Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 1354 ｜ 'Pride Month' Is Here — but Christians Are Gaining Ground

00:00:00.560 Happy Noahic Covenant Month, as some people like to call it Pride Month. 0.99

00:00:04.760 We've got an update on the sexual revolution. 0.96

00:00:07.600 Unfortunately, wokeness has not gone away, but the tide is turning. 0.57

00:00:14.380 So-called Pride Month this year looks different than it has in years past. 1.00

00:00:18.600 We're going to talk about where we are in this LGBTQ culture war and what Christians 0.98

00:00:23.820 are doing about it. 0.97

00:00:24.880 Also, we've got voicemails with some very good questions.

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00:00:49.280 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful and peaceful weekend.

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00:01:43.220 I've got some news to start off this Monday episode. Maybe some of you have already heard

00:01:47.880 this. Maybe you haven't, but God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch.

00:01:52.160 Now, today marks the beginning of what some may refer to as Pride Month, and this is a

00:01:58.080 month where those who call themselves LGBTQ celebrate their sexuality, and that sexuality

00:02:03.940 is conflated with identity. 0.59

00:02:06.320 And so today, we will look at where the movement is for America, for worse in some ways, but

00:02:11.000 also for better in other ways, so that we Christians can know how to pray, how to minister,

00:02:16.740 how to speak, how to shine light in the darkness.

00:02:19.580 Now for Christians, we celebrate today like we do every day.

00:02:22.780 This is the day that the Lord has made.

00:02:25.020 Let us rejoice and be glad in it.

00:02:27.040 And when we think of pride, we don't think of pride month.

00:02:31.940 We don't think pride and sexual so-called identity.

00:02:35.420 We think of the vice that comes before failure.

00:02:38.160 When we look to the rainbow, we think of God's promise to Noah and to the whole world

00:02:42.280 that never will he flood the earth again and that he's faithful to keep his promises.

00:02:46.500 When we think of love, we don't follow it up with some kind of circular, meaningless mantra

00:02:52.280 is love.

00:02:53.620 We think of that, which is never prideful and never boast, never rejoice in wrong and

00:02:58.460 is always patient.

00:02:59.440 It's always kind.

00:03:00.440 We think of God who tells us that he is love first John four, eight, and therefore he alone

00:03:05.640 has the authority to define it.

00:03:08.000 And when we see this acronym LGBTQ, we don't see sexual identities to celebrate.

00:03:14.560 We see image bearers of God. 0.94

00:03:16.500 who are pursuing what is right in their own eyes to the detriment of their bodies and souls.

00:03:20.480 We see people who are lost as we were all once lost, deceived as we were all once deceived,

00:03:26.460 and who need the kind of love that points toward Jesus and his truth. We think of Jesus's words

00:03:32.060 in Matthew 19, four through five, which say that God made us male and female in the beginning

00:03:36.540 so that a man will leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife

00:03:40.880 and the two will become one flesh. We remember that we're not nicer than God. So if God says

00:03:46.200 something is good, he says it out of love. If he says something is sin, he says so out of love. If

00:03:51.920 he is love, we can't out love him. We can't out mercy him. We can't out wisdom him. We can't out

00:03:56.480 compassion him. In fact, the most loving thing we can always do is agree with God. And God calls

00:04:04.260 homosexuality and the denial of our God-given sex, sin, and deception. And he calls the creation 0.95

00:04:10.880 of male and female in his image, very good. And he exclusively designates his holy marriage between

00:04:16.760 one man and one woman. Now, if you've been listening since maybe all the way back in 2000,

00:04:23.000 I believe it was 18 or 19 that we first talked about this acronym. This will be familiar, but

00:04:27.740 it bears repeating. Marriage between one man and one woman is rooted in creation. That's Genesis 0.93

00:04:34.180 127. It's reiterated throughout scripture, honor your father and mother. That's one example

00:04:39.540 repeated by Jesus, Matthew 19, four through five, representative of Christ and the church.

00:04:45.840 That's incredible. Ephesians five, and is therefore reflective of the gospel. So rooted,

00:04:51.800 reiterated, repeated, representative, and reflective. So when people say that the Bible

00:04:58.040 doesn't really mean homosexuality, it's not really talking about that. Jesus doesn't really

00:05:03.080 talk about that. There are all kinds of ways that we can try to finagle ourselves into justifying

00:05:08.900 sin by making an argument from absence. First, it's not true. The Bible does talk about these

00:05:15.140 things in the negative sense, but we also read the Bible asking, but what does God define

00:05:20.420 positively? Not just what does God call sin, but what does he call good? And if we love God,

00:05:26.060 we're not just trying to get away with things. We want to glorify him. Then we are trying to

00:05:30.620 align ourselves and our lives as closely to what he calls holy as we possibly can.

00:05:35.660 The Bible starts with a marriage between Adam and Eve ends with a marriage between the bridegroom

00:05:40.060 and the bride. These are gender specific designations that have eternal significance

00:05:44.760 that's reflected here on earth only between a man and a woman. That's why it's so incredibly 0.95

00:05:49.680 sacred. And that is why we don't celebrate pride month because we cannot, we can't by definition,

00:05:55.900 love others by affirming sin. And we push back against the darkness of the movement, not because

00:06:00.640 of hate, but because we love God and because it's bad for people. It's bad for children.

00:06:06.160 We love people. We love the family. We love children. And we want what God calls good.

00:06:12.000 We want what he calls good, right, and true, not only for ourselves, but for our neighbors.

00:06:18.820 Now, remember this because saying all of this, living all of this will bring with it its

00:06:25.860 fair share of criticism. I know that very, very well. As anyone in the public space who has been

00:06:31.320 talking about this knows. And I just remember this, Luke 6, 26, Jesus says, woe to you when

00:06:37.880 all people speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets. Okay. So it's not just,

00:06:44.160 hey, it's an option if you're a Christian that everyone's going to like you, or maybe like some

00:06:48.720 people aren't going to like you. And that's just, you know, that's just life. No, Jesus actually

00:06:52.920 says, no, it's bad. Woe to you when everyone has something nice to say about you. For so they did

00:07:00.600 to the false prophets. People love when you lie to them. People love when you say things just to 0.59

00:07:06.780 make them feel good. People love affirmation of sin. We've probably all been there at one time

00:07:12.740 or another. We don't want to be around the friends, the pastors, the mentors who will tell us what's

00:07:17.100 true because we want to do what we want to do. And we don't like conviction. And so we might

00:07:21.980 speak badly of them or think badly of them. Well, Jesus says, woe to you when all people speak well

00:07:27.800 of you. And that's why I just remind myself and remind you to not to grade yourself or grade your

00:07:36.300 obedience or grade the word of God by people's reaction to you. Now we should do everything we

00:07:41.800 can to strive to be gentle and peaceable and kind and loving. But listen, if you speak what is

00:07:48.400 true. There will always be people who accuse you of being hateful and being bigoted and being

00:07:54.320 holier than thou and being self-righteous. It really doesn't matter how sweetly you say it.

00:07:59.060 It's not about how you say it for a lot of people. It's really about what you are saying.

00:08:06.140 And if they crucified Jesus, who was full of grace and truth, and they stoned Stephen, who was full

00:08:12.800 of grace and power, then why do you believe that you have the winsomeness and you have the

00:08:20.380 niceness and charisma to somehow escape the hatred of the world? It's just not going to happen. All

00:08:28.360 who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, will be persecuted. God loves

00:08:36.000 us. He loves his image bearers. So he created marriage. He created holy sexuality. He created 0.64

00:08:40.640 our bodies. He created gender, and he knows better. That's what it comes down to. God knows 1.00

00:08:46.400 better. So now that we have our base for all of this, let's dive into the culture war because

00:08:51.300 we're not called as Christians just to put our head in the sand. God has placed us in this

00:08:55.640 physical world, in this temporal space for a reason. We know that his eternal plan of redemption

00:09:00.080 is going off without a hitch. He's going to gather his church. The gates of hell will not prevail

00:09:03.760 against his church. And yet we have a purpose here to do the next right thing in faith with

00:09:07.680 excellence and for the glory of God to make this small plot of the earth, this tiny spot of

00:09:12.200 eternity, more like the kingdom of heaven, better, a better place for our neighbors, for the glory of

00:09:19.860 God. Okay. There's lots of ways to do that. Obviously we share the gospel, but we also,

00:09:24.520 for the sake of our neighbors, for the sake of the truth, push back against the darkness. So let's

00:09:28.760 dive into that darkness, but also see what are Christians up to and pushing back against this. 0.90

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00:10:47.360 Okay. So we as a team decided to dig into, is all of this stuff just kind of dead? Is it gone?

00:10:54.460 we felt for a while that woke had been defeated i think a lot of people felt like it was impossible

00:10:59.800 for donald trump to win then he won after the craziness of 2020 it felt like for a while that

00:11:05.860 progressivism absolutely was going to dominate but then we had some really big wins and pushing

00:11:10.860 back against all of it as christian conservatives and it was like okay these companies seem to be

00:11:15.720 backing up well i have some bad news before i get to the good news a lot of these places are not

00:11:21.160 backing down at all. In fact, they're doubling down on this. If we look to the city of Boston,

00:11:27.160 this is where we found some of just the most atrocious and ridiculous things. I mean, 0.97

00:11:30.720 some of these things are just absurd and we had to include them just so you know that like

00:11:35.840 sin induces insanity too. If we look at the Boston public library, it's hosting

00:11:42.320 19 drag queen story time events. I had to double check that 19 drag queen story time events for

00:11:49.120 children during pride month. So we've got a picture right here. This is the advertisement,

00:11:54.400 Boston public library, specifically for kids, drag queen story, our time with Ms. Patty suitable for

00:12:01.000 children, 18 months to five years old. Now, when you think about what a drag queen is, it is a man

00:12:07.120 with prosthetic breasts, with fake nails, with huge hair, with lots of makeup, um, performing

00:12:14.680 and this case for children. Now, what good reason do we have to present a cross-dressing man 0.99

00:12:21.100 that uses a character version of femininity to perform to children? Like what good reason do 0.99

00:12:29.580 we have for that? There is something inherently sexual about drag. Don't let anyone tell you

00:12:35.160 different, that it's just about inclusion. It's just about something different, showing kids that

00:12:39.740 it's okay to be different. No, it's sowing confusion and it is sowing seeds of weird

00:12:46.140 sexuality from a very early age. There's no good reason for it. If we look at Boston mayor,

00:12:53.000 Michelle Wu, she is so far left. So she has an office of LGBTQ advancement. She is holding a 1.00

00:13:00.280 trans period pride event. Now I, again, had to just do a double take there. Yeah. Okay. You see

00:13:07.200 it. You see the advertisement and I'm like trans period. Surely we're talking about like the trans

00:13:11.840 era, like the, the trans like period of time. No, we're talking about menstruation. No, we need to 0.88

00:13:17.660 put back up the picture so everyone can see what this is. This is an event to discuss menstrual

00:13:24.380 equity and the experiences of transgender menstruators. Now that might've just put your

00:13:30.840 brain in a pretzel because we're like, who are we talking about? We're talking about women who I

00:13:37.020 identify as men still have their uterus and their eggs. And so they're having periods, 0.87

00:13:43.640 I suppose. Okay. I don't know why they need to be spoken to about tampons and things like that.

00:13:51.140 Or are we talking about the men that I've seen on social media who claim because of the synthetic

00:13:56.880 hormones that they're taking to try to look more like women, that they have some kind of menstrual

00:14:01.760 cycle, even though you don't have a uterus or eggs or any ability to menstruate. I don't know.

00:14:06.600 I bet you're probably going to get a mixed bag. So it says join mass now in the MA trans political 0.99

00:14:12.660 coalition for a consciousness raising discussion of menstrual equity and the experiences of

00:14:19.040 trans menstruators. So I guess it's men who no, no women who identify as men. And don't worry,

00:14:26.880 you get free period underwear provided to all attendees. It's funny, but it's sad. It's actually

00:14:33.340 really sad like what these women go through to try to change their bodies and not be a woman

00:14:38.140 i think that most women who identify as men they went through some sort of trauma some sort of

00:14:45.720 sexual trauma they're trying to run away from that with their bodies and it's very sad last

00:14:50.560 month mayor wu unveiled a program that provides vouchers for self-care and mental health services

00:14:55.660 to LGBTQ migrants. Specifically, the priority is for low-income trans and isolated LGBTQ plus

00:15:07.600 migrants in Boston. Now, how many transgender people are headed here from Nigeria? I don't

00:15:16.180 know. I assume that the number is going to increase though, once you realize that you can

00:15:22.120 get free stuff. If you start identifying as a low income, isolated queer and trans migrant 1.00

00:15:30.000 asylum seeker and refugee. Okay. This is all funded by the taxpayers in Boston. I just want 0.95

00:15:36.380 to remind you of that. As of this month, the city faces a budget deficit of nearly $50 million,

00:15:43.000 but sorry, the transgender people need their period underwear. The queer asylum seekers need 1.00

00:15:49.380 their yoga classes. Okay. So fork over your money, truck driver. Uh, this June, we also see that 1.00

00:15:58.080 stores are still offering pride. So there was that huge backlash against target. You'll remember that

00:16:03.440 because they went absolutely wild. They were like, they also felt, I think the left also felt

00:16:07.940 we have won forever and ever. Okay. And they decided to sell things like, I don't even want

00:16:14.400 to explain it, but this is what they were selling. And even marketing some of this stuff to children

00:16:18.620 packing underwear. Okay. So if you're a woman who identifies as a man, uh, compression tops,

00:16:24.820 if you're a woman who identifies as a man, um, tucking, uh, like swimsuits, if you're a man who 0.96

00:16:31.940 identifies, well, is it so ridiculous. We're talking about target who sells like chip and 0.89

00:16:36.980 Joanna gain stuff. We're talking about mostly suburban Christian women who are frequenting

00:16:43.880 these stores selling the craziest stuff you can imagine. Well, I went to Target for like the first 1.00

00:16:51.060 time in three years last year, and I went to two Targets in Southern California in June. There were

00:16:56.740 zero pride items, lots of 4th of July items, zero pride items. So these companies, we'll get into

00:17:05.060 Target in a second, have dialed things back, but not completely, not 100%. In fact, if we look at

00:17:11.080 the store, like Michael's, they are offering an entire pride collection of LGBTQ merchandise.

00:17:18.360 Okay. They've got lots of stickers that they're selling at Michael's in case you're doing a

00:17:22.800 project where you need these things. You can see them protect trans kids. That's the one of the

00:17:28.000 most subversive to me when we're talking about children going through chemical castration

00:17:32.620 and being told that they're the opposite sex. I mean, how evil there's another one. It's a raccoon.

00:17:39.220 how do people come up with this? It's a raccoon holding a banner that says, be gay, do crime. 0.99

00:17:44.880 I don't know. I don't understand. Okay. Here's one. Michael's. Okay. Where you're getting your 0.99

00:17:50.060 paint and your stuff for school projects. Here's an AR 15 in front of a pride flag and it says

00:17:57.680 defend equality. So Michael's, I guess is in favor of murder. If you do not align with the idea 0.81

00:18:05.680 that a man can become a woman and can enter a girl's bathrooms. Okay. Michaels, shout out Hobby 0.91

00:18:12.360 Lobby. Shout out Hobby Lobby because Hobby Lobby is, you know, selling Christian items, sells my

00:18:19.620 book. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, both of my books and actually sells things that you would want to buy

00:18:27.280 if you're a crafty person. Michaels, I don't know. I don't know who they're catering to here.

00:18:33.160 also there's an elementary school in new jersey that's hosting pride on the playground

00:18:38.340 an event for children on school grounds and promoting it on the website also very strange

00:18:46.260 very weird celebrate diversity inclusion and community together i think that these pride

00:18:51.740 events that are targeting kids it's just strange back in september you might remember there was a

00:18:57.900 boycott movement against netflix there have been a few over the years when x users started posting

00:19:02.780 clips from multiple children's shows on netflix that were platforming gay and trans characters

00:19:07.960 without telling you that by the way they're g-rated and you don't know but they're calling

00:19:12.860 people they them calling women he him things like that um here's an example this is from a

00:19:20.060 supposedly a children's show called dead end paranormal parks that one it's not the park

00:19:26.400 It's... it's me

00:19:28.860 I'm trans, Norma

00:19:31.240 And everyone at school knows

00:19:33.020 And everyone at home knows

00:19:34.460 And being here, it's like a whole new place

00:19:37.940 I can just be Barney

00:19:39.400 And I can choose if and when I tell people

00:19:42.000 I've never been happier

00:19:43.340 And that's saying something when I spent a day chased by terrifying zombie mascots

00:19:47.560 Pugsley reminded me how important it is to live your life without apology

00:19:52.360 So, I think I gotta give living here a shot

00:19:55.400 Don't you?

00:19:56.400 you don't need my permission so sad it's so sad fostering that kind of confusion for kids 0.59

00:20:02.400 there's also ada twist scientists and friends it's got a gay wedding in their jurassic world 0.58

00:20:08.100 camp cretaceous features that and then you have um coco melon lane has gay dad singing to their 0.53

00:20:15.560 son who is dancing in a dress very subversive and again i just think sad now elon musk called his 0.53

00:20:23.080 230 plus million followers on X to cancel their subscriptions. Now I do believe that Elon Musk

00:20:29.040 actually believes that he also has beef with the guy who runs Netflix or started Netflix. So

00:20:35.340 that's probably a part of what's going on there, but we definitely have to be extremely vigilant

00:20:41.360 in what we are allowing our kids to consume. You can't just assume that because it's rated G

00:20:45.780 or because it's Cocomelon or because it's Paw Patrol or because it's any of these things that

00:20:50.160 it's going to be fine, that it's going to be innocuous. Like if you're going to allow your

00:20:54.460 child to watch something, you should at least say, look, you're not going to watch that one

00:20:58.120 unless I watch it. That's the most important thing. But also you could be like, we're not

00:21:02.620 going to watch things after 2017. Things got really, really weird after that. And we just

00:21:08.620 can't trust it. So how did this really start? I mean, how did we go from, okay, we just want

00:21:14.440 these partners to be able to visit each other at the hospital to now pushing drag queens and 0.85

00:21:19.140 transgenderism on little kids, on toddlers. We'll get into that in just a second. Let me 0.97

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00:22:22.160 Allie. So all of this has really happened in a matter of 10 to 11 years. Isn't that crazy? Like

00:22:32.620 when we think back to 2014, doesn't seem like that long ago, graduated from college in 2014.

00:22:38.280 And yet I remember distinctly a conversation that I had with some friends at school about

00:22:44.800 whether gay marriage so-called would ever be legalized. And I remember us talking about the

00:22:51.620 implications of that and the consequences of that. And, you know, a few years later,

00:22:55.720 people would have thought that our conversation sounded like a bunch of cavemen of talking about

00:23:00.060 ancient Rome and how Rome fell and all of that. And that would never happen. Well, the slippery

00:23:05.480 slope was way more slippery than any of us could have ever thought. I mean, that conversation that

00:23:10.660 we were having in college was actually true, but there was no way we could have foreseen in 2014,

00:23:16.300 the consequences of redefining marriage. But of course it makes sense when you say a husband can

00:23:21.780 become a wife or a wife can become a husband. Essentially what you're saying is that men and

00:23:25.340 women are interchangeable, that they're essentially the same. And so if you're saying a husband can

00:23:30.340 become a wife and vice versa, then why can't a man become a woman? And there are some people who

00:23:34.900 will say, okay, I'm okay. The LGBT or the LGB all makes sense, but it's without the T it's the same 0.96

00:23:42.020 math. If a husband can become a wife, a man can become a woman and vice versa. But if there is 0.71

00:23:47.840 a distinction between man and woman, there's a distinction between husband and wife, and there's

00:23:52.900 distinction between mother and father. But when we redefined marriage, we redefine gender, we

00:23:58.960 redefined parenting and that has implications not only on our perception of reality has

00:24:04.460 implications for women's rights women's spaces women's scholarships has implications for children

00:24:09.700 has implications for how we create children how we parent children and i don't think the supreme

00:24:14.960 court understood that at the time but that slope i mean we slid down it really quickly it was a

00:24:21.740 5-4 decision so pretty close that ruled that the 14th amendment guarantees same-sex couples the

00:24:27.160 fundamental right to marry and required all states to both license and recognize those marriages.

00:24:32.060 Now, if you are perceptive, you might think, gosh, the 14th Amendment has been used to create a lot

00:24:37.060 of rights out of thin air like abortion. It was the same thing with Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade

00:24:41.120 was overturned. And so some people were afraid when Roe v. Wade was overturned that that might

00:24:47.700 also mean that Obergefell is overturned. And I don't know, that is something that could possibly

00:24:53.180 happened. Now, the Supreme Court would never rule on whether or not it is moral for two men

00:24:57.640 to marry each other. That's not their job. Their job is to rule whether or not something is

00:25:02.960 constitutional. And many people would argue, as Clarence Thomas would argue and did argue,

00:25:09.480 this is not constitutional. Under Trump's first term, the progressive message escalated with

00:25:14.720 activism. Like the 2017 Women's March, many companies and organizations were bullied into

00:25:19.600 accepting the progressive rhetoric around gender, race, equity. But even in 2017, when we were

00:25:25.260 talking about socialism and feminism, like those were the two big things. We weren't really talking

00:25:29.620 about transgenderism very much. It just seemed so far out. We weren't as concerned with all of this 1.00

00:25:35.600 LGBTQ indoctrination of children. We talked about it some, but it just wasn't like the center of

00:25:42.800 our concern. But then we entered what we will call the peak woke era. So wokeness seemed to peak

00:25:49.080 around 2020 to 2022. Like that's, I think back to those times and I'm like, I've seen things like

00:25:56.480 I've been through some stuff. Like I feel a little traumatized by that era, but also a lot stronger

00:26:03.720 because if you were someone during that time, which, you know, we've all learned and changed.

00:26:08.100 So I'm not judging if like your journey has been, you saw the light sometime after that.

00:26:12.900 But if you went through 2020 already with eyes wide open, you really saw some things.

00:26:19.000 If you didn't post the black square and you didn't fall for the narrative, the complete

00:26:24.320 narrative surrounding George Floyd, you didn't assent to the BLM rhetoric, specifically within

00:26:30.180 the evangelical church, you rejected the white guilt and the narrative of systemic racism in

00:26:35.100 America. You also said at the same time in the same month, I'm also not celebrating pride month.

00:26:41.240 And then at the same time in the same month, you're like, no, you're not making me wear masks.

00:26:45.960 Like you had to stand really strong on so many things. So I just want to give a fist bump to

00:26:51.640 all of you who were there with me because that was a tough time and things got really crazy.

00:26:57.440 So let's just, I know it's traumatizing. Let's just hearken back to that. Let's remember some

00:27:02.000 of the insanity that was going on. And honestly, a lot of these things that I just discussed are

00:27:07.700 seen in this one video. And I'll just tell you, I'm not loving it. Saw it too. I'm Amara Jones,

00:27:15.360 founder of TransLash Media. In this Black Lives Matter moment, Black trans women have a very

00:27:20.360 simple message. Stop killing us. We can't expect others to care about us more than we care about 1.00

00:27:26.220 ourselves. We're all free or none of us is. Okay. So that was McDonald's. McDonald's decided

00:27:34.580 that instead of fixing their ice cream machine, they are going to put this video out. I mean,

00:27:41.360 I won't even go through just like everything that's wrong with it. Also, this was a black 1.00

00:27:46.520 person who identifies as trans. All we needed there was like a mask or something just to typify

00:27:53.040 everything that was going on in this moment. Under the Biden administration, schools were

00:27:57.580 pressured to push LGBTQ curricula, let transgender individuals into women's spaces and sports,

00:28:04.580 you'll remember it, I'll never stop talking about this. They use the Department of Agriculture, 0.98

00:28:10.100 the USDA to take away snap funds. So that is what funds free lunches and breakfast for poor

00:28:18.820 students in public schools. And even in private schools, they took that funding away from schools

00:28:25.580 who said, yeah, we're not going to let boys into girls' bathrooms or those schools kowtowed to them 1.00

00:28:30.800 and said, okay, we will because we need these poor kids to get breakfast and lunch. So it was 0.51

00:28:34.640 more important to the Biden administration that boys can go into girls' bathrooms than poor kids 0.99

00:28:40.160 get fed. Okay. Don't tell me about how progressivism and Democrats care about the poor 0.92

00:28:44.900 and care about the marginalized. I'm so tired of that, that, oh yeah, well, Republicans get this

00:28:49.500 right, but Democrats care about all these, but no, they don't. No, they don't. It's just about

00:28:54.680 LGBTQ for the most part and climate change and anything that can be used as a vector for more 0.73

00:28:58.940 power so in this environment corporations pushed woke lgbtq messaging into every corner of life 0.86

00:29:06.180 and this is when like target for example became so um audacious during peak woke and then there

00:29:13.960 was the children's show blue's clues they featured a pride parade for in 2021 that included trans

00:29:19.860 animals and drag queens got three hey blue look at all these families hi families it's time for a

00:29:30.900 pride parade families marching one by one hurrah hurrah families marching one by one hurrah hurrah

00:29:39.620 this family has two mommies they love each other so proudly and they all go marching in the big

00:29:47.720 notice the communist like a black power fist on the drag queen's microphone 0.94

00:29:56.480 with the lesbian crocodiles for blue's clues you just got a letter blue's clues it's from me 0.99

00:30:05.800 shut yourself down also bud light um because most of their consumer base 0.94

00:30:14.160 is loving things like this um had dylan mulvaney this is a man who thinks that he's not only a

00:30:21.960 woman but calls himself a girl remember he had the whole series days of girlhood and very often

00:30:27.660 would dress like a child okay and we're all just supposed to accept that and think that's okay

00:30:32.000 and then bud light was like this this is it this is our spokesperson now dylan we need you to dress

00:30:39.440 up like audrey hepburn with a really heavy smoky eye and we need you to talk about our beer okay

00:30:49.040 so that's what was going on and that was just a couple years ago and the reason why there was so

00:30:54.280 much backlash is because that was like the end of the peak woke era and bud light of all of all

00:31:01.660 companies did not did not realize that so after all of that okay just so much we could have i mean

00:31:07.820 we could go on and on and on. And we did, we had so many episodes about this, just how hard they

00:31:12.900 were pushing. We had all of these hospitals that they were admitting that they were doing

00:31:16.420 surgeries on children to, um, or on minors, rather double mastectomies, all kinds of genital

00:31:24.980 mutilation, chemical castration on these kids who thought they were the opposite gender,

00:31:29.660 even illegally. And there were a lot of people, especially people like Matt Wall. She blew the

00:31:34.560 whistle on those things. We have Vanessa Savage, uh, Dr. Ethan Heim, who did the same thing down

00:31:41.060 in Houston, who blew the whistle on all of this happening. And that really is what marked the

00:31:47.640 shift back saying, okay, you know what? We were sympathetic. A lot of people were sympathetic to

00:31:53.640 the argument that you've got two people who love each other. We don't agree with their relationship,

00:31:59.100 but they want to visit each other in the hospital. They want some of the same rights. Okay. I'm not

00:32:03.360 saying Christians should have been sympathetic to the redefinition of marriage, but that was a lot 0.66

00:32:08.120 of people were able to comprehend that, but it went too far too fast. So over the last several

00:32:14.460 years, conservatives have pushed back. Christians have pushed back and really have had success in 0.98

00:32:20.220 pushing back against LGBTQ activism and the broader culture wars. You can actually see that 0.72

00:32:25.500 shift showing up in public opinion, in state laws, in corporate behavior, and even major

00:32:31.480 institution. So we'll get into that in just a second. Let me take a quick pause and tell you

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00:33:33.260 shopify.com slash Allie. So before 2015, the majority of people were actually against

00:33:44.760 homosexuality. They were against what is called gay marriage. And the reason why I say so-called

00:33:50.140 gay marriage or quote unquote gay marriage is because marriage is defined and instituted by

00:33:54.000 God. You can't redefine it as something other than what God calls it. And so that's why I just

00:33:58.760 have a hard time, uh, with that language. Cause it seems like validating something that God doesn't

00:34:04.760 actually call marriage, but it's crazy to think that only 11 to 12 years ago that people, most

00:34:12.700 people in the country were like, yeah, not on board with that. But after 2015 things changed.

00:34:17.280 So actually the law and Supreme court decisions, they're not necessarily downstream from culture,

00:34:22.860 like what the culture thinks about things can sometimes be downstream from the law and Supreme

00:34:27.400 Court decisions. But Gallup polling recently showed for the first time in decades that, uh,

00:34:34.260 the support for gay marriage peaked in 2022, uh, 71%. And now it's dipped slightly to around 68%.

00:34:43.200 So not a huge dip. I'm not saying, oh my gosh, the support is absolutely crumbling,

00:34:47.960 but the fact that it's dipped at all for the first time in decades, I do think is notable.

00:34:54.340 Republican support for same-sex marriage is now at its lowest point since Gallup started tracking

00:35:00.320 the issue nearly three decades ago. So as low as it was 30 years ago, when it comes to trans issues,

00:35:07.760 the movement in public opinion has been much more pronounced. So this is the one that has made 1.00

00:35:12.300 people just turn around and say, wait, how did we get here? Pew research found that a majority of

00:35:17.120 Americans, about 56% now support banning gender transition, so-called procedures for minors,

00:35:23.780 which is a 10-point increase since 2022. That's great. We need it to be way higher. Those are 1.00

00:35:30.960 rookie numbers. 56%. It's got to be 106%, obviously, but I'm surprised that it's not like

00:35:38.980 90%, honestly. I think that if most of the public knew what this entails and really thought about

00:35:46.140 it. Most of these issues, a lot of people just don't know about, they don't think about.

00:35:49.660 I think if they really knew what was going on, but 10% jump since 2022, since peak woke,

00:35:55.340 that's great. Let's keep going. What's especially significant is that support for these restrictions

00:36:00.080 has also risen among Democrats. Even among Democrats, support for limiting these procedures

00:36:05.640 for minors has increased noticeably in just a few years. Same thing with so-called trans athletes. 0.95

00:36:11.820 Pew found that 66% of Americans favor requiring trans athletes to compete based on birth sex with

00:36:18.720 similar majorities on bathrooms and facilities. It's interesting that even more Americans

00:36:22.700 want that fairness in sports than they want to ban these, uh, procedures. And this is not just

00:36:28.300 limited to conservatives support for these positions has grown across party lines. And

00:36:34.200 then we see Republicans really taking a stand. Whereas I don't know that a few years ago,

00:36:38.320 Republicans would have been brave enough to say this, to come right out and say, look,

00:36:42.300 we're not celebrating pride month. We are celebrating the family. Tennessee governor

00:36:47.100 Bill Lee has signed a resolution declaring June nuclear family month as an alternative to the

00:36:52.480 usual pride month. So the resolution reads like this, the nuclear family consisting of one husband,

00:36:58.820 one wife, and any biological adopted or foster children is God's design for familial structure 0.50

00:37:04.640 and has been the bedrock of society since the creation of the world. I love that. That's from

00:37:09.600 Tennessee House of Representatives. Whereas the nuclear family is under attack in our beloved

00:37:14.180 state and nation, and it is our responsibility to uplift, protect, and support values that help

00:37:20.600 Tennessee prosper. That's amazing. So if you're in Tennessee, celebrate nuclear family month,

00:37:27.740 celebrate the family that God created that he calls good. Nearly half the states in the country

00:37:32.180 have now passed laws banning health care providers from giving minors puberty blockers,

00:37:36.100 gastric hormones, or gender mutilating surgeries. In 2025 alone, several states expanded or

00:37:41.820 strengthened those laws, some even imposing penalties on medical providers who perform

00:37:46.460 the procedures. On top of this, the Trump administration's January 2025 executive orders

00:37:51.400 explicitly have barred federal funding promotion or support for child so-called transitions.

00:37:57.860 Nearly 30 states now require school sports participation to be based on your sex.

00:38:03.740 Last month, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton reached a groundbreaking settlement with Texas

00:38:08.560 Children's Hospital that requires the facility to establish the nation's first dedicated

00:38:13.300 detransition clinic.

00:38:14.880 You'll remember Vanessa Sivage, our Share the Arrows award winner at Share the Arrows

00:38:19.020 2024.

00:38:20.440 Also, she's been on the show.

00:38:21.900 She was part of the whistle blowing that happened there. 0.94

00:38:24.980 the Texas Children's, even after those procedures were banned, they were still giving cross-sex 0.62

00:38:29.380 hormones and puberty blockers to minors who were confused about their gender. And so Attorney

00:38:35.360 General Kim Paxton went after them and said, as a part of the settlement, okay, now you have to

00:38:40.000 have a clinic that helps those who are de-transitioning. I mean, praise God, that's 1.00

00:38:44.120 amazing. It also orders the hospital to pay $10 million for improperly billing Texas Medicaid for

00:38:50.060 prohibited and illegal gender transition procedures, including the use of false diagnosis

00:38:54.920 codes. So you'll remember, good job, Vanessa. That is something that she blew the whistle on

00:39:00.940 and talked about on this show. And gosh, I just think about all of this. And I think about our

00:39:05.540 phrase, another alliteration that we have used so much for so many years, politics matter because

00:39:09.700 policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people and people

00:39:14.380 matter. Why should Christians engage in the culture war? Because it does something 0.66

00:39:18.760 because we are to pursue justice. I hear Micah 6, 8 used so much by so-called progressive

00:39:24.140 Christians seek justice, love mercy. This is seeking justice and loving mercy. Okay. Like

00:39:29.340 progressives don't have a monopoly on that verse. We define justice and mercy as God defines it,

00:39:33.820 not as the world defines it. This is seeking justice and mercy on behalf of these kids

00:39:38.300 who are being victimized by prophet-hungry doctors and therapists, and in some cases,

00:39:44.380 well-meaning or lunatic evil parents who are pushing them into these irreversible procedures

00:39:51.340 and causing all kinds of confusion. This is why Christians speak up. This is why you're brave in

00:39:57.240 the workplace. This is why it is worth sometimes being the only person or the first person to say,

00:40:03.440 know this is wrong. One, because it obeys God and it glorifies God, but also you don't know what God

00:40:08.680 can do through the mostly unseen and unsung acts of obedience by Christians. This is how he works. 0.98

00:40:15.200 Praise God for that. And sometimes it takes a long time. Like with the overturning of Roe v. Wade,

00:40:20.000 it took 50 years of Christians pushing back against that. The corporate world, we see similar 0.91

00:40:24.800 stuff. The Bud Light partnership with Dylan Mulvaney triggered a sustained boycott. They

00:40:30.380 completely reversed. They really tried to get those blue collar Southern people back. Target 0.95

00:40:36.300 scaled back visible pride displays and DEI initiatives after the 2023 backlash. Like I told

00:40:41.800 you, Southern California, June last year, I saw no pride stuff in Target. If you go online, you still

00:40:47.780 see pride stuff, but it's way toned down. No packing, underwear, and all of that crazy stuff.

00:40:53.660 If you type in pride like kids clothes on Target, nothing comes up. They're being extremely careful.

00:41:00.380 they're dialing it down a lot they're not merely as extreme as michael's it's going to be michelle's

00:41:07.640 before we know it um so target at least understands the economics at play here they understand

00:41:15.840 who their consumers are they're not completely going back on it but they are they have dialed

00:41:23.520 it back because of you because of me i'm not saying me in particular but because of people

00:41:27.960 like us saying no no i can i can get stuff elsewhere no i still wish i still wish that 0.67

00:41:36.360 chip and jojo had been like yeah you're you're promoting the genital mutilation of children to

00:41:43.280 people and we don't want to be a part of that now that would have made a really major statement

00:41:47.820 unfortunately that has not happened yet tractor supply cracker barrel all kinds of crazy stuff

00:41:54.600 they've kind of dialed it back and done an about face a lot more cautious according to gravity

00:42:01.240 research as of last june about two and five corporations were decreasing recognition of

00:42:05.220 pride month due to reputational risks wow wow that's crazy now we also see that there's a big

00:42:14.800 push among conservatives the renewed push that i would say to overturn obergefell namely by katie

00:42:21.440 Faust, founder of Them Before Us. She was a speaker chair of the Arrows last year, and she

00:42:25.700 has been on the show several times. She's just so clear and so courageous. For decades, it seemed

00:42:32.540 like we would never overturn Roe v. Wade. That happened because of lawmakers and activists and

00:42:37.820 pregnancy centers and podcasters and all kinds of people working together to push for what is good

00:42:43.600 legally for children inside the womb. And now we have Katie Faust, who has been outspoken about

00:42:49.560 wanting to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges. She has argued that the decision has hurt children by

00:42:54.880 separating them from their right to have both a mother and a father. She was on a pro-LGBTQ

00:43:01.820 podcast recently making her case up for. We actually enshrined a version of the family

00:43:07.500 that excludes a child's mother or father. And we said it is now unconstitutional to elevate

00:43:13.080 the one family form where they do not have to lose their mother or father to be in it.

00:43:16.380 There's a difference between permitting and promoting, and Obergefell promoted a form

00:43:21.960 of family that excludes one or both natural parents of a child.

00:43:26.300 Katie is amazing, and you should follow her.

00:43:29.280 You should follow them before us.

00:43:31.680 She talked a lot about this in her talk last year for Share the Arrows, and she's just

00:43:37.260 so good.

00:43:38.360 And she is leading this coalition now, this project called Greater Than, and it's based

00:43:44.320 on the idea that children's needs and rights are greater than adult wants, feelings, or political

00:43:50.940 goals. She talks a lot about IVF and surrogacy and sperm and egg selling. And this all centers for

00:43:57.220 her on the rights and the wellbeing of a child. Her campaign originally had the support of 47

00:44:02.920 conservative and Christian organizations working together to challenge same-sex marriage legally

00:44:07.520 and culturally. This is according to the Seattle times. It now has a hundred. According to the

00:44:13.980 Public Religion Research Institute, same-sex marriage support among young Americans 18 through

00:44:18.900 29 has seen a gradual decline since 2018. 79% of young Americans supported this right to 71%

00:44:25.880 today. So we'll see. It's not really about public opinion as much as what is constitutional. And of

00:44:31.900 course, for the Christian, what is right? Kids do have a rights to a mom and dad. And it's different

00:44:38.740 in an adoption situation versus a surrogacy situation.

00:44:43.500 The ideal for any child is to be

00:44:45.720 with their biological mom and dad,

00:44:48.680 but surrogacy, and I'm not only talking about

00:44:50.980 when it comes to gay surrogacy,

00:44:52.760 but surrogacy in general creates that broken situation

00:44:55.700 of separating that child from their parent,

00:44:58.080 from the gestator,

00:44:59.660 and then adoption redeems an already broken situation.

00:45:03.120 But whether it's adoption or surrogacy or whatever,

00:45:05.560 However, all of those children have a right to a mom and dad, if not their own mom and

00:45:11.080 dad. 0.99

00:45:11.860 Men and women are interchangeable.

00:45:13.780 Husbands and wives, moms and dads are not interchangeable.

00:45:16.540 God made us and said that is very good and God knows best.

00:45:21.800 All right.

00:45:22.740 I want to get to some voicemails that you guys sent me.

00:45:25.380 One of them actually about IVF and something that came up during your Bible study.

00:45:29.480 and then another one about having a child with autism

00:45:33.800 and being scared to have more kids.

00:45:36.060 So stick around for that.

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00:46:31.600 Allie. All right, let's play voicemail one. Hi. So my church small group this past week

00:46:45.080 brought up IVF. And is it okay? Most of the people in the group had no idea what IVF was.

00:46:54.180 If they did, it was very positive.

00:46:58.600 I was the only one that was probably the most equipped to talk about IVF

00:47:02.860 because I listened to the podcast.

00:47:06.200 I kind of gave my spiel of beliefs and that we should not agree with IVF.

00:47:13.400 But I think some of the other ladies' general consensus came down to, 1.00

00:47:18.700 well, we're going to pass these eggs anyway through periods and whatnot. 1.00

00:47:23.700 So what does it matter if we take some of them and give them a chance at life?

00:47:28.360 And then another lady figured, you know, in the end, it's God who makes the call anyway, whether the embryo grows or not.

00:47:36.580 So it's really, we can do what we want with embryos, but it's God who gives life.

00:47:43.780 And I really didn't know what to say after that.

00:47:45.960 So I would just like some more clarification on your take on IVF.

00:47:50.200 well thank you so much that's such a great question that so many people have curiosities

00:47:57.620 about and i did too a few years ago before i started researching it and good for you for

00:48:02.920 saying something because it can be really hard to be the only one in a room especially about a

00:48:06.820 sensitive topic like that and say actually i've got a different perspective so this is what i

00:48:12.000 would say is that god does give life but that does not justify all means by which we create life

00:48:18.180 God gives the life that is conceived outside of marriage too, and he also gives the life

00:48:22.880 that is conceived through rape, but that does not mean that he condones sexual promiscuity

00:48:27.140 or rape.

00:48:28.040 So it's not a good argument to say, well, if the life comes about, the means of conception

00:48:33.040 must have been God's will.

00:48:34.100 God brings good things out of bad choices all the time, but that doesn't make those

00:48:37.880 bad choices good.

00:48:39.500 There is also, I think, in this, in what some of these ladies were saying, just a huge 0.98

00:48:44.240 misunderstanding about biology.

00:48:46.760 An unfertilized egg, which dies during your menstrual cycle, is not life.

00:48:51.600 That egg only becomes life when it is fertilized by sperm.

00:48:54.500 And at the moment of fertilization, that is a unique human life.

00:48:57.660 After that moment, everything we do with that unique human life matters because he or she

00:49:03.160 is an image bearer of God.

00:49:05.140 Trying to say that that human life, as some people do, is not really life yet, or that

00:49:11.280 they're not an image bearer of God, or they don't have a soul yet, that just gets into

00:49:14.640 really murky territory that really makes us sound like the pro-abortion people, that while not all

00:49:19.360 human life is a person, not all human life really matters. The safest and most biblical perspective

00:49:24.300 is at the moment that human life is created at fertilization, that little human being matters

00:49:30.800 and how we treat them matters. And that's why I'm against IVF, because it is an ends justify the

00:49:36.080 means approach to having kids. And it risks mistreating image bearers of God. The typical,

00:49:41.960 Now hear me, typical IVF process.

00:49:45.000 If this was not, if not everything I say here was your IVF process, you don't have to, you

00:49:50.400 don't have to tell me because I know that there are some exceptions to this, but let

00:49:53.800 me just tell you the vast, vast majority of in vitro fertilization processes go like

00:49:59.820 this.

00:50:00.260 They involve pumping a woman's body with synthetic hormones, which have the potential, by the 0.99

00:50:04.780 way, to cause breast and ovarian cancer. 0.99

00:50:06.580 Um, this induces ovulation. Then several eggs are harvested. Usually then thereafter,

00:50:14.760 there is porn induced masturbation from the father that is then used to fertilize the eggs 0.97

00:50:19.220 in the lab, creating six or more embryos. Um, many of which are discarded without even consulting 0.97

00:50:25.820 the parents because some embryos will have genetic anomalies like down syndrome. Then you freeze the

00:50:31.780 remaining embryos, then you transfer the gender of the embryo that is chosen by the parents. 0.73

00:50:37.580 They can say, I want a girl first. I want a boy first. And so on and so on until the parents

00:50:42.960 have decided that they're done. And then often, often you have remaining embryos because there

00:50:48.500 are almost always remaining embryos. They're frozen indefinitely because the parents can't

00:50:53.800 bear to do anything else or they're thawed until they die. Or in better circumstances,

00:50:58.880 they might be adopted, maybe sometimes by friends in very rare circumstances, often by strangers.

00:51:05.360 There are well over a million frozen embryos in freezers right now across the country. And these

00:51:10.780 fertility clinics are raking in the dollars from these storage fees because the parents maybe 1.00

00:51:16.400 didn't want more than two, or the parents wanted a different gender than the ones left over. Paris 1.00

00:51:21.400 Hilton had created a dozen boys. She wanted a girl. So she needed to create more and use a surrogate 1.00

00:51:26.560 to carry that baby. There's so many different layers to this, or maybe those babies are in a 0.98

00:51:32.940 freezer because the parents died or they got divorced, or maybe the mother had to have a

00:51:36.300 hysterectomy and she can't have anymore. And in a lot of these cases, these were Christian parents

00:51:41.940 who went in not wanting to do away with any life and wanting to just have babies. And they did not 0.84

00:51:49.440 realize, and we're not told from the beginning, all of the consequences that can come with IVF.

00:51:53.580 And these little embryos inside the womb, they're people. And even when parents with the best

00:52:00.480 intentions start IVF, they can unintentionally put these little people, these embryos at risk.

00:52:08.680 Inducing the creation of life, knowing these moral risks exist is very different than the

00:52:15.140 natural but tragic process of a miscarriage because your intention there, your knowledge

00:52:20.260 there is obviously to create life and to carry the life and obviously natural death happens,

00:52:25.120 but IVF creates a lot more risk. Anytime you take sex outside or procreation outside of sex,

00:52:33.180 you are going to have some moral and ethical risk there. So I would never encourage IVF,

00:52:40.600 no matter what. I know that there are some rare cases where you're working with a Christian doctor 1.00

00:52:45.160 and they promise never to do away with any embryos. I'm just telling you in every circumstance 0.86

00:52:50.880 of IVF, things happen that you didn't foresee, that you didn't intend. And you're left in this

00:52:55.760 impossible situation that I have talked many of you through that, oh my gosh, I'm a Christian.

00:53:00.100 I see that what I did was really difficult, but I have these two beautiful kids and I have six

00:53:04.160 embryos left. I can't have any more kids than I don't know what to do. It's tough. And I wouldn't

00:53:09.700 wish that upon anyone. Your children through IVF are made in God's image, just as valuable as

00:53:15.440 anyone else. However, I would never, ever, ever encourage a couple to go through IVF because of 0.76

00:53:21.480 the risk to them, because of the risk first and foremost to the child. All right, let me get to

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00:54:43.180 All right, let's listen to our final voicemail, voicemail two.

00:54:47.400 Hi, Allie. I just had a question or maybe I'm just looking for encouragement. I feel like I

00:54:54.920 kind of already know the answer um just from like reading my bible and everything but I don't know

00:55:01.820 um so I have an old my oldest son he has special needs he has autism um he's only three so I don't

00:55:09.840 really know what direction he's going um he's not necessarily severe but it's just hard to say

00:55:17.380 And then I have a second son who, typical, he's only 16 months, but that seems to be the direction he's going.

00:55:26.480 And I really, really want another baby, but I'm just scared and I'm trying not to live in fear.

00:55:34.420 Like I said, I feel like I already know the answer.

00:55:36.520 Like, I should just do it, but maybe I'm just looking for that encouragement.

00:55:41.360 I'm scared to take the attention away from my oldest because we work with him a lot.

00:55:46.060 We take him to therapy a lot, and I'm already struggling to balance my typical son and my special needs son, but I want to grow my family, and I'm scared I'm going to be 60 one day and wish I had that third baby, but third, fourth, so on, but I don't know.

00:56:04.580 I just wanted to call and ask you because I love when you're talking about family and how we should keep having babies, but this always is my, like, exception to the role in my mind, but I feel like it's not biblical.

00:56:20.080 So thank you.

00:56:22.440 Bye.

00:56:25.300 Well, I know this was probably a hard question to ask because there's just a lot of different vulnerable layers there.

00:56:33.800 I'm not going to be the person that's going to say you should always keep having children no

00:56:40.180 matter what. I think the rule is yes, that God wants us when we can to have children.

00:56:47.580 I think adoption is beautiful. I think fostering is beautiful. I think having biological kids is

00:56:52.280 beautiful. We are told to be fruitful and multiply. And yes, I do think that there are situations in

00:56:58.460 which we employ wisdom and say, not right now. And I think that there are moral ways to try to

00:57:06.760 stop pregnancy or to prevent pregnancy from happening against all hormonal contraception

00:57:12.880 because it can eliminate the life of a child who has already been fertilized, but hasn't been

00:57:18.360 implanted yet. So I would never recommend that, but there are much more natural and moral means

00:57:23.320 to actually prevent fertilization. I know that's not what you're asking. I just wanted to

00:57:27.700 say that there in case anyone is concerned that I would be promoting hormonal birth control,

00:57:32.180 but I don't think that Christians are bound to get pregnant every single year. I don't think

00:57:39.940 that Christians have the obligation to have a dozen kids no matter what. I just want to encourage you

00:57:46.540 that you are basically postpartum right now. Okay. 16 months, maybe it seems like a long time

00:57:51.960 ago to you. I've got three kids. It's not a long time ago. You don't have to make this decision

00:57:56.900 right now. You have a lot that is in front of you that is on your plate. You are taking care of a

00:58:01.640 son who right now requires probably a lot of your mental and physical energy. I mean, a three-year-old

00:58:08.040 boy anyway requires a lot of physical and mental energy. Then you've got a toddler. Those are two

00:58:13.960 very energy requiring ages, especially when it comes to boys. Don't put so much pressure on

00:58:23.740 yourself right now to make the decision in this moment. You know, there were times definitely

00:58:30.660 when I was in the midst of postpartum, when I was recovering from C-sections, when I was

00:58:34.700 recovering from my V-back that I was like, you know, I've talked about this before. I just can't

00:58:38.600 do it. I'm just scared of birth. I'm scared of what it'll, um, what I'll have to go through and

00:58:43.540 all of that. I think that those were legitimate fears. I think it was okay for me to think that

00:58:47.880 and to worry about that. But as time goes on, your perspective changes, your season changes,

00:58:53.220 what your kids need changes, you might feel differently in a year. So that's what I'll say.

00:58:59.480 I will say that you don't have to make that decision right now. And I would be talking to

00:59:05.800 godly mentors in your life. I'd obviously be praying. I'd obviously be talking with your

00:59:10.340 husband about this. And I wouldn't make the decision based on, oh my goodness, is God going

00:59:17.060 to take care of my family? Oh my goodness, is God going to take care of my son? You know that he's

00:59:21.460 going to take care of you no matter what, but I would simply assess where you are and what is

00:59:28.020 required of you in the moment. And I know that's not a hard and fast answer, but I just can't tell

00:59:33.580 you not knowing every single facet of your situation and exactly what it looks like with

00:59:37.480 your son. Yes, you should try to have a child right now. No, you should wait two years. I would

00:59:43.980 say, give yourself, give yourself a little bit of grace and a little bit of time. I mean, two kids

00:59:50.440 in two years. That's a lot. That's a lot. You're going through a lot right now. And I think you

00:59:55.620 might feel differently in a few months or a few years. And I think God will be faithful to give

01:00:01.620 you the conviction and give you the peace that you need. So just don't let this rob your contentment

01:00:07.000 with the moment that you're in right now. Do the next right thing in faith with excellence and

01:00:12.040 for the glory of God. That's really all you can do. That's all you can do. All right. I hope that

01:00:18.560 was helpful. And it's encouraging to me that you're thinking through it this way. You just

01:00:22.180 want to glorify God and love your kids. And that's what all of us, that's what all of us

01:00:25.920 want to do. Sometimes it's hard to know exactly what that looks like, but it sounds to me like

01:00:30.540 you're doing a really good job. So, um, thank you so much for sending in your voicemail. Don't

01:00:35.580 forget to send in your voicemails. I don't have the number in front of me, but we will post it

01:00:41.260 on Instagram and we can put it in the description of this episode too. Um, so that you can call

01:00:46.540 and you can ask your questions. You can ask for advice or ask for clarity on something. I'll do

01:00:50.580 my best to answer it. All right. We will be back here on Wednesday. We'll be talking about Talarico.

01:00:55.460 We'll be talking about Ken Paxton, and you'll also get to meet another member of my family

01:01:00.180 that you haven't met yet. All right. We'll see you guys then.

01:01:16.540 Thank you.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 01, 2026

Ep 1354 ｜ 'Pride Month' Is Here — but Christians Are Gaining Ground

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