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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
- July 10, 2020
Ep 273 | Winning the Culture War
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Word Count
10,366
Sentence Count
527
Misogynist Sentences
17
Hate Speech Sentences
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Friday. I hope everyone has had a wonderful week. I
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cannot believe that we are already in the second week of July. That's crazy. That's
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crazy. This year has just gone by so fast, but at the same time, it's been like crawling
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by with everything that has happened. This past year has been just such a reminder for
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all of us that we cannot predict the future even a little bit. That verse in the book of
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James that talks about rather than saying, you know, I'm going to do this tomorrow, I'm
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going to do that tomorrow. We need to be saying, if the Lord wills, we will be doing X, Y, Z.
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Well, I used to think, okay, maybe that's not really necessary to say. Of course, we're
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deferring to God's sovereignty in all things. And I think I've talked about this on the podcast
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before, but now I've really started thinking that way even more. And I think that's a good
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thing. There are very many wonderful blessings in the midst of all of this craziness. And
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one of them, I think, is that God is not just calling us to himself, but calling Christians
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who are already with him more deeply into his word and actually applying it because we are
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realizing the urgency of the moment. Today, we're going to talk about a lot of things that
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inspire urgency and concern inside of us. But I'm going to finish on a very, I think,
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encouraging and motivating note before I get into talking about culture wars, which we started
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talking about on Wednesday with Black Lives Matter. And we're going to continue to talk
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about today as well as the deconstruction of language and the ignorance of objectivity or
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the purposeful abolition of objectivity and what all of that Orwellian nonsense means for
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us and how we can combat it. Before we get into all of that, I would love for you guys,
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if you love this podcast, to leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts. That would just mean
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if you love this podcast, please give me a five-star review. It helps our show out a lot.
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We have several thousand, I think, at this point, reviews, and it really does help our show,
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and I really appreciate it. So thank you guys so much. Okay, so today we are going to talk about
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the parts of the culture wars that are particularly problematic and counterproductive to having any kind
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of unified or thriving society. We talked about on Wednesday how BLM, the organization,
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has infiltrated all sectors of society, corporate America, social media, news media, academia, the
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entirety of the Democratic Party. This right now is kind of the center of the culture wars. They are
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controlling these sectors of society to the point where people are getting bullied for their beliefs
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online, fired for their political opinions, doxxed and ruined for not falling in line with the
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orthodoxy. And they do this by collapsing two categories. Racist, that's one category, and
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disagreeing with Black Lives Matter. So if you disagree with Black Lives Matter on ideological grounds,
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like I and a lot of other people do on both sides of the aisle, by the way, you are considered by the
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cultural powers that be a racist. And no one wants to be a racist. That's the worst thing that you can be
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in America in 2020 or be associated with racist. So you've got a lot of bullying. And because of that, also
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a lot of capitulating as just a way of self-preservation for a lot of people. And if you bring up the fact
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that, hey, Black Lives Matter wants to break up the nuclear family, according to their website, they call
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themselves trained Marxists. The founders have loudly supported the communist regimes that have ravaged
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Venezuela. They're anti-capitalism. They're pro-abortion. They ignore the thousands of lives taken by other
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Black people every year and focus on the few instances of Black people, tragically, by the way, being shot
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and killed by the police. We talked all about that in detail on Wednesday. So if you haven't listened to
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that, I encourage you to do so. If you bring these things up, even if you agree with the phrase Black Lives
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Matter, which I think everyone agrees with that sentiment, even if you too care about injustice,
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if you want police reform, if you care about racism where it exists, but you just believe that the
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organization BLM is counterproductive, then you are considered by, again, the cultural powers that be
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a racist. So people are fired for saying things like all lives matter. Grant Napier was an NBA
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announcer who tweeted that all lives matter, not even as a disagreement to the phrase that Black Lives
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Matter, just saying all lives matter, every single one. He's an older guy. I highly doubt he knows
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that some people who use all lives matter are using it as a counter to Black Lives Matter,
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but he was fired for that. He apologized, but his apology was not accepted, of course.
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Now, I personally, just to make a note on this, I personally don't go around saying all lives matter
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as a response to Black Lives Matter because it seems to be, and I say this sincerely,
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triggering, and I don't desire to trigger people for the sake of triggering, no matter what my haters
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might think. And I understand the logic. I do. If one group is disproportionately hurting or treated
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unfairly, you saying that all hurt matters or all lives matter, they would say, people who argue
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against saying all lives matter, would say that it's a way of saying that we shouldn't focus on those
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who are being disproportionately affected by injustice. Now, of course, the question is,
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which we're not really allowed to ask and we're not really allowed to debate, is who doesn't actually
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believe that Black Lives Matter as much as other lives? And can we empirically see that Black Americans'
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value is diminished, but other kinds of Americans' value is not? Of course, we talked about that again on
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Wednesday and a little bit a few weeks ago in the episode titled Does the Truth Matter? So we won't
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get into that debate today. So that said, I understand why if you have a particular perspective,
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you don't like the phrase all lives matter. But I also understand, at least for the majority of people
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who use it, that the sentiment is simply to say that all lives matter equally, including Black lives.
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Either way, either way, no matter where you stand on that phrase or no matter what,
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where you stand on this debate, should someone be fired for saying that all lives matter equally?
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Reagan Escude, I think that's how you pronounce her last name, is a young woman who was fired from
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her job after the social media censorship mob came for her, saying basically that, hey, how the world
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handled and is handling the George Floyd tragedy isn't going to bring peace, but Jesus will. That's
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a summary of what she said. She was fired for that. A Hispanic man was fired from his job for making
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what is allegedly the white power symbol, which it's really not. It's the three fingers up in the
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circle with your pointer finger and your thumb that people have all of a sudden decided, because I guess
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a few people maybe did this at one point. It's a white power symbol, but most people just know it as
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okay. But apparently when anyone does this, it's secretly a dog whistle of white supremacy. Well,
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this Hispanic man wasn't even making that sign. He was cracking his knuckles and someone saw him do
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that and found out where he worked, called his employer. This is just a middle class, working
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class Hispanic man. And he got fired from his job. There's no evidence whatsoever that this person is
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a white supremacist. In fact, I think it's pretty clear that he's not. Well, he was canceled,
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his life ruined, and who knows what's happened to him and his family since then for literally
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cracking his knuckles in a way that offended someone. Churches of all stripes, this is part
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of the craziness that's happening. People have just lost, lost their minds and their ability to
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actually engage in any kind of substantive way. Churches of all stripes are pushing ridiculous
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resources like white fragility by Robin DiAngelo. Robin DiAngelo is a radical fraud. I don't know how
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else to say that who is making literally millions of dollars off a conversation that is supposed to
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be centered on black people. Now, I will respect a little bit if she takes all the money that she
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is earning from the thousands of dollars that she earns every time that she goes to speak to a group
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about racism or all of the proceeds from her book, which I'm sure is making her millions of dollars
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because it's been on best-selling lists for several months now. I would respect a little bit if she
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gave that money to the communities that she is saying are so disproportionately and consistently
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affected by racism and white supremacy. I have not seen her do that. I have a feeling that she is
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cashing those checks and that she is pretty proud of herself for all of the money that she is making
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off of anti-black racism. I've read parts of the book and reviews of the book from all across the
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aisle, all across the aisle and all different ethnicities reviewing this book. It's a book
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that uses self-flagellation as a means of self-congratulations. And I know that that sounds
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paradoxical, but that's exactly what it is. It argues that all white people are racist from birth,
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no matter what, and that pretty much everything we do and think and say is racist without even
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knowing it. And that the only way to work against our inherent endemic racism that we are just born
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with and that we have from the moment that we enter the earth, that we come on the earth stage
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is to work against it, to realize and to take responsibility of our inevitable racism and
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constantly defer to the directives of people of color, no matter what they are. And even that,
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she says, is not necessarily going to make you not racist. It will just help you fight the racism
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that is always going to be inside of you and is always going to therefore affect all systems.
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Jonathan Church wrote a good short critique in Arc Digital titled, Dear White People,
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Please do not read Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility. He says this,
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The theory is designed as a Kafka trap whereby any denial is interpreted as evidence of guilt. If you object
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to any insinuation that you are racist because you are white or that you have something or that what
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you have said has racist connotations, you are failing to come to terms with your racism and
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exhibiting white fragility. A Kafka trap, like he said, is a rhetorical trick that says if you defend
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yourself, you're guilty. So it's kind of like the Salem witch trial, same thing happened there. So you're
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put into this terrible position by this book and by all of these proponents of this book,
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you're put in this terrible position of not being able to even say that you're not racist or that
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something that you said wasn't intentional racism or didn't have any kind of racist motivation behind
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it, even if you know that it didn't. And even if you know that you're not racist, because if you say
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that you're not a racist, apparently, according to Robin DiAngelo and all of the people who ascribe to
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this philosophy, it's just evidence that you are. That is what this book is. It is also an example of
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what Votie Bauckham calls ethnic Gnosticism, that you have this special knowledge because of your
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ethnicity and that you get to tell other people what racism is, but they're not able to defend
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themselves. They're not able to say, no, I'm not racist because only people of certain perspectives
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can say what racism is. There is no objective definition of it and there is no ability to defend
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yourself. Again, because if you defend yourself, well, then it just means that you're a racist.
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So this Kafka trap, which says that if you defend yourself, then that just means that you're fragile,
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that just fragility is the new, is one of the new terms. I would say the right does this too. Both
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sides like have these terms and words that become popular and they constantly use them, but that's
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especially true on the left. And I'm actually going to show you proof of that in, in just a second.
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But fragility is one of them. Anyone who disagrees with this narrative that all white people are
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irrevocably and inherently racist, no matter what they've ever said or not said, no matter what
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they've ever done or not done. People who push back against that they're accused of being fragile
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or people who are conservative or accused of being fragile. Anyone who goes against the leftist
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narrative is accused of being fragile. That is, that's the new term du jour. I've heard several
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progressives on my page on, and on social media say that they're racist, that we all are, that all
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white people are white supremacists, and we just have to recognize that and take responsibility.
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It's hilarious to me that the people who are saying they're racist are apparently considered
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less, less racist than the people who are saying that we're not racist. It doesn't make any sense.
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This review by Jonathan Church goes on to say,
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A third problem with the theory of white fragility is that it relies on the vague idea of whiteness as
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an all-encompassing, all-powerful ideological thread running its way through every part of the social
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fabric. Every instance of racial disparity is interpreted as evidence of whiteness in action,
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i.e. as evidence of racism. As Ibram X. Kendi says,
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when I see racial disparities, I see racism. Ibram X. Kendi is the author of another book
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that is being promoted by a lot of churches called How to Be Anti-Racist. The problem with
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this statement just alone and part of the argument of white fragility, when I see racial disparities,
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I see racism, is that it's just not objectively or provably true, and at least not necessarily.
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And that is exactly what the entire idea of systemic racism is built on. The fact that
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disparities exist, and therefore, the reason for them must be discrimination. But that is a logical
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fallacy. It's a fallacy that doesn't actually try to look at why disparities exist. It assumes that
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racism is the sole or the primary cause of all disparities. When the assumption behind disparities
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and crime rates or incarceration rates or unfatherlessness rates or graduation rates
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is always racism, that's a problem because we fail to be able to talk about and offer real solutions
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to real problems. If you read, once again, I think I have probably encouraged you guys to read this on
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every episode for the past two weeks, but it really is just so enlightening. If you read Discrimination
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and Disparities, that's what this entire book is about by Thomas Sowell, you'll read the proof behind
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the fact that disparities can, but they do not always unconditionally equal discrimination. To assume
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that racism is always and unconditionally the cause of disparities is a fallacy. It's a myth. Indian
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Americans and East Asian Americans, as we've talked about, have higher graduation rates, higher test scores,
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higher median incomes, and lower fatherlessness rates than white Americans. That's a racial disparity.
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Is that also racism? Are Indian Americans and East Asian Americans oppressing white people? I think that we would
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all say no. And yet there are racial disparities that show that Indian Americans and East Asian Americans are
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doing better than white people. And so if racism is the cause for all disparities, then what's the cause of that
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disparity? Is it also racism? I don't think so. Both the NBA and the NFL are majority black organizations. That is a
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racial disparity. Is that racism? And let's apply that logic of disparities always equal injustice or
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discrimination to other things. If you look at the gender breakdown of certain jobs in America, according
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to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, for example, 87% of those who make up the nursing profession are women.
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That's a huge gender disparity. Is that sexism? 94% of all pest control workers, exterminators are men.
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That is a big gender disparity. Is that sexism? In all maintenance and construction jobs,
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there are very few women, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, and childcare, cosmetology, housekeeping,
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there are very few men. Is that disparity because of discrimination? Is the patriarchy oppressing
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women so that they don't think that they can become a carpenter, for example? There are lots of
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reasons. People of all types that have disparate outcomes or there's a reason why people of all
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types have disparate outcomes in their lives. And discrimination may and is, it may be and is
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sometimes one of the factors in these disparities. But to say that it is the only and unconditional and
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always the factor that is driving these disparities, like I said, is a fallacy. It is just not
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factual. But many of the conversations that we're having today are simply not factual at all. And if
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you try to bring up facts or statistics or logic or even just another side of the argument, then you
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are accused of being racist. If you question this very nebulous and almost undefined idea often of
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systemic racism and this vague term of white supremacy or this unreachable idea of anti-racism,
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if you just ask, hang on, what do you mean by that? Can we please define our terms? Where does
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this come from? What are you basing this on? What's the end of all of this stuff? Then you are assumed
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to be insufficiently compassionate, insufficiently understanding. You're not a true ally. If you
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question anything, you'll notice that a lot of the people that are very angry, if you bring up
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another perspective when it comes to these social justice issues, they are very quick to make a lot of
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assumptions. They say you're rich, you're privileged, you just don't know, you're uneducated, do better.
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Like all of these cliches, I don't know if they realize just how uniform they sound. They're all
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repeating the same things. And they stack emotional argument off emotional argument to try to make you
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feel bad about yourself. But they're not actually coming back, typically, not always, coming back with
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any kind of factual counter points, because that's not their goal. The goal isn't factual analysis.
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The goal isn't logic, because that is emotionally unsatisfying. And that is not where their argument
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lies. The argument is really that pushing back against a narrative, pushing back or questioning
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the nebulous idea of systemic racism, for example, that that is rude, that that is mean. And if that
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is your argument, and if that is your only argument, then facts don't really matter. There's no reason to
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have any kind of fact-based dialogue if your only problem with someone's argument is that it's mean
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and that you don't like it. You're told that you're not a true ally if you question anything,
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despite the fact that there are many Black people across the aisle who push back on Black Lives Matter,
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on the idea of systemic racism, the movement of so-called anti-racism, the social justice
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bullying that is involved in these conversations, the virtue signaling that has no real impact,
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cancel culture, white guilt. John McWhorter, Glenn Lowry, Coleman Hughes, for example, are not
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Republicans. Marcellus Wiley, not a Republican. Terry Crews, not a Republican. Jason Whitlock,
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he's considered more conservative. But these are not guys who are out there. They're not stumping
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for Trump every day. A lot of people accuse Black people who disagree with the liberal narrative of
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just being, you know, they call them all kinds of terrible names and basically accuse them of not
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thinking for themselves. And they accuse them of, you know, trying to align themselves with Trump or
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whatever. Well, that just cannot be said of a lot of the Black Americans that are pushing back against
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these narratives. These are all Black men that I just listed who have pushed back against the
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identity and language and evasive phraseology in Marxist movements who are not considered necessarily
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Republicans. And they're not even alone in that. Of course, you have more conservative Black voices.
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You've got Thomas Sowell. You've got Jason Reilly, Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, Larry Elder,
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Alan West, Carol Swain, Daryl Harrison, Virgil Walker. Those two I've had on my show, Votie Bauckham.
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And they're not alone. The funny thing is, if you repost something that one of these people wrote or said,
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white liberals will still call you a racist and claim that you are only reposting Black people who
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affirm your views. So what do you think it is when a white liberal only reposts Black people who
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affirm their views? So why is the former tokenism, but the latter isn't? The latter is just empowering
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and elevating Black voices. In fact, many, not all, not all, but many that I've encountered and seen
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white liberals do not care whether it is a Black person talking about the subject. They're willing to
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promote Robin DiAngelo, for example, and pay her thousands of dollars to talk about racism. They
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would listen to Robin DiAngelo talk about what it's like to be Black in America before they would
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listen to Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder or Votie Bauckham talk about what it's like being Black in
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America. As Thomas Sowell says, the reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these
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issues are so complex, but that people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them
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emotionally unsatisfied. Someone like Robin DiAngelo or other white liberals offer an emotionally
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satisfying Marxist argument. People like Thomas Sowell or Votie Bauckham or Larry Elder or Alan West or
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Jason Reilly, their analysis of these issues are going to leave someone who thinks in strictly
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emotional terms emotionally unsatisfied. Emotions aren't bad, by the way. We should have passion. We should
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have compassion. We should have sympathy. And all of these things are very important. But our emotions
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always have to be verified by and subject to facts. If our emotions that are not based on facts are the
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basis of policy and are the basis of cultural movements, then we are going to lead the country
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in a very bad place. And of course, I do believe that is what's happening. The way to be able to healthily
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balance all of this is to be able to talk about personal experiences, but distinguish personal
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experiences from objective definitions and systemic reality, to be able to define words using finite and
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clear definitions, to be able to detach ourselves, all of us, from narrative and to look at the facts,
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look at the data, look at the real problems, the real cycles that are happening in particular
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communities, and have a discussion and debate around those things. This is not, this conversation
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is not, A, to diminish real racism. It is, in fact, an argument for talking about racism where it exists
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to define racism. But in order to do that, we have to be able to believe in objectivity and to have
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finite definitions of words. And we cannot do that if the definition, we can't have these conversations
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and talk about what real racism looks like, if the definition of racism is simply anything and anyone
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that someone doesn't like. And this conversation that we're happening is also not to be diminished
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people's real experiences or emotions surrounding racism. If you have experienced bad treatment because
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of your skin, you're going to be upset about that. And of course, that's normal. And we can talk about
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those things. But we have to be able to subject our emotions and our experiences to objective truth if we
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are going to be talking about policy solutions and solutions that affect a wide array of people.
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But discussion and debate, which are necessary for talking about real problems and solutions,
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cannot happen if you are saying that everyone who is disagreeing with you is threatening you,
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or that words are violence, or you are canceling people for having different ideas, or liking tweets
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that you don't like, or following people that you don't like, canceling people for their social
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media behavior that is not abusive. And I do want to make a distinction here. I do believe that people
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should be held accountable for the things they say. We know that God is going to hold us accountable
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for the things we say. Jesus says that we're going to be held accountable for every single word that we
00:24:47.440
speak. And so before cancel culture, before all of this craziness, before social media, people were still
00:24:53.560
held accountable for the things that they said in the political arena, in the professional arena,
00:24:58.600
in the private arena. Of course, there is accountability for the things that we say. And
00:25:03.640
we do own and take responsibility for the things that we say. I'm not talking about holding people
00:25:08.480
accountable who say abusive or terrible things. I am talking about canceling people for expressing
00:25:14.200
legitimate political opinions, not being abusive, but simply saying, hey, I've got a question about
00:25:20.560
the ideology of Black Lives Matter. Hey, I'm not a Marxist. Hey, are the problems that they're pointing
00:25:25.820
out real problems? Are the solutions that they're pointing out real solutions? Like those are
00:25:30.580
legitimate questions that if we really cared about caring about Black lives, like if we really cared
00:25:37.280
about vulnerable communities, we would not only allow people to ask those questions, but we would be
00:25:42.400
answering those questions. We would be digging deeper and we would be having respectful dialogue
00:25:49.500
about these things. If you learn about our founding, I think when we think back to the beginnings of
00:25:56.740
America, we think everyone was united in their love for liberty and that the disagreements that they had
00:26:03.060
were very minute. They were very insignificant. But America and our founding is based on compromises
00:26:09.700
between people who very viciously disagreed with one another, who had very disparate visions of what the
00:26:16.760
country was going to look like. And thankfully, because they did have the shared foundational
00:26:21.340
principles of liberty and self-governance, they were able to come to compromises. But this country
00:26:27.080
is built on disagreement. The difference between then and now is not that we have more disagreements
00:26:31.880
than we had then. It is that A, we have more fundamental disagreements than we had then. Like we're
00:26:37.100
questioning very basic things like what is truth? What is good and bad? What is science? Like is a
00:26:44.480
woman a woman and is a man a man? Is an unborn child really a life? All of these questions that
00:26:49.460
have been answered for millennia, all of a sudden they're up in the air and we don't know about them.
00:26:53.320
So we have very basic and fundamental disagreements. That's one reason why we are so far apart. And the
00:26:58.540
other reason is because of this, because we are unable to have debates and discussions with someone on
00:27:03.580
the other side without being told that we're a terrible person simply for raising questions and
00:27:08.920
disagreeing and offering a different perspective. A communications manager at Boeing, this is another
00:27:15.160
example of cancel culture, just resigned because of an article he wrote 30 years ago, 30 years ago,
00:27:22.980
arguing that women shouldn't serve in combat. Someone found it, called him a sexist. He apologized and said
00:27:29.360
he was so embarrassed and he resigned. That is, by the way, as an aside, a totally defensible
00:27:37.260
position. Women shouldn't be on the ground in combat. We don't have the same makeup as men. We
00:27:45.420
can't carry as much weight and simultaneously run as quickly. We have lower muscle tone. We have lower
00:27:50.440
bone density, lower anaerobic and aerobic capacity, not to mention we simply think differently than men do
00:27:56.700
in most cases. The military is not a social experiment. It's about lethality. Like you're just
00:28:02.080
not egalitarian on the battlefield. You're just not. And while women may be very useful in a lot of
00:28:08.620
roles, on the grounds, combat just isn't one of them. So this is a very defensible position. But
00:28:14.680
there was no conversation about this. He never said in his apology, hey, new data has come out and
00:28:20.120
actually women should be in combat. I was wrong. There was nothing like that. There was no conversation
00:28:25.300
about whether or not what he was saying is true. Like there was no debate about that. It was just that,
00:28:30.280
okay, what I said then, even though it might be factual, doesn't fit into the popular social
00:28:34.820
narrative of today. And so I'm embarrassed. And everyone just said, oh yeah, okay, it doesn't fit
00:28:39.340
into what we think about egalitarianism between the genders today. So yes, you should resign. That's
00:28:47.020
ridiculous. Like we didn't even have a conversation about whether or not what he's saying is actually
00:28:51.820
factual. So people have lost their ever loving minds. And there is this unfortunately destructive
00:28:58.380
instinct that is a lethal mixture of total depravity and Marxism that drives people to ruin the lives
00:29:06.000
of those that they find threatening just because they express ideas that they don't like. Another
00:29:11.420
example of this is J.K. Rowling, a lady of the left. She has been under fire for a while for saying the
00:29:17.720
very scandalous and problematic reality that women are women and men are men. And that saying that
00:29:24.520
some men can be women by way of declaration actually erases women, which is just, of course,
00:29:30.480
logically true. Now, this is someone who believes in the validity of transgenderism. So she believes
00:29:37.160
that someone can transition and that they can identify as a transgender woman or a transgender man.
00:29:43.640
She simply doesn't believe in collapsing those categories of transgender woman and biological woman
00:29:48.880
because then you are forcing biological women to compete against and to share private and vulnerable
00:29:54.640
spaces with biological men who, no matter what you think, are always going to be biologically different
00:30:00.560
and biologically stronger than biological women. So that is part of, that's part of the issue here,
00:30:07.280
not to just, not even to mention the total illogic and the anti-science philosophy that's behind the idea
00:30:15.800
that you can just become a woman by saying that you're a woman. It's ironic because that objectifies
00:30:21.980
and diminishes what womanhood is. And so many feminists are simply willing to go along with it.
00:30:29.000
I encourage you, if you haven't already, to listen to Monday's episode that I did with Abigail Schreier.
00:30:33.600
She dives more deeply into this in her book, and that's what we discussed. Well, J.K. Rowling,
00:30:38.960
of course, is being canceled for all of this. She has a lot of people coming after her and sending her
00:30:44.560
very nasty messages and mail simply for saying a biological reality. And I disagree with her still
00:30:53.460
on her idea of transgenderism and who can say that they're what and all of that. I mean, like I said,
00:31:00.520
she is ideologically on the left, but at least she is pushing for a biological reality. Like,
00:31:07.000
at least she's, quote, red-pilled in that way. There's another young woman, Megan Murphy,
00:31:11.180
who has written about this a lot. And because she talked about it on Twitter,
00:31:14.420
she got kicked off Twitter and she hasn't allowed to come back on. Another example of this
00:31:19.800
crazy world that we can't actually have debate about very normal things and good things to
00:31:26.180
debate about. Like, there's a lot to debate. There's a lot to question. But because someone
00:31:30.100
has declared that it's mean, we can't even talk about whether or not these things are true.
00:31:34.420
There was this letter called Harper's Letter that a bunch of people who are on the left,
00:31:42.700
like Noam Chomsky and J.K. Rowling and other people who are on the left, they did this open
00:31:50.440
letter together calling for the preservation of free speech and open dialogue and debate. And I really
00:31:57.200
appreciate that. Unfortunately, the first half of the letter is spent trying to win over their
00:32:04.300
comrades on the left who are against free speech by talking about how the right are the people who
00:32:10.440
are the demagogues. They're the people who are canceling people. They're the censorious ones.
00:32:14.600
Well, that's not true. I'm not saying there's no one on the right who wants to censor certain ideas,
00:32:19.700
but that is not a tenet of conservatism, at least not in the past several decades. It's just not true.
00:32:25.520
And so they try very hard to castigate the right for something that in general the right is not
00:32:30.420
guilty for in order to try to gain some kind of credibility with the people on the left that
00:32:34.660
they're really appealing to, to be able to say, look, I'm one of you. And in so doing,
00:32:40.280
they really pleased no one because the people, their comrades on the left who are against free
00:32:44.480
speech were not at all persuaded by this. And the people on the right don't like to be called
00:32:49.440
mindless demagogues who are censoring people when we're not. Like, we're the people who are accused
00:32:54.300
of being obsessed with debates because we want to have dialogue about important issues, but they
00:32:59.960
had to put that in there to pander to their previous base or what would be their base. But
00:33:05.720
they do make good points that the right has been literally saying for years. This is part of it. And
00:33:12.260
this is the part that I agree with. This stifling atmosphere of talking about stifling free speech
00:33:17.920
and canceling people simply for saying that a woman is a woman or something like that, or hey,
00:33:22.780
capitalism has slashed global poverty in half in the past 20 years. This stifling atmosphere will
00:33:29.940
ultimately harm the most vital causes of our time. The restriction of debate, whether by a repressive
00:33:35.180
government or an intolerant society, invariably hurts those who lack power and makes everyone less
00:33:41.720
capable of democratic participation. The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument and
00:33:48.400
persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away. We refuse any false choice between justice and
00:33:54.680
freedom, which cannot exist without each other, which is absolutely true. I saw another tweet and I don't
00:34:01.600
have it. So I can't give credit and I'll have to paraphrase it. But I saw it floating around on Instagram
00:34:08.200
that even if you live in a society where the government is not restricting free speech,
00:34:13.360
which you could argue in places like California and New York, they are by trying to fine you for
00:34:17.480
misgendering someone. So there are cases where the government is trying to compel speech or limit
00:34:24.700
your speech absolutely. But even if you live in a society that the government is not doing that and
00:34:30.020
you have First Amendment rights, if you live in a society that is repressive in the private realm,
00:34:35.720
that tries to censor you and to deplatform you and cancel you and even ruin your life because of
00:34:43.660
things that you say, then you do not live in a society that upholds free speech. You don't live
00:34:51.340
in a free society at all. If people are able to exert their social power to ruin your life because you
00:34:58.160
said something that you don't like. And if we don't have that ability to speak freely and to have these
00:35:03.680
dialogues and to say these unpopular things, well, then we're not going to be able to progress at all.
00:35:09.260
We're not going to be able to have any kind of functioning society at all. And I think it's
00:35:15.720
important to note because the pushback is always, well, you shouldn't be able to say things that
00:35:20.260
are hateful. That is what the First Amendment is for. That is what free speech is for. Like the principle
00:35:24.640
of free speech isn't to protect popular speech because no one wants to censor that. Free speech,
00:35:30.080
the protection of the First Amendment, which should have private implications as well, at least
00:35:34.460
in our own minds and how we can conduct ourselves and interact with one another. I mean, that is that's
00:35:41.800
the great thing about America. It has been a great thing about America. And there have been different
00:35:46.340
sides throughout American history who have tried to censor people right now. It is decidedly the left
00:35:51.000
that's doing that. But the way that America has advanced in the way of civil rights, in the way of
00:35:58.820
equality and liberty and justice for all is through free speech, is through allowing people with
00:36:04.440
dissenting opinions to be able to speak up. I mean, that is how, for example, the end of Jim Crow
00:36:12.580
happened. That is how desegregation happened. That is how all civil rights movements have happened.
00:36:18.640
People speaking up and being willing to say the unpopular thing. Not always in every situation,
00:36:23.660
the thing that the right agrees with or the thing that the left agrees with. But the person in the
00:36:29.920
minority who is willing to say the unpopular thing has always moved the needle. And if we don't have
00:36:35.620
that, if we don't have that, then we have tyranny. And that is kind of the society that we're living
00:36:40.120
under right now. We are technically free, but we're living under tyranny of the mob where people
00:36:44.920
aren't willing or just aren't able out of fear to say the unpopular, unorthodox thing that goes
00:36:51.500
against, for example, the ideology of Black Lives Matter, because they're afraid of losing their
00:36:55.800
jobs and they have to fight for their families. That is exactly what the far left wants. That is
00:37:01.800
the nature of leftism. That is the nature of communism and socialism. Like I've said before,
00:37:06.620
you're not going to find a communist or socialist society where there's freedom of religion and
00:37:11.420
freedom of speech. You're just not because it has to concentrate power. There can't be any dissent.
00:37:16.640
There can't be any source from which you find your values or you find your principles except for the
00:37:24.420
state. And so they have to silence all dissent. And they have to do so and will do so, by the way,
00:37:29.700
through violence. And if they can't do so through violence, because still in the United States,
00:37:34.380
for the most part, it's illegal to do that, they'll find other means and they will try to ruin
00:37:38.240
your life. And they simply believe it is all under the guise of compassion and love, intolerance and
00:37:48.140
inclusion that they are trying to silence ideas that they don't like because to them, facts and opposing
00:37:52.820
ideas are very offensive. Of course, in the midst of all of this, when we say, okay, we're not going to,
00:38:00.240
for example, talk about the biological, the physiological, the psychological implications
00:38:05.620
of pushing hormone treatment on young girls and boys. We're not going to talk about the effects
00:38:11.540
of Marxism. We're not going to talk about what systemic racism is. We're just going to accept
00:38:15.580
all of these things and move forward without any kind of critical thinking because we're scared of
00:38:20.940
dialogue and debate. What is at stake is objectivity itself. There is a very interesting tweet by someone
00:38:28.600
who describes herself as an educator named Brittany Marshall, and this was going around. And she says,
00:38:34.280
in reply to a conversation that included Nicole Hannah-Jones, who is the lead essayist in the
00:38:41.000
widely debunked 1619 project, she says, nope, the idea of two plus two equaling four is cultural.
00:38:47.020
And because of Western imperialism and colonization, we think of it as the only way of knowing.
00:38:54.120
What? What? Let's read this again. The idea of two plus two equaling four is cultural.
00:39:00.180
And because of Western imperialism and colonization, we think of it as the only way of knowing. And this
00:39:08.000
is an educator. What is that Orwell quote from 1984 that in the end, the party will insist that two plus
00:39:14.820
two equals five because it is the inevitable outcome of their philosophy, which seeks by way of thought
00:39:22.760
police and accusations of wrong think and new speak to not just limit our language, but limit consciousness,
00:39:30.700
limits any knowledge of objective reality. That is what we are seeing in real time. And it's absolutely
00:39:38.900
true that this is the outcome of the philosophy that says that facts are mean, that facts shouldn't be
00:39:44.840
discussed, that we shouldn't have logical conversations, that objective reality is somehow a system
00:39:52.180
of oppression and bringing up statistics is somehow bigoted. That is this is the end that two plus
00:39:59.420
two might not equal four and that all truth is object or is subjective. There was a very interesting
00:40:07.400
piece by Rod Dreher. I'm not totally sure how to pronounce his last name, but he is great. He wrote an
00:40:14.500
interesting book called The Benedict Option. It's a very interesting writer. And he wrote something in the
00:40:18.940
American conservative called the Kampf of the woke. Kampf, obviously, is German for struggle.
00:40:26.180
He talks about the micro bubble of the media, and it's how it's created this echo chamber that is
00:40:31.960
really pushing the ball down the field for leftism. Just this small minority of journalists in Washington
00:40:39.460
and New York who have no understanding of what life is like outside of their little bubble. He calls it
00:40:46.260
pack journalism. They're short on time, these journalists. They've got to get things out there
00:40:50.720
that will get clicks. So they just kind of imitate one another. They kind of echo one another. They
00:40:55.440
regurgitate or rewrite each other's thoughts. One person says it, and then it becomes a thing. And
00:41:00.700
then you've got every headline in NBC, Washington Post, New York Times, all writing about different
00:41:06.640
variations of the same argument. For example, taking down Mount Rushmore. That was not a thing a few years
00:41:12.660
ago. And then it became a thing that's true about so many leftist ideas. You say it, and then the
00:41:17.680
Overton window keeps moving over. Zach Goldberg had a tweet thread last year where he went to LexisNexis,
00:41:26.560
which is an online database that tells you how many times a phrase was used in a news article over time.
00:41:34.340
All the woke phrases that we know today, white privilege, diversity and inclusion, whiteness,
00:41:39.600
critical race theory, unconscious bias, systemic racism, diversity training, discrimination,
00:41:44.620
social justice, marginalized, people of color, racism, white supremacy, intersectionality started
00:41:50.040
to be used, started to be used at or after 2010. That's only 10 years ago, guys. These words and ideas
00:41:57.520
were not part of the public consciousness or dialogue 10 years ago. Ask yourself, are we really
00:42:03.280
better off right now than we were 10 years ago? Are we really more united right now than we were 10 years
00:42:08.640
ago? Some of them even later than 2010. They were almost completely unused. Before that, all of the
00:42:15.680
ideas that we're talking about that, again, are very nebulous and not really grounded in any kind of
00:42:20.000
objective definition. It's just whatever the powers that be want them to be able to use them as tools
00:42:25.140
to bludgeon you if you disagree with them. All of these ideas are very new. They're very novel.
00:42:31.400
And we are being told that if you don't buy into what these gender studies professors came up with
00:42:37.660
yesterday, then you're the bigot. Then you're the radical. And I always like to remind people that
00:42:42.260
you're not the radical for believing in biological sex. You're not the radical for believing in free
00:42:47.360
speech. You're not the radical for being anti-Marxist and for being pro-capitalist. You're not the radical
00:42:52.360
for believing in God and believing that as the creator of the heavens and the earth, that he has the
00:42:56.660
moral authority to tell us what is and what isn't, what's true and what's false and what's good and
00:43:01.040
what's bad. These are things that people who are a lot smarter than us believe for thousands and
00:43:05.940
thousands of years. And just yesterday, five minutes ago, the multicultural studies PhD, Robin
00:43:13.660
D'Angelo, says that, oh no, these things aren't true anymore. And all of a sudden, the mob has just
00:43:19.260
sicked themselves and anyone who disagrees with them and tells us that we are the bigots of the
00:43:23.720
radicals. They are the radicals. And just because they say that they are the ones on the right side
00:43:30.200
of history does not make that true. As we read that Booker T. Washington quote in the last episode,
00:43:36.580
someone saying that something is true doesn't make it true. Someone saying that something is right
00:43:41.480
doesn't make it right, no matter how many times you say it, no matter how hard you try to convince
00:43:46.080
someone. And we just have to remember to be grounded in that reality that we are not the radicals for
00:43:50.800
believing the things that people accepted for thousands of years before two seconds ago.
00:43:55.960
And again, what we're seeing is that while Obama was president, how many times, I mean,
00:44:01.520
have we talked about this? Have we walked through the studies that show that the left moved farther to
00:44:06.660
the left while Obama was president during those eight years? And they had the previous 25 years
00:44:11.080
on things like welfare, on immigration, on race, that Pew Research study from October 2017
00:44:17.240
that we analyzed that. It says in 1994, 39 percent of Democrats and 26 percent of Republicans believed
00:44:25.960
that, quote, discrimination is the main reason black people cannot get ahead. 39 percent of Democrats,
00:44:31.660
26 percent of Republicans. By 2010, it had reached a new low. 28 percent of Democrats and 9 percent of
00:44:38.960
Republicans believed that. By 2017, after eight years of Obama in office, 64 percent of Democrats
00:44:47.420
believed that discrimination is the main reason that black people can't get ahead. That percentage
00:44:51.860
jumped by 36 percent among Democrats while Obama was president. All-time low in 2010. We're measuring
00:45:00.000
1994 to 2017. All-time low in 2010 among Democrats. All-time high by far in 2017.
00:45:08.200
Now, we should ask ourselves, did America really get more racist while Obama was president? Did America
00:45:14.660
get more racist during a time that a black president was elected by a landslide twice? Did discrimination
00:45:20.760
really become worse during those eight years or more than that since 1994? Like, have we become more
00:45:28.540
racist since 1994? Is there evidence of that? And yet, the perspective on racism and discrimination has
00:45:35.840
changed drastically and changed the most drastically while Obama was president. And it is because, partly,
00:45:43.160
part of it is just shifting cultures, but it's partly because Obama pushed racial
00:45:47.740
identitarianism his entire time that he was in office, using every instance that involved people of different
00:45:53.280
races to drive the narrative that racism is worse than it's ever been. And the radical leftism that has been
00:46:00.520
pushed on college campuses for decades has begun to trickle into the political and cultural arenas. And now we are
00:46:06.480
starting to see the fullness of its manifestation in places like CHAZ, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. We are seeing in
00:46:15.380
real time, really, the manifestation of this ideology, not just in places like CHAZ, but everywhere. The breakdown and the
00:46:24.860
pushback of the very idea of objectivity and truth, the silencing of people who have counterpoints that
00:46:31.320
are based in fact, or even just counterpoints that are based in feelings or opinion, you are not allowed
00:46:36.340
to say. If your ideology depends on tyrannical censorship and the ruining of people's lives if they challenge it,
00:46:44.260
then you might need to question the strength of your ideology. Now, here's the question. The question is,
00:46:51.980
what do we do about all of this? What do we do about feeling like we are being, like, unpopular views
00:46:59.780
are being marginalized more than ever, like they are being pushed down and canceled simply because they
00:47:05.320
are unpopular? Is there anything that we can do? Like, can we do something in our HR departments? Can we do
00:47:14.420
something in our private and public life? Is there any way that we can push back on this kind of stuff?
00:47:19.780
There was a really good tweet thread by a woman who is in STEM who talked about her company wanting
00:47:25.080
to put out a statement about anti-racism and social justice and how she very effectively
00:47:30.100
changed the statement, helped change the statement from something that was filled with all of this kind
00:47:35.480
of nonsense, these words that just started being used in the past five years to mean something to a
00:47:42.600
statement that actually had grounding in reality. And the way she did that was she got involved in the
00:47:47.560
writing of the statement and she picked apart the first draft of the statement by asking questions.
00:47:52.980
That's something that we need to do. We need to demand or ask very persistently and kindly for people to
00:48:00.300
define their terms when we're talking about racism, for people to offer examples, for people to be very
00:48:06.300
clear and to be very specific in what we mean. For example, pastors who are talking about racism,
00:48:12.440
which I think, you know, is fine. We know that no one can love God and hate their brother, so hating
00:48:17.260
someone for any reason is wrong. So if the pastor wants to talk specifically about someone hating
00:48:22.300
someone because of the color of their skin, okay, I think that they need to be very specific in that.
00:48:27.860
We've got a lot of pastors, a lot of influencers who are just saying words because they've heard other
00:48:33.120
people say them, but they can't actually give specific examples of what that looks like. If a pastor
00:48:38.160
thinks that his congregation is racist, then he needs to point out to them specifically what that
00:48:43.360
means and specifically what they need to repent of. But these very nebulous conversations that just
00:48:48.460
this bubble and this echo chamber of a regurgitation of either facts that are missing a lot of context
00:48:57.460
and are missing the counterpoints or these just social justice narratives that don't actually have
00:49:05.340
any definable reality. They're not helpful. They're just not helping anyone. They're not moving us
00:49:10.800
towards progress, but they are moving us towards more censorship. But here's where I think that there
00:49:18.120
is where there is hope. One, like I said, asking questions, poking holes in things, asking specifically
00:49:25.260
what people mean by things, asking specifically, can you tell me, you know, what I said that was racist
00:49:31.920
and or what someone did that is racist or what is racist and being able to offer counterpoints to
00:49:38.800
that or just to have a conversation about that. So asking questions, not being afraid to ask questions,
00:49:44.620
make making people define their terms and also just being willing to say the unpopular thing.
00:49:50.540
And I understand for common folks that you're scared of losing your job and that's totally understandable.
00:49:55.680
But that is why that's why we need politicians to be speaking out like that is why we need all these
00:50:03.540
Republican senators and congressmen who have not said anything about the toppling of, for example,
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the statues of founders and Frederick Douglass and union soldiers who aren't saying anything about
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the cultural revolution that is clearly happening, the rioting and the mobs and the looting and the
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increased violence that we're seeing because of calls to abolish the police who are not speaking
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out against this Marxist revolution because they're scared of the mob themselves. Shame on them. Like you
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are elected officials. You are representatives of the people in your district, in your area that you
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represent. And it is your job to say the things that they're too scared of saying because they're scared
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of losing their jobs and having their lives ruined. Like it is up to the politicians and the pastors and the
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people of influence, not just conservative commentators like me, to say what's true and what's not and to push
00:50:55.720
back against dark ideas by offering the right ideas or offering different ideas. When people in power do that,
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when people in power are willing to represent and talk about criticisms against the mainstream, against the
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Marxist ideologies that we are seeing run rampant right now, it gives common folk cover. They feel like, okay, this is
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more mainstream. Politicians are talking about this. Commentators are talking about this. Pastors are
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talking about this. There are a lot of people with influence who are representing my views. And the more
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these things are talked about, the harder it is for an employer to say, wow, you're radical and extreme.
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You've got a really out there idea because there are so many people talking about it. So to those of you
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who are scared, you don't understand the effect that your words, even though you might feel like you
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don't have a lot of influence, have on the conversation and on the culture of free speech
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in general. There is a really interesting study by the scientists at Rensselaer, I don't know how to
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pronounce that, Rensselaer Polytechnic. They're members of the Social Cognitive Networks Academic Research
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Center. They used computational and analytical methods to discover the tipping point where a
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minority belief becomes the majority opinion. Physical Review E in an article titled, oh, it's in
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Physical Review E in an article titled, Social Consensus Through the Influence of Committed Minorities.
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And this is what they found. In general, people do not like to have an unpopular opinion. They're
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always seeking to try to locally, they're trying to seek to locally come to consensus. We set up
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this dynamic in each of our models that SCNARC, Research Associate and Corresponding Paper,
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author Samit Srinivasan. To accomplish this, each of the individuals and the models talked to each
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other about their opinion. If the listener held the same opinions as the speaker, it reinforced the
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listener's belief. If the opinion was different, the listener considered it and moved on to talk
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about another person. If that person also held this new belief, the listener then adopted that
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belief. As agents of change start to convince more and more people, the situation begins to change.
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People begin to question their own views at first, and they completely adopt the new view
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to spread it even further. If the true believers just influenced their neighbors, that wouldn't change
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anything within the larger system as we saw with percentages less than 10. But if the percentage
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of a country or society believes something, just 10%, is just 10%, then things can change.
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If you're willing to talk about it, if you're willing to have conversations, and I understand
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that it's difficult because we're up against a lot. You've got the left that is controlling
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the entire entertainment industry, most of the news media, all pretty much of main social
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media sites. You have them controlling academia. You have them controlling public schools. And so
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people are just indoctrinated with this anti-American Marxist nonsense constantly. And it is very hard
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to feel like you have a voice, but you don't know which flap of the butterfly wing is going to make
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a difference. You just don't. If only 10%, there's a lot more than 10% of people who are against Marxist
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ideology, who are against this nebulous social justice nonsense, who are against cancel culture,
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and who are for free speech. There's a lot more than 10% of us. There's half the country at least
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who believe these things or who believe at least a portion of these things. If we all said something
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and we all just stopped giving in to the cancellation culture, like if companies just
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stopped saying, you know, I'm not going to fire, I'm not going to fire my employee because you saw him
00:54:36.400
crack his knuckles and you thought that maybe he was a white supremacist, even though he's Hispanic.
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If corporations just stopped making statements and apologizing for things that they're not sorry for,
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and people stopped resigning for things that they said 10, 20 years ago that were perfectly
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legitimate arguments. Like if people would stop saying that they're racist when they know that
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they're not racist. If they would stop apologizing again for things that are not apology worthy.
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I'm not against people apologizing for things that they should actually apologize for. But if we just
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stopped capitulating to the ever-changing demands of the mob and we focused on loving God as Christians
00:55:17.160
and loving other people, doing our best to cultivate the world around us and to allow people to be free,
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even those that we disagree with, allow people to express their opinions, even those that we disagree
00:55:27.100
with without coming for them, then we would be a lot better off if we would just treat other people
00:55:32.740
how we want to be treated. I know that's a novel, uh, a novel idea. Then we would be a lot better off,
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even if we don't ever agree. But as we are right now, I'm just going to be honest. Like I don't see a
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way forward. I don't see a way forward for a unified country. If we are unable to say, you know what,
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here are our foundational commonalities. Like we might disagree on policy. We might disagree on social
00:55:59.040
issues, but at least we believe that all men are created equal and should be treated equally under
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the eyes of the law. We all believe in liberty and justice for all. We all love our country and we all
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want it to be better. Instead, we have people like, uh, Joe Biden, who is saying that when he becomes
00:56:17.780
president, that he's not just going to try to improve the country, but quote, he is going to
00:56:24.160
transform the country. And he's already talked about getting rid of school choice, trying to get
00:56:29.380
rid of charter schools. The, he is going to try to limit free speech, limit freedom of religion,
00:56:35.680
everything that you hold dear and that you see as good in your life, especially as a conservative
00:56:41.260
Christian, the administration of Joe Biden is going to try to get rid of because he's just going to be a
00:56:46.360
lame duck president that the far left ideologues, uh, try to use to push their, uh, far left views.
00:56:54.440
And we have Ilhan Omar as another example saying she's the Congresswoman from Minnesota. She said
00:57:03.180
that we need to, in order to move forward, dismantle the U S economy and political systems,
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which are tools of oppression. Now, Ilhan Omar is an immigrant from Somalia who came here as a refugee
00:57:15.460
and America gave her family refuge. And she was able to not just build a life with her family here
00:57:23.280
where she has become very successful, but she has also become a Congresswoman with one of the
00:57:29.660
leading voices on the democratic side of Congress. And she believes that America is inherently oppressive
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and unfair. I mean, I don't know a better example of America giving liberty and justice for all
00:57:42.780
than Ilhan Omar. Not only is she a refugee, but she also hates America. Like she talks,
00:57:50.380
she wants to dismantle America. And yet we have placed her in a position of power and given her
00:57:55.020
every opportunity in the world. I mean, she's a really good example that America really does allow
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not just, um, freedom and equality of opportunity, but also that we don't even punish you for hating
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the country. And people want to talk about this country being fascist and limiting people. I mean,
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that's just insane. There are, there's example after example of people defeating all odds and making
00:58:20.060
it in America that disprove this narrative that America is irrevocably and systemically and endemically
00:58:26.540
this oppressive place that only allows certain people to get ahead. Again, white people aren't the
00:58:31.680
most successful group in the country. So you're going to have to come up with a better argument than that.
00:58:35.460
But again, we're not allowed to have that conversation. We're not allowed to have that
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debate and dialogue because you're just silenced for it. But again, my encouragement to you is to
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speak up when and how you can, even if it's just poking holes and asking questions and making people
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define the things, um, that they believe, because you only need 10%. You only need 10% of society that is
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willing to speak up and say something before things actually change, saying no to cancel culture,
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refusing to play by their rules, refusing to virtue signal, refusing to repeat their mantras,
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refusing to just buy into things without thinking about them. You have to know who's driving the
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bandwagon before you hop on it, refuse to hopping on, uh, refuse to hop on the bandwagon
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and critically think and ask questions and engage in, uh, the debates that even people don't want to
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have. Okay. That is all for today. We will be back here on Monday.
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