18:24.120 would be available at a discount through TrumpRx.

00:18:27.540 That's the government website that allows people

00:18:29.620 to purchase drugs directly from manufacturers.

00:18:31.680 So you bypass the middleman and you cut costs.

00:18:34.480 And so, again, easier to have access to IVF.

00:18:39.980 Trump has answered questions about this from the perspective of those who are critical of IVF.

00:18:46.760 And he said, I think this is very pro-life.

00:18:48.840 You can't get more pro-life than this.

00:18:51.720 So what is my issue with this?

00:18:53.100 If we're pro-life, aren't we pro-baby?

00:18:55.040 Like, don't we want people to have more children?

00:18:58.120 Don't we think that the fertility crisis is an issue?

00:19:01.140 Yes, I love babies. I do want married moms and dads to have children. I do. I want you to have

00:19:09.320 as many children as you possibly can, as God is calling you to. And the fertility crisis 0.91

00:19:16.000 certainly does worry me. There are a lot of practical problems with it. I think there are

00:19:20.320 a lot of moral and spiritual problems that the choice to forego children points to. But there

00:19:26.960 ours, we have talked about so many times on this podcast, many ethical considerations when it comes

00:19:32.320 to in vitro fertilization. IVF almost always creates extra embryos that are stored, that are

00:19:39.700 thrown away, that are frozen forever or used in experiments. Very often, this is a eugenic type

00:19:46.580 process where a couple will create more embryos than they could possibly transfer. So they might

00:19:52.960 create a dozen embryos, or sometimes it's only six embryos, but the couple really only wants 0.89

00:19:58.040 two or three children. But you make as many embryos as possible to get the best chance at a

00:20:03.040 healthy embryo as possible. What very often happens, and I'm saying caveats very often

00:20:09.540 because I know some of you out there are going to say, no, that wasn't our process, but the vast

00:20:13.960 majority of cases make as many embryos as you possibly can. Those embryos are then graded.

00:20:18.920 If there is any kind of chromosomal abnormality, so for example, if it's found that one of the

00:20:24.980 embryos has Down syndrome, those embryos are discarded. Sometimes the couple doesn't even

00:20:30.480 know that those embryos are being discarded. Or it is the embryos are tested for their gender.

00:20:40.380 And very often the couple will have the gender makeup that they have in mind. For example,

00:20:47.120 Paris Hilton made lots and lots of embryos and she just kept on making these boy embryos but she

00:20:53.140 really wanted a girl and so of course she's going to bypass the eight other boy embryos that she has

00:20:58.560 in a lab that she has frozen until she gets the girl so what happens to all of those embryos who

00:21:04.580 are unwanted because they're the wrong gender because they are they have down syndrome or they

00:21:10.640 have some kind of like trisomy 18 or 21 what happens to them well typically they are thrown

00:21:15.900 away. And morally for us, this is no different than abortion because we've been saying in the

00:21:21.680 pro-life movement for a very long time that Dr. Seuss line, a person is a person no matter how

00:21:26.200 small. Of course, we believe that. We have been saying that life starts at conception, that human

00:21:31.820 life scientifically, this is not a spiritual argument, starts at the moment of fertilization

00:21:37.260 that is a unique human life. And all human life is made in God's image. All human life is therefore

00:21:43.520 infinitely valuable. And therefore, what we do to him or her from that moment of conception

00:21:49.820 really matters. How we treat those who don't look to us like people, who don't sound to us like 0.81

00:21:56.540 people, who can contribute nothing, even at the earliest moment of their humanity, it matters to 0.97

00:22:02.800 the God who says that we are made in his image. Now, that is a spiritual argument, but I'm speaking

00:22:07.840 to Christians, and it's okay for us to say that. Far more embryos are discarded every year than

00:22:14.540 result in a life birth. In fact, only 7% of IVF cases actually lead to a live birth. There's this

00:22:22.580 article that I found, and this is just a few years old from NBC, talking about a fertility clinic

00:22:29.340 in Fort Myers, Florida. Hundreds of embryos sit in a frozen state of limbo. This is at one clinic,

00:22:37.040 abandoned in the center storage tanks by in vitro fertilization patients who once sought the help

00:22:43.280 of Sweets, that's the doctor's team, and their journey to become parents, then walked away.

00:22:49.220 Sweets is one of thousands of fertility doctors throughout the country grappling with what to do

00:22:53.620 with the embryos cast aside by former patients, many of whom worked for months, even years to

00:22:58.220 conceive. It's an unanticipated dilemma. 21%, this doctor says, 21% of our embryos

00:23:05.960 have been abandoned. So we're talking about at just one clinic, almost one fourth, almost a quarter

00:23:12.900 of the embryos have been abandoned. There are, it's estimated over a million. I bet it's closer

00:23:19.060 to 2 million, but it's estimated that over a million embryos are on ice in America. There

00:23:25.060 are all kinds of reasons for that. The parents end up getting the children that they want. They

00:23:30.240 have two or three children, they can't bear to throw their other embryos away. And so those

00:23:36.060 embryos just wait, just frozen on ice. Or sometimes there's divorce, there's relationship

00:23:41.680 problems. Sometimes the parents die. There are all kinds of unforeseen consequences to creating

00:23:49.040 children outside of the sexual act, creating them in a lab, putting them on ice. And I know a lot

00:23:55.880 of you out there, I've talked to you. You didn't intend that when you went through IVF, but now

00:24:01.340 you've got six to seven embryos on ice and you're not sure what to do. And there is something called

00:24:07.300 snowflake adoption where you could allow a Christian family to adopt these embryos. But at

00:24:13.360 the very least, this situation puts you in a moral conundrum, in a moral quandary. It is very

00:24:21.800 difficult, I think, to navigate this. And so for Christians, IVF should never be encouraged because

00:24:27.180 right away we are asking the children to sacrifice and to risk on our behalf. Having children is a

00:24:34.060 good desire, but it is not an ends justify all means desire. It is not a I'm going to do this

00:24:43.020 at whatever cost desire. There are still moral and ethical parameters. And so the first part is

00:24:49.560 how it treats embryos and the risk to the embryos and the risk of death, the risk of eugenics that 0.68

00:24:55.320 goes on, especially if we're going to subsidize it and make it even more accessible to people. 0.70

00:25:00.520 The embryonic death toll is just going to keep rising. I can't support that. I can't be a part

00:25:05.980 of that. Even if sometimes there are happy results for people, it's not worth risking the lives of

00:25:12.580 children. If I'm against abortion, I have to be against IVF. I do. I do. Those two things just

00:25:18.080 cannot go hand in hand. But then also IVF is used to create children for two men and two women. 0.93

00:25:26.880 It's a necessary step unless they are adopting, but to create a genetic child for two men or two

00:25:33.620 women, you have to use either a sperm or an egg cellar. In the men's case, you have to use a 0.92

00:25:39.440 surrogate and they have to go through the embryonic grading process, the discarding of embryos, 0.89

00:25:45.400 the transferring of embryos, and the very risky to the baby and the woman surrogacy process,

00:25:51.340 at least among two men, in order to have a child. And so I am assuming that these subsidies and this

00:26:00.140 program is also going to assist in helping surrogacy and helping IVF and the procurement 0.98

00:26:07.400 of children to be forced into a motherless or fatherless situation by LGBTQ couples. 1.00

00:26:14.640 And I just cannot be a part of that. 1.00

00:26:17.720 I just cannot support that.

00:26:19.600 I actually think that it's very evil that we are using our tax dollars to support motherless and fatherless children, forced motherless and fatherless children, and to pay for additional excess deaths of embryos via IVF.

00:26:37.320 And so I'm very happy on the one hand about what Trump is supporting when it comes to pregnancy centers.

00:26:43.600 But I am very disappointed on the other hand when it comes to the support of IVF and Katie Britt, who is standing behind him, their Republican senator from Alabama.

00:26:54.060 Like, I think that she should know better.

00:26:57.160 I don't really expect Trump to understand the moral intricacies of this issue, but I do expect a smart woman to know better.

00:27:04.620 And it's not a lack of compassion for people who can't have children.

00:27:08.440 It is a compassion for these small children who don't have a voice and who don't have any capital.

00:27:15.940 They don't have people sticking up for them because people don't think you're a person unless you look like a fully developed baby.

00:27:21.740 That's the battle we've been fighting when it comes to abortion.

00:27:24.120 It's the battle we've got to fight when it comes to IVF too.

00:27:27.260 And I know that hurts feelings and I don't want to hurt feelings.

00:27:30.520 I'm not trying to be vitriolic or divisive or whatever, but all of those names that someone

00:27:36.060 could call me, it's worth it for the sake of the babies on ice. It just is. All right, let me pause

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00:28:43.480 Just another thing about IVF is that it doesn't actually help the fertility crisis. Katie Faust,

00:28:50.200 she founded Them Before Us, which is a child's rights organization. She said the places that

00:28:57.760 have subsidized IVF don't actually see an increase in birth rates. It simply means women further 0.98

00:29:04.080 postpone childbearing rather than prioritizing it. This is not a solution to the fertility crisis, 0.54

00:29:09.260 but it does result in massive loss of human life. She's absolutely right about that. If you look at 0.97

00:29:16.560 Singapore, they've had a 40-year push of subsidized IVF. They subsidize up to 75% of reproductive

00:29:24.000 technology costs. However, Singapore's fertility rate dropped to 0.87 children per woman in 2025.

00:29:31.200 If you look at that chart, it's actually gone down since they started subsidizing IVF. Because

00:29:37.740 a lot of people, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of people are going through IVF because they

00:29:42.860 have waited, sometimes by choice, when they're in their 40s to have children. And that is past the

00:29:49.540 window of your prime that is past the window of when it is most likely to be able to have children

00:29:55.800 and that makes it difficult that again is not solving the fertility crisis there are root cause

00:30:01.260 problems to the fertility crisis that we have been talking about for a long time on the show you can

00:30:05.680 go back and listen to some of those episodes again ivf doesn't treat that it doesn't solve that

00:30:10.240 we've got moral spiritual issues going on a lot of it is because men and women just aren't getting

00:30:16.220 married. The vast majority of people are not getting married even by the time they're 30.

00:30:22.840 So again, that fertility window just gets smaller and smaller. And the reason that they're not

00:30:28.520 getting married, I think for a lot of people, maybe they don't find the right person. But I

00:30:33.100 also think it's just a lack of desire for commitment. Of course, as Christianity fades, 0.65

00:30:37.580 which has been the driver of monogamy and fruitfulness in having children, primarily for 0.93

00:30:43.000 a very long time. As that influence wanes, people's desire to sacrifice of themselves and

00:30:48.980 get married and have children is going to wane. I know for a lot of you, you are not child-free

00:30:53.420 by choice. You would love to have children. You are not marriage-free by choice. You would love

00:30:57.440 to get married. But I don't think that is true for a lot of the people who are not getting married

00:31:02.780 and not having kids. And then when you turn 38, you finally decide you want to do these things,

00:31:07.800 then it gets a lot harder. That is contributing to our fertility crisis. I think it has a lot

00:31:12.680 to do with a matter of priorities and choices and morals than it has to do with some of these other

00:31:18.180 factors. And it's certainly not going to be solved by IVF. Of course, we know what the Bible says

00:31:23.220 about the value of life inside the womb. The same verses that we use to speak out against abortion 0.89

00:31:28.660 as believers, as Christians, they're the same verses that we use to be against IVF. Jeremiah

00:31:35.400 1.5, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I consecrated you.

00:31:39.420 I appointed you a prophet to the nations.

00:31:41.680 He is talking to the prophet Jeremiah there, but it shows us a principle that God knows

00:31:46.360 us when we are in the womb, that our lives matter then.

00:31:50.720 Psalm 139, 13 through 14, for you formed my inward parts.

00:31:54.080 You knitted me together in my mother's womb.

00:31:56.400 I praise you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.

00:31:59.500 Wonderful are your works.

00:32:00.480 My soul knows it very well.

00:32:01.540 And actually, we didn't include the most important verse in that passage that your eyes saw my

00:32:07.120 unformed substance, my unformed substance. So before I looked like a person, when I was just

00:32:15.100 what the left called a clump of cells, you saw me, you formed me, you were knitting me. And then of

00:32:21.360 course, Exodus 2013, you shall not murder. And I do believe that discarding embryos is murder.

00:32:27.660 And I do believe that allowing your children, who are your children, those embryos to be

00:32:33.880 indefinitely frozen on ice is not a way to treat a child. I think we have to have a much more

00:32:41.640 biblical, but just a much more moral and human look on IVF and not only prioritize adult desires,

00:32:49.440 but also what are children's rights. All right, we've got another bad that we have to talk about 0.79

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00:33:56.720 So, unfortunately, the state of abortion in America is not good.

00:34:02.560 Abortion has only increased since the Dobbs decision, the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

00:34:07.720 The vast majority of the abortions that are occurring are happening in those first few weeks of pregnancy.

00:34:14.740 And that is because of the rise in the prevalence of the abortion pill.

00:34:19.180 Under the Biden administration a few years ago, they removed the rule that said that you had to see a doctor or abortion provider in person before you could take the abortion pill.

00:34:29.600 It's a two-part abortion pill, misopristol and mifepristone.

00:34:34.040 And you would go home after confirming how far along you were and take these pills to abort your child, which, of course, is awful.

00:34:43.340 But at least when you see a doctor, there is a safeguard in place to know actually how far along you are and if it's going to be safe.

00:34:49.540 Well, the Biden administration, after the Dobbs decision allowed states to pass more pro-life laws, wanted to make it as easy as possible for women in Texas and these more pro-life states to be able to skirt those laws and to still be able to murder their babies no matter how far along they were.

00:35:06.740 And so now you go online and you order these abortion pills and you can kill your child, and it's very detrimental as well to the woman.

00:35:15.320 And unfortunately, the Trump administration has not reversed that rule.

00:35:19.220 The Trump administration is over the FDA, and they have decided to actually push back against the states like Louisiana, like Texas, like Florida,

00:35:26.780 who are trying very hard to ensure that that rule that the FDA has in place is reversed

00:35:34.820 so that these women have to see a doctor and have to confirm how far along they are in

00:35:41.400 their pregnancy before they can get the abortion pill. 1.00

00:35:46.080 And of course, we want the abortion pill off the market.

00:35:48.800 We don't want it to be sold at all, but you definitely should not be able to sell it online.

00:35:55.760 And unfortunately, because of this, because of the prevalence of the abortion pill, we have seen, we have this according to the Guttmacher Institute, that's Planned Parenthood's research arm. You can see that over the past couple of years, this chart shows that abortion actually has risen.

00:36:12.220 Now, it was rising before that. It looks like it was rising about 2015, started rising, rising, rising.

00:36:19.380 And then it's just continued to rise. It's actually plateaued over the past year or so.

00:36:25.960 And so lots of reasons for that. But certainly the circulation of the abortion pill and now the mail order abortions made possible first by the Biden administration,

00:36:35.060 but continued to be allowed by the Trump administration for reasons we do not fully

00:36:41.100 understand, that is probably the reason for that increase there. Today, we are talking to Dr.

00:36:49.780 Christina Francis, and she is an OBGYN of, I think, almost 20 years now. She is awesome. I've known

00:36:57.800 her for a while. She is the head of APLOG, and that is the American Association of Pro-Life

00:37:02.940 obstetricians and gynecologists. She's going to tell us about, unfortunately, where the Trump

00:37:08.520 administration has failed when it comes to this, but also what she did to go undercover to show us 0.93

00:37:16.600 just how easy it is to legally get abortion pills sent to your house without parental consent, 0.99

00:37:23.060 even if you are as young as 13. So she's going to fill us in on exactly what all of this means,

00:37:30.000 why this matters, and what we can do as pro-lifers to push this administration in the right

00:37:35.380 direction. That is one silver lining. I do think this administration can be pushed in the right

00:37:40.100 direction, unlike the Kamala Harris administration. So we've got to do what we can to raise a

00:37:45.180 respectful ruckus for the things that matter. All right, without further ado, here is Dr. Francis.

00:37:54.820 Dr. Francis, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. Okay, tell us about this ruling by

00:37:59.760 the Fifth Circuit of Appeals that has to do with mifepristone. Yes. Well, Allie, thank you for

00:38:05.340 having me back on again. It's so great to be with you. Yeah. On May 1st, we were really excited to

00:38:11.100 hear the ruling from the Fifth Circuit that while this case out of Louisiana over mifepristone is

00:38:18.560 working its way through the court, that the in-person dispensing requirement for mifepristone,

00:38:24.040 the abortion drug should be put back into place immediately because of the harm of it not being

00:38:30.120 there because of the harm that that's causing to states like Louisiana and also to women like 0.99

00:38:35.880 Rosalie Marquezich, who's one of the co-plaintiffs in this case, who was coerced into a chemical

00:38:41.600 abortion by her boyfriend who was able to order these drugs online, get a mail to him and then

00:38:48.020 sat in the car with her and really, it sounds like verbally threatened her. She was afraid of

00:38:55.520 physical harm if she didn't take these drugs and so was forced into an abortion that ended the life 0.79

00:39:00.600 of her child. And so thankfully the Fifth Circuit recognized that this is a real active danger to

00:39:09.100 state pro-life laws, but also to individual women who are being harmed and of course pre-born

00:39:14.120 children who are being harmed by these drugs. And so the Fifth Circuit said, while this case is

00:39:19.020 making its way through the court, we need that in-person dispensing requirement back immediately.

00:39:24.020 Right, right. But then what happened at the Supreme Court?

00:39:28.120 Yes. Well, so keeping in mind, I am not an attorney, but I have lots of friends who are,

00:39:32.300 and they have given me the wording to recap this. So what happened was then that Fifth Circuit

00:39:38.580 decision was immediately appealed to the Supreme Court by the abortion drug manufacturer.

00:39:44.120 So Danco and Jen Biopro, whose sole financial product, I know for Danco, but I believe for Jen Biopro as well, is the abortion drug Bifepristone.

00:39:53.960 So they immediately appealed to the Supreme Court.

00:39:56.820 And then earlier this week, Justice Alito, because he makes decisions on any appeals that come through the Fifth Circuit,

00:40:04.900 Justice Alito just said, we're going to put a pause for a few days on what the Fifth Circuit said.

00:40:11.080 and we want to hear from all of the parties involved.

00:40:14.340 We want to get briefs from all of the parties involved.

00:40:17.260 And then it seems like because the Supreme Court's stay

00:40:20.420 on the Fifth Circuit's decision

00:40:21.700 is set to go through this coming Monday, May 11th,

00:40:26.160 it seems that they just want to hear all the information

00:40:30.100 and then the Supreme Court will actually rule

00:40:32.240 as to whether the Fifth Circuit decision can stand.

00:40:35.880 And tell me why it is so important

00:40:37.740 to require this in-person visit.

00:40:40.900 Obviously, we don't want any babies to be killed with the abortion pill at all, but this in-person visit requirement is a really important, not only deterrent possibly, but also just to preserve the safety of the women who are seeking to use this abortion pill, right?

00:41:01.440 Yes, absolutely.

00:41:02.600 So we know at its baseline, this abortion drug, mifepristone, is inherently dangerous.

00:41:07.620 It's four times more dangerous than surgical abortions.

00:41:10.900 But that's when it's being dispensed in person, when a woman has an in-person evaluation by a medical professional who ensures they know how far along she is in her pregnancy, ensures that she does not have an ectopic pregnancy, which is life-threatening to her, and ensures that she is actually the one who wants the abortion, that it's not someone forcing her into that.

00:41:31.280 You know, if we take sort of a 30,000 foot view, one of the reasons that this in-person dispensing requirement is important is because without it, abortion is essentially legal in all 50 states right now.

00:41:43.460 This is a federal mandate that is overriding all state pro-life laws right now.

00:41:48.340 In fact, the state of Louisiana, the main plaintiff in this case, has documented that they, even though abortion is illegal, a thousand abortions a month are happening in just the state of Louisiana because of these drugs.

00:42:00.320 So on a macro level, in order to respect state pro-life laws, this in-person dispensing requirement needs to be put back into place.

00:42:08.520 But on an individual level, as you said, women getting these drugs through the mail is extremely dangerous.

00:42:15.440 Without that evaluation, we know that for every week beyond really about eight weeks of pregnancy that a woman takes these drugs,

00:42:22.420 her risks increase exponentially of hemorrhage or massive bleeding, infection, the need for

00:42:29.060 emergency surgery, and even just a few weeks can make a huge difference. So at 10 weeks of pregnancy, 0.60

00:42:35.260 her risk of needing a surgical completion of her abortion is about one in 10. If she takes them 0.98

00:42:41.480 just three weeks later at 13 weeks of pregnancy, that jumps to one in three. So that's a really

00:42:47.260 significant difference in her risk. And we know even the American College of OBGYNs, who's very

00:42:52.820 pro-abortion, and by the way, filed an amicus brief in this case, going, siding with the abortion

00:42:58.880 industry. But even they say that up to 50% of women will be wrong about how far along they are

00:43:05.400 in their pregnancy, just based on, you know, going off of their last period without an ultrasound,

00:43:10.500 without an in-person exam. And of course, Rosalie's story and many others like hers

00:43:15.940 highlight the fact that abusers are getting these drugs online, men are getting these drugs who

00:43:23.200 obviously are not pregnant, and they're forcing them on their wives, on their girlfriends. 0.53

00:43:28.240 And so I think even somebody who may say that they support a woman's quote unquote right to 0.94

00:43:33.760 an abortion should certainly be opposed to abortion being forced on a woman that doesn't

00:43:38.860 want them or doesn't want an abortion. And then finally, as you said, we know that the

00:43:44.860 reinstatement of this in-person dispensing requirement would also lead to saving more

00:43:49.480 lives of pre-born children. We would see the abortion numbers go down, which we have seen go up

00:43:54.980 significantly since the Dobbs decision, in particular because of the lack of an in-person

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00:45:14.820 If you think about in non-abortion terms, everyone knows that it's easier to spend money when you buy

00:45:22.460 something on Amazon versus going in person. Like if you have to go buy something in person and try

00:45:28.420 it on or buy a piece of furniture in person, most people aren't going to do it. They're going to

00:45:33.780 think twice about it. And then they go in person and they think, well, you know what? I don't even

00:45:37.440 know if I, if I want to go through with this. I don't know if I have the money for it. I don't

00:45:40.740 know if I have the space for it. There are all kinds of things that you think about when you're

00:45:43.840 in person that you don't think about when you're just clicking a couple of times online. Well,

00:45:48.740 I think you multiply that when it comes to abortion, especially if you have a woman who

00:45:52.360 is pressured, especially if you have someone in a crisis situation, really easy to make that click,

00:45:57.420 to take those pills, not even know how far along you are. And of course, as you said,

00:46:01.400 I think it just exacerbates trafficking, abuse, all kinds of things.

00:46:06.260 Now, I'm seeing that the CEO of Reproductive Freedom for All, obviously euphemism for abortion,

00:46:12.960 she is saying that some abortion providers are saying that they might use, is it misoprostol?

00:46:20.240 Is that how you pronounce it?

00:46:21.960 Misoprostol.

00:46:23.260 Misoprostol.

00:46:24.060 That they might be using that by itself without using mifepristone if mifepristone is not

00:46:30.040 available.

00:46:30.380 that also is very dangerous for women, right? It is. It is. And this is not something new.

00:46:36.240 It's something that the abortion industry has done internationally for many, many years is

00:46:42.100 mesoprostol-only abortions. One of the reasons why mifepristone was developed was because

00:46:47.800 of the incomplete abortion rate or where all of the baby and all of the pregnancy tissues don't

00:46:54.980 pass out of the woman's uterus, that rate for mesoprostol alone abortions is significantly 0.92

00:47:00.820 higher than when you add mifepristone. So it is more dangerous to women. It will lead to more

00:47:06.320 complications. And I think the fact that the abortion industry is already pivoting to that

00:47:11.680 shows that all they care about are more abortions. They couldn't care less about women's health and

00:47:17.680 women's safety. They obviously don't care about the health and safety of pre-born children. 0.97

00:47:21.980 And I think this, they really have shown their hand in this, in that they care about their profits, they don't care about patients, which is exactly the opposite of what healthcare is meant to be and to do.

00:47:33.920 And Allie, if I can just return real quickly to something that you mentioned right before that, in that, you know, we think a little less when we go on Amazon, for instance, to buy something online.

00:47:44.080 I want to highlight the fact, because I think that there's a lot of people, even on the pro-life side, that don't fully understand this, that when women or whomever is going online to buy these pills to be shipped through the mail to them, it truly is like an Amazon experience.

00:47:59.160 So oftentimes they're called telehealth or telemedicine abortions, but telehealth or telemedicine means a patient is talking to a medical professional through like a Zoom call.

00:48:09.860 That is not what's happening on these websites. And in fact, Applog put out an expose video recently where I got online onto one of these sites and I put in every medical reason why someone should not be given these pills, things that make them very much life threatening.

00:48:27.180 In the end, I was a 13-year-old with three previous C-sections and IUD in place on blood thinners in the state of Indiana where abortion is illegal.

00:48:37.020 And after I submitted my request, which they said would be reviewed by a health care professional, before I received the payment link, within a minute and a half, I got the payment link.

00:48:45.820 So obviously, no medical professional is reviewing this.

00:48:49.240 And in two days, they were in my mailbox in the state of Indiana.

00:48:53.320 And it should be noted that the pills came from or the pills were were pills that were made by Jen Biopro, who is one of the abortion drug companies involved in this lawsuit.

00:49:03.460 And they came from a random address in Los Angeles, California.

00:49:06.800 So I legitimately as a 13 year old could have died had I taken those pills and actually been pregnant.

00:49:13.820 So I think it's really, really important.

00:49:16.160 One of my big things that I'm trying to convince people of is don't call these telehealth or telemedicine abortions.

00:49:21.800 They are not. There is no health care whatsoever involved. There's no medical oversight. These truly are mail order abortions like a shopping online shopping experience. That is all that's happening. Women are not getting informed consent and they're having no medical oversight whatsoever.

00:49:38.440 Would it be accurate to say that abortion is more accessible than ever because of this? 0.99

00:49:43.760 Oh, 100%.

00:49:45.080 And this was the abortion industry's plan all along.

00:49:48.920 They saw the overturn of Roe coming.

00:49:51.040 They started laying the groundwork for this all the way back in 2000 when this drug was originally approved in the U.S.

00:49:57.680 Their goal was to always make it accessible like this and ultimately to make it over the counter, which is their next move.

00:50:04.360 Now, I would argue it's essentially over the counter right now the way it's available online.

00:50:08.800 But there are already studies coming out in major medical journals from abortionists about why it would be safe for this to be dispensed over the counter.

00:50:16.880 That is ultimately their goal, that every person who wants to get their hands on abortion drugs will be able to do so with no medical evaluation, no follow-up, and just abandoning women to their local emergency rooms and obviously ending the lives of hundreds of thousands of pre-born children in this country every year.

00:50:36.060 And by the way, no parental knowledge. I mean, forget about consent. You were a 13 year old in your undercover operation and the parents didn't have to sign off or say anything. And so like your little girl, I mean, your teenage daughter could walk into their plan is to walk into a CVS, potentially die, not to mention her child die gruesomely because of this.

00:51:01.900 Now, we know that this comes from a Biden-era FDA rule that said you don't have to have this in-person requirement, but the Trump administration, FDA, has not done what we need them to do, correct, in reversing this rule.

00:51:16.100 No, they haven't.

00:51:16.920 In fact, it's been a huge disappointment that not only because this is an administration

00:51:22.980 who claims to be the most pro-life administration in history, but also because it just is good

00:51:29.100 medicine and good science to reverse the Biden era decision to remove that in-person

00:51:35.040 dispensing requirement.

00:51:36.120 And in fact, the Trump DOJ and FDA are actively fighting the state of Louisiana in this lawsuit

00:51:44.080 and asking for it to be dismissed while they do their supposed safety review that they've

00:51:50.080 supposedly been doing since last year. It should have been done by now. And many groups like APLOG,

00:51:56.620 the group that I represent, have been demanding to see results and see results soon of the safety

00:52:02.160 review and for full transparency of what data they used in their safety review. They have claimed

00:52:08.840 that the in-person dispensing requirement should not be put back into place while the safety review

00:52:13.820 is being done, there is no medical or scientific reason why they couldn't simultaneously put back

00:52:19.860 into place the pre-2023 in-person dispensing requirement and continue to do their safety

00:52:26.060 review. And I think most disappointingly for me recently, there was an article in the Wall Street

00:52:31.880 Journal that had a quote from FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, who said essentially that he doesn't

00:52:38.160 even really think about abortion pills. That was a punch in the gut for me. Because, you know,

00:52:45.400 again, even if it's not somebody who claims to be pro-life, the FDA's job is to ensure that any

00:52:51.640 drug that is approved in the United States is safe for people to take and is being dispensed

00:52:56.120 in a safe way. And that is not what's happening with mifepristone. I've had Dr. McCary on this

00:53:02.420 show appreciate, you know, some of the things that he did in COVID. But as you said, this is not only

00:53:07.180 a moral issue, obviously, but this is a health issue. And this is something that HHS, the FDA

00:53:13.160 is supposed to really care about. Also has environmental impacts to RFK Jr. So there's

00:53:18.520 a lot going on here. Thank you so much. I am so thankful for you, Dr. Francis, and for APLOG,

00:53:23.200 all the advocacy that you guys do. You might not be an attorney, but you did an excellent job at

00:53:27.980 explaining what's going on in the court. So thank you so much, Dr. Francis. Encourage everyone to

00:53:32.300 Check out APLOG, that's A-A-P-L-O-G. 1.00

00:53:35.600 See what they're up to, see how you can support them. 1.00

00:53:37.920 Thank you so much.

00:53:39.160 Absolutely.

00:53:39.700 Thank you, Allie Beth.

00:53:45.520 All right, we only have a few minutes left,

00:53:47.320 but I wanted to save some time

00:53:48.900 for some lifestyle pitter patter,

00:53:50.700 mostly just because I like seeing the image 0.67

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00:53:55.440 So we're gonna talk about the Odyssey in just a second.

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00:55:28.660 I wonder what we're making. We're probably making like, I don't know, sourdough bread or something

00:55:33.460 like that. Okay. Lifestyle pitter patter for you. We're going to talk about The Odyssey. Now people

00:55:38.480 are really excited or they were really excited about The Odyssey, the movie that's supposed to

00:55:42.500 come out in July directed by Christopher Nolan. This is the person who is very famous for directing

00:55:47.400 things like Interstellar, Oppenheimer. So he's got a good repertoire of work, but people are

00:55:53.380 very disappointed by this because it doesn't seem at all like he is trying to match the characters

00:56:00.000 of the Odyssey and how they were described in the book to the actors and actresses that he chose for

00:56:07.060 this movie. So for example, we've got Helen of Troy. Helen of Troy is reportedly being played

00:56:11.880 by Lupita Nyong'o. Okay, very, very beautiful woman. Nothing against her. She's probably a

00:56:18.160 wonderful actress. The problem here is that this seems to be blackwashing a character who clearly

00:56:25.380 was supposed to be white and blonde. She is described by Homer as white-armed, emphasizing 0.96

00:56:31.440 pale, smooth arms, fair-haired, so blonde. And the person who played her in Troy, this was in the

00:56:40.720 early 2000s, looked like that. You know, she had blonde hair, blue eyes, was fair-skinned, and so

00:56:46.020 it seemed like they were trying to match how Homer actually described Helen, the face that

00:56:50.940 launched a thousand ships. And then we've got Achilles. Achilles is being played by Juno.

00:57:00.280 Okay. Being played. You can't even tell who that is right there. But that is Ellen Page,

00:57:06.580 who now goes by Elliot Page, who is a very sad story of someone who thinks that she is a man.

00:57:11.980 And then we think from the trailer that she is playing Achilles.

00:57:19.020 Now, Homer describes Achilles as the ideal heroic warrior, youthful, powerful, imposing.

00:57:26.020 Now, you'll remember that Brad Pitt, maybe you'll remember this, played Achilles in the

00:57:30.660 2004 iteration of Troy.

00:57:34.020 That is probably what we picture when we are reading the description of him in the Iliad,

00:57:40.600 for example, like he has light golden fair hair. So probably like Brad Pitt, I just am not

00:57:47.640 picturing five to Ellen Page as playing Achilles, but we'll see. Um, also, uh, we'll see if that's

00:57:55.920 actually true, if it's actually Achilles, but I can't imagine it being, um, a good casting if

00:58:01.840 she is playing a man at all. Rapper Travis Scott, okay. Is playing a bard and I don't know if he

00:58:09.500 has any acting experience maybe he has a ton of acting chops and he's like gonna be awesome at

00:58:13.600 this i don't know this is like a hamiltonification of history now we're just doing this i actually

00:58:19.980 really enjoyed hamilton like musically i thought it was really good and creative and fun i still

00:58:25.140 listen to it but now we're just doing this to every piece of literature and history so christopher

00:58:31.860 nolan defended this decision of casting travis scott stating i cast him because i wanted to nod

00:58:36.540 towards the idea that this story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap.

00:58:42.740 Okay, that's a choice. That is certainly a choice. And then apparently there's modern language

00:58:48.560 used in this book. SOT7. You're pining for a daddy you didn't even know. Like some sniffling

00:58:57.200 pastor. My dad is coming home. Weird. Just a little weird. I mean,

00:59:03.300 I guess they always use modern language because you're, they're probably not doing just exactly

00:59:10.020 the lines, uh, from the original books, but they're trying to Gen Z-ify it with the like

00:59:15.680 daddy language. Okay. And then people are also pointing out Anne Hathaway, who is an incredible

00:59:20.540 actress, by the way. I, I know there's a lot of Anne Hathaway hate out there. She's an incredible 0.66

00:59:26.280 actress. She was so good in Les Mis, y'all. But anyway, they're talking about how she obviously

00:59:31.760 has Botox and so she can't express her face in the same way. This has been a topic of conversation a

00:59:39.060 lot on movie X and how the Botox and the fillers and everything is actually changing acting and

00:59:45.940 is changing the sincerity, the genuineness of these portrayals that are supposed to be historic

00:59:53.500 when obviously these things didn't exist. You know where I first noticed this in, was it,

01:00:00.340 is it 1884? Is that the, is that the followup to Yellowstone? The one with the girl and the

01:00:07.280 Tim McGraw and the Faith Hill? I think it's 1884. Anyway, I enjoyed it. I thought that Tim McGraw

01:00:13.760 and Faith Hill did great, but Faith Hill, as beautiful as she is, she looks like a very

01:00:17.720 modern woman. I'll say that. She is a product of our times. And I had a very hard time placing her 0.84

01:00:25.100 like on the trail in the 19th century because of how she looks and that's just unfortunate

01:00:31.200 also you just can't show your emotions if you can't move your eyebrows and I think that's very

01:00:36.480 important for acting it's okay to age in Hathaway it really is I don't know maybe there are some

01:00:42.600 weird people who don't think it is but I think it's okay to age and I love acting like I love

01:00:47.880 acting and I love watching great acting and it actually makes me really really sad that all of

01:00:53.920 these incredible performers that their face is frozen permanently and that they can't do their

01:00:58.980 jobs well and therefore we're not served well and so here you go the patriarchy is winning again

01:01:04.520 because only the men are going to be able to express their emotions well and they're going

01:01:08.420 to be better actors than you are you going to let them win Anne Hathaway don't get Botox next time

01:01:14.460 skip your next appointment let us see the disappointment in your eyebrows all right

01:01:20.140 that's all I got time for today I will be back here on Friday

01:01:22.880 We'll be right back.

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