Ep 164 | Kavanaugh Continued
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In this episode, I discuss the New York Times report and how we should view the latest batch of allegations against Brett Kavanagh, and the broader Me Too movement. I also discuss Christine Blasey Ford's testimony and why she may not have been lying.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. I hope everyone's having a wonderful week. Today we are going to
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discuss the botched Kavanaugh allegations issued by the New York Times over the weekend and then
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how we should view stories like this as well as the wider Me Too movement. Okay, let's go ahead
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and talk about all of this craziness. So for those of you who are listening to my podcast a year ago
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or you were following me on social media a year ago, you know that I passionately followed and
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commentated on the Kavanaugh drama that happened I think almost exactly a year ago this week. That's
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when all of that started. If you don't know if last year you were living under a rock or something,
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Brett Kavanaugh was nominated by President Trump to the Supreme Court soon after his nomination.
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It was announced by Senator Dianne Feinstein from California that she had received
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allegations of sexual assault from a high school classmate of Kavanaugh's named Christine Blasey
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Ford. The media trotted out a couple other women who also had accusations against Kavanaugh. One
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named Julie Swetnick, whose attorney was the very credible and honorable Michael Avenatti. She claimed
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and Avenatti put out in a press release or something that Kavanaugh was a part of a gang raping group
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at parties that she attended while Kavanaugh was in college and she was in high school and that he would
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line up outside a room and he would take his turn with whatever young lady was intoxicated
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in the room. She later was interviewed by MSNBC and she admitted that she didn't actually know if
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Kavanaugh was at these parties or if he took part in any of the behavior that she had described to
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Avenatti. So that's great. Debra Ramirez was a Yale classmate and accused Kavanaugh of exposing himself
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to her at a party, but she only came up with this accusation after six days spent with her lawyers.
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She at first said she didn't know if it was Kavanaugh or not, but then after she hashed all of this out
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with her lawyers over the span of about a week, she said, oh yes, this thing that happened 30 years
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ago, it was definitely Brett Kavanaugh. So there is no evidence at all to corroborate not only these
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stories, but also the biggest story or the story that got the most publicity, Blasey Ford's. There
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were details missing from her testimony. Her lawyer was a lawyer for Hillary Clinton. That of course
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doesn't automatically mean that she was telling a lie, but it makes it a little bit more suspect
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or it kind of makes us think a little bit harder. She may have not been lying. I mean, we weren't
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there, so no one is going to know for sure. But the facts simply were not on her side. And that's
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the truth of the matter. And even though we were not in a court of law or they were not in a court of
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law, America does have the principle of due process and of innocent until proven guilty. And most
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conservatives believed that Kavanaugh should get to enjoy that right in these hearings, especially
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especially since Blasey Ford lacked substantial evidence. If you want a more detailed account of what
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happened last year, I did an episode. It was episode 38 of Relatable titled Before Believing
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Kavanaugh's Accuser. As a refresher, here's a part of Ford's testimony followed by a part of Kavanaugh's
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testimony. I believed he was going to rape me. I tried to yell for help. When I did, Brett put his
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hand over my mouth to stop me from yelling. This is what terrified me the most and has had the most
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lasting impact on my life. It was hard for me to breathe. And I thought that Brett was accidentally
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going to kill me. At a time when I'm called evil by a Democratic member of this committee, while
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Democratic opponents of my nomination say people will die if I am confirmed. This onslaught of last
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minute allegations does not ring true. I'm not questioning that Dr. Ford may have been sexually
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assaulted by some person in some place at some time. But I have never done this to her or to anyone.
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That's not who I am. It is not who I was. I am innocent of this charge. I intend no ill will to Dr.
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Ford and her family. The other night Ashley and my daughter Liza said their prayers and little Liza
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all 10 years old. Said to Ashley, we should pray for the woman.
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So I remember I was in the Washington Reagan airport watching this on my computer.
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I even watched it on the plane and I kept on refreshing my page to make sure I could get as
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good of Wi-Fi as I could possibly get so I wouldn't miss anything. And while I did, I remember I found
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Ford very compelling. She was obviously very vulnerable and very emotional. So I found that
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somewhat convincing. But then when I watched Kavanaugh's testimony, it was totally over. Not only his
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passion, but every detail of his defense, his wife. This is, you know, of course, a more emotional
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perspective, but his wife sitting behind him tearing up. I was just completely undone by the
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whole thing. I just kind of lost it. I just I couldn't take it anymore. After watching Kavanaugh's
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testimony, thinking about what the Democrats in Congress and a lot of people on the left had done
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to him, just dragged him and his family and his name through the mud based on a story that they don't
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even know is true. Someone told me later that they felt that I had been radicalized after the whole
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Kavanaugh saga. And I think that is actually true. I think that for the first time, I saw that some
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people on the left, they're purely a political motives, at least while I will say partly political
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motives pushed them to decimate a man's career or tried to decimate a man's career and a man's
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reputation to get what they want. They were perfectly OK with ruining a man's life, a man with a
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sterling reputation throughout every stage of his career thus far because they were afraid of how
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he would rule on cases that matter to them. That was just too far for me. I didn't want to envision
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a world in which that became the norm. I didn't know what kind of justice he would be exactly. There
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was a lot of conflicting evidence for whether or not he was a strict constitutionalist. It doesn't
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really seem like he is. I, of course, was very open about the fact that I wanted him to lean in the
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anti-abortion direction, anti-Planned Parenthood direction. And I do hope that Kavanaugh will be
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on the correct side for these kinds of cases. But I don't really I don't know what I didn't really
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know back then. What got me about all of this, what really pushed me over the edge was the cruel
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nature and the relentlessness of some of his opposition that showed me a picture of partisan
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divisiveness in America that I just can't stomach, that I just don't want to tolerate. One where we are
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perfectly fine with ruining people's lives, destroying their families, ruining their reputations
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based on stories that don't even add up and have no cooperation whatsoever, just because we may not
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like their politics. I didn't want to live in a world like that, a world without due process, a world
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where if you fall on the more privileged side of the intersectionality scale, then your credibility
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is automatically shot. It doesn't matter if the story doesn't add up or not. It doesn't matter
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if the facts don't align. You are automatically because of your politics, because of where your
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station is in the world, you are automatically disbelieved. I don't want to live in a world
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like that. I don't want that for either side. I don't want that for someone who is on the laughter
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or someone who is on the right. I don't want that for your family. I don't want that for your career.
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I don't want your life to be ruined just because I disagree with you or just because I don't like
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you. That is unjust. And I truly I don't want injustice for anyone. And that included and includes
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Kavanaugh. That's why I was so worked up about this whole thing. If political enemies are willing
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to do that, if they are willing to go that far, then that means they will stop at nothing. They
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won't care if your kids are harassed at school now because of unsubstantiated claims about you.
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They won't care if you can never go in public again without being assaulted. They will not care
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if you lose your job. They will not care if the story is true or not. If it fits the narrative,
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they will bully as many people as possible into helping them make your life miserable.
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Believe women was the mantra of these people. And I really I can't think of a more patronizing or less
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just idea than that or mantra than that or worldview than that. Why should we automatically believe a
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woman? OK, your friend maybe or someone whose character that you know, someone that you trust
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really well, maybe you'll automatically believe them and that's fine. But why should we believe
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all women just because they're a woman no matter what? We should weigh the facts and testimonies
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we have and do our best to come up with a judicious conclusion. But that doesn't mean that we have to
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believe someone just because of what genitalia they have. A belief woman only makes sense if you do not
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believe in objective truth. And unfortunately, a lot of the opposition and just a lot of people on the
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left, that's the nature of leftism in general, is that they they don't believe in absolute truth.
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Remember, as AOC said, as AOC said, it is more important. It is OK to be morally right and
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factually incorrect. Joe Biden said something similar. He said the truth is more important
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than facts. We now live in a world, apparently, where we can separate truth from facts and we can
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decide which one fits our narrative and go that direction. So that's what we see a lot of people
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who not just oppose Kavanaugh, but just people in the media in general do. They have a conclusion that
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they've decided is morally right. And then they will fit facts into that conclusion and throw the
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facts out that don't fit into that conclusion and make things up and present them as fact to support
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that conclusion. So rather than supporting the facts and then allowing you to come up with the
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conclusion, they start out with a foregone conclusion and then they fit the different
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points to fit into that. That is reporting today. And of course, the whole Kavanaugh thing was no
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exception. We saw this in the New York Times over the weekend in their opinion section, which has truly
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been even CNN is saying this truly been in disarray for a few years now. A piece written by Kate Kelly
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and Robin Pogrebin. I can't say that I know how to pronounce her last name revealed by revealed
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another woman, an allegation by another woman by the name of Harmon Joyce that that said that Kavanaugh
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also exposed himself to her at a party. The article was adapted from their book, The Education of Brett
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Kavanaugh. Apparently, they have been investigating him for the past 10 months. But in this article in
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the New York Times, they left out a key point that Molly Hemingway, she works at the Federalist. She
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had already read an advanced copy of this book. She pointed out on Twitter that this alleged victim
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that they were talking about in this article never agreed to be interviewed. So they never even talked
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to her. Later, she said that she didn't recall this incident at all that they're talking about.
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The only person who said that this happened was Max Steyer. He was a classmate and he's a lawyer that
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is now connected to the Clintons. And he actually didn't even provide them with the account that they
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used. Other people who communicated with Steyer and then communicated with these authors were
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authors were the ones who provided this account. So when this was pointed out, the New York Times issued
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a correction, you know, postscript clarifying all of this. But of course, the damage had already been
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done. This seems to be a pattern, not just by the New York Times, but also the Washington Post
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to write something completely erroneous, get everyone worked up about it, raise hysteria and
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then say, oh, just kidding. Sorry, that wasn't actually true. But people have already started
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freaking out and doesn't matter. And that's exactly what we saw in this whole thing. After the article
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was published, every single Democratic candidate called for his impeachment. In addition to other
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Democrats who are in Congress, every liberal news network went crazy with the allegations.
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Democrats are still going in on this. They're still insisting that he needs to be impeached,
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despite the fact that these allegations are even weaker than the first allegations that we heard
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about a year ago. Ayanna Pressley, she's a Democratic member of the House. She is part of the squad with
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Ilhan Omar, AOC, Rashida Tlaib. She is filing an impeachment resolution. She said on a Boston public
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radio station, sexual predators do not deserve a seat on the nation's highest court. And Brett
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Kavanaugh's confirmation process set a dangerous precedent. She also said we must demand justice for
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survivors and hold Kavanaugh accountable for his actions, except that we don't actually have any
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evidence for his actions. We don't even have any kind of sensical testimony to say that there are
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grounds for impeachment. And yet we're running with this anyway. The reason that Representative
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Presley and other Democrats and people on the left are willing to speak so confidently about this
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without any regard to Kavanaugh whatsoever, without any regard to the truth is not just for political
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reasons. Yes, I do think that they probably believe that he's too conservative. He's too much of a
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constitutionalist. They're afraid of the future of abortion. Oh, no. But I also think there's a grander
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narrative going on here, and that is the grander narrative of social justice. That's the grander
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narrative of intersectionality, which is the fuel of modern day social justice. Intersectionality, as we've
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talked about many times on this podcast, is the oppressed versus the oppressor. Because Kavanaugh is
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generally conservative, because he is a straight white Catholic male, because he comes from a well-to-do
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family with an Ivy League education, he is automatically assumed to be in the wrong because he lacks
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oppression points. That's what intersectionality is built on. It describes oppression points to certain
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people based on their skin color, religion, etc. You know how I know this? Because the title of this
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article, this botched article in the New York Times, was this. Brett Kavanaugh fit in with the privileged
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kids. She did not. So this is no longer about the premise of this. The central point of this article is
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no longer about whether or not he's a sexual assaulter, whether or not we have an alleged or accused or
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credible rapist on the Supreme Court. It's about the fact that he was privileged, and apparently
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this supposed victim was not. It's about Kavanaugh being on the side of the oppressor. He embodies
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so much, it seems like, of what the left hates. He is the archetype of the oppressor because of his
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skin color, because of his socioeconomic status, because of his religion. None of these things,
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his race or his wealth or his faith or anything like that, would matter if he was a hardcore leftist.
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It'd be totally fine if he was worth millions of dollars, if he was, you know, a privileged white
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guy as long as he was on the left. But because he's Catholic and because he leans conservative,
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it is all a huge problem. Being liberal automatically gives you favorable ratings on the intersectionality
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scale. And this is the, of course, inherent injustice of intersectionality. So rather than looking at facts,
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rather than seeing people as individuals, it sees people as member, members of collections and
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ascribes credibility to them based on how oppressed they are or how liberal they are. Intersectionality
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is the fuel, as we've already said, of the social justice movement, which is why, as I've said so many
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times, social justice is not justice. It's not justice. It is what Thomas Sowell calls cosmic justice.
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It is this arbitrary equation of trying to push some people back that are more privileged than
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others, trying to push people forward that are less privileged than others until you have this
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completely equitable and equal utopia that just doesn't exist. So in the case of Kavanaugh and Ford,
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for example, you've got two pretty privileged, white, well-educated people, but Ford is a woman.
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So in their eyes, she has more oppression points than he does. So we have to believe her.
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This is how this all works. This is the lens through which much of the modern left
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sees the world and sees every issue, every case, every conflict. And when you realize,
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when you realize that you understand why they report and why they react the way that they do.
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Covington Catholic boys with the Native American man, Nathan Phillips, that happened, I think it was,
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I think it was January because it was March for Life. It was immediately reported by leftist news
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outlets that these kids wearing MAGA hats were harassing and intimidating them.
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And that wasn't the case at all. Nathan Phillips was actually the one who approached them and the
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black Hebrew nationalists surrounding them were the one throwing out racial and homophobic slurs.
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Same with Jussie Smollett. He was believed immediately. Cory Booker passed an anti-lynching
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bill because of his story. Kamala Harris, of course, expressed outrage, but it wasn't true.
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We just believed him because he was a gay black man who, of course,
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was attacked by two white dudes wearing MAGA hats in a polar vortex in the middle of
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the night in Chicago. Of course, that has to be true. Why? Because of intersectionality. But
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it turned out to be a giant hoax. This is also why Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib get away with being
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anti-Semitic. On the intersectionality scale, Muslims are more oppressed than Jews. So it's okay to hang
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out with literal Islamic terrorists and retweet anti-Semitic cartoon artists and make anti-Semitic
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jokes. It's fine because they are Muslim women of color. And if you criticize them for anything they
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do, then you are accused of inciting violence against them. Apparently it's not fair game at
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all. So intersectional social justice is the larger story and the larger narrative behind the character
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assassination of Brett Kavanaugh. It's just it's not just political. It's not just about Roe v. Wade or
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abortion. This is the same guy that Ruth Bader Ginsburg has praised, has said is a very worthy
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colleague. Like I said before, I don't believe that this is a sustainable system for anyone, right, or
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left, no matter what your race or your background is. I don't want anyone, regardless of their
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political affiliation, regardless of their faith, regardless of their nationality, to be ruined by
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unproven allegations. I just don't think that's fair. I don't want that for you. No matter how much you
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want that for me, I don't want that for you. And as Christians, we should always be on the side of
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justice and truth. In the case of Kavanaugh, God may only know the full story. We may never
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completely know 100% what happened 30 years ago. But as believers in objective truth, as believers
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in fairness and justice, we should side, not based on, we should pick our side, not based on emotion,
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on political association or the intersectionality scale, but on what facts we know. And we also have
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to view people as individuals, not part of a collection or part of an oppression group. We
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discern as much as we can based on the information that we have. And while we will never fully be able
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to exonerate someone, or at least in this case, we won't be able to exonerate someone just because
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we don't know for sure we weren't there. We also can't accuse someone of being guilty without knowing
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what is actually true. Right and left Christians should oppose the lack of integrity demonstrated by
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the New York Times. We should be lovers of truth and trustworthiness. This would be the same whether
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it was Fox News as well. It doesn't matter if it's the New York Times. We should be lovers and
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adheres to truth. The biblical worldview should always seek to know as much as we can about what is true.
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That's another problem with the secular view of justice, social or cosmic justice, is that it doesn't
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know what to do with truth. It doesn't know what to do with right and wrong. As we've already said,
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it's subjective and it's arbitrary. And so it doesn't know how to deal with true evil. It comes
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up with its own idea for evil, which again is based on these very superficial qualifications of
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your skin color and your background. Oh, you're more privileged. And so you must be oppressing this
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person or you must be guilty. You must be on the side that is wrong. And that's the problem with moral
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relativism. That's the problem when you don't believe that God is the supreme moral lawgiver. You don't
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believe that God is the supreme arbiter of what is right and wrong. You're left to your own devices
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to figure out what is true and what is not and what is just and what is not. That's why we get
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in all of these conflicts. And that is why the best that the world can come up with when it comes to a
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system of justice is intersectionality. And what we find is that intersectionality is always tripping
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over itself. It is always conflicting. It's always disagreeing with its own ideology. It can't keep
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up with itself. And that's what we see, not just in this, but in every story that we listed before.
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It's just not a sustainable system of justice. And Christians should be okay with that. We should
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be happy with that because the system of justice that God sets up, one that punishes people individually
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based on their own crimes, not on the crimes of generations before them or generations of the
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groups they're a part of, not the crimes of people who share their skin color, one that is based on
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truth, one that is based on fact, one that is equitable, that it doesn't favor the rich.
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It also doesn't favor the poor, one that is unbiased, why we should be okay. We should rejoice
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in the fact that God has set up a kind of justice, a kind of idea of justice that we can follow is
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because it deals so much better with wrong and with evil and with vengeance than worldly systems ever
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could. I know we hear so often separation of church and state. America was not founded on Christian
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values. Well, that's not true. My friend, Jeff Durbin says separation of church and state is
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not the same thing as separation between God and law. And that's absolutely true. If God is the
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supreme moral law giver, as C.S. Lewis talks about in mere Christianity, then there's just no coming up
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with truth or coming up with a real dichotomy of right and wrong without him. We can't exclude him
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when it comes to coming up with justice. And that is why it is not okay for Christians to latch on
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to this kind of social justice that's fueled by intersectionality that is completely unbiblical.
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It is the secular effort to try to come up with right and wrong while still perpetrating and
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propagating moral relativism. We've talked about before the problem with that, the inherent problem
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with that, if you didn't already hear the paradox in it, is that moral relativism saying that whatever
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is right for this person is right for this person. Whatever is right for that person is right for that
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person. The problem with it is that that in and of itself is an absolute truth. That is an absolute
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morality because you're saying anyone else who isn't morally relative, anyone else who believes that
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moral relativism is wrong or morality is actually universal, you're saying that they're wrong. But if
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morality is really relative, how can you say that that person is wrong and your person is right? So it
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doesn't work. And intersectionality strangely kind of falls under this world of moral relativism. That's
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because when we believe that we're the only people that come up with our own truth and our own idea
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of what is just and what is not, we constantly find ourselves in a state of contradiction. We
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constantly find ourselves in a state of hypocrisy. And that's what we continually see on the left when
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it comes to assigning and ascribing guilt. There was a story, and this is totally different,
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it just came to my mind. There was a story that I read of a Honduran native. He was in Maryland. He
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raped a six-year-old girl. He told the six-year-old girl, if you tell anyone, then I will ground you for
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a hundred days. Thankfully, he faces 155 years in prison. That's great. Obviously, he shouldn't have
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been here in the first place. He was an illegal immigrant. The crime wouldn't have happened if he
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hadn't been here. But the thing that comforts me, and I think it does tie into all of this when we're
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talking about what justice actually is based on truth, what comforts me when I read horrific stories
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like that that just scare me, make my skin crawl, make me want to punch this guy in the face, the
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thing that comforts me is that God is the God of justice and that he knows so much better to deal
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with truth, to deal with right, to deal with wrong than we do. He has a much better way of exacting
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vengeance and repaying wrong than we do. The moral of the story is the secular world doesn't know how
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to deal with right and wrong. They don't know how to deal with justice. They don't know how to deal
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with truth. They constantly want to separate what is actually true from what they feel to be true.
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And that's what happens when you create a world of moral relativism. Moral relativism doesn't work.
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It's just not a sustainable worldview. Yet, if you talk to most people on the left, they would say
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morality is true for you. It's true for me, whatever you want it to be, your truth, my truth.
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It's completely subjective. It's not universal at all. And yet, at the same time, if you don't
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believe that morality is relative or if you don't believe in their version of morality, if you don't
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ascribe to intersectionality, for example, or you don't hop onto their social justice causes, well,
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they call you a bigot. They call you wrong. They call you on the wrong side of history. They call you
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evil Nazi, whatever. So even the people that are perpetrating this idea of moral relativism,
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we see, especially in this whole Kavanaugh thing, the outrage that they have is that they don't
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actually believe that morality is relative. They actually believe if you don't believe in their
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view of morality, then you are condemned to their own version of at least a proverbial kind of hell.
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And that just shows us that the outside world that doesn't believe that God is the supreme moral
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lawgiver, that he is the transcendent moral lawgiver, that he is the one that says what
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is right and wrong. They're constantly tripping over themselves. They're constantly confused. They
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are constantly in conflict. Intersectionality just is not a sustainable system of justice.
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A political vengeance is not a sustainable system of justice. Deciding that someone is wrong because
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they're conservative or deciding that someone is wrong because of the color of their skin, whether
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you're white or black or Asian, whatever it is, is not a sustainable system of justice. And it's not
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one that glorifies God, no matter who is in the hot seat. So that's what Christians need to take
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away from this. And we need to find comfort in the fact that God and his idea of right and wrong
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that is based on truth, that is for the individual, not blaming entire people based on whatever
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group, oppression groups they're a part of, whether they are the world's version of a victim or an
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oppressor or not. God's justice that is based on truth, that is individual, that shows no partiality
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to the rich, that shows no partiality to the poor, that is unbiased, that is equitable,
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that is equal. We should find comfort in the fact that we don't have to be confused. Like we don't
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have to be caught up in this secular social justice craziness that doesn't know up from down or right
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from wrong. These people who espouse moral relativism and yet assert that if you don't believe
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the way that they do, that you're absolutely wrong. They're confused. But we don't have to be
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confused. We have a God who knows good versus evil, even when we don't, who knows right and
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wrong, even when we don't. So our responsibility as Christians is just to go in the direction of
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where we see truth. Again, that doesn't mean that we uplift the side that agrees with us as perfect
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and as holy and as can never do anything wrong. It doesn't mean that we demonize our political
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enemies as people who can always and never do anything right and always do something wrong.
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It means that we are on the side of truth. And when reporters or when whoever lack integrity,
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when they lie, that should bother us. That should bother us as image bearers of God,
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a God who loves truth. So I am very thankful to have a God of justice. I'm very thankful that
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as image bearers of Christ, that we can love justice, that we can love truth. That doesn't
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mean that we're going to be perfect. That doesn't mean that we know everything. Of course, we are
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going to slip and fall. We're going to be on the wrong side of things sometimes. But the fact of the
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matter is, is that one day we won't have any questions about this. We won't have any confusion. We won't
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have any chaos. We won't have any conflict. We won't have to worry about these stupid political
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stories anymore because Jesus will rule in perfect peace. And that's the thing that we have to look
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forward to. Until then, it is our responsibility to seek truth and to be on the side of truth at least
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as much as we possibly can. And not to demonize those who disagree with us. I think that Christians
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in good faith can disagree on the Kavanaugh thing. But of course, we need to be careful why we're
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taking the stance that we are and what the reasoning is behind our viewpoint on that.
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So that is all that I have today. Thank you guys so much for listening. If you have any
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