Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - June 17, 2026


Ep 1361 | SuperNanny Calls Out Lazy Parents: “You’re Disabling Your Kids!”


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00:00:00.000 A Christian adoption agency has completely changed its stance on LGBT parenting and it's 1.00
00:00:07.320 actually really good news. Also, the super nanny has some hard truth for parents that 1.00
00:00:12.520 every mom and dad needs to hear. And Professor Robert George has dubbed this month, not Pride
00:00:18.600 Month, but Fidelity Month. And he's here today later to tell us what all of that is about.
00:00:23.380 We've got all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable. It's brought to you by our friends
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00:00:51.740 I hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
00:00:55.700 Well, we got to see our little baby yesterday at our appointment.
00:01:01.460 We had the big sonogram, what's called the anatomy scan, where you really go through
00:01:06.960 and you make sure that everything is looking good.
00:01:09.180 And thank the Lord, everything is looking good.
00:01:11.760 Little baby is growing well.
00:01:13.420 I have not announced to you gender yet, but I posted a little picture of the sonogram
00:01:18.560 on Instagram. And all of my messages, are you guys guessing what the gender is? And I will tell
00:01:25.820 you, I won't tell you yet what he or she is, but I will tell you every single message got it right,
00:01:32.700 except for one, which is stunning. It's just a profile of this sweet little baby. But I don't
00:01:40.120 know. I guess y'all have some kind of insight intuition that I don't think that I would have
00:01:45.580 if I were looking at someone's sonogram, but gosh, I just get emotional every time at that sonogram
00:01:52.120 because the change is so remarkable from that first eight week sonogram when they just look
00:02:00.260 like a little jelly bean, of course, fully human, fully baby made in God's image, but
00:02:04.660 they don't look like a fully grown baby because you can't see the feet and the hands. It's just
00:02:10.620 like this little gummy bear with this strong beating heart, which is a miracle in and of
00:02:15.220 itself. And then if you don't get a sonogram until your 20-week appointment, which is typical,
00:02:23.020 that change is just absolutely incredible from the little gummy bear baby to this,
00:02:29.360 what looks like a fully grown baby. I mean, kicking, flipping. We saw the baby
00:02:34.640 suck their thumb yesterday, which is just incredible. Still so tiny, but so mobile and
00:02:43.180 just really fun. And there's something about it that makes me spontaneously burst into tears.
00:02:50.100 Life is just incredible. And I really do believe that women seeing their baby through ultrasounds 0.98
00:02:57.340 is so, it's not only life affirming, but you feel an even greater bond with that baby than you did
00:03:04.220 before. And I've also just had the honor this pregnancy of being able to feel the baby kick
00:03:09.860 so much earlier than I have in past pregnancies, which is typical, you know, the more pregnancies
00:03:15.460 you have, and this is my fourth pregnancy and that's been super fun, but I'm like,
00:03:19.820 okay, we got a long, we got a long way to go. These kicks are only going to get stronger and
00:03:24.640 stronger, but I really am just so thankful for this incredible blessing and to add another
00:03:30.360 little one to our family. Just thank you for all of your kind words and your support and your
00:03:34.580 prayers for our family, for my husband and me and our kids and this little baby. It really does mean
00:03:40.120 so much. Relatable is a family. It's a community. When I see you guys in person, it's immediately
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00:04:35.420 It's October 11th. Is it October 11th, y'all? It's not. It's never October 11th. Why can't I
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00:05:27.940 thing, one more thing before we get into our good news. We've got some good news today,
00:05:33.000 encouraging news when it comes to the pride month theme. Typically, we're not talking about good 0.97
00:05:38.340 news. We're talking about really demoralizing and sad stuff, but stuff that we need to lay
00:05:41.720 eyes on and understand as Christians who are fighting the spiritual battle. But today we've
00:05:46.900 got some good news of some really good wins. Praise God for that. But before we get into that,
00:05:51.920 I just want to tease something for you that this Friday, I've got an interview coming out that is
00:05:56.860 unlike any interview I've ever done before. The biggest interview in relatable history we have
00:06:01.900 been doing, um, we've been doing relatable since March of 2018. And so gosh, eight plus years of
00:06:10.640 doing relatable. And we've had some really big interviews over the years and some really awesome
00:06:15.960 conversations with people that maybe you'd previously never heard of, and every single
00:06:20.260 one is a privilege. But this is unique. Unlike anyone we've ever done, the biggest interview
00:06:25.820 that I have ever dropped on Relatable, we are planning to put out on Friday morning.
00:06:31.140 So stay tuned for that. I'll announce it on Instagram and all that good stuff. If you
00:06:34.660 have a guess for who it is, you can comment, you can message, and all of that good stuff.
00:06:40.060 We'll see who gets it right. All right, let's get into some happy stuff. Now, it's sad that
00:06:45.920 this even has to be a debate, but it is good to see a Christian institution have some courage.
00:06:51.380 So there is a Christian adoption agency, Bethany Christian Services, which is the largest Protestant
00:06:56.600 adoption and foster care agency in the U.S. that has announced that its board of directors has
00:07:02.600 voted to clarify and strengthen the organization's Christian faith commitments and beliefs. And
00:07:07.500 within that is included their policy that they will no longer allow LGBTQ parents to adopt
00:07:15.140 and foster children in their care. Now, this is a change for Bethany Christian, because as we'll
00:07:23.460 get into a few years ago, it seemed like they had softened on this. But according to their most
00:07:29.140 recent annual report, they have served 25,825 children and families through adoption, foster
00:07:35.260 care, and other services. They have served over 1 million children and families over the past 80
00:07:40.980 years. Beginning in June, 2027, Bethany will only allow fostering and adoption by families whose
00:07:47.580 Christian faith and beliefs align with its statement of faith and belief. So it's not
00:07:52.080 only about homosexuality. It's not only about gender and the belief about these, what you might
00:07:58.200 call social issues. It's really a belief about all biblical issues, all core tenets of the Christian
00:08:04.800 faith. The CEO, Keith Curitan said the decision quote is really about three things. It's about
00:08:10.920 clarity. It's about conviction. It's about faith and belief. Yes. And amen. Keith Curitan. Good
00:08:17.280 job. I love when people say things like we need clarity because we do. And that is a huge reason
00:08:23.680 why God gave us his word so that we don't have to be confused about things like gender and sexuality
00:08:28.740 and family. It was so important to him that he got clarified that in the first chapter of the
00:08:33.000 first book of the Bible, you don't even have to read 30 verses before we get the answer to that.
00:08:37.160 Genesis 127, the CEO added that when he joined the organization in 2023, he sensed that we were
00:08:44.480 really struggling with our identity. Good job, Mr. Curitan. The move comes after Bethany faced
00:08:51.960 criticism in 2021. We talked about it at the time. This is before Curitan arrived on the scene
00:08:57.140 for allowing LGBT couples to foster and adopt through the agency.
00:09:02.920 Curitin stressed that families who feel they cannot align with the new framework
00:09:06.360 will be aided through a transition process to another child placement agency
00:09:10.720 with a goal of minimizing disruptions for children
00:09:13.800 because that is the number one focus.
00:09:18.040 And it is so rare for institutions to go this direction
00:09:21.920 because progressivism by nature progresses.
00:09:24.980 It is very aggressive.
00:09:26.500 it wants to take as much ground as possible it is very imperialistic in that way especially when it
00:09:33.160 comes to christian institutions which are like the last bastion of biblical truth of moral truth of
00:09:38.400 biological truth the last bastions of the protection of children in progressivism like
00:09:44.760 satan has its sights set on those kinds of institutions and its sights set on children
00:09:50.800 specifically. And typically once you have an organization that opens up to that possibility
00:09:58.000 in the name of being inclusive and the name of being loving, it is very hard to go backwards.
00:10:03.720 Once you have that initiative, you have that focus group, you have that one employee, you have that
00:10:08.160 one manager that is, um, making problems in the name of expanding their definition of what marriage
00:10:17.000 should look like, et cetera. It's just so hard. It's so hard for leadership to then turn it
00:10:23.640 around. You have to have a lot of courage and a lot of resolve to do that. So good on this CEO
00:10:29.140 for coming in and saying, what does the Bible say? We're not nicer than God. We're not more
00:10:34.200 loving than God. If we're Christian, then we should act like it. That's my interpretation
00:10:38.740 of what he is saying. And I'm thankful for that. So we'll get into more of what this new statement
00:10:43.120 of faith is. I think it's important because if you're leading an organization and you want to
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00:12:19.800 The 2027 Statement of Faith begins with an affirmation of the Apostles' Creed.
00:12:25.640 Bethany Christian Services is united in our belief and the core tenets of our faith
00:12:30.400 as outlined in the Apostles' Creed. It affirms the authority of Scripture,
00:12:35.680 the biblical mandate to care for the vulnerable, and a declaration that God creates human beings
00:12:40.740 in his image as male and female and determined by sex. So male and female determined by sex.
00:12:48.440 Again, we see that in the first chapter of the first book of the Bible, Genesis 127. That's not
00:12:53.900 an allegory. That's not a metaphor. We see the two options for what you can be as human made in God's
00:13:00.260 image, and that is either male or female. They also have a statement on the sanctity of life.
00:13:06.100 And so they say this, we believe that all human life is sacred from conception to natural death.
00:13:11.080 We are committed to offering life-affirming options to expectant parents, walking alongside
00:13:15.800 them with compassion, support, and hope. And then on sex, we believe every person is created in the
00:13:22.520 image of God and therefore possesses inherent dignity, worth, and purpose. We further believe
00:13:27.420 God creates human beings in his image as male and female as determined by biological sex. Now
00:13:34.120 they use the term biological sex and they're probably just trying to be as clear as possible
00:13:40.140 there. I don't say the term biological sex because there is no other kind of sex except for biological
00:13:46.400 sex. To me, it's just repetitive. It's almost kind of implying that there could be another sex or
00:13:52.760 people will say, uh, biological gender or biological male or biological female. Well,
00:13:57.280 there's no other kind of male or female except for the biological kind. So I'm not indicting
00:14:02.700 them at all for their choice of words there. I'm just saying in my lexicon and how I say things,
00:14:08.660 because I'm aiming to align my words with reality as much as possible. I just don't want to give
00:14:13.660 like any window of opening for confusion whatsoever. Um, on marriage between a man and
00:14:19.420 woman. Bethany Christian Trust says, we affirm the biblical design of marriage as a covenant
00:14:24.940 between one man and one woman established by God to reflect his love and faithfulness. What do we
00:14:31.160 always say? The definition of marriage between one man and one woman is rooted in creation.
00:14:36.860 Genesis 127 repeated throughout scripture, like honor your father and mother, Exodus 2012. It is
00:14:44.340 reiterated by Jesus himself, Matthew 19, four through five. Have you not heard that in the
00:14:50.940 beginning he made us male and female? It is representative of Christ in the church. That's
00:14:56.880 Ephesians five. And it is reflective of the gospel. And that's the point that I see in here,
00:15:02.620 that fifth R that we've been saying since probably 2019, it reflects his love and faithfulness in a
00:15:09.300 way that a union between two men or two women cannot because marriage is a representation of
00:15:17.160 Christ who is described as the groom and his bride, um, or the church who is described as
00:15:22.800 his bride. And so that can only be reflected by one man and one woman. And if we don't get that
00:15:28.580 right, then it is very easy to see how we end up slipping over time on everything else theological,
00:15:37.320 like people who can't affirm Genesis one 27, almost always end up not being able to affirm
00:15:44.460 John 14, six, that Jesus is the way, the truth, the life, that no one comes to the father
00:15:49.220 except through him. And I'm so glad that it seems to me like Bethany Christian trust
00:15:54.840 understands that. And like, how freeing is it that we don't have to be the ones to come up
00:16:00.580 with the definition of marriage or the definition of love or the definition of goodness or the
00:16:05.320 gospel or the marriage between Christ and his church. We don't have to come up with our own
00:16:11.780 newfangled interpretations of that based on our own desires and our sins. Praise the Lord that
00:16:19.660 he has taken that burden off of us and he has put it on himself and he has given us his inspired
00:16:25.480 word. And he just says, follow me, just follow me. So most of the online reaction so far has
00:16:31.660 been positive. You've got Katie Faust, founder of Them Before Us. At the pinnacle of support for
00:16:36.980 gay marriage among conservatives, Bethany Christian started placing kids with LGBT couples. They just 1.00
00:16:42.680 reversed that decision. They will only hire Christians and they will only serve mother, 1.00
00:16:47.480 father, adoptive homes. Vibe shift is having measurable impact. Praise the Lord. Journalist 0.95
00:16:54.340 Megan Basham, praise God. I covered Bethany's decision to compromise with the culture and
00:16:58.420 abandoned biblical standards when I was at World. Since he came to the org, CEO Keith Curitan has
00:17:04.860 been a good King Josiah, so to speak, recommitting Bethany to following the Lord with her whole
00:17:09.960 hearts. God has been merciful to give Bethany back to us. Praise the Lord. She's absolutely
00:17:16.160 right. King Josiah, young King Josiah came in and he tore down all of the altars to the idols.
00:17:22.820 and that is one thing that christians are called to do you know as we talked about
00:17:27.480 a couple weeks ago something that i hadn't really thought about is that when jesus says
00:17:32.220 the gates of hell won't prevail against his church and of course we believe that's a universal body
00:17:37.240 of believers gates are a defense mechanism and so that means that christians are on the offense in
00:17:44.080 the spiritual warfare and that it is satan just holding on as tightly as he can to his kingdom and
00:17:49.820 to his power while it lasts. And Christians are the ones trying to tear down those gates. We are
00:17:56.420 on the offense pushing down those gates. And it's not just about culture wars, y'all. I just want
00:18:01.500 to remind you of that. Politics matters, policy matters, because people matter. Yes, another
00:18:05.760 acronym, or that one's not an acronym, an alliteration that we have been saying for years.
00:18:11.980 But for us, this is not primarily about culture war. It's not primarily about just winning.
00:18:16.600 it is about honoring the Lord, yes, and realizing that his ways are always better,
00:18:22.340 but it's about protecting children. If God is love, 1 John 4, 8, if he created us and he knows
00:18:27.600 what's best and he knows what's best for children, then we are not going to out love him or out care
00:18:34.300 for children by disagreeing with him. The most safety-inducing, protective thing that we can do
00:18:40.280 for children is ensure that they end up with a home, in a home with a mom and a dad. Now,
00:18:44.980 does that guarantee that there will be no mistreatment? Of course not. Of course not.
00:18:50.700 But just as men and women are not interchangeable, we understand that neither are moms and dads,
00:18:56.260 neither are husbands and wives. We bring different things to the table that are necessary for the
00:19:00.900 healthy formation of children. The two sexes that are need to make a baby are also needed to raise 1.00
00:19:06.040 a baby. So praise God. Praise God for this. This is really, really good news. Now, I do want to 1.00
00:19:13.480 look at some numbers when it comes to the so-called vibe shift that Katie Faust was talking
00:19:17.820 about. Public opinion on gay relationships has drastically changed, which again is just stunning. 0.93
00:19:24.220 You don't always or typically ever see things going this direction. According to Gallup,
00:19:30.580 Republican support for same-sex marriage, so-called same-sex marriage, marriage is defined by God as
00:19:36.040 between a man and a woman. We can't change that. So I try to be as exact as possible.
00:19:39.820 Um, it peaked at 55% in 2021 and 2022. It's now at 41%. That's a pretty big drop in just a few
00:19:48.380 years. Y'all pushed it too far. You pushed it too far with the drag queen story hour and chopping
00:19:53.500 off the breasts of minor girls. You pushed it too far. Okay. Permanently sterilizing 10 year old 1.00
00:19:59.320 boys by chemically castrating them via puberty blockers is not quite the same as we just want
00:20:05.100 hospital visitation rights, which was the argument in like 2008. Okay. You pushed it too far. And
00:20:12.000 now people are turning around and they're saying, hang on a second. How do we get here? Okay. I
00:20:18.500 don't think it was just the translates back up tea. And then you just keep on going down the
00:20:24.580 Oh yeah. No, I think it's kind of all of it because when you say a man can become a woman, 0.99
00:20:29.260 it's the same math as a husband can become a wife it's the same exact math trans women or women is
00:20:35.800 the same math as love is love doesn't mean anything if you're not defining those words and i think
00:20:40.480 even if people can articulate that they're seeing that that there's something there's something
00:20:44.440 wrong here maybe we need to back up gallup polling showed approval climbing steadily for decades
00:20:50.320 among americans eventually peaking at about 71 percent in 2022 more recent polling shows the
00:20:55.980 support has dipped to around 68%, not a huge dip, but significant over just a course of four years.
00:21:03.960 The moral acceptance of gay and lesbian relationships is at 62%, which is actually
00:21:07.900 the lowest since 2016. We've got a few more stats when it comes specifically to adoption
00:21:15.500 of children by gay parents. And we'll get to that in just a second. Let me go ahead and pause and
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00:22:40.520 by Regner as children of LGBT parents fare worse than other children on 77 out of 80 social outcome
00:22:48.220 measures. So according to the study, compared with children raised by their married biological
00:22:53.300 parents, children of homosexual parents attain lower levels of education, report less safety 0.76
00:22:58.420 and security within their family of origin, experience greater ongoing negative effects
00:23:03.360 from their family of origin, are more likely to struggle with depression, anxiety, have higher
00:23:10.280 rates of arrest. Of course, we already have lots and lots of studies when it comes to fatherless
00:23:16.320 children, children who are raised typically by one mom, but really just children who are raised
00:23:22.560 without a dad, the insecurity and anxiety that that creates, which can lead to a higher likelihood
00:23:27.960 of struggling with an eating disorder, sexual promiscuity, teen delinquency, poverty, all kinds
00:23:34.640 of instability, there is something inherently stabilizing about a present dad. It doesn't even
00:23:40.660 have to be a perfect dad, but just a present dad, again, does not mean that abuse does not happen
00:23:46.580 within heterosexual marriages. Of course it does, but we are talking statistically and in principle,
00:23:53.080 and we have to, in order to understand, okay, like what is in general, the safest place for a child,
00:24:00.860 which should be a question we all want to answer we have to look at statistics we have to look at
00:24:07.340 the principles a second study also showed poor education outcomes for children of lgbt parents
00:24:12.740 finding they're 35 less likely to progress normally through school children of gay couples
00:24:18.840 also suffer emotional problems at twice the rate of children raised by a mother and father
00:24:23.580 i put a post out about surrogacy as i've been talking about for many years especially surrogacy
00:24:29.800 between two men in which you're purchasing eggs, creating embryos, purchasing the womb of another
00:24:35.800 woman in addition to the egg seller. And then you're taking that baby and purposely raising
00:24:41.380 them motherless from the time that they are taking their first cries and just how awful and dystopian
00:24:46.840 and selfish that is. And the problems that you're creating for that child, I don't even think we
00:24:51.380 fully know. We don't take puppies and kittens away from their parents for the first six to
00:24:56.960 eight weeks of their life. And yet with human infants, we're taking them away from their
00:25:01.580 mothers in the name of love is love in the first few moments of their life. Like we, we know that
00:25:07.880 physiologically in order for their breath, in order for their heart rate to be regulated,
00:25:12.940 that little baby, if at all possible needs to be placed on the chest of his or her mother.
00:25:19.560 Like I've experienced that with my first, I had a C-section and her heart rate and her breath,
00:25:25.660 It just wasn't quite right. And I just begged and begged and begged. And I said, please put that baby
00:25:30.140 on my chest. Like, let me hold her for a second, at least while you wheel us away. And so they did. 0.75
00:25:35.840 And I got to hold her. But then of course the guy came in and he had his, uh, he had his clear
00:25:40.760 bassinet and he was getting ready quickly to put her in the bassinet, take her to the NICU.
00:25:45.640 And I just said, can you just check her one more time? Can you check her breath one more time
00:25:50.360 before you take her. Checked her. Perfect. She needed me. She needed her mom. She needed my 1.00
00:25:56.300 heartbeat. She needed the only home that she ever knew. And you know, it's one thing to take a child
00:26:04.100 away from his or her mom through adoption. That's a hard situation. There is a brokenness there
00:26:10.080 that happens because we don't live in an ideal world, but you didn't intentionally create that
00:26:16.260 child to take him or her away from the mother. You're redeeming a broken situation through
00:26:21.020 adoption. Surrogacy, gay parenting creates the broken situation because you care more about adult 1.00
00:26:27.740 wants than you do child welfare. And so Bethany Christian Trust is saying, no, we care more about 1.00
00:26:33.800 child welfare and we care more about biblical truth than we do adult wants. And if that is
00:26:39.120 the change that we can make just as a church, just as Christians, to be able to say biblical
00:26:46.120 truth and kids needs matter than what adults want. No matter how that adult identifies,
00:26:53.100 then things can change for the better. And we can continue on to carry the legacy that
00:26:57.840 Christians have been carrying for 2000 years to disrupt the child hating societies that we have 0.99
00:27:04.580 lived in for so many millennia and say, no, no, no. Like the child objectification is going to 1.00
00:27:09.920 end now. You're not going to be sacrificing your kids to the pagan gods anymore. We're going to, 0.69
00:27:14.620 we're going to stop that. You're not going to sacrifice your child on the altar of progressivism.
00:27:19.240 No, no, no, no. Not as long as we have a say in it. And so I'm just, I am very encouraged.
00:27:26.460 I'm very encouraged by this. Um, and I'm very encouraged with just the allegiance to not only
00:27:33.460 biblical morality, but reality too. Because science statistics are always catching up with
00:27:39.160 God. They're always catching up with what the Bible says. There was a study a few years ago that
00:27:43.660 people tried to tout saying, oh, actually, look, kids actually fare better or the same with gay
00:27:49.880 parents. We dug into it on this show. It was funded by the Chinese Communist Party. And when
00:27:55.760 you get into the data, it wasn't actually even true. The summary wasn't actually correlated with
00:28:02.400 the findings of the study at all. That's what progressivism does. Satan comes to steal, kill,
00:28:07.000 and destroy gay people made in the image of God, just like the rest of us, but need Jesus just like 1.00
00:28:11.980 the rest of us. But children's safety does matter and children need and have a right to a mom 0.99
00:28:16.960 and a dad. In Psalms, God is described as one who is the father of the fatherless and settles the
00:28:23.500 solitary in homes. Father of the fatherless and protector of widows is God in his holy habitation.
00:28:29.320 God settles the solitary in a home. He leads out the prisoners to prosperity, but the rebellious
00:28:34.980 dwell in a parched land. Psalm 68, five through six, Isaiah 117, learn to do good, seek justice,
00:28:42.640 correct oppression, bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause. And it's so
00:28:49.040 amazing. This is what distinguishes God, the Christian God, the only God who really exists, 0.99
00:28:56.220 but from Allah or from the Hindu gods, is that God is described to us as personal,
00:29:03.840 as our father, not just some far off entity that we have to fear, but through Christ that we have
00:29:08.780 access to. Romans 8, 15 says, for you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into
00:29:14.380 fear, but you have received the spirit of adoption as sons by whom we cry, Abba, Father.
00:29:22.180 how incredible is that that we are now brothers and sisters and co-heirs with christ not because
00:29:30.140 we've earned it but because we have been purchased we've been redeemed by the blood of god's only son
00:29:35.320 how much did he love us that is also one thing that you learn even more so not that it can't
00:29:41.820 be learned without children but even more so whether you adopt a child or whether it's your
00:29:45.920 own biological child suddenly all of the fears and all the concerns and anxieties that you have
00:29:51.360 for yourself, all the hopes and the dreams that you have for yourself automatically transferred
00:29:54.600 to this little person that you just met. And you see, oh my gosh, God loves me so much.
00:30:01.700 I, as a finite person, as an imperfect person, love this little child so much. How much more
00:30:07.440 does this infinite, perfect God love me? And how much I would never, if I could stop my child from
00:30:13.320 ever being hurt, I would. And yet Jesus loved us or God loved us so much that he sent his son,
00:30:19.800 his only begotten son to die a death that he didn't have to die on our behalf. It's incredible.
00:30:26.160 There's just so much that we learn from family, from marriage, from children about the gospel.
00:30:33.100 And I think it's actually, it's really, really profound and really important that Bethany
00:30:39.720 Christian Trust and hopefully other institutions follow suit, that they align with God's word about
00:30:45.020 this because it's not just about, oh yeah, this one tenet of Christianity, this is like a gospel
00:30:49.660 level issue. This is allowing children to see the structure that the God of the universe made
00:30:54.760 in which his gospel is reflected. How incredible is that? All right. Good for Bethany Christian
00:31:02.660 Trust. Now we have a conversation with a professor, Robert George. He has championed this idea of
00:31:10.220 Fidelity Month in the month of June, where we can celebrate something different than the vice of
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00:32:49.760 Professor George, thanks so much for joining us. You're the founder of Fidelity Month,
00:32:55.240 which is different than Pride Month. We've got a virtue and fidelity, a vice and pride. 0.79
00:33:00.360 So tell us why you decided to establish this month and what it means.
00:33:04.640 Well, thank you, Alibeth. It's a real pleasure to be on your show, and I'm grateful to you for
00:33:09.360 inviting me on. I love to talk about Fidelity Month. Back in 2023, I woke up one morning and
00:33:15.280 was doing my morning reading on the websites and so forth, and I learned about a poll that
00:33:21.300 indicated that Americans' belief in the importance of certain traditional values that had always been
00:33:26.920 our sources of unity and strength had very considerably eroded over the past decade and a
00:33:32.940 half or so. And so, for example, Americans' reported sense of the importance of faith in God
00:33:40.560 had diminished very significantly. Americans' belief in the importance of having children,
00:33:46.280 having a family, marriage and the family, also diminished very significantly. Americans' belief
00:33:51.700 in the importance of patriotism, love of country, service to community, again, diminished very
00:33:58.200 significantly. The only value that Americans believe in the importance of had gone up was
00:34:04.020 money. Now, I'm all for people doing very well materially. I want everybody to be prosperous.
00:34:10.700 I want everybody to be able to take care of their families, take care of their own needs,
00:34:14.480 have a few luxuries. That's great. But gosh, money is much less important. Material things
00:34:19.200 are much less important than basic spiritual and moral values. So I was concerned. After all,
00:34:26.540 we find our sources of strength and unity in this nation, this democratic republic called
00:34:32.080 the United States of America, not in common bonds of race or ethnicity. We're many races,
00:34:37.660 many different ethnicities. Not in common bonds of religion when it comes to particular
00:34:42.980 denominations, for example, or traditions of faith. We're Catholics and Protestants. We're
00:34:47.420 Jews and Christians. We have people from Eastern traditions of faith, other traditions of faith,
00:34:51.800 but we're all Americans. We don't have a common cultural history. People come from lots of
00:34:56.660 different cultural backgrounds. So what has historically given us strength and unity,
00:35:02.220 not race, not ethnicity, not our particular religious denomination or tradition, rather
00:35:07.480 it's been, number one, a shared belief in America's fundamental constitutional principles,
00:35:13.060 the founding principles, the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution,
00:35:16.820 But also, and very importantly, Ali Beth, a shared commitment across the races, ethnicities, religious traditions, in the importance of God and faith in God, in the importance of the family and fidelity in marriage and to your children.
00:35:32.480 And then, of course, patriotism, love of country.
00:35:35.260 It doesn't matter whether you're black or white, Asian, Latino.
00:35:39.360 It doesn't matter whether your ancestors came from Croatia or Japan or where they came from.
00:35:44.320 We believe in patriotism, love of our country, at least we historically have.
00:35:49.580 So when I saw that these values were diminishing, I began to worry, where will our strength
00:35:54.600 and unity come from if we don't revive these values?
00:35:57.120 So I thought, well, look, there's a month for this and a day for that and a week for the other
00:36:02.140 thing when it comes to all sorts of causes. What we need is a month dedicated to fidelity,
00:36:08.660 to rebuilding and restoring fidelity to God, fidelity to spouses and families, fidelity to
00:36:14.840 our country and communities. So by the power vested in me, Ali Beth, by absolutely no one,
00:36:19.900 I took to my social media accounts and declared June to be Fidelity Month. And the idea took off
00:36:25.960 Because I think people began to see that we really do need to rebuild these values if
00:36:32.420 we are to hang together as one people, one nation under God.
00:36:36.220 And we really do need to restore our people's faith in God and in family and in country.
00:36:45.680 You know, you're a Catholic.
00:36:47.480 I'm Protestant.
00:36:48.880 You talk about how people of different backgrounds are obviously not all united by our unity
00:36:55.360 on every single theological aspect, but it does seem to me like the lack of desire to uphold
00:37:04.480 values like fidelity is downstream from a letting go of our Christian heritage. And I don't know if
00:37:13.080 you agree with that or not, but as America has become less Christian and as we have welcomed in 0.72
00:37:19.480 all different kinds of worldviews, the secularization of America, but also
00:37:24.240 Christianity kind of waning as a majority. That, to me, is what comes to mind when I think about
00:37:30.720 the why behind why don't people care more about fidelity and faithfulness to your family and in
00:37:36.240 marriage. To me, it seems like the decreasing influence of Christianity, but I wonder if you
00:37:41.820 agree with that. Well, of course, our whole civilization has been shaped by the Bible,
00:37:47.160 and the Bible was brought to these lands, first to Europe and then over to us, via Christianity.
00:37:54.700 Now, of course, Christianity is itself rooted in the Jewish tradition. And we have had people of
00:38:02.440 other faiths, including non-biblical traditions, who've been patriotic Americans, who've shed their
00:38:07.380 blood on our battlefields in support of American freedom. So I do think the country suffers from 0.96
00:38:17.320 the loss of the fidelity to God among Christians, but it's a broader problem of secularization.
00:38:24.480 It's not just in the Christian community, which of course historically has been the largest,
00:38:28.700 overwhelmingly largest community of religious believers in the United States. We find the same
00:38:32.620 thing in the Jewish community, and I know my Jewish friends are worried about that in their
00:38:36.420 community. We find the same thing in other communities of faith. Secularization tends to
00:38:41.900 have lots of negative consequences in a country that's founded on the proposition that all men
00:38:50.460 are created equal, that they're endowed by who? Not by government, not by the king, not by the
00:38:55.140 president, not by the Supreme Court, not by Congress, not by parliament, by God, by a more
00:39:01.080 than merely human power, by divine power, created equal, endowed by their creator with certain
00:39:07.540 unalienable rights. So secularization, I think, is no question about it part of the problem. But
00:39:13.340 you do have a chicken and egg issue here. Does the loss of fidelity result in secularization,
00:39:19.400 or does secularization come from the loss of fidelity?
00:39:24.280 Yeah, I think that's a really good point. And I'm curious for you to explain a little bit more
00:39:29.180 what those consequences are? How do we see in our everyday life, or maybe just in the political and
00:39:37.680 culture wars that are raging today, this lack of fidelity to fidelity? How does it manifest itself?
00:39:46.380 Let me tell you how I think it manifests itself. In an unwillingness to sacrifice,
00:39:52.060 an unwillingness to take risks, an unwillingness to do hard things that our ancestors were willing
00:39:59.640 to do, beginning with our founding fathers. You know, Allie Beth, when those men and women
00:40:05.040 decided they were going to break with the greatest power on earth, Britain, greatest military power
00:40:12.540 on earth, and establish an independent nation, they knew that they were putting their heads
00:40:18.240 in nooses. If this revolution failed, and the likely odds were it was going to fail. I mean,
00:40:25.020 the chances of success were very slim. We were lucky that it was successful. But the chances
00:40:29.900 were slim. They knew that if it failed, they would be tried and executed for treason. But
00:40:37.260 they were willing to take risks and make sacrifices because they believed in those
00:40:41.960 principles that they set forth, they articulated in the Declaration of Independence. And the same
00:40:47.440 is true when it comes to marriage and family. The same is true when it comes to faith in God
00:40:51.780 himself. Here's where the difficulty comes. If we lose faith in God, we're unwilling to make
00:41:00.300 sacrifices, to take risks for our faith. If we lose faith in the importance of marriage and the
00:41:06.340 family, we lose the willingness to work hard, to take risks, to do dangerous things, to do hard
00:41:12.480 things, to make sacrifices for our spouses and for our kids. If we lose faith in our country,
00:41:19.360 if we become unpatriotic, we lose the virtue of patriotism, we're going to be unwilling to take
00:41:24.500 the risks, do the hard things, make the sacrifices that you need to make if you're to preserve
00:41:29.980 a democratic republic. It all becomes, Ellie Beth, about me, myself, and I. It becomes a kind of
00:41:37.220 radical individualism. This is what comes with secularism, a radical individualism. I care about
00:41:42.180 myself. And I'm not going to put myself at risk, not for God, not for my family, not for my
00:41:49.940 country, not for my community. But we at our best at Americans have flourished precisely because it
00:41:59.300 wasn't about me, myself, and I. Yes, we believe in the profound inherent dignity of the individual.
00:42:05.940 We're not collectivists. We don't go down that road. Well, the new mayor of New York says he
00:42:10.040 wants to go down that road. But most Americans don't want to go down that road. But there's a
00:42:15.460 difference between honoring the dignity of the individual and embracing the ideology of
00:42:21.720 individualism, which makes everything about me and not about what I can give to and must give to
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00:44:49.520 Yeah, I've said many times before that we've exchanged the God of scripture for the God of
00:44:55.400 self. And the God of self is actually a very cruel God. I mean, it demands absolutely everything
00:45:02.040 of us and promises us happiness. But ironically, the happiness at all costs mentality actually
00:45:09.840 costs us our happiness. Ultimately, we serve ourselves. We do the things that remove all
00:45:15.620 inconvenience, all friction, all sacrifice from our lives in an effort to find the dopamine,
00:45:20.860 to find the thing that makes us happy in the moment. And yet rates of depression, anxiety,
00:45:26.220 loneliness purposelessness all skyrocket and when you talk about those stats that you did
00:45:32.140 at the beginning that okay we care less about family about children about faith but more about
00:45:37.700 money i'm like there's that god of self it's demanding everything of us and you know just
00:45:42.540 like satan it promises something that we will never actually get and at the end of it we've
00:45:48.840 we're like okay well that's that's it i've reached the death at the dead end with um nothing to show
00:45:54.420 for it. That's why I think what you're doing not only has practical significance, we need more
00:46:00.300 kids, we need more families, we need stronger marriages, but there's something very profoundly
00:46:04.560 spiritual there. To me, we need an awakening. This has to be a spiritual about-face that we make
00:46:12.000 and the choice to no longer worship ourselves. Exactly right. The worship of self, like any
00:46:18.200 false God does not deliver on its promises. It doesn't deliver, as you say, happiness. It's just
00:46:24.620 frustration, disappointment, and then ultimately what we're seeing so much of today, and you
00:46:29.420 pointed this out, anxiety, depression, hopelessness, helplessness, and on and on. So we do need a
00:46:37.640 revival, but I think what we need is a revival of faith, faith in God, fidelity to our spouses
00:46:43.340 and families, which goes well beyond just not having affairs. That's the minimum. Beyond that,
00:46:50.860 when it comes to ability in marriage and to family, it's being there for your spouse. It's
00:46:56.380 serving your spouse, serving your husband, serving your wife, and then together, husband and wife,
00:47:00.480 serving your children. Marriage is fundamentally a vocation. And what does a vocation mean? A
00:47:05.460 vocation means a calling to serve. In marriage, we serve our spouses. We serve our children.
00:47:11.420 Same with patriotism, love of country. It's getting beyond ourselves, outside ourselves, noticing there's something higher and greater that we should serve. So I'd encourage everybody to go to the Fidelity Month website. It's just fidelitymonth.com. Very simple to get to, fidelitymonth.com.
00:47:30.240 And you'll see that this awakening we are trying to ignite is a grassroots movement.
00:47:37.600 It is not top down.
00:47:39.280 I'm not a CEO.
00:47:40.640 We don't have any staff.
00:47:42.740 We have an executive director who works without pay in that role.
00:47:49.100 I'm the founder, but I don't raise money.
00:47:51.520 We don't have a budget.
00:47:52.500 We don't have a staff or anything like that.
00:47:56.040 It's a grassroots movement of people all over the country from all sorts of different faith backgrounds, races, ethnicities, economic classes, even political points of view who say, you know what, we're going to rebuild fidelity in this country.
00:48:12.800 And there are lots of things you can do, beginning with going to our website at FidelityMonth.com and downloading our wonderful logo for Fidelity Month.
00:48:21.800 It's the myrtle leaf, which is the historic, the myrtle wreath, I should say, the historic symbol of fidelity going all the way back into the ancient world.
00:48:29.380 And you can use that logo free of charge for your social media accounts, for your profile picture or your banner photograph.
00:48:38.180 You can talk with your pastor about preaching at least one sermon, a homily, on the importance of fidelity.
00:48:46.300 You can host an event.
00:48:49.260 You can write a letter to the editor.
00:48:50.960 You can use your own social media to spread the word about Fidelity Month.
00:48:56.000 You're absolutely right.
00:48:57.040 You nailed it.
00:48:57.560 We're trying here to bring about a new awakening, to restore those values that once were and
00:49:04.740 can yet be again our sources of unity and strength in this country.
00:49:11.700 We've already seen states like the state of Utah, the state of Arkansas take on Fidelity
00:49:17.440 Month, and we even have legislators and the state of Michigan, which I don't know how
00:49:23.760 much the governor likes this but certainly legislators there saying you know what we're
00:49:28.160 going to pass this resolution to honor fidelity month so it's just a family-centered i think
00:49:36.380 christ glorifying as a christian it glorifies the order that he created but also at american
00:49:42.920 values representing alternative to a month that celebrates vice and a lack of self-control and
00:49:50.120 actually ends in destruction for people and for families and for children. And so I'm thankful
00:49:55.820 for the alternative. And people are always looking for ways, okay, what can I do to kind of push back?
00:50:00.380 What can I do to represent my values? And this is a really simple way to do that. And the cool
00:50:05.040 thing is that people can kind of make it their own in their own communities. And so you said it's
00:50:09.820 fidelitymonth.com? Fidelitymonth.com. And there you'll find the Fidelity Month prayer. And we
00:50:15.820 love everybody to pray the Fidelity Month prayer. Do a version of your own Fidelity Month prayer.
00:50:20.540 Tailor it to your particular tradition. Get in touch with your mayor. Ask him to recognize or
00:50:26.760 her to recognize Fidelity Month, your state representatives, your representatives in Congress.
00:50:32.440 As you pointed out, Allie Beth, Utah and Arkansas have both formally recognized Fidelity Month.
00:50:39.780 Their governor's issued proclamations. Michigan's House of Representatives recognizes Fidelity
00:50:44.520 Month. Kentucky's Senate recognizes Fidelity Month. So our movement is growing. The word is
00:50:50.060 spreading. And we need everybody to get involved. And notice, Ali Beth, even if there were no such
00:50:58.060 thing as Pride Month, we're not reacting to something here. Even if there were no such
00:51:02.020 thing as Pride Month, we would still need to rebuild Fidelity Month in this country. We would 1.00
00:51:06.760 be doing exactly what we're doing. These are positive values and virtues that we are
00:51:13.400 pressing here, that we're holding up, lifting up, that we're trying to get people to see the
00:51:19.920 importance of once again. So it's not a reactive thing. It's a positive message to meet a serious
00:51:26.920 need that we in this culture have today. Yes, amen. Well, thank you so much,
00:51:33.880 Professor George, I really appreciate your time. Thank you, Helibeth.
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00:53:00.000 Y'all, if you are listening to this and not watching it and you have not seen Hillary Clinton
00:53:06.020 and I making sugar cookies in the kitchen with our AI little segment opener, then you
00:53:15.120 are greatly missing out.
00:53:16.480 It is worth watching this episode on YouTube or Spotify just for that, just to see that
00:53:22.320 really disturbingly realistic picture of HRC and I together in the kitchen.
00:53:29.080 All right. I saw this video going around, went viral. I saw Yashar Ali sharing it on X,
00:53:36.100 and it is from Joe Frost, who is widely known as the Super Nanny. Remember that show from that
00:53:41.600 reality TV series? She posted this video to her Instagram. It got quite the reaction. Here is
00:53:49.680 we are slowly disabling our children and i don't say that lightly i say that because i work with
00:53:59.360 families continuously every day and i'm seeing a pattern that's growing children who are capable
00:54:06.740 but not being taught we're pushing children along on bikes instead of teaching them how
00:54:12.560 to ride them we're keeping children in strollers who should be walking climbing building strength
00:54:18.880 every time we step in and do it for them or avoid teaching because it's slower, messier or
00:54:26.660 inconvenient, we take away an opportunity for them to become capable and children want to feel
00:54:33.820 capable. So we go back to basics, parents. We teach the bike riding with support, then without. We
00:54:42.460 remove the dummy when it's no longer needed. We show them how to brush their teeth properly,
00:54:47.220 not rely on this electric tool. We sit at the table and we teach them how to eat properly.
00:54:52.760 We guide, we repeat, we expect, not perfectly, consistently, because independence isn't something
00:55:00.560 that just happens. It's taught parents. And if we don't teach it, we can't be surprised
00:55:07.480 when it's missing. Okay. I think she makes some really good points. And this is not only a problem
00:55:14.280 among those who are truly permissive parents, permissive parents, even different than so-called
00:55:18.860 gentle parents, but permissive parents who really just believe that your only job is to be your
00:55:23.080 kid's pal and to be their friend and to help them do what they want and to just comply with
00:55:28.620 whatever their desires are. I think there are some parents like that who might have some like
00:55:33.760 good intentions and they just think that that's what you're supposed to do as a parent. And then
00:55:37.820 I also think it has to do a lot with parents being overly busy, overly controlled and consumed by
00:55:43.300 their phones, um, and just tired. And so they're lazy. And so they outsource their parenting to
00:55:49.400 tablets, to social media, to different devices that kind of work as a long-term pacifier for
00:55:55.980 their kids. So they don't have to do the hard and energy taking work of actually disciplining their
00:56:01.100 child, instructing their child, training their child and all of that. So I think that obviously
00:56:05.700 is a set of parents who really needs to hear something like this, but then there are also,
00:56:11.080 I think there's another category. I think there's like the gentle parents who aren't necessarily
00:56:14.680 permissive, but who do believe that talk therapy is the only way to set boundaries with your kids
00:56:21.680 who also believe that a form of gentle parenting is doing things for your kids. Not all, you know,
00:56:28.000 so-called gentle parents believe that, but that is like a real phenomenon. If it makes them happy,
00:56:32.460 if it makes them feel supported, then I'm going to do that. But then there's the parents who are
00:56:36.120 not permissive or not gentle parents. They're parents who are absolutely doing the best that
00:56:41.360 they can, who believe in discipline, who believe in boundary setting, who believe in manners,
00:56:44.940 who believe in trying to foster independence, that everything that she's talking about like
00:56:49.100 is still convicting. It's still a challenge because even I think the best of parents struggle
00:56:56.300 in one area or another to know how much independence to give their child. Like I will say
00:57:03.260 it's easier the more kids that you have, not harder to know when to give them independence
00:57:09.820 and to let them do things by themselves. For me, in my experience with your first,
00:57:16.140 it's the hardest because it's like suddenly they're not a baby anymore. And one day you
00:57:21.120 look at them and you're like, what the heck? When did you get so tall? Like you're a full grown
00:57:25.000 person. You're not a baby. And I didn't realize that. And, oh, okay. Yeah. We got to take the
00:57:30.460 training wheels off. Oh, okay. Yeah. You need to be doing this by yourself. And sometimes it just
00:57:34.960 catches up to you because life moves so fast and like COVID made time weird. And I think sometimes
00:57:41.260 that just happens and it's different with every child and every child needs something different,
00:57:45.760 but there does come a time. I think when your children are toddlers, when you have to go
00:57:50.900 through that like little difficult window of making them do something by themselves that they
00:57:56.640 can't do yet. That is the hard thing because it is always easier. It's always faster. It's always
00:58:01.820 more efficient for you to do it for them. Always. I'm totally guilty of that, like at a variety of
00:58:06.960 times, at a variety of ways. But then you realize, oh gosh, I've been doing that and now they can't
00:58:11.520 do it. And now when I want them to do it, they're going to whine about having to do it themselves.
00:58:15.840 And that's my fault because I've continued to do it. And so you learn. It's like a little bit of
00:58:20.860 like a give and take. You learn with one child, you do it better with the next child and it's
00:58:24.820 different personality and different challenges. But I think what she's saying is absolutely true.
00:58:28.660 And there was this study by the Ed Week Research Center who found via preschool teachers that kids
00:58:37.280 today in pre-K are doing a lot worse when it comes to these developmental milestones than kids have
00:58:44.000 in the past. 52%, according to the study of preschool educators, reported that their current
00:58:49.020 students had more difficulty tying their shoes than children the same age two years ago. 54%
00:58:54.800 said potty training was more challenging for pre-K students. 56% said putting on coats without
00:59:00.400 assistance is more challenging. 72% of total respondents said students were struggling more
00:59:05.060 to follow directions. 59% reported that student behavior in their classrooms had worsened over
00:59:11.260 the past two years. I think screens, I think overstimulation of parents. I think just this
00:59:18.880 phenomenon of parents thinking that any form of discipline or boundary setting or punishment
00:59:23.960 is wrong or mean, or this belief, which is not true that your kids are good inside. And if they
00:59:30.800 act out, it's because they're just misunderstood. I mean, that's a theological misunderstanding of
00:59:35.900 human nature that is going to trickle down into your idea of discipline. That's going to probably
00:59:40.760 make you not the best parent for your child and your child can't reach the fullness of their
00:59:45.460 potential, uh, with that mentality. Um, but then I also think it's, you know, it could be other
00:59:51.960 things that we just don't know. Like preschool teachers tell me today, my kids have gone through
00:59:56.420 preschool, absolutely wonderful preschool teachers sent from the Lord above, love them so much.
01:00:01.320 But they talk about how kids today cannot use scissors the way that they could in the past.
01:00:09.620 Like all kids, most kids. And I know for a fact, my kids, the other kids and their little
01:00:15.720 Christian preschool classroom. These are not kids that are on tablets. Like these are not kids that
01:00:22.460 are using those devices. These are kids like my kids who are outside playing all day, like riding
01:00:27.880 bikes, doing chalk, playing in the sprinklers, all that kind of thing. And first, I don't know
01:00:32.980 what it is. Like the dexterity apparently, according to teachers is worse today than it was
01:00:39.280 in the past. And I'm like, well, should I be practicing with scissors at home more often?
01:00:44.240 I didn't think about that. So again, I think there's a category of parents who aren't necessarily
01:00:49.260 like failing when it comes to the discipline, but who, I don't know, maybe just like aren't
01:00:55.540 realizing that, okay, oh, you got to practice more of these dexterous things, or maybe there
01:00:59.800 are fewer things in life that require that dexterity now. But I thought that this was a
01:01:05.000 really great video challenging for all parents. And it made me take stock of the things, oh,
01:01:11.080 like what am I still doing for my child that they can do, but they don't do yet because I haven't
01:01:18.100 taken the time because we haven't disciplined ourselves. Most of the lack of discipline from
01:01:23.600 our children and most of the lack, a lot of the lack of self-control, not all, but a lot of the
01:01:28.240 lack of self-control in children really comes down to like a lack of discipline and self-control in
01:01:33.480 the parents. Like, do you have the self-control to discipline? Do you have the discipline to sit
01:01:38.680 there and like instruct them and teach them. That's the hard part of parenting. It's not like
01:01:43.020 kids being unruly. It is ruling ourselves and our own selfishness and impatience and laziness and
01:01:49.780 stuff. Um, so anyway, I just thought that that was really good. And probably the people who
01:01:54.240 didn't like to hear it need to hear it the most. And I just love people who are willing to say
01:01:59.060 hard truths, especially when it comes to things that are for the sake of our kids and future
01:02:03.560 generations. Um, all right, that's it. That's all we got time for today. And we will be back here
01:02:09.540 on Friday with that very major interview.