Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 213 ｜ Pop Culture Sans Propaganda

00:00:00.000 hey guys welcome to relatable happy friday and happy valentine's day you are loved by me you

00:00:13.160 are loved by jesus who died for you it is a great day to celebrate love whether you are single

00:00:19.320 whether you are married whether you're a parent not a parent whatever it is all of us uh because

00:00:25.540 god sent his only son to die for us have access to the greatest love in the universe and that

00:00:30.820 is a reason to celebrate valentine's day and in a much more superficial sense you can eat chocolate

00:00:37.440 and pasta and watch rom-coms that's how i like to celebrate valentine's day actually that's just

00:00:44.960 kind of how i like to celebrate every friday with my husband so i hope that you enjoy doing that

00:00:50.020 today i am going to talk to my friend alex clark she is the host of poplitics on igtv and we are

00:00:57.800 going to have a fun awesome conversation about what it's like to be a christian conservative

00:01:01.920 in the realm of pop culture and politics okay now without further ado here is alex clark

00:01:10.180 alex thank you so much for being here i'm so excited to be here ali i feel like i i want to

00:01:19.020 say that i am your biggest fan um but i'm sure there are other hardcore people out there but i

00:01:25.000 seriously i love bringing up your podcast and even before i worked for turning point and i was in radio

00:01:29.920 i would constantly talk about how people needed to watch relatable and it's kind of become my sneaky

00:01:33.920 way of seeing who's a real one so i will tell you so sweet i will tell you this story um i was in

00:01:42.060 church small group and i casually brought up your podcast and how people needed to listen to

00:01:47.100 relatable just to see how people would react i told him like that it was a conservative

00:01:50.900 christian podcast just so i could see okay who's here that's real and who's here that's not

00:01:56.020 yeah how did that turn out did people have reactions for you were they like oh this is way too intense for

00:02:01.240 me there were some people that were like oh it's a conservative podcast i'm not sure some of the

00:02:05.900 girls ended up listening and now i know that they're huge fans of yours and they love the podcast so i was

00:02:11.260 like cool so i i'm i've always been a fan well that means so much to me you really are one of those

00:02:17.380 people that is such a good encourager and that is really unique in this industry especially among

00:02:23.320 women a lot of women feel like okay if i promote someone else or i promote another podcast that's 1.00

00:02:28.200 going to take attention away from me and it can kind of be this like dog eat dog place but all it

00:02:33.240 takes is one person like you or like me or like anyone else who's not afraid to promote someone else

00:02:38.560 or encourage someone else to kind of break that really toxic mentality that a lot of people have

00:02:44.600 so thank you for being that way for just being willing to encourage other people and to promote

00:02:49.260 other people when they have things that you believe in not everyone is like that um okay now tell everyone

00:02:55.860 who may not know although i think a lot of people maybe everyone who listens to my podcast know exactly

00:03:00.940 knows exactly who you are but just in case tell everyone who you are and what you do okay so my name is

00:03:06.680 alex clark and i work for turning point usa i have a daily show called poplitics and we cover pop

00:03:13.580 culture from a conservative perspective it's a really short show that is on instagram at poplitics

00:03:19.560 and it's like the top three pop culture or entertainment news stories in under five minutes typically

00:03:24.880 and it just is like if if fox news and tmz had a baby that's kind of how i describe the show

00:03:31.380 yes it's pop culture without the propaganda right that's right is that right you guys have branded

00:03:39.120 so well i know this is maybe this is not a part of a conversation that everyone in the audience is

00:03:44.540 interested in but i daily am amazed by how well poplitics is branded and just how well it's run

00:03:51.100 not only is the name poplitics really clever pop culture without the propaganda like that was just

00:03:56.440 able to kind of come to the top of my head because it's so catchy conservatee like t-e-a

00:04:02.080 just in case there are some people that don't know the slang uh t is like gossip right it's like

00:04:08.400 news that you want to tell someone so you spill the conservatee uh cute servatives that's another name

00:04:14.320 that you've kind of branded it's all so perfect it goes with your specific personal brand so well

00:04:21.040 and i just think you are owning this space in a way that i haven't seen anyone else do are you

00:04:26.900 having so much fun thank you for saying that that is exactly what i wanted to do i wanted this show i

00:04:32.780 didn't want it to just be a show um i wanted it to be a family and that's like the biggest thing is

00:04:37.900 so i call fans of the show cute servatives because we're conservative and we're cute and we like fashion

00:04:43.840 and we like celebrity news and we like beauty and i i just felt like you're right nobody at all was

00:04:48.840 tackling this um and actually before i started working for turning point i was in radio for seven

00:04:53.840 years and at the tail end of that i was talking to some people behind the scenes just some friends

00:04:59.660 of mine in radio and i was telling them how i am feeling first of all extremely convicted by a lot

00:05:06.400 of the things that they were having me do as a requirement um two weeks before i quit i had to host a

00:05:12.420 gender fluid pride event um where a trans woman went up and talked about how even though she had a

00:05:20.640 didn't have a uterus she felt like she could she could imagine what it felt like all of the crackdowns 1.00

00:05:28.980 on abortion laws that were happening under the trump administration um and i was like yeah i can't i

00:05:34.020 can't do this anymore this is insane it's so funny how they always say no uterus no opinion but then you

00:05:38.720 have a trans woman up there which was you know someone biologically born a man now saying that

00:05:42.620 they're a woman saying like but i can imagine what you know it's like to tell for someone to tell you

00:05:47.140 that you shouldn't have an abortion and i'm very upset and then they all applauded but i was at this

00:05:51.200 event and i was just like there is no way that i can continue going to these um i i have to do

00:05:56.800 something else and so i was asking people i was like you know what would you think about a girl that

00:06:01.800 had a conservative show that was a conservative host but was covering pop culture do you think that in

00:06:06.900 the conservative space it would take off and every single person told me no oh really oh i thought

00:06:11.700 you were gonna say yes every single person told me no they said you know unfortunately alex like 0.86

00:06:17.000 that's the left thing um there's a reason why it doesn't exist in conservatism because conservatives

00:06:22.620 don't like that content they don't care about pop culture they're not interested and i just was

00:06:27.560 listening to this feedback and i was like but i'm a conservative and i like this content you can't be the only one

00:06:33.500 exactly and i i didn't think that i was and so and i was thinking about my group of girlfriends

00:06:39.340 and the type of you know we all love watching the kardashians and and keeping up with e-news and all

00:06:45.900 these different things but we're still excited to vote for trump and like i don't i just i didn't

00:06:51.320 believe that that was true um and so i was like really praying on it and i was just thinking god i really

00:06:58.120 want to get out of this a few months earlier we had also as a station sponsored the women's march and i

00:07:02.720 had raised concerns about that to my boss and she basically told me like you don't know what 0.67

00:07:07.100 you're talking about there's nothing wrong with the women's march it's not political it's women's

00:07:10.920 rights and even though i gave her a whole slew of information about how it's anti-semitic and all

00:07:16.320 the problems with the women's march how they're you know anti-pro-life um definitely if you're a 1.00

00:07:20.960 conservative and try to march you know they would freak out so i was showing her all of these different

00:07:25.400 articles and things about it and um she was like well we're gonna do it anyway i don't care

00:07:29.140 and i was just so sick of it and um i was really praying i was like god i need to get out of here

00:07:34.280 but nobody believe nobody's believing in this idea that i have and i have no idea how to start it i

00:07:39.680 mean i knew that i could just quit and start a podcast but then i would have been out out of income

00:07:45.160 yeah right and how do you how do you do that it's really it's impossible unless you just have a lot of

00:07:50.660 cash on reserve uh to pay people it's really not as easy as people think sitting in front of a

00:07:56.320 microphone being able to produce an entire podcast on your own so you would have had to hire people

00:08:01.040 and how are you supposed to do that so you're right you probably felt kind of stuck for a little

00:08:06.040 bit exactly and right when i started thinking that i i'm not kidding you and i and i talked about i've

00:08:13.240 talked about this in a speech before but i was on my knees the night before praying i was like god

00:08:19.260 please i know i know that i'm onto something um and if it's your will just please provide me with an

00:08:24.040 opportunity the next day i had a dm on my instagram from turning point usa saying hey alex we're huge

00:08:30.300 fans of your work you know what do you would you ever want to talk to us we we are we're kind of

00:08:35.220 want to talk to you about like combining pop culture and conservatism in one way wow or in some way

00:08:40.180 yeah and i freaked out i called my mom and dad i was like you guys so i and you've been a huge

00:08:47.940 fan of turning point for a while you've been going to their events and following them for a long time

00:08:53.380 right yes i and so i was just a fan i had gone to yws our young women's leadership summit the summer

00:08:59.520 before for the first time just i mean i wasn't there as a special guest or anything i just went

00:09:03.400 as a normal guest right i had roommates with other young girls they were all younger than me because

00:09:07.480 i'm about to turn 27 in a couple weeks and so all the girls in my room were like 19 or 20 but i

00:09:12.920 had so much fun because i was hanging out with other young conservative girls made so many friends

00:09:16.820 and i um was so excited when they reached out to me so they flew me out to phoenix at our headquarters

00:09:22.180 and um they had the intention of just inviting me to speak at events they knew that i was a girl in

00:09:29.080 radio that i was co-hosting a morning show on pop radio they thought you know i'm openly conservative

00:09:34.260 i would be fun to have speak at things but they didn't think that i would necessarily leave radio

00:09:39.200 radio and so i took the opportunity as soon as i could i said just so you guys know i would totally

00:09:46.340 leave where i'm at to work for you and i just said that and that's like oh really um and then that got

00:09:53.140 the ball rolling to come up with the idea for my show poplitics oh my goodness and it just kind of

00:09:58.160 happened did it feel surreal when the process was going on of you leaving and coming up with a show

00:10:05.180 which really is the intersection that you have been praying to be able to occupy it still doesn't feel

00:10:12.380 real at all to me i think about that all the time like this is what i dreamed about doing and wondered

00:10:17.280 like how could i ever do it and when we were even building the show i kept wanting to look at other

00:10:22.700 shows what's another podcast i could listen to just to see how they kind of did it what's another show

00:10:26.600 and i was like it doesn't there's nothing so i'm going into this blind i left you know my entire

00:10:32.140 life behind i was living in indianapolis indiana that's where i was co-hosting my morning show

00:10:36.260 my friends are there my family is there um at the time i was dating someone there and i left everything

00:10:42.920 to take this job to do a show that i had no idea if it would work because nobody had ever done it

00:10:47.980 right and um so we launched a few months ago in october of 2019 so i've been doing it for a few months

00:10:54.440 in the in the uptrend and the growth has been phenomenal turning things really excited yeah yeah so i'm

00:11:00.880 just still trucking and you know how it is when you're building something for the first time it's just

00:11:04.440 praying and trying to stay patient and having good expectations for like how many followers you should

00:11:09.280 be gaining and you know views and downloads for shows and all that kind of stuff so right now it's

00:11:14.240 it's going really well and i'm just praying that it'll continue okay let's back up a little bit

00:11:18.640 because there are some lessons that i want to draw out from your story that i think are really applicable

00:11:23.600 to a lot of people that are in our same life stage so you worked for this uh radio program

00:11:29.840 and you were unapologetically and outspokenly conservative while you were there knowing that

00:11:35.360 your boss and other people didn't agree with you correct now was that uh true throughout your time

00:11:41.240 there or was it closer to the end that you found the boldness to be able to speak up or

00:11:46.560 how how were you able to find that courage well i was a public figure and i had already before that

00:11:53.120 job i i was on a different morning show okay um and i was also right before i took this job on a

00:11:57.840 dating show and on that i was openly conservative so i knew that just googling me everyone would see

00:12:02.880 that i was conservative and so in the interview process for this for this most recent job in radio

00:12:07.840 i said just so you guys know me being conservative being a christian i'm outspoken about it it's all

00:12:14.720 over my social media it's all over my twitter if that is going to be a problem i don't want to work

00:12:20.400 here right at the time they said it's not a problem we like that you're different we think

00:12:25.200 that you're going to speak to a certain part of the audience and they're going to appreciate having

00:12:29.040 someone that represents them on the show and they were super supportive and i was like wow i can't

00:12:33.280 believe it this is so great yeah over time different managers coming in and out of the building some

00:12:39.680 were no one agreed with me there was no one conservative i was the only conservative in the building

00:12:44.800 however i had certain managers that still understood why it was important that i did speak to an

00:12:49.120 audience they cared more about that and understanding that big picture than they did about their own

00:12:53.280 personal views i had other managers who had a straight up vendetta that i know wanted to try to

00:12:58.960 get me fired because of it but i kept on there were so many closed door meetings i kept on fighting there

00:13:04.400 were tears of me being like i'm not even saying anything that that's contra you know that is that

00:13:09.280 controversial um i remember we we did a bit on the morning show one morning where we were just

00:13:15.040 trying i mean most of what we did was not very serious it's a morning show on pop radio so you 0.64

00:13:20.080 know stupid cheating stories and stuff like that that's what we're covering yeah but there was one 0.89

00:13:24.080 morning where we had the intention of it being funny like what fork in the road are you at in your 0.99

00:13:28.560 life and i was thinking someone's someone's gonna call and saying i don't know if i should get my

00:13:31.840 belly button pierced or not that's what i'm thinking yeah a girl calls in and says i am debating on

00:13:37.360 whether or not i should have an abortion wow well everyone on my show looks at me because they know that i'm a

00:13:44.000 pro-life conservative they're like oh my producer is like he's very excited because he's a producer

00:13:49.040 so he's like i don't care what's going on i just wanted to be entertaining so he's looking to be

00:13:52.640 like yes go you know really go off on this and so i just said um i think i had said um you know i i had

00:14:01.280 to be really careful because we that is like the one subject you know they they're like morning drive

00:14:05.440 listeners do not want to hear a debate about abortion but i was just trying to be really loving and really

00:14:11.280 kind and i just said you know i think that that i know that you're you're worried right now i know

00:14:15.680 that there are so many women that are listening that would love to help you out with your baby 0.55

00:14:19.280 or would love to adopt your baby i said i think god has a plan for you and your baby i would love

00:14:23.120 for you to reconsider um i i i said can i pray for you for a second on the air and so i did that i

00:14:29.600 and and that was just like i remember getting so many messages my work was like

00:14:34.320 like you it wasn't horrible but just try to stay away from that content yeah um you know try not to

00:14:41.360 get into that predicament again and i was just like okay but i knew that it was more important i

00:14:45.520 knew that it was good that that had happened and i had gotten so many messages from other pro-life

00:14:49.440 people like i can't believe that you just did that on on the radio that was incredible and then

00:14:53.280 we had had us there was a local school shooting in indianapolis and um we heard about it while we were

00:14:58.960 live we were actually at a live broadcast and when that had happened i said let's stop and let's pray

00:15:02.720 over the air and so these things started happening where i think that my work was getting nervous

00:15:09.200 that it could because pop radio is never supposed to get religious or political and my work was

00:15:13.040 getting nervous that i was getting untamed i'm praying on the air you know heaven forbid so they

00:15:19.680 were getting nervous about that and um it felt like i could feel the tension building of them constantly

00:15:26.800 being nervous and there had it had gotten to a point where i had just casually said like oh yeah i'm

00:15:31.280 an nra member at one point on the air and some woman had contacted the fcc the federal communications

00:15:37.520 oh my gosh to say that i should be taken off the air because she said that i was a danger to society 1.00

00:15:42.640 and that she was afraid to listen to our show with kids in the car and so oh my gosh when you contact

00:15:49.200 the fcc like that and report a television show report a live broadcast or a radio show they are required

00:15:55.600 to look into that take the you know take the tape listen to the audio see if you actually did violate

00:16:00.640 an fcc regulation which that an fcc you know think about jana jackson's boom traversing way back in the 1.00

00:16:07.040 super bowl that's an fcc violation saying you know um a swear word on the air that is an fcc violation

00:16:13.440 me saying and i'm an i'm an nra member was not but they had to look into it and so i just felt like

00:16:19.040 i always felt like i was towing the line of i'm gonna get you know i could get fired just for being

00:16:23.520 openly conservative but i just kept feeling like it was too important not to try to sneak in those

00:16:30.560 values and those views when i could and i think that's kind of where a lot of christians have

00:16:36.560 increasingly realized they are in their workplace or in life or even on social media is that the

00:16:43.120 issues that are at stake are so fundamental are so really pivotal that it's it's not time for us to be

00:16:50.800 apathetic anymore it's not time for christians to say you know what i'm just not going to speak to

00:16:55.440 what's happening in culture or in politics and government in the social sphere whatever it is

00:17:00.960 uh it's not time for me to be complacent and to be submissive about this it's time for me

00:17:06.880 to be able to one inform my views with the word of god and then from there be bold enough to say

00:17:12.400 what they are and of course we don't take any credit for that but i would say especially

00:17:17.040 in your life and your testimony it is a testament to the power of the holy spirit uh pushing on you

00:17:22.800 and saying you know what like you said this is too important for you to stay quiet and how amazing

00:17:27.840 that he also provided you with the opportunity to be able to do this for a living were you scared at

00:17:32.640 all to be able to leave what you knew and go to a completely different state where you didn't know

00:17:36.960 anyone oh i was so scared and i and i you know struggle with that even now i've only been out

00:17:43.120 here for a few months it's like besides who i work with i don't know anyone i you know it's it's

00:17:48.160 i'm working really hard and but we know how it is as an adult moving somewhere and trying to make

00:17:53.360 friends as an adult is is really hard um and so it's just like by the end of the day i'm like i

00:17:57.920 have no time i'm just i'm exhausted i want to you know eat dinner and then i'm preparing the script for

00:18:01.440 the next day show and it's just like i don't have time to go out so i definitely look forward to our

00:18:05.200 turning point events and things like that where i can hang out with friends where we all go to the same

00:18:08.800 events because otherwise i feel like you know i don't have anyone like here all my friends are

00:18:12.880 back home and so um that is something that i definitely was scared of and i think it's also

00:18:20.080 been frustrating because you know the hate and things that we deal with like it's not only being

00:18:26.720 public figures but put yourself as a public figure in the conservative movement you've got a whole you

00:18:31.360 got a whole nother group of haters and one thing that has been so frustrated and i and i've called my

00:18:37.360 parents crying about this and my friends and just when they're like what's going on what are you

00:18:41.120 struggling with and i'm like it is so insulting to me and frustrating to me seeing comments online

00:18:47.440 saying like well alex just took this job with turning point because she wants to be famous

00:18:51.040 she's just trying to get social media followers and i'm like are you kidding me yeah if all i cared

00:18:57.120 about was gaining social media followers or something i could have just sat down and shut up where i was 0.97

00:19:02.800 and just done a stupid radio show and just continue to you know grow market jump let that job go to a 0.98

00:19:08.320 bigger city be on a bigger show like that was the plan and i could have stayed on that trajectory 0.99

00:19:12.240 but i cared so much about this in the direction that our country was going and i knew that we had

00:19:17.200 an election year coming up coming up and i felt so convicted of like i'm getting you know

00:19:24.240 the clamp put down on me more and more of what i can and can't say and we got an election year

00:19:28.240 right and and so that's why i left that's why i took this job to do you know a show that i had no

00:19:32.880 idea if it would work and so that is something hard too that i struggle with it is so hard and

00:19:39.440 that criticism it's like it's like the call is coming from inside the house that criticism sometimes

00:19:45.360 comes from fellow conservatives even people in the media world and it really is i know this

00:19:50.800 sounds kind of catty to say and i don't mean it like that but it so often comes from a place of

00:19:56.160 insecurity and jealousy and even just confusion people who don't really know what you're about

00:20:01.760 they're still wondering is it possible to be able to meld something like politics and pop culture

00:20:06.640 and conservatism and for whatever reason not to cry sexist or something but for whatever reason

00:20:13.280 seeing a young woman stand out and stand on the front lines of politics or culture or whatever it is

00:20:21.280 and to be bold in her stances it can rub some people the wrong way certainly outside of conservatism

00:20:27.680 but even within conservatism some people saying what has to be done this way we can only talk about

00:20:32.480 these topics and if someone is young and someone is a female or someone is pretty or someone is doing

00:20:37.440 things in a way that i don't like it must just be for attention they must be vapid they must be fake

00:20:43.040 someone must be writing their lines for them i mean and i've just realized that's going to continue and

00:20:47.840 i used to hold on to that like when i first started and wanted to prove myself and prove you know like

00:20:53.200 i've got more uh substance and wisdom than you give me credit for and then i just realized

00:20:58.560 you know what keeping my head down and working hard those people sorry but they end up being

00:21:04.640 footnotes on the book that you're going to write one day they don't matter so that's just my

00:21:08.320 encouragement to you is that that that is going to continue um especially as you grow especially as

00:21:14.560 you grow people don't like unfortunately to see other people succeed they'll make up all kinds of

00:21:19.280 excuses because making up excuses for themselves or making up excuses for you gives them an excuse

00:21:24.960 for themselves of why they're not as you know bold or successful as you are so anyway well just know

00:21:31.040 what you said thank you so much that means so much too i um what you said about the call coming from

00:21:37.040 inside the house is so pertinent because um you know some of the which very few but there are a handful

00:21:42.960 of conservatives that hate this show they that i'm doing they they don't understand it and they've said

00:21:47.520 where's the substance you know why am i not talking about black unemployment constantly it's like

00:21:53.120 they're like why are we covering this conservative shouldn't be in this space why in the world would

00:21:57.920 there be a conservative pop culture show like look at how depraved hollywood is look look at what you

00:22:02.480 know what pop culture is it's terrible their values and you know you had michelle williams

00:22:06.560 talking about why she was so proud she had an abortion she was able to get where she is as an actress

00:22:10.880 like they're like why would you celebrate that and it's like i'm not i mean some things i like that

00:22:15.440 are in pop culture yeah i guess you could say i'm celebrating it i'm applauding it kim kardashian

00:22:19.440 yesterday uh i talked about in my show how she stood up for the president when uh abc tried to

00:22:25.600 do a gotcha moment on her and was like aren't you upset that in his super bowl commercial he didn't

00:22:30.000 shout you out for alice marie johnson you know getting released from prison or whatever and she was

00:22:34.640 just like no it's not about me and so yeah i celebrated that but i also the purpose of my show is to call

00:22:41.040 out the depravity and to and to have a conservative speaking to and answering to some of these things

00:22:47.520 that happen like cardi b endorsing bernie sanders well why is she doing that why is she wrong like

00:22:54.000 taylor swift talking about why you know marcia blackburn supposedly a snake why is she wrong like 0.99

00:22:59.600 there needs to be someone would you do that too on your show you cover culture a lot which is why i

00:23:04.000 love listening to relatable and so it's like we do need conservatives giving answers because you know

00:23:08.640 what happens is that especially with young conservatives i mean this happens in all age

00:23:12.720 groups but we get in our friend groups we're at school we're we're at work and everyone's

00:23:17.840 talking about whatever's trending yeah so you're you're sitting in the break room and everyone's

00:23:22.080 talking about the taylor swift documentary or whatever and no like you need to be able to stand

00:23:28.080 up and answer to what they're talking about from a conservative perspective and so i hope that my show

00:23:33.360 in a way arms people with that knowledge when it comes to whatever the top story is of the day

00:23:37.760 on a pop culture side because you know what it is is that not everyone you're not going to be able

00:23:43.280 to convert someone into being conservative just all of a sudden with like a super serious heavy hard

00:23:50.560 news podcast or news segment or whatever like you can send them a tucker carlson monologue and you know

00:23:56.320 maybe that will open their eyes but a lot of times the way people work when it and even with getting

00:24:01.600 someone to to um be interested in in thinking more about christianity too is sometimes it's slower

00:24:09.120 and you're you're you're you're feeding them things a little bit here and there not to overwhelm them

00:24:14.000 and i always explain my show is like you can say it's cotton candy conservatism but this is like look

00:24:19.920 i reel them in i get them thinking like wait i've never heard a conservative talking point that way

00:24:24.560 because they're willing to listen to a story about kim kardashian first and then i sprinkle in

00:24:29.840 something later that kind of changes their mind so it's like i'm reeling them in and then we you

00:24:33.520 know what we do we send them to ally and we send them to relatable and then you do the full conversion

00:24:38.240 oh no i'm not i'm not sure about that i do agree with you that the number one thing that young people

00:24:44.320 that people our age ask about and ask me to cover and obviously ask you to cover too is well what do you

00:24:49.840 think about the taylor swift documentary did you see what cardi b said or did you see what uh that

00:24:54.320 gabrielle union and duane wade their child is transgender what do you think about that so

00:24:58.240 conservatives like you said at the very beginning of this podcast episode even though they are not

00:25:03.360 celebrating all the choices that these celebrities are making they're still following them they're

00:25:08.240 still listening to them they're still even in the closet fans of these people and they want to see

00:25:14.000 someone on their side be able to rebut the popular messages that these celebrities are giving and there's

00:25:19.880 another reason too why i think it's important that you do what you do so the people that listen to

00:25:24.720 taylor swift they listen to what she has to say that you know marcia blackburn and basically all

00:25:30.160 of republicans are these uh you know they're trump with a wig on they're basically these people that

00:25:36.240 want to take women back to the 1950s and they're just against women and against progress and all of 0.88

00:25:41.200 that so if you're a young woman who doesn't know anything about politics you just watch taylor swift

00:25:45.360 you probably picture all republicans and all conservatives as these mean old rich men that don't care about

00:25:52.800 you that don't have your interests at heart and you assume that everyone who looks like taylor swift

00:25:56.560 or who likes taylor swift has the same opinion so you automatically categorize yourself uh in that in

00:26:02.880 the taylor swift politics category whatever that is you assume that there's no one like you or no one

00:26:08.080 who looks like you or sounds like you or likes the things that you do they could possibly have another

00:26:11.840 opinion but when they see someone like you be a conservative they're like oh so it's not just these rich

00:26:18.160 old white men that are out of touch not saying that there's anything wrong with being a rich old

00:26:22.000 white man but that's how they're thinking oh they can't relate to me but they see someone like you

00:26:26.320 who has the same concerns the same interests the same mentality in a lot of ways and they might be

00:26:31.760 more willing to hear someone like you a fan of taylor swift rebut the arguments that she made more so

00:26:38.160 than they would you know watch fox news right and that's the thing too as i think that that leads to a

00:26:44.560 little credibility that i have with people that are apolitical or on the left is that i'm not coming

00:26:49.120 out like taylor swift's the worst here's why she's wrong like i'm saying like no i love taylor swift i

00:26:54.160 mean she is uh she's the background on my phone like i i am the biggest swifty ever so i'm coming at it

00:27:02.320 like look i get it i am also a fan of her and here's why in a loving way i'm going to explain why she's

00:27:08.640 wrong and and so i think i get they're more likely to listen to like oh well you're just you're a fan like

00:27:13.280 you're not just trashing you're just a trasher like you actually do respect her and like her 1.00

00:27:17.120 i'm like yes but just like and i i get asked that question all the time how can you because

00:27:22.000 everyone knows i'm a big swifty how can you be a fan of taylor swift and still be a republican

00:27:28.000 after how she talks about you know conservatives all the time and i was just like well i have friends

00:27:33.040 that are very left-leaning but i still love them as a person and i think of taylor the same way

00:27:37.600 i still love her as a person even though i disagree with how she votes and that's what sets

00:27:41.760 conservatives apart a lot of times is we are not the ones to cancel people out of our friend

00:27:46.000 groups and stuff a lot of times we're willing to give them the benefit of the doubt like you know

00:27:51.120 let's you know we don't have to talk about politics but like i still want to be your friend because i

00:27:55.040 love your heart and it's just like you know liberals are never willing to do that for us yes well i think

00:27:59.920 what you do is so important and it really is a unique intersection when i was starting relatable

00:28:04.720 i kind of had a same epiphany is that yes there's a lot of people that talk about politics there's a lot

00:28:10.000 of people that talk about the bible there's a lot of people talk that talk about culture but there

00:28:14.000 aren't very many young millennial women i'm almost exactly a year older than you i'm about to turn 28

00:28:19.440 next week and there aren't very many people our age especially women that are saying well here's

00:28:24.480 what the bible says and here's how it informs how we look at the world so i looked at the landscape and

00:28:30.080 i said i don't see anyone doing that let me just try and it can it can be scary but i hope that our

00:28:37.200 shows and the millions of other shows that are out there that are really good and give a lot

00:28:42.080 of information i hope they at least for a few people um embolden them and at least let them know

00:28:47.680 that they're that they're not alone that there are people that view the world and view culture and view

00:28:52.080 pop culture uh the way that they do that's right you can join our cute servitive fam ali oh thank you so

00:28:59.360 much tell everyone how they can join the cute servitive family tell them where to find you what to 1.00

00:29:05.120 follow and all that good stuff okay so just find us on instagram type in at poplitics p-o-p-l-i-t-i-c-s

00:29:13.520 um you can also join if you want to like really find like-minded women our cute servitive facebook

00:29:20.800 group which is a private group i am super strict of who gets in we really vet everyone to make sure

00:29:25.040 there's no doxing there's no uh liberal trolls in there um it's all just like-minded conservative

00:29:31.360 women who love pop culture and there's been meetups that have been starting around the country and 0.89

00:29:35.200 people getting together on that as well awesome well thank you so much for joining and i really

00:29:41.280 encourage everyone to go check that out and to follow you specifically i think it's real alex

00:29:45.680 clark on instagram you can follow her on twitter as well she is a great follow she is a big fan of

00:29:52.480 president trump too so if you like donald trump and want news about donald trump you should definitely

00:29:57.360 follow her for that as well alex thank you so much for coming on relatable thank you ali so much for

00:30:02.640 having me

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 14, 2020

Ep 213 ｜ Pop Culture Sans Propaganda

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