00:03:25.220Maybe people come out of the university with separate dorms segregated by race, called theme houses, separate graduations.
00:03:34.120No First Amendment, Second Amendment, First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth Amendment rights when you're accused of something on campus.
00:03:42.660Maybe a 95 percent bias of the faculty. So the universities, maybe we don't need 300,000 federal employees. Maybe we should, if the media continues to, especially PBS or NPR continues to give false narratives, maybe we should defund them.
00:04:03.180So these are pretty radical counter-revolutionary movements, and they're aimed really at changing the entire structure that produced the symptoms of hard-left progressivism, rather than in the first term or in some other Republican administrations.
00:04:20.320They sort of trimmed around the edges, or they said, we shouldn't do this, or we will vote against this nominee.
00:04:26.680But now they're addressing the very idea of progressivism and how it became so influential.
00:04:33.180It is an interesting question that right now as we speak, the left does not control the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, or the White House, and yet it still exercises enormous cultural, institutional, bureaucratic influences.
00:04:50.020And that's what I think they're trying to address.
00:04:51.960how did you react to the reaction to doge because a lot of what you're talking about it i see doge's
00:05:01.840role in countering those things and the bureaucratic bloat and the funding of the sources
00:05:08.320of misinformation and disinformation that are really harming us obviously that was an endeavor
00:05:14.280by elon musk the response to that not just by those in academia and those in the liberal media
00:05:19.880who probably know exactly why they're reacting the way that they are
00:05:23.820because they don't like the counter-revolution,
00:05:26.160but a lot of just normal everyday people.
00:05:28.700How terrible is it that we would defund USAID?
00:05:31.440I can't believe that we want kids in Haiti to be struggling or eating less.
00:05:36.100I can't believe we're taking money away from cancer research and Uganda
00:05:49.880It didn't surprise me. It did surprise me that the Doge people didn't anticipate it because the left for many years has operated under the premise of a binary that 70% of the country are oppressors and 30% are oppressed, victimized versus the victimizers.
00:06:12.060And so anytime you try to make fundamental changes in the progressive project, they're always going to say it's a war against the entitled, the white, the heterosexual, the male, the Christian, whatever formula they use versus the innocence.
00:06:28.280And that just is expected on spec. It kicked in. So when you basically eliminated what is now 300,000 jobs, people said, well, Joe Smith doesn't have a job because Donald Trump doesn't care whether he can feed his family or USAID.
00:06:47.340everybody's going to die in Africa because they're not going to get vaccinations,
00:06:50.960even though Bill Gates' multi-billion plan had vaccinated hundreds of millions of people worldwide.
00:07:00.740So I didn't think they would, they didn't have a, I guess I would say a tragic view of that,
00:09:52.920I mean, it's good that they were stalwart in face of criticism and kept doing it, and we all admire that, but they didn't address what were obvious therapeutic talking points by the left.
00:10:06.100The first one was, well, this isn't really a crime, it's a civil infraction.
00:10:11.080In fact, it is a crime, whatever gradation you say it is, it is a crime.
00:10:17.400And then they didn't say, if it wasn't a crime, then why wouldn't people, we wouldn't have a border.
00:10:22.920the only way we can have a border is we enforce the boundary and then we deport people who broke
00:10:29.600the law. And they could have said things like, when you're in an airport security line coming
00:10:35.640in from a different country and somebody doesn't have a passport, they don't let them in the
00:10:39.760country. Or they'll take them into a special room and say, you don't have a visa in your country.
00:10:46.020They didn't try to explain any of that. And then they didn't give any historical context.
00:10:51.020They said, we love immigrants, but we've never had 16 and a half, 17% of the population non-native born.
00:10:58.100We've never had 55 million people here of various statuses that weren't born in America.
00:11:04.280So we want meritocratic, diverse, legal, and self-supporting immigrants.
00:11:13.900But what's happening is the most fundamental revolutionary act in our recent history.
00:11:19.040And it's a cynical ploy of the Democrats to grow government, get a needy constituency, because the majority of these people are coming in unaudited, without background checks, with enormous needs in health, education, legal representation, housing, food.
00:11:37.120And that is part of the progressive project.
00:11:40.980Instead, the left just said, well, this is the great replacement theory, the white paranoia, and they didn't – so I don't fault their enthusiasm and their zealousness was absolutely necessary given Republican administrations of the past were lacking in wine.0.57
00:12:00.320But they could have predicted what the left was going to say, especially since the left-wing agenda is really a 70-30 issue in most cases, and they're on the 30% end.0.62
00:12:16.200So they have two remedies, or two or three.
00:12:19.020One is, as we said, to use the institutional power of the bureaucracy and the media in lieu of actual political support to advance this agenda.
00:12:27.020but the second is to be frank is to change the demography if you look at canada a lot of the
00:12:33.680problems we're having with canada is that it's the most endowed naturally endowed country in
00:12:40.800the world essentially second largest area in the world after russia it should be one of the
00:12:46.580wealthiest countries in the world but it has a retrograde socialist paradigm and it's got one
00:12:54.320percent growth for 10 years and you ask why it does and you look and see that 27 percent of the
00:12:59.620present candidate canadian population was not born in canada another seven million parents were not
00:13:06.640born in canada and then you have two million visa holders and you add up all those people
00:13:14.400who are either first generation or second generation residents and they almost 46 percent
00:13:20.980of the population and they have enormous needs in a western therapeutic country to give them
00:13:27.480vast layers of support you know from education to food and housing as i said and so they're they're
00:13:33.980just incapable given they won't they've adopted a socialist agenda about energy use and public
00:13:41.680beneficia that they're not able to meet their nato requirements they're not able to not run
00:13:48.120surplus with us and we we don't talk about this right now the biggest crisis i think in the western
00:13:56.400world it's part of a therapeutic epidemic but it's the inability to say that we are a distinct nation
00:14:03.700with distinct history and protocols and values and constitutions and if you want to come here
00:14:10.100you're going to have to assimilate integrate um and adopt our culture and we can't we don't have
00:14:17.900the confidence to do that and that's part and they people like uh the president fire president
00:14:23.760of mexico was obador was bragging he said it's a beautiful thing we sent 40 million people and
00:14:29.560they welcomed them all in and now we're the biggest minority and what he was saying is we
00:14:34.800do not want our people to be fully assimilated because they are powerful constituency in foreign
00:14:41.220relations that for our benefit and they send back 65 billion dollars a year as our chief source of
00:14:48.420foreign revenue and basically they're subsidized by the federal government through various welfare
00:14:54.640programs to free up the cash to send to us so we don't ever say these are cynical ploys by these
00:15:01.300other countries to really in a cruel fashion consider humans as an export commodity and we
00:15:08.900should have taken those arguments and had the higher moral ground.
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00:16:51.300today. At what point do you think America lost our national identity? At what stage did at least
00:17:06.440a lot of people say, okay, you know what? America's nothing to brag about. Western0.97
00:17:12.600civilization is nothing to be proud of. We're totally fine with a Somalian person being proud
00:17:18.100of their culture, whether they're in Somalia or whether they're in Michigan. And we would never,
00:17:24.140I would never, of course, I don't even think, you know, no liberal white person would go to Somalia
00:17:28.500and plant their flag there and say, conform to me, give money to me. You need to accommodate me.
00:17:35.000And I want you to change based on what I think they would call that, you know, white supremacy.
00:17:41.120It's really only America and Western and majority white countries that have this kind of guilt
00:17:47.480complex that makes us say patriotism is wrong, but only in our case, but it hasn't always been
00:17:54.600that way. So can you identify a time when their revolution, the progressive revolution
00:18:00.580that really culminated in progressives, if I can say it's uncharitable, but like
00:18:06.920hating America largely and convincing so many people that you should not be proud of your
00:18:12.880national identity. When was that? Well, it started in the 60s. I'm going to be 73
00:18:20.540in a few days. And I went to a newly opened campus, University of California at Santa Cruz.
00:18:28.180And I came from a very culturally conservative family here on the farm in which I'm speaking.
00:18:33.920And when my father dropped me off at the dorm, as he walked in, on one side was a picture of
00:18:41.020Che Guevara. And on the other side of the dorm wall was Mao. And as we drove up to the campus,
00:18:49.200there was a traffic jam because the students for a democratic society was blocking the roads,
00:18:55.460trying to tell the parents that America was a horrible place and killing thousands of
00:19:01.400innocent Vietnamese. So it started, it's happened before. It's innate to Western civilization. If
00:19:08.260you go back to classical texts there are a lot of people who romans and greeks who attack their0.99
00:19:13.780own society as sort of the cost of a free self-critical society which is good but that
00:19:21.080goes to extremes uh on certain occasions and in cycles and we're in about a 50-year cycle now
00:19:27.480where legitimate criticism ends up into pathological hatred and that started in the
00:19:34.04060s and then the 12 years of reagan and the two and george hw bush kind of calmed it down but i
00:19:41.420don't think we give credit enough to barack obama because what he did he didn't just give the
00:19:47.300global's view that we're not exceptional we're just like greece or britain and he didn't just
00:19:52.500do the apology tour. He took the old 11% black, 89% white binary, and he redefined it without any
00:20:06.400attention to class. So he said, if you're not white, we're not going to talk about affirmative
00:20:12.840action. We're going to talk about diversity, equity, and inclusion. And in this binary,
00:20:19.280You can be a rich Indian. You can come from one of the wealthiest families in Kuwait. You can be one of the direct descendants of the Spanish conquistadors in Mexico. You can be blue eyes in Argentina. You can be worth all sorts, but you have a claim against the majority because you're oppressed.
00:20:40.640and that really spurred this idea and what was lost was class so all of a sudden we had this
00:20:48.440ridiculous situation today where somebody who's impoverished in east palestine ohio that the
00:20:54.280government just ignores when they have a toxic fume they're considered privileged and they have0.93
00:20:59.780nothing because they're white and then we have people like hassan piker and his porsche or el0.58
00:21:05.420Seyyid with $600,000 income or the Mondamis who were settler colonialist in Uganda, 1% of the
00:21:12.980Ugandan population controlling 65% of the wealth were Indian nationals and they're victims. And0.60
00:21:20.720then they start talking about white, white, white. And nobody really questioned that, but it was0.84
00:21:26.000Obama who took that energy of the 60s and he formulated, he institutionalized it. And then
00:21:32.320the Biden who was a waxing effigy that Obama team then really went into action under the guise of
00:21:39.380good old Joe Biden from Scranton that four years and they were very brilliant and they did things
00:21:46.900they understood that they were not dealing with the symptoms of conservatism they were going at
00:21:51.880the heart of it they were trying to change the ballot laws in most of the states under the guise
00:21:56.020of COVID. So we went from 70% in election day voting, where you can actually have ID and check
00:22:05.020people off a list, to 70% mail-in or early voting, where there was not much chance. They tried to
00:22:11.880fundamentally change the system, and they still are, because they want to go to the symptoms of
00:22:17.400conservative traditional power of the United States. And that's what DEI does, and that's what
00:22:23.400k-12 does that's what the universities do that's what the foundations do that's what the corporate0.80
00:22:27.800boardrooms do so what's scary just to finish is that this what was a motley group group of west0.93
00:22:36.440when i was in college they were pretty pathetic these rich kids running around with long hair0.91
00:22:42.180and wire rim glasses and malcaps and spouting uh chanting that they love castro but and then they0.96
00:22:51.500were in the wilderness in the 70s and 80s and then they re-emerged their children and some cases
00:22:57.400their grandchildren and they they got smart and they seized the institutional power so i think
00:23:04.060obama was the watershed period where he mainstreamed being very hard being left spread the wealth
00:23:10.560you didn't build that all that stuff started with obama
00:23:14.680mm-hmm yeah it's interesting i remember there is this study and maybe there's an updated one now
00:23:22.400but it was pew research from and it was in 2017 and it was analyzing the polarization in politics
00:23:29.360and where those who identify as democrat and those who identify as republican had gone on each issue
00:23:35.980since i think it was maybe 1995 and on every single issue the left had moved further to the
00:23:42.740left on every cultural and political issue that they looked for. Whereas the right stayed the
00:23:47.240same, maybe a little bit more conservative on some things, but on immigration, on guns, on
00:23:52.800homosexuality actually had become first for sure on a sexual and cultural issues. Republicans had
00:23:58.920actually become more liberal. Um, but for the most part, they stayed the same. The left on
00:24:03.720every single issue got much, much further to the left. And yet when you talk to someone who is
00:24:10.600progressive. It seems like they believe, well, no, no, no, no. We've always been this way.
00:24:16.920We've always thought these things. It's actually Trump who is the great disruptor. He is the one
00:24:21.880who changed the trajectory. It wasn't Obama. Obama was just an extension of everything that
00:24:27.040liberals always believed. It was Trump who came in and just stirred everything up. That's why we're
00:24:32.720angry. That's why we're demanding these things. That's why we're pushing so hard because Trump
00:24:37.920is so crazy. That's just factually and historically inaccurate. Even if Trump was a great disruptor,0.97
00:24:44.680it seems to me that progressives, many of them don't even know that they're in the midst of a
00:24:49.340revolution. Yeah, I think one of the greatest, I think you're getting at a very important point.
00:24:56.120One of the greatest myths of our time right now is that a Bill Clinton, JFK, Harry Truman,
00:25:03.080Democratic Party is trying to be hijacked by crazy socialists. But if you just put that aside
00:25:12.040for a while and ask yourself, who came up with the idea before the socialists ever mentioned it
00:25:19.36010 years ago of packing the court, getting rid of the filibuster, destroying the electoral college,0.97
00:25:24.640That was Hillary's big theme and bringing in two more states.
00:25:30.320As far as methodology, I mean, who got out in front of the Supreme Court like a 60s radical and said, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, you're not going to know what hit you.
00:25:40.740You reap the wind, you sow the wind, you're going to reap the whirlwind.
00:25:45.080Who said get in their faces, follow them, harass them?
00:25:48.280And I could go on and on. But the Democratic Party, it's a chicken and an egg question, but they were the chicken and they hatched the socialist egg. So the socialists are not, I mean, they're not called the Republican socialists of America. They're not called the independent socialists of America. They're not called the socialists of America. They're called the democratic socialists of America.
00:26:11.460so they were a bunch of motley uh downwardly mobile urban mostly white kids with degrees
00:26:19.040and student loans that were not marketable and they were absorbed or they when they wanted to
00:26:25.040get political and get serious they they went to their natural home in the democratic party
00:26:30.200and you know it wasn't like hiking hikam jeffries you could argue is the second most powerful
00:26:37.500Democratic politician. He endorsed a socialist over a Democrat, Andrew Cuomo. Keith Ellison
00:26:44.700posed with an Antifa and said, this is the great book to go after Donald Trump. It was the Democrats
00:26:51.020that, you know, weaponized with lawfare four criminal suits. They were the ones that created
00:26:56.880the phony dossier. They were the ones that did the fake Russian created the laptop. They were0.91
00:27:03.360the ones who tried to get Trump off 20 ballots, 20 state ballots. They were a very radical
00:27:08.760group the last 15 years. And so the socialists then merged into them because they found that
00:27:17.200this was a place, they didn't form a third party, they didn't try to make a socialist,
00:27:22.960democratic socialism, they didn't try to make it a normal, organized political movement.
00:27:29.840And they went right into the Democratic Party because that was their natural home, because the Democratic Party bore no resemblance to what it was in 1992 or 3.0.92
00:27:40.700If you look at the agenda of the Democratic Party, at least as it was formulated in 1992 and 1996, they called for a balanced budget, closing the border, deporting people who were here illegally,
00:28:04.040trying violent juveniles that were 16 and 17 as adults uh and having compromises on texas and
00:28:11.960trying to pay down the debt it's all in there today to a democrat that would seem further to
00:28:18.340the right than trump so the party was changed uh partly because of the iraq and afghanistan wars
00:28:28.140I don't know what the exact trajectory was, but Obama, as I said earlier, fueled a lot
00:28:57.620And then the Democratic Socialists were just a disorganized, kind of buffoonish group of people who said they've got the money, they've got the model, they've got the institutions, and they agree with 90 percent of what we want.
00:29:15.560Another pause to tell you about every life.
00:29:18.020Well, we are getting down to the wire with this pregnancy, y'all.
00:29:21.760And I am about to be in the newborn stage again.
00:29:24.120And we're out of diapers with our other three.
00:29:26.080But with this one, we're going to be in it again.
00:33:29.520all of these people. And we saw that in Martha's Vineyard when Ron DeSantis got really smart and
00:33:35.660the Texas Governor Abbott got smart. And they said, if we're going to be overrun by people,
00:33:39.720we're going to send them to Martha's Vineyard as a test case. And everybody came out. They
00:33:44.400expressed at Martha's Vineyard. They said, this is so terrible. We feel so sorry. We're going to
00:33:49.320get care packages. Does anybody have an extra puff coat? Let's give these nice boxes. And then
00:33:54.620it was within 24 hours. See you. Wouldn't want to be you. The bus is getting you out of here.
00:33:59.520and that's what's so strange about the democratic party it's the party of the wealth wealthy and the
00:34:05.640privileged at least the elite is and uh that's that's true to form throughout history that these
00:34:12.360radical political revolution even the cuban revolution che guevara and castro were not poor
00:34:18.380they were members of the aristocracy and um it's and they they're always used to being exempt from
00:34:26.920any of the nefarious and bad things that happen when their ideas are actually implemented into
00:34:32.040practice. And I could, all during the height of the DEI, I would hear people in Palo Alto tell me
00:34:38.600from Silicon Valley, multi-millionaire and billionaire families and kids, we all support
00:34:45.920DEI. And then they found out that Stanford took it seriously. So 8% of the incoming class at
00:34:53.340stanford were white males well that can barely account for athletes legacies children of
00:35:00.760administrators it's only about two or three hundred people so what happened very quickly it came got
00:35:07.720around that if you gave the price was about 10 million bucks to get your kid into stanford it
00:35:14.020wasn't ever written but if you gave 10 million dollars you had a chance of getting your white
00:35:18.260male kid into Stanford. And so, in other words, these people who were telling the guy in East
00:35:25.820Palestine, Ohio, you're just a poor white kid, and you have no culture, and we don't like you,0.93
00:35:32.540even though he might have had a perfect SAT and a straight A, we don't want you at Stanford.1.00
00:35:37.680And we believe in DEI. We want the black and Hispanic children of orthodontists and dentists1.00
00:35:43.480and architects. But if they take away our place, not yours, we don't care about you,1.00
00:35:48.740we're going to pay the necessary Dane Guild or bribe money to get our kids in. And they did.
00:35:55.680And Stanford will never talk, Yale, Stanford will never talk about that.
00:36:02.820And why is a movement that is apparently about diversity and inclusion and compassion and empathy
00:36:09.320and all of these things why is it throughout history progressivism so violent i mean obviously
00:36:16.200we could talk about charlie kirk we could talk about a lot of instances but trump alone has
00:36:20.100survived i believe it's seven assassination attempts you're a historian um i think that's
00:36:26.680unprecedented you tell me but how do you see this in light of yeah go ahead yeah well it's funny you
00:36:35.600said that i looked it up because i wanted to quantify it by actual data we've never had a
00:36:40.860president 47 president we've never had a president in whose tenure the secret service shot back at a
00:36:49.820potential assassin four on four different occasions so you're right it is a record we've
00:36:55.680never seen that happen the secret service have never pulled out their guns or rifles and tried
00:37:00.880to shoot in Pennsylvania, in Florida, in Washington, D.C., and again in Florida, trying to break into
00:37:09.920Mar-a-Lago. On each one of those occasions, the Secret Service had to fire guns to what they
00:37:14.560thought to save the president. So as to your question is, why is the left so violent? I think
00:37:21.160it's, I tried to answer that in the book, but I think it comes from two causes. One pragmatic or
00:37:29.580practical and one theoretical. Theoretically, they believe that they're morally superior because
00:37:35.340they believe in a mandate of equality. They want everybody to be equal. And so it's like
00:37:41.800Alexis de Tocqueville said in Democracy in America, you got to be very careful to maintain0.88
00:37:48.820an independent middle class so you'll have a peasantry like Europe. And there we all know0.98
00:37:54.240that democracy can't really flourish because most people would rather be poor and equal than all
00:38:03.160better off but some people really better off given the power pernicious power of envy so
00:38:10.120they feel that because they care even if it's abstract any that any means necessary are justified
00:38:19.800because they are morally superior to selfish republicans or libertarians who only care about
00:38:29.880themselves but they you see it ice they they are violent because they're trying to help
00:38:35.360juan rodriguez who's a victim of ice and therefore if i have to ram my car into an ice person
00:38:41.060or i got to tax an ice facility in texas it's justified or if luigi mangione wants to shoot
00:38:49.800ryan thompson in the back in a very cowardly fashion then it's good he's saving thousands
00:38:55.240of people or at least he's drawing attention or if a young mother wants to strangle three
00:39:00.840of her children then we have to address the pathologies of america that allows
00:39:06.040postpartum depression to flourish or something like this but it's always i am morally justified
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00:40:30.460the other reason is more concrete and it goes back to classical wisdom and that is most people
00:40:44.740do not believe in socialism they know that if they work hard they want the fruits of their labor
00:40:50.120not that they're greedy and they're willing to help other people but they want to make that
00:40:54.100decision of how much money they give to charity they do not want to work very hard and then turn
00:41:00.300over to a central government who takes their money and gives to people, often without legitimate
00:41:06.160criteria. So they don't like mandated, and the left knows that. So the left says,
00:41:12.440the people do not know what's good for them. It's the opiate of the masses, religion,
00:41:18.280it deludes them, or tradition and custom deludes them, or their own selfishness deludes them. So
00:41:23.780So therefore, because our agenda will never be popular, even though it's the morally superior one, we've got to have to force it down the throats.
00:41:32.760And I think it was Lenin who said, if you're going to make an omelet, you've got to break a few eggs.
00:41:39.840Sometimes that's attributed to Stalin.
00:41:41.540but it's a it's a not it's not a natural human agenda and the people who advance it do so because
00:41:50.580it gives them inside moral superiority and getting a maybe a corollary of getting back to the point
00:41:57.260that they're mostly wealthy it also asks which is their guilt they feel that if i'm for mandated
00:42:04.040equality and i want to help the poor everywhere but i want to have my malibu beach house and
00:42:11.520my Brentwood house, and I want my kids to get into Stanford or Harvard or Yale, and I'm willing
00:42:17.880to pay to take a place from somebody else, I feel really, really guilty about that. But therefore,
00:42:24.500I'm going to, you know, post to how horrible Donald Trump is, or how selfish the Republicans0.98
00:42:31.160are, as long as I get to keep what I have. And that's how they square that circle of being selfish,0.97
00:42:36.520but also in the abstract magnanimous with other people's capital.
00:42:42.140Well, obviously, it's a violent revolution that needs to be countered.
00:42:46.220And we've already talked about just a little bit how Trump has done that,
00:43:03.960um it seems actually to be mostly centered on foreign policy and i just wonder what you think
00:43:10.900of the future of the republican party is unity even necessary for a counter-revolution
00:43:18.720and is it possible it's a very good question again uh so let's quantify let's say just for
00:43:29.500the sake of argument that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and people who follow them
00:43:36.840represent a large constituency, and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey, maybe even
00:43:44.220Nick Fuentes, maybe eight or nine percent of the party. So what I'm asking myself empirically,
00:43:53.300does that translate into power in the Republican Party? Obviously not, because Marjorie Taylor
00:44:00.280Green wisely didn't even run for re-election. Thomas Massey, who was very popular in his own
00:44:05.800district, didn't even get the nomination. He lost in the primary. Tucker Carlson talks a lot about
00:44:11.680a national agenda, but he's not going to run for anything. So it's mostly a movement that appeals
00:44:18.580to disaffected, often white males who have been the object of intuberation
00:44:23.600and feel that they're not given their due and it's not fair,
00:44:29.060and they have a lot of legitimate arguments.
00:44:31.120But I don't think it rivals the zeal on the left of the socialists, number one.
00:44:39.480And number two, you're absolutely right.
00:44:45.160It's confined mostly to foreign policy, and the argument is we don't want any misadventures abroad, which everybody agrees with, like 20 years in Afghanistan or 10 in Iraq, at the expense of our own people.
00:45:01.800So it's an American-first argument, and Donald Trump promised that.
00:45:05.660But if you look at what Donald Trump actually said, he was never a Buchanan isolationist.
00:48:14.280The problem is that you're going to have a crisis with a rivalry
00:48:21.280between what I would call the Rubio camp and the Vance camp.
00:48:25.180And they're not like Tucker Carlson at all, J.D. Vance.
00:48:28.420But they have a different, when J.D. Vance quotes Huey Long as sort of a good person that spread the wealth, who was an utterly corrupt, and he didn't admit that he was utterly corrupt, or when he says Israel can't kill its way out of Lebanon when really it didn't want to attack it.
00:48:48.880It was attacked by 7,000 missiles from Hezbollah.
00:48:53.200He has a fundamental different view than Marco Rubio wing,
00:48:57.160and I don't know how that's going to come out
00:49:00.020because I think J.D. Vance in many ways
00:49:03.720is the most gifted politician I've seen in Repartee,
00:49:08.680and the reason he was picked for the vice president slot
00:49:13.400was not because he did in traditional terms offer diversity.
00:49:16.960After all, he was a white male coming from a state that was staunchly Republican, that he gave no advantage in the electoral college.
00:49:27.980But they knew that he was a masterful orator and debater, and he was unafraid.
00:49:35.940So they unleashed him on all the networks, all the, you know, meet the press, face the nation, all that stuff.
00:53:22.440So they're adaptable. But I guess I would say that right now, Marco Rubio represents the Jacksonian Trump view of foreign policy. And J.D. Vance represents the domestic idea of sort of semi-managed economy with tariffs and partnerships with private enterprise and joint investments.
00:53:50.400a lot of the things the wall street journal hates for example and so uh it'll just be a question of
00:53:58.900who is who is better able to adapt to an area which they're less experienced in or less
00:54:06.120comfortable with so if jd vance can formulate a foreign policy similar to trump's maybe i don't
00:54:14.880know you know and not say things like i talked to the iranians and there's some good moderates
00:54:21.400there and we're making a lot of progress there are no moderates in that government if you were
00:54:25.580moderate you'd be shot on sight and on the other hand i'm not sure that marco rubio has the
00:54:33.720first-hand experience that jd was with the white underclass and how they were victimized by
00:54:39.960globalization so it's going to be interesting they both they're both the the nomination or
00:54:46.820the public support will go to the candidate who can best adapt and formulate the area that he's
00:54:52.900least uh strong in will rubio develop an american first domestic policy and will jd develop a
00:55:02.560jacksonian policy and i have a feeling there's going to be enormous amount of pressure to put
00:55:07.500both of them on the ticket. The only thing that's changed from that formula of what seemed like a
00:55:12.860slam dunk maybe six years ago, I mean, six months ago, there's a large contingent of traditional
00:55:19.960Republicans, a lot of them Jewish, that have made it clear they do not want J.D. Vance on the ticket.
00:55:28.440And that'll be something maybe they would like him as vice president. I don't think he would,
00:55:32.600i don't think you can be vice president more than two terms or one term but we that's never
00:55:38.120happened before they have a person come back i think is so the big question is if you want to
00:55:45.300solve the problem by having them both run then the question six months ago was obviously jd is
00:55:51.840the heir apparent but now there are people in the party that say no rubio has earned the heir
00:55:57.720parents slot so that's going to be very interesting as far as i'm concerned i'd like to
00:56:03.640yeah i think right now the polls everybody shows that jd is the favorite and that's in part because
00:56:12.780rubio has been on record that says if jd runs he will not run for president but we know how
00:56:18.420political promises go when there's a lot of pressure on you but if it's if i were jd i and
00:56:25.600he met with jewish leaders the other day it's not just jewish leaders that people uh there were a
00:56:32.120lot of people in the party that were offended uh on some of the remarks he said about um the
00:56:41.080iranian the iran war or israel's uh actions after uh october 7th and he needs to clarify that in a
00:56:50.960way that makes it unequivocally clear that it's not anti-Semitic and it's not anti-Israel because
00:56:57.900the Republican Party for all the propaganda, if you look at the polls, it's still 65% and up
00:57:04.900supports Israel. And I think the other thing very quickly is I think that a lot of people are trying
00:57:12.920to hurt JD on his side. So I think somebody like Tucker Carlson the other day, for example, he said,
00:57:20.540And I knew him very well and like him, although I don't agree with him.
00:57:24.500I should say I don't agree with his latest manifestation.
00:57:28.340But when he says that Donald Trump should be removed immediately,
00:57:34.240and he's saying things like that because he wants J.D. to be in a position
00:57:39.980where he has to either agree with Tucker or cut him off.
00:57:43.680And if he cuts him off, then he makes him a victim, and that's sort of mean,
00:57:47.080and they have a long personal relationship.
01:02:33.140And here's what I've done in my tenure.
01:02:35.440If you look at the top 10 software companies in the world, nine now are America.
01:02:40.800If you look at the top 10 AI companies, eight are American.
01:02:45.300If you look at the number of satellites, we launched 10 times the amount, mostly due to Elon Musk, than all the world put together.
01:02:56.420If you look at our GDP, far from being overtaken by China, we're $10 trillion bigger than their economy.
01:03:05.220So one American takes four Chinese counterparts to produce 10 trillion less than what we do for each American.
01:03:15.880And we're 10 trillion bigger than the EU, even though they have 100 million more people than me.0.56
01:03:20.780That was not at all in 2015 predicted.
01:03:26.120And so when you look at all of these criteria, we are the world's largest producer, not just now, but in history of gas and oil.
01:03:34.460And Trump is desperately trying to make us the largest producer of rare earth, etc., etc.
01:03:41.000So the third thing that he would be remembered for is that he took a declining America where it was the Obama mantra was we're going to have managed a decline.
01:03:54.400or even the Romney-McCain view that we have to give enormous concessions
01:04:01.460to our allies so they'll like us or they'll stay in NATO or all this.0.58
01:04:05.660But when you look at what he's done with NATO or getting the Chinese out
01:04:09.880or when he came into office of the 32 Latin American, Central American,
01:04:15.240South American, Caribbean nations, almost 28 of them were communists,
01:04:24.400And so nobody gives him credit, but he is remaking the world in a way that if these policies were to continue of deregulation and support and protection of American companies abroad and telling Silicon Valley, for example, why do you give money to the left?
01:04:44.900They hate you. They want to confiscate your government. They want to pick winners and losers. I don't care if you like me, but I want you to make America first.
01:04:53.640So Andrew, make all the weapons you want, or David Sachs or Mark Andreessen, come on and join us.
01:05:01.100But you've got to be like the World War II capitalists, the war production board.
01:05:05.640They produce more tanks, more planes than anybody in the world.
01:05:08.760So if you're patriotic and you're nationalistic and your interests are America versus all the people who want to destroy us,
01:05:16.340then I'm going to do all I can regardless of what your personal politics are.
01:05:20.740That was an amazing achievement, I think.
01:05:22.820So those three things, if we can solve the immigration problem, if we can look at Americans as the content of our character, not the color of our skin, and that's in process.
01:05:35.160And then if we get people who will continue the idea that America is not in decline, but actually at its greatest epoch, economically, culturally, influentially.
01:05:47.760The one thing I would add that I'm disappointed, I'm sure you are too, is that we're either $32 trillion in debt, or if you recalibrate under this new system, we're $40 trillion in debt, and we're paying $3 billion a day in interest, and it's not sustainable, and nobody on the left or right seems to address it.
01:06:05.660yeah wow okay well here's to hoping here's to hoping that those three priorities at least
01:06:13.900get done in the next 10 years i think you and i would both be very happy with those results and
01:06:19.460whether the progressives admit it or not um they get to reap the benefits of the counter revolution
01:06:26.420even if they fight against it you made a very good point the the irony is the left are going
01:06:33.020to be big beneficiaries if this revolution, this counter-revolution never works.
01:06:38.320Yep, absolutely. Everyone, go get your books wherever books are sold. Thank you so much.