Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 245

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Friday. I hope everyone has had a good week. You know,

00:00:06.540 probably for a lot of you, hasn't been a good week because I'm just feeling like there is a

00:00:11.400 shift in the spirit of the American people right now and people are at their breaking point with

00:00:15.380 this quarantine thing. People are just getting restless. Yes, you have a lot of panic still out

00:00:20.260 there. You've got a lot of fear. You've got a lot of people that are saying, I'm just going to stay

00:00:23.760 locked down forever. But I would say for the majority of people, even people in New York and

00:00:28.600 New York City, even people in California, where there happens to be a pretty high number of cases,

00:00:34.200 they are saying, you know what, I've got to get out. Like, especially if you've got little kids,

00:00:38.660 you've got to be able to go to the park. You've got to be able to go do some sort of recreation.

00:00:43.220 I feel like people are at their breaking point. So if you're at your breaking point and you're not

00:00:48.280 in a state that is loosening restrictions. So I think it's Texas, Florida, South Dakota,

00:00:53.180 Georgia, maybe Colorado. There are probably some other states in there too. If you're not in one

00:00:56.920 of those states and you're in one of those states where government officials are cracking down

00:01:00.760 and people are literally getting arrested for like playing in the park the wrong way,

00:01:05.960 then you maybe didn't have a good week. And I just want you to know that I am praying for you. So I

00:01:11.280 have a prayer list that, uh, or a prayer schedule that I posted on Instagram a few times. It's like

00:01:18.360 my quarantine prayer schedule. And every morning at breakfast, I read a Bible story to our baby.

00:01:25.540 And then we pray. She is only 10 months old. So I can't say that she's contributing to the prayer

00:01:30.380 very much, but we pray for whatever is on the quarantine schedule for prayer that day. And so

00:01:35.600 we've got nurses, we've got government leaders, we've got the persecuted and the universal church.

00:01:39.820 We've got the people who don't know Jesus. We've got the people, we've got people in our family,

00:01:44.740 friends and things like that. So each day is something different. Pray for yourself,

00:01:48.800 that God would sanctify you and draw you close during this time. But I think I'm going to add

00:01:52.300 to my quarantine schedule, people who have reached their stinking limit when it comes to this

00:01:58.380 quarantine, because it's serious, like the effects of feeling cooped up and feeling isolated and feeling

00:02:05.080 trapped are serious. Psychologically, they're serious financially, uh, for unfortunately, a lot

00:02:11.420 of cheer, uh, children, they are serious physically as well. We have seen study after study one, uh, from

00:02:17.640 North Texas. I think it was CBS that reported this, that child abuse rates are skyrocketing

00:02:23.720 right now because unfortunately frustrated parents, they are home more with their kids. Their kids are

00:02:30.400 probably demanding a lot right now. They're probably drinking more. People keep joking about how

00:02:35.820 everyone's trying to drink their way through quarantine for most people. Yeah, that's funny and

00:02:40.140 it's no big deal. But for a lot of people who are drinking more, the consequences of that are

00:02:44.340 dire. And these kids are getting the, uh, short end of the stick. When it comes to that, they are

00:02:50.760 getting the brunt of that kind of behavior and irresponsibility and feelings of feelings of parents

00:02:56.620 being cooped up, maybe not having the same financial resources they had having to learn how to

00:03:02.320 homeschool. I think the vast majority of parents are handling that really well, but some parents

00:03:07.140 aren't. And so unfortunately, some kids, a lot of kids I'm sure are getting emotionally abused,

00:03:12.640 physically abused, not to mention this entire toxic mommy culture online, which I did a podcast episode

00:03:18.640 on titled toxic, toxic mommy culture that glorifies really hating your kids and viewing your kids as

00:03:26.320 brats and burdens. If you feel defensive when I say that, or if you have contention with that,

00:03:30.580 please go listen to the episode first titled toxic mommy culture. Um, so unfortunately, like I said,

00:03:37.920 there are, um, there are repercussions to all of this, especially for the most vulnerable,

00:03:43.100 especially for children. And as other people have pointed out, Bethany Mandel on Twitter pointed this

00:03:48.960 out a while ago, and I thought this was a really good point. Um, she said that we haven't thought

00:03:54.940 about, we haven't talked about the consequences of all this stuff for kids. Like we talk about how hard

00:03:59.460 this is as a parent to homeschool. I know that's true for a lot of you, how hard it is to be cooped up

00:04:04.820 or to have to work from home. And of course, all those things are hard. It's hard to lose your job.

00:04:09.000 All of those things are very difficult and no one is discounting any of that. However, it's also

00:04:14.700 difficult for kids. They don't understand any of this stuff. They're not getting to play with their

00:04:18.920 friends. They're not getting to, um, go to school. They probably, honestly, for most of you homeschooling

00:04:25.920 and complaining about homeschooling, which I'm not saying it's not hard. I don't have school age kids.

00:04:29.760 So I know that that has to be really difficult, but like your kids probably don't want you to be

00:04:37.380 their teacher either. Like they probably miss their teacher. They probably miss the classroom.

00:04:41.300 If you're not a homeschool teacher, or if you're not homeschooling your kids, they probably miss

00:04:46.060 their, you know, normal recreation and routine and things like that. Like this is also really hard

00:04:52.380 for children, not just on an abuse level, but also on an adjustment level. Like think about,

00:04:56.940 and we're, I know this isn't exactly what we're going to talk about today or not was, uh, I was

00:05:04.520 planning on talking about today and we will get to the out of shadows stuff. I promise. However,

00:05:09.880 I want to get to this stuff first and then we'll finish the episode with that. And I'll give you a

00:05:14.760 pretty thorough explanation of how I feel about the out of shadows documentary, but there are

00:05:20.840 repercussions, uh, for these kids who don't understand what's going on, especially

00:05:26.740 kids with special needs. So if you have ever been around a child with autism, uh, he, or really any

00:05:34.400 special need, but especially with autism, all children, yes, flourish in some kind of routine,

00:05:40.200 but it can be more flexible. The older children get, they're able to go with the flow. They're able

00:05:45.420 to adjust. Well, that's not true for a lot of people who are on the autism spectrum. They have to have

00:05:50.840 things, uh, be the same for them to be comfortable for them to function. Now it depends on how high

00:05:56.240 functioning a person with autism is. If you're on the higher end of the spectrum, then you can kind

00:06:02.040 of maybe roll with the punches. But if you are more high needs as a person with autism, it is very

00:06:09.380 difficult to go out of your routine, to have, uh, different people around you to even not, I don't

00:06:15.540 know, eat the same food. It just kind of depends, I guess, on what your everyday schedule was before

00:06:19.820 quarantine. But think about those parents of the people with special needs who don't have the same

00:06:24.240 help, who don't have the same access to treatments, who maybe lost their jobs. And it's just a whole

00:06:29.380 other level of financial responsibility when you have kids with special needs. Think about those kids.

00:06:34.080 Think about, uh, those parents. Think about how burdensome this lockdown really is to so many people,

00:06:39.900 people who can't get their same cancer treatments. Thankfully, I know a lot of people who have cancer

00:06:45.080 who are able to get their cancer treatments right now, and that's great. But some people, uh,

00:06:49.880 reportedly are not able to do that. Other kinds of surgeries that maybe your state government sees

00:06:55.480 as elective, but is actually very necessary for your, uh, for your health. There are all kinds

00:07:02.500 of repercussions and consequences to this that, um, unfortunately it seems like a lot of government

00:07:08.900 leaders are, if they are mentally taking them into account, they are not willing to actually act

00:07:16.080 on it because they are afraid of the media blowback. And there was this very stupid conversation,

00:07:21.420 a very stupid conversation on Twitter. And a lot of conversations on Twitter are very, very stupid,

00:07:28.600 but it started with, uh, the name Ben Shapiro was trending. And I am sure that all of you know who

00:07:37.500 Ben Shapiro is. So I don't think I need to explain that he was on Dave Rubin's show and he was making

00:07:42.960 a comment that, um, it's different when an 81 year old person dies than a 20 year old. I don't know

00:07:50.820 the exact wording that he used, but of course, this is true. This doesn't mean that the 81 year

00:07:58.720 old's life is less valuable than the 20 year old. It just means that because this is a sickness,

00:08:06.680 because this is a virus that is mostly affecting older people, we perceive it differently. We just do.

00:08:12.720 We perceive it differently than if it was killing all five-year-olds or all 15 year olds or all 20

00:08:18.860 year olds. And then this stupid bad faith argument broke out about how not just Ben Shapiro, but all

00:08:26.460 conservatives are willing to sacrifice the elderly in order to help the economy, which they just demean as

00:08:36.740 just wanting to help our 401k or just to fatten up our wallet as if the economy doesn't affect poor

00:08:42.660 people, as if the economy doesn't, uh, help people provide for their families and put food on their

00:08:48.620 table, as if the economy doesn't affect all of these very real needs for a lot of people far beyond

00:08:55.040 people's 401k. And it's so stupid. There was an in bad faith conversation about sacrificing older

00:09:03.040 people on behalf of the economy when that is not what Ben Shapiro was saying. That is not

00:09:08.240 what anyone, uh, believes that I know. Here's the bottom line is that all lives are equally valuable

00:09:15.840 as Christians. We know that all people are made in the image of God, but we are always in every

00:09:21.680 decision we make yes in public policy, but in every decision we make in our everyday lives,

00:09:26.180 we are assessing risk versus reward. Like we are looking at probabilities and everything we do,

00:09:31.960 we do it subconsciously. Like we know that it's dangerous to drive. We know that it's more dangerous

00:09:38.040 technically to drive than it is to fly. Like you are more likely to get in a car crash than you are

00:09:43.660 in a plane crash. And yet sometimes we decide that we are going to drive to our vacation spot because

00:09:51.660 it's cheaper because we don't want to deal with, you know, carrying on luggage or you're traveling

00:09:57.320 with a bunch of kids. And so you don't want to worry about that. And so you are assessing the risk.

00:10:03.080 You are assessing the benefits. That's what we do in everyday life. And that's unfortunately,

00:10:09.040 very unfortunately, the responsibility that a lot of government leaders have right now is that they

00:10:14.620 are looking at the risks of the lockdown and the rewards of opening back up the economy. And they are

00:10:20.640 trying to figure out what the balance is and what is best for their area. One of the risks is that,

00:10:27.900 yes, once you open things back up, people are going to interact. Hopefully people will be

00:10:32.840 responsible. Hopefully people will socially distance and all of that good stuff, but people are going to

00:10:39.300 get sick. I mean, we just pass viruses to each other. We pass germs to each other. That's just going

00:10:46.180 to happen. And so the infection rate is going to go up. That means inevitably that the death rate will

00:10:51.700 go up. And very tragically and very unfortunately, the most vulnerable to this virus, elderly people

00:10:59.800 may be more affected by this. Now, hopefully not because I still think that even if everything else

00:11:07.620 opens back up, that the elderly should stay inside. I don't know until when. I don't know like

00:11:13.520 the magic day or the magic qualification for when they should, uh, for, you know, when elderly people

00:11:20.880 can go back to living life as normal. I mean, ultimately it is their choice. That's the decision

00:11:26.340 that they make. Um, but that is a risk, but there are also risks to children, to people with special

00:11:34.860 needs, to people with mental health issues, to people with cancer, to people who have to access all of

00:11:41.160 the services that have been shut down because of this lockdown. So there are risks to staying shut

00:11:46.860 down. There are risks to opening back up to vulnerable communities. So on both sides of the

00:11:52.920 equation, you've got vulnerable communities that are at risk. Government leaders have a very tough

00:11:58.820 decision right now in weighing the risk and reward of each situation. That is the point of all of this.

00:12:05.440 So that is not to say there were even conservatives on Twitter who were firing back to this saying,

00:12:12.900 uh, the lives of the elderly matter. Of course they do. Of course they do. No one is saying that the

00:12:19.340 lives of older people don't matter, but yes, we are treating this differently. Now, if this were a virus

00:12:27.360 that we're wiping out everyone 30 and under, and for whatever reason, people 30 and over were

00:12:35.120 you know, unscathed, we would be looking at this a little bit differently because that would mean

00:12:40.540 that the virus is probably a lot stronger, that the virus is killing young and healthy people. It's

00:12:46.340 probably, you know, a lot more dangerous. Yes. We look at deaths differently. We just do that. People

00:12:54.240 were trying to, it's all a big virtue signal. If you don't know what virtue signal means, it just means

00:12:59.040 something that you say to sound virtuous, but there's no meat in it. Like there's, it's hollow. There's

00:13:05.500 nothing behind it. It doesn't actually mean anything. So all these people trying to attack Ben Shapiro and

00:13:10.240 all the conservatives that want to open things back up strategically and slowly, by the way, because of

00:13:15.560 the risks of the lockdown and the lack of freedoms, but we've talked about that before. They were, they were

00:13:22.840 giving these stories about their grandparent dying and trying to say that, uh, see, let me tell you, um, how

00:13:33.080 important these lives are. And people were tweeting that to me because I was stupidly, I shouldn't, my rule is

00:13:40.280 do not engage with stupid, but I was trying to say, okay, that's obviously not what was said. Here's what was

00:13:48.240 meant. Here's the idea behind the risk and reward, whatever. And I said something along the lines of,

00:13:55.520 um, the reaction is typically, it's typically more severe when young people are dying than people in

00:14:02.440 their eighties dying because as tragic as it is, and as equally valuable as the life of elderly people

00:14:08.900 are, they have, they have lived most of their lives now. And people were saying, well, I was absolutely

00:14:15.540 devastated when my grandparent died. Of course. So was I, my grandmother died back in October. And we

00:14:22.080 were, when I was growing up, we were as close as you could be between a grandmother and a grandchild.

00:14:27.280 And I was devastated when she died. I was very sad, but I was also very thankful for the life that she

00:14:34.560 lived, the long life that she got to live and all the people that loved her and all the experiences that

00:14:39.260 she was able to have, all the love that she was able to give. Do I wish she had lived a healthy,

00:14:45.540 10 more years? Yes. I would have loved that. I would have loved for her to see me have more

00:14:49.720 babies. I would have loved for her to, uh, see my daughter grow up. I would have loved for her to

00:14:57.320 have a good, healthy, solid 10 to 15 years more. I would have loved for her to live into 100 years

00:15:03.360 old. But, um, I, you know, take comfort in the fact that obviously that God is sovereign, but also

00:15:09.420 that she had a full life. I would not feel the same way about either my parents dying who are 59 and 60

00:15:17.280 or a baby dying or someone of, you know, a cousin my age dying. It would feel, um, untimely. It would

00:15:25.340 feel more tragic. Does that mean that their life is more valuable than my grandmother's? No, of course

00:15:32.160 not. There was this article in the Atlantic that said, Georgia's experiment in human sacrifice,

00:15:38.160 because Georgia is opening slowly and in stages, just like Texas is opening up their economy. And so

00:15:45.500 people are saying that governor Kemp and all the people who support him are opting for human

00:15:51.640 sacrifice. No, no. Like I said, every government leader is weighing the risks and rewards. There are

00:15:59.660 risks to vulnerable populations on both ends of this decision. The difference is if you open things

00:16:06.840 back up, you can keep the vulnerable, uh, the immunocompromised and the elderly, you can keep

00:16:13.060 them quarantined. Like you can keep them inside, but all of the people who need services to survive.

00:16:19.540 So the people with special needs, the cancer patients, the people who need these elective

00:16:23.900 surgeries, the people who need their special education in order to thrive kids who need to go

00:16:30.700 to school, parents who need to go to work and take their kids to daycare. None of those people can

00:16:34.960 access the services that they really need if things stay locked down. So that is the decision people

00:16:41.320 are making. I hate the in bad faith arguments about, Oh my gosh, you don't care about people's

00:16:46.560 grandmothers dying. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Like I said, my, uh, my grandmother died and my husband's

00:16:52.460 grandmother died within like six weeks of each other. And it was really hard. Like it was really

00:16:56.620 hard for both of us. And it has to be even harder now because you can't even plan the same funeral

00:17:01.800 that you would, you can't even celebrate their lives in the same way that you, the same way

00:17:06.160 that you would outside of a pandemic. So yes, I have so much compassion, but let's not, let's not

00:17:11.900 pretend like, uh, let's not pretend that we don't weigh risk and rewards in every decision that we

00:17:19.820 make and that our governors aren't making the same kinds of decisions and that the decision would be

00:17:25.140 different. If this were disproportionately affecting children and young people, it, uh, that might be

00:17:31.560 cruel, uh, a cruel reality, but that is reality. That is reality. And for people saying, well, you're

00:17:39.120 just willing to sacrifice people. Okay. Well, if that's your, if that's your line of reasoning,

00:17:44.880 then, okay, you're saying that everything that involves the risk of hurting someone else

00:17:51.520 should not be done. So you have the risk of running over a pedestrian in your car.

00:17:58.700 Should you not drive your car? Are you by driving? Are, are you, um, sacrificing pedestrians? No,

00:18:06.920 of course you're not. That is stupid again. And this is all coming from the party of abortion

00:18:11.800 and assisted suicide, by the way. So I'm not really interested. Like I said, on Twitter,

00:18:17.760 I don't take cues on compassion from people who think that dismembering babies qualifies as

00:18:23.840 empowerment. So spare me just a little bit. Um, okay, let's move on since we're about halfway

00:18:30.520 through. Let us move on to this out of shadows documentary. Just wanted to, I just had been

00:18:35.720 thinking about all of that for the past 24 hours. So I really had to get it out because I was

00:18:41.800 unfortunately involved in stupid conversations on Twitter, people who were just in bad faith,

00:18:48.100 making arguments that didn't make any sense. And my rule now is that I just need to plaster on my

00:18:55.240 forehead is don't engage with stupid. Now I'm not saying that everyone who disagrees with me is stupid,

00:19:00.740 obviously not even close. I'm not saying that. And I'm not saying everyone who was on the other

00:19:06.140 side of this issue was making stupid arguments. But when people are intentionally misunderstanding,

00:19:11.380 misunderstanding and misinterpreting you and making stupid arguments to try to get out of

00:19:17.120 facing the reality of the logic that's in front of them, then yes, that qualifies as stupid and you

00:19:24.560 don't engage. And I regret so much. Every time I engage with stupidity, I regret it. So anyway,

00:19:32.660 that should be, that should be your motto too. Just don't engage with that kind of stuff. That doesn't

00:19:37.160 mean that you're not humble and kind and compassionate and willing to engage with people

00:19:41.340 who disagree with you. I do that all the time, but don't, don't engage with intentionally stupid.

00:19:47.560 It'll just frustrate you. I think there's a proverb somewhere out there about that. Okay. Let's talk

00:19:52.820 about, let's talk about this out of shadows that you guys have been asking me about. So finally,

00:19:57.300 I watched this documentary a few weeks ago. I think it was three weeks ago now. And it was,

00:20:02.660 in my opinion, really well made. It was really compelling. So I watched it twice and that's what I

00:20:07.300 recommend to you. If you watch this, if you haven't watched it already, or if you've only watched it

00:20:11.440 once, I recommend watching it twice. So I watched it or I actually listened to it the first time I

00:20:15.960 was on a walk and I listened to it. And then I went home and I watched it with my husband and I took

00:20:20.460 notes and things like that. And that's what I encourage you to do. Um, it is, if you haven't

00:20:25.540 listened and you know, you don't feel like watching it and you want to listen to this before you do,

00:20:30.340 that's totally fine. Um, I will give you a little synopsis. So it's centered on a story of an ex

00:20:37.180 stuntman in Hollywood who started hearing about the corrupt and perverse inner workings of Hollywood

00:20:42.820 after he got injured doing a stunt and how Hollywood and the government specifically our

00:20:48.420 intelligence agencies are in bed with one another. And there's this incestuous relationship. The

00:20:54.640 documentary claims between the CIA, for example, and Hollywood and the CIA uses Hollywood to basically

00:21:01.880 brainwash us among other things. Um, it argues this documentary that Satan, uh, Satanism is rampant

00:21:08.780 in Hollywood and even parts of our U S intelligence. And that that influences the pervasive, but mostly

00:21:15.360 not talked about or not talked about enough pedophilia in these powerful spheres, uh, which is what,

00:21:22.020 if I'm not mistaken, connects this in this documentary, which is what connects that idea

00:21:28.300 that pedophilia is rampant in these spheres connects this documentary to talking about pizza gate, which

00:21:33.660 is a long story to explain. And I won't get into all of it, but basically involves this pizza parlor

00:21:39.640 in DC that people had reason to believe was, um, well, the reason that they believed it was because of

00:21:46.060 these emails by the Podesta brothers that was leaked to WikiLeaks that people investigated. I believe,

00:21:51.520 correct me if I'm wrong, but so because of those emails, they believed that this pizza parlor in DC

00:21:57.280 was being used as a front for a pedophile ring. Uh, the clients of which included people,

00:22:02.660 this documentary claims, uh, like the Podesta brothers, John and Tony Podesta are democratic

00:22:08.500 political advisors. It was reported on at the time by a journalist name of Liz Corkin. She

00:22:15.340 is in this documentary. She has been since ostracized by the mainstream media for writing

00:22:21.020 about it. Uh, the documentary is basically about how the mini powers that the, the, the powers that

00:22:27.180 be in, uh, DC and in Hollywood are in cahoots to desensitize us to evil, to manipulate our minds,

00:22:34.220 to push immorality in that, uh, many in these arenas have sold their souls to the devil and have

00:22:40.500 played either active or passive parts in child sex trafficking and pedophilia. And even though

00:22:46.380 the documentary didn't address this, what I'm going to talk about also has to do with Q or Q

00:22:52.600 Anon. I think that's how you say it. I've never followed Q. All that I know about Q is what I

00:22:58.620 researched for this podcast episode. I don't even really know how to explain it properly, except that

00:23:04.900 it's this anonymous person with lots of internet followers claims to have special intelligence to

00:23:11.040 be in the know has special insight. Uh, they claim into what's really going on behind the scenes in

00:23:17.920 the government. Uh, followers of Q believe that president Trump is an enemy of the deep state

00:23:22.920 and enemy of these evil forces. And even that this whole pandemic response is really about him

00:23:29.820 fighting against this quote cabal of elites whom they believe are a bunch of pedophiles. They have

00:23:36.240 accused Tom Hanks, Oprah, Ellen, the Clintons of all being a part of this. And they believe that these

00:23:41.680 people are going to get arrested during all of this if they have not already. Okay. I think that was a

00:23:48.200 pretty good synopsis. So Q out of shadows, they go hand in hand because the people who made this

00:23:54.840 documentary, they are followers and promoters of Q and their messages and things like that. So I hope

00:24:02.920 that was a fair and accurate assessment. That's my goal. I'm not trying to exaggerate. I'm not trying

00:24:07.140 to deceive or leave anything out. Um, so if you watched the documentary, this will all make a lot

00:24:14.120 more sense, all what I'm about to say. So after watching it, here's what I, here's what I know is true.

00:24:20.000 And here's why, if you watch it, you could walk away from this saying, it's totally believable.

00:24:27.200 It's because as Christians, we know that there is real good and real evil. We know that Satan is

00:24:34.040 real. Ephesians two describes Satan as the print of the power of the air. Ephesians six talks about

00:24:39.480 our battle, our spiritual battle against the present powers of this, uh, the powers of this present

00:24:45.080 darkness. Satan's authority is real and influential. There are really people who worship Satan. There are

00:24:51.280 really people, particularly in Hollywood who practice witchcraft, which isn't explicit worship

00:24:57.360 of Satan in name, but is a satanic ritual. We've talked about that on this podcast. That is real.

00:25:04.280 Go back and listen to two episodes, one titled the dangers of the new age with Doreen Virtue.

00:25:09.680 And the second titled the rise of millennial witches, two of my most popular podcast episodes,

00:25:14.660 because I point to the, we point to the real examples of this kind of stuff happening in

00:25:20.100 modern culture and how we are in fact getting desensitized to it, especially as women.

00:25:24.520 So we know as Christians, that evil does exist, that Satan worship does exist, that, uh, real

00:25:31.140 witchcraft exists. We know that child abuse and exploitation, uh, and witchcraft and all sorts

00:25:37.460 of paganism go hand in hand. They always have historically. Again, go listen to the rise of millennial

00:25:43.460 witches. We talk about that specifically, or you can watch it on YouTube. We know obviously that

00:25:49.560 pedophiles exist. We know that child sex trafficking is an underground industry worth billions of

00:25:55.320 dollars. Um, it's unfortunately made up of very powerful people. We know that of course the media

00:26:01.860 in Hollywood tried to create, uh, social and political change through their messaging. Absolutely.

00:26:07.940 However, however, okay. However, I am not sure. I'm, I'm not sure that there is a conscious and

00:26:18.960 concerted conspiracy to do so. Here's where things started to kind of break down for me and the

00:26:25.720 documentary. Um, or here's an example of something that didn't make sense. And then kind of made me

00:26:32.880 skeptical that a lot of things after I heard this. So there's a part when the main person tries to

00:26:40.180 prove that, uh, tries to prove that we are being brainwashed, not just by Hollywood, which I can

00:26:46.400 get on board with, but the media in relation to Hollywood and I'm, or, uh, sorry, the, the elites,

00:26:54.500 the, uh, D sorry, I forgot what I was about to say. The politicians, uh, the intelligence communities

00:27:00.700 that they are in bed with Hollywood to come up with specific programming in order to make us

00:27:07.040 think a certain way in a way that reflects some sort of paganism and Satanism. Now I'm not saying

00:27:13.760 that there aren't really bad actors in our intelligence communities. This whole saga with

00:27:18.180 the Mike Flynn thing can tell us that absolutely that is true, but I'm not sure I see evidence for

00:27:23.860 some conspiracy between the government and between Hollywood to program our minds, to believe certain

00:27:32.320 things based on this documentary. One of the proofs that he tries to convey is the, are, are the names

00:27:41.280 of the things that we are watching. So the names of these components of the media. So he says, for

00:27:48.380 example, that, uh, what does television mean? Well, it's tell a vision. So a vision like a sorceress

00:27:56.960 what's on the television channel. So you're channeling different spirits. What are on the

00:28:02.820 channels, a program. So you're getting programmed. And what's the singular form of media medium. So he

00:28:08.840 uses the names of these things to try to point to this kind of supernatural corrupt pagan thing that

00:28:17.060 is going on between all of these different spheres of power. But sure. Yes. I guess these words,

00:28:25.580 if you break them down, they sound like those things, but these words are also derivatives. So

00:28:31.760 that argument is not a proof to what this documentary is trying to say. Like, let's do some etymology real

00:28:38.640 fast. Television is called television because that's exactly what it is. The prefix tele doesn't mean

00:28:44.880 tell a like T E L L L a or tell a tele is a Greek prefix that means at over from or to a distance like

00:28:54.660 telegraph teleport, a telephone television isn't broken down into tell a vision. It's broken down

00:29:02.460 to mean vision. What we see on the TV screen, um, is being transferred to us. So our vision is seeing

00:29:10.120 something that is being transferred over to us. That's what television means. He says that it's

00:29:14.560 secretly nefarious, that there are TV channels because they're channeling something. Well,

00:29:20.860 they're called channels because the word is derived from the Latin word meaning canalis,

00:29:25.040 which meant waterway and a channel like the English channel still conveys that meaning in the same way.

00:29:30.980 A television channel is a means or a way through which you are receiving a particular program.

00:29:36.320 Program. Yes. That can mean that something is a programmed that are computer programs. People can

00:29:43.340 be programmed to think a certain way. And there's no doubt that shows can program us to think a

00:29:49.360 particular way, but there are other things called programs that are not that like if you go to a

00:29:53.780 dance recital, are they programming you when they hand you the pamphlet that tells you what kind of

00:29:58.820 dances that you are going to see? No, it's called a program because it's an order. It's a series of

00:30:04.400 things. It's an order of events. It's an arrangement of things. He said something else that struck me as

00:30:10.860 hang on a second. I'm not totally sure about that. He claimed that the CIA is basically existing with

00:30:17.120 impunity. No one ever checks in on what the CIA is doing. He said, when's the last time? When's the

00:30:23.100 last time you heard any kind of questioning or investigation of the CIA? They're in bed with

00:30:29.480 Hollywood. I think the thinking goes and the reason no one checks on them is because the deep state is so

00:30:33.900 corrupt and their corruption or their connection with powerful people in Hollywood makes them immune

00:30:39.460 to scrutiny. And so he says that all of these shows try to depict the CIA and intelligence

00:30:45.240 communities as being completely, you know, above reproach. And that's why there are no investigations of

00:30:51.120 the CIA. Like I said, he said, when's the last time you've seen that? Well, there are a couple at least in the

00:30:57.720 past couple decades. There was Iran-Contra that's still controversial today. And there was the

00:31:02.860 Petraeus scandal just from a few years ago. So these were two situations in which people were looking

00:31:09.480 pretty deeply into the CIA, not to mention a lot of the stuff that has happened while Trump has been

00:31:14.440 president. People have been very skeptical of the CIA and the FBI. So this to me, these were really a

00:31:21.520 couple examples of an attempt to bridge things together, but upon some critical thinking made you

00:31:29.000 realize that there were a little bit of a reach. And there were a few instances of that where things

00:31:34.440 weren't really bridged together. It was more of a mosaic of real experiences, of some true history,

00:31:41.180 of some verifiable connections, verifiable connections and facts, along with what seemed like

00:31:48.000 conjecture and implied connections. So for example, the documentary talks about how the government and

00:31:54.420 Hollywood are in bed with each other. Also talks about how Hollywood is into Satanism, which like

00:31:59.340 I said, I'm sure, I am sure that that is true of some celebrities, but there wasn't a solid bridge

00:32:05.760 in the documentary from that assertion to Pizzagate. Pizzagate didn't have to do with Hollywood exactly.

00:32:12.920 Maybe the bridge was Marina Abramovic, who does spirit cooking, a pagan satanic practice,

00:32:17.980 she was included in the Podesta emails, maybe, but that connection and transition was not clearly

00:32:23.760 demonstrated. Like I'm really trying to reach for that kind of connection. The first part of the

00:32:27.840 documentary is super interesting. It's a super interesting rendering of the stuntman's experience

00:32:33.680 in Hollywood, but it's lacking a lot of detail. Like we don't know the timeline. I'm confused about

00:32:39.440 the timeline of his life and his career and when he was figuring this stuff out, how this documentary

00:32:45.200 came together and why in the things and the events, the specific events and information

00:32:50.980 and sources that led him here, uh, there was a lot of vagueness that is really missable because

00:32:57.320 of how well the documentary is. Like I said, I encourage you to watch it twice. Now, if there's

00:33:02.760 anything wrong that I'm saying, or for there's anything I'm leaving out, please like, let me know,

00:33:07.580 email me and I, I would love to hear from you because you can watch it and you have a more

00:33:12.540 recent memory than I do. Watch it twice, take notes, ask questions. Maybe you are skeptical

00:33:17.020 about some other things that I also, uh, that I also missed. Uh, it's easy to finish watching this

00:33:23.540 and just say, yeah, I believe that's all happening because it is absolutely true. Like we said, that evil

00:33:31.620 exists and evil knows no bounds. And so it is always within the realm of possibility that things like

00:33:38.820 this could occur. We know that we know that there are pervs. We know that there are pedophiles. We

00:33:44.260 know Hollywood has a pedophile problem. We know that there are pervy, powerful, pedophilic people.

00:33:50.280 Uh, so there are pieces of this documentary that are verifiably true, but what it's missing

00:33:57.500 is solid glue, solid, factual, verifiable connections. So here's what we don't know. We do

00:34:05.400 not know. We do not know based on the evidence at hand, based on this documentary, that there is a

00:34:10.600 deep state effort conjoined with Hollywood to commercialize pedophilia and that there is a cabal

00:34:16.440 that is running this. Now, do we see the beginnings of acceptance of pedophilia by renaming pedophiles

00:34:22.520 things like minor attracted person? Yes. We see the sexualization of kids and the transgender and

00:34:28.380 drag movement? Yes. Because again, real evil and perversion exists. Uh, but the pedophilia and

00:34:35.520 trafficking being pushed by the deep state along with people like Tom Hanks and Oprah, like these are

00:34:42.020 claims that a lot of these people are making in the Q world. And Trump is secretly battling this cabal

00:34:48.040 and using the Corona virus as a cover to rescue kids from sex trafficking. That is just not

00:34:53.360 verifiable. I don't see any evidence of that. That's not an assertion by the way, that particular

00:34:58.960 one that is made in the documentary, but the people who made the documentary are also big promoters of

00:35:03.840 Q, like I said, which is pushing that kind of storyline. Now we know from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal

00:35:09.960 that there are powerful people in politics and media and in Hollywood that traffic exploit and take

00:35:15.840 advantage of young women, teenage girls, young as 14 years old, were caught up in the whole Jeffrey

00:35:21.080 Epstein, disgusting scandal that happened. Uh, these are terrible people of both large and small

00:35:28.340 influence, but there's no evidence that I see to show, uh, that there is a secret war being waged

00:35:35.080 between Trump and these powerful forces. There is no evidence that I see to show that Corona virus

00:35:41.460 is a cover for that war. And some of the people who are being accused of being a part of this cabal

00:35:48.600 cannot be proven to be a part of it. I have no reason to defend like no personal gain from defending

00:35:56.840 people like Tom Hanks or Oprah. I don't know them, but it is a very serious allegation that they are

00:36:03.040 sex traffickers. And unless you know that for an absolute fact, unless you know that for a fact,

00:36:09.940 it is an evil idea to push again, that's not in this documentary, but it is a cue theory. If you

00:36:17.140 go to their Instagrams, you can look at their comments and you can see comments from a lot of

00:36:21.920 these people, but there are other names dropped in the documentary implying that maybe they're

00:36:26.100 connected with this whole quote cabal. And we don't know that. And so to say that, you know,

00:36:31.820 that is wrong. And there's another layer to this again, not explicitly in the documentary,

00:36:37.060 but connected to all of it. And if you follow the people that are talking about these theories,

00:36:43.340 you will also see promotion of the idea that all of this is bringing on a spiritual revival,

00:36:49.620 that this was all, all of this is God's plan. I guess this is more of a post-millennialist view.

00:36:56.260 I am a pre-millennialist, but a post-millennialist view, obviously not all post-mill people believe

00:37:01.480 this, but a post-millennialist view that things are going to get better, that God,

00:37:07.280 that the gospel is going to spread more and more. And well, we know that's true,

00:37:13.300 but that things are going to start conforming more and more to God's law. So I guess this is

00:37:18.440 more of a post-mill view that these people are holding. They were, a lot of these people were also

00:37:24.380 talking about the idea back in February, that if the chiefs won the Superbowl,

00:37:28.220 that would mean there is a revival coming. And that is superstition, guys. Like that's

00:37:33.800 superstition. That is not based on the word of God. Like that's not a biblical idea. And I hope

00:37:40.200 and pray for an awakening in this country. Can God do that? Absolutely. Please, Jesus, I am 100% here

00:37:46.160 for a spiritual awakening. But this narrative that's going on between this documentary and

00:37:51.360 Q theories and things like that is very strangely intertwined. That the real battle of good and

00:37:58.140 evil, the true spiritual battle happening between God and the devil is between the liberal globalists

00:38:03.640 and who they call the patriots. I'm not sure about that. Like, don't get me wrong. I am no fan. You

00:38:10.120 guys know that. I'm no fan of liberal globalists. I do believe that they push a whole lot of evil,

00:38:15.580 pushing global socialism, the obliteration of individual liberty and general moral degeneracy,

00:38:21.260 everything George Soros is behind, for example, or much of the agenda of the WHO and the UN and Planned

00:38:27.320 Parenthood. But some of the details about particular celebrities and politicians, the deep state

00:38:32.480 coronavirus, President Trump, I do not see evidence for that. Here's the deal. Conservatives are

00:38:39.200 naturally skeptical. That's part of the reason why we are conservative. Like we are skeptical of the

00:38:44.340 powers that be. We're skeptical of big institutions. We're skeptical of bureaucracy. We're skeptical of

00:38:49.940 the things that we don't see. We carry the spirit of our founding fathers who always bucked against,

00:38:55.380 uh, who bucked against tyranny and taking away of our freedoms. We are, um, scared of that. We are

00:39:02.680 fearful of that in what I think is a healthy way. And I think that this, the theories in some of this

00:39:11.940 document and in this documentary, uh, some of which are pushed in this documentary, even though I think

00:39:18.040 the basis for a lot of them or parts of a lot of them may be grounded in truth that there are evil,

00:39:25.640 terrible, predatory people out there, um, the glue that holds it together and the facts that are meant

00:39:32.840 to hold it together are not verifiable. Here's the deal. Conservatives are naturally skeptical.

00:39:41.160 We're naturally skeptical of institutions and we are obviously skeptical of institutions that are

00:39:48.040 pushing moral relativism and immorality. And we are skeptical of, uh, predators and we are skeptical

00:39:56.040 of people who would take advantage of the weak. We are skeptical of the powers that be. That is normal.

00:40:03.880 But I think that we need to be very careful not following superstition and not following things

00:40:09.640 that haven't been verified because it satiates our skepticism of institutionalized power.

00:40:17.960 Um, I think that where we go for truth, I know where we go for truth is the word of God. Be careful.

00:40:24.920 Be careful. Keep on weighing the things that you hear, whether it's from the mainstream media

00:40:30.200 or whether it's from an Instagram account that's propagating this kind of stuff, make sure that

00:40:34.840 you compare it to the word of God, like make sure that it's biblical. And if you don't know what to

00:40:39.640 believe, like you don't have to worry about researching this documentary. Like you don't

00:40:44.200 have to worry about researching Q. You don't have to worry about following along with it because

00:40:49.000 you know, God is sovereign. God tells you what to do. God tells you not to follow all the superstitions

00:40:54.440 or all the theories, conspiracy theory or not that the world is following. Like this is not,

00:41:01.240 I know that a lot of people who are in this world think this is like some special calling from God.

00:41:05.720 Like this is the almost like true church. Like this is the true movement that God is doing.

00:41:11.000 This is not the true movement that God is doing. God is calling believers to do what he has always

00:41:15.320 called believers to do, which is to obey him, to pray, to share the gospel and to serve and love your

00:41:21.000 neighbor. Like if you are finding yourself winding down this road of theories, whether it's from this

00:41:27.640 source or anything else, and I'm not saying everyone in the documentary is doing this, but if you as an

00:41:32.280 individual are finding yourself going down this road, trying to research all of these things,

00:41:36.520 then I think you just need to take a step back and realize that God is in control. Is knowledge

00:41:40.600 important? Yes. I think research is great. And to realize that there are really evil people

00:41:45.880 that will exploit our children and want their minds and want us to believe certain things.

00:41:51.560 Absolutely. But obsessing over it and constantly researching it and looking for all of these,

00:41:58.360 you know, different connections until you work yourself into a tizzy, but you're so anxious because

00:42:02.120 you don't know what to do. I don't think that's what God is calling you to do. I think God is calling

00:42:06.680 you to be the hands and feet of him, which he will empower you to do through the Holy Spirit and with

00:42:11.720 the help of the church. Like that is what we are called to do. We are not called to work ourselves

00:42:16.360 up with anxiety about things that are just not verifiable. Um, so I'm sure that this podcast

00:42:23.000 episode made a lot of people mad. I am like, I am more than happy to have Liz Gorkin on, uh, on my

00:42:30.280 podcast and, and talk to people about this, but I'm just telling you my honest assessment. I enjoyed the

00:42:38.040 documentary, but I think that in all things, and I hope that Liz and all the people who made this

00:42:43.320 documentary would agree with me. Like we have to be skeptical. We have to check things out. We have

00:42:48.040 to make sure that things are connected before we run with them. So this is my honest, uh, skeptical

00:42:56.360 pushback and assessment of it. Thank you guys so much for listening. I will be back here on Monday.

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Ep 245 ｜ Trump vs. the Cabal？

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