Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - December 11, 2019


Ep 196 ｜ Should Porn Be Banned？

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Allie Beth Stuckey
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Donald Trump Joe Biden James Comey Peloton Elizabeth Warren Cabot Phillips Eric Holder Matt Walsh Bill Barr Obama Hillary Clinton Martha McCallum Bernie Sanders Vicki Hartzler Tucker Carlson Stacey Abrams Andrew Gillum Andrew Klavan Dennis Prager Jerry Nadler and 12 more
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In this episode of Relatable, I talk about the latest impeachment hearings, the Peloton commercial, and why Joe Biden is not running for president in 2020. I also talk about a new law in Kentucky that makes informed consent a part of abortion appointments and why the Democrats are so upset about it.

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00:00:00.320 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Today is Newsday. So we really have no other
00:00:07.300 option than to talk about, at least a little bit, about some of the impeachment stuff that
00:00:12.740 has been going on this week. I mean, it's absolutely insane. I'm not going to stay forever
00:00:17.520 on that topic because there are also a lot of other things that I would like to touch
00:00:22.680 on today. I'm going to talk about the Peloton commercial. You guys have been asking my thoughts
00:00:26.800 on that. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you will. I will get into it. I am
00:00:31.860 also going to touch on a few other news items that I think are important, like the law in
00:00:37.640 Kentucky that is making informed consent a part of the appointments that doctors have
00:00:45.220 with women who are seeking an abortion, so showing them an ultrasound image and why the
00:00:50.140 Democrats are having a conniption over that. We're going to talk about a couple other things
00:00:53.580 too. But let's get into some of this impeachment stuff. So guys, guys, guys, if you have been
00:00:59.400 trying to avoid this stuff, I do not blame you. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago. I
00:01:05.080 tried to give you a rundown of what's happening, all this stuff with Ukraine and quid pro quo,
00:01:09.960 and somehow it still connects to the Russia investigation, which was discredited, yet went
00:01:14.860 on and on and on. We are back here. If you haven't noticed, since Donald Trump became president,
00:01:20.020 they have been trying to delegitimize his presidency, saying that he is not valid, he is not a real
00:01:26.300 president, that he somehow stole this election away from the rightful winner of Hillary Clinton. 0.99
00:01:33.140 Of course, we know that all of their attempts have failed. But yesterday, they finally said,
00:01:38.420 OK, we are going to file two articles of impeachment. The first article of impeachment was abuse of power.
00:01:45.840 For the second, they say, obstruction of Congress. So here's what the Constitution says about impeachment
00:01:52.700 in its impeachment clause. The president, vice president and all civil officers of the United
00:01:58.320 States shall be removed from office on impeachment for and conviction of treason, bribery or other high
00:02:05.580 crimes and misdemeanors. So the Democrats in the House are claiming that Trump's actions fall under
00:02:10.960 high crimes and misdemeanors, even though they were claiming they have been claiming during all of
00:02:16.440 these impeachment hearings, which maybe you haven't caught any of them. I've tried to watch them.
00:02:20.420 They have been extremely boring, extremely boring, like and I want to keep up with it because I want
00:02:25.880 to be able to relay this information and analyze it for you guys. But guys, I would rather pick out
00:02:32.320 every single one of my eyelashes before I sit there and watch another second of these impeachment
00:02:38.480 hearings. They are so boring. And I'm sure I'm sure you guys feel the same way. But if you've been
00:02:43.620 paying attention just a little bit, you will have known that the Democrats have been saying
00:02:47.940 the quid pro quo that they called it the conversation that he had with Ukraine saying,
00:02:53.160 hey, you should investigate into Joe Biden. There's some sketchy stuff that went on with his son
00:02:58.440 and Burisma and all of this stuff. They're saying that was quid pro quo. That was bribery. While the
00:03:03.880 transcript came out, there clearly wasn't a quid pro quo. And the president of Ukraine said,
00:03:09.780 no, there wasn't any kind of pressure to investigate Joe Biden. They still said, OK,
00:03:14.860 this is bribery. Well, now they've changed the accusation of President Trump from bribery
00:03:19.940 to high crimes and misdemeanors, abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. Democratic Representative
00:03:27.600 Jerry Nadler alleged that Trump pressured Ukraine to meddle in our 2020 election, which, as I've already
00:03:33.200 said, is not true. Trump telling Ukraine, hey, you should look into Biden is an invitation to meddle
00:03:41.140 into our election because Biden is not the nominee. He's not the nominee. He might be the front runner,
00:03:46.920 but he's not the nominee. Right now, Trump is not running against Biden. We don't know if Biden is
00:03:52.440 going to be the nominee. There is no evidence that an investigation right now into Biden would interfere
00:03:58.440 into our election at all. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren could very well be the nominee.
00:04:04.220 This is this kind of accusation then is a sham because we don't actually know if Biden is going
00:04:11.500 to be running against Trump. If you want more information on this, you can go back a couple
00:04:15.240 of weeks where I did a whole episode or at least a good bit of an episode on this. I remember Biden,
00:04:20.380 while he was vice president, actually did threaten to withhold aid from Ukraine.
00:04:24.580 If they didn't investigate the prosecutor who was investigating the company that his son was on
00:04:29.660 the board of. Yes, that actually happened and is, yes, sketchy. But when you bring these things up,
00:04:36.580 Democrats say that, oh, this is just a conspiracy theory. This is a red herring. And you actually
00:04:42.540 notice that this is something that Democrats do on a lot. If you bring up a fact that is contrary to
00:04:48.980 a narrative that they have presented, that they will just say, oh, that's misinformation. Oh,
00:04:54.220 you're spreading lies. Oh, that's that's not true. That's deceptive. That's dangerous, whatever.
00:04:58.640 But they won't actually correct the record. So they'll say that something that you're saying
00:05:02.060 is a conspiracy, but they won't tell you what's actually true. And that certainly has been
00:05:06.000 the case on this. You can read all of the articles in the world on this impeachment stuff.
00:05:12.040 What you will find underneath it is that Democrats have been trying to impeach Trump,
00:05:19.860 his entire presidency. They have not for a second, like we already noted, been able to accept the
00:05:26.100 legitimacy of the 2016 election. They're already trying to undermine the 2020 election. So they're
00:05:32.180 already gearing up the narrative for that by saying that he is already trying to interfere
00:05:36.420 into the 2020 election. They do this a lot. They still say that Stacey Abrams is the rightful 0.99
00:05:42.860 governor of Georgia, even though she lost to Brian Kemp by 50,000 votes. They didn't want to accept
00:05:47.820 that Ron DeSantis beat Andrew Gillum in Florida. They wouldn't accept George Bush,
00:05:52.620 that he beat Al Gore all the way back in 2000. Within that controversy, Democrats claim that
00:05:58.160 whenever they lose, it is because it is unfair. It is because it is unjust. It is like when a toddler
00:06:04.360 is learning how to compete and they try to we try to teach them how to accept defeat graciously,
00:06:12.140 and they're unable to do that. They claim that the person who beat them in a video game or whatever
00:06:16.720 cheated. It's the same way many times with Democrats. I'm not saying Republicans are never
00:06:21.380 guilty of this, but as we've seen, especially recently in the past few years, this is Democrats
00:06:26.560 mode of operation. Whenever they lose, it is because the system is rigged or it is unfair because there
00:06:33.560 is foul play. That is why Elizabeth Warren and other Democrats like AOC and so on have said that they want 1.00
00:06:39.780 to abolish the Electoral College and other liberals have even suggested abolishing the Senate because
00:06:45.180 Democrats cannot appeal to the middle of the country. They cannot accept that the middle of
00:06:50.400 the country, that people not just in the middle of the country, but everywhere actually support
00:06:56.100 Donald Trump, voted for Donald Trump, like his policies. They don't want to conform to the will
00:07:01.180 of the people. They instead want the will of the people to conform to them. They would like New York
00:07:06.120 and L.A. to and D.C. to control flyover country. And again, we're not just talking about impeachment.
00:07:11.300 We're talking about the election in general. We're talking about our structures in this
00:07:16.340 republic. You want to know why that's a bad idea to abolish the Electoral College, to subvert the
00:07:21.660 will of the people, to abolish the Senate. I'll give you one tweet by this leftist commentator.
00:07:27.900 This was actually the beginning of November, and it was hilarious. It was on Twitter. He tweeted,
00:07:33.320 this is this is land by the Colorado, Kansas border from a plane. Pretty cool. I have no idea how
00:07:39.420 why it looks like this. I don't know if I talked about this actually a couple months ago on the
00:07:43.240 podcast, but with that tweet, he posted a picture from the plane where you can see that the land
00:07:47.540 looks like a it looks like a collage of of different squares all put together, different
00:07:53.880 colored squares. And obviously, obviously, these are farms. Obviously, these are farms. Now,
00:08:00.160 this is just deductive reasoning. You would think, OK, where am I? OK, I know that this is farmland.
00:08:05.440 I can tell that this maybe looks like a crop. Most people in major cities, though, have no idea.
00:08:11.080 This guy got horrifically ratio just by his wonder and amazement that there are farms and crops that
00:08:18.520 look different than New York does. This guy got totally dragged through the mud. I think he had
00:08:23.980 a pretty good attitude about it, actually. So to his credit. But most people in major cities have
00:08:29.780 exactly no idea what goes on in the rest of the country. They are continually astonished that
00:08:35.280 people live in a different way. They do have different priorities than they do, think differently,
00:08:40.200 believe different things than they do. And instead of just accepting, OK, those people come from
00:08:43.900 different backgrounds. They have different experiences that shape their beliefs. They
00:08:48.160 automatically think anyone who believes more conservatively than they do or who has more
00:08:53.460 traditional values that they are bigoted, that they are backwards, that they are antiquated,
00:08:57.180 that they are just rooted and stuck in their hate. And if they were just more
00:09:00.280 metropolitan, if they were just around more smut as they are in New York City, then maybe,
00:09:07.500 possibly they would have more progressive and better and more loving and more tolerant views.
00:09:13.380 That's what most people in these coastal cities in New York and D.C. and San Francisco and L.A.,
00:09:18.860 that's what they think about the rest of the country, that they are just these backwards
00:09:21.860 hillbillies. That's why it's a bad idea to abolish the electoral college, not because I want the
00:09:29.400 middle of the country to have preferential treatment, but because I want them to have
00:09:32.780 fair treatment. I want them to have fair representation. I want them to have representative
00:09:37.100 leadership. That's why we live in a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. You constantly
00:09:42.600 hear Democrats nowadays talking about democracy, democracy, democracy, trying to make it seem like
00:09:47.280 they are on the side of freedom. What they're talking about is the tyranny of the majority, where
00:09:51.700 the tiny, tiny sliver of majority controls the rest of the country. So New York and L.A. 0.94
00:09:57.920 and D.C. and San Francisco, I know I went coast to coast to coast to coast. They're controlling
00:10:03.480 the rest of the country, no matter where you live. The system that we have now, the representative
00:10:08.660 democracy that we have now makes sure that the less populous states, typically in the
00:10:12.600 middle of the country, typically rural states, have a say. But Democrats don't want that.
00:10:18.120 They say they want a direct democracy. Our country is not a direct democracy. And there
00:10:22.120 is a reason for that. That's part of the genius of the foundings of the founding. But the far
00:10:28.280 left Democrats, they don't want to be bothered with those kinds of people. They don't want
00:10:31.620 to be bothered with people like you and me. They don't want to try to convince us. They
00:10:35.620 certainly don't want to try to debate us. They don't want to try to hold any kind of hearing
00:10:38.820 for our views or have any kind of productive conversation or dialogue. We've certainly seen
00:10:43.420 that in the past few years. And this whole impeachment sham shows the utter disdain
00:10:49.360 that many Democrats, not all, but many Democrats have for people who voted for Donald Trump and
00:10:55.560 particularly for people in the middle of the country, people who don't have the same views
00:10:58.920 that they do. They hate the president so much that they are willing to subvert the will of the people
00:11:04.060 who voted for him. And look, if there were something here, if there were something here,
00:11:09.200 I would be for impeachment. And I am willing to hear the other side of this. I am willing,
00:11:13.660 if you've got a good case to make for impeachment, email me, message me. Like,
00:11:17.600 I am totally willing to hear it. I would like to be on the side of truth, not just on the side of
00:11:22.100 part of partisanship, but I just haven't heard it. It seems all flimsy. And after watching how hard
00:11:28.280 they have tried for the past few years to take this president down based on basically nothing,
00:11:34.280 it's just hard for me to believe. It's like the boy who cried wolf. This is obviously out of fear
00:11:41.400 that Donald Trump is going to win in 2020. Uh, they know that he is not actually going to be
00:11:47.540 removed though. There will be a Senate trial. Senate is controlled by Republicans. And so again,
00:11:53.100 you can be impeached without actually being removed. They will be able to say that Trump
00:11:58.260 was impeached though. I think that's probably their strategy. I talked about this in my conversation
00:12:03.160 with Andrew Clavin on Friday, that this is probably a PR strategy that if they can just label him as an
00:12:10.280 impeached president, they will get enough people to say, Oh, I, I don't want to vote for the guy who
00:12:14.580 was impeached. And I know there are a lot of people, particularly a lot of probably suburban moms, 1.00
00:12:19.500 a lot of young people who aren't paying attention to this. And the only reason I say that is because
00:12:24.320 you have a lot of other things going on. If you are a mom of three young kids, if you are a young
00:12:31.880 person who is in school, I would say people who are, there are a lot of people who go to work and have
00:12:38.180 the news on in the background, or they're reading some kind of, uh, aggregative news in the morning.
00:12:44.740 But I would say for a lot of moms who feel like they don't have time to pay attention to the stuff
00:12:49.160 or who don't care about this stuff. A lot of kids in college, uh, they're not paying attention to the
00:12:54.080 impeachment hearings. They might not even know they're going on. And yet in a few months when
00:12:57.520 they're thinking about, okay, who am I going to vote for in this election? They just know, okay,
00:13:01.660 this guy was impeached. And at that point, the facts get so muddled, the longer it is.
00:13:07.380 I think that Democrats believe that having the label of impeachment on him will be enough to
00:13:13.400 deter the people who aren't paying attention to what's going on right now to not vote for him.
00:13:17.720 The people in the middle, they're just going to say, you know, I don't, I don't want to vote for
00:13:21.240 an impeached president. He must be corrupt, right? I think that is their goal to just draw a conclusion
00:13:26.960 and hope people will draw their own conclusions based on this conclusion, which is not based on
00:13:33.360 any actual logical argument or a fact. Democrats are always depending on deception in order to make
00:13:40.360 their point. I won't say Democrats. I would say the left is always depending on deception and
00:13:45.620 manipulation to make their point. As Dennis Prager says, truth is not a left-wing value. Narrative is a
00:13:52.120 left-wing value. And they are very good and very effective at pushing a narrative. Facts be darned.
00:13:58.840 And this is the Democratic strategy. Okay. That's all I have to say on that. You've got the 0.97
00:14:02.740 IG report. You've got James Comey claiming that he was supposed to go on Fox and Friends and Fox and
00:14:08.160 Friends canceled him. Fox and Friends said, no, that actually wasn't true. He was never booked or
00:14:13.160 confirmed for Fox and Friends, which I believe I was really surprised anyway that James Comey would be
00:14:19.340 going on Fox and Friends in the first place. And then a lot of other Fox hosts like Brett Baird and
00:14:23.780 Martha McCallum said, hey, you can come on our show and talk about the IG report. Like, we're more than
00:14:29.420 happy to have you. James Comey tried to pretend like Fox News was so scared to talk to him about the IG
00:14:34.280 report. The IG report doesn't look good for the FBI. I can tell you that much. The IG report examined
00:14:41.160 how the Russian investigation originally started and whether it was legitimate or biased or whether there
00:14:48.680 were mistakes made. And basically, the conclusion was that they couldn't prove any kind of bias against
00:14:53.300 President Trump, but that there was a lot of sloppiness in the startup of the investigation, especially
00:15:00.500 under James Comey. So if you want more details on that, there are lots of resources. You can go to the
00:15:07.560 blaze.com. They have plenty of resources on the IG report and everything that kind of went wrong there. I want to
00:15:14.540 move along, though, because I promised you guys that we wouldn't spend the entire episode on that. And
00:15:18.160 quite frankly, there are so many details, so many details to get into that it would just take too
00:15:24.160 long. And I don't want to bore you guys. Like I said, this impeachment stuff is really boring. I think
00:15:28.500 we're just going to move past it. And it's more going to have the my prediction. It's more going to
00:15:32.540 have the Kavanaugh effect that people are galvanized by this in the in the way that Democrats don't want
00:15:38.760 that people are incensed. People are like, really, you are going to spend our taxpayer dollars
00:15:44.360 on this dragging this man through the mud, impeaching him for something that isn't really
00:15:48.580 impeachable. I think that's the effect that it's going to have. I think it's going to backfire
00:15:53.020 on the Democrats. OK, I want to tell you a bit of good news. I know we talk about abortion so much, 0.78
00:15:59.140 but it's so important. And it's not every day that we get good news about it. So Kentucky passed or
00:16:05.240 OK, let me let me read you from liveaction.com because it'll have the most accurate language.
00:16:10.220 The Kentucky law requires the Kentucky law that we're talking about requires that women have an 1.00
00:16:15.620 ultrasound before undergoing an abortion. The doctor must describe the ultrasound and offer
00:16:20.480 the women the chance to hear the audio of the heartbeat. She is not required to see the images
00:16:24.780 or listen. But as live action investigation found, women are not typically given the truth by abortion 1.00
00:16:30.120 staffers about fetal development. Of course not. Of course they're not. They call it pregnancy tissue
00:16:34.400 and things like that, because if women were given accurate information, there would be a greater 1.00
00:16:38.360 chance that they might change their mind and leave. And that tells you everything you need
00:16:41.780 to know about the abortion industry. Again, they operate on deceit. The Supreme Court has refused
00:16:46.840 to hear a challenge to Kentucky's informed consent requirements, therefore upholding the law and
00:16:52.360 signifying another win for the pro-life movement. Previously, a federal appeals court upheld the law
00:16:57.640 only to have the decision appealed by the ACLU. The ultrasound informed consent act was passed in 2017.
00:17:03.900 It was originally overturned by a lower court after the ACLU challenged it. However, after a challenge
00:17:09.460 from the state, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the ruling rejecting the idea that the law
00:17:14.560 challenged doctors' free speech rights. Of course not. It is just a part of the process now that you
00:17:21.320 have an ultrasound. The doctor has to use the ultrasound anyway, because before an abortion, the 0.99
00:17:27.040 doctor needs to see how far along you are to know what kind of abortion the doctor is going to have to 1.00
00:17:31.720 perform to kill the baby. So now the only difference is they are offering this woman the opportunity to 0.98
00:17:40.540 hear the heartbeat, which exists, it is a tangible thing that is really there, and to see the baby.
00:17:48.280 So it's just more information. That's all this law requires, is that this woman is given as much 1.00
00:17:56.040 information as humanly possible before she makes a big decision that will affect her, whether she
00:18:03.540 believes it or not, whether the pro-choice side wants you to believe it or not, for the rest of
00:18:08.440 her life. And it tells you something about the pro-abortion side that they are against informed
00:18:13.000 consent, that they are against the woman knowing what is actually going on inside her body. If you're
00:18:21.320 really about pro-choice, like if you were really about a woman making the best decision for her,
00:18:27.240 you would want her to have all of the options possible. You would want her to have all of the
00:18:32.040 information possible, right? But unfortunately, they're against that because, again, they are pro-abortion.
00:18:38.620 That's why we say pro-abortion and not pro-choice. So let's move on from that. There is a great porn
00:18:45.260 debate going on. Not a great porn debate, as in like, it's great. It is substantial. It is not
00:18:55.800 necessarily a fun debate because it's kind of a sad debate, the different sides that we see going on.
00:19:02.180 But there is a major porn debate that is going on online, and it started from four Republican
00:19:07.440 representatives. This is according to National Review. Four Republican representatives have sent
00:19:12.300 a letter to Attorney General Bill Barr this morning calling on the Department of Justice to enforce
00:19:17.380 obscenity laws as a means of reducing hardcore pornography that meets the legal task for
00:19:22.620 obscenity, especially pornography involving children. No-brainer. Duh. Of course, this is for the best
00:19:29.700 interest of the country. The letter, signed by Jim Banks of Indiana, Mark Meadows of North Carolina,
00:19:35.520 Vicki Hartzler of Missouri, and Brian Babin of Texas, was provided exclusively to National Review and
00:19:41.440 Reminds the Justice Department of Donald Trump's promise as a presidential candidate to enforce
00:19:46.080 obscenity laws against the porn industry. The internet, this is, the representatives write this
00:19:51.680 in their letter to Bill Barr. The internet and other evolving technologies are fueling the explosion of
00:19:57.240 obscene pornography by making it more accessible and visceral. This explosion in pornography coincides
00:20:03.260 with an increase in violence towards women and an increase in the volume of human trafficking as well
00:20:07.900 as child pornography. This is absolutely right. Representative Banks said this in a comment to
00:20:13.120 the National Review. As online obscenity and pornography consumption have increased, so too is
00:20:17.980 violence towards women. Overall volume of human trafficking has increased and is now the third
00:20:22.600 largest criminal enterprise in the world. Child pornography is on the rise as one of the fastest
00:20:27.620 growing online businesses with an annual revenue of over three billion dollars. The United States has nearly
00:20:33.520 50% of all commercialized child pornography websites. Let me save that again. The United States has nearly
00:20:41.500 50% of all commercialized child pornography websites. Pornography is ubiquitous in our culture and our
00:20:50.220 children are being exposed at younger ages. Nine in every 10 boys under the age of 18 have seen porn.
00:20:56.380 Children, and I think the number, he doesn't include this, but I think the number is six in every 10
00:21:02.060 girls. Under the age of 18 have seen porn. Children are struggling with pornography addiction. Under
00:21:08.540 President Obama's administration, the National Review goes on to say, under President Obama's
00:21:14.100 administration, Attorney General Eric Holder disbanded the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force in the
00:21:19.480 Criminal Division of the Justice Department, which had prioritized prosecuting obscenity cases.
00:21:25.920 Eric Holder disbanded the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force in the Criminal Division of the Justice
00:21:32.900 Department. So that tells you something that you need to know. Fightthenewdrug.org. It's a nonpartisan,
00:21:38.820 non-religious organization. You will see the research on how pornography is intertwined with sex 0.51
00:21:44.480 trafficking, with child exploitation, with abuse, with rape, with coercion. It also coincides with
00:21:51.620 violent mentalities in young boys, especially towards women. I mean, for the side that constantly
00:21:56.940 talks about the problem with rape and misogyny, which, by the way, we should all be talking about
00:22:02.460 that no matter which side you're on, but especially the left with the Me Too and the Time's Up movement,
00:22:07.180 parts of it I agree with, parts of it I don't necessarily agree with, by the way. But for the
00:22:11.900 side that is acting so concerned about that, they are amazingly pro-pornography. You are going to be
00:22:19.660 hard-pressed to find someone on the left who is against pornography or who is even for a regulating
00:22:27.020 pornography. I mean, they love regulations on everything except for on abortion and pornography,
00:22:32.360 so that tells you where their priorities are. It is, like I said, mostly leftists that are fighting for
00:22:37.820 the normalization, for even the glorification of pornography, because just like their views on
00:22:43.140 abortion, on sexuality, on gender, all of those things indicate most people on the left do not
00:22:49.440 view human beings as made in the image of God and having inherent value in and of themselves. So
00:22:53.820 the only thing that they think matters is autonomy, is making a choice. So if someone is making a choice,
00:23:00.800 then morale, any other kind of morality doesn't actually count. What they don't account for is the
00:23:06.560 fact that a lot of people who are involved in pornography, unfortunately, do not have, do not have a
00:23:11.900 choice. But either way, whether it's someone's choice or not, it is still immoral. It is the
00:23:16.220 objectification of image bearers, and it is decontextualizing sex from its intended purpose
00:23:22.100 within marriage to something that it should not be strictly for gratification in a way that is
00:23:28.660 not healthy gratification, but actually leads to psychological problems in the people that watch it
00:23:33.920 and the people that are performing in it. But there are also conservatives. There are also conservatives
00:23:39.520 who have a problem with any kind of regulation of porn as well. If you go to Matt Walsh's page,
00:23:44.680 she was in a conversation with a few different people about this. And I mean, the angry, angry,
00:23:50.840 angry Twitter warriors who claim to be conservatives, who I guess are conservatives in their views,
00:23:56.800 getting so worked up and mad at Matt Walsh for saying that there should be censorship,
00:24:03.140 there should be regulation of pornography. They say free speech, they say small government.
00:24:08.360 But here's the thing. Conservatives don't just believe in small government. Yes,
00:24:13.340 we do believe in limited government. That is a value that we have. But we don't believe in no
00:24:17.740 government involvement at all. We believe that we are only as good. Most conservatives believe this.
00:24:23.820 We are only as good as the structures that we uphold. So we believe in things like preserving the
00:24:28.600 family and protecting children from obscenity and exploitation. Yes, it is ultimately the responsibility
00:24:35.680 of parents to protect their children. Absolutely. I am in no way saying that that is the state's
00:24:42.040 primary obligation or responsibility. Yes, it is absolutely up to parents. But when we're talking
00:24:49.360 about not just children being able to access pornography so easily, whether it's on their
00:24:53.740 phone or their tablet or YouTube, I mean, this happens when kids are watching something on YouTube,
00:24:58.840 something automatically pops up without the parent knowing it. And bam, they're five years old,
00:25:03.560 and they've already been they've already been subjected to pornography. Unfortunately,
00:25:07.160 that happens. And yes, parents can use all the parental controls in the world. And something
00:25:11.280 like that could still happen. So that's one side of it. But the other side of it is that the children
00:25:15.220 that are involved. And yes, people say, oh, well, that's already illegal. Child pornography is already
00:25:22.280 illegal. But the commercialization of pornography aids child pornography. Of course it does. Now, there are
00:25:30.960 people who say that while regulating it or banning porn is just going to lead to some kind of black
00:25:40.120 market for it. It's going to make it so much more dangerous for the people who are involved.
00:25:44.820 You're guaranteeing that there are going to be more children exploited. You're guaranteeing that there's
00:25:50.440 going to be more sex trafficking involved with the black market porn industry. But okay, that is the
00:25:56.780 argument for everything. Conservatives who are making this argument, that's the argument for
00:26:01.020 everything. You can make that argument about abortion. You can make that argument about
00:26:05.160 assisted suicide. You can make that argument about everything. So basically, if you go down that trail
00:26:12.460 of reasoning, are you saying that there really should be no laws because regulating something or banning
00:26:17.860 something just makes it more dangerous for everyone involved? Yes, that's true about some things.
00:26:23.480 Of course, we believe that's true about guns, that banning guns actually isn't going to help.
00:26:28.120 People are still going to find a way to kill people. People are still going to find a way
00:26:31.420 to buy guns. But we have a constitutional right to own guns. We don't have the constitutional right
00:26:36.620 to watch porn or to have porn be so ubiquitous in our society. It doesn't make sense for obscene
00:26:45.460 pornography, which all pornography really is obscene, but they're talking about hardcore pornography,
00:26:50.200 whatever that means. It doesn't make any sense for that to fall under the First Amendment's
00:26:54.820 protection of free speech. And in fact, it was never intended to. Conservatives, yes,
00:27:02.100 believe in limited government. We don't believe in anarchy. We do believe that there is a reason for
00:27:07.640 the government, that there is a reason for laws, that there is a reason sometimes for regulation.
00:27:13.500 And yes, does it start with the heart? Absolutely. Does it start with the individual? Does it start
00:27:17.500 with families and communities and societies? Yes, we simply believe the government should do the job
00:27:22.540 that they, the best job that they possibly can to uphold the structures that make it possible
00:27:26.280 for us to protect our children as much as possible, because we do believe that that is our
00:27:31.680 responsibility. Now, of course, the other argument is, or it's really in all of this is, okay, but this
00:27:40.740 is, there's always going to be a supply of pornography as long as there is a demand for pornography.
00:27:45.200 That's the same argument that the pro-abortion side says that you're just, you know, forcing
00:27:50.140 women to have abortions at home or in back alleys or whatever. Yes, that is true, which is why we as 0.97
00:27:56.220 Christians have a responsibility, have a responsibility to see all of these things as primarily a heart
00:28:02.860 issue, as primarily a spiritual issue. That's why it is so important for us to share the gospel,
00:28:10.040 first and foremost in our homes with our children, with the people that we know, to be the body of
00:28:16.900 Christ, to share Christ to those around us, because he is the only one who can regenerate. He is the
00:28:22.100 only one that can renew. He's the only one that can make new, that can redeem. He is the only one that
00:28:27.540 changes the heart of stone to a heart of flesh. He is the only one that can fully and finally change
00:28:32.920 someone's desires from desiring something like the objectification of pornography to desiring
00:28:38.360 something that is pure, a life that is pure to see, to see things that are pure and right and good
00:28:45.560 and true. He is the only one that can change those things. So we know, we understand it's a spiritual
00:28:51.800 responsibility. That doesn't mean that legislation has no role in this at all. It is always balanced
00:28:57.320 between balancing personal freedom with the public good. And we tend to go on the side as conservatives
00:29:06.200 of personal freedom, absolutely, but we are always, we're always going to be weighing those things. And
00:29:12.280 if you have an argument for me that you can tell me that absolute accessibility to hardcore porn is
00:29:19.080 better for children, is better for teens, and is better for family, I'm willing to hear it because I
00:29:25.120 want to do the thing. If it's deregulation that truly helps children and adolescents and people's
00:29:31.920 minds who are being fried by pornography, if deregulation is truly the answer, is truly better
00:29:37.880 for those people, then I want to hear your argument. And I'm willing to hear it. I truly am. So please
00:29:43.920 let me know if you believe that absolute accessibility is better for children and better for society than
00:29:50.060 banning or regulating porn. I'm interested in hearing that. Okay. That's the debate that we're
00:29:57.020 having on porn. And a lot of you have asked me to do a whole episode on porn. Sure. There's a lot of,
00:30:02.060 I think that'd probably be better for an interview. There are people who have been studying pornography
00:30:05.960 and the detrimental effects of pornography on our society for decades, who would probably be a better
00:30:12.700 resource for me. Uh, so I will try to, maybe I can get someone from fight the, fight the new drug
00:30:18.740 to talk about, to talk about all of that because it absolutely affects all of, uh, all of, all of
00:30:25.760 society. There's really no society, part of society that is not touched, unfortunately, by the damages
00:30:30.960 of pornography. Okay. I want to show you, okay, I'm going to show you a couple of videos and then I'm
00:30:36.300 going to talk about the Peloton commercial. And then I have one update of one of my friends,
00:30:39.840 Pastor Tom Ascol, who needs our prayers. Okay. I want to show you this quick video, uh, from Cabot
00:30:47.420 Phillips from campus reform. And he is asking students what they think about Medicare for all.
00:30:54.240 So the main issue that Democrats have taken up and running against president Trump on his healthcare,
00:30:58.020 the policy right now they're proposing is Medicare for all, which is, you know, the idea of
00:31:01.800 government funded healthcare for everyone. Um, is that a concept you view favorably or unfavorably
00:31:06.340 favorably for sure. I do support Medicare for all. I do.
00:31:09.840 I do think that every American deserves healthcare. I do support that. I think it's a
00:31:15.120 important form of universal healthcare. I do support free healthcare for everybody.
00:31:20.160 So the second part, uh, it would eliminate private health insurance, the entire industry.
00:31:24.160 It would be just under a million jobs would be eliminated because all insurance moved to the 0.99
00:31:28.480 government. Unfavorably, unfavorably. Unfavorably. And what's your take on that?
00:31:33.120 Um, it does concern me. I think having jobs and being able to make a living and, you know,
00:31:40.720 survive on your own and take care of your family is more important than everybody having healthcare.
00:31:45.120 I think that like the way someone wants to ensure their life and their health is their choice.
00:31:49.680 In the Bernie Sanders proposal, it would be about $32 trillion over the next decade. Um, that would be,
00:31:55.040 uh, every American paying about one fifth of their income towards funding it.
00:31:59.440 Is that a concern? Yes. You have to pay for it. Yes. So taxes will go up. 1.00
00:32:05.920 You still have to pay for it. I don't support that. I mean, I'm not paying for taxes currently,
00:32:10.720 so that kind of, I can say favorable, I guess, but if I were financially on my own,
00:32:15.920 I'd probably say unfavorable. Is that too much money do you think? And would,
00:32:19.520 would that change your support of it? No comment. I'm going to take that as a,
00:32:24.720 you don't like that. No comment. That's incredible. That's incredible. I,
00:32:29.520 I love these kinds of videos and Cabot really is, he's the best. He's the best at these kinds of
00:32:34.400 videos. I think that people like to, I think that he is unintimidating. And so people are comfortable
00:32:41.200 around Cabot answering questions and he just does a really good job of kind of leveling with people,
00:32:45.360 not making them feel stupid, not condescending them, but giving the answer that he wants to get.
00:32:49.280 And it's so true of so many young people that they like the sound of policies that seem compassionate, 0.90
00:32:56.080 but when they realize that every leftist policy involves coercion and involves the limitation of
00:33:02.400 freedom, which is also a value that young people have, they start to backtrack a little bit,
00:33:06.560 which is why it's so important for us to, uh, to point that out and to highlight the limitations
00:33:11.680 on freedom that leftist policies have, because all of these people say they're, you know,
00:33:16.400 they're pro-choice they're against, they're against the, they're against the man they're
00:33:22.080 against authoritarianism, all of that. And so when you tell them, well, these leftist policies
00:33:26.000 like Medicare for all, they actually, they limit your choice. Then it makes them start thinking
00:33:32.320 differently. And this is true. Like I've already said of like every leftist policy out there,
00:33:37.920 at least right now. Yes. Everyone's pro-choice until they actually know what an abortion is. 0.98
00:33:43.040 Everyone is on, is on, on the same page for Medicare for all. Everyone is on board for
00:33:48.560 Medicare for all until they find out what Medicare for all actually is. Everyone's on board for
00:33:52.400 socialism until they find out what socialism actually is, which is why the left censors speech,
00:33:57.040 which is why they just gaslight you and say, well, you're just spreading misinformation.
00:34:01.520 That's not true. When you point out facts about these things, they do not want you to actually know
00:34:06.720 what socialism or Medicare for all or abortion or any of these things actually entail. They don't want
00:34:12.640 you to pick apart their details. They don't want you to inconvenience them with facts. They want to
00:34:18.240 hide under euphemisms as much as they possibly can, because that's how they win. That's their
00:34:23.600 effective PR strategy. And that's why I say conservatives have a much easier job in a way,
00:34:30.160 because all we have to do is remember what's true. It's much harder, harder to remember a lie,
00:34:34.120 but it's also harder because you're fighting against misinformation and euphemisms all of the time.
00:34:39.160 People who are constantly gaslighting you telling you that you're not telling the truth.
00:34:43.000 Okay. Uh, that's one video. The next video is this sweet video of President Trump. Uh,
00:34:50.840 uh, it's, it's so sweet. I'll show you.
00:34:52.840 So
00:35:02.520 this was the American Israeli council. I think that's what it is, or Israeli American council. And, uh,
00:35:31.240 this was a group from Israel. All of these kids have different special needs and he's just so
00:35:36.600 comfortable with them. I have spent a lot of time around people with special needs. And I can tell
00:35:40.360 you that even very good people, very, and by that, I mean, you know, they're compassionate people.
00:35:46.280 They're nice people. They're kind people. They, most people feel very awkward around people with
00:35:53.160 special needs. They don't know what to do with their hands. They don't know how to talk to them.
00:35:57.720 They don't know the tone of voice to use. They don't know what to say to them. They don't want
00:36:01.480 to sound patronizing. They don't want to, you know, say the wrong thing. And so most people are
00:36:06.040 just very standoffish or they start talking to people with special needs like babies. And I can 1.00
00:36:11.800 tell you neither one of those options is good. And to see President Trump just so comfortable,
00:36:17.480 so comfortable in this kind of situation, it's heartwarming. I don't care who you are. I don't care
00:36:22.680 what side of the aisle you're on. You might have problems with President Trump. That is fine.
00:36:26.440 This was sweet. Let's just accept the purity of this moment of President Trump being so welcoming
00:36:32.280 and so kind and so warm towards these people who clearly admire him and who maybe haven't seen this
00:36:38.680 kind of acceptance from very many people throughout their lives. I mean, to get a hug by the President
00:36:43.800 of the United States like this, that is so natural. I love it. I love to see it. President Trump's campaign.
00:36:49.720 If any of you connected to President Trump are listening to me, this is the Donald Trump that we
00:36:54.120 need to see more of more of this. Now, I am not advocating for exploiting people with special needs
00:36:59.960 for political gains. I'm just saying we need to highlight Trump's compassion, highlight the fact
00:37:05.720 that he has a big heart, highlight the fact that he cares about people because, you know,
00:37:09.800 I know the guy says a lot of things, but I actually truly do think that he is an empathetic and
00:37:14.760 compassionate person. I really do. I really do. I do. I do. I do not buy that. He is some
00:37:20.360 virulent racist that doesn't care about doesn't care about people based on the color of their skin 0.99
00:37:26.200 or their socioeconomic status. I just don't buy that. He's worked with too many different kinds 0.95
00:37:29.880 of people throughout his life. You can have lots of problems with Donald Trump, but I'm just not buying
00:37:35.160 that line of reasoning, not based on this one video, but just based in general. So President,
00:37:40.200 based on facts in general, uh, President Trump and his campaign, this is what we need to see
00:37:45.960 more of. This is what moms, the suburban moms that you are at risk of losing. This is what they want 0.68
00:37:51.480 to see. They want to see that you are compassionate. They want to see that you have a soft heart.
00:37:55.480 They want to see that you are warm hearted, that you are generous, that you can be this kind,
00:38:00.600 caring guy because they might not like everything they see at the rallies or on Twitter, which I
00:38:06.200 understand that's part of your persona that might be important for a part of your base,
00:38:09.580 but there are other people over here that want to like you, want to support you,
00:38:13.420 but they need to see some kind of morality, what they view as morality from you. They want to see
00:38:21.980 some kind of, uh, compassion. So we need more of that. Last thing, Peloton commercial. So if you
00:38:29.100 haven't seen the Peloton commercial, I don't really want to play it because it's a couple minutes long.
00:38:33.340 So it's basically this woman who was gifted a Peloton bike by her husband last Christmas. And it's
00:38:39.420 an actress portraying this and you know, poor thing. This is maybe her big break. She was
00:38:44.540 excited about this Peloton commercial. It just wasn't a very well done commercial. And I think
00:38:49.500 I might've talked about this a little bit on the podcast a couple of days ago, but anyway,
00:38:54.300 so she is decides that her gift for her husband the next year is going to be a compilation of selfie
00:39:02.860 videos that she took of herself, riding her bike for the past year and showing it to her husband
00:39:09.980 at the next Christmas. This was supposed to be inspiring. It was not inspiring at all. Again,
00:39:16.620 nothing against this actress and maybe nothing against the concept itself, but there were so
00:39:24.140 many problems with it. First of all, she was already thin, which that's totally fine, but you don't see
00:39:28.700 any progress. You don't see any backstory. It's not like we know that she has some chronic illness
00:39:33.020 or that she has some disease that she's overcoming or she has some fear or anxiety that she's overcoming
00:39:38.380 in her year long journey. It's literally just a woman who looks extremely fit and who's looks
00:39:43.420 extremely fit at the end of the year to showing her husband the video that she made on iMovie.
00:39:48.060 Like that's not a good concept. That's not interesting marketing. I have long said that Peloton needs to do
00:39:56.140 better when it comes to their advertising. There's so much that they can do. I read something that they
00:40:02.380 realized in 2017 or 2018 that they would be able to not just get the people who are extremely wealthy
00:40:10.460 living in metropolitan areas, but they also would be able to attract people who are willing to splurge
00:40:16.620 on something like a Peloton who aren't spending a whole lot of money elsewhere. I think that's absolutely
00:40:20.780 true. If you want to reach those people, you can't just be showing the people who clearly
00:40:26.140 live in a million dollar house and are already skinny like the people who are buying to Peloton.
00:40:31.740 If they are splurging on it and they're investing in it, they are likely doing that in lieu of a gym
00:40:37.580 membership because I would say either for convenience, which is a big reason, but also because they might
00:40:43.740 be intimidated by a gym. Gyms are extremely intimidating or they don't want to do a video,
00:40:48.140 you know, with some kind of circuit, they don't want to run. And so they decided I'm going to do
00:40:52.700 a Peloton. They've got top notch teachers. They don't have to go anywhere. I don't have to be
00:40:56.220 embarrassed. Cycling is really easy. It's low impact. It's really good for people who are out of shape
00:41:01.640 to start with cycling. So you've got a lot of people who are not in shape, who might even have
00:41:06.440 joint issues, who are intimidated by a gym. If you want to reach those people, don't show me someone
00:41:12.400 who's going from skinny to skinny, who doesn't have any problems besides the fact that she was kind of 1.00
00:41:16.240 nervous to ride on her stationary bike. Like it just doesn't make any sense. What you need to do
00:41:21.400 is you need to show a variety of people. You need to show the woman who is, uh, maybe she's postpartum
00:41:27.420 and she's trying to get back into shape. You need to show the person who maybe they have some kind of
00:41:33.220 chronic illness or chronic disease that they're trying to get over. You need to show all different 1.00
00:41:37.520 walks of life. You need to show the person who's getting up at 4am to ride their Peloton. The person who
00:41:42.800 is coming home from work and they're riding their Peloton coming home at lunch. Maybe they have a
00:41:47.840 night shift and they're riding their Peloton at 8pm. What you need to show is that you can Peloton
00:41:52.560 anywhere that you, or you can't Peloton anywhere. You can only Peloton at home, but you can Peloton no
00:41:58.060 matter what your stage of life is, no matter what you're going through, no matter what your fitness
00:42:03.520 level is, no matter what your goals are, no matter what time of day, no matter what you're wearing,
00:42:09.080 no matter where you have to go next, because Peloton has 10 minute rides, 15 minute rides,
00:42:14.500 30 minute rides, 50, an hour and a half, all different kinds of levels. Some are just fun.
00:42:19.120 Some are really intense. Some are like professional cycling. And so I think that's the appeal. Like you
00:42:25.200 don't know any of that by watching a Peloton commercial. All you think is, oh, this is for
00:42:30.400 rich skinny people. And if you're trying to appeal to everyone else, people who are splurging and saving up
00:42:37.200 for the Peloton rather than people who just have $5,000 to blow, then you need to show that,
00:42:42.620 hey, Peloton's for everyone. Like have a more real commercial. I'm sure if you wanted to show
00:42:48.300 someone's evolution over a year of writing Peloton, you could have probably found someone who has a
00:42:54.500 real story. Like why not just show before and after pictures? Why not interview someone who was like,
00:43:00.840 yeah, I started out, uh, I had never worked out before. I was just wanting to feel stronger. I was
00:43:07.980 wanting to feel more in shape. I got, you know, a bad diagnosis from my doctor about my heart or
00:43:12.340 whatever. He encouraged me to try, uh, the Peloton and I didn't know if I could financially swing it,
00:43:18.100 but I'm so glad that I invested in this because it's paying off, you know, for the rest of my life.
00:43:23.980 Why not show that? This poor marketing company, they're having a hard time. Peloton came out and said,
00:43:29.420 we're revisiting our marketing strategy, considering how often our Peloton ads are
00:43:34.740 parodied. Well, the marketing company isn't doing its job with this ad. Like be real, be real. If
00:43:42.640 there aren't, this makes me think there aren't any stories about Peloton users' lives being changed.
00:43:47.340 And I think that there are. I think that there probably are. I think the Peloton is probably a
00:43:51.800 great bike and I think the teachers are awesome and really fun. I think it's probably a very effective
00:43:56.600 exercise, but the advertising is terrible. And someone, the reason I'm talking about this is
00:44:02.060 because this was talked about on Tucker Carlson show. When someone sent me, it was like, why aren't
00:44:06.440 you talking about this? Cause I went on this Twitter tirade about this, how I have been saying
00:44:12.820 what Peloton should do for their advertising for a long time. And I was tweeting about my different
00:44:19.260 ideas. And I've said, you know what? This is for free. And everyone was like, why are you giving
00:44:22.920 your Peloton ad ideas away for free? Because I'm not in this business. I'm not in this business.
00:44:29.120 Now that I'm talking about this, I think that I did already talk about this, but y'all asked me
00:44:33.360 to talk about it again. So here I am. Because I'm not in this business, but I will one day,
00:44:38.820 maybe if I get out of this, I will think of marketing campaigns for people because it is
00:44:43.260 one of my very few talents in life. So that's all of that, I think. And yes, I am,
00:44:51.400 I'm willing to, I'm willing to render my services to you, Peloton, if you would like to compensate
00:44:57.580 me. But now we all know, we all know if Peloton comes out with a better commercial, it will be
00:45:03.580 because of me and y'all can play them this clip. Okay. Tom Askell. He is an amazing pastor down in
00:45:11.240 Florida. He is the founder of Founders Ministries. I've had him on the podcast before. You should go
00:45:15.220 back and listen to the episode. He passed out this weekend and he was in ICU. And I don't have a
00:45:21.280 whole lot of information right now, but they're an incredible Christian family who have done so
00:45:25.160 much good. And he is just so solid and helps and has helped the faith of so many people. So
00:45:29.320 please pray for the Askells. Please pray for him in particular. I don't, like I said,
00:45:34.120 have any more updates, but I think you can go to his Twitter page. His daughter also has a Twitter
00:45:38.880 page that has been updating, maybe foundersministry.org. They might have an update or
00:45:45.040 foundersministries.org. But please pray for the Askells. Please pray for Drs. Wisdom. Please
00:45:50.400 pray for peace and that he would get better and make a full recovery. He just welcomed their latest
00:45:55.640 grandbaby this year. And so I know they have an entire family that's hurting and praying right now.
00:46:00.300 So just keep them in your prayers. This is a longer podcast. There's just always so much going on.
00:46:04.980 But I hope you guys enjoyed it and I will see you back here on Friday.
00:46:08.160 Bye.