Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 159

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. I'm so excited about today's conversation. I'm talking to

00:00:05.840 Missy Robertson of Duck Dynasty. She has a lot of other roles too. We are going to talk about

00:00:10.980 motherhood. We're going to talk about the business that she runs. She's going to give us some advice

00:00:15.900 whether you are a new mom like I am or you have been a mom for many years or you're a dad. She

00:00:21.720 also gives us advice for godly marriages. She is doing so much. I'm really excited for you to get

00:00:28.800 to hear the conversation that we're going to have. Missy, thank you so much for joining me.

00:00:33.880 Thank you for having me. Yes. So I am sure that everyone listening already knows who you are,

00:00:39.380 but just in case, could you tell everyone who you are and what you do, all the things that you do?

00:00:45.640 Oh goodness gracious. Well, they're probably going to know me best for Duck Dynasty. Yes. So I'm

00:00:50.980 married to the best looking one. So that should explain itself. There you go. The one with the

00:00:57.540 beard. I'm married to Jace and we've been married for 29 years. Wow. I'm an old fogey. I think of

00:01:07.360 myself now. So I've got three in college and one still at home. Wow. And you also have a company as

00:01:14.820 well or an organization. I'm not sure how you exactly describe it. Laminin, correct? It's a

00:01:19.300 company. Yes. It's a business. Laminin by Missy Robertson is a jewelry business and that's what it looks

00:01:24.960 like and that's what category it's in. But it's really only about helping women who are in need

00:01:31.340 of a new purpose. Jewelry is just what makes it look pretty and how we do that. Yeah. I want to

00:01:35.820 talk about that a little bit first because I think that this is an awesome mission. Like you said,

00:01:40.380 it is a company, but like you said, also it is a mission for women who are in need and need that

00:01:45.840 purpose. So can you talk about how you started this and how it's grown since you started it?

00:01:51.580 Sure. We've always been mission-minded. I say we as in my husband and I, my family when I grew up,

00:01:57.840 and even Jace's family. So we've always wanted to look out for those people who needed that extra

00:02:03.100 little spiritual guidance and help. However, this background of the women that I'm helping now,

00:02:08.140 I knew nothing really about because they are coming from backgrounds of drug addiction,

00:02:12.720 homelessness, self-trafficking, alcohol abuse. So there were many factors that led these people to

00:02:23.080 me, ones that I did not see coming. So when I first wanted to start the jewelry business,

00:02:27.280 it was just something on the side that a friend encouraged me to do during that dynasty. And when

00:02:32.920 I asked Ms. Kay, okay, now we've got this set up, we've got supplies ordered. If you know of any women

00:02:38.900 that, cause she works with some women too at church that need an extra side job, part-time or

00:02:43.760 whatever, send them to me. She sent me six women that were all post-drug addicts that really could

00:02:50.960 not find a job. And when I realized that, I thought this is so sad because these women are turning their

00:02:56.980 lives around. They're sober at this point and they want to stay sober. So why don't I just give them a

00:03:02.780 chance at this? And that's really what it went to. It went to really not thinking in that direction

00:03:08.300 too. Now that's, that's the only thing that Laminin is about really.

00:03:12.360 So it started out as the jewelry business. It kind of ended up as both the, both the business

00:03:17.320 and the mission, something that you didn't necessarily intend. And how long has it been

00:03:21.640 since you started it?

00:03:23.040 We've been in business a little over three years.

00:03:26.280 Wow. And tell me, tell me what you guys specialize in and where people can find you and what they'll

00:03:33.180 find when they go.

00:03:34.880 Becky, you can go to the name of our company, Laminin, L-A-M-I-N-I-N, laminindesigns.com.

00:03:41.960 And you can not only see all of the beautiful jewelry that we make every season, special occasions,

00:03:47.340 holidays, even special lines there on the website, but you can also read and see stories of very

00:03:54.260 intentional stories of women who have gone through a lot of abuse in their life. And so

00:03:59.160 if you click on each woman, it kind of tells you a little bit about each one of them.

00:04:05.040 Wow. That's amazing. I looked online and it really is moving, seeing all of their stories.

00:04:09.880 Have you found that this is a problem, maybe bigger than you thought it was that people who

00:04:14.960 are trying for redemption, they're trying to turn their lives around and do the right thing that

00:04:19.680 they're just not even given the opportunity. Have you found that this extends larger than just

00:04:24.900 your community? Yes. We don't market that we are only higher women with post-drug addictions.

00:04:31.700 We just, you know, when we put it out there, friend of a friend or whatever to say that we've

00:04:36.080 got some openings, it seems like that those are the women that have found us. And so we want to

00:04:41.440 make sure that when these women come, because most of them have also been incarcerated at some point

00:04:46.260 in their life. So they have to check that box that they've been convicted of a felony. And a lot of

00:04:50.580 times, you know, employers, they're scared of that box. They're like, we don't want to take a risk on

00:04:54.760 this person. So we're, we're open to taking a risk on that person, but we're not entitled to having

00:05:02.740 them hold that job. They're going to have to earn that and keep that job. Just like any regular

00:05:06.380 employee, all we're doing is giving them that chance to break that cycle that their families pass

00:05:11.760 down to them. Right. We just don't want that to be passed on in poverty and dysfunction and more

00:05:19.220 drug abuse onto their own children. We're trying to help them break that cycle. Exactly. That's the

00:05:23.520 difference between a handout and a hand up. You're giving them the opportunity and then they have to

00:05:28.080 work for it just like anyone else does. It's not something that, like you said, they're entitled to

00:05:32.540 or that they get to hold forever, but that they actually have to prove themselves to be competent and

00:05:37.320 to be qualified. And I would guess that that fact gives people a lot of confidence who maybe were

00:05:43.180 struggling before with all kinds of insecurity and thinking they're never going to measure up again.

00:05:48.300 They're never going to be able to prove themselves or prove their worth and to say, Hey, look, you've got

00:05:53.280 to earn your keep here. I imagine that that helps give them a sense of self-assurance that they didn't

00:05:58.820 have before. 100% correct. Their problems don't start with taking that first drug or being locked

00:06:07.200 up for the first time. Their problems started in childhood when they were rejected by a parent

00:06:12.020 or a caregiver over and over in their life. Someone telling them they weren't good enough. Someone

00:06:17.240 telling them they'll never amount to anything. Their self-worth was taken away long before that

00:06:22.040 first trial of whatever drug that was. So that's what we're trying to help them understand that they

00:06:27.300 are getting back because of the skills that they are learning and what they're doing here at

00:06:32.180 Laminin. We, I mean, my jewelry designer, everything that you're going to see, you see behind me on our

00:06:38.400 website, it's designed by one person who has exactly this history. She was looking at 20 years in prison

00:06:45.100 and she went through a drug court program and had to find a job. And she came to Laminin and we took her

00:06:51.740 in and she, she finished that drug court program. She graduated and she's now our official designer of

00:06:58.520 all of the jewelry that we sell. She didn't know she had that. She asked me, Miss Missy, will you give

00:07:03.680 me a chance at that designing job? I was sure. Why not? Before I go out and hire someone else. And

00:07:09.860 she's doing fantastic. That's just one example. But so many times people have said, why don't you turn

00:07:15.200 this into a charity? And then you can just raise funds instead of risking your own financial stability

00:07:20.460 in doing this. And I thought, you know, we have a charity. We have the Mia Moo Fund charity where we help

00:07:26.460 cleft children because of our own daughters and our own experience. I don't want to do another

00:07:31.060 fundraising project. This is not just about handing someone a paycheck, no matter what they do and

00:07:37.520 saying this is charity work. But with the rise and the fall of this business, it it's all in their

00:07:43.960 hands. And so the more we succeed, the better they feel about themselves, the more that they understand

00:07:49.500 that they do have a skill, they are valuable, they are worthy to have this chance in life. And

00:07:54.800 they're recreating new cycles for their families. It's a different sense of responsibility. I think

00:08:00.760 when you know that you're actually needed, when you are filling a role because of your competence or

00:08:05.780 because of what you bring to the table, rather than just, okay, we know that you're, you're a charity

00:08:12.300 case, and we're going to allow you to fill this role just because we want to. But no, we need you to.

00:08:17.920 And the skills that you're able to bring to the table actually add value. And people are buying the

00:08:22.860 products that you're designing, not just, not because they feel bad for you, but because they're

00:08:27.840 good, because they're quality. I think that makes a huge difference to people. So I like that you made

00:08:33.780 that distinction because I'm sure people were wondering. And also, I think that you speak to

00:08:38.060 the power of redemption. The same thing that Jesus does to us, raises us from death to life when we

00:08:44.200 weren't deserving of that and says, I mean, who are we to not give someone a second chance or an

00:08:49.320 opportunity when Christ has forgiven us of, of far worse. And so I am very encouraged by how you guys

00:08:56.600 are living out the gospel in that way. There are a lot of people, I think, listening to this that

00:09:02.740 probably are thinking, wow, I'm really inspired. I want to maybe do something similar or do something

00:09:08.320 on a smaller scale in their community. Is there any advice that you have for young women that are like,

00:09:14.980 I really want to walk the walk in this whole pro-life movement that they, that they might be

00:09:21.520 in and they just, they just don't know how? Sure. I mean, not everybody can open a business. I

00:09:26.480 understand that. But if you already own a business, maybe take a risk on that box one time and maybe

00:09:32.020 pray about that opportunity to hire someone who has been incarcerated and who has committed a felony,

00:09:37.200 but really is trying to turn their life around, take a chance on them. Another thing I thought of

00:09:42.240 was since I don't have this background in my own personal life or my family, I didn't know how

00:09:47.580 common it was. I really didn't. And I wasn't aware of how to look for it in families around me. So I

00:09:54.680 thought back to my own, my own children and how, you know, even teachers, when my kids were going

00:10:00.800 through something at school, they would reach out to me. I had my oldest son, Reed, he got just in kind

00:10:07.700 of just altercations with this one little girl in first grade. Her name was Maya. And they just didn't

00:10:13.040 like each other. They just kind of just yeah, yeah, back and forth. And the teacher called me and she

00:10:17.480 said, I just want you to know that I took Reed aside and I talked to him about his attitude with this

00:10:22.160 girl and about how to give her mercy and patience. And she's going to do the same thing with him. And I

00:10:27.480 thought, I love that that teacher did that with my child. She cared enough with my child to do that.

00:10:33.400 And so when I think about the way that my employees, these women were raised, if there

00:10:38.980 would have been a teacher, someone that was in their life every day that saw something was not

00:10:43.800 quite right and pulled that child aside and said, you know what? I don't know what's going on at home

00:10:48.760 with you, but you are worthy. You are loved. You are going to amount to something one day because you

00:10:55.440 are smart and you are beautiful because of the way you were created by the creator of the universe.

00:11:00.600 You're purposeful. You were made to be here on purpose. And maybe even that one conversation

00:11:07.560 with that child could have led to a conversation with the mom for the mom to know that their daughter

00:11:13.780 was very well loved and taken care of because all of these cycles, and I know this is a crazy

00:11:20.760 statistic. We've had 51 women come through laminin in three years and all but one, I would say,

00:11:27.320 had toxic mothers. Not mothers who made mistakes. Not mothers who really tried but failed. These

00:11:35.180 mothers were toxic because of the way they were raised. Their own way of having to deal with

00:11:42.320 being told that they weren't worthy. They're not loved. They weren't made on purpose. And they

00:11:47.300 passed that down through drugs and alcohol and abuse to their own children. So what we're trying to do

00:11:52.360 is break that. At Laminin, we're doing it. But when you say, what can someone else do? Just look

00:11:58.160 around. Maybe have that conversation with that child that you know is going through something.

00:12:02.880 Have that conversation with the mom. See where they're going. Pull them into your circle. Make

00:12:07.620 the mom realize she was made on purpose so that maybe she can go ahead and stop that cycle.

00:12:13.940 I think a lot of times we don't see adults that either get into drug addiction or commit some kind

00:12:18.940 of crime. We don't see them as people who used to be children. That the things that they're doing as

00:12:24.040 adults, they're not doing in a vacuum. They probably didn't just wake up one day and say,

00:12:28.320 hey, I'm going to be a drug addict or I'm going to get involved with this abusive boyfriend.

00:12:32.220 It happened over, you know, many years and probably started in childhood. And I think that if we started

00:12:39.220 viewing adults as people who used to be children and were raised in a particular way and were influenced in

00:12:44.740 a particular way, we'd probably have a lot more empathy and compassion. It's definitely opened

00:12:50.640 my eyes just being a new mom, just realizing what kids go through and how much impact you really have

00:12:56.900 on your kids, even from the time that they're in the womb and how just not everyone has the

00:13:01.760 opportunity to get told, hey, you have a purpose and you are loved by God and you were created

00:13:06.680 specially in your mother's womb. You're made for more than all the stuff that you're seeking to find

00:13:11.460 fulfillment and happiness. And I think that you're absolutely right. Even just starting with

00:13:16.560 that kids going into school and seeing that one kid who might be alone by themselves and isn't

00:13:21.840 included and it doesn't have any friend to talk to. Maybe it just starts there. Maybe it starts there

00:13:27.360 on college campuses and in high school and different places like that for kids to just be the one to

00:13:34.240 reach out and to speak into that person's life. Is there any advice that you have for moms that are

00:13:40.500 wanting to raise kids that are includers that maybe are the first people in these people's lives to say

00:13:45.380 you matter? Right. You know, kids are so self-focused. I've raised three. So it's so hard for another

00:13:53.940 child to look and empathize with another child. Yeah. But we can start talking to them about their

00:14:00.620 experiences at school and just those little encouraging messages like, what did you see about

00:14:06.640 her today or something that's off? Because I know now after raising kids that if they are having

00:14:13.860 trouble with another kid at school or this kid is annoying or this kid's trying to get attention or

00:14:18.020 he's acting out, something is not right at home. And to give that friend, that annoying classmate,

00:14:26.260 whoever that is, give them a little mercy and understand something's not right. And usually all those

00:14:31.320 times that my kids have come home complaining about someone like that, and I've told them that,

00:14:35.240 they'll come back a few days later and they have found out what's going on. So I don't know if

00:14:38.960 they've asked them, had conversations with them, talked to the teacher. But once you plant that in

00:14:43.540 there and realize they're doing the best that they can, they're not getting the substances that they

00:14:48.660 need in terms of love and acceptance and hope for a future from their own parents, because their

00:14:54.660 parents are going through something that's not right in their life. And they, we don't want,

00:14:59.060 we don't want to, but sometimes we interject all of our own insecurities on our own children.

00:15:05.440 And so in order to, you know, right those wrongs, go ahead as a parent, apologize. This is what I'm

00:15:12.980 going through. Love me. I love you. I'm going to make mistakes and you're going to make mistakes.

00:15:17.780 So let's give each other some mercy. And sometimes that, that really can solve a whole lot. You know,

00:15:23.140 love can conquer a lot of things and patience too. But as children, we look at our parents like

00:15:28.120 they can do no wrong. And when that happens and we see that they, they are doing something wrong,

00:15:33.800 we're confused. Like, why are they doing that? But they're telling me not to. So transparency in

00:15:39.260 childhood, I think is a big deal with that. And when they get older, that's what we're trying to

00:15:45.080 actually teach here at Laminate. It's just when you mess up, because you're going to tell your child,

00:15:50.040 I messed up. I hope you still love me. I love you. And they're, they're actually implementing some of

00:15:54.960 those things in their daily lives. That's awesome. I think that's especially,

00:15:59.100 especially hard to do as parents, because you want your kids to think that you have it all together.

00:16:04.380 You're afraid maybe that if you show your weaknesses or your failures, that they will

00:16:09.180 either not respect you as much, or maybe even see it as an excuse to misbehave themselves. But I think

00:16:15.600 what it does is show them that, Hey, I am in just as much need of grace from God as you are. And we're

00:16:24.460 learning together. And I'm trying to lead by example, but I'm not always going to be perfect.

00:16:29.040 And you hope that that breeds dependency on Christ from them. And I think that's really the

00:16:35.420 best you can do. Is there any other advice that you would have for new moms? I'm a new mom. I'm always

00:16:41.480 looking for godly wisdom. The newborn stage is, is, is fun. I've heard the other stages are, are

00:16:48.000 even harder. Um, but you know, I'm always looking for, for advice from people who are a lot more

00:16:54.800 experienced than I am. So just any general wisdom. If I could go back, I would show my kids a lot more

00:17:00.580 mercy. I will say that and not be so hard on them in terms of how I want them to act. They're going

00:17:06.020 to mess up. And so like what you said about Jesus, he, his blood covers me every single moment of every

00:17:12.160 single day. So who am I to not give that same mercy and forgiveness to my own children or even the

00:17:18.540 women here at Laminin? No one is perfect. We're all going to mess up, but that's what I so love

00:17:24.180 about what Christ did for us is that as long as we are walking in the light, we're not hiding what

00:17:29.760 we're doing, which is what these girls have seen from their parents. They hide, they hid their lifestyle

00:17:35.220 and so that their children wouldn't see it, but they're there. We see it, right? Our kids see,

00:17:40.900 see all of our flaws. So as long as we're walking in the light, as he is in the light, the blood

00:17:46.440 covers all of us and forgives us. And we have fellowship with each other in order. In other

00:17:51.480 words, we can, we can relate to each other. We can encourage each other. We talk to each other. We can

00:17:57.460 be open and transparent. Fellowship is not just the surface stuff. It's deep fellowship is getting to know

00:18:03.680 each other and understanding that none of us are perfect, but we can be perfect if we're walking

00:18:10.400 in the light with Jesus's blood. So we're, we're making a difference here at Laminin and it's

00:18:15.840 encouraging to me, completely blessing to me to see these women who are so strong, so courageous to

00:18:25.760 get up every day and fight these battles. Because even though a lot of them here have put Christ on as

00:18:31.220 their Lord through this whole process of working here, the people around them have not. So their

00:18:37.260 lives around them have not changed, even though they've changed. So they have a different perspective

00:18:42.800 on the life they still have to go home to every night and every weekend have to deal with, you know,

00:18:48.120 baby daddies and people who don't support them and all of the mess that they've tried to escape from.

00:18:54.280 So just because that they've become Christians doesn't mean that their lives have been cleaned up

00:18:58.780 around them. So that's the hard part for them is just that daily encouragement and they get that

00:19:03.980 from each other. And we've seen actually really good success rates here. And I mentioned 51 women,

00:19:11.520 80% of those women are still clean, which that is exactly in contrast to what's going on in society

00:19:18.780 with drug abuse. 20% stay clean. So we're seeing 80% at Laminin. So another thing about having a secure

00:19:27.040 and a safe place to come to work every day and being encouraged that you value, you're valued and

00:19:32.680 that you're worthy and that we need your skillset and that you're loved. And so, and also that you're

00:19:39.200 not just loved by me and the women around you, but you're loved by the creator of the universe and you

00:19:43.780 matter. It's giving them that purpose and that acceptance and belonging that they've probably never

00:19:49.460 really felt. And maybe we're seeking through drugs or seeking through bad relationships. All of us have

00:19:54.660 been there in some kind of way, even if it wasn't drugs or relationship, just looking for happiness

00:20:00.120 and fulfillment and things where we know that they aren't. Uh, we know that they're in Christ, but

00:20:05.080 maybe we've, um, gone through temptation or I know, you know, when I was in college, the party scene is

00:20:11.640 tempting to, uh, to find that kind of satisfaction. And, and we just know that it's not there. So for these

00:20:18.460 women, maybe for the first time ever to hear that, Hey, instant gratification and temporary happiness

00:20:24.820 actually isn't worth it. There's something bigger than you. There's something bigger than those fleeting

00:20:29.060 highs. There's a purpose that you can strive to. Um, I imagine that's why you see such a discrepancy

00:20:35.860 between the people that are at laminin and the people that are just in society hoping for the best. If you

00:20:41.240 don't attach yourself to something else, you're just going to keep on going back to the thing that's familiar

00:20:45.360 and feels good. Um, so I imagine you're breaking those, breaking those cycles. Do most of them

00:20:51.460 have kids? All of them, all of them have children. Yes. But I will say that none of them right now have

00:20:58.740 successful marriages. Right. So, you know, those are not just coincidences, you know, with all these

00:21:05.220 statistics. But, uh, one of the girls told me recently, you know, no one really, as a little girl

00:21:11.080 says, when I grow up, I want to be a prostitute. Yeah. No, exactly. You know, not, and not even

00:21:16.300 when you're looking for a job, you know, like maybe I could just sell myself, you know? So those are not

00:21:21.640 real conscious decisions. It's when you fall into that lifestyle of having to get that next fix.

00:21:29.000 That is when you start having to go to the desperate means of selling your body to do that. And so

00:21:33.600 once you do that, of course, then the less you feel about yourself, the more ashamed you are. And that's

00:21:38.360 because that when God, God wrote that sin on your heart, we know that when we do things wrong,

00:21:42.660 we upset the creator of the universe. We know that we're not right with him, but yet then we don't

00:21:47.480 feel worthy enough to go to him. And it's that cycle and the devil telling you, you'll never be

00:21:52.600 good enough even for God. And that is just such a lie. I mean, God is so much bigger than we can ever

00:21:59.500 even imagine. So to understand Jesus and the cross and that it does not matter what your background is,

00:22:07.060 does not matter what you've done. He is there and he can save anybody. And they're learning that here

00:22:15.440 and their lives are changing. And that's what I love about the Bible is that the stories that we

00:22:20.580 get to read are the stories of the people that are unexpected, the people that we feel are

00:22:28.240 unentitled to this, the people that we feel are undeserving. God actually says that he picks the people

00:22:33.380 that you least expect. He picks the weak and the unwise according to the world's standards.

00:22:39.660 And he kind of flips the whole economy of that on its head. And it not only humbles us,

00:22:45.520 but it also allows us to see people equally and see people as on the same level that we are,

00:22:53.800 that we're all dead apart from Christ. And in Christ, we have purpose. And it doesn't matter what

00:22:58.840 you've done in the past. And I think it's really hard for people in the world to see that because

00:23:02.580 it's so counterintuitive and countercultural, but you're right. They are seeing that. And I did want

00:23:09.140 to touch on just one more thing. You talked about that they don't have healthy marriages, which is

00:23:16.960 true for a lot of people in society. The divorce rates are obviously high, but you and Jace are showing

00:23:22.480 them an example of what a godly marriage looks like. So can you give us advice that maybe you

00:23:29.180 would give them as well for a godly marriage, prioritizing your husband when you're busy and

00:23:35.540 have kids and just kind of what that looks like? Yes. Again, I think I'm going back to that word

00:23:41.040 mercy. Yeah. You know, because a lot of little things can add up, but mercy can go a long way because

00:23:49.600 I need it too from him. But, you know, we've, we've worked together for a long time. And I thought

00:23:56.940 when I first, I used to work away from home for many, many years at a doctor's office. Once I started

00:24:02.120 working for Duck Commander, I thought, how's this going to work? I'm going to be with Jace like

00:24:06.520 all day and all night. Like, I don't know if this is going to work or not, but it actually, it did. And

00:24:13.200 we've learned to better communicate. We've learned to, um, kind of, kind of discuss it out emotionally.

00:24:20.020 And then we're okay with that, you know, so we're not scared to tell each other anything and we don't

00:24:25.300 hide anything from each other. So 29 years and I love him so much more than the day I married him.

00:24:33.540 And I really, really love to be with him. And we have a lot of fun together, even though he says we

00:24:38.840 have nothing in common, but Jesus and our kids, but we have a really good time together. We like

00:24:45.340 LSU football too. So I'll say that. So a few, a few things in common, three things in common,

00:24:50.460 Jesus, your kids and football. That's perfect. Um, okay. One, one, actually one more thing. I know

00:24:56.960 I said one more thing. You wrote, uh, a few books for faith girls. Is that correct? You and me have

00:25:03.140 both together. That's so fun. Can you tell people about that and maybe where they can go to look for

00:25:09.380 these books? Sure. It's the faith girl series and it's called princess and camo. It's a four book

00:25:15.780 series and you can find it. It's from Zonder kids, Zonder been publishing. So it's on Amazon and I'm

00:25:21.760 sure there's many other places. They've all been out. Actually, I think yesterday on my Facebook

00:25:27.040 memories, the last two came out a year ago. So they've all been out for one year now and they're

00:25:32.060 just precious. They're good values for preteens. Mia and I wrote them about, uh, her and her cousins

00:25:39.160 that everybody will recognize from Duck Dynasty. And it was really fun because they got to pick

00:25:43.480 their own characters and their names and their hair colors and all of that. So, um, just one example,

00:25:50.120 Bella wanted to, she said, well, I just want my character to be able to sing like Adele and all busted

00:25:56.040 out laughing because Bella's not known for her singing voice. And so they got to pick some

00:26:01.940 really fun characteristics about themselves and it's some really, uh, good, adventurous,

00:26:07.280 fun, encouraging stories. Well, I wanted to bring that up just because people are messaging

00:26:12.820 me all the time, uh, asking me what books are good, not just for them, but for their kids.

00:26:18.320 And I'm always looking for that too, now that I have a daughter. And so I wanted to make sure that

00:26:22.240 people know, like you said, I think you can get it on Amazon. It's under kids. So you can probably

00:26:26.900 just Google it and, um, and purchase those. Uh, is there any last thing that you would like to leave

00:26:34.740 people with? You can of course tell people where they can find you. I think you've already said

00:26:39.440 laminindesigns.com, uh, anything else? Yes. A lot of people, after they hear what we're doing here at

00:26:46.300 Laminin, they're moved and they want to help. And so we get a lot of requests of what can I do? Can I,

00:26:51.980 can I contribute? Can I donate? We're not a charity. Once again, we're a real business. So

00:26:56.440 I have three words for anyone who wants to help us buy the jewelry. The more jewelry we sell,

00:27:03.160 the more women we can hire. And that's the main goal here at Laminin.

00:27:07.120 Awesome. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me.

00:27:11.520 Yes. Thank you for having me. I hope you guys enjoy that conversation. I was so encouraged. I know I

00:27:17.060 said that last week too, when I talked to Dale Partridge, but it's true. I am so encouraged

00:27:21.900 by these conversations of people, uh, not just talking the talk, but walking the walk and giving

00:27:27.380 an example of how we can be the hands and feet of Jesus to people. And I love the thing that I love,

00:27:34.020 and I wanted to bring this up, but I didn't want to derail the conversation because we weren't talking

00:27:38.480 about politics. Um, but when she was talking about giving people a purpose and actually making a profit

00:27:44.340 and making this a real company, now that there's anything wrong with nonprofit organizations and

00:27:49.140 charities, I think that those are awesome too. They serve their own purpose, but having a company

00:27:53.520 where people have this necessary role where they are bringing value, real value to the marketplace

00:27:59.560 because people like their work and like their designs. Uh, that is why that is one example.

00:28:05.840 I know I'm kind of getting off topic, but I didn't want to finish this episode without talking about

00:28:09.560 this. That is why socialism is so stupid. That is why socialism doesn't work because, uh,

00:28:16.300 people were actually created to work. Work is not a product of the fall. A lot of times we see

00:28:21.280 work is inherently bad, but it's not work actually existed. The responsibility that man and woman had,

00:28:27.640 uh, to work and to work the ground and to name the animals and all of that happened before the fall.

00:28:33.600 So what that means is that human beings were originally made to work. We were made to be productive.

00:28:39.500 We were made to create something. We were made to actually earn. Additionally, the idea of private

00:28:45.340 property is also a, uh, biblical idea. Thou shall not covet thou shall not steal. That's getting a

00:28:52.360 little bit off topic. Uh, but the point is that there is purpose and work. There is goodness in

00:28:58.380 work and actually making a profit and making something that people want and need and desire

00:29:04.220 to purchase. That is a good thing. And so I love that she is doing this kind of Christ-like work

00:29:11.040 in a way that is like, Hey, you got to earn your keep. You have to show your worth. You actually

00:29:16.840 have to show up on time and do hard work. That is the beauty part of the beauty of the free market.

00:29:22.900 And part of the evil of socialism is that it takes away that responsibility that we have, uh, to the

00:29:29.280 market. And it makes us in a lot of ways, uh, pretty much purposeless. Now that's not to say that

00:29:35.200 you have to make a profit in order to have purpose. A lot of people are stay at home moms. A lot of people

00:29:40.160 run nonprofits and they're not actually making a profit. Um, but the point is that work in general

00:29:46.340 work that is actually needed, whether it gives a profit or not, gives people a kind of higher

00:29:52.660 calling and purpose that, um, can change their lives and it can change the direction of their

00:30:00.140 journey for the better. So I just wanted to bring that up because that's what I was thinking about

00:30:04.120 the whole time. It's like, this is why socialism is so bad because it robs people. And that is why

00:30:09.040 when people, uh, get out of work, for example, or when they lose their job, they can very often

00:30:13.720 become depressed. They can very often become dejected because the human spirit was made to

00:30:19.800 work. It was made to cultivate. It was made to produce, whether that is raising children or whether

00:30:25.440 that is working as a publicist or an accountant, whatever it is, we are meant to have purpose. Uh, not

00:30:31.700 only, uh, the purpose of being Christians and laying ourselves down for the cause of Christ,

00:30:37.280 but also we are just, uh, we are made to have an endeavor on earth and to make the tiny plot of

00:30:44.260 earth that we have around us better. So that's, that's just one thought that I wanted to add.

00:30:49.620 I didn't want to say it to her cause I didn't want to derail the conversation, but I wanted to make

00:30:53.020 sure that I added that in anyway. I hope that you guys enjoyed that conversation. Make sure to go to

00:30:58.440 laminondesigns.com. You can use promo code relatable and you will get a discount on their products.

00:31:05.280 I am going to do that right now. I'm really excited to get some new jewelry. Awesome company,

00:31:09.980 awesome mission. So make sure you go to laminondesigns.com and use their promo code

00:31:14.740 relatable. That is it for today. I will see you guys back here on Monday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - September 06, 2019

Ep 159 ｜ Missy Robertson

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