Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 236 ｜ Jesus Up, Bernie Out

00:00:00.000 hey guys welcome to relatable i hope everyone has had a good week so far today we're going to talk

00:00:06.620 a little bit about easter since it is good friday we're going to talk about bernie sanders dropping

00:00:12.240 out of the race you might have forgotten that there's a presidential primary going on there is

00:00:16.440 so we'll talk a little bit about that and what that means and then i'll give you a few updates

00:00:20.380 on coronavirus and if we have time i'm going to talk about yet again yet again another piece of

00:00:28.760 really bad but popular theology that's been going around i know i said i was going to talk about

00:00:34.860 toxic mommy culture today but it didn't seem it didn't seem appropriate for good friday so i think

00:00:40.800 i'm going to talk about that on monday and if i don't have time for the bad theology that i want

00:00:45.440 to talk about today i should make that a segment just bad theology um i will talk about that on

00:00:51.400 monday so we'll see about that but that's what we're going to talk about today okay let's talk

00:00:55.840 a little bit about easter so we talked about earlier this week that it's an odd easter we

00:01:02.820 don't have the same traditions that we look forward to every year for those of you who like me you're a

00:01:07.800 new mom so you're excited about your child experiencing this holiday for the first time

00:01:13.900 maybe you were thinking about easter egg hunts and dressing up and going to church and going to

00:01:18.600 lunch with your family and all of the typical celebrations that you've been doing since you

00:01:22.940 were a child you're not going to be able to do that this year and i think it's okay to be sad

00:01:26.900 about that as long as we remember of course that the reason that we celebrate easter is not any of

00:01:32.920 those things those are all secondary tertiary if not way lower than that the reason that we celebrate

00:01:39.120 easter and the reason we have a reason to celebrate this year and every year no matter where we are what

00:01:44.740 we're doing pandemic or not is because jesus christ died and was raised and because of that we have

00:01:50.840 victory over sin and death we are reconciled to god forever those of us who have our faith in him

00:01:57.180 that is our reason to celebrate so it doesn't matter what else we get to do all of the other

00:02:02.940 things yes i think are blessings and wonderful i don't think it's bad to get dressed up and to take

00:02:08.120 pictures and of course to go to church and to get together with your family and the easter egg hunts

00:02:12.460 easter baskets all of that good stuff that's memory making that's joy inducing all of that is well

00:02:19.340 and good but this year as we've also talked about this podcast we're cutting out a lot of the noise

00:02:25.600 that typically surrounds easter and we have really no uh no other option but to celebrate the only reason

00:02:36.080 that exists to celebrate which is jesus christ uh and so that's another silver lining that's another

00:02:43.240 blessing in this whole pandemic is that yes every day it seems like there's noise being cut

00:02:49.320 out i talked about how it's odd walking through life without the background noise that we're

00:02:55.400 typically used to sports whatever else goes on at this time of year that we're used to watching and

00:03:01.400 checking in on and attending and all that stuff we don't have that and so we're forced to focus on

00:03:06.180 the things that matter we're forced to spend time with the people that matter and all of that is

00:03:11.840 wonderful and we can thank god for the opportunity whether that's the reason for all of this or not we can

00:03:17.280 thank god for the opportunity uh to focus on the things that matter and pray that he brings our

00:03:21.680 attention to the things that he wants us to uh he wants us to pay attention to but it's also true

00:03:27.140 specifically for easter that we may have in typical circumstances gotten distracted by all of the very

00:03:35.300 auxiliary all of the very peripheral uh celebrations and traditions that that surround easter and now

00:03:44.000 we are forced to focus on the only thing that really matters the only thing that is ultimately

00:03:50.260 good and right and true and is steadfast and is the same yesterday today and tomorrow that is

00:03:55.900 trustworthy and that's the gospel of jesus christ that does not matter if jesus didn't raise from the

00:04:02.960 dead if jesus didn't rise again then we are fools the bible said there's no there's no reason for us to be

00:04:10.100 talking about jesus at all if he was just a prophet if he was just a guy who died there were a lot of

00:04:15.280 guys who claimed to be important who died the reason why jesus is different from all of them is

00:04:20.720 because he was raised from the dead just like the prophet said he would be just like he said he would

00:04:25.360 be on the third day and because of that we have victory over sin and death that's what easter is and

00:04:31.640 we whether we're in our pajamas or we decide to get dressed up to sit in our living rooms or

00:04:37.280 drive-in congregation whatever you're doing on easter in your social distancing quarantine world

00:04:42.640 that is the reason why we are as joyful as we've ever been as joyful as we've ever been this easter

00:04:49.400 because the gospel is the same no matter what so i'm going to read you a few passages from the bible

00:04:56.480 that i think orient our minds around what matters the only thing that matters when it comes to easter

00:05:02.140 on acts 2 22 through 24 men of israel hear these words jesus of nazareth a man attested to you by god

00:05:10.380 with mighty works and wonders and signs that god did through him in your midst as you yourselves know

00:05:15.980 this jesus delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of god you crucified and killed

00:05:22.840 by the hands of lawless men god raised him up loosing the pangs of death because it was not

00:05:28.440 possible for him to be held by it he is the only being in all of history who was able to loose

00:05:35.360 those pangs of death that is why we worship and because the loosing of those pangs of death

00:05:43.020 also has implications uh implications for us who are believers so first corinthians 15 54 through 58 says

00:05:51.700 this death is swallowed up in victory oh death where is your victory oh death where is your sting

00:05:56.680 the sting of death is sin and the power of sin is the law but thanks be to god who gives us the

00:06:02.760 victory through our lord jesus christ therefore my beloved brothers be steadfast immovable always

00:06:09.220 abounding in the work of the lord knowing that in the lord your labor is not in vain isn't that what

00:06:15.340 we need to hear right now that because of the work of the lord because of the death and the

00:06:19.560 resurrection of jesus christ because of the gospel your labor is not in vain my labor is not in vain

00:06:24.920 that means homeschooling your children is not in vain that means respecting your spouse is not in vain

00:06:30.520 that means reading your bible is not in vain that means even submitting to uh civil authorities right

00:06:37.240 now as frustrating as it can be is not in vain everything you do to abide by the word of the lord

00:06:42.920 to share the gospel to obey god to glorify him is not in vain does it matter what uh how exciting

00:06:51.320 you think it is or how inconvenient it sometimes feels to be in the current situation that we're in

00:06:58.280 everything that you are doing that is according to god's word that glorifies him is not in vain isn't

00:07:05.640 that what we need to hear maybe now more than ever whether you are a nurse whether you're a grocery

00:07:11.160 store clerk whether you're a stay-at-home mom whether you are essential an essential worker a non-essential

00:07:16.200 worker whether you got laid off whether you're a pastor whatever it is you're doing everything that

00:07:22.040 you do for the glory of the lord is not in vain because of the death and the resurrection of jesus

00:07:28.520 christ and that is so encouraging and then we've got this passage in romans 8 if you want to be reminded

00:07:34.920 of what our hope is as christians of why easter is important go read you romans 8 you can read all of

00:07:40.680 romans of course it's a great book romans 8 is a wonderful chapter that if you are following me

00:07:46.840 on social media you know that i and a lot of other people that follow me are memorizing we're doing about

00:07:52.600 a verse a day a little more than that towards the end and we're through verse 10 right now and i want

00:07:59.640 to read you not 1 through 10 but a few other verses it is romans 8 31 through 39 that i want to read

00:08:09.640 you that reminds us of our resurrection hope what then shall we say to these things if god is for us

00:08:15.960 who can be against us he who did not spare his own son but gave him up for us all how will he not also

00:08:22.040 with him graciously give us all things who shall bring any charge against god's elect it is god who

00:08:29.160 justifies who is to condemn christ to jesus is the one who died more than that who was raised who is at

00:08:35.240 the right hand of god who indeed is interceding for us who shall separate us from the love of christ

00:08:41.000 shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword as it is

00:08:47.080 written for your sake we are being killed all the day long we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered

00:08:52.680 no in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us for i am sure that neither

00:08:57.880 death nor life nor angels nor rulers nor things present nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth

00:09:03.320 nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of god in christ jesus

00:09:09.560 our lord praise god for that there's so much i want to talk about in these passages because the through

00:09:15.720 line and i'm laughing or i'm smiling right now because i i'll tell you in a second why but the

00:09:23.080 through line in all of these passages is the sovereignty of god the purposefulness of god that god

00:09:29.960 doesn't do anything arbitrarily he doesn't sit back and just say well let's see what's going to happen

00:09:35.320 he does everything with purpose he does everything with foreknowledge he does everything with specificity

00:09:40.920 there's nothing that goes on that he doesn't know about and that he does it in some way will that

00:09:47.400 doesn't mean that everything that we do makes him happy of course he has a moral will as is outlined in

00:09:53.240 the bible there's real evil and real good and he determines what that is um and everyone is

00:10:00.200 responsible for their actions people are responsible for their evil you can read this seeming quandary

00:10:06.760 in romans 9 and you can see what the reconciliation for that is but god is absolutely sovereign there is

00:10:13.320 nothing that can be done outside of his will remember if not even a sparrow can fall out of the sky

00:10:19.800 apart from god's will there is nothing in all of creation and all of history and all of eternity

00:10:25.800 that can happen apart from god's will if this god who romans 8 said did not spare his own son but gave

00:10:32.520 him up for us all if he was sovereign even over that what seemed at the at the time as a tragedy we

00:10:39.880 can be sure that he is sovereign over all things now the reason why i started to smirk just a little

00:10:45.160 bit when i said the through line and all those passages is because i read what i just thought was

00:10:50.440 i don't know how else to say it but it was cute it was sweet a review that someone laughed on the apple

00:10:56.520 podcast app that said if there's one thing i learned from this podcast it's that not even a bird falls out

00:11:01.320 of the sky apart from the father's will because i'm pretty sure ali says that on every episode and i

00:11:06.200 loved that review because it's true the sovereignty of god is uh obviously well it's not obvious to a

00:11:14.040 lot of people but it is such an important part of theology it is really the bedrock of good theology

00:11:20.840 and there's so much pervasive popular bad theology out there that wants nothing to do with the sovereignty

00:11:26.920 of god that says oh bad things aren't god's fault okay was jesus's death not god's fault did god not author

00:11:33.800 that because that was seen as a bad thing then three days later not so much two thousand years not so

00:11:39.480 much um things that seem bad yes god is still in control of them that doesn't mean that bad things

00:11:49.080 please him certainly evil doesn't please him he punishes evil he will punish evil once and for all he

00:11:56.040 will rule in perfect peace satan will be bound uh forever but is he sovereign still over all of it

00:12:03.080 absolutely and that is including salvation we can read romans 9 and you can get into all the

00:12:09.640 complexities of that if you would like now speaking of romans 8 this wonderful passage that i encourage

00:12:16.440 you to read over the next few days as you ask god to prepare your heart and your mind to worship him

00:12:22.360 over easter those of you who are memorizing this with me like i said we're on verse 10 but today as i'm

00:12:29.480 recording this is the 9th i don't have verses 9 and 10 memorized yet one of you asked me if i could

00:12:35.400 recite it on every episode so you guys can recite it with me i will try i get a little nervous when

00:12:41.480 i'm reciting it in this although i do i do it on instagram stories so i'm not really sure why i get

00:12:45.960 nervous but i might have to look down a little bit i'll say it nevertheless so that you guys can say it

00:12:52.520 with me and if you have it if you haven't memorized roman date like if you're behind and you still

00:12:57.400 want to do it you can either catch up or you can go at your own pace and you can end 10 days after

00:13:02.280 us i really encourage you to memorize this the reason why i did it is because john piper recommended

00:13:07.400 it on his podcast ask pastor john thought it was a good idea and a lot of you have been doing it and

00:13:12.600 you've been sharing with me on instagram and you're doing an excellent job so here we are

00:13:17.640 verses 1 through 10 like i said i don't know 9 and 10 there is therefore now no condemnation for

00:13:22.760 those who are in christ jesus for the law of the spirit of life has set you free in christ jesus

00:13:27.240 from the law of sin and death for god has done with the law weakened by the flesh could not do by sending

00:13:32.520 his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin he condemned sin in the flesh in order that

00:13:37.960 the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who walk not according to the

00:13:42.440 flesh but according to the spirit for those who live according to the flesh to their mind on the

00:13:47.320 things of the flesh but those who live according to the spirit set their minds on the things

00:13:51.320 of the spirit for to set the mind on the flesh is death but to set the mind on the spirit is life

00:13:55.640 and peace for the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to god for it does not submit to god's law

00:14:01.000 indeed it cannot those who are in the flesh cannot please god you however are not in the flesh but in

00:14:06.600 the spirit if in fact the spirit of god dwells in you anyone who does not have the spirit of god

00:14:12.040 a spirit of christ does not belong to him but if christ is in you although the body is dead because

00:14:17.400 of sin the spirit of life uh the spirit is life because of righteousness that is romans 8 1 through

00:14:23.480 10 and if you have memorized that good heckin job you guys and if you're a couple days behind you can

00:14:29.720 get caught up use the weekend to get caught up you can do it i promise you can do it write it out

00:14:35.000 recite it over and over again listen to it a million times however your brain logs in information

00:14:42.120 to memorize it that's what you got to do i promise you can do it you guys are doing a great job keep

00:14:47.160 sharing with me on social media okay moving on so jesus up raised from the dead hallelujah got a reason

00:14:54.680 to celebrate bernie out bernie is out of the presidential primary now i don't know if you forgot that there's

00:15:01.160 a presidential primary happening there is there was now we have a presumptive nominee we're pretty sure

00:15:10.360 that joe biden is going to be a nominee the problem is guys and i again i'm not trying to be rude i'm

00:15:17.560 not trying to be rude i'm being very objective about this joe biden might have a lot of decent

00:15:23.720 qualities okay he might have a lot of decent qualities and back in his heyday he might like if this

00:15:30.120 were joe biden 30 years ago but going against donald trump in 2020 we might have a real contender

00:15:38.200 for the democratic nominee and hey we still might have a real contender because there are a lot of

00:15:42.440 people who really hate donald trump but the joe biden today and i don't mean to make light of this okay

00:15:49.320 he cannot talk okay that's our problem he cannot talk i don't know if you've seen his messages that

00:15:56.360 have been going out in light of all of this and god bless him i think he means well or his interviews

00:16:02.120 that he's been doing or the video that he did with his wife where he asked his wife am i supposed to

00:16:07.320 say something right now i mean there's just a lot of reason to wonder if he is fully there there have

00:16:14.360 been quite a few takedowns of joe biden in the mainstream media and on twitter and i won't play those for

00:16:22.360 you today because that's not the vibe that i'm going for right now but i'm being in all honesty

00:16:27.800 okay i'm not sure if cognitively he has sufficient capability to not not just run for president but

00:16:39.560 to actually be the president of the united states now if he were the president of the united states

00:16:44.280 it would be weakened at bernie's democrats would be propping him up wouldn't matter if he were alive

00:16:48.600 or dead he would just kind of be the vessel through which democrats accomplish their radical agenda

00:16:54.040 because he doesn't have a whole lot of ideas we're talking about biden here um i get their names

00:17:00.040 confused sometimes we're talking about biden he doesn't have a whole lot of ideas and he's not very

00:17:05.160 strong on anything like he will he is like a just a willow in the wind he is just waving back and

00:17:14.280 forth depending on whichever way the wind blows him and the wind is typically the outrage mob in

00:17:19.960 our little analogy here and he is willing to say oh i support the height amendment no i don't support

00:17:26.200 the height amendment oh i'm for deporting illegal immigrants like we did when i was the vp no i'm not 0.97

00:17:31.480 i'm not for that oh i'm i'm not for medicare for all but i am kind of for medicare for all and bernie

00:17:37.320 bros uh i don't need your support actually i do need your support so he's gone back and forth on a

00:17:42.280 lot of things and we're not totally sure if he has any principles left anymore any ideas or even

00:17:48.280 the function in his brain to come up with any kind of innovative ideas i do think that you know he

00:17:56.440 means well i think that he probably in his heart of hearts wants the best for the country i think that

00:18:02.200 there are a lot of people that would vote for him just as an alternative to donald trump he's gonna

00:18:07.160 have a hard time getting the bernie supporters because the bernie supporters are part of an 1.00

00:18:13.560 ideological movement so there is a phrase on the left that's vote blue no matter who because they

00:18:19.800 hate donald trump they're gonna vote for a democrat no matter what and hey there are a lot of people on

00:18:23.560 the right that would vote red no matter what too there's not as catchy of a of a rhyme there but

00:18:28.840 they will vote red no matter what because they're just anti-democrat there are a lot of people on the left

00:18:34.920 like that too so there are little hashtags vote blue no matter who all of those people are obviously

00:18:39.560 going to vote for joe biden but there are people that supported bernie sanders who are absolutely

00:18:45.880 devastated who still thought that there was a narrow path to the nomination that there was a possibility

00:18:51.000 that bernie sanders would become president bernie sanders got screwed in some ways by the 0.99

00:18:56.440 establishment but really he just didn't have the electability factor he knows that now there just

00:19:01.240 aren't enough people in the country who are willing to vote for a socialist and he is not quite

00:19:06.600 likable enough he's just not quite appealing enough especially to to women he's just very 0.92

00:19:12.040 off-putting so is trump in a lot of ways but so is bernie sanders on the other side and so

00:19:17.240 he just didn't do himself any favors with his ideology or or with his mannerisms and personality but

00:19:22.360 there are people who also say not any i'm not going to vote vote blue no matter who but they say

00:19:30.440 not any blue will do so they have another little phrase i don't think those people are going to vote

00:19:35.320 for donald trump i think they could vote for an independent they could write in bernie sanders or

00:19:40.520 they're just not going to vote at all and i actually think that that is probably the most likely scenario

00:19:45.560 that all of these people who absolutely love bernie sanders and who don't like joe biden who see joe

00:19:50.760 biden and nancy pelosi and these establishment democrats as part of the problem that they are not going to

00:19:57.960 vote for joe biden and they wouldn't vote for any establishment candidate because a lot of these

00:20:02.200 people that support bernie sanders do not consider themselves democrats because remember bernie sanders

00:20:07.800 is not a democrat he is uh he's he's an independent and he's always been an independent now obviously

00:20:14.280 he's on the left side of the aisle and he's run for the democratic nomination twice now but he is not

00:20:19.560 a registered democrat and a lot of the people who support him are not registered democrats they're

00:20:23.800 socialists they are for his ideas bernie sanders with all of his flaws with all of his terrible

00:20:30.200 terrible ideas and i just assume terrible hygiene as well because he was kicked out of a commune a while

00:20:36.760 ago uh i he at least is consistent like he at least at the very now he's been consistently wrong

00:20:46.280 consistently dumb in his ideas but he has been consistent he has been honest and straightforward

00:20:52.440 in a lot of ways now he has changed his mind on things like immigration he really used to be

00:20:57.560 more of a nationalist than he is now he's moved even further to the left on that stuff but on the

00:21:03.800 communism and on the social issues he has remained about the same and there are a lot of people

00:21:09.720 especially a lot of young people that are just fed up with washington that really like him of course

00:21:14.680 they like the idea of everyone getting quote free stuff from the government they think that sounds good

00:21:21.480 he is really good at making a moral argument and i think that appeals to a lot of people especially

00:21:28.600 a lot of people that don't have a biblical foundation at all and don't understand quite

00:21:34.440 honestly the evils of bureaucracy and big government it sounds good to say the government should be taking

00:21:41.240 care of people what's wrong with that but if this pandemic is any indication uh the government is

00:21:47.720 really inefficient and ineffective and they think that if we just switch presidents if we just have

00:21:53.000 a benevolent dictator like bernie sanders the people who support him think that things will be better

00:21:58.200 that they'll be efficient but the fact of the matter is is that bernie sanders has never proven

00:22:02.760 whatsoever that he has any good leadership skills at all he just does this pie in the sky stuff he just

00:22:10.120 puts out these ideas that kind of sound good and kind of sound appealing to people who aren't just

00:22:13.800 thinking very hard about them and he yells and he points his finger and he gets very angry and that

00:22:19.560 riles people up and gets people outraged and gets people to support him but he's never actually proven

00:22:24.600 that he can lead anything that he can organize anything that he can produce any sort of formidable

00:22:30.440 outcome and so he would be a terrible president the whole thing that we're going through right now would

00:22:35.480 i guarantee you would be a thousand times worse under a bernie sanders presidency as it is under a trump

00:22:41.640 presidency so bernie sanders is out and he should have gotten out earlier because voters have still

00:22:49.960 been voting in primaries around the country and in the midst of a pandemic and he could have said you

00:22:56.440 know i'm dropping out and maybe those people wouldn't have gone out to vote for him in the primary if that

00:23:01.480 were the case but he just dropped out this week he said sayonara and he said you know he's going to do

00:23:07.400 whatever he can to get biden to be nominated and so he obviously has a goal of defeating trump no

00:23:15.560 matter what even if biden represents the establishment that he doesn't like we'll see what's going to

00:23:21.080 happen i don't know why i just don't feel like biden's actually going to be the nominee i don't know who

00:23:26.280 would be the nominee but it's hard for me to believe that democrats are going to allow that to happen i just

00:23:32.520 don't i there's no way that you can watch the guy in an interview and say yeah he can make it against

00:23:38.040 trump i mean it's going to be an absolute disaster area for the for the debates now will it be entertaining

00:23:45.160 yes it's also it's a question of what's going to happen in november are we going to be able to go out

00:23:52.440 and vote like usual now you've probably heard that democrats are pushing uh they're pushing mail-in ballots

00:24:00.520 ballots that everyone can uh that everyone can vote just at home and they can send it in and then

00:24:07.400 we don't have to worry about a pandemic and all of that of course the problem is voter fraud now there

00:24:13.320 are quite a few states that already have the option of mailing in your ballot but we would have to see

00:24:21.560 some kind of system that prevents fraud now democrats are very loosey-goosey when it comes to the

00:24:28.440 integrity of elections believe it or not because they've been talking about russian collusion for

00:24:32.680 the past three years but they are they're very sketchy about the integrity of elections because

00:24:37.320 they don't think that you should have to present any kind of valid id in order to vote even though

00:24:41.720 you have to present valid id to do a lot of things that are much less consequential than voting

00:24:48.120 they think that that's racist that that is discriminatory towards poor people but anyone can get

00:24:56.280 some kind of id doesn't have to be a driver's license but they think that that should not be

00:25:00.360 necessary of course we've heard democrats say that they think illegal immigrants should vote

00:25:05.320 aoc believes that stacy abrams believes that they think citizenship is basically moot that you should

00:25:10.760 just be basically you should enjoy all of the rights and privileges of being a citizen without

00:25:16.680 actually going through the citizenship process and they would include voting in that of course

00:25:21.160 so uh that's something that's happening right now it'll be interesting to see how this plays out

00:25:28.360 like i said on wednesday i think it's going to be really difficult if the economy does bounce back

00:25:33.720 things get better and we go back to some kind of sense of normalcy over the summer or even in the early

00:25:39.160 fall then that is going to be trump's legacy he got us through the greatest crisis in american history

00:25:46.360 elite well in our lifetimes at the very least and that's going to be very hard to beat and i think

00:25:52.360 the democrats know that now if we are still sluggish if things are just still dragging come september

00:25:59.560 october november it's going to be very difficult for him to win so we'll see what the strategy is for

00:26:05.160 democrats besides the mail-in ballot thing and besides just dragging this out as long as possible so trump

00:26:11.080 looks bad and writing terrible news stories about him we'll see what happens it's a very consequential

00:26:18.120 a very important a very interesting year a very historic year uh there are some other things going

00:26:23.640 on around the country that i just wanted to just wanted to point out so i don't know how many of you

00:26:30.040 are doing like drive-in services for your church i think that's a really cool idea everyone stays in their

00:26:35.160 car you could turn on uh you can turn the dial on the radio you go to a particular radio station that

00:26:42.120 is broadcasting the pastor and you listen to your pastor in i guess like the same parking lot as

00:26:49.720 everyone else in your church but you're not actually with them well unfortunately in nevada they have

00:26:56.200 dis or nevada someone corrected me one time nevada i think is correct um in nevada the governor

00:27:02.760 has said well sorry that's illegal you can't do that so tell me the thought process behind that

00:27:08.920 because i'm just a little bit confused there are other people who have been arrested for not violating

00:27:14.280 any kind of social distancing policies that i can think of there was a dad that got arrested in front

00:27:20.520 of his six-year-old daughter in colorado for playing uh like baseball at a park with her completely

00:27:27.800 by themselves not around anyone and the police came and arrested him in front of his daughter

00:27:33.960 and he made a really good point in an interview he said they were the ones that were violating

00:27:38.440 social distancing rules there were multiple police officers they didn't have masks on they didn't have

00:27:42.680 gloves on put me in a car like that's a lot more risk than them playing by themselves in a field

00:27:48.840 but we've got a lot of petty people out there that are on power trips right now that are making

00:27:53.880 policies that are more about control than public health not all these policies but some of them

00:27:58.680 and one of them i think is this policy in nevada of of congregations not being able to sit

00:28:05.560 in a parking lot in all of their separate cars and listen to their pastor why who are they infecting

00:28:11.880 that way it's crazy to me that people are being controlled even in their own cars even in ways that

00:28:17.720 obviously have nothing to do whatsoever with the spread of the coronavirus

00:28:22.920 so someone's gonna have to riddle me that i just don't really understand how it's happening

00:28:26.680 another thing another policy that i don't like there are policies like this going they're going

00:28:32.040 on all across the country which is honestly very frightening but in roanoke virginia there is a

00:28:36.920 children's hospital there that is now not allowing uh parents to be with their children in the NICU for

00:28:42.520 the foreseeable future look i understand this is not doctors and nurses fault so don't think that i

00:28:48.440 am uh hating on doctors and nurses who have to make very hard decisions and i know the doctors

00:28:53.640 and nurses in the NICU are doing the absolute best that they possibly can and they just have

00:28:57.720 to roll with the decisions that the hospital makes totally understand that and this is a hard decision

00:29:02.600 obviously you don't want someone with coronavirus to come into the NICU and to get either the nurses

00:29:08.200 and the doctors sick or much more importantly to get these uh sickly in some ways and in a lot of ways

00:29:14.440 are premature uh babies sick who are already fragile who already have limited uh immune system

00:29:22.120 capacity who are already fighting multiple things i totally understand that but there have to be

00:29:28.680 some ways to let a parent to let a mom be able to uh spend time with her baby in the NICU

00:29:38.280 i cannot even imagine you guys any of you moms who and i'm specifically talking to moms who have

00:29:44.760 given birth because there's no way even if you're a dad that you can understand what it feels like

00:29:49.800 after you give birth just the emotional tidal wave that hits you yes it does hit dads but it's not the

00:29:55.160 same just the hormones and all of the stuff that comes with giving birth especially if you had any sort

00:30:01.480 of traumatic birth or your child is premature or your child is sick whatever it is it's it's even

00:30:08.200 exacerbated these feelings of protectiveness and just wanting to hold your baby and protect your baby

00:30:13.720 and feed your baby and all of these things i mean even if your birth goes fine and you get to hold

00:30:18.520 your baby right away and everything is perfect you still are an emotional mess in a lot of ways you're

00:30:24.280 still worried and anxious and you can't sleep because you're watching your baby breathe

00:30:28.120 times that by a thousand and that's what a parent i imagine feels when their baby is in the NICU

00:30:34.760 and you are up from what i've heard from friends who have had babies in the NICU you are up constantly

00:30:40.120 uh trying to be at the hospital for as long as you possibly can to be with your baby to do skin to skin

00:30:46.840 i mean the scientific benefits of skin to skin are incredible there they are numerous the first few

00:30:54.280 hours and days and weeks and months of a baby's life are so important and so formative and it is

00:31:01.640 crucial for the parents for the mom especially to be able to be there i mean you see better outcomes in

00:31:08.520 kids getting out of the NICU faster the more time they're able to spend with their parents they heal

00:31:13.080 better they are they grow more quickly they gain weight more quickly all of that stuff and i cannot

00:31:19.240 imagine the emotional emotional and physical and spiritual toll this is taking on the parents

00:31:25.960 and on the children for them to be separated there has to be some kind of policy that can be instilled

00:31:31.560 here in order to allow parents to see their kids in the NICU can you do rapid testing can you do

00:31:39.000 temperature testing can you give them some ppe some masks some gloves i understand you don't want to run

00:31:44.520 through all that stuff but it seems like this is a relatively small group of people that desperately

00:31:50.520 need to be there for their children for their own sanity for the sake of bonding for the even physical

00:31:57.800 health of their babies i mean guys if this were to happen to me i am surprised there aren't more moms out 0.84

00:32:08.760 there breaking down walls maybe there are i mean you would have to strap me down and wheel me out of

00:32:18.600 the hospital before i left my baby in the NICU and i know that i can get a witness out there i know that

00:32:25.880 there are a lot of women out there who are like yeah me too if you tried to separate me from my child 1.00

00:32:33.320 in the hospital you did not allow me to see my child in the NICU i mean honestly you would have

00:32:40.600 to tranquilize me before i walked out of there without my baby this is a terrible policy it's a

00:32:45.800 terrible policy and there are i understand there are a lot of different things to think about there

00:32:50.520 not the doctors and nurses fault i get that there needs to be some kind of protection safety measures

00:32:58.280 that are implemented in order to protect the parents and protect the baby while still allowing

00:33:05.240 them to be together it doesn't make any sense it's probably more risky for those doctors and nurses

00:33:12.360 who are in the NICU to be around the babies than it is for the parents because the doctors and nurses

00:33:17.080 have to go home and to be around their families too they're probably much more susceptible to getting

00:33:22.760 the coronavirus being at the hospital all day than these parents are these poor parents are probably

00:33:27.000 going home sitting by themselves watching their hands a million times that are probably not around

00:33:31.800 anyone else like they're probably not going to get coronavirus and they're probably not going to pass

00:33:36.680 it on to their babies and these doctors and nurses might so again it doesn't make any sense it does not

00:33:41.720 make any sense come up with better policies people there are so many policies across the country right

00:33:46.760 now that are so draconian so much seemingly about just power and control rather than about public health

00:33:53.320 then you can't blame people when they take a step back and they say hang on hang on what's going on

00:33:58.440 here is this worth it especially since we continue to see the models change models we heard first 2.2

00:34:05.320 million people are going to die in this country then we heard oh that's probably 1 million people okay

00:34:09.800 it's probably 200 000 actually it's probably 100 000 latest estimate 60 000 and we heard a couple

00:34:15.240 weeks ago oh by next week all of the hospitals are going to be completely overwhelmed and they're just

00:34:20.360 going to be overflowing with people and we're going to run out of all of the equipment and the

00:34:23.800 ventilators that we need and people are going to die because our health system is it's going to be

00:34:28.600 overwhelmed it's not going to be able to handle it okay a week went by yes there are some hospitals

00:34:33.640 especially in new york that are at capacity right now but according to governor cuomo there has not

00:34:39.320 been a shortage of anything so far and we're not at capacity in fact a lot of hospitals actually have a

00:34:46.520 lot less business than usual because elective surgeries have been canceled and people aren't

00:34:50.200 going into the emergency room for petty things like they used to before and so it hasn't panned

00:34:55.640 out quite yet and i hope it doesn't i hope it flatlines like i hope it plateaus that would be awesome and

00:35:00.760 wonderful i don't know it could get a lot worse like we could peak and we could you know there could

00:35:05.800 be thousands of more cases next week i hope that's not the case but it's not crazy for people to

00:35:12.040 wonder hang on did we take the right measures here was this really effective because we've got

00:35:18.360 millions of people who lost their jobs millions of people who are stuck in their homes millions of

00:35:22.440 people who are suffering from depression can't get the help that they need don't have the connection

00:35:25.960 that they need people are getting arrested for playing baseball in a park by themselves with their

00:35:31.400 daughter people are not able to see their child in the NICU people are getting stopped at random stop

00:35:37.960 signs and crosswalks for driving around by themselves it's okay for people to wonder is this all worth it

00:35:46.280 is it helping i think everyone wants to save as many lives as possible no one wants to get coronavirus

00:35:50.920 no one wants anyone else to get coronavirus and i think we all want to do everything we can to

00:35:54.840 prevent that from happening as much as as is within our power but i think it's okay for us to also

00:36:00.920 wonder is this are we doing the right things it's like suspending all of our civil liberties a lot of our

00:36:07.160 civil liberties necessary for all of this is it helpful is it beneficial for us to close down

00:36:13.800 all the small businesses i just don't know i think i think it's a good question to ask um okay that's

00:36:20.200 all i have time for today i will talk about the bad theology on monday it'll be a good episode but i

00:36:26.360 hope you guys enjoyed this i hope that you guys have a wonderful weekend a wonderful easter and i will see

00:36:31.160 you back here on monday

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 10, 2020

Ep 236 ｜ Jesus Up, Bernie Out

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