Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 215 ｜ Would America Elect a Gay President？

00:00:00.040 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.

00:00:06.580 Today we are going to talk about a few things. We are going to cover some political news,

00:00:12.660 but we will be also talking about a biblical topic that I've been thinking of. A lot of you

00:00:19.600 have messaged me that you miss Theology Mondays. Not as many of you, though, as those of you who

00:00:26.160 have said that you really like the new format. So keep on giving me feedback on that. You can email

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00:00:53.360 about the new format. The new format being kind of integrating biblical topics and a biblical

00:00:58.320 worldview with what's going on in culture and politics, rather than having like Bible Mondays,

00:01:04.300 politics Wednesdays, and an interview Friday, trying to kind of intermingle them a little bit

00:01:09.280 just to be more efficient and effective and more helpful to you guys. Some people have surmised that

00:01:15.600 maybe I'm shying away from biblical topics because I'm scared of being controversial. That is certainly,

00:01:20.720 certainly not true. I actually enjoy much more talking about our faith and talking about Christianity

00:01:28.240 and theology and those things that I do talking about politics. Just to be honest, like I feel like

00:01:32.520 I'm better at that. I enjoy it a lot more. I enjoy thinking about that stuff more than I do politics,

00:01:40.020 but it's also my goal to keep us in the know on the things that are going on. And they're not just,

00:01:46.980 it's not just petty politics. It's not just, you know, trivial happenings. These things actually

00:01:53.260 have to do with, they actually have to affect, they actually affect people and they actually have to

00:01:58.440 do with our worldview and particularly our biblical perspective on everything that's going on. So

00:02:03.520 it's important that we know what's happening, for example, in the Democratic primary, but I will

00:02:09.180 touch on a biblical topic, like I said later. But first, before we get into any of that, you thought

00:02:14.760 that I was going to read an ad. I'm not going to read an ad. That is what you get for assuming.

00:02:19.400 I am going to start this show today by telling you a few announcements that we have. And so don't,

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00:04:17.700 you can effectively communicate with me, the production team and show guests. Personable,

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00:04:32.520 creative videos. It also helps if you are someone who already pays attention to the news, to culture,

00:04:38.020 to the theological questions that you see coming up in culture. This is a full-time job. So if you

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00:05:14.740 resume, cover letter, and reel if you have one. Second announcement. If you have not subscribed to

00:05:22.840 my Allie Beth Stuckey YouTube channel, please do that. That would leave. That would leave. What?

00:05:28.220 That would mean a lot to me. Third, my book is now available for pre-order on Amazon. The book is titled

00:05:36.100 You're Not Enough and That's Okay, Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love. Now, that title is a little

00:05:43.240 bit triggering for some people. I got some Instagram comments saying, please explain how self-love is

00:05:50.020 toxic. And I said, well, boo, I just wrote a whole book on it. So you're in luck. You can pre-order

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00:06:01.200 description as well on Amazon. That would mean a lot to me. You can buy some for your friends,

00:06:05.760 for your mom, for your daughter, for your sister. It comes out just in time for Mother's Day on May 5th,

00:06:13.380 but you can pre-order now and make sure that you get it right on time. I'm so excited about it. It has been

00:06:18.240 a long labor of love. And you guys just being who you are listening to this podcast have helped a lot

00:06:25.760 in helping create the content for the book. It is under Catholic Self-Help on Amazon. I have

00:06:33.720 no idea why it is categorized that way because it is not Catholic and it is not self-help. Although if

00:06:40.360 you are Catholic, you're still going to really like the book. I'm just not Catholic. And so I don't know

00:06:45.520 why it is filed under that. And considering that I just got a podcast review, a very sweet podcast

00:06:50.700 review, calling my podcast Protestant nonsense and telling me that I'm going to hell, I don't think

00:06:57.540 that I can be properly categorized as a Catholic self-help author. However, I love my Catholic

00:07:04.360 listeners and you and I talk about our disagreements a lot. And I appreciate how much in common we have

00:07:09.600 and that you listen, despite maybe some of our theological disagreements, you will still love

00:07:14.820 the book. Anyway, those are all of the announcements that I have. We are going to get into the latest in

00:07:21.720 some political news, and that's going to segue us into a cultural conversation about gay marriage.

00:07:28.140 Everyone loves talking about this controversial subject. And then I will end with some biblical

00:07:33.680 thoughts that I've been having for you ladies. Okay. The Nevada caucus is on, no, I said November

00:07:40.480 22nd on here. Nope. It is February 22nd. Now, remember the last time we had a caucus in Iowa and

00:07:47.820 that was crazy. We didn't find out the results of that for a few days because the app that they

00:07:52.580 used to gather and calculate the results of the caucus failed them miserably. And we all laughed about

00:07:58.240 that. I mean, it was sad, but we laughed about that because we were like, okay, this is the party

00:08:01.980 that's saying they should take over our healthcare system and they can't even handle the first

00:08:07.160 caucus, like the first competition in this primary that they have been waiting for and preparing for

00:08:13.240 for years, ever since Donald Trump took office. But according to the Washington Post, campaigns

00:08:18.400 are already saying that they're afraid the process is going to be chaotic in Nevada and that they don't

00:08:24.080 trust that this is going to go well. So that's great. Not a whole lot of faith in the Democratic

00:08:27.760 primary in the Democratic Party right now. The latest poll, though, out of Nevada has Sanders

00:08:33.300 leading the field. We don't have a whole lot of polling, but the latest poll that we do have

00:08:37.680 says that Sanders is leading as he did in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden,

00:08:44.680 I believe, is in second place in the polling with Elizabeth Warren coming in third and then Pete

00:08:50.480 Buttigieg coming in after that. So again, it is looking more and more likely that Bernie Sanders will win

00:08:56.780 the Democratic nomination. We spent a lot of time on Monday talking about Bernie Sanders and some of

00:09:02.420 his plans, particularly his healthcare plan and the problems with that, also the problems with our

00:09:07.580 current healthcare system. At least we cover that just a little bit, very lightly, the problems with

00:09:12.440 it. But you can go back to Monday's podcast and listen to that. I also did an entire podcast episode

00:09:17.600 labeled healthcare or named healthcare. You can type in relatable healthcare on, you know, Apple

00:09:23.820 podcast or wherever you get your podcast. You can look at it on my YouTube channel as well. And you can watch

00:09:29.340 it there. So I won't go into all of that too much. But we can see that it's not just conservatives that are

00:09:34.080 freaking out about the possibility of having a socialist actually be the president of the United States or be

00:09:38.920 the Democratic nominee. But it's also Democrats that are worried about that. You've got Democratic political

00:09:44.800 pundits talking about how bad socialism would be for the country. And I think they mean that. I think they

00:09:50.960 really do see the damage that socialism has wreaked on the countries that it has ruled that it that that

00:10:00.340 have implemented socialism. And they say, OK, we don't really want that. And I think they're afraid

00:10:04.440 that the country isn't ready for socialism. Most of the country isn't ready for socialism. So Donald

00:10:09.440 Trump might actually win. And of course, they're terrified by that. They've been working very hard

00:10:13.720 for the past few years to make sure that it is not a possibility at all for Donald Trump to win.

00:10:19.360 And guess what, though? Guess what? The media, as scared as they might be of Bernie Sanders,

00:10:24.820 they have brought us here and they're going to have no option but to support Bernie Sanders when

00:10:29.440 he is the nominee because they hate Donald Trump so much. The media helped move the Overton window to

00:10:35.620 the point to where we're like, yeah, it's a possibility. It's a possibility for us to elect a

00:10:39.740 socialist as the president of the United States. It's not that crazy anymore. Many in the media have

00:10:44.920 themselves or they do hold this attitude of metropolitan, anti-American elitism, that patriotism

00:10:52.640 just isn't trendy anymore, that it's not cool to say that America is the greatest country in the world,

00:10:57.520 that it's actually very posh to say that America is this fundamentally bad and corrupt place.

00:11:02.340 Something else that we talked about on Monday's podcast and why that's just an inaccurate,

00:11:06.380 objectively wrong position to hold. They've at least felt this way and articulated this kind of view

00:11:12.540 in some ways overtly, in some ways more subtly since George W's presidency, but a lot of people

00:11:17.860 would probably say before that. They bowed down at the feet of Barack Obama all eight years that

00:11:23.060 he was president. Barack Obama normalized apologizing for American strength. He popularized identity

00:11:28.720 politics. He then helped usher in an era of intense tribalism. Now, you might say and the media like to

00:11:36.980 say that our country only became polarized when Trump took office, but nothing could be further from the

00:11:42.260 truth. Democrats, according to every study that is available, namely the study that I cite a lot,

00:11:47.700 the Pew Research Study, Polarization and Politics from October 2017, you can see the policy positions

00:11:54.120 of the left and the social positions of the left, of the Democratic Party that have moved further and

00:11:59.160 further to the left over the past 10 years, especially, but longer than that, over the past 20 to 30 years,

00:12:05.920 we have two fundamentally different views of America now. Conservatives and Republicans have

00:12:11.540 not become more conservative, not really, maybe barely on a few issues, but they like to say, the

00:12:17.680 left likes to say, oh, Republicans are crazy now. They're such extremists. They're such bigots. Well,

00:12:21.720 we just hold to the same views that we have held for a very long time. It's the left that's actually

00:12:27.000 become more extreme, especially over the past five to 10 years. So the tribalism, the polarization

00:12:34.160 that we have right now, the two fundamentally different views of America did not start with

00:12:39.300 Donald Trump. The media love to say that, that before Donald Trump, everything was all peaceful.

00:12:43.720 We all got along. We treated people with a sense of respect and dignity. We could look to the other

00:12:48.760 side of the aisle and say, you know what? We share some kind of core value. But even though we disagree

00:12:56.220 on policy, no, that's not true. I wouldn't even say it started with Barack Obama, but it might have

00:13:03.260 started with Barack Obama. And it was definitely, for sure, exacerbated under Barack Obama's presidency.

00:13:09.500 Tensions between races, genders, classes, generations, they have always existed. But have

00:13:15.100 they gotten worse in some ways than they had been in recent decades under Barack Obama? Yes, of course.

00:13:21.540 And the media, as Democratic lapdogs, have helped put us in a place where

00:13:25.800 electing a socialist who once said when he was an adult in office that he doesn't actually mind

00:13:31.960 being called a communist. They have made it possible for us to actually consider electing

00:13:38.060 a president who is an outspoken socialist. And now the media, many of them are like,

00:13:43.480 uh-oh, we didn't mean to go that far. We didn't mean to do that. Oh, yeah, we're kind of beneficiaries

00:13:48.440 of capitalism. We wanted to just, you know, maybe reform capitalism. We didn't want to overthrow it.

00:13:54.040 We didn't want to overthrow everything in our country. Well, too late. Too late. Here we are.

00:13:58.860 I hope you enjoyed your free speech and freedom of the press. Hope that was fun for you. That stuff

00:14:02.960 doesn't really fly in a socialist nation. Anywho, I want to say something. I want to pick up where we

00:14:09.940 left off on Monday's podcast because I talked about why I don't think right now Pete Buttigieg is

00:14:16.380 electable. And as it turns out, there has been a news story that has been going around for the past few

00:14:22.360 days. I think it was at the end of last week that it was going around on Twitter and leftist media

00:14:27.060 were talking about this, how Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show that he does not think that Pete

00:14:36.140 Buttigieg is electable. And the reason why we're talking about Pete Buttigieg is because he performed

00:14:40.160 very well, surprisingly well, in my opinion, in the first two primaries, the Iowa caucus and then the

00:14:47.540 second primary that he did. He did very well at New Hampshire for just one second, the New Hampshire

00:14:54.200 primary. He did very well. And so we're talking about him because he is a serious contender. I

00:14:59.740 don't think in the long run, but he is a serious contender for the nomination. And so it's important

00:15:03.500 to ask the question whether or not he could beat Donald Trump. If you're a Democrat, that's what

00:15:07.700 you're asking. If you're a Republican, that's what you're asking, too. I don't think it's possible,

00:15:12.220 even though I've said Pete Buttigieg is very likable. He is very compelling. If you're a Democrat,

00:15:17.180 he is very sophisticated. And so in that way, he seemed kind of as like an opposite of Donald

00:15:23.440 Trump. Rich white liberals love Pete Buttigieg because they like this kind of well-educated,

00:15:30.220 hoity-toity, posh, metropolitan, elitist guy. And that is who Pete Buttigieg is. And I completely

00:15:37.520 see his appeal if you are that kind of person. I really do. Like, I think that he comes across as

00:15:43.260 very attractive if you have that kind of mindset and if you have that kind of worldview and even

00:15:48.100 if you're just a neutral person. So back to what Rush Limbaugh said. I know I kind of left it off,

00:15:52.580 but Rush Limbaugh said this on his radio show that caused all kinds of controversy in the Twitterverse

00:15:58.340 and in leftist media. He said, despite all the great ground that's been covered, America is still

00:16:03.900 not ready to elect a gay guy kissing his husband on the debate stage for president. Now, people were very

00:16:10.840 up in arms about this saying, wow, this is homophobic. Pete Buttigieg said, I'm not taking

00:16:15.320 lessons from, you know, Rush Limbaugh on family values or anyone who supports Donald Trump.

00:16:22.660 People are saying, of course, that this was, you know, the worst, most homophobic thing that Rush

00:16:27.600 Limbaugh could have possibly said. Now, is what he said a little crude when he said people aren't ready

00:16:33.220 to elect a gay guy kissing his husband on the debate stage? Is it a little crude? Is it maybe a little

00:16:37.960 crass for some people? Yes, I could definitely see that. But that is just kind of Rush Limbaugh's

00:16:42.920 way. He doesn't cut corners. He is blunt. He says what he is thinking. And that's why people like

00:16:48.540 Rush Limbaugh. But is this statement homophobic? Well, no, because Rush Limbaugh didn't even say

00:16:54.680 himself. As far as I can tell, I didn't listen to it. I'm just reading part of the transcript that

00:16:59.340 is being reported on. This particular quote that I am reading that is being reported on is homophobic.

00:17:04.580 I don't see how that's homophobic because Rush Limbaugh didn't say that he's not ready for a

00:17:08.660 gay president. He didn't say that. He just said most of the country is it. Now you've got politicians

00:17:13.220 on the right and the left saying, oh, that's not true. That's a that's a miscalculation of the

00:17:18.320 American public that people don't care about sexual orientation anymore. You had Lindsey Graham say,

00:17:23.780 oh, no, that's a miscalculation. People don't think your sexual orientation is going to disqualify you.

00:17:29.220 And of course, you've got Democratic politicians saying, oh, this is just this is the immorality of the

00:17:34.520 Trump administration. This is just where we are. People are so hateful and homophobic and all of

00:17:39.040 that. Now, the question is, objectively, let's like remove our emotions from this a little bit

00:17:45.420 objectively. Is Rush Limbaugh right? Is the country not ready for a gay president, for a president who

00:17:53.620 is not just gay, but is married to a gay man? Is the country ready for that? Unfortunately, we let

00:18:01.520 emotions cloud our view so much when it comes to these conversations, especially when it comes to

00:18:07.540 things like gay marriage, that we aren't able to look at data and say, OK, well, maybe, maybe not.

00:18:13.980 So I wanted to look and see how the country actually feels about gay marriage, because what we hear

00:18:21.420 on a daily basis, pretty much from pop culture, from social media is everyone, everyone, especially

00:18:28.500 everyone who is on the right side of history, is fine with gay marriage. They're totally down with

00:18:32.640 it. They would go to a gay wedding. They would celebrate it. They think it's just as holy and fine

00:18:36.920 as heterosexual marriage. Everyone in the country, except for maybe one percent of the country, isn't

00:18:42.320 OK with that. But according to this poll by Pew Research from May 2019, that's actually not true.

00:18:50.820 So Pew Research looks at the change of attitudes about gay marriage since 2001, found that 61 percent

00:18:57.860 support it today. So that's probably lower than what you thought. 61 percent support gay marriage

00:19:03.060 today. So a pretty good percentage of the country actually doesn't even support gay marriage.

00:19:09.420 What a lot of people say is such a basic fundamental right. We're over that. A huge percentage of the

00:19:14.740 country still doesn't support gay marriage, but it still is a huge jump at 61 percent, a huge jump

00:19:21.900 from 2001. So in 2001, only 35 percent supported gay marriage. Most people obviously did not support

00:19:30.300 it. So huge change. But the biggest change in favorability towards gay marriage among Americans

00:19:35.740 happened from 2016 to 2017. After Obergefell happened, the Supreme Court case that said, yes,

00:19:42.260 this is a constitutional right that gay people should be able to get married. So I also just want to note

00:19:47.560 what we were talking about earlier, that the left changed so much in their social and policy positions,

00:19:53.840 not just over the past 20 to 30 years, but particularly when Barack Obama was president.

00:19:58.660 Those eight years is really when the left moved so far to the left. And that's true as well about

00:20:04.540 gay marriage. So from 2001 to 2009, the percentage of people in America who approved of gay marriage

00:20:11.280 went up only 2 percent, only 2 percent. So from 35 percent in 2001 to 37 percent in 2009,

00:20:18.380 very little change in how people felt about gay marriage. Well, that number went up from 37 percent

00:20:23.900 to 62 percent over the next eight years. So from 2009 to 2017, went from 37 percent to 62 percent.

00:20:33.840 So if you look at the data, every social position, not just gay marriage, has had this trajectory

00:20:38.860 under Barack Obama's presidency, especially over the past 10 years, including even Trump's

00:20:44.200 presidency. So if you get the feeling that all of this, especially especially the sexual revolution,

00:20:49.540 is changing very quickly, you are correct. So only five seconds ago, all of the people that are

00:20:55.640 telling you that you're a bigot for holding to the age old definition of marriage is between a man

00:21:01.180 and a woman, that all of those people that are saying that you're a bigot for believing that

00:21:05.200 they also believed that very recently, you are not crazy for thinking that this has changed really

00:21:11.480 fast. The fact is there is a good chunk of Americans who still think this way, who still

00:21:18.020 are not on a board with gay marriage. So for Rush Limbaugh to say, you know, America is just not

00:21:22.600 ready for that. All he is not homophobic. All he is doing is going back to what the data actually

00:21:27.660 says. And I'm going to read that to you. So let's break this down. We've already said that 61 percent

00:21:32.600 of the country is for it, which means a large percentage is not for it still, even though

00:21:36.700 that is a good majority, a large majority of people. In 2019, only 44 percent of Republicans

00:21:42.740 approve of it and 75 percent of Democrats. So most Democrats, the vast majority of Democrats

00:21:48.420 approve of gay marriage. But that is a pretty big percentage of Democrats who don't approve of

00:21:55.560 gay marriage in 2019. So a quarter of Democrats still don't approve of gay marriage. Democrats are the

00:22:02.500 people that are going to be voting for people to judge. And maybe they would get over that to vote

00:22:06.780 against Donald Trump. But you've got a quarter of Democrats who are not for gay marriage. We're not

00:22:11.260 even saying just against homosexuality, but are not for gay marriage. A quarter of Democrats still

00:22:15.680 aren't on board with that. By religion, 79 percent of the religiously unaffiliated support gay marriage,

00:22:22.560 66 percent of white mainline Protestants. Only 44 percent of black Protestants are on board with gay

00:22:30.000 marriage. 29 percent of white evangelical Protestants. That is always consistently the most conservative on

00:22:38.860 any issue. I think I meant to include Catholics in this, and I accidentally dropped them off. But

00:22:43.640 also interesting to note, according to this poll, that the more regularly you attend church, the less

00:22:48.900 likely you are to support gay marriage. Just interesting. By generation, 74 percent of millennials support

00:22:56.120 gay marriage. 58 percent of Generation X. So that drops off a lot. 51 percent of baby boomers supported.

00:23:03.040 45 percent of silent generation. So that is like our grandparents' generation. And here's the kicker.

00:23:09.620 Let's go by race. And here's the thing that I don't think a lot of people in the media and a lot of

00:23:15.800 Democratic politicians who are always Democratic politicians and people in the media are always a

00:23:22.360 little more, if not a lot more liberal than the rest of the country, especially the people in the

00:23:26.900 middle of the country, even who identify as Democrats. So by race, 62 percent of white people

00:23:32.900 are for gay marriage. By far the most liberal demographic. 62 percent of white people are for

00:23:38.740 gay marriage. 58 percent of Hispanics. 51 percent of black people. Black people, as we know, make up a key

00:23:46.700 demographic for Democrats. They, I think it's like 90 percent typically of the black vote the Democrats

00:23:53.720 usually get. Well, 49 percent of black people in May 2019 said that they are not okay with gay marriage.

00:24:01.840 So guess what? Black people who typically, as we've already said, vote Democrat. And this poll doesn't

00:24:09.320 point out, but many Muslims who also typically vote Democrat are still opposed to gay marriage.

00:24:15.960 A large portion of the country is still opposed to gay marriage. Not a majority, but a large portion.

00:24:22.320 And an even larger portion of black people are not okay with gay marriage. And I am just assuming

00:24:29.160 that that's probably true of many Muslims who at least are personally conservative when it comes to

00:24:35.160 marriage. So they poll as opposed to gay marriage. Democrats do not want to admit this because their

00:24:42.060 current brand of leftism paints their side as this broad coalition of marginalized people marching arm

00:24:51.760 in arm, this intersectional group that has, you know, all hands on deck to defeat Donald Trump and

00:24:59.060 white nationalism. Well, that's not the case. They're not united on every woke issue that they

00:25:05.420 claim to be united on. And I think, I think that the DNC probably knows this. I think that the

00:25:12.860 democratic establishment, as much as they don't want to admit that a key voter group, black voters

00:25:18.440 aren't on board with electing a gay president. Uh, I think they know this even if they don't want to

00:25:25.700 admit this. And I think that's going to be tough. I think that's going to be an obstacle for Pete

00:25:31.120 Buttigieg because as much as Democrats, as much as the liberal media, they want to raise their hands

00:25:37.820 and say, wow, this is just so terrible that Rush Limbaugh would say something like this. They just

00:25:43.020 don't want to face the fact that a lot of Americans just aren't okay with it still. Now, I will say

00:25:49.420 five to 10 years, I think it's no problem. Like if we keep going in the same direction that we've been

00:25:54.900 going socially and we do get more and more progressive, uh, as far as people's social

00:26:01.400 stances go and, you know, by progressive, I mean, leftist, then I think in five to 10 years,

00:26:06.560 like that won't be an issue. I think someone like Pete Buttigieg or any other gay candidate would be

00:26:11.520 able to get the nomination. But today there are still too many people, too many Democrats even that

00:26:18.940 are not okay with gay marriage that just, that wouldn't vote for Pete Buttigieg. So of course,

00:26:23.900 Rush Limbaugh is right. And people pretending, people virtue signaling about that are just

00:26:29.300 missing the point. This is not even an indictment on Pete Buttigieg, the people who are pointing out

00:26:35.120 that he's probably not electable for this reason. It's not homophobic to point out. You can say too

00:26:40.160 many of the country, too much of the country is homophobic. You could make that accusation if you

00:26:44.280 want to make that, but it's not homophobic to point out the fact that there are a lot of people

00:26:49.780 who are just not for gay marriage and a lot of Democrats. Okay. So I just wanted to say that,

00:26:54.860 like, I know that's a hot take. I know this is probably going to cause controversy. I don't know

00:26:58.900 what you want me to say. You can go and you can look at this Pew Research poll if you don't believe

00:27:03.480 me, but it's just true. So I don't think that Pete Buttigieg is going to be the nominee. I just

00:27:08.160 don't, even though he's doing well, even though I get his appeal at the end of maybe 10 years,

00:27:12.240 he'll be able to do it. I just don't think he's going to be able to do it right now. I think

00:27:15.800 that it's going to be Bernie Sanders, as crazy as that is, as many problems as we have with that.

00:27:20.940 Okay. That's all I wanted to talk about when it comes to the election and primaries. And that's

00:27:29.000 all of the analysis that I have for you on that today. Now, I want to totally switch gears,

00:27:33.860 talk about something that has nothing to do with what we were just talking about. And we don't have

00:27:36.840 too much time left, but my husband and I were having this conversation the other day. Oh, by the way,

00:27:42.760 happy birthday to me. This is the first time you're listening to 28-year-old Allie Stuckey

00:27:47.420 on Relatable Podcast. Well, my husband was asking me, what would your ideal day be? I guess in light

00:27:53.360 of my birthday that was coming up, what would your ideal day be? What would you want to do?

00:27:58.660 And I was thinking about that. And it's more of a feeling that I was trying to articulate than

00:28:07.040 something that I would want to do. I'm not a very adventurous person. I don't necessarily want

00:28:12.080 to go travel. I don't have a desire really to go shopping. I would much rather online shop if I

00:28:17.540 have to shop for something. There's not really, I don't, you know, want to go hiking or camping or

00:28:22.580 something like that. Those are all fine things, but I would not say that those are my, that's my

00:28:26.180 ideal day. And so the things I said, I'm a very simple person. I want to feel accomplished at the

00:28:33.440 end of the day. Like I did a hard day's work. Like I checked off the boxes, all the boxes that I

00:28:38.700 could check that I have a clean house and to be able to sit down with my family and eat a good meal,

00:28:46.100 watch a good TV show, maybe read a good book at some point that day, but feel like I have my ducks

00:28:53.420 in a row. And I realized that one of the reasons why that's such a deep desire for me is A, because I

00:29:00.400 love control and I want to be able to control all of the factors that could possibly make my day go

00:29:06.580 wrong. I don't like distractions, even though I'm a very naturally distracted person, probably

00:29:12.280 should get that checked out, but I'm just going to manage it as I've been doing for the past 28 years

00:29:17.460 of my life. And I want to feel fulfilled. Like I want to feel satisfied. And I started thinking about

00:29:25.920 that. It wasn't supposed to be this introspective, profound conversation that my husband and I were

00:29:30.000 having. I'm pretty sure if he was just like, what restaurant would you want to go to for your

00:29:33.740 birthday? But I started thinking about what that feeling inside of me indicates and what that

00:29:39.460 yearning inside of me indicates. This feeling of deep satisfaction and accomplishment and fulfillment

00:29:45.200 and to have everything be in its place. So this desire that I have, this yearning that I have for both

00:29:51.640 satisfaction and control, and that to me characterizes my ideal day. And how often I forget

00:29:59.740 that for the Christian, the privilege that we have and the access that we have is to unconditional joy

00:30:06.960 and satisfaction and the feeling of fulfillment that I am longing for so much. And that I try to

00:30:13.120 seek as a Christian, that I try to seek in all of these outside factors that I realized that that ideal

00:30:19.960 day that I described to my husband is the day that I am trying to have every day and failing to have.

00:30:25.140 Like I so badly want to have everything controlled. I want to have everything organized. I want to get

00:30:30.700 everything done on my to-do list. I want to make sure that I am a great mom and a good wife and a

00:30:37.460 great podcast host. And that I am delivering all of the things that I need to deliver. And the house is

00:30:43.660 perfectly organized and clean. And I've worked out and done all of the things that I possibly need to do

00:30:49.080 to feel like a complete person. And I also realized that all of that, that pursuit that I have on a

00:30:57.440 daily basis and why sometimes I end the day with anxiety and I end the day with sadness and I end

00:31:03.900 the day with restlessness because I feel like I still have like fuel left in the tank. I still have

00:31:09.120 things that are left and I'm not comfortable going to bed yet. Like that restlessness that I feel

00:31:14.260 is a worldly restlessness that we see reflected in what I've called many times the toxic culture of

00:31:20.720 self-love that tells you that if you just do these things, like if you just check these things off your

00:31:26.820 box, then you can finally love yourself. You can finally be okay with yourself. You can finally serve

00:31:32.480 yourself enough with the things that you want and the things that you want to accomplish that you will

00:31:36.760 be able to love yourself into success, into fulfillment. And I've realized that access and the

00:31:42.680 privilege that we have as Christians is that we have. We have that at the end of the day. We have

00:31:47.640 that throughout all seconds of the day. Like we have access to unconditional fulfillment that is not

00:31:53.480 found in ourselves, that's not found in a checklist, that's not found in accomplishments, that is found in

00:32:01.340 Jesus Christ alone. And how sweet and precious and gracious is it for Jesus to call himself the bread of

00:32:08.280 life, for Jesus to call himself the living water, for him to be the well that never runs dry, because he

00:32:14.320 knows the deep desire of all of our hearts is to be satisfied. Isn't that what you desire? Isn't that

00:32:22.160 what I desire really when I describe my ideal day? I want to be satisfied. And the fact of the matter is

00:32:27.620 the self can't deliver on that. None of the accomplishments that we try to achieve throughout the day,

00:32:32.600 no checklist that's been checked off, no amount of weight that we lose, no amount of organization

00:32:39.500 or cleaning that we do will ever fill that deep desire that we have in our hearts. And Jesus knows

00:32:45.540 that. And he says, come to me, those of you who are weary, and I will give you rest. I will lift

00:32:51.420 your burdens. My yoke is easy and my burden is light. And how sweet and profound it is to know

00:32:58.140 that Jesus, the Savior of the universe, our Savior, provides the thing that we are truly longing for,

00:33:06.200 a deep and abiding joy and satisfaction. So I don't have to fret. I don't have to be restless. I don't

00:33:12.440 have to be anxious and worried at the end of the day that I haven't done enough in order to be

00:33:17.840 satisfied. That doesn't give me an excuse to be lazy. Of course, I'm trying to be a good steward

00:33:23.480 of the time and the resources and any gifts that God has given me. But I don't have to worry about

00:33:31.300 meeting these arbitrary standards of busyness and fulfillment in order to be satisfied. And so we

00:33:37.880 talk a lot about the dangers of over-introspection, a lot about the dangers of validating all of your

00:33:42.880 feelings, because not all of your feelings are valid, despite what the toxic culture of self-love

00:33:46.800 wants to tell you. But it is important to take stock of our feelings and to ask ourselves, I think,

00:33:53.660 sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes, why we feel a certain way. And the answer that I gave to

00:33:59.080 my husband that turned into this longer and deeper and more complex conversation was,

00:34:04.480 I so deeply desire peace and satisfaction and joy at the end of the day. And I find myself tossing and

00:34:10.680 turning at night, restless about the things that I haven't done or haven't accomplished or haven't done

00:34:15.680 well are like, you know, the pieces that are still just not tied neatly together in my life.

00:34:21.980 And I've realized that it's just going to be, if that is my pursuit of satisfaction, it's going to

00:34:27.040 be whack-a-mole for the rest of my life. I whack something down and something else pops up. And that

00:34:32.160 is precisely why, that is precisely why it is such a deep and destructive lie that you can solve all of

00:34:39.600 your problems. That if you believe in yourself, you can accomplish anything. That if you

00:34:43.880 go down this path of self-fulfillment and self-love and self-care that you finally are going to find

00:34:51.180 success and inner peace, like why do you think all of the people that you know that are obsessed with

00:34:55.720 self-love are constantly saying that they found a different solution, a new solution for all of

00:35:03.080 their problems. They felt a new energy shift that they've never felt before. They found this new yoga

00:35:09.380 pose like this new crystal, this new book, this new mantra, this new motivation. Every week it seems

00:35:17.640 like there's, oh, there's just been this new revelation that I've had that's completely changed

00:35:21.800 my life. Well, obviously it didn't last very long and obviously it didn't satisfy you because you're on

00:35:27.640 to the next thing, you know, five minutes later. And thank God that in Christ we have this abiding

00:35:36.560 peace, abiding peace, abiding contentment, abiding satisfaction that all of our souls so deeply long

00:35:43.740 for and cannot find in ourselves and cannot find in the outside world. So I hope that gives you something

00:35:50.480 to think about. And if it does, feel free to message me and to give me your thoughts and feelings about that.

00:35:56.720 But as a, as a birthday wish, that was what I wanted. And I realized that because of God's

00:36:03.920 grace, I already have that. I already have that in Christ. And so do all of you who are in Christ

00:36:08.660 and we don't have to run the rat race that everyone else is running towards self-love and self-fulfillment

00:36:14.300 because that ain't it. Okay. That's all I have for you today. I will be back here on Friday with an

00:36:21.200 interview and I hope that you guys have a great couple of days until I talk to you next time.

00:36:26.720 I'll see you next time.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 19, 2020

Ep 215 ｜ Would America Elect a Gay President？

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