Ep 1354 ｜ 'Pride Month' Is Here — but Christians Are Gaining GroundÂ
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 1 minute
Words per minute
174.22812
Harmful content
Misogyny
24
sentences flagged
Toxicity
16
sentences flagged
Hate speech
63
sentences flagged
Summary
As some people like to call it Pride Month, we ve got an update on the sexual revolution. Unfortunately, wokeness has not gone away, but the tide is turning. We re going to talk about where we are in this LGBTQ culture war and what Christians are doing about it. Also, we have some voicemails with some very good questions.
Transcript
00:00:00.560
Happy Noahic Covenant Month, as some people like to call it Pride Month.
0.99
00:00:04.760
We've got an update on the sexual revolution.
0.96
00:00:07.600
Unfortunately, wokeness has not gone away, but the tide is turning.
0.57
00:00:14.380
So-called Pride Month this year looks different than it has in years past.
1.00
00:00:18.600
We're going to talk about where we are in this LGBTQ culture war and what Christians
0.98
00:00:24.880
Also, we've got voicemails with some very good questions.
00:00:27.980
We've got all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends
00:00:31.680
at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com, American meat delivered right to your front door. Use
00:00:36.300
code Allie at checkout for a discount, goodranchers.com, code Allie.
00:00:49.280
Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful and peaceful weekend.
00:00:54.900
and I promise we will be talking about Paxton v. Tallarico on Wednesday. I really care about how
00:01:03.440
that Texas election turns out, and so we will be discussing it. Is it possible for Tallarico to
00:01:10.240
take Texas? We'll get into all of that. Also, if you're not signed up for Share the Arrows,
00:01:15.240
what are you doing? If you're a woman in this audience, if you're just stopping by for the
00:01:19.720
first time, if you're here for the millionth time, come on, join us. You will not regret it.
00:01:24.380
you will leave edified. You will leave taught. You will leave challenged. You will leave so
00:01:29.120
refreshed and refilled. We've got Costi Hinn, Shane and Shane. We've got Rosaria Butterfield,
00:01:33.680
Elisa Childers, so many more. Go to sharethearrows.com. It's brought to you by our friends
00:01:38.100
at Range Leather, October 10th, Dallas, Texas. Can't wait to see you there. All right. Well,
00:01:43.220
I've got some news to start off this Monday episode. Maybe some of you have already heard
00:01:47.880
this. Maybe you haven't, but God's eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch.
00:01:52.160
Now, today marks the beginning of what some may refer to as Pride Month, and this is a
00:01:58.080
month where those who call themselves LGBTQ celebrate their sexuality, and that sexuality
00:02:06.320
And so today, we will look at where the movement is for America, for worse in some ways, but
00:02:11.000
also for better in other ways, so that we Christians can know how to pray, how to minister,
00:02:16.740
how to speak, how to shine light in the darkness.
00:02:19.580
Now for Christians, we celebrate today like we do every day.
00:02:27.040
And when we think of pride, we don't think of pride month.
00:02:31.940
We don't think pride and sexual so-called identity.
00:02:35.420
We think of the vice that comes before failure.
00:02:38.160
When we look to the rainbow, we think of God's promise to Noah and to the whole world
00:02:42.280
that never will he flood the earth again and that he's faithful to keep his promises.
00:02:46.500
When we think of love, we don't follow it up with some kind of circular, meaningless mantra
00:02:53.620
We think of that, which is never prideful and never boast, never rejoice in wrong and
00:03:00.440
We think of God who tells us that he is love first John four, eight, and therefore he alone
00:03:08.000
And when we see this acronym LGBTQ, we don't see sexual identities to celebrate.
00:03:16.500
who are pursuing what is right in their own eyes to the detriment of their bodies and souls.
00:03:20.480
We see people who are lost as we were all once lost, deceived as we were all once deceived,
00:03:26.460
and who need the kind of love that points toward Jesus and his truth. We think of Jesus's words
00:03:32.060
in Matthew 19, four through five, which say that God made us male and female in the beginning
00:03:36.540
so that a man will leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife
00:03:40.880
and the two will become one flesh. We remember that we're not nicer than God. So if God says
00:03:46.200
something is good, he says it out of love. If he says something is sin, he says so out of love. If
00:03:51.920
he is love, we can't out love him. We can't out mercy him. We can't out wisdom him. We can't out
00:03:56.480
compassion him. In fact, the most loving thing we can always do is agree with God. And God calls
00:04:04.260
homosexuality and the denial of our God-given sex, sin, and deception. And he calls the creation
0.95
00:04:10.880
of male and female in his image, very good. And he exclusively designates his holy marriage between
00:04:16.760
one man and one woman. Now, if you've been listening since maybe all the way back in 2000,
00:04:23.000
I believe it was 18 or 19 that we first talked about this acronym. This will be familiar, but
00:04:27.740
it bears repeating. Marriage between one man and one woman is rooted in creation. That's Genesis
0.93
00:04:34.180
127. It's reiterated throughout scripture, honor your father and mother. That's one example
00:04:39.540
repeated by Jesus, Matthew 19, four through five, representative of Christ and the church.
00:04:45.840
That's incredible. Ephesians five, and is therefore reflective of the gospel. So rooted,
00:04:51.800
reiterated, repeated, representative, and reflective. So when people say that the Bible
00:04:58.040
doesn't really mean homosexuality, it's not really talking about that. Jesus doesn't really
00:05:03.080
talk about that. There are all kinds of ways that we can try to finagle ourselves into justifying
00:05:08.900
sin by making an argument from absence. First, it's not true. The Bible does talk about these
00:05:15.140
things in the negative sense, but we also read the Bible asking, but what does God define
00:05:20.420
positively? Not just what does God call sin, but what does he call good? And if we love God,
00:05:26.060
we're not just trying to get away with things. We want to glorify him. Then we are trying to
00:05:30.620
align ourselves and our lives as closely to what he calls holy as we possibly can.
00:05:35.660
The Bible starts with a marriage between Adam and Eve ends with a marriage between the bridegroom
00:05:40.060
and the bride. These are gender specific designations that have eternal significance
00:05:44.760
that's reflected here on earth only between a man and a woman. That's why it's so incredibly
0.95
00:05:49.680
sacred. And that is why we don't celebrate pride month because we cannot, we can't by definition,
00:05:55.900
love others by affirming sin. And we push back against the darkness of the movement, not because
00:06:00.640
of hate, but because we love God and because it's bad for people. It's bad for children.
00:06:06.160
We love people. We love the family. We love children. And we want what God calls good.
00:06:12.000
We want what he calls good, right, and true, not only for ourselves, but for our neighbors.
00:06:18.820
Now, remember this because saying all of this, living all of this will bring with it its
00:06:25.860
fair share of criticism. I know that very, very well. As anyone in the public space who has been
00:06:31.320
talking about this knows. And I just remember this, Luke 6, 26, Jesus says, woe to you when
00:06:37.880
all people speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets. Okay. So it's not just,
00:06:44.160
hey, it's an option if you're a Christian that everyone's going to like you, or maybe like some
00:06:48.720
people aren't going to like you. And that's just, you know, that's just life. No, Jesus actually
00:06:52.920
says, no, it's bad. Woe to you when everyone has something nice to say about you. For so they did
00:07:00.600
to the false prophets. People love when you lie to them. People love when you say things just to
0.59
00:07:06.780
make them feel good. People love affirmation of sin. We've probably all been there at one time
00:07:12.740
or another. We don't want to be around the friends, the pastors, the mentors who will tell us what's
00:07:17.100
true because we want to do what we want to do. And we don't like conviction. And so we might
00:07:21.980
speak badly of them or think badly of them. Well, Jesus says, woe to you when all people speak well
00:07:27.800
of you. And that's why I just remind myself and remind you to not to grade yourself or grade your
00:07:36.300
obedience or grade the word of God by people's reaction to you. Now we should do everything we
00:07:41.800
can to strive to be gentle and peaceable and kind and loving. But listen, if you speak what is
00:07:48.400
true. There will always be people who accuse you of being hateful and being bigoted and being
00:07:54.320
holier than thou and being self-righteous. It really doesn't matter how sweetly you say it.
00:07:59.060
It's not about how you say it for a lot of people. It's really about what you are saying.
00:08:06.140
And if they crucified Jesus, who was full of grace and truth, and they stoned Stephen, who was full
00:08:12.800
of grace and power, then why do you believe that you have the winsomeness and you have the
00:08:20.380
niceness and charisma to somehow escape the hatred of the world? It's just not going to happen. All
00:08:28.360
who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, will be persecuted. God loves
00:08:36.000
us. He loves his image bearers. So he created marriage. He created holy sexuality. He created
0.64
00:08:40.640
our bodies. He created gender, and he knows better. That's what it comes down to. God knows
1.00
00:08:46.400
better. So now that we have our base for all of this, let's dive into the culture war because
00:08:51.300
we're not called as Christians just to put our head in the sand. God has placed us in this
00:08:55.640
physical world, in this temporal space for a reason. We know that his eternal plan of redemption
00:09:00.080
is going off without a hitch. He's going to gather his church. The gates of hell will not prevail
00:09:03.760
against his church. And yet we have a purpose here to do the next right thing in faith with
00:09:07.680
excellence and for the glory of God to make this small plot of the earth, this tiny spot of
00:09:12.200
eternity, more like the kingdom of heaven, better, a better place for our neighbors, for the glory of
00:09:19.860
God. Okay. There's lots of ways to do that. Obviously we share the gospel, but we also,
00:09:24.520
for the sake of our neighbors, for the sake of the truth, push back against the darkness. So let's
00:09:28.760
dive into that darkness, but also see what are Christians up to and pushing back against this.
0.90
00:09:33.060
So we'll get into that in just a second. Let me pause, tell you about our first sponsor for the
00:09:36.620
day. It's fellowship home loans. Now, when was the last time that you and your husband went on
00:09:42.680
a vacation? Was it your honeymoon? Just the two of you. I'm not talking about like a work trip.
00:09:48.160
I'm not talking about a trip with your kids, although that's super fun, but no responsibilities,
00:09:53.360
no grocery lists, just being able to relax. It's probably been a while. Here's the thing.
00:09:58.860
Marriage is the most important investment that you'll ever make. And somewhere between mortgage
00:10:02.540
payments in the school drop-offs, a lot of couples stop investing in it. What if your house could
00:10:07.680
help you start again? It's called the second honeymoon loan. For 20 years, Mike and Brian
00:10:13.000
at Fellowship Home Loans have helped families use the equity they've built in their home
00:10:16.680
to honor the covenant that built it, a vow renewal, the trip you promised each other 10 years ago.
00:10:22.540
You've put this off for years. Don't put it off another day. Call today for a free 15-minute
00:10:27.860
checkup, no pressure, no obligation, $500 back at closing. Go to fellowshiphomeloans.com slash
00:10:33.800
Allie Fellowship Home Loans Mortgage Lending by the book, Nationwide Mortgage Bankers,
00:10:38.240
DBA Fellowship Home Loans, Equal Housing Lender, and MLS number 819382.
00:10:47.360
Okay. So we as a team decided to dig into, is all of this stuff just kind of dead? Is it gone?
00:10:54.460
we felt for a while that woke had been defeated i think a lot of people felt like it was impossible
00:10:59.800
for donald trump to win then he won after the craziness of 2020 it felt like for a while that
00:11:05.860
progressivism absolutely was going to dominate but then we had some really big wins and pushing
00:11:10.860
back against all of it as christian conservatives and it was like okay these companies seem to be
00:11:15.720
backing up well i have some bad news before i get to the good news a lot of these places are not
00:11:21.160
backing down at all. In fact, they're doubling down on this. If we look to the city of Boston,
00:11:27.160
this is where we found some of just the most atrocious and ridiculous things. I mean,
0.97
00:11:30.720
some of these things are just absurd and we had to include them just so you know that like
00:11:35.840
sin induces insanity too. If we look at the Boston public library, it's hosting
00:11:42.320
19 drag queen story time events. I had to double check that 19 drag queen story time events for
00:11:49.120
children during pride month. So we've got a picture right here. This is the advertisement,
00:11:54.400
Boston public library, specifically for kids, drag queen story, our time with Ms. Patty suitable for
00:12:01.000
children, 18 months to five years old. Now, when you think about what a drag queen is, it is a man
00:12:07.120
with prosthetic breasts, with fake nails, with huge hair, with lots of makeup, um, performing
00:12:14.680
and this case for children. Now, what good reason do we have to present a cross-dressing man
0.99
00:12:21.100
that uses a character version of femininity to perform to children? Like what good reason do
0.99
00:12:29.580
we have for that? There is something inherently sexual about drag. Don't let anyone tell you
00:12:35.160
different, that it's just about inclusion. It's just about something different, showing kids that
00:12:39.740
it's okay to be different. No, it's sowing confusion and it is sowing seeds of weird
00:12:46.140
sexuality from a very early age. There's no good reason for it. If we look at Boston mayor,
00:12:53.000
Michelle Wu, she is so far left. So she has an office of LGBTQ advancement. She is holding a
1.00
00:13:00.280
trans period pride event. Now I, again, had to just do a double take there. Yeah. Okay. You see
00:13:07.200
it. You see the advertisement and I'm like trans period. Surely we're talking about like the trans
00:13:11.840
era, like the, the trans like period of time. No, we're talking about menstruation. No, we need to
0.88
00:13:17.660
put back up the picture so everyone can see what this is. This is an event to discuss menstrual
00:13:24.380
equity and the experiences of transgender menstruators. Now that might've just put your
00:13:30.840
brain in a pretzel because we're like, who are we talking about? We're talking about women who I
00:13:37.020
identify as men still have their uterus and their eggs. And so they're having periods,
0.87
00:13:43.640
I suppose. Okay. I don't know why they need to be spoken to about tampons and things like that.
00:13:51.140
Or are we talking about the men that I've seen on social media who claim because of the synthetic
00:13:56.880
hormones that they're taking to try to look more like women, that they have some kind of menstrual
00:14:01.760
cycle, even though you don't have a uterus or eggs or any ability to menstruate. I don't know.
00:14:06.600
I bet you're probably going to get a mixed bag. So it says join mass now in the MA trans political
0.99
00:14:12.660
coalition for a consciousness raising discussion of menstrual equity and the experiences of
00:14:19.040
trans menstruators. So I guess it's men who no, no women who identify as men. And don't worry,
00:14:26.880
you get free period underwear provided to all attendees. It's funny, but it's sad. It's actually
00:14:33.340
really sad like what these women go through to try to change their bodies and not be a woman
00:14:38.140
i think that most women who identify as men they went through some sort of trauma some sort of
00:14:45.720
sexual trauma they're trying to run away from that with their bodies and it's very sad last
00:14:50.560
month mayor wu unveiled a program that provides vouchers for self-care and mental health services
00:14:55.660
to LGBTQ migrants. Specifically, the priority is for low-income trans and isolated LGBTQ plus
00:15:07.600
migrants in Boston. Now, how many transgender people are headed here from Nigeria? I don't
00:15:16.180
know. I assume that the number is going to increase though, once you realize that you can
00:15:22.120
get free stuff. If you start identifying as a low income, isolated queer and trans migrant
1.00
00:15:30.000
asylum seeker and refugee. Okay. This is all funded by the taxpayers in Boston. I just want
0.95
00:15:36.380
to remind you of that. As of this month, the city faces a budget deficit of nearly $50 million,
00:15:43.000
but sorry, the transgender people need their period underwear. The queer asylum seekers need
1.00
00:15:49.380
their yoga classes. Okay. So fork over your money, truck driver. Uh, this June, we also see that
1.00
00:15:58.080
stores are still offering pride. So there was that huge backlash against target. You'll remember that
00:16:03.440
because they went absolutely wild. They were like, they also felt, I think the left also felt
00:16:07.940
we have won forever and ever. Okay. And they decided to sell things like, I don't even want
00:16:14.400
to explain it, but this is what they were selling. And even marketing some of this stuff to children
00:16:18.620
packing underwear. Okay. So if you're a woman who identifies as a man, uh, compression tops,
00:16:24.820
if you're a woman who identifies as a man, um, tucking, uh, like swimsuits, if you're a man who
0.96
00:16:31.940
identifies, well, is it so ridiculous. We're talking about target who sells like chip and
0.89
00:16:36.980
Joanna gain stuff. We're talking about mostly suburban Christian women who are frequenting
00:16:43.880
these stores selling the craziest stuff you can imagine. Well, I went to Target for like the first
1.00
00:16:51.060
time in three years last year, and I went to two Targets in Southern California in June. There were
00:16:56.740
zero pride items, lots of 4th of July items, zero pride items. So these companies, we'll get into
00:17:05.060
Target in a second, have dialed things back, but not completely, not 100%. In fact, if we look at
00:17:11.080
the store, like Michael's, they are offering an entire pride collection of LGBTQ merchandise.
00:17:18.360
Okay. They've got lots of stickers that they're selling at Michael's in case you're doing a
00:17:22.800
project where you need these things. You can see them protect trans kids. That's the one of the
00:17:28.000
most subversive to me when we're talking about children going through chemical castration
00:17:32.620
and being told that they're the opposite sex. I mean, how evil there's another one. It's a raccoon.
00:17:39.220
how do people come up with this? It's a raccoon holding a banner that says, be gay, do crime.
0.99
00:17:44.880
I don't know. I don't understand. Okay. Here's one. Michael's. Okay. Where you're getting your
0.99
00:17:50.060
paint and your stuff for school projects. Here's an AR 15 in front of a pride flag and it says
00:17:57.680
defend equality. So Michael's, I guess is in favor of murder. If you do not align with the idea
0.81
00:18:05.680
that a man can become a woman and can enter a girl's bathrooms. Okay. Michaels, shout out Hobby
0.91
00:18:12.360
Lobby. Shout out Hobby Lobby because Hobby Lobby is, you know, selling Christian items, sells my
00:18:19.620
book. Thank you, Hobby Lobby, both of my books and actually sells things that you would want to buy
00:18:27.280
if you're a crafty person. Michaels, I don't know. I don't know who they're catering to here.
00:18:33.160
also there's an elementary school in new jersey that's hosting pride on the playground
00:18:38.340
an event for children on school grounds and promoting it on the website also very strange
00:18:46.260
very weird celebrate diversity inclusion and community together i think that these pride
00:18:51.740
events that are targeting kids it's just strange back in september you might remember there was a
00:18:57.900
boycott movement against netflix there have been a few over the years when x users started posting
00:19:02.780
clips from multiple children's shows on netflix that were platforming gay and trans characters
00:19:07.960
without telling you that by the way they're g-rated and you don't know but they're calling
00:19:12.860
people they them calling women he him things like that um here's an example this is from a
00:19:20.060
supposedly a children's show called dead end paranormal parks that one it's not the park
00:19:43.340
And that's saying something when I spent a day chased by terrifying zombie mascots
00:19:47.560
Pugsley reminded me how important it is to live your life without apology
00:19:56.400
you don't need my permission so sad it's so sad fostering that kind of confusion for kids
0.59
00:20:02.400
there's also ada twist scientists and friends it's got a gay wedding in their jurassic world
0.58
00:20:08.100
camp cretaceous features that and then you have um coco melon lane has gay dad singing to their
0.53
00:20:15.560
son who is dancing in a dress very subversive and again i just think sad now elon musk called his
0.53
00:20:23.080
230 plus million followers on X to cancel their subscriptions. Now I do believe that Elon Musk
00:20:29.040
actually believes that he also has beef with the guy who runs Netflix or started Netflix. So
00:20:35.340
that's probably a part of what's going on there, but we definitely have to be extremely vigilant
00:20:41.360
in what we are allowing our kids to consume. You can't just assume that because it's rated G
00:20:45.780
or because it's Cocomelon or because it's Paw Patrol or because it's any of these things that
00:20:50.160
it's going to be fine, that it's going to be innocuous. Like if you're going to allow your
00:20:54.460
child to watch something, you should at least say, look, you're not going to watch that one
00:20:58.120
unless I watch it. That's the most important thing. But also you could be like, we're not
00:21:02.620
going to watch things after 2017. Things got really, really weird after that. And we just
00:21:08.620
can't trust it. So how did this really start? I mean, how did we go from, okay, we just want
00:21:14.440
these partners to be able to visit each other at the hospital to now pushing drag queens and
0.85
00:21:19.140
transgenderism on little kids, on toddlers. We'll get into that in just a second. Let me
0.97
00:21:24.680
pause, tell you about our next sponsor for the day. It's Seven Weeks Coffee. Now this is a way
00:21:29.540
you can actually spend your dollars to align with your values. Unfortunately, a lot of these major
00:21:34.580
coffee companies, they're paying for abortions. They are definitely donating to the so-called
00:21:40.000
trans kids cause. And if you don't want to be a part of that, you want your caffeine to serve a
0.88
00:21:44.860
higher purpose, then you should switch to seven weeks coffee. It's really good. We drink it. It's
00:21:49.560
pesticide free, mold free, really great flavor, really high quality. But the best part is they
00:21:54.840
donate 10% of every sale to pregnancy centers across the country donated well over a million
00:22:00.020
dollars to these pregnancy centers who are saving lives every single day. I love them. They're the
00:22:05.340
real deal. If you subscribe to seven weeks coffee, you'll save 15% on your orders. Plus when you use
00:22:10.740
my code Allie, you save an extra 10%. So lots of savings. Plus they're donating those dollars to
00:22:16.460
those pregnancy centers. Go to sevenweekscoffee.com. Use promo code Allie, sevenweekscoffee.com, code
00:22:22.160
Allie. So all of this has really happened in a matter of 10 to 11 years. Isn't that crazy? Like
00:22:32.620
when we think back to 2014, doesn't seem like that long ago, graduated from college in 2014.
00:22:38.280
And yet I remember distinctly a conversation that I had with some friends at school about
00:22:44.800
whether gay marriage so-called would ever be legalized. And I remember us talking about the
00:22:51.620
implications of that and the consequences of that. And, you know, a few years later,
00:22:55.720
people would have thought that our conversation sounded like a bunch of cavemen of talking about
00:23:00.060
ancient Rome and how Rome fell and all of that. And that would never happen. Well, the slippery
00:23:05.480
slope was way more slippery than any of us could have ever thought. I mean, that conversation that
00:23:10.660
we were having in college was actually true, but there was no way we could have foreseen in 2014,
00:23:16.300
the consequences of redefining marriage. But of course it makes sense when you say a husband can
00:23:21.780
become a wife or a wife can become a husband. Essentially what you're saying is that men and
00:23:25.340
women are interchangeable, that they're essentially the same. And so if you're saying a husband can
00:23:30.340
become a wife and vice versa, then why can't a man become a woman? And there are some people who
00:23:34.900
will say, okay, I'm okay. The LGBT or the LGB all makes sense, but it's without the T it's the same
0.96
00:23:42.020
math. If a husband can become a wife, a man can become a woman and vice versa. But if there is
0.71
00:23:47.840
a distinction between man and woman, there's a distinction between husband and wife, and there's
00:23:52.900
distinction between mother and father. But when we redefined marriage, we redefine gender, we
00:23:58.960
redefined parenting and that has implications not only on our perception of reality has
00:24:04.460
implications for women's rights women's spaces women's scholarships has implications for children
00:24:09.700
has implications for how we create children how we parent children and i don't think the supreme
00:24:14.960
court understood that at the time but that slope i mean we slid down it really quickly it was a
00:24:21.740
5-4 decision so pretty close that ruled that the 14th amendment guarantees same-sex couples the
00:24:27.160
fundamental right to marry and required all states to both license and recognize those marriages.
00:24:32.060
Now, if you are perceptive, you might think, gosh, the 14th Amendment has been used to create a lot
00:24:37.060
of rights out of thin air like abortion. It was the same thing with Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade
00:24:41.120
was overturned. And so some people were afraid when Roe v. Wade was overturned that that might
00:24:47.700
also mean that Obergefell is overturned. And I don't know, that is something that could possibly
00:24:53.180
happened. Now, the Supreme Court would never rule on whether or not it is moral for two men
00:24:57.640
to marry each other. That's not their job. Their job is to rule whether or not something is
00:25:02.960
constitutional. And many people would argue, as Clarence Thomas would argue and did argue,
00:25:09.480
this is not constitutional. Under Trump's first term, the progressive message escalated with
00:25:14.720
activism. Like the 2017 Women's March, many companies and organizations were bullied into
00:25:19.600
accepting the progressive rhetoric around gender, race, equity. But even in 2017, when we were
00:25:25.260
talking about socialism and feminism, like those were the two big things. We weren't really talking
00:25:29.620
about transgenderism very much. It just seemed so far out. We weren't as concerned with all of this
1.00
00:25:35.600
LGBTQ indoctrination of children. We talked about it some, but it just wasn't like the center of
00:25:42.800
our concern. But then we entered what we will call the peak woke era. So wokeness seemed to peak
00:25:49.080
around 2020 to 2022. Like that's, I think back to those times and I'm like, I've seen things like
00:25:56.480
I've been through some stuff. Like I feel a little traumatized by that era, but also a lot stronger
00:26:03.720
because if you were someone during that time, which, you know, we've all learned and changed.
00:26:08.100
So I'm not judging if like your journey has been, you saw the light sometime after that.
00:26:12.900
But if you went through 2020 already with eyes wide open, you really saw some things.
00:26:19.000
If you didn't post the black square and you didn't fall for the narrative, the complete
00:26:24.320
narrative surrounding George Floyd, you didn't assent to the BLM rhetoric, specifically within
00:26:30.180
the evangelical church, you rejected the white guilt and the narrative of systemic racism in
00:26:35.100
America. You also said at the same time in the same month, I'm also not celebrating pride month.
00:26:41.240
And then at the same time in the same month, you're like, no, you're not making me wear masks.
00:26:45.960
Like you had to stand really strong on so many things. So I just want to give a fist bump to
00:26:51.640
all of you who were there with me because that was a tough time and things got really crazy.
00:26:57.440
So let's just, I know it's traumatizing. Let's just hearken back to that. Let's remember some
00:27:02.000
of the insanity that was going on. And honestly, a lot of these things that I just discussed are
00:27:07.700
seen in this one video. And I'll just tell you, I'm not loving it. Saw it too. I'm Amara Jones,
00:27:15.360
founder of TransLash Media. In this Black Lives Matter moment, Black trans women have a very
00:27:20.360
simple message. Stop killing us. We can't expect others to care about us more than we care about
1.00
00:27:26.220
ourselves. We're all free or none of us is. Okay. So that was McDonald's. McDonald's decided
00:27:34.580
that instead of fixing their ice cream machine, they are going to put this video out. I mean,
00:27:41.360
I won't even go through just like everything that's wrong with it. Also, this was a black
1.00
00:27:46.520
person who identifies as trans. All we needed there was like a mask or something just to typify
00:27:53.040
everything that was going on in this moment. Under the Biden administration, schools were
00:27:57.580
pressured to push LGBTQ curricula, let transgender individuals into women's spaces and sports,
00:28:04.580
you'll remember it, I'll never stop talking about this. They use the Department of Agriculture,
0.98
00:28:10.100
the USDA to take away snap funds. So that is what funds free lunches and breakfast for poor
00:28:18.820
students in public schools. And even in private schools, they took that funding away from schools
00:28:25.580
who said, yeah, we're not going to let boys into girls' bathrooms or those schools kowtowed to them
1.00
00:28:30.800
and said, okay, we will because we need these poor kids to get breakfast and lunch. So it was
0.51
00:28:34.640
more important to the Biden administration that boys can go into girls' bathrooms than poor kids
0.99
00:28:40.160
get fed. Okay. Don't tell me about how progressivism and Democrats care about the poor
0.92
00:28:44.900
and care about the marginalized. I'm so tired of that, that, oh yeah, well, Republicans get this
00:28:49.500
right, but Democrats care about all these, but no, they don't. No, they don't. It's just about
00:28:54.680
LGBTQ for the most part and climate change and anything that can be used as a vector for more
0.73
00:28:58.940
power so in this environment corporations pushed woke lgbtq messaging into every corner of life
0.86
00:29:06.180
and this is when like target for example became so um audacious during peak woke and then there
00:29:13.960
was the children's show blue's clues they featured a pride parade for in 2021 that included trans
00:29:19.860
animals and drag queens got three hey blue look at all these families hi families it's time for a
00:29:30.900
pride parade families marching one by one hurrah hurrah families marching one by one hurrah hurrah
00:29:39.620
this family has two mommies they love each other so proudly and they all go marching in the big
00:29:47.720
notice the communist like a black power fist on the drag queen's microphone
0.94
00:29:56.480
with the lesbian crocodiles for blue's clues you just got a letter blue's clues it's from me
0.99
00:30:05.800
shut yourself down also bud light um because most of their consumer base
0.94
00:30:14.160
is loving things like this um had dylan mulvaney this is a man who thinks that he's not only a
00:30:21.960
woman but calls himself a girl remember he had the whole series days of girlhood and very often
00:30:27.660
would dress like a child okay and we're all just supposed to accept that and think that's okay
00:30:32.000
and then bud light was like this this is it this is our spokesperson now dylan we need you to dress
00:30:39.440
up like audrey hepburn with a really heavy smoky eye and we need you to talk about our beer okay
00:30:49.040
so that's what was going on and that was just a couple years ago and the reason why there was so
00:30:54.280
much backlash is because that was like the end of the peak woke era and bud light of all of all
00:31:01.660
companies did not did not realize that so after all of that okay just so much we could have i mean
00:31:07.820
we could go on and on and on. And we did, we had so many episodes about this, just how hard they
00:31:12.900
were pushing. We had all of these hospitals that they were admitting that they were doing
00:31:16.420
surgeries on children to, um, or on minors, rather double mastectomies, all kinds of genital
00:31:24.980
mutilation, chemical castration on these kids who thought they were the opposite gender,
00:31:29.660
even illegally. And there were a lot of people, especially people like Matt Wall. She blew the
00:31:34.560
whistle on those things. We have Vanessa Savage, uh, Dr. Ethan Heim, who did the same thing down
00:31:41.060
in Houston, who blew the whistle on all of this happening. And that really is what marked the
00:31:47.640
shift back saying, okay, you know what? We were sympathetic. A lot of people were sympathetic to
00:31:53.640
the argument that you've got two people who love each other. We don't agree with their relationship,
00:31:59.100
but they want to visit each other in the hospital. They want some of the same rights. Okay. I'm not
00:32:03.360
saying Christians should have been sympathetic to the redefinition of marriage, but that was a lot
0.66
00:32:08.120
of people were able to comprehend that, but it went too far too fast. So over the last several
00:32:14.460
years, conservatives have pushed back. Christians have pushed back and really have had success in
0.98
00:32:20.220
pushing back against LGBTQ activism and the broader culture wars. You can actually see that
0.72
00:32:25.500
shift showing up in public opinion, in state laws, in corporate behavior, and even major
00:32:31.480
institution. So we'll get into that in just a second. Let me take a quick pause and tell you
00:32:35.420
about our next sponsor and that is Shopify. So if you've ever had an idea for a business or you're
00:32:40.280
a creator, you're an artist and you want to sell your stuff, but you're like, you're not a tech
00:32:44.780
person. You don't know how to set up an e-commerce site, or maybe you don't have the time or
00:32:48.880
the capacity. And so it just kind of paralyzes you. Let Shopify help. They know how to build a
00:32:55.520
store. They know how to take payments. They know how to find customers. They know how to handle
0.55
00:32:59.700
shipping and all of that. And that is why Shopify has become the commerce platform behind millions
00:33:04.520
of businesses around the world. Shopify gives you hundreds of ready to use templates so you can
00:33:08.380
build a beautiful online store that fits your brand. They've got powerful AI tools that help
00:33:12.900
write product descriptions, create page headlines, even improve product photos. Plus you can run
00:33:17.880
email and social campaigns to reach customers wherever they're scrolling. They really do make
00:33:22.240
it so easy. That's how we sell relatable merch as well. It's time to turn those what ifs into
00:33:27.020
with Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com slash Allie. That's
00:33:33.260
shopify.com slash Allie. So before 2015, the majority of people were actually against
00:33:44.760
homosexuality. They were against what is called gay marriage. And the reason why I say so-called
00:33:50.140
gay marriage or quote unquote gay marriage is because marriage is defined and instituted by
00:33:54.000
God. You can't redefine it as something other than what God calls it. And so that's why I just
00:33:58.760
have a hard time, uh, with that language. Cause it seems like validating something that God doesn't
00:34:04.760
actually call marriage, but it's crazy to think that only 11 to 12 years ago that people, most
00:34:12.700
people in the country were like, yeah, not on board with that. But after 2015 things changed.
00:34:17.280
So actually the law and Supreme court decisions, they're not necessarily downstream from culture,
00:34:22.860
like what the culture thinks about things can sometimes be downstream from the law and Supreme
00:34:27.400
Court decisions. But Gallup polling recently showed for the first time in decades that, uh,
00:34:34.260
the support for gay marriage peaked in 2022, uh, 71%. And now it's dipped slightly to around 68%.
00:34:43.200
So not a huge dip. I'm not saying, oh my gosh, the support is absolutely crumbling,
00:34:47.960
but the fact that it's dipped at all for the first time in decades, I do think is notable.
00:34:54.340
Republican support for same-sex marriage is now at its lowest point since Gallup started tracking
00:35:00.320
the issue nearly three decades ago. So as low as it was 30 years ago, when it comes to trans issues,
00:35:07.760
the movement in public opinion has been much more pronounced. So this is the one that has made
1.00
00:35:12.300
people just turn around and say, wait, how did we get here? Pew research found that a majority of
00:35:17.120
Americans, about 56% now support banning gender transition, so-called procedures for minors,
00:35:23.780
which is a 10-point increase since 2022. That's great. We need it to be way higher. Those are
1.00
00:35:30.960
rookie numbers. 56%. It's got to be 106%, obviously, but I'm surprised that it's not like
00:35:38.980
90%, honestly. I think that if most of the public knew what this entails and really thought about
00:35:46.140
it. Most of these issues, a lot of people just don't know about, they don't think about.
00:35:49.660
I think if they really knew what was going on, but 10% jump since 2022, since peak woke,
00:35:55.340
that's great. Let's keep going. What's especially significant is that support for these restrictions
00:36:00.080
has also risen among Democrats. Even among Democrats, support for limiting these procedures
00:36:05.640
for minors has increased noticeably in just a few years. Same thing with so-called trans athletes.
0.95
00:36:11.820
Pew found that 66% of Americans favor requiring trans athletes to compete based on birth sex with
00:36:18.720
similar majorities on bathrooms and facilities. It's interesting that even more Americans
00:36:22.700
want that fairness in sports than they want to ban these, uh, procedures. And this is not just
00:36:28.300
limited to conservatives support for these positions has grown across party lines. And
00:36:34.200
then we see Republicans really taking a stand. Whereas I don't know that a few years ago,
00:36:38.320
Republicans would have been brave enough to say this, to come right out and say, look,
00:36:42.300
we're not celebrating pride month. We are celebrating the family. Tennessee governor
00:36:47.100
Bill Lee has signed a resolution declaring June nuclear family month as an alternative to the
00:36:52.480
usual pride month. So the resolution reads like this, the nuclear family consisting of one husband,
00:36:58.820
one wife, and any biological adopted or foster children is God's design for familial structure
0.50
00:37:04.640
and has been the bedrock of society since the creation of the world. I love that. That's from
00:37:09.600
Tennessee House of Representatives. Whereas the nuclear family is under attack in our beloved
00:37:14.180
state and nation, and it is our responsibility to uplift, protect, and support values that help
00:37:20.600
Tennessee prosper. That's amazing. So if you're in Tennessee, celebrate nuclear family month,
00:37:27.740
celebrate the family that God created that he calls good. Nearly half the states in the country
00:37:32.180
have now passed laws banning health care providers from giving minors puberty blockers,
00:37:36.100
gastric hormones, or gender mutilating surgeries. In 2025 alone, several states expanded or
00:37:41.820
strengthened those laws, some even imposing penalties on medical providers who perform
00:37:46.460
the procedures. On top of this, the Trump administration's January 2025 executive orders
00:37:51.400
explicitly have barred federal funding promotion or support for child so-called transitions.
00:37:57.860
Nearly 30 states now require school sports participation to be based on your sex.
00:38:03.740
Last month, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton reached a groundbreaking settlement with Texas
00:38:08.560
Children's Hospital that requires the facility to establish the nation's first dedicated
00:38:14.880
You'll remember Vanessa Sivage, our Share the Arrows award winner at Share the Arrows
00:38:21.900
She was part of the whistle blowing that happened there.
0.94
00:38:24.980
the Texas Children's, even after those procedures were banned, they were still giving cross-sex
0.62
00:38:29.380
hormones and puberty blockers to minors who were confused about their gender. And so Attorney
00:38:35.360
General Kim Paxton went after them and said, as a part of the settlement, okay, now you have to
00:38:40.000
have a clinic that helps those who are de-transitioning. I mean, praise God, that's
1.00
00:38:44.120
amazing. It also orders the hospital to pay $10 million for improperly billing Texas Medicaid for
00:38:50.060
prohibited and illegal gender transition procedures, including the use of false diagnosis
00:38:54.920
codes. So you'll remember, good job, Vanessa. That is something that she blew the whistle on
00:39:00.940
and talked about on this show. And gosh, I just think about all of this. And I think about our
00:39:05.540
phrase, another alliteration that we have used so much for so many years, politics matter because
00:39:09.700
policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people and people
00:39:14.380
matter. Why should Christians engage in the culture war? Because it does something
0.66
00:39:18.760
because we are to pursue justice. I hear Micah 6, 8 used so much by so-called progressive
00:39:24.140
Christians seek justice, love mercy. This is seeking justice and loving mercy. Okay. Like
00:39:29.340
progressives don't have a monopoly on that verse. We define justice and mercy as God defines it,
00:39:33.820
not as the world defines it. This is seeking justice and mercy on behalf of these kids
00:39:38.300
who are being victimized by prophet-hungry doctors and therapists, and in some cases,
00:39:44.380
well-meaning or lunatic evil parents who are pushing them into these irreversible procedures
00:39:51.340
and causing all kinds of confusion. This is why Christians speak up. This is why you're brave in
00:39:57.240
the workplace. This is why it is worth sometimes being the only person or the first person to say,
00:40:03.440
know this is wrong. One, because it obeys God and it glorifies God, but also you don't know what God
00:40:08.680
can do through the mostly unseen and unsung acts of obedience by Christians. This is how he works.
0.98
00:40:15.200
Praise God for that. And sometimes it takes a long time. Like with the overturning of Roe v. Wade,
00:40:20.000
it took 50 years of Christians pushing back against that. The corporate world, we see similar
0.91
00:40:24.800
stuff. The Bud Light partnership with Dylan Mulvaney triggered a sustained boycott. They
00:40:30.380
completely reversed. They really tried to get those blue collar Southern people back. Target
0.95
00:40:36.300
scaled back visible pride displays and DEI initiatives after the 2023 backlash. Like I told
00:40:41.800
you, Southern California, June last year, I saw no pride stuff in Target. If you go online, you still
00:40:47.780
see pride stuff, but it's way toned down. No packing, underwear, and all of that crazy stuff.
00:40:53.660
If you type in pride like kids clothes on Target, nothing comes up. They're being extremely careful.
00:41:00.380
they're dialing it down a lot they're not merely as extreme as michael's it's going to be michelle's
00:41:07.640
before we know it um so target at least understands the economics at play here they understand
00:41:15.840
who their consumers are they're not completely going back on it but they are they have dialed
00:41:23.520
it back because of you because of me i'm not saying me in particular but because of people
00:41:27.960
like us saying no no i can i can get stuff elsewhere no i still wish i still wish that
0.67
00:41:36.360
chip and jojo had been like yeah you're you're promoting the genital mutilation of children to
00:41:43.280
people and we don't want to be a part of that now that would have made a really major statement
00:41:47.820
unfortunately that has not happened yet tractor supply cracker barrel all kinds of crazy stuff
00:41:54.600
they've kind of dialed it back and done an about face a lot more cautious according to gravity
00:42:01.240
research as of last june about two and five corporations were decreasing recognition of
00:42:05.220
pride month due to reputational risks wow wow that's crazy now we also see that there's a big
00:42:14.800
push among conservatives the renewed push that i would say to overturn obergefell namely by katie
00:42:21.440
Faust, founder of Them Before Us. She was a speaker chair of the Arrows last year, and she
00:42:25.700
has been on the show several times. She's just so clear and so courageous. For decades, it seemed
00:42:32.540
like we would never overturn Roe v. Wade. That happened because of lawmakers and activists and
00:42:37.820
pregnancy centers and podcasters and all kinds of people working together to push for what is good
00:42:43.600
legally for children inside the womb. And now we have Katie Faust, who has been outspoken about
00:42:49.560
wanting to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges. She has argued that the decision has hurt children by
00:42:54.880
separating them from their right to have both a mother and a father. She was on a pro-LGBTQ
00:43:01.820
podcast recently making her case up for. We actually enshrined a version of the family
00:43:07.500
that excludes a child's mother or father. And we said it is now unconstitutional to elevate
00:43:13.080
the one family form where they do not have to lose their mother or father to be in it.
00:43:16.380
There's a difference between permitting and promoting, and Obergefell promoted a form
00:43:21.960
of family that excludes one or both natural parents of a child.
00:43:31.680
She talked a lot about this in her talk last year for Share the Arrows, and she's just
00:43:38.360
And she is leading this coalition now, this project called Greater Than, and it's based
00:43:44.320
on the idea that children's needs and rights are greater than adult wants, feelings, or political
00:43:50.940
goals. She talks a lot about IVF and surrogacy and sperm and egg selling. And this all centers for
00:43:57.220
her on the rights and the wellbeing of a child. Her campaign originally had the support of 47
00:44:02.920
conservative and Christian organizations working together to challenge same-sex marriage legally
00:44:07.520
and culturally. This is according to the Seattle times. It now has a hundred. According to the
00:44:13.980
Public Religion Research Institute, same-sex marriage support among young Americans 18 through
00:44:18.900
29 has seen a gradual decline since 2018. 79% of young Americans supported this right to 71%
00:44:25.880
today. So we'll see. It's not really about public opinion as much as what is constitutional. And of
00:44:31.900
course, for the Christian, what is right? Kids do have a rights to a mom and dad. And it's different
00:44:38.740
in an adoption situation versus a surrogacy situation.
00:44:52.760
but surrogacy in general creates that broken situation
00:44:59.660
and then adoption redeems an already broken situation.
00:45:03.120
But whether it's adoption or surrogacy or whatever,
00:45:05.560
However, all of those children have a right to a mom and dad, if not their own mom and
00:45:13.780
Husbands and wives, moms and dads are not interchangeable.
00:45:16.540
God made us and said that is very good and God knows best.
00:45:22.740
I want to get to some voicemails that you guys sent me.
00:45:25.380
One of them actually about IVF and something that came up during your Bible study.
00:45:29.480
and then another one about having a child with autism
00:45:38.280
and tell you about our next sponsor for the day
00:45:43.680
This is yet another way that we can honor life,
00:45:56.300
all kinds of free resources to pregnant moms in need.
00:45:59.480
they offer free sonograms. The cost of a free sonogram is $28 and they use our donations to be
00:46:05.520
able to give those free sonograms. So if you can donate $28, you cover the cost of a life-saving
00:46:10.440
ultrasound so that woman can see that that baby inside her room is a true life. And if you can
00:46:15.940
donate more than that, then you can cover the cost of even more. Maybe you could only donate $2,
00:46:20.400
but every little bit counts. This audience loves life and loves protecting these baby lives. So
00:46:25.820
be a part of this. Go to preborn.com slash Allie. Make your donation today. That's preborn.com slash
1.00
00:46:31.600
Allie. All right, let's play voicemail one. Hi. So my church small group this past week
00:46:45.080
brought up IVF. And is it okay? Most of the people in the group had no idea what IVF was.
00:46:58.600
I was the only one that was probably the most equipped to talk about IVF
00:47:06.200
I kind of gave my spiel of beliefs and that we should not agree with IVF.
00:47:13.400
But I think some of the other ladies' general consensus came down to,
1.00
00:47:18.700
well, we're going to pass these eggs anyway through periods and whatnot.
1.00
00:47:23.700
So what does it matter if we take some of them and give them a chance at life?
00:47:28.360
And then another lady figured, you know, in the end, it's God who makes the call anyway, whether the embryo grows or not.
00:47:36.580
So it's really, we can do what we want with embryos, but it's God who gives life.
00:47:43.780
And I really didn't know what to say after that.
00:47:45.960
So I would just like some more clarification on your take on IVF.
00:47:50.200
well thank you so much that's such a great question that so many people have curiosities
00:47:57.620
about and i did too a few years ago before i started researching it and good for you for
00:48:02.920
saying something because it can be really hard to be the only one in a room especially about a
00:48:06.820
sensitive topic like that and say actually i've got a different perspective so this is what i
00:48:12.000
would say is that god does give life but that does not justify all means by which we create life
00:48:18.180
God gives the life that is conceived outside of marriage too, and he also gives the life
00:48:22.880
that is conceived through rape, but that does not mean that he condones sexual promiscuity
00:48:28.040
So it's not a good argument to say, well, if the life comes about, the means of conception
00:48:34.100
God brings good things out of bad choices all the time, but that doesn't make those
00:48:39.500
There is also, I think, in this, in what some of these ladies were saying, just a huge
0.98
00:48:46.760
An unfertilized egg, which dies during your menstrual cycle, is not life.
00:48:51.600
That egg only becomes life when it is fertilized by sperm.
00:48:54.500
And at the moment of fertilization, that is a unique human life.
00:48:57.660
After that moment, everything we do with that unique human life matters because he or she
00:49:05.140
Trying to say that that human life, as some people do, is not really life yet, or that
00:49:11.280
they're not an image bearer of God, or they don't have a soul yet, that just gets into
00:49:14.640
really murky territory that really makes us sound like the pro-abortion people, that while not all
00:49:19.360
human life is a person, not all human life really matters. The safest and most biblical perspective
00:49:24.300
is at the moment that human life is created at fertilization, that little human being matters
00:49:30.800
and how we treat them matters. And that's why I'm against IVF, because it is an ends justify the
00:49:36.080
means approach to having kids. And it risks mistreating image bearers of God. The typical,
00:49:45.000
If this was not, if not everything I say here was your IVF process, you don't have to, you
00:49:50.400
don't have to tell me because I know that there are some exceptions to this, but let
00:49:53.800
me just tell you the vast, vast majority of in vitro fertilization processes go like
00:50:00.260
They involve pumping a woman's body with synthetic hormones, which have the potential, by the
0.99
00:50:06.580
Um, this induces ovulation. Then several eggs are harvested. Usually then thereafter,
00:50:14.760
there is porn induced masturbation from the father that is then used to fertilize the eggs
0.97
00:50:19.220
in the lab, creating six or more embryos. Um, many of which are discarded without even consulting
0.97
00:50:25.820
the parents because some embryos will have genetic anomalies like down syndrome. Then you freeze the
00:50:31.780
remaining embryos, then you transfer the gender of the embryo that is chosen by the parents.
0.73
00:50:37.580
They can say, I want a girl first. I want a boy first. And so on and so on until the parents
00:50:42.960
have decided that they're done. And then often, often you have remaining embryos because there
00:50:48.500
are almost always remaining embryos. They're frozen indefinitely because the parents can't
00:50:53.800
bear to do anything else or they're thawed until they die. Or in better circumstances,
00:50:58.880
they might be adopted, maybe sometimes by friends in very rare circumstances, often by strangers.
00:51:05.360
There are well over a million frozen embryos in freezers right now across the country. And these
00:51:10.780
fertility clinics are raking in the dollars from these storage fees because the parents maybe
1.00
00:51:16.400
didn't want more than two, or the parents wanted a different gender than the ones left over. Paris
1.00
00:51:21.400
Hilton had created a dozen boys. She wanted a girl. So she needed to create more and use a surrogate
1.00
00:51:26.560
to carry that baby. There's so many different layers to this, or maybe those babies are in a
0.98
00:51:32.940
freezer because the parents died or they got divorced, or maybe the mother had to have a
00:51:36.300
hysterectomy and she can't have anymore. And in a lot of these cases, these were Christian parents
00:51:41.940
who went in not wanting to do away with any life and wanting to just have babies. And they did not
0.84
00:51:49.440
realize, and we're not told from the beginning, all of the consequences that can come with IVF.
00:51:53.580
And these little embryos inside the womb, they're people. And even when parents with the best
00:52:00.480
intentions start IVF, they can unintentionally put these little people, these embryos at risk.
00:52:08.680
Inducing the creation of life, knowing these moral risks exist is very different than the
00:52:15.140
natural but tragic process of a miscarriage because your intention there, your knowledge
00:52:20.260
there is obviously to create life and to carry the life and obviously natural death happens,
00:52:25.120
but IVF creates a lot more risk. Anytime you take sex outside or procreation outside of sex,
00:52:33.180
you are going to have some moral and ethical risk there. So I would never encourage IVF,
00:52:40.600
no matter what. I know that there are some rare cases where you're working with a Christian doctor
1.00
00:52:45.160
and they promise never to do away with any embryos. I'm just telling you in every circumstance
0.86
00:52:50.880
of IVF, things happen that you didn't foresee, that you didn't intend. And you're left in this
00:52:55.760
impossible situation that I have talked many of you through that, oh my gosh, I'm a Christian.
00:53:00.100
I see that what I did was really difficult, but I have these two beautiful kids and I have six
00:53:04.160
embryos left. I can't have any more kids than I don't know what to do. It's tough. And I wouldn't
00:53:09.700
wish that upon anyone. Your children through IVF are made in God's image, just as valuable as
00:53:15.440
anyone else. However, I would never, ever, ever encourage a couple to go through IVF because of
0.76
00:53:21.480
the risk to them, because of the risk first and foremost to the child. All right, let me get to
00:53:26.080
this, um, to this second great question in just a second. Let me pause and tell you about our last
00:53:30.560
sponsor first, and that is NetSuite. So every business right now is asking the same question.
00:53:35.460
what do you do about AI? Is this going to be bad? Is this going to be good? Is there a way
00:53:39.760
that we can use AI to make things work for us, to make things better? Honestly,
00:53:43.980
the possibilities are endless and guessing is just too risky. And that's why you need
00:53:48.820
a need NetSuite by Oracle. NetSuite is the number one AI cloud ERP trusted by over 43,000 businesses.
00:53:56.200
It's a unified suite that brings your financials, your inventory, commerce, HR, and CRM into a single
00:54:00.940
source of truth. That connected data is what makes your AI smarter. So it doesn't just guess,
00:54:05.000
it knows it can automate routine tasks. It could deliver actionable insights. It helps you cut
00:54:10.100
costs and make fast AI power decisions with confidence. You've got total flexibility.
00:54:15.060
I think this is a really good use of AI. So you can do what only you can do as a human and be
00:54:19.800
creative and grow your business. And this automates the tasks to make all of that easier.
00:54:25.720
If your revenues are at least in the seven figures, get their free business guide,
00:54:29.680
demystifyingai at netsuite.com slash Allie. That guide is free to you at netsuite.com slash Allie.
00:54:43.180
All right, let's listen to our final voicemail, voicemail two.
00:54:47.400
Hi, Allie. I just had a question or maybe I'm just looking for encouragement. I feel like I
00:54:54.920
kind of already know the answer um just from like reading my bible and everything but I don't know
00:55:01.820
um so I have an old my oldest son he has special needs he has autism um he's only three so I don't
00:55:09.840
really know what direction he's going um he's not necessarily severe but it's just hard to say
00:55:17.380
And then I have a second son who, typical, he's only 16 months, but that seems to be the direction he's going.
00:55:26.480
And I really, really want another baby, but I'm just scared and I'm trying not to live in fear.
00:55:34.420
Like I said, I feel like I already know the answer.
00:55:36.520
Like, I should just do it, but maybe I'm just looking for that encouragement.
00:55:41.360
I'm scared to take the attention away from my oldest because we work with him a lot.
00:55:46.060
We take him to therapy a lot, and I'm already struggling to balance my typical son and my special needs son, but I want to grow my family, and I'm scared I'm going to be 60 one day and wish I had that third baby, but third, fourth, so on, but I don't know.
00:56:04.580
I just wanted to call and ask you because I love when you're talking about family and how we should keep having babies, but this always is my, like, exception to the role in my mind, but I feel like it's not biblical.
00:56:25.300
Well, I know this was probably a hard question to ask because there's just a lot of different vulnerable layers there.
00:56:33.800
I'm not going to be the person that's going to say you should always keep having children no
00:56:40.180
matter what. I think the rule is yes, that God wants us when we can to have children.
00:56:47.580
I think adoption is beautiful. I think fostering is beautiful. I think having biological kids is
00:56:52.280
beautiful. We are told to be fruitful and multiply. And yes, I do think that there are situations in
00:56:58.460
which we employ wisdom and say, not right now. And I think that there are moral ways to try to
00:57:06.760
stop pregnancy or to prevent pregnancy from happening against all hormonal contraception
00:57:12.880
because it can eliminate the life of a child who has already been fertilized, but hasn't been
00:57:18.360
implanted yet. So I would never recommend that, but there are much more natural and moral means
00:57:23.320
to actually prevent fertilization. I know that's not what you're asking. I just wanted to
00:57:27.700
say that there in case anyone is concerned that I would be promoting hormonal birth control,
00:57:32.180
but I don't think that Christians are bound to get pregnant every single year. I don't think
00:57:39.940
that Christians have the obligation to have a dozen kids no matter what. I just want to encourage you
00:57:46.540
that you are basically postpartum right now. Okay. 16 months, maybe it seems like a long time
00:57:51.960
ago to you. I've got three kids. It's not a long time ago. You don't have to make this decision
00:57:56.900
right now. You have a lot that is in front of you that is on your plate. You are taking care of a
00:58:01.640
son who right now requires probably a lot of your mental and physical energy. I mean, a three-year-old
00:58:08.040
boy anyway requires a lot of physical and mental energy. Then you've got a toddler. Those are two
00:58:13.960
very energy requiring ages, especially when it comes to boys. Don't put so much pressure on
00:58:23.740
yourself right now to make the decision in this moment. You know, there were times definitely
00:58:30.660
when I was in the midst of postpartum, when I was recovering from C-sections, when I was
00:58:34.700
recovering from my V-back that I was like, you know, I've talked about this before. I just can't
00:58:38.600
do it. I'm just scared of birth. I'm scared of what it'll, um, what I'll have to go through and
00:58:43.540
all of that. I think that those were legitimate fears. I think it was okay for me to think that
00:58:47.880
and to worry about that. But as time goes on, your perspective changes, your season changes,
00:58:53.220
what your kids need changes, you might feel differently in a year. So that's what I'll say.
00:58:59.480
I will say that you don't have to make that decision right now. And I would be talking to
00:59:05.800
godly mentors in your life. I'd obviously be praying. I'd obviously be talking with your
00:59:10.340
husband about this. And I wouldn't make the decision based on, oh my goodness, is God going
00:59:17.060
to take care of my family? Oh my goodness, is God going to take care of my son? You know that he's
00:59:21.460
going to take care of you no matter what, but I would simply assess where you are and what is
00:59:28.020
required of you in the moment. And I know that's not a hard and fast answer, but I just can't tell
00:59:33.580
you not knowing every single facet of your situation and exactly what it looks like with
00:59:37.480
your son. Yes, you should try to have a child right now. No, you should wait two years. I would
00:59:43.980
say, give yourself, give yourself a little bit of grace and a little bit of time. I mean, two kids
00:59:50.440
in two years. That's a lot. That's a lot. You're going through a lot right now. And I think you
00:59:55.620
might feel differently in a few months or a few years. And I think God will be faithful to give
01:00:01.620
you the conviction and give you the peace that you need. So just don't let this rob your contentment
01:00:07.000
with the moment that you're in right now. Do the next right thing in faith with excellence and
01:00:12.040
for the glory of God. That's really all you can do. That's all you can do. All right. I hope that
01:00:18.560
was helpful. And it's encouraging to me that you're thinking through it this way. You just
01:00:22.180
want to glorify God and love your kids. And that's what all of us, that's what all of us
01:00:25.920
want to do. Sometimes it's hard to know exactly what that looks like, but it sounds to me like
01:00:30.540
you're doing a really good job. So, um, thank you so much for sending in your voicemail. Don't
01:00:35.580
forget to send in your voicemails. I don't have the number in front of me, but we will post it
01:00:41.260
on Instagram and we can put it in the description of this episode too. Um, so that you can call
01:00:46.540
and you can ask your questions. You can ask for advice or ask for clarity on something. I'll do
01:00:50.580
my best to answer it. All right. We will be back here on Wednesday. We'll be talking about Talarico.
01:00:55.460
We'll be talking about Ken Paxton, and you'll also get to meet another member of my family
01:01:00.180
that you haven't met yet. All right. We'll see you guys then.