Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - July 01, 2026


Ep 1367 | Famous WitchToker Follows Jesus — and Faces Major Backlash 


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00:00:00.000 A super famous tarot card reader on Witch Talk has now become a Christian.
00:00:05.280 She's lost thousands of followers and faces immense backlash.
00:00:09.200 We've got all the details on that and her incredible testimony today.
00:00:12.600 Also, the daughters of the American Revolution are no longer just the daughters.
00:00:16.780 Now they are accepting men who identify as women.
00:00:19.300 And we will go through the timeline of just how this happened and see if this could actually
00:00:24.580 change in just a few months.
00:00:26.400 We've got all of that, plus some lifestyle pitter-patter on today's episode of Relatable.
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00:00:46.740 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:00:49.040 Happy Wednesday.
00:00:50.360 Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far.
00:00:52.520 All right, this is our last episode before the 4th of July.
00:00:56.400 And this is a very special 4th of July.
00:00:58.800 Every 4th of July is special for me, someone who was born loving America.
00:01:03.660 My parents can tell you that.
00:01:05.180 I still cry, have always cried singing the Star Spangled Banner.
00:01:09.080 Unless it's Fergie, that did not make me cry in the I love my country sense, but what is happening sense.
00:01:15.860 Sorry, sorry to Fergie.
00:01:17.140 And if you have no idea what I'm talking about and you just need a good little laugh, a good little reprieve from the stress of the day,
00:01:22.900 then you should go look up that rendition of the Star Spangled Banner. But most renditions
00:01:28.060 I am so impressed by and just to love and the lyrics to that song remind me
00:01:32.460 what an immense blessing it is to be born in the United States. This year though is special. It's
00:01:37.900 not just about fireworks and parades and hot dogs and all of that good stuff, which I just
00:01:41.900 love. I love every single bit of that, but it is the 250th birthday of our wonderful Republic that
00:01:50.000 we have been so blessed by the Lord to get to live in. And I know a lot of people, Barack Obama,
00:01:55.440 for example, he put out some kind of tweet talking about the complexities and the layers and the
00:02:00.040 nuances of celebrating America, knowing that the founders created this incredible nation,
00:02:05.340 but also they were slaveholders. Let me just, let me just offer something to you. Let me just
00:02:11.280 pitch something for you that this is actually not the time for nuance. Like this is actually
00:02:15.940 not the time to wallow in complexity and to think about all of the horrible things and
00:02:22.700 atrocities that were committed by the founding fathers, okay, or that you believe were committed
00:02:27.300 by the founding fathers.
00:02:28.680 We all know that slavery is horrible.
00:02:30.480 We all know that everyone is made in the image of God, and human beings should not be owned,
00:02:34.180 should not be subjugated, all of that.
00:02:36.280 This is not the time for those conversations.
00:02:38.480 This is the time for gratitude.
00:02:40.500 This is the time to say, thank you, Lord, out of all of the places that I could have
00:02:44.580 been born. And of all of the families that I could have been born to, you allowed me, by your grace,
00:02:51.300 nothing that I could have merited to be born here. With all of this freedom and all of this
00:02:57.640 opportunity, with all of this liberty to get to share the gospel, to get to worship freely,
00:03:03.920 to get to go to church every Sunday without fear that the government is going to try to imprison
00:03:08.740 me or torture me or kill me, as is true for so many Christians around the world. And that freedom
00:03:14.080 that we have been given here in America is not just so we can say, oh, this is great. I'm so
00:03:20.100 lucky. It is to use it. We use that freedom. We use these gifts. We use this incredible liberty
00:03:26.440 that we have been given that is represented a very small historically reprieve from religious
00:03:32.400 persecution for Christians. And we use that to God's glory. We use that for evangelism. We use
00:03:39.680 that to help people in other countries. We use that to help people in this country. We use that
00:03:43.860 to advance the gospel as much as possible, knowing that God doesn't need a first amendment.
00:03:48.580 He doesn't need the constitution. He doesn't need anything to advance his kingdom. He can do it
00:03:53.440 however and whenever he wants to, but he chooses to. He chooses to use all kinds of means by which
00:04:01.640 he's going to accomplish his will. And here in America, he has allowed freedom to flourish.
00:04:06.900 And one of those purposes and one of those fruits has been the going out of the gospel,
00:04:11.900 both here in America and abroad. And I think about all the time, especially when I'm talking
00:04:16.880 to my kids, my oldest is, she asks all kinds of questions, but she asks questions about people in
00:04:22.300 other countries, kids in other countries, what their life is like, what the governments are
00:04:26.020 like. She has this map that we look at all of the different nations and what the cultures are like
00:04:31.880 and what the people in charge are like, what they allow, what they don't allow. And she's very
00:04:35.580 fascinated by these conversations, but it's disconcerting. I think for a child who has been
00:04:40.440 raised in the United States with a loving Christian family to realize that there are
00:04:43.940 other kinds of upbringings in the world that don't have as many blessings as she has gotten
00:04:49.940 to have, that not everyone has a home, not everyone has a neighborhood, not everyone
00:04:53.220 has a school, not everyone has the ability to go to Sunday school and sing songs about Jesus.
00:04:58.620 And so in talking about these things to her, I have just been renewed in my gratitude.
00:05:04.080 Thank you, Lord, for making me an American and allow me to use this gift for your glory,
00:05:10.580 for the good of my neighbors who live here and for the good of your kingdom everywhere.
00:05:16.680 And we talked about, we talked about a little bit last week and I posted on my Instagram
00:05:20.840 on Tuesday morning, that verse in Jeremiah 29, not 29, 11.
00:05:25.760 That's the one that everyone knows a great verse.
00:05:27.780 I've planned to prosper you and not to harm you, to give you a hope and a future.
00:05:31.360 That's a promise that God is giving the Israelites in exile.
00:05:35.780 And so you're in exile in Babylon. 0.87
00:05:37.780 You're away from your home.
00:05:39.160 You might not be thinking, wow, the Lord has good plans for me.
00:05:41.640 And he assures them that he does.
00:05:44.900 But if you back up to verse 7, he says, pray for the city in which I have placed you, for
00:05:50.680 in its welfare, you will find your welfare.
00:05:53.080 And I'm not trying to say that American Christians today are the same thing as ancient Israel. 0.91
00:05:57.840 I'm not saying that America is God's chosen nation.
00:06:00.760 That's not the argument that I'm making, but I do think that there's a parallel that
00:06:05.040 Christians can take from that.
00:06:06.440 Christians are also described as in exile.
00:06:09.520 We are exiles in this world.
00:06:11.060 Our citizenship is in heaven.
00:06:12.600 This world is not our home.
00:06:14.700 And so just as we are exiles in this world, I believe that like ancient Israel, who is
00:06:20.460 in exile in Babylon, we are called to seek the welfare of the city in which God has providentially
00:06:25.460 placed us.
00:06:26.140 For in its welfare, we will find our welfare, welfare for not just ourselves.
00:06:30.760 in our communities, but for the future generations. And so when people, they act so disengaged and
00:06:38.980 disenchanted with America and all they want to do is wallow in the moral complexities, look,
00:06:43.720 that can render you not smarter, not more compassionate in some cases, but actually
00:06:48.160 just ineffective and ungrateful. Every single country in the entire world has a history
00:06:55.020 that is mixed in with all kinds of iniquity.
00:06:58.580 That is just true.
00:07:00.220 And we can acknowledge that and we can study real history.
00:07:04.160 We can learn from those things, but we can also just be grateful and we can just honor
00:07:10.060 the Lord for the grace that he has shown us and all of the gifts that have gotten to come
00:07:13.640 from that.
00:07:14.340 And I just want to remind you too of our Christian heritage.
00:07:18.360 I want to read a couple of verses, not verses, a couple of quotes from the founding fathers
00:07:23.540 that just remind us who the founding fathers were.
00:07:27.160 I know a lot of people say, oh, they were secular, they were agnostic, they were deist.
00:07:31.060 And certainly some of them had theological views that would have been a little foreign
00:07:34.680 to us today.
00:07:35.680 And Thomas Jefferson was certainly more deistic in believing that there was a far-off God
00:07:40.660 who kind of loosely paid attention to and directed the steps of man, but wasn't intimately
00:07:46.000 involved in our lives.
00:07:47.620 Some of them had weird views about Jesus, but they professed for the most part Christianity
00:07:53.900 and they believed in Jesus as the son of God and as the only means of salvation.
00:07:58.240 That is why I believe it was nine of the 13 colonies that actually required, if you were
00:08:02.420 going to be a political representative, that you had to be a Protestant Christian, not
00:08:08.060 just the Catholic, not Greek Orthodox, just saying how it was historically, but actually
00:08:12.700 a Protestant Christian and had to confess the name of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior,
00:08:18.980 that is how embedded the gospel and biblical Christianity was with the founding of our
00:08:25.680 country. George Washington, in his general order to the Continental Army during the Revolutionary
00:08:31.180 War, he wrote all of these wonderful letters. And one of the things he said is, he said,
00:08:35.480 to the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more
00:08:40.160 distinguished character of Christian. And so he got the loves, the ordering of loves right that
00:08:46.200 C.S. Lewis talks about in the four loves. C.S. Lewis talks about the love of one's country,
00:08:50.920 the love of one's culture, how that should be a natural love that is good because the natural
00:08:56.080 loves, the instinctive loves to love one's own place leads us to the higher loves of
00:09:02.840 agape love, of sacrificing for other people, yes, but also leads us to the agape love of God.
00:09:11.280 And so here you see that George Washington understood the proper ordering of loves.
00:09:16.480 You know, J.D. Vance talked about this at one point and people freaked out. Ordo Amoris,
00:09:20.100 the ordering of loves, but that everyone does and everyone should do. And the order in which
00:09:27.280 we put our loves is very important. Love of God, love of family, love of country. Countries are
00:09:33.580 like families. We should love our country more than other countries. We should put the well-being
00:09:38.780 of our fellow citizens and of our country first. That is a way to love our neighbor. And that is
00:09:43.880 an ordering that God has naturally put in our hearts. And so when people say, oh, this radical
00:09:49.680 Christian nationalism, really what they're talking about is the faith and the view of our founders.
00:09:54.260 Like if you want to believe that our founders were radical, that our founders were extreme, that our founders were fascists and tyrants, when the opposite is actually true.
00:10:05.200 I mean, they were actually extreme at the time for believing in a republic, for believing in self-governance.
00:10:11.760 That was extreme and radical at the time.
00:10:13.920 So if that's what you mean, then, OK, I guess we'll take the label.
00:10:18.440 But it's actually progressives, of course, who are extremely extreme and their disdain for America.
00:10:25.020 They call it complexity and nuance, but really many times it's ingratitude, their belief about gender, their belief about abortion, their belief about morality and reality and God and what his place is as the authority, as the creator, as the giver of rights.
00:10:42.400 progressives in general, reject the faith and the views of our founders. And then they turn around
00:10:47.820 and call us who have those associations with our founders, radicals and extremes. So just commit
00:10:53.700 this year to not be intimidated by that rhetoric. That rhetoric is simply to tell you and you alone,
00:11:02.220 conservative Christian, that you have to check your faith at the door, that you and you alone
00:11:06.780 can't bring your faith into the public square. You and you alone can't bring your faith into
00:11:11.020 the voting booth. Every single person brings the fullness of their worldview into the voting booth,
00:11:16.160 the secular progressive. They want to foist upon you, their belief about when life begins.
00:11:22.100 They want to foist upon you, their belief about biology, their belief about, um, self-identification,
00:11:28.300 their belief about the definition of marriage. They want to force those beliefs onto children,
00:11:33.140 onto other voters, onto the rest of the country. And yet we are not allowed to bring our beliefs
00:11:39.660 about the preciousness of life inside the womb into the voting booth without being called some
00:11:43.400 kind of tyrant or fascist? No, it's a manipulation tactic. Okay. You Christian, you believe that
00:11:50.380 Jesus is King just as the founders did. And you just as the founders did, you understand that
00:11:55.240 that is inextricably intertwined with everything you believe politically and culturally. That's
00:12:00.060 not the same as trying to bring about a theocracy in which everyone has to worship or believe the
00:12:04.280 way that we do. We don't believe that. But if God is the creator and the authority and therefore
00:12:08.300 the definer of all things, then of course that is naturally going to affect what we think about
00:12:15.500 politics and culture and morality and all of that. Everything is downstream from who you believe
00:12:20.880 is in charge. The founders understood that. We understand that. You know, America was created
00:12:28.420 for a moral and religious people. It is impossible without that. And so the future of America really 0.83
00:12:35.420 depends upon a Christian awakening, the belief in the same gospel that many of the founders
00:12:42.400 believed in.
00:12:44.960 And it's not that we want a revival or we want an awakening just for pragmatic political
00:12:50.760 purposes or really anything to do with the United States, but we just know that that
00:12:54.700 is a natural outflowing of our love for Jesus, our evangelism, and other people turning to
00:13:00.260 Christ.
00:13:01.260 We've seen that throughout history.
00:13:02.700 God has blessed us tremendously for 250 years. And, you know, there's a lot of people on the
00:13:08.700 right now who work with the left in trying to make you think that America is inherently a bad
00:13:14.620 country to make you, um, demoralized and discouraged and disengaged from the political
00:13:21.300 process to take for granted your freedom to have a say in who represents us in Washington.
00:13:27.980 It's not a perfect system, but where else are you going to go?
00:13:32.060 Where else do we have all of this?
00:13:34.400 Where else is your voice going to be heard?
00:13:36.780 Where else do you have the freedom to monetize criticism of the government?
00:13:43.400 Where else?
00:13:44.680 Not even in the UK, not in Canada.
00:13:47.120 It's here.
00:13:48.220 So don't stop listening to the voices, especially on the right, who want to make you think the
00:13:54.220 same leftist progressive narrative that we've been hearing for years, that America is actually
00:13:59.120 the main antagonist on the world stage. America has sure done a lot of things that American voters
00:14:08.220 have not wanted and have not been good. That's true of every single nation.
00:14:12.720 Where else are you going to go? Where else has been as blessed as America has been? So
00:14:17.460 just be grateful, celebrate, thank the Lord for the blessing of getting to live here
00:14:22.860 and recommit to allowing your faith in Christ and his word to be inextricably intertwined with
00:14:31.780 everything else you think, say, and do. That includes in our politics and culture for
00:14:35.740 in the welfare of the city that God has providentially placed you in, you will find your
00:14:40.060 welfare. In the welfare of the country in which God has providentially placed you, you will also
00:14:45.940 find your welfare. Seek justice as God defines justice. Love mercy. Walk humbly with your God.
00:14:52.060 Read the book of Isaiah too. I think it's a good roadmap for what the Lord is looking for from his
00:14:58.600 people who have previously been rebellious, who are also in exile. The book of Jeremiah, all of
00:15:04.960 that gives us a really good look at in principle what the Lord is looking for. All right, let's get
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00:18:58.640 many wonderful things going on in our beautiful nation, and we have so many things to be grateful
00:19:04.040 for. At the same time, at the same time, we can look at those who are diverting from those founding
00:19:12.620 principles and who are taking for granted the blessings of liberty and graciousness that the
00:19:18.780 Lord has given our country. Okay. This doesn't take away from our gratitude. This is not a nuanced
00:19:24.960 look at America on the 4th of July. This is just reality. I will unapologetically be celebrating
00:19:31.680 the 4th of July every year, no matter who is present, no matter who's in charge, no matter
00:19:35.920 what is going on in our culture wars. And I'm not going to take my eye off the ball because if
00:19:42.320 Christians are called to engage in culture and in politics, politics matter because policy matters
00:19:47.940 because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people. People matter to God.
00:19:52.460 Therefore, they matter to us. Therefore, politics matter. Then we have to be salt and light in even
00:19:58.320 these darkest areas and we have to know what's going on. We don't get down in the muck and the
00:20:03.100 mire and get weighed down and sad about everything that is going on all the time, but we got to know.
00:20:08.380 we got to know so we can push back and bring light into the darkness. I've watched that happen a lot
00:20:12.960 since COVID. And so let us talk about the daughters of the American revolution. Okay.
00:20:18.240 Daughters of the American revolution. And if you're wondering, Allie, why are you
00:20:22.080 repeating yourself? I heard you the first time. Let me say it again. Daughters of the American
00:20:28.080 revolution will not say that they are just an organization for women. Actually, they won't
00:20:37.600 define what a woman is. Okay. This is how far we've fallen. This institution that has been around 1.00
00:20:44.020 for a very long time, this wonderful American institution that has only been for women. Now, 0.99
00:20:49.860 they won't even say that they're only for women. So this is according to the Federalist in the
00:20:53.960 Washington times, the daughters of the American revolution, a genealogical society for women,
00:20:58.560 whose relatives helped America gain independence 250 years ago has gone woke on Friday, June 26th,
00:21:05.220 a proposed resolution that would have defined woman to mean a woman who was born female and
00:21:10.780 restricted membership only to women was struck down by a 1,481 to 984 vote, 984 vote at the
00:21:20.980 organization's 135th annual continental Congress. Okay. So the wokesters have now accomplished
00:21:28.940 institutional capture in one of our age-old historical institutions here in the United 0.99
00:21:35.900 States. That's how bad things have gotten in that sense. I think we thought and wanted to think that
00:21:40.900 especially after Donald Trump won, that wokeness died. And we've had so, so many wins when it comes 0.99
00:21:46.620 to reality of male and female and protecting women's spaces in sports. Actually, as I'm
00:21:51.460 recording this, the Supreme Court has some decisions that are coming out today, Tuesday,
00:21:56.440 that will really determine a lot of the future for that issue and also for birthright citizenship
00:22:04.680 and all that. Can't speak to it because as I'm talking, I actually don't know the results of it.
00:22:09.200 We've had some major wins in the Supreme Court at high levels of government and state government,
00:22:13.920 but woke is not dead. That's not what it does, okay? Unless you eradicate it completely. I'm
00:22:20.700 not talking about people. I'm talking about it as an ideology and completely divested of all
00:22:27.040 institutional power in all cultural power. It's going to keep coming back like mold.
00:22:32.380 That's just how it is. So don't have any delusions that wokeness and progressivism has waned. It
00:22:38.820 will come back with a vengeance, especially if they take political power in the midterms and
00:22:43.180 then in 2028. So the resolution stated this and praise God for you woman who brought this forth.
00:22:50.100 I would not be surprised at all if the person who brought forth this resolution is your relatable
00:22:54.840 listener. Reach out to me, please. Um, the word, the word woman or the term woman, this resolution
00:23:00.560 stated that got struck down shall be understood to clearly mean a woman who was born female and
00:23:05.980 therefore individuals who are born male shall not be eligible for membership. Duh. Transgender women
00:23:12.300 shall not be eligible for membership and men who have their birth certificates changed from male 0.96
00:23:16.520 a female shall not be eligible for membership. Now, one thing I would have changed there,
00:23:21.320 which may be this person's being strategic and pragmatic, which respect, but the word
00:23:26.660 transgender women, it's confusing. It's not real. Like there's no such thing as that. There are men
00:23:34.620 who identify as women. There are men who present themselves as women. There are men who pretend to
00:23:38.640 be women. There's no such thing as transgender. There's no such thing as a transgender woman. 0.88
00:23:42.360 these are men who are trying to infiltrate women's spaces. It was introduced by members
00:23:47.060 who formed a resistance group called Daughters Advocating for Restoration, which rose up to
00:23:51.200 counter the inclusion of males. The group's leader, Laura McDonald, said in a statement,
00:23:55.080 while many men with amended birth certificates, love that, by the way, I'm going to start like
00:24:00.520 using that instead of men who identify as women, men with amended birth certificates is still a
00:24:06.800 violation of the bylaws. I do believe the will of the assembly was heard today. We don't know
00:24:11.880 what the future holds or what God's plan is, but we do know he has a plan and we trust him.
00:24:17.940 Nowhere in the bylaws does it explicitly state that a biological man can join as long as he
00:24:22.580 identifies as female and provides an amended birth certificate. The inclusion of males stems
00:24:26.440 from DAR's leadership's interpretation of the existing bylaws, which require members to be
00:24:31.960 women, but does not define the term woman. And so they're refusing to define the term woman,
00:24:36.920 which is why it's so important for us Christians to define our terms, because we are supposed to
00:24:44.660 be a bastion of courage and clarity. There's a lot of people who want to be confused. So
00:24:48.960 they are actually sowing chaos through the confusion. That's what they want to do.
00:24:53.540 They might do that in the name of empathy or niceness or whatever it is.
00:24:58.260 But there are a lot of people who don't want the confusion, who don't want the chaos,
00:25:01.680 who just want to be told what is real, what is true. That's where Christians come in. That's 0.80
00:25:05.480 where we've come in for 2000 years. That's what Christians have been killed for, for 2000 years 1.00
00:25:10.340 too. So you've got to be ready to count the cost for that. But that is the role of the Christian
00:25:14.540 that, oh, if you're confused, well, then we have to be the bastion and the refuge away from that
00:25:21.360 confusion and chaos. And we only do that through truth-filled clarity. That's why the role of
00:25:27.040 pastor is so important, so much more important than podcaster, because you've got an authority
00:25:31.800 over the flock. And you were reaching those lost people who are seeking refuge from the chaos.
00:25:38.440 DAR first allowed an openly transgender member to join in 2022. Now five men living as women
00:25:44.260 have reportedly joined DAR chapters. Thousands of women have reportedly resigned from the DAR
00:25:49.580 over the inclusion of trans identified men. So if we go back, like I want to look at how
00:25:56.520 actually this happened? How did this happen? Um, I am so interested in the moment that
00:26:04.140 institutional capture happens that it doesn't just happen once it happens over time, but like
00:26:09.000 what was the pivotal moment that people just kind of shut down their thinking and their moral compass
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00:27:35.800 so the dar was founded in 1890 and this allowed like i said the daughters of those the granddaughters
00:27:50.440 great-granddaughters of those who had fought in the american revolution to preserve the history
00:27:56.320 and it's really incredible that's just something that americans do i always think about the people
00:28:01.100 who took such pains to preserve and translate the Bible, who have taken such pains to preserve
00:28:06.420 the history of a person or a country or a historical event, doing that really out of
00:28:12.300 the goodness of their hearts and something they feel called to do. This is typically what they
00:28:17.080 look like. We've got a picture. They're dressing up as if they are in the colonial times and they
00:28:22.260 are celebrating, yes, the American revolution, also their ancestors who fought hard. It's a lot
00:28:29.160 of older women, which I think is why this is so strange and so jarring for so many people. 0.99
00:28:34.360 Like for example, in full screen 12, we've got some daughters of the American revolution here
00:28:41.260 with some members of our military. Do these look like the people who want Joe turned Janet to be 0.72
00:28:48.640 in their bathrooms or be in their meetings? No, probably not. They're probably not the ones
00:28:53.960 advocating for so-called trans inclusion, but you could see how these people's voices are easily
00:29:00.860 trampled upon by the very aggressive progressive activists. In 2017, activist members first passed
00:29:07.680 out flyers promoting the inclusion of so-called transgender persons. This is only two years after
00:29:14.300 the Obergefell decision, okay? And so everyone who warned that this is going to be a slippery slope,
00:29:20.560 slippery slope is only a fallacy if it doesn't really happen. If it happens, well, it's a
00:29:25.760 warning. And when you redefine husband, wife, you are essentially redefining man and woman.
00:29:32.880 You're redefining mom and dad. You're saying these roles are gender neutral. These roles
00:29:38.860 are replaceable. These roles are interchangeable. For those who say LGB without the T, it's all the
00:29:44.700 same math. Love is love is the same thing as trans women are women. They're all circular. 0.99
00:29:48.720 you're refusing to define what these things actually are. Our marriage is marriage. Those
00:29:54.080 are circular mantras that are meant to persuade you emotionally and arrest your thinking. That's
00:29:59.160 what good propaganda does. It's all the same math. If a husband can become a wife, then a man can
00:30:04.740 become a woman. The same calculations. It's really not difficult at all to see logically how Obergefell 0.96
00:30:11.680 led to the transgender revolution. So fast forward to 2023. So that was 2017. The Daughters
00:30:18.480 of the american revolution announced a bylaw amendment during its continental congress
00:30:22.920 it included that chapters cannot discriminate against an eligible applicant based on race
00:30:28.980 religion sexual orientation national origin age disability or any other characteristic protected
00:30:36.180 by applicable law now how did transgender get in this during the announcement a member asked
00:30:41.820 the amendment would allow for biological males who identify as women to join dar which then to
00:30:47.360 which then-president general Pamela Edwards Rouse Wright responded with yes
00:30:51.440 that one with the proposed change in wording to the bylaw would our chapters
00:30:56.660 be able to still vote not to admit into our chapter a person whose birth
00:31:02.660 certificate has been altered by their state to indicate they are female even
00:31:07.920 though they were born email I'm gonna say it yes if their birth certificate 0.82
00:31:12.780 says they're a female and and you vote against them based on on by their protected class it's 0.91
00:31:20.820 discrimination so if you watch the full clip this woman who is trying to answer this question which
00:31:27.860 she's an older woman i don't know that she is progressive herself but you can see that there's 0.61
00:31:32.360 a lot of confusion she actually doesn't know how to answer this question and she has to have a 0.98
00:31:36.600 younger member come to her and explain what the question is again good job for this woman asking 0.99
00:31:41.820 the question, who are you? Are you a relatable listener? But I know it took a lot of courage to 1.00
00:31:47.040 say that. And she really presses the question asker presses like, okay, but can you're saying
00:31:54.240 that birth certificates, the birth certificate has to be female. But if it's obvious that this
00:31:57.820 person is male, or you know, this person was born male, can you discriminate? Or can you say, no,
00:32:01.740 this person can't be a part of our chapter. And this woman ends up saying, saying no.
00:32:07.840 um judy lindsey a part of the dar said it appears to me that leadership unilaterally decided to
00:32:15.940 allow males and then try to hide it from the membership a 2025 letter from the center of
00:32:21.220 american liberty signed by assistant attorney general harmeet dylan whom we've had on the
00:32:24.720 show recently revealed that the organization didn't need to admit males to keep its tax
00:32:29.260 exempt status that was the excuse that they made oh we have to do this this is what we have to do
00:32:33.800 We have to allow males in to make sure that we can still function as a nonprofit.
00:32:38.100 Harmeet Dillon says, no, that's not true.
00:32:40.040 Not only does the DAR have a constitutional right to pass such an amendment, so pass an
00:32:44.860 amendment that would protect this being a female-only organization, but doing so would 0.98
00:32:49.800 ensure the organization stays true to its roots as a genealogical, so biology matters,
00:32:55.120 genealogical society for women only.
00:32:57.660 We encourage the board to allow the proposed amendment to proceed.
00:33:00.260 But even after D.A.R. leadership received the letter back in January of twenty five, the D.A.R. National Board of Management rejected a proposal to bar males from joining.
00:33:09.180 Then the Dodgers advocating for restoration drafted a new proposal to accommodate for boards concerns, which brings us to this year's assembly where the amendment was struck down.
00:33:19.540 The battle will actually continue in October because ninety six chapters in thirty three states have formally requested a special meeting to vote on and discuss the issue.
00:33:28.100 The president general is now required by the DAR bylaws to call a special meeting for October 11th,
00:33:34.440 2026. Okay. So one day after share the arrows this fall, maybe all of you members of the DAR,
00:33:42.260 I don't know where this special meeting is happening, but all of you who are fighting
00:33:46.420 for the recognition of women to have our own spaces, the acknowledgement of biology
00:33:52.860 in an organization that supposedly cares about your DNA, genealogy, hello. Maybe you should come
00:34:00.600 to share the arrows. Maybe we'll have a special discount for members of the DAR who are fighting
00:34:06.260 for truth because you will feel rallied. You know what? Maybe I'm going to, I have an idea. I can't
00:34:13.840 even say what the idea is. I can't even say what the idea is, but I have an idea. We're going to,
00:34:18.920 we're going to share your arrows. We're going to have your back. If you are a member of the DAR
00:34:22.780 fighting for truth, we are going to have your back at share the arrows. So good for all of you
00:34:28.380 who are speaking what is good, right, and true. Even if you lose, it matters. It advances the
00:34:33.400 kingdom and you are doing everything you can to protect your daughters and your granddaughter's 0.90
00:34:39.560 right to sex exclusive spaces. And you were refusing to say two plus two equals five. And
00:34:44.520 that matters. That matters. Everything matters in the life of a believer. This also matters in the
00:34:49.720 future of our country. Genesis 127, very, very clear. The definition of gender is just like the
00:34:56.880 definition of marriage as we've used this alliteration many times over the years. It's
00:35:00.480 rooted in creation. Genesis 127, reiterated throughout scripture, honor your father and
00:35:05.700 mother, repeated by Jesus himself, Matthew 19, four through five. The definition of marriage
00:35:11.520 is gendered between one male, one female. And that's in Ephesians five, that is representative.
00:35:17.620 It's another art of Christ and the church, which is reflective of the gospel. The Bible starts with
00:35:22.900 the marriage and ends with a marriage. And that marriage is between one man and one woman and is 0.91
00:35:27.460 meant to reflect the heavenly marriage between Christ and his bride. That's how much gender 0.94
00:35:32.460 matters. That's how much biology matters. That's how much marriage matters. That's why when we get 1.00
00:35:37.640 the gender things wrong, when we get the marriage things wrong, people end up forsaking other
00:35:42.840 doctrines and ultimately very often end up forsaking the gospel altogether. Because if you 0.99
00:35:47.560 can't get Genesis 1 right, then that's not even controversial. We can see that under a microscope.
00:35:54.560 What someone's sex is, what someone's DNA is, we can analyze that scientifically. What's much more
00:36:01.300 controversial is John 14, 6, that Jesus is the only way, only truth, only life, that no one
00:36:05.940 come to the father except through him. So if you're going to forsake the obvious thing,
00:36:10.760 of course, you're going to forsake the much more controversial truth, which is the gospel.
00:36:16.760 Speaking of the gospel, we have a very popular TikTok influencer who has now turned to Christ,
00:36:23.320 and she is already counting the cost of that. She is a very famous or was a tarot card reader.
00:36:29.200 So very into being a so-called psychic or a medium and communicating with the dead and
00:36:39.320 gained a huge following on TikTok based on this.
00:36:42.220 And now she has said that she has come to Christ and this was not well received.
00:36:46.980 So speaking of sharing the arrows for people who are standing for Christ, we're going to
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00:38:16.100 so this former tarot card reader she was known as alex reads tarot she recently announced that
00:38:28.040 she has become a christian here she is that too i know that some people may find this decision
00:38:34.200 surprising and some people may wonder how i can be saying this after spending years of doing the
00:38:40.200 work that I've done, doing it professionally, but all I can do is be honest. I am not going
00:38:46.220 to be offering any more readings or sessions. I'm not going to be creating any more tarot content
00:38:52.080 and once this account is gone, I will not be returning. And I don't know exactly what comes
00:38:59.380 next for me, but what I do know is that Jesus Christ has saved my life and I can no longer
00:39:07.020 ignore that reality okay so this video that she posts on tiktok is about 10 minutes long where
00:39:14.360 she's just explaining her testimony and this about face to her audience she was a pillar of
00:39:21.040 what's called witch talk she had nearly 1 million followers she deleted all of her tarot related
00:39:26.380 content said she would no longer create social media videos she explained that her change of
00:39:31.160 heart wasn't something that was sudden but it happened gradually over the past year as her
00:39:35.200 faith in Jesus grew. As her beliefs deepened, she found herself wrestling with questions she
00:39:39.520 could no longer ignore. And this is so important. We've talked about this before. Someone who
00:39:44.700 professes to be a Christian is a new believer, but you still see them doing things that Christians 1.00
00:39:49.140 should not do. You still see them thinking and saying things, following people that Christians 1.00
00:39:53.880 should not think, say, follow, whatever. That doesn't necessarily mean that person is not a
00:39:59.900 Christian. We can't judge them according to the faith of someone who has been a Christian for 10,
00:40:04.700 20, 30 years. They could just be a new Christian and they are being sanctified. And that doesn't
00:40:10.580 mean we shouldn't speak the truth and love to them, but it also doesn't mean that we should
00:40:14.560 just discount them as not a real Christian. Now, the people who have been Christians for a period
00:40:18.800 of time are using their platform to say things like all homosexuality was added to the Bible
00:40:22.740 until 1946, trying to lead people astray about things that just aren't true biblically. I don't
00:40:29.060 have patience for those people, not that the Lord can't redeem them, save them, and all of that. 1.00
00:40:34.240 But those who are new Christians, who maybe she continued to put tarot reading videos
00:40:39.220 out after she became a Christian, but was still learning, we have a lot of compassion
00:40:43.980 for that.
00:40:44.460 I talk about how when I first became a Christian, I read everyone.
00:40:48.280 I thought that every author who professed to be a Christian, from Rob Bell and Stephen
00:40:52.440 Furtick and Joel Osteen, and also at the same time, John Piper and C.S. Lewis and John MacArthur,
00:41:00.000 I thought that they were all on the same level, that they were just bringing different things
00:41:03.220 to the table, but that they were all equally valid and true. That's what I believed when I
00:41:07.080 was beginning my faith. That wasn't true, but I was a Christian. I was hungry, and I was just
00:41:11.960 trying to consume as much information as possible. I probably said and thought and believed things,
00:41:17.100 you know, at the time that weren't actually true, but thank the Lord for His grace, for His
00:41:21.160 sanctification, for His faithfulness and persistence in bringing us into the truth.
00:41:25.900 What brought me into the truth? Yes, of course, Holy Spirit, discernment, friends, community,
00:41:31.080 all of that, college Bible studies, but also just the word of God, getting more into reading
00:41:36.500 scripture, studying scripture for myself and asking myself, what does this really mean?
00:41:41.640 Letting scripture, interpreting scripture, interpret scripture and all of that. And so
00:41:45.340 we have to pray for her. We have to pray for her and also pray for everyone who professes to be a
00:41:50.800 Christian, but doesn't seem to be living in a way that is matching up to that. And I just thank the
00:41:55.520 Lord that there were people in her life who spoke the truth and love to her and for the Holy Spirit's
00:41:58.860 work in her life. She also says something I think is really profound, that she is inspired by Christ's
00:42:07.020 suffering. I don't hear a lot of Christians talking like this. Sometimes we can hear a story
00:42:12.520 so many times a year, so often in our lives, that we actually forget the depth and the reality of
00:42:19.560 that. They tore his clothes, his flesh was stripped from his body, his organs were hanging out his
00:42:27.540 entrails he had a crown of thorns that pierced into his brain no i don't mind i don't mind when
00:42:36.420 the world hates me i don't mind when people mock me i don't mind when people tell lies
00:42:44.420 i don't mind conspiracy because
00:42:48.440 nothing compares to the sacrifice that jesus made nothing will ever compare
00:42:57.540 So it looks like she's got a new account there, Alex Courage in Christ.
00:43:01.960 She's talking about her repentance.
00:43:05.180 She's talking about her journey.
00:43:06.780 We did ask Alex to come on.
00:43:08.320 I'm sure she's overwhelmed by all kinds of messages right now.
00:43:11.060 We'd still love that.
00:43:11.940 We're talking about the story, but I love talking to people about their testimonies.
00:43:16.620 Not everyone was excited to see this change.
00:43:19.820 She lost over 40,000 followers when she announced that she was becoming a Christian and that
00:43:24.940 she'd be changing her content just to tell you how central she was to this world. There's a song
00:43:31.820 by Hayley Williams. She's a popular pop star called love me different. And she actually
00:43:36.240 references this creator endless scrolling up till three. Alex reads tarot reads the S out of me.
00:43:43.440 Okay. So this was someone who was super popular. Um, Williams changed the lyrics in her recent show
00:43:52.200 in response to this, Alex reads tarot. Oh, my G-O-D-R-I-P. Okay. So Haley Williams, I guess,
00:44:00.900 is part of Paramore. I forgot about that. I was never a Paramore person. Comments from the thread
00:44:08.060 on the subreddit on Reddit, tarot readers of Reddit said, I'm all for people exploring their
00:44:14.960 own spirituality, but I felt so disappointed when she said Jesus Christ saved my life or whatever
00:44:19.060 she said basic christianity uh she used to seem so open about everything she could have at least
00:44:24.960 left her videos up since they seem to genuinely help people but of course not and someone like
00:44:29.900 this who is not a christian on reddit like clearly just like doesn't understand is that
00:44:34.740 light can't have fellowship with darkness and eventually the light crowds out the darkness
00:44:38.580 you can't practice witchcraft and promote witchcraft and also be walking with christ
00:44:43.440 a sudden pivot to christianity another redditor says is never a good sign of my experience my
00:44:48.500 sister-in-law is a born-again Christian and nonstop talks about Jesus. Shout out, sister-in-law.
00:44:53.320 It all came from a mental breakdown she had a few years back and hasn't been the same since. Yeah.
00:44:57.880 Sometimes the Lord saves us when we hit our lowest and we realize nothing else is working.
00:45:03.040 And the Lord is like, I'm here. I've always been here. Something seems off with Alex. I hope she's
00:45:08.680 okay. People always say this. People always say this. What do we see in the early church? They
00:45:12.680 thought the people in the early church were drunk because of what they were saying through the Holy
00:45:17.160 Spirit. Um, people always think that there's something off with Christians because they have 0.97
00:45:24.020 a faith that can't in something that can't be seen and it can't be understood. First Corinthians one
00:45:28.940 explains all of this, that what seems like foolishness to the world is wisdom in the eyes
00:45:33.200 of the Lord. And the Lord purposely uses what seems like foolishness to the world to show his
00:45:37.700 wisdom. Um, another editor says my thing is that tarot comes from Christianity. Nope. Nope. It has
00:45:46.120 evolved over a long time to fit many religious beliefs. If she simply does not feel connected to
00:45:50.560 God the divine and doesn't feel as though tarot is her calling anymore, she's allowed to. I feel
00:45:57.580 like influencers always make a video explaining a dramatic shift in content and that's all she was
00:46:02.120 doing. It's okay that people don't understand it. There are a lot harsher posts too and a lot
00:46:06.840 harsher comments that I won't read. There were also a lot of supportive comments on TikTok. I
00:46:10.520 mean, her video had like 17,000 comments on it. And a lot of people were saying, yeah, I used to
00:46:16.940 practice witchcraft and the Lord saved me. Welcome all of these very beautiful things. So please pray
00:46:22.780 for Alex, share her errors. Even if we never get to talk to her on this show, that's okay. Pray for
00:46:28.300 her. Um, if you can find a way to send encouraging words to her, the most important thing for any new
00:46:33.760 Christian, including for Alex, join a Bible preaching Bible, believing unapologetic, uh,
00:46:39.960 local church, get involved in Bible study, get involved in your church, get involved in,
00:46:44.220 you know, serving in the welcome team, something that you can do to use your presence and to use
00:46:49.840 your gifts, to be able to help other people and serve other people. Um, what I always like
00:46:56.640 caution against that I am not dictating the Lord's path for someone. And so I don't know exactly what
00:47:02.820 it's going to look like for the Lord to use her testimony in a way of redemption, which I think
00:47:06.460 is beautiful and wonderful. The Lord does that all the time, but I do get a little bit worried
00:47:12.660 about a quick change in content and becoming a different kind of content creator right away.
00:47:20.320 Again, I can't say that that's wrong in every single situation. I'm not judging someone's heart
00:47:26.060 who does that. I think it brings with it all different kinds of layers of confusion and
00:47:31.040 complication when you are early on in your faith. I do think that there is something beautiful
00:47:36.620 about taking a beat and taking a break. I thought the same thing about Kanye West at the time,
00:47:45.640 even though there were some really good things, gospel music that came out of his
00:47:49.520 seeming conversion at the time. I also think that there is just a lot of sanctification that happens
00:47:59.240 in solitude, not actual solitude, not like isolation away from the local body, but away
00:48:06.060 from all of the demands of social media, because the demands themselves don't change.
00:48:11.420 And I do think can just muddy the waters a little bit when you are first stepping out
00:48:19.280 in faith. And so there's nothing wrong with taking a step back and just saying, look,
00:48:24.820 I've counted the cost. I'm willing to give it all up and not just change the moniker,
00:48:29.900 not just change the audience, but truly like take a step back for a period of time and just
00:48:36.500 be with the Lord about things. Again, it's not, you know, it's not my rules. I'm not saying that
00:48:42.260 comes necessarily as a dictate from scripture, but I've just seen that a lot. And I think there
00:48:47.440 is wisdom in taking a step back altogether. Pray for Alex, pray that the Holy Spirit would fill
00:48:53.080 her with a piece that passes all understanding would give her the strength that's needed.
00:48:56.580 Sounds like she truly did count the cost and said, okay, I'm making money off of this. That's
00:49:01.100 so hard. The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. People who are making money from
00:49:05.860 nasty content, from bad, you know, sinful content, it's so hard for them to give that up because a
00:49:11.920 lot of people mistake money and success for favor from the Lord. And that's not what it is. So
00:49:16.280 good for her. Good for her. All right. We've got a lifestyle pitter patter segment in just a
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00:50:22.320 okay we're going to do two lifestyle pitter patters today is it lifestyles pitter patter
00:50:42.760 is it lifestyle pitter's patter we'll go with that we'll go with lifestyle pitter's patter
00:50:47.480 we're going to do two things today one are just it's just like my own thoughts about things that
00:50:52.080 is like so kind of superficial and silly, but I might tie into something deeper. And the other
00:50:57.320 one is you could call it not even just lifestyle pitter patter. It's like actual cultural critique
00:51:02.680 of something crazy happened, but also super relatable by the second lady of the United
00:51:06.760 States, Usha Vance. So let me tell you what happened and her just kind of master trolling 1.00
00:51:12.580 on X. That was just great. So the New York Times published an article titled Usha Vance and the 0.95
00:51:17.580 power of the pregnant image about how the pregnancies of Usha Vance, Caroline Leavitt
00:51:22.760 and Katie Miller, Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife have become a powerful part of the Trump
00:51:28.220 administration's public image. Vanessa Friedman, the author claims these pregnancies symbolically
00:51:32.960 reinforce the administration's emphasis on the pronatalist movement, pushing family motherhood
00:51:36.960 and higher birth rates. If that is the case, amazing job. Like that's brilliant marketing.
00:51:43.640 Okay. That's like as real as it gets. But actually the truth is, is that the Trump administration
00:51:50.860 and MAGA in general is young. Like it is a younger movement. I'm not saying all of the
00:51:57.340 youth is MAGA. Obviously the youth is still predominantly Gen Z, but you got a lot of young
00:52:02.580 people. I love it. Like these are people my age. I think all of those people might be a little bit
00:52:07.140 older, except for Caroline. She might be a couple of years younger than me. But we're all kind of
00:52:12.380 like the same generation in the same stage of life, having kids, that's cool. Not that I'm
00:52:17.260 someone who needs representation. I just want the best people to be in charge, but it's fun. Like I
00:52:23.240 was actually talking to my family about interviewing JD Vance the other day. And one of the things I
00:52:28.100 find relatable about him is that he's got like, and I say this in the most respectful way possible,
00:52:32.780 but he's got like the tired dad thing going on. I know that he's tired, you know, just from all
00:52:38.800 the responsibilities of being the vice president of the United States. And by the way, like
00:52:42.740 very energetic too, but also like, there's just something about having little kids that in the
00:52:50.560 best way possible can run you ragged in addition to all of the, you know, other obligations that
00:52:55.940 he has and that he just has that unmistakable mark about him that he's got little kids running
00:53:01.220 around all of the time. And there's something charming about that. There's something very
00:53:04.940 relatable about that, refreshing, rejuvenating. You want people who have a stake in the future
00:53:10.980 of the country. And that, by the way, isn't just true of parents of young kids. That's true of
00:53:16.100 grandparents, parents of older kids and things like that. But you just, you can see it tangibly.
00:53:22.100 And when all of the chaos is happening and you're looking in the eyes of your little kid and you
00:53:25.940 are thinking, what kind of country do I want you to inherit? I want the people making decisions
00:53:30.580 to be able to at least understand what that is like. So anyway, I like it. The New York Times,
00:53:37.420 maybe not so much. If the bare chested, she says, bare chested, muscled mixed martial arts
00:53:43.180 fighters at the UFC match that President Trump posted on Flag Day were the poster guys for the 0.50
00:53:47.720 magus image of masculinity, which I'm not sure that's true, then the pregnant women of Trump 0.98
00:53:53.100 world are one half of their feminine counterparts. They offer an image of idealized womanhood that 0.90
00:53:57.920 gives literal shape to the pro natalist movement. All right. I think we're thinking a little too
00:54:02.620 deeply about this, but okay. So what this author emphasizes is that the women of the Trump
00:54:08.380 administration are not hiding their pregnancies. She claims that there were, um, you know, 0.81
00:54:14.320 mothers of the past, like Jackie Kennedy or Sherry Blair, um, that they wore looser fitting things.
00:54:21.600 And actually we'll put up some of the pictures. She puts up Jackie Kennedy, what she was wearing.
00:54:26.860 she was wearing like an oversized coat. It looks like in winter. And then the British Prime 0.92
00:54:31.460 Minister, Tony Blair and his pregnant wife, Sherry in 2000, apparently that's what pregnancy used to
00:54:37.520 look like. And then she contrasts that with some other pictures that we'll put up of, for example,
00:54:42.980 Usha Vance. She's wearing a tighter dress, very modest and beautiful, but obviously shows off 0.89
00:54:48.240 her belly bump the same way with Katie Miller and the same way with Caroline Levitt. All of them
00:54:54.500 are wearing tighter fitting dresses. Now she tries really hard to go deeply into this to say that
00:55:00.160 this has to do with promoting fertility rates, which may be so, but this is also a change in
00:55:05.140 style. She is trying to contrast style in the 1960s in 2000 to today. And by the way, objectively,
00:55:13.800 Usha Vance looks better than Sherry Blair did. That just wasn't a flattering outfit at all.
00:55:18.220 I think a lot of women have found that actually accentuating the bump or being able to show that 0.99
00:55:22.820 is more flattering than wearing things, especially when you get bigger that look like a tent. I
00:55:27.980 really don't think it's all that deep, but I actually love the secondary effect of them
00:55:33.480 promoting pregnancy, that it's not something to be embarrassed about. It's not something to be
00:55:36.940 ashamed of. Some older generations still kind of think that it's not something to hide. Um,
00:55:41.460 and it's not something that holds you back. So the author says, forget the maternity moo moo, 1.00
00:55:45.440 forget body con. This is baby con in case you missed it. The hand serves to focus the eye. 0.95
00:55:51.520 And so because Usha Vance has kind of cradled her stomach, her womb, apparently that is 0.90
00:55:58.000 supposed to, she's showing off her baby bump. 0.89
00:56:02.460 She talks to feminist author, Helen Lewis. 1.00
00:56:05.320 This author does.
00:56:05.980 It's really noticeable that the MAGA women are not hiding their pregnancy.
00:56:09.840 There is pride in being pregnant and being fertile.
00:56:13.060 They're modeling the idea, she said, that one of the ways women can hold power is by
00:56:17.240 being mothers and leaning into the imagery of that.
00:56:21.200 OK, it's just too much. You're thinking too hard. It's really not that deep. Now, Usha Vance,
00:56:28.640 the second lady, she responded on Axe. Now that we know the political significance of my $8.75 0.82
00:56:36.700 coral maternity dress from Old Navy, can't wait to hear what the New York Times has to say about
00:56:41.320 my elastic waistband pants and compressed socks. In the meantime, enjoy my pregnancy fashion or
00:56:45.580 lack thereof and a good story with your kids on story time with the second lady. And she posts 1.00
00:56:49.620 this picture. Um, well you can see, we'll put up the picture of her actually in story time when you
00:56:54.980 can see her in this maternity dress, but then she posts a picture of her receipt buying this old
00:57:00.520 Navy maternity asymmetrical shoulder maxi dress. And it is not only it started out at 12 49 because
00:57:09.220 it was on sale. And then she used a promo code to knock off $3 and 74 cents. So she bought eight, 0.95
00:57:15.840 an $8 75 cent maternity dress, which looked amazing on her, by the way. Um, she's just 0.85
00:57:22.800 trying to make the point again. It's not that deep. I bought a dress that was super affordable
00:57:27.580 and that I could fit. And that's all it's not some marketing scheme to promote fertility.
00:57:34.600 JD Vance. She bought a $50 dress for $8 and 75 cents. America meet your next director of 1.00
00:57:40.280 the federal budget. That is amazing. So thank you, Usha Vance, for making light of that. And thank
00:57:46.720 you to the New York Times for spending all of your time and your resources, your time and treasure
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00:58:47.760 Okay, let's do a second lifestyle pitter-patter.
00:58:50.060 This is like really superficial, okay?
00:58:52.720 It has nothing to do with the first lifestyle pitter-patter, but I was thinking about this
00:58:56.320 yesterday. 0.78
00:58:57.660 Okay, I was thinking about this yesterday, and this is my challenge to you women.
00:59:02.860 Not, this really doesn't, this really doesn't relate to the related bros at all, but let
00:59:07.560 me challenge you. Okay. When's the last time, this is the most pitter of pattern. When is the last
00:59:13.840 time that you've gone to get your hair done or you've gone to get your nails done or something
00:59:17.840 and you have just said it's fine and left. And then you're like mad for the next two weeks
00:59:22.860 because you don't like it. And you keep on looking in the mirror and you're like, why did I leave
00:59:27.260 like this? My hair looks bad. I don't like it. I don't like my haircut. I don't like my hair color.
00:59:31.160 I don't like my nails. And you just paid really good money that you have been saving that you
00:59:36.020 could have spent on other things. You spent how many hours in the chair getting those things done
00:59:40.380 and you leave unhappy because you are too scared to feel awkward. Okay. I actually think that there
00:59:45.840 is something deeper here, that there is an exercise to be had in overcoming the awkwardness
00:59:51.320 to say something that you need to say. Okay. I have learned, this has taken me a very long time
00:59:57.320 to learn and to practice myself. If you are paying for something, if you are spending your
01:00:02.760 time to do something, you should nicely, kindly, politely make sure to articulate the problem and
01:00:09.620 leave there happy. Okay. Just do it. Even if it takes an extra 15 minutes, even if it's a little
01:00:15.540 bit awkward, even if the person is offended, even if the person gets defensive, if you don't like
01:00:20.700 those highlights, do not leave that chair until there are the way that you want them. You spent
01:00:26.220 way too much money. I won't even say it out loud in case there's a relatable out there that doesn't
01:00:31.660 need to know how much your wife just spent on highlights. You just spent way too much money, 1.00
01:00:35.880 way too much time to leave there sad and to not like how it looks every time you look in the
01:00:39.480 mirror. I've done that so many times. Overcome the awkwardness, be kind about it, say you don't like
01:00:45.100 it and get it down the correct way. Same thing with your nails. I had to have this conversation
01:00:50.780 yesterday in a very sweet, but very pointed way that I needed something fixed on my neck. And you
01:00:56.240 know what? Previous me would have just laughed and I would have just been mad about it. The reason
01:01:00.620 why I think that's important. One, because we should all be exercising, saying something that
01:01:04.280 we need to say, even when it's awkward, because there are much bigger situations in which we'll
01:01:09.580 have to do that. And I actually think the little trivial times can give us practice for overcoming
01:01:13.620 that awkwardness and just saying the thing that needs to be said truthfully and kindly.
01:01:18.200 But also it has the potential. If you don't do that, your heart could be stirred up in resentment
01:01:24.180 and in gratitude for the rest of the week, because you're like, why didn't I just say
01:01:27.840 something. And every time I look at my nails or look at my hair, I don't like it. Okay. So it's
01:01:32.580 actually, I think a sign of maturity and self-assurance to be able to just say, you know
01:01:37.480 what, I'm going to steward my money and my time well, and make sure that I'm fully satisfied
01:01:41.420 customer when I leave this place. Okay. I told you it's a pitter of patter, the pitterest of
01:01:47.340 patterest, but I actually think that it's like kind of important. I think too many people are
01:01:52.200 too caught up with being people pleasers. And then you end up just mad that people didn't please you
01:01:57.120 and people didn't do what you wanted to do, that's no way to live. I'm so glad that I asked
01:02:02.320 the nail tech just to move my nail polish down just a little bit because now I really like my
01:02:07.160 nails and before I did it. So now I'm happy. Okay. All right. That's all the lifestyle pitter
01:02:12.180 patter. That's everything we have today. We will not be here on Friday because we will be celebrating
01:02:15.720 the 4th of July. Who knows what the whole relatable team will be doing. We will be
01:02:21.040 celebrating with fireworks and all of that good stuff. And then next week will be different too.
01:02:25.460 We won't be actively recording new episodes.
01:02:28.120 We might have some in the bank that we'll put out, but next week I'll be a little bit
01:02:31.500 different for the Relatable team.
01:02:33.400 Then we'll be back in action the following week.
01:02:35.380 I will see you guys back here then.
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