Ep 195 | Why God Is A "He"
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Is God a he or a she in the Bible? What does the Bible say about God's gender? Is he male or female? What is the difference between God and Ariana Grande's song, "God Is a Woman" and "God is a He"?
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Hey guys, happy Monday. Welcome to Relatable. I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. I think
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we can agree now that it's acceptable for us to be listening to Christmas music, to put up our
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Christmas decorations, and to be excited about the Christmas season, right? There are some of
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you out there who are like bah humbug until December 24th. You're like, not until Christmas
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Eve, actually midnight of Christmas Eve, can we even utter the word Christmas? But I would say
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that most people have accepted at this point that we can be celebrating the holiday season. So I hope
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that you guys are enjoying that. I would love to hear some of your Christmas traditions. I don't
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know if we had a ton of Christmas traditions growing up. And so I would really like to establish some
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now that we have a baby and we're our own little family. And so I would love to hear some of the
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things that you guys do. That's not what we're talking about today. Maybe I'll talk about it a
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little bit more because there is kind of a smorgasbord of things that we are talking about
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today. But the main thing we're talking about are the thing that I want to talk about first,
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at least quickly, because I saw this kind of circulating on social media and I've seen it a
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million times and it's important to talk about. And that is why God is referred to as a he and why he
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is necessarily referred to as he. Believe it or not, there are people who push back on this. And this is
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not a new thing. People have been pushing back on this for probably decades, but especially when
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third wave feminism seems to be at its like all time fiercest and ugliest, they are trying to
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manipulate God into being something that he is not. I heard this myth perpetuated on social media the
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other day that God was never gendered as male in the Bible, that it was never really he.
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And that actually was added much later because of the patriarchy. That's not true. We'll get into
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a little bit of that in just a second. Okay, so we're going to answer a few questions today that
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you guys have. I get so many emails, so many messages every day, either asking like personal
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advice or asking me what I think about a particular biblical passage or an opinion that someone has
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shared on social media or a news story. And I don't have time to be able to answer them all.
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Although I love, I love to answer you guys. I love to message you guys back when I have the
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opportunity. I just am not always able to. So today I'm taking some of the questions that you
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guys have. And one of the questions that I've been asked multiple times, and like I said,
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I've seen this kind of circulating on social media is, is God necessarily a he in the Bible? And this is
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different than our typical Theology Monday podcast in which we take, you know, one subject,
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one theme, one cultural happening. And we say, okay, here's what the Bible has to say about this
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thing. Here's how Christians from a biblical perspective can analyze this particular topic.
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We've been going through most misused. Last week we did Matthew 7, 1, judge not lest you be judged,
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and how that's often decontextualized and misapplied. We've done Psalm 37, 4, delight yourself in the
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Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart. What that actually means, and we will pick back up on
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that. We're going to do that series here and there. You guys have been sending me a lot of
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verses that you want to dive into, and I'm excited about that. But today I just want to take some of
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your, take some of your questions and the things that you guys are interested in knowing a little
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bit more about or talking about, because I don't always have the opportunity to do that on social
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media and via email when you send them. So like I said, this idea that God may not be a man,
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that he could be a woman, you know, the Ariana Grande song, that God is a woman. Of course,
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I don't think she's talking about like Yahweh there. She is making some kind of weird reference
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that I don't understand because I'm not cool anymore and I'm just not into pop culture. And so
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I think it's some kind of metaphor, but I don't know. But this idea, I actually saw Glennon Doyle,
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you know, she is, was the mommy blogger. Now she's an activist, social media person. Anyway,
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she, uh, refers to God as she often, and that's kind of part of her brand now. And then I saw a
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comment the other day that said, not by her, but by someone else saying, you know, God was never
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really referred to as he, that's something that's a tool, that's a product of the patriarchy. So
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here's my response to that. Since a lot of you guys have asked me to talk about that. Obviously,
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that's not true. Obviously it's not true that God was gendered later. Now, maybe there is some
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historical fact about biblical interpretation that I don't know, but even if that was true,
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even if God was referred to as they, instead of he until a certain point and they changed it,
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I'm not saying that's true, but even if that were true, uh, that does not erase the fact that God is
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necessarily a he, why? Because he's not just he, he is also Lord. He is also King. He is also Prince of
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Peace. He is also father. He is also these very specifically male terms. And why is that? Why
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is God a he? Well, he is father because, uh, there is a human need for a father that is unlike our need
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for a mother and God himself fills that need. There is a need for a leader in a King that is
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different than a need, uh, for a queen or the role that a queen can fill. There is a need for a Prince
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of Peace that is, uh, different and more dynamic than anything, uh, a female character of the same
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equivalent could offer. It is important that God is a male because male is represented as headship in
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the Bible and he created it that way. Adam is created first. Eve is created out of Adam. Um,
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Christ is depicted as a warrior, as a savior. That is a man. Of course, we know that God made flesh.
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Jesus came down as a real human man. God is a male for a reason. It's so funny to me that all of these
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people so concerned with misgendering won't, uh, apply God's preferred, uh, gender pronouns to himself.
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Yes. God is a male in the sense that he refers to himself as a father, as a King, as a Prince of
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Peace, as a Lord of Lords. Uh, this is absolutely necessary and there's really no way to get around
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it. My thing is if that triggers you, if you are triggered by God being a father, then there
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probably, and I say this truly lovingly, you've probably got daddy issues that you need to deal
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with yourself. Like there are probably some heart issues in there. If the idea of God being a loving
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father and a sovereign King triggers you or throws you off. And I mean, trigger sincerely, like if that
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makes you angry or if that offends you, then you need to probably dig into your own heart and see what
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past pain, uh, you might be dealing with from, I don't know if it's your father or the men in your
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life or what idols you're holding onto. If your idol is feminism, yes, it's going to be very difficult
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for you to see God, the authority, uh, of heaven and earth, the person that you are subject to.
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It's going to be hard for you to see him as a man. And I'm not saying that God, the father is a man as
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we, as we see him, but he refers to himself in, uh, these, uh, in these male ways. Uh, that would
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be very hard for you if you have an idol of feminism, but I would encourage you to let go of
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that. And I would encourage you to see actually the beauty and the grace and the mercy of viewing God
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as he depicts himself in the Bible, that maybe there's actually a void in your life, um, of the
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kind of fatherly love that God gives us and demonstrates throughout scripture. So this is
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not even a point of contention that Christians should entertain. It's not even interesting to
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say, well, maybe God was gender fluid. Maybe, you know, Jesus was gender fluid. Some people have
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argued that some people have argued that Jesus is effeminate. All of that is utter blasphemy. All of
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that is trying to make God in our image rather than remembering that we are made in his image because we
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are made in his image because he is the authority, because he tells us what is and what isn't, what's
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true, what's false, what's good. And what's bad. We can look at God's word and trust that he is who
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he says he is. Again, it's not just about, Oh, did someone, you know, 2000 years ago change the word
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they to he it's how God refers to himself throughout the Bible and what his fatherness, his kingship
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actually represents as not just the head of the church, but the head of the universe. That is why that
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is important. Man is depicted as the source of woman in Adam and Eve and Jesus as the head of the
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church. And that is a male role in the same way that a husband is the head of the wife. Christ is
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the head of the church. That is purposeful. That is purposeful. And again, that goes into kind of the
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conversation that we've had about the importance of biblical marriage, that biblical marriage is not
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just a matter. We didn't just get that from a few random verses that speak about homosexuality. We
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get that from the beginning of Genesis, how God defines marriage as between one man and one woman.
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And we also see that reiterated in the new Testament as a reflection of Christ and the church. The male
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and female dynamic is necessary for Christian marriage. We see that reiterated over and over again
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throughout the Bible. And in the new Testament, all the way into revelation, we see the gospel,
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spiritual, spiritual, eternal significance of that specific dichotomy of a male and female
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in covenantal marriage and that representing Christ in the church. So it's much bigger than,
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again, people either saying, oh, they're just a few pronouns or they're just a couple of verses
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about what marriage is. If you are looking at the Bible with the question of how can I fit this
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scripture into my worldview, you're always going to come up with kooky stuff like that.
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I heard someone the other day saying it was an amazing interpretation. It was this video that
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was going around and it was this female pastor. So there you go. But she was saying, yes, women are
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able to lead churches. They're able to, you know, pastor men and all of that. And we actually know
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that that's forbidden in scripture. And she was saying the reason is, is because, okay, Jesus is the
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word made flesh. And if Mary delivered the word, then we too are able to deliver the word. We too
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are able to deliver Jesus. First of all, that's not what that verse means. She actually starts out
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the video saying, blah, blah, blah, word made flesh. So, you know, you know, when people refer to
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scripture as blah, blah, blah, that it's probably going to be something very inspired coming out of
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their mouths next. So not only is that not what that verse means and not what Mary's delivery
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actually means for women, because it's the Bible doesn't contradict itself. That is obviously
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incorrect. And that's exactly what happens. That's exactly what happens when we look at scripture and
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we ask the question, how can I fit scripture into my preconceived notions of what the world is or my
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own personal worldview or my subjective feelings? How can I be as, as little inconvenience as possible?
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How can I feel as good about myself as possible? When I look at scripture, how can I avoid repentance
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as much as possible, avoid sanctification as much as possible? How can I stay as comfortable as
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possible? If that is your idea, when you are looking at scripture, or if you are trying to fit scripture,
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certain verses into your worldview, rather than trying to subject your worldview and subject your opinions
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and subject your feelings and your comfort and all of that to scripture, then we're always going to
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come up with kooky ideas of, oh no, God didn't really mean that marriage is between a man and a
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woman. Oh no, God didn't really mean that male and female are different. God didn't really mean that
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the husband is the head of the wife. God didn't really mean that a woman isn't supposed to teach a man
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in church or lead a local church. God didn't really mean those things. Surely he didn't really mean that we
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were supposed to repent from our sins. Surely he didn't mean all of that because God didn't know
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the things that we would be going through right now. God didn't know how we would feel. God didn't
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know all of the things that would be popular. So surely God didn't mean what he said in the Bible,
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right? And then you start getting people saying things like, Paul's not Jesus. Paul's different than
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Jesus. And what Paul said, we can kind of take it or leave it. That's amazing hubris, by the way,
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to be able for you to decide what part of the biblical canon has authority and which one doesn't,
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even though scripture says that everything is, that all scripture is God-breathed. So you get
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people saying things like that. They separate the words of Jesus from the words of Paul, thinking that
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that is going to give them an out. Well, that, when people tell you Jesus is not Paul, or when people
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tell you, you know, Paul's word isn't inerrant. Yes, Paul's word isn't inerrant, but what is in the
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biblical canon we believe is inerrant because it's fully inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore
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it's sufficient for our instruction and encouragement and reproof and all of that. So someone who disregards
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the words of Paul is not really important or just suggestions or just opinions, they have a
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fundamental misunderstanding of scripture and a fundamental misunderstanding, I would say, of the
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Trinity. Because if the word of God is inspired by the Holy Spirit and Jesus and the Holy Spirit
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are three in one with the Father, then Jesus's words and Paul's words, or God through Paul,
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we don't separate them and say, okay, you know, wine is one we should listen to, one we shouldn't
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listen to. No, we listen to all of it because it's all God's word. That's why we call the Bible God's
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word, not just the red letters that Jesus said God's word. We call all of it God's word. And plus
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it's people think that, oh, if I just read what Jesus said, then I don't have to worry about the
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sin stuff. Jesus talks about hell more than he talks about heaven. I sometimes wonder if the people
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who call themselves, you know, red letter Christians who say, let's just focus on what Jesus said, not what
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Paul said or anything else in the Bible. Like, have you actually read what Jesus says though? He's a
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pretty intense guy. He's a pretty intense God. He cares about sin. Do you remember the part when he
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went to the cross? He died for your sin? Yeah, that's how much he cares about it. He died a death
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that he didn't have to die. He lived a life that he didn't have to live to pay for your sin. How dare
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us keep on sinning and rejoice over our sin, celebrate our sin, and try to fit our sin into scripture or try to
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fit scripture into our sin when he paid the price for that sin already. I sometimes wonder if the
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people who say, let's just listen to Jesus and not the rest of the Bible have actually listened to
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Jesus. But like I said, when you go to the Bible and you say, what can I get away with? How can I stay
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the most comfortable possible? How can I not have any of my feelings or desires challenged at all? You're
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going to come up with some really kooky theology. But when we go into the Bible and we ask the question,
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who is God and what is his will, then that starts to change us. That starts to change us. And if we
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pray for wisdom and we study scripture, we meditate on scripture, then we will change. God will change
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us from the inside out. That is the power of his word through the Holy Spirit. That's the amazing
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thing. But if we are using scripture as a means to our either political ends, social ends, personal
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ends, relational ends, then we won't end up changing. We'll actually end up growing very bitter and
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confused and disappointed. And very likely we will end up losing faith if, you know, for lack of a better
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term, losing faith altogether, because the Bible no longer really fits into what we believe anymore.
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Eventually, you'll say the Bible is not even really necessary for me to build my worldview. If you're just
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picking and choosing verses to fit into what you what you want to believe. So again, my encouragement
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is that when we go to the word of God, whether we're, you know, trying to figure out whether or
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not God really refers to himself as a male for our purpose, whether we're trying to figure out marriage
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or the roles of men and women, the role of the church and all of that, our question is, who is God
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and what's his will? And how can we best conform to that so that we can better worship him, which is the
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sole goal of our entire lives? Okay, now I'm going to answer some of your questions.
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So here is here's an awesome question that really goes with this. So someone asked me
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biblical texts to refute the claim that God is sexist. So this is what I like to do when people
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try to throw something like that at me. And they, they think that they have caught me not this person
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who's asking the question. But I'm guessing someone asked you this question, and they're trying to catch
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you in this trap. And people who ask me, you know, isn't God sexist? They're just trying to trap you.
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They think that they've got you. They don't actually really want to know the answer to it.
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But what I like to do is to ask questions. So why do you think God is sexist? What makes you think
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God is sexist? Because what people who, you know, don't like Christianity, who want to disprove you,
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they, what they want to do is put you on the defense. It's the same thing. If you're trying to
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have a conversation about abortion, they're putting you on the defense. When in reality,
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yours is the, yours is the logical, truthful position. So they should be on the defense.
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Well, you know, why do you believe it's okay to kill a child inside the womb? Or why don't you
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believe in God? How, how do you think we all got here? Why do you think there's a right and wrong?
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Really? That's a more fantastical view. And so they should be on the defense.
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So this question, what I consider an illogical question, kind of crazy question, is, is God is
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sexist? I want to know, well, what do you mean by sexist? Why, why do you believe that God is sexist?
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What I'm guessing this person means, not this person who asked, but this person who's being
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asked this question, I assume. Um, what I'm assuming that they mean is that God prefers men
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over women. And I'll just be honest with you. I understand. I totally understand this feeling. I
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do. I'm not going to just pretend like, how could you, how would you possibly think that there's no
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reason to think that? No. I mean, there is definitely, God does ordain a patriarchy. He
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does. He ordains a patriarchy, uh, not just in the old Testament, but also in the family. Like the man
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is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church, like we said, and that is a
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patriarchy. And that is for our good. That is for the woman's good. God does, uh, or the Bible does
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say that the woman is the weaker vessel. The Bible does say that women are more easily deceived than
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men are. And so if you, um, especially for those of us who have been raised, whether we like it or
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not, guys, all of us, Christian conservative, unless we have just been like hold away from the world and
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we have never entered into, you know, popular culture at all, we have all been infected by
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feminism. We have all been affected by feminism. We have all got this idea in our head that I am a
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strong, independent woman who can do absolutely everything. I can do anything. A man can, I should
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do anything. A man can actually, I can do better things than a man can. And I want to have an egalitarian
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marriage. Some people say, I want to have the exact same role as my husband. There's no need for this
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complementarian stuff. And there are a lot of Christians who believe this. They believe that
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any kind of difference in role between a man and a woman is inherently unequal. That is why you have
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people saying that women should be able to pastor a church, despite what first Timothy says about that.
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Um, and the problem with that, the problem with that is that obviously it's not true. The difference
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in role between a man, a man and a woman, according to God's word does not mean that God doesn't value
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the woman. On the contrary, it means that he values her very much. Like if we look at Ephesians 5,
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for example, husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
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that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water, by the word, so that he might
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present the church to himself in the splendor without spot or wrinkle or any such thing that
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she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way, husbands should love their wives as their
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own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes
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and cherishes it just as Christ does the church because we are members of his body. Does that sound
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to you like a God who doesn't care about women, who doesn't care about the wife, instructing a husband
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to love, to love his wife in the same way that Christ loved the church? Christ died for the church.
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Christ bled on a cross for the church. Christ sacrificed his life for the church, gave himself
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up for her that he might sanctify her. In the same way, a husband is to lay down his life for his wife
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that she might be sanctified. He is committed to her holiness. He is committed to her spiritual,
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to her emotional, to her physical well-being. He lays down everything for her. That is what the
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Christian husband is called to. The Christian patriarch of the family is called to. To utter in total
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submission, submissive authority to his wife. And the wife is also called to submit to her husband
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as she submits to the Lord. And that is the kind of husband that we want to submit to. It's the kind
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of husband that is laying down his life constantly for the interests, for the needs of his family,
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particularly his wife, so that she may be presented as holy, spotless, without blemish before the Lord.
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And of course, whether or not we have a husband who perfectly emulates this every day,
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we are still called to submission as wives to our husbands. So if you say the verse that says wives
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are supposed to submit to their husbands, if you say that, well, that is inherently sexist because
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he never calls husbands to submit to their wives, read this chapter. It's not the same way. Yes,
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the husband is the head of the wife. It's not the exact same kind of submission that a husband does
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to his wife, but it is absolutely self-sacrificial service. That, to me, tells me that God values
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women just as much as he values men. He just has a different role for them because egalitarianism
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in marriage just doesn't work out very well. There has to be some kind of headship structure,
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some kind of authority that says, okay, at the end of the day, I am ultimately responsible
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for the protection, for the provision, for the direction, for the spiritual well-being
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of my family. That is the man's role. And we get to rejoice as wives that that's not our
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responsibility. We have lots of responsibility. We have responsibilities over the children,
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over things of the home. Not saying that a man can't do anything in the home. I'm not saying that
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a woman can't make decisions. Obviously, I think that you can probably pick that up from who I am and
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how I am, if you've been following me for any length of time. But the roles that God has placed
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for men and women are for our good and are for our protection. And we can try to argue all we want to
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against the nature that the Bible depicts of women as being easily deceived, as being the weaker
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vessels. But I think if we laid down our pride, if we laid down our ego for a second, we would say,
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that's true. Maybe not in every single instance. And I am talking as a very opinionated, a very
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outspoken, I would say a very strong-willed woman. I can look at something like that. And even though
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it rubs my pride the wrong way, I realize that it's pride and ego that's stopping me from agreeing
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with the God of Scripture who created woman. The idea that God is sexist goes against every single
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thing that we know about God and creation and how he structures things. Even if we look at Genesis,
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how woman was made, if man was refined from dust and woman was a refinement of man, then we can know
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that God sees us as glorious image bearers alongside our husbands. We are called Isaiah. We are called
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the helper to come alongside the man. If we are married, women are made in the image of God. They
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are valuable. They are integral parts of the church. We see several roles for women within the church in
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the New Testament as evangelists, as teachers of women and of children, of moms, of we see in Proverbs
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31, the kind of enterprising and clever and strong and wise and kind woman that Scripture calls us all
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to be through the power of Christ. And so I would say that Scripture has an extremely high view of
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women. Can you show me any other world religion that views women, that cherishes women as much as
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Christianity does? I can't. Certainly not Islam. You're not going to find the kind of reverence
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for women. And obviously, I mean that in an earthly way, not in a blasphemous way. You're not going to
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find the kind of preciousness of women in any other world religion except for biblical Christianity.
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You're just not going to be able to find it. I mean, think about how Jesus treated women. He
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talked to women that had probably never been talked to respectfully. They probably couldn't
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remember the last time they had been spoken to respectfully. The woman at the well who had five
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husbands. Jesus met her at the well, had a conversation with her. The woman who was caught in
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adultery, who looked at her and said, for any of you who want to condemn her, want to stone her,
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if any of you haven't sinned, you can be the one to throw the first stone. The woman who had been
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bleeding for 11 years, who touched him, he turned around and he paid attention to her. He looked at
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her. He didn't have to do that. She touched his robe and he said that he, or the Bible says that he
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felt power go out. He could have just kept going. He turned around and he looked at her. Mary, the mother
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of Jesus obviously has a very significant role. Martha obviously has a very significant role in
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the Bible. In the Old Testament, we've got Ruth, we've got Hannah, we've got Esther, we've got Rachel,
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we've got Sarah, we've got all of these amazing, amazing women of the Bible that God saw fit to
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highlight and God saw fit to use. I don't know any other religion that honors women the way that
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Christianity does as image bearers of God and as useful vessels for God's work. So God being sexist,
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it's impossible. It's impossible for God to be sexist. He created us and he created us in his
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image and he ascribes us value and he gives a lot of value. Okay, next question. Your thoughts,
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this is totally different and I'm only going to be able to get to a couple because I kind of got
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super into that one. Next question, your thoughts on Santa Claus. So I was actually talking about this
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the other day on Instagram because I don't know what exactly we're going to do. There are, you know,
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there are parents that I've talked to that do Santa Claus and it's perfectly fine. Like I believed in
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Santa Claus growing up and growing up not for very long. I actually found out when I was six that
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Santa Claus isn't real because I believed in the tooth fairy, you know, you really just start losing
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teeth when you're five or six. And I remember there was like something on my window in my bedroom and
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I thought that the tooth fairy left it. There was like a piece of tape or something. And I remember
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telling my brother who was 16 at the time, oh, that's from the tooth fairy. And he rolled his eyes
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and said, that's stupid. And it was at that point that I said, oh, this isn't real. And then I kind of
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started to connect the dots as a lot of kids do. So I was young, six years old when I figured out,
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and I was very upset. I remember being mad at my mom that they had lied to me. And I think it kind
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of like hurt a little bit because we had done all this stuff. Like, you know, I would make milk and
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cookies for Santa Claus. I would put out fruit on the porch for Rudolph that my parents would like take
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a bite out of. And so all of these things, of course, in my mind were proof that Santa Claus
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was real. And you don't really think about the logistics of him making it around the world in
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one night, because if you're a Christian, you believe in God and you believe that God has
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supernatural abilities that you can't comprehend. And so at that point, you don't know that Santa
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Claus can't too. So thinking about all of that, am I, you know, I'm not resentful at all that I
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believed in Santa Claus. It was perfectly fine. I never had a moment of saying, oh, if Santa Claus
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is not real, maybe God's not real. I never, I never had that moment. And it was all well and good.
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Now, I don't know if we will, if we will tell our daughter about Santa Claus. We might in the sense
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that, okay, here's the story of Santa Claus. And here's who, you know, St. Nicholas was. And,
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you know, this is something that is a part of Christmas. This is a theme of Christmas,
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but this is not what Christmas is about. I don't know that I want to start telling her
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about the existence of someone who's not real, because the Bible does tell us not to lie.
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And it is a little bit of a lie. It is. I mean, it is. It is a lie. Now, of course, parents tell their
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kids certain things, explain certain things to their kids in ways that they can understand that might not
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be the whole truth. But I think Santa Claus is a little bit different than that. You're just kind
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of straight up making up a story. And I'm not sure that it's right. I know this is going to say some
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people aren't going to like this, not judging you, but I'm not sure that it's right to kind of,
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I don't know, manipulate their naivete, their innocence into believing something just because
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it's fun for a few years. So I don't think that we're going to do it, but parents have done it
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the right way there. I, like I said, I believed it. And if you have your kids believing in Santa
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Claus, you know, it's fine. Your kids are going to grow up and thrive and be perfectly fine. And
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I'm sure it's a whole lot of fun, but there, I think there's probably a balance to it. Like you
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don't want to be a joy sucker and you don't want them to be the kind of kid that's going to school
00:31:52.000
and being like, yo, here I am rolling up at preschool. Santa's not real. Bye. I mean,
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you don't want your kid to be that kid. Do you? No. And so I think there are conversations
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surrounding that and you can talk about the story and all that good stuff. But yeah, I don't think
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that, I don't think that we are going to, unless something changes my mind, but I don't think
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that we're going to say, you know, Santa left you these presents. That's also just like a lot of work
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and a lot of secrecy. And I would, it would probably end up like she would see me putting
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the presents under the tree and it'd be this whole dramatic thing and ruin Christmas.
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So I don't want to do that. Um, someone asks me, do newborns go to heaven? So this is a very good
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question. And I defer to John Piper on this, who is far more learned than I am. By the way,
00:32:43.820
a lot of you ask me what podcasts I listen to. Ask Pastor John is a podcast that I listen
00:32:49.220
to pretty frequently. They're like 10 minute podcasts. Someone, uh, submits a question and
00:32:53.780
he answers it. Um, and he has answered before. I don't know if it was on the podcast or on his
00:32:59.560
website, Desiring God, do newborns go to heaven? Now, the reason why this is complicated is because
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we believe as, you know, reformed Christians, we believe in something called total depravity,
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that we are, um, inherently simple, that we don't have to learn sin, that we are, as the Bible says,
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born in iniquity. We know sin in the core of our being. We are guilty, uh, no matter in,
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we are guilty automatically, not it's, we're not guilty when we, um, you know, reach an age of
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accountability. We have sin inside of us from the very beginning. You don't have to teach a toddler
00:33:36.940
how to sin. You have to teach a toddler how to share. You don't have to teach a toddler how to
00:33:41.820
be selfish and to take away a toy or to disobey you or to lie. Like we are born with selfish ambition
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to look out for our own happiness and our own preservation. And sin is a part of that. And so
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we believe in total depravity. So the question is, if we believe in that, are newborns, are babies in the
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womb guilty then? If we are totally depraved from the inside, from, you know, the very beginning,
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are babies guilty and worthy of hell? And the answer to that, um, according to, I would say,
00:34:14.180
according to scripture, but through what I have learned through the interpretation of John Piper,
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the answer is no, babies do not go to hell. And the answer for that is because God is just,
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because God is gracious. And yes, every single soul that ends up with Jesus, uh, in heaven,
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in paradise, will have to be reconciled by Jesus Christ, uh, without faith in Christ. No one sees
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God. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the father except through him.
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And so we believe that God makes a way for these babies who die as infants, uh, children who die,
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uh, before they are able to comprehend, uh, people with special needs who are unable to
00:34:59.900
comprehend babies in the womb, that God will make a way for them through Christ in a way that we
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don't fully understand. But because we know that God is gracious and just and good and sovereign,
00:35:12.660
that is what we believe. Um, John Piper, uh, I don't remember the exact title of the article,
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but I'll try to post it if you guys are interested in kind of digging into his biblical interpretation
00:35:24.480
of that. But the answer is yes, we believe that newborns, this was, uh, you specifically said in
00:35:31.000
this question, two months go to heaven. The answer is yes, absolutely. Um, okay. Last question. Um,
00:35:40.280
two good, two good questions, a few good questions, a few good questions. Okay. I'll,
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they're quick questions. So I will do a couple of them. Uh, what Bible would you recommend reading?
00:35:55.900
This is my ESV study Bible. As you can see, it's kind of worn out because a, a friend got it for me
00:36:02.640
in 2011 and I absolutely love it. Some people swear by the new King James version. That's fine too.
00:36:09.580
I think that's another good interpretation through American standard version. That's fine too. NIV is
00:36:15.400
just a little bit loosey goosey with the interpretation. And so, or translation. And so
00:36:20.860
I probably wouldn't go with that. I also use this, uh, Hebrew, Greek keyword study Bible that I find
00:36:29.020
helpful. I am still learning how to navigate it. And then I just happened to have my resources right
00:36:34.700
in front of me. I also have, this is, oh, I'm showing this to the camera, by the way,
00:36:40.460
if you are not watching this, you can see it on YouTube. I also have this, uh, systematic theology
00:36:46.100
book by Wayne Grudem. There are a lot of other really great resources. These are not the only three
00:36:51.000
resources that you can use, but these answer a lot of my questions because I have a ton of questions as
00:36:56.840
I'm reading the Bible. If I don't have my study Bible with me, which sometimes I don't, and I read
00:37:02.820
it on my phone. Um, but if I don't have my study Bible with me, I have a million bajillion questions.
00:37:08.480
I ask a ton of questions every time I'm reading because there are phrases, words, sentences that I
00:37:14.180
just don't understand. I don't know how to apply it. I don't know what the context is. I don't know
00:37:17.340
what the original translation was. And all of that is important to me because I really,
00:37:20.840
I really want to know what's true and what's real and what this actually means, not just what I feel
00:37:27.740
like. Um, another question that has nothing to do with that. How do you meal plan? I don't meal plan.
00:37:32.700
I don't meal plan. I wish that I did. Now I'm probably going to get some of you reaching out
00:37:36.660
to me, telling me how I can meal plan, which is totally fine. You can't give me your advice.
00:37:41.360
That's something that I need to do better. So I have been totally inundated with my book
00:37:45.940
that's coming out at the beginning of May. And, um, I am so excited about it, but I am also really
00:37:53.960
excited. And I think I can say this. I'm really excited about it being done. Not because I haven't
00:37:59.540
enjoyed writing it because I have, but it has consumed a lot of my time. And I am in this thing.
00:38:07.640
I'm a perfectionist. I'm not a perfectionist in all things, but I am a perfectionist in this.
00:38:12.660
I've never done something this permanent. When I do a podcast the next week, I can say,
00:38:17.860
Oh, you know, I said this, that was a misspoke or I said the wrong thing, or I thought about this.
00:38:24.100
Here's the correction. No big deal. But a book is so permanent. If I say the wrong thing,
00:38:30.420
then it's just out there and people read it and they maybe don't see my correction or my caveat or
00:38:36.800
whatever it is. And so that kind of freaks me out. And I have like, I've rewritten the same thing
00:38:43.740
over and over again. I've added a million things. I've taken away things and all that. So because of
00:38:49.800
that, I feel like I've just kind of like a little bit been drowning just a tad. But, um, so meal planning
00:38:58.900
has been non-existent. I don't, I can't even tell you what I've eaten for lunch. Cheese? I don't know.
00:39:04.460
So not healthy. It hasn't been, it hasn't been good. And if I were a more naturally organized
00:39:10.480
person, it probably would have been easier, but I'm not something I struggle with. Something I
00:39:17.520
struggle with is being organized. It's always been true since I was little. I could never keep
00:39:21.740
track of my pens, get school supplies at the beginning of the year, two weeks in, lost all my
00:39:25.800
pens and pencils. Still how I am. Just not naturally organized. So maybe one day I'll meal plan. Maybe
00:39:30.980
that'll be one of my goals for 2020. I also want to do a podcast on not just goals for 2020, but, um,
00:39:39.700
how like looking back at 2019, cause I was thinking about all of the beliefs, thoughts that I've had
00:39:46.160
that in ways that you probably wouldn't realize, but I realized have changed in the way that God has
00:39:52.900
sanctified me and rid me of things that I believe that I didn't realize that I believed and how he's
00:39:58.280
convicted me in certain ways. And I want to encourage you to kind of do the same thing. And so I want to
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talk about like a year in review and also give you tools to think about your, your view too, because
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I think it's really important as we thank God for all the things that he's done and given us the things
00:40:12.920
that we prayed for that we didn't even realize he answered. Um, I think it's important for us to kind
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of take a step back and to remember the goodness and the grace that he has shown to us. And also to
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look forward to the things that he has in store, whatever they may be. Okay. That is all today.
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I will be back here on Wednesday with some updates on the news and I will see you then.