Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 229 ｜ Save Lives ... and Livelihoods

00:00:00.000 hey guys welcome to relatable if you are watching this on youtube you are seeing that we are in yet

00:00:05.440 another spot there just aren't a lot of great spots in my house for this just well there are

00:00:13.020 but it's just it's kind of complicated i won't go into all of that so thank you for being gracious

00:00:18.160 during this pandemic in which we are all suffering and isolated uh for the aesthetic of my videos i

00:00:27.980 really appreciate that but hopefully it sounded okay i know that we're using different microphones

00:00:32.200 but at least at least we're still together right you guys because that's what we need in all of

00:00:37.400 this craziness we need to make sure that we are still coming together and having these important

00:00:42.360 conversations about the things that are going on today we of course are going to talk about some

00:00:48.400 of the things that are going on with this crazy coronavirus i'm going to give you the updates i

00:00:53.560 am going to talk about this bill that is trying to be passed in congress i am going to change my tone

00:01:01.000 and my tune just a little bit you are going to notice that i have shifted my perspective slightly

00:01:06.980 i don't disagree with anything that i've said leading up to this but i have my mindset is a little

00:01:15.840 bit different than what it has been and there are a few reasons for that that i will list and you will

00:01:20.340 you will notice that i i guess i'm just weighing the other side of this whole thing more than i have

00:01:26.880 and i'll let you know why i'll talk about the media response and we'll talk about china's response

00:01:31.380 and all of that so by the end of this hopefully you feel like you are um like you are updated and

00:01:39.220 abreast on everything that is going on now here's a very important question that a lot of you have

00:01:45.140 asked me on instagram and some people on youtube if you're watching this some people have said

00:01:50.000 ali are you going brunette are you no longer a blonde i know this is like the hard-hitting

00:01:55.800 question that most of you inquisitive people out there have been wondering and the answer is no but

00:02:01.500 the fact of the matter is is that quarantine life has restricted me from getting the highlights that

00:02:08.720 i typically get and before that it was just like typical mom busyness ali procrastination that stopped

00:02:15.340 me from doing that so before i get another comment or message about my hair being dark i just wanted

00:02:21.500 to let you guys know the inside scoop on that very very important subject now we will get in to the

00:02:29.720 pandemic that all of us are in okay like i said i am changing my tune and my tone just a little bit

00:02:37.940 that doesn't mean that i'm retracting the things that i've said about this pandemic

00:02:42.000 pandemic but i am going to offer a different angle that i haven't discussed quite as much so let me

00:02:48.520 back up and tell you maybe this is your first time listening or watching and so let me tell you

00:02:53.580 how how i am looking at this whole virus thing because it is a thing it encapsulates something that

00:03:01.720 is bigger than the sickness itself um i have been saying uh since the beginning of this whole thing

00:03:06.300 that we don't need to be flippin about it and i stand by that i don't think that we need to write

00:03:11.320 this off as a hoax i don't think that we need to say this is just the media ginning up outrage or just

00:03:17.840 the left trying to take trump down or this is an election year strategy to try to get joe biden to

00:03:25.720 win like i don't think that we need to write it off as that i don't even think we need to write it off

00:03:30.440 as china or different world powers trying to take down america now the virus is certainly being used

00:03:38.960 by particular powers both in and out of the country to try to take down trump or hurt america there's

00:03:44.840 no doubt in my mind that that is actually happening but my point is that we can't write it off as those

00:03:51.400 things and pretend that we shouldn't be abiding by guidelines and recommendations just because it

00:03:57.540 happens to be being weaponized by people that we disagree with people are actually dying people of all

00:04:04.580 ages are getting infected by it there does seem to be a proven benefit to intense social distancing

00:04:11.940 we've seen that in other countries like south korea taiwan and i do believe that a major way

00:04:18.700 i've been saying this for a few weeks now a major way to love your neighbor right now as a christian is

00:04:25.780 to limit your exposure to the public that doesn't mean that you don't go to work if you have to go to

00:04:31.320 work that doesn't mean that you don't go outside at all that doesn't mean that you don't serve people

00:04:34.840 who need to be who need to be served and help people who need to be helped but as long as we can

00:04:41.200 and as much as we can as much as is feasible we need to be avoiding the public how and when we can

00:04:49.720 you can be asymptomatic an asymptomatic carrier and pass it along to people who are themselves

00:04:55.640 vulnerable or who are around other people who are vulnerable so that means people who are

00:05:00.840 immunocompromised might be elderly people or people with some kind of underlying condition

00:05:06.180 like diabetes like a lung disease like heart disease like cancer and now we also know that

00:05:12.700 this virus doesn't just spread to those kinds of people but it also spreads and can kill young

00:05:17.660 people and healthy people and kids and so we should be careful i believe that socially distancing

00:05:24.480 is good i believe governors have a really tough decision to make in the midst of all of this

00:05:30.020 and they are trying to do what's best for the health of the public for the most part of course

00:05:35.600 they are politicians they a lot of politicians are thinking about being up for re-election and that's

00:05:42.040 i mean that's a part of living in a democracy that's a good thing they are beholden to votes they're

00:05:48.000 beholden to their constituents in that way and so no one wants to be responsible no leader wants to be

00:05:54.260 responsible for anyone's death or they don't want to be residing presiding over a state in which a high

00:06:02.420 number of deaths occurred because then it would fall back on their leadership and they know that

00:06:08.140 doesn't look good and so they are all picking very conservative approaches and by conservative i don't

00:06:13.860 mean politically conservative i mean um really like medically conservative they are trying to limit the spread of

00:06:22.940 this virus the only way they know how by limiting any kind of public interaction for the most part

00:06:28.980 and they are trying to do what health experts have told them is best and so they're in a tough position

00:06:36.560 i'm not saying we shouldn't criticize our leaders i'm just saying i understand that this is probably a

00:06:41.760 very difficult position to be in and a hard balance to strike this is unprecedented for everyone who is alive

00:06:48.100 right now everyone who is alive feels like they are going through the most maybe the most unique

00:06:53.920 moment in history in the history that we have been a part of at least um as of right now as i'm recording

00:07:01.240 this there are 40 550 confirmed cases in the united states 1040 of of those have been or are critical

00:07:11.120 and 499 i think um i think that's the most up-to-date number as i'm recording this 499 of

00:07:19.700 those cases have resulted in death so this is still a virus like i said that most seriously affects

00:07:26.460 older americans though young people are not completely immune to this they can still be vulnerable

00:07:32.760 there are young people and children in the icu there are young healthy people who have died

00:07:37.640 it's very rare i'll say that it's very rare for that to happen but it does happen and so we shouldn't

00:07:43.780 write this off as something that only affects the older generations according to dr neil ferguson he is

00:07:50.040 an epidemiologist who who um produced a model that shows the worst case scenario for the united states

00:07:57.100 the worst case scenario according to him i mean this is just one person and other people have said this

00:08:02.880 as well but according to him 2.2 million people in the united states die from this that would be

00:08:09.240 devastating obviously 12 000 people only 12 000 people in the united states died from swine flu in

00:08:15.220 2009 though over 60 million people had it which is kind of crazy over 60 million people apparently had

00:08:22.480 swine flu in 2009 and but only 12 000 people died from it which means that the fatality rate was really low

00:08:30.960 there were only eight confirmed cases of sars in the united states the cdc did a really good job of

00:08:36.700 containing that um back in 2003 only 8 000 cases worldwide and only 774 people died from sars total so

00:08:45.760 it is different than these things we keep trying to compare it to these but it is different it's also

00:08:50.660 different than the flu the flu has about a 0.1 fatality rate right now this has about a 1 fatality rate

00:08:57.840 and can be higher depending on how old you are and what conditions you have so experts are saying

00:09:03.440 coronavirus is more serious and will kill more people worst case as dr ferguson said 2.2 million

00:09:09.960 best case according to this doctor 1.1 million people which is a lot of people uh and this is why

00:09:16.840 states and counties are declaring shelter in place which looks different for each place but it essentially

00:09:22.060 usually uh means that businesses deemed non-essential are closed so usually that means

00:09:28.360 grocery stores are open pharmacies are open gas stations are open a lot of banks are open other

00:09:34.700 places can stay open but all other business has to be conducted either not at all or conducted

00:09:41.160 virtually restaurants can do take out delivery and and delivery people can go out but have to maintain

00:09:48.120 a distance of six feet or more between them and other people how do you enforce that i'm really

00:09:53.200 not sure in some places that means they have curfews so people literally have to go inside at like 8pm or

00:10:00.420 whatever the curfew is this means that many businesses especially brick and mortar stores will have to shut

00:10:07.460 down they cannot stay open they can't pay their employees because they're not getting any revenue that's how it

00:10:13.400 works people are getting laid off left and right this affects so many sectors of our society that i

00:10:20.140 don't think any of us can probably even imagine because there are just so many different kinds of

00:10:24.360 people and kinds of jobs that we don't think about on an everyday basis there are kinds of jobs that you

00:10:29.800 are thinking of and know we're affected that i don't and vice versa if you are for example i've just

00:10:36.140 thought about some like random not random but i've thought about some um different kind of careers or

00:10:44.540 different kind of roles that people have that are so affected by this like if you're a realtor

00:10:48.740 you're going to be hurting right now people probably aren't going to be buying and selling their homes at

00:10:54.260 least not as much and so you don't have commission if you are a nanny your kids might be out of school so

00:11:00.240 you can't do your job which means the parents who depend on you to watch their kids aren't going to be

00:11:05.440 able to do their jobs that might mean that you're not getting paid at all or maybe you're getting

00:11:09.800 paid something but depending on the kind of job that the parents have that they're no longer able

00:11:14.060 to do they might not be able to pay you anymore so you feel like you're out and you're on your own

00:11:18.580 trying to take care of your kids now without a job if you are in retail your store is closed you

00:11:23.820 have probably been laid off or if you're the owner of the store you probably had to lay people off if

00:11:30.400 you own a restaurant your business has gone down and you're probably not making up for it with

00:11:35.340 takeout and delivery which means you've had to lay off waitresses waiters probably all of your

00:11:40.820 hosts and hostesses if they haven't become you know takeout and delivery people if you are any

00:11:48.060 kind of hourly worker or someone who is going from gig to gig to make money which a lot of freelancers

00:11:54.600 are then you are probably really hurting right now because people aren't paying for your services

00:11:59.700 everyone is kind of holding on to their money right now not knowing if they are going to be the next

00:12:04.820 ones to get laid off and so they're not paying for anything that they don't have to pay for

00:12:08.600 if you're a single parent who just got laid off or whose hours have been cut and you have nowhere to

00:12:14.500 go for a job you are freaking out right now and if your daycare center is closed what are what are

00:12:20.100 you supposed to do even if you do find a job so there's a lot of a lot of things that we have to think

00:12:26.680 about a lot of people that are being affected in different ways and a lot of ways that maybe we can't even

00:12:32.380 imagine now if you are looking for a job and you either don't have kids or you can find child care

00:12:38.440 maybe your child can stay with someone that you know or there's some kind of rec center that is

00:12:43.200 open near you i know that there are dangers to that with this virus going around but just fyi cvs

00:12:49.480 is hiring hundreds of thousands of people right now walgreens walmart amazon all of these people all of

00:12:57.400 these organizations these businesses that are busier than ever are hiring so if you are desperate

00:13:02.220 for a job which a lot of people are look into one of these companies it might not be the most glamorous

00:13:08.100 job ever but if it's what you need to do to help your family a lot of people are going to be in the

00:13:13.780 position of applying for these kinds of jobs there is absolutely no shame in anything like that

00:13:18.800 these places have high demand they're some of the only kinds of places that have high demand right now

00:13:25.100 and they need more help but all of this that state governments are doing whether these methods

00:13:31.460 are effective or not a lot of people are calling them draconian which they are in a lot of ways i

00:13:37.600 mean it's a lot of government power that we are allowing them to have i mean not that we signed off

00:13:42.600 on it or anything but it's a lot of government power that is being displayed to try to control

00:13:49.240 individuals habits and behaviors and all of that in order to curb this virus but whether these methods

00:13:55.600 are effective or not they are going to have a huge a hugely negative impact on our economy that is going

00:14:03.720 to last for months if not years to come this will have a significantly negative impact on people's lives

00:14:11.240 and not in some like intangible way some way that we you know may not really see or that we're not

00:14:18.280 really close to but in very real ways ways that could literally be ruinous for their entire

00:14:24.600 families for their entire lives for their well-being for years to come the prediction that i've seen

00:14:30.680 floating around by experts is that we will actually reach a 30 percent employment rate i'm pretty sure

00:14:36.780 it was a 25 percent sorry unemployment rate 30 percent unemployment rate i think it was a 25 percent

00:14:43.720 unemployment rate during the great depression so we're looking at possibly a great great depression

00:14:49.060 um at the same time so just adding to the craziness of all of this we're talking about shutting businesses

00:14:55.020 down people losing their jobs not having school not having daycare not having a way to provide for their

00:15:00.660 families not knowing what the heck they're doing adding to the craziness of this gun stores are having to

00:15:05.820 fight to stay open and many of them are not many of them are being shut down because governors are saying

00:15:11.060 sorry this is not essential business so people that are nervous they want to protect their families

00:15:16.360 maybe you're a single mom and you're at home with your kids all day and you don't live in a great part

00:15:20.640 of town and you're like you know what i think i want to protect my family well right now in a place

00:15:24.880 like pennsylvania you can't go to a gun store and buy a gun the state supreme court there has ruled that

00:15:30.140 gun stores must close the aclu at the same time and other organizations are pushing to have prisoners

00:15:36.100 released from prison multiple states have now enacted policies preventing police from arresting

00:15:42.200 criminals for non-violent crimes to prevent quote overcrowding in jails so we're already seeing

00:15:48.320 looting we're already seeing shoplifting as a result of this of course the fear is anarchy and that's why

00:15:53.440 people are stocking up on guns and ammo and yet state courts and state uh state governments are saying

00:16:00.700 sorry you can't do that it's not essential business so that is why people are very on edge

00:16:06.000 right now and on top of all of that we're being told by some in the government that there's no

00:16:12.280 end in sight like there's no light at the end of the tunnel and i think that is what is making people

00:16:18.020 feel very uneasy and very unsteady governor cuomo of new york which a lot of people have a lot of

00:16:24.400 praise for and he did give credit to president trump and i appreciate that and again even though he's a

00:16:29.080 democrat and i think that he is absolutely evil when it comes to abortion like i think that he is in the

00:16:35.460 same position that a lot of people are trying to do what's best for new york but in one of his press

00:16:39.920 conferences he said that this could last this shutdown the shutdown of the state of new york

00:16:44.860 which is basically a shelter in place state right now could last as long as nine months nine months

00:16:53.780 california is saying uh two months but that they're going to reassess and they'll probably extend it and

00:16:59.300 that oh by the way they'll probably have to do this again in the fall some researchers are saying

00:17:04.940 that we will have to get used to this for 18 months until a vaccine is developed and then what's

00:17:11.680 what's going to happen then are you going to force people to get the vaccine because some people aren't

00:17:15.840 going to want to do that but you're going to force people in their homes for 18 months uh we are hearing

00:17:21.200 so far as i'm recording this and no concrete reassurances from anyone that hey there's an end in

00:17:29.700 hey here's what we're going to do to make sure that americans get back to work in two weeks we're

00:17:35.820 going to increase the number of icu beds we're going to make sure every person in america has a

00:17:41.160 test we're going to isolate the sick the elderly those with underlying conditions that everyone else

00:17:46.280 can go back to their lives while still practicing improved hygiene or maybe we're going to uh re-up the

00:17:53.960 economy in stages so maybe they could say first we'll uh let certain types of businesses open and

00:18:00.060 then these and we'll still restrict large gatherings but we'll slowly build up to where we were before

00:18:05.520 as we equip our hospitals and allow people to gain natural immunity we're not hearing any of that and

00:18:11.260 i'm not saying maybe those aren't the best solutions i certainly don't know that's why i'm not in charge but

00:18:16.640 we're not hearing anything close to that we're not hearing any kind of long-term solution besides

00:18:22.420 panic besides okay well this is what we have to do we all have to stay inside and shut everything

00:18:27.000 down we're hearing from most of our leaders in media you're just gonna have to get used to this

00:18:32.700 and i was on i was on board i mean you guys know who follow me on instagram and who listen to this

00:18:40.240 podcast i was and am on board with some kind of you know quarantining policy to where people have to

00:18:48.880 stay inside i certainly want people to do that voluntarily for everyone to avoid crowds and to

00:18:54.880 socially distance for a limited period of time for a limited period of time that is what i am uneasy

00:19:03.280 about this idea that this could extend for months and months without any tangible plan or end in sight

00:19:10.840 so when i'm encouraging people to love your neighbor by keeping your distance i'm thinking okay well we're going to

00:19:17.280 be able to phase this out in a couple weeks or even four to eight weeks even 12 weeks at least we would

00:19:22.800 know okay during that time we've got people working on the things that need to be worked on so everyone

00:19:28.160 can get back to work we got to hunker down for three months however long it's going to be three months max

00:19:33.360 in my mind i don't think people will just i just don't think people go past that but we want to hear

00:19:38.340 okay we're going to have to figure it out and we're going to do this the government is going to have to offer

00:19:43.240 some kind of relief to people during that three month period or however long it is and then we'll

00:19:48.360 all get back on track but when we're basically given an indefinite order to isolate ourselves

00:19:54.280 and to shut down the economy people's very lives their livelihoods then that's when people start to ask

00:20:02.920 the question it's just natural it's not heartless it's not callous that is when we have to start asking

00:20:08.760 the question is this worth it is all of this worth it for an indefinite period of time and let me tell

00:20:17.080 you and i know this sounds harsh but unfortunately it's just the awful tragic question that people are

00:20:22.840 going to have to answer is shutting down the economy so that 30 percent possibly of people are out of work

00:20:32.040 and destitute and unable to feed their families and suffer from the very real consequences of

00:20:39.480 joblessness for years to come worth it uh if dr ferguson's the guy that we cited at the beginning

00:20:46.360 worst case scenario model is correct that 2.2 million people die from this that's really bad

00:20:54.760 it is a 0.7 it's 0.7 of the current united states population that's 0.7 and look

00:21:05.320 that's devastating of course it's devastating every single one of those lives matters uh no matter how

00:21:11.320 old they are no matter what their underlying conditions were it would be a travesty for 2.2

00:21:17.480 million people to die from this and any of us we know could be a part of that statistic but

00:21:22.520 we have to think here we are shutting down the economy ruining people's lives taking away people's

00:21:30.280 fundamental freedoms apparently indefinitely for a virus that 99 of the country will survive 99

00:21:40.040 unless we just have completely off base numbers and this is going to end up killing you know 100

00:21:47.160 million people well that's a different story but it's not callous to ask that question that's not

00:21:55.000 putting profit over people that's recognizing that people will also die if they can't work that people

00:22:02.280 will suffer from depression and and anxiety and isolation and the inability to get other kinds of

00:22:10.360 health care that they need that doesn't have anything to do with the coronavirus

00:22:13.800 uh and all that comes with not being able to uh provide for yourself that depression anxiety all

00:22:20.920 of that comes with not being able to provide for yourself or your family and losing everything that

00:22:26.200 you have worked for your whole life and being forced into social isolation for months on end and

00:22:33.560 here's my theory uh americans just won't do it i i just don't think america is like other countries

00:22:41.000 i think that americans will say sorry like i'm out they will go back to living their lives they will

00:22:46.520 defy orders americans are not going to sit in their homes and apartments without some kind of end

00:22:52.920 date on this eventually as crazy as it sounds americans there will be americans who are more

00:22:59.480 willing to risk death and serious illness than giving up their freedom in their business i think

00:23:06.200 that's true no matter what side of the aisle that you're on uh people who are minimizing that concern

00:23:11.880 who are saying i saw someone on twitter say oh boohoo you have to watch netflix for the next few months

00:23:16.760 yeah that was like a true funny thing to say when we were talking about a weekend when we were

00:23:21.480 talking about like a couple weeks or even a month but how do you expect a family of five to survive

00:23:28.440 on watching netflix and eating bonbons for the next six to 18 months and people are saying well you

00:23:35.080 know the government will help you out they'll take care of you yeah well we'll get into that whole

00:23:41.640 thing in a second that's just absolute madness but even if the freaking bill is passed by congress

00:23:48.520 fifteen hundred dollars a month plus a few hundred bucks for your kids ain't gonna cut it for most

00:23:53.800 people especially if you live in a part of the country where it's really expensive to live

00:23:57.720 and yes the government is saying people can't be evicted right now which is good but we also have to

00:24:03.320 understand those kinds of policies don't just affect the people that aren't being evicted it might

00:24:09.720 like i said that might be necessary for the time being but it affects other people as well if you

00:24:14.360 own apartments and your income is coming from rent payments and people stop paying rent and you can't

00:24:20.200 evict them and get another tenant that means that you don't get paid and now your family is suffering

00:24:26.120 most people on the left this is more of a leftist idea but there are probably plenty of people who

00:24:31.960 maybe believe this on the right think that people who are on a higher rung of the ladder have to take

00:24:37.800 a hit for the people on the lower rung of the ladder or else they're evil they're greedy and they are miserly

00:24:45.960 and mean so if a landlord evicts someone that means that they are heartless and cruel not that they

00:24:52.200 have a family to take care of and are providing for themselves again i'm not talking about this

00:24:56.600 particular situation it's probably right to make sure that people can't get evicted i think it is right

00:25:01.800 but this has a negative effect on other people as well it doesn't just stop the person the tenant

00:25:09.240 who is being evicted and that's true of all of these government handouts that are going to happen

00:25:14.760 it's going to have some kind of effect on our economy they might be necessary but we have to think

00:25:20.520 about the implications of them too a lot of companies small businesses in particular uh cannot cannot

00:25:30.440 abide by this idea that well if you are really compassionate and if you really care about your

00:25:37.240 workers if you really care about the people you employ you won't lay anyone off during this hard

00:25:43.000 time you will keep people on your payroll no matter what yeah that sounds good and i think that most

00:25:49.640 companies would do that and hey if a company can do that i think they should do that like if there

00:25:54.840 is any compassion you can spare if there's any mercy you can have if you've got any money

00:26:00.360 that you can move around to make sure that you still have people on your payroll then do it but

00:26:05.240 i also understand there's a lot of small businesses that can't or else they'll go under and so instead

00:26:10.680 of going from 15 jobs to four jobs you'll go from 15 jobs to zero jobs which absolutely doesn't help

00:26:16.680 anyone so layoffs are going to happen that doesn't mean that the people who do the layoffs in every

00:26:22.120 single case are greedy in some cases yes like i said any company that can keep the people on its

00:26:28.840 payroll without going under should try as hard as they can to do so but small businesses aren't going

00:26:36.040 to be able to do that and so they need some kind of relief they need some kind of help so we all need

00:26:41.560 to have a little bit of perspective and a little bit of empathy for how this is affecting people

00:26:46.920 on all rungs of the ladder and realize that the long-term effects of the virus on people's lives

00:26:53.560 financially relationally emotionally psychologically may be as bad if not worse in some ways in the

00:27:02.280 short-term physical effects of the virus itself the fact is we can't let doctors make policy we can't

00:27:10.440 doctors are wonderful i love doctors and i think we should listen to them we should listen to the experts

00:27:15.880 when it comes to public health but we can't let them run the country because they don't know anything

00:27:21.800 about economics and economics also affect people's lives like they're not the ceo of the country they

00:27:28.680 are not in charge and they're not in charge for a reason they're in charge of the part that they're

00:27:32.920 in charge of but they can't be setting policy because they just don't have their eye on economic and

00:27:39.240 long-term effects they we should listen to them on the things that we need to listen to them on

00:27:44.120 but they can't be the only people that trump listens to they can't be the only people that

00:27:49.000 our governments listen to because they are always going to pick the most conservative option

00:27:54.600 because that's what doctors do it's kind of like lawyers in their own way like you don't get

00:27:59.240 business advice typically from a lawyer because they are thinking liability they're not thinking

00:28:06.040 what's most lucrative or what's necessarily best business wise they are thinking oh how are we going to

00:28:12.840 avoid getting sued and doctors are thinking in the same way in medical terms but we have a bigger

00:28:20.680 scope of life that has to be considered by our leaders than just the medical part of this it's

00:28:27.320 kind of like so if you're a mom especially if you're a mom who's gotten a c-section before you know

00:28:33.080 that america has an incredibly high c-section rate which is just stupid for the advanced medical care that we

00:28:39.560 have and for as awesome of a country and wealthy of a country that we have we have a way too high

00:28:46.600 maternal mortality rate part of that is because of the high c-section rate and when i say high c-section

00:28:52.360 rate i am talking about women who really don't need a c-section so i'm not talking about high risk

00:28:57.400 pregnancies i'm talking about we have a really high c-section rate for low risk pregnancies well

00:29:02.200 there are a lot of different reasons for that but one reason is because doctors and in particular

00:29:06.680 doctors in america which like i said are so wonderful and i'm so thankful for they tend to

00:29:12.280 lean towards in a lot of cases it seems like control so how can i control this outcome i don't

00:29:18.120 want to be sued i don't want to be held liable so if this birth if this labor is going a little bit too

00:29:24.200 long there are a lot of doctors who are c-section happy because they know they can control the outcome

00:29:31.320 as much as they can instead of letting things go and some kind of complication possibly arising

00:29:37.240 but there are a lot of long-term complications that women who have c-sections go through

00:29:43.160 that the doctors it seems like in the moment who are c-section happy to c-section happy aren't

00:29:48.120 thinking about that's just one example and kind of a metaphor for all of this that doctors so often

00:29:55.640 pick the thing that gives them the most control that they feel like will um end with the the best

00:30:03.480 or the safest outcome in the moment that is not necessarily best holistically and long term and i am

00:30:12.200 afraid that could be some of what is happening right now and taking these draconian measures without some

00:30:20.360 kind of end date we are thinking too much in exclusively medical terms and not in economic

00:30:27.800 terms and in the overall well-being of the country so what we need to hear from our leaders right now

00:30:35.080 is not sorry but this is what we're going to have to do for as long as we need to save lives uh i'm sorry

00:30:43.000 but that's just not going to cut it for much longer what people need to hear is uh this is what we're

00:30:49.880 going to do for x amount of weeks want to make it 12 want to make it i don't know 16 whatever that's

00:30:56.600 fine but give people a light and a hope to cling to uh here's what we're going to do for two weeks

00:31:02.520 eight weeks 18 weeks whatever and then say okay while people are isolated here is what we're going

00:31:08.120 to do on the federal level on the state and or local level we're going to make sure each hospital

00:31:15.400 is completely equipped to handle as many severe cases as they need we're going to partner with

00:31:22.200 the private sector to do this we are going to continue working on finding medicines uh that

00:31:27.560 prove effective whether that's anti-malaria drugs uh something else there has been uh a drug that uh

00:31:37.240 that president trump has touted that of course the media criticized him over which is just crazy

00:31:43.320 chloroquine i think is how you pronounce it and we will keep you up to date regularly on this this

00:31:48.440 is what the state official should say we are going to be working tire tirelessly behind the scenes on

00:31:53.400 an economic recovery program to ensure that americans can get back to work as soon as possible

00:31:58.200 in the meantime we are going to help out corporations small businesses charities individuals who need it

00:32:03.960 uh this can look a lot of different ways of course and we are going to from now on be actively and

00:32:09.560 continually preparing our disaster response to ensure that the next time something like this happens

00:32:14.920 our hospitals are prepared our curve flattening methods are effective and our economy remains

00:32:19.640 functional this is what we need to hear we want to hear a plan we want to hear that you're not going

00:32:25.480 to sacrifice everyone's livelihoods without a thought um and i do believe that trump knows this i do i

00:32:32.840 believe this is in his instincts he is a businessman he knows this he tweeted sunday in all caps we cannot

00:32:40.520 let the curse the cure be worse than the problem itself at the end of the 15 day period we will

00:32:47.080 make a decision as to which way we want to go and he's correct and i'm glad he said that uh one great

00:32:52.760 thing about trump being on twitter and so focused on the media and there are a lot of downsides to those

00:32:57.640 things but it's that he always has his finger on the pulse remember he is a tv star he is a producer

00:33:04.200 so he pays attention to ratings and what people are saying in his audience and the common theme on

00:33:10.760 conservative twitter and in conservative media recently has been yeah guys this is bad let's take

00:33:16.280 this seriously but we can't do this forever we can't do it forever and when is going when is someone

00:33:22.280 going to tell us how we are not going to tank the economy for good and trump has picked up on that

00:33:30.040 and he's saying hey i hear you i see you and i agree with you that we have to figure this out and i think

00:33:36.600 that that has been his desire all along but he understandably doesn't want to be the guy who is

00:33:43.960 blamed for 2.2 million people dying because he didn't do enough but no one is saying that he can't do

00:33:50.600 more that the government can't do more they can't get tests out there provide hospitals with what they

00:33:55.240 need let's protect the vulnerable but as the ceo of this country trump has got to come up with a plan

00:34:01.640 for how we survive how we come out on the other side not irreparably damaged at this point i don't

00:34:08.120 think platitudes and reassurances that we're going to be okay like we're going to get through this

00:34:12.920 we're americans we're strong is helpful i want some kind of concrete plan and i know this is a

00:34:18.600 a dynamic situation and it's really hard to do that but come up with some kind of template some

00:34:25.720 kind of outline and say you know this might change depending on the strength of the virus and what

00:34:31.160 things look like but we need some kind of a plan to move forward because guess what guess what apparently

00:34:40.840 there is one side of the aisle one political party that does not give one rat's hiney about

00:34:50.280 what is happening to american workers what is happening to our economy and what is happening to

00:34:56.840 you and your family and i am not trying to politicize this in fact i don't want to politicize this

00:35:02.200 like i don't want to make this about oh gosh democrats are ruining the country i don't want to because

00:35:07.000 i don't want to feel that kind of negativity i don't want you to feel that kind of negativity

00:35:11.400 that's not my desire like as i talked about on friday there were people on both sides of the aisle

00:35:15.720 coming together to say the policies that president trump is putting forth are good and i'm like you

00:35:20.040 know this is what we need we need more of this to heal the country but unfortunately what's happening

00:35:25.080 right now at least as i'm recording this on capitol hill doesn't seem to have that same energy that we

00:35:31.080 were talking about on friday so here's the headline from the washington post democrats block key vote on

00:35:38.040 two trillion dollar coronavirus bill this is what the bill would have guaranteed according to the

00:35:44.280 washington post the legislation aims to flood the economy with money from individuals to small

00:35:49.160 businesses to large industries amid a wave of layoffs and a sharp contraction to consumer spending

00:35:56.120 it would direct 1200 to most adults and 500 to most children it would also create a 500

00:36:02.840 billion dollar lending program for businesses cities and states and another 350 billion to help small

00:36:08.760 businesses meet payroll costs there were a lot of other things in there too like helping health

00:36:12.760 centers nurse nursing homes and hospitals democrats blocked the vote on the coronavirus relief bill

00:36:19.960 claiming that the bill leaned too much in favor of corporations and not in favor of the workers

00:36:25.560 well you just heard what it guarantees to the workers and by the way corporations don't exist

00:36:30.600 without workers and so if you hurt corporations and they don't exist anymore workers have no place

00:36:36.040 to work uh it's not reality that this leans too much in favor of businesses this wasn't a perfect bill

00:36:43.480 but republic republicans had made huge compromises to come together with democrats to make this happen

00:36:49.560 democrats are using this crisis to reshape the economy to reshape our structure

00:36:55.400 to fit their liking the democratic house majority whip said this this is a tremendous opportunity to

00:37:01.640 restructure things to fit our vision so they're explicitly just coming out and saying that this

00:37:07.480 is what we're trying to do to take advantage of a crisis to put things into this bill that have

00:37:12.200 nothing to do with this crisis to restructure and reconfigure this society as we see fit guy benson of

00:37:20.360 fox news talked to senior gop aide who said uh to a senior gop aide who said that pelosi and chuck

00:37:26.920 schumer are pushing for these three major things that have nothing to do with pandemic number one

00:37:32.680 unprecedented collective bargaining powers for unions number two increase fuel emission standards for

00:37:38.760 airlines number three expansion of wind and solar tax credits according to senator linkford of

00:37:45.480 wilhelma republican chuck schumer gave senate republicans a 10-page list of things he wanted

00:37:50.520 included in the relief bill a week ago and republicans accommodated most of that 28 items on this list

00:37:58.840 most of the things that he demanded and still schumer and democrats are blocking the vote delaying aid for

00:38:04.360 the american people we're talking about two trillion dollars to the american people that democrats for

00:38:10.280 partisan reasons are blocking representative dan crinshaw said this on twitter i am not one to

00:38:17.160 make hyperbolic statements uh but what but what senate democrats have done is truly awful this bill was

00:38:23.960 negotiated in good faith been monitoring its progress all week he's talking about the bill over in the

00:38:29.560 senate he's obviously in the house it can save our economy and they killed it out of spite and bitterness

00:38:35.160 hold dems accountable nancy pelosi's version of the house bill is over 1100 pages long and it includes

00:38:42.760 things like ensuring corporate board diversity so the boards of corporations ensuring their ethnic

00:38:49.560 diversity gender diversity and pay equity among minorities that's what's in this coronavirus relief

00:38:56.680 bill has nothing to do with that requiring all states to have early voting requiring same-day voting

00:39:03.240 registration and requiring airlines to offset their carbon emissions we're talking about the relief for

00:39:10.520 families and for individuals amid a pandemic these are the things that nancy pelosi is trying to put in

00:39:15.960 this relief bill that have nothing to do with this crisis uh things that have to do with uh her vision

00:39:23.000 and the interest groups that she represents their vision of what america should look like and don't forget

00:39:27.640 that at one point just a couple weeks ago pelosi was trying to put in language that would force

00:39:33.080 federal tax dollars our tax dollars to fund abortion despite the hyde amendment so she's psycho uh the

00:39:40.360 bill is supposed to offer relief to small businesses some big big businesses individuals families hospitals

00:39:48.680 and other groups that needed it's not supposed to be a liberal wish list it's not supposed to be

00:39:53.480 any kind of politicians wish list and yet that is exactly what pelosi and schumer are trying to make

00:40:00.280 this out to be author and journalist andy mccarthy said this on twitter so dem's derail senate bill

00:40:06.840 right save the day house bill with all the ideological lard used to derail senate bill

00:40:12.280 pass it without negotiation in the house then argue gop senate is denying desperately needed

00:40:17.880 financial relief to the american people by not passing a house bill yes that's exactly what they're

00:40:23.240 doing that is exactly what their plan is they are going to turn this on republicans the media will help

00:40:28.200 them uh when republicans don't agree with their additions which have nothing to do for the fifth

00:40:32.840 time with coronavirus they will say republicans want people to die uh here is mitch mcconnell on

00:40:40.680 some of this this is not a juicy political opportunity this is a national emergency republicans

00:40:47.160 understand that a national crisis calls for urgency and it calls for bipartisanship

00:40:52.520 it's time for that good faith to be reciprocated

00:41:00.360 it's time for democrats to stop playing politics and step up to the plate and he's right this is absurd

00:41:07.560 this is evil it is wicked i'm not saying republicans are perfect but to use this crisis to try to advance

00:41:14.760 things issues policies that have nothing to do with this crisis is wicked never have republicans and

00:41:20.440 democrats not been able to come together in a time of crisis at least not in recent history

00:41:25.640 9 11 the recession they were able to put down their partisan swords and get it done and they're not

00:41:30.840 able to right now and right now at this moment in this particular time the responsibility rests solely

00:41:37.000 on the democrats uh but democrats have become so deranged so loathing of trump so controlled by the

00:41:43.880 most extreme ideologues on their side that they cannot do it uh democrats are saying this bill

00:41:49.400 creates a slush fund for big businesses and that is not true this bill prohibits funds going to the

00:41:54.520 expansive executive pay and stock buybacks any aid given to corporations also benefits the worker

00:42:00.920 because like i said if there are no companies there are no workers there is no doubt democrats and the

00:42:07.480 left are using this to push their ideology to hurt the economy as much as possible to make trump look like

00:42:14.040 an inept leader to make republicans look heartless to make government programs look like the savior

00:42:20.360 that doesn't mean this virus isn't real or that it's not serious and that we shouldn't take it seriously

00:42:25.320 but it is being weaponized by people who hate donald trump and quite frankly hate the country

00:42:31.800 at our expense especially at the expense of people individuals families who are poor meanwhile meanwhile

00:42:40.760 you've got the media who are carrying water for the communist party of china by calling trump racist

00:42:46.200 for calling it the chinese virus they are so fixated on that obsessed with it uh here's just

00:42:52.520 one of many similar headlines one for the opinion section of the washington post the u.s would have

00:42:59.080 should have led the coronavirus response instead china stepped up written by dennis ross who used to

00:43:06.600 work for obama here's one by the new york times it's coronavirus cases dwindling china turns focus

00:43:13.400 outward beijing is mounting a humanitarian aid blitz and countries struggling with their own outbreaks

00:43:19.240 in doing so it's stepping into a role the west once dominated yeah right yeah the heck right first of all

00:43:26.280 they're not giving supplies to these countries they're selling supplies to places like italy this whole

00:43:32.600 thing is the chinese government's fault they knew about the virus back in november which apparently

00:43:39.160 started in the chinese wet markets which are filled with wild animals and are the origin of now

00:43:44.440 multiple epidemics they suppressed that information the chinese government did then released false

00:43:50.440 information saying the virus wasn't transmissible between humans which was propaganda that was parroted by

00:43:56.120 the world health organization who is in bed with china then when the virus started getting out of

00:44:01.240 control they refused to let health experts from other countries into help started jailing doctors and

00:44:06.920 jailing citizens who were trying to warn the world about the virus and now they're blaming the virus on

00:44:12.040 the united states and they just last week kicked out american journalists trying to report on the virus and yet

00:44:18.280 the american uh the american media is is more than happy to defend them if it means somehow hurting donald trump

00:44:26.440 plus there is this weird deeper deeper deeper stupid world view that a lot of americans on the left have

00:44:33.320 that america is this uniquely bad actor on the world stage and every country is somehow a victim of american

00:44:40.600 imperialism and therefore needs to be coddled and so they have a desire to see every other country do

00:44:46.200 better than the united states i think it's very posh and very sophisticated and intellectual and academic to beat up

00:44:52.360 on the united states and say how awesome other countries are doing even totalitarian governments

00:44:58.600 uh this was the attitude in a lot of ways that obama had and it pervaded one side of the aisle via the media

00:45:05.800 via uh politicians media academia academia and it's tragic it has negative effects on people's lives

00:45:13.800 so this is all a travesty and it's a lot to take in if after this you're like oh my gosh i'm a little bit stressed out

00:45:21.240 go back and listen to monday's episode listen to friday's episode but as you can tell i'm getting

00:45:27.400 frustrated by our lack of any kind of tangible plan i'm getting frustrated by the partisanship i'm getting

00:45:33.560 frustrated by the anti-americanism the pro china ism that we are seeing from one side of the political

00:45:39.560 and ideological aisle it's just insane it's insane all you can do though all you can do is take care of

00:45:47.560 your family is to um as a christian all you can do is pray pray for wisdom pray for humility pray for

00:45:55.320 god to thwart evil and wicked plans uh pray for his gospel to be spread pray for repentance pray for his

00:46:02.840 uh for people to come to know him pray for him to be glorified we have to be obedient we have to be

00:46:07.640 joyful we have to take care of those who are around us and we have to as much as we can hold the people

00:46:13.000 empower accountable and pray to god that they do the right thing i pray to god that they do i really

00:46:17.800 do okay we'll be back here on friday and i will see you guys then

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 25, 2020

Ep 229 ｜ Save Lives ... and Livelihoods

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