Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 278

00:00:00.000 hey guys welcome to relatable happy wednesday okay today we are back in the saddle talking

00:00:17.440 about news and all the craziness that is going on in the world monday we kind of took a break

00:00:22.260 from that because you guys seemed like you were getting a little bit overwhelmed with all the

00:00:29.320 stuff that's going on which is completely understandable i feel like that often so

00:00:33.020 we talked about jeremiah 29 11 how it is often misused misinterpreted misapplied and we looked

00:00:42.180 at the context of the verse and what we found is that the true meaning of the text is so much

00:00:48.280 richer and so much better and so much more god glorifying than the superficial application of

00:00:55.100 the text that we typically see in people's instagram profiles for example so if you have not listened

00:01:01.040 to that episode i encourage you to go back and do that today we're going to talk about a few stories

00:01:06.620 we are going to talk about the president's recent interview with chris wallace on fox news some of

00:01:12.900 the things that were talked about there we're going to talk about going back to school in the fall if

00:01:19.260 that's something that needs to happen or not if we are putting teachers and people at risk we're going

00:01:25.960 to talk about the so-called secret police that some people are saying are crowding the streets or going

00:01:32.580 into the streets in places like portland and seattle and secretly kidnapping people and then we'll talk

00:01:38.520 about a few other things there was a pew study that came out that said do you have to believe in god to

00:01:43.700 be moral and the findings i thought were pretty interesting and then i will end with some

00:01:49.280 encouragement that i have been thinking about and that i listened to in a sermon over uh in a sermon

00:01:55.120 over the weekend okay let's first talk about this interview with chris wallace that happened over the

00:02:00.420 weekend you might have heard about it it was on fox news chris wallace is one of the news guys at

00:02:06.480 fox and he is really good at his job now a lot of people criticize chris wallace for being anti-trump for

00:02:12.640 being biased against trump and even biased against republicans that that might be true there certainly

00:02:18.240 have been things that he has said that i've you know i've kind of seen that bias come out however i

00:02:24.420 do believe that chris wallace is really good at his job he's one of those people that you want to

00:02:29.700 interview the person that you are trying to figure out because he's going to keep poking holes

00:02:34.880 and he doesn't get intimidated so i thought that this interview that he did with the president was good

00:02:40.680 now all the people who hate donald trump on the left all the democrats are saying that this was just

00:02:45.760 the takedown of the century i'm not so sure i i feel that way about the interview i did i did think

00:02:54.000 that chris wallace did a really good job of just kind of being unrelenting and pressing the president

00:02:59.200 on some things i'm sure the full episode is or the full interview is somewhere maybe on uh youtube but

00:03:06.100 while there were some good questions and some good pushback and it was very clear that the

00:03:13.120 president's feathers were a little bit ruffled at some at some point i also thought that chris wallace

00:03:18.700 brought some things up and said some things that were just demonstrably untrue so he said some false

00:03:24.360 things about covid and the covid reporting and things and things like that but he also mentioned and

00:03:30.220 this is going to bring us to a larger conversation he also talked about how um maybe maybe this

00:03:36.780 indoctrination that president trump is talking about happening in public schools isn't really happening so

00:03:42.440 i'll play you that short clip you said our children are taught in school to hate our country where do you

00:03:49.260 see that i just look at i look at school i watch i read look at the stuff now they want to change

00:03:56.240 of 1492 columbus discovered america you know we grew up you grew up we all did that's what we learned

00:04:02.040 now they want to make it the 1619 project where did that come from what does it represent i don't even

00:04:07.000 know so slavery that's what they're saying but they don't even know they just want to make a change

00:04:11.420 cancel culture i hate the term actually but i use it are they cancel people to hate oh i think so yeah i

00:04:17.360 think so so i understand that it's an interviewer's job to push back on on assertions and to ask the person

00:04:24.640 who made that assertion where he's getting that from and what the evidence is but it sounded like

00:04:31.240 he was casting doubt on that and that doubtful question that chris wallace asked the president

00:04:36.680 has been asked and repeated millions of times it seems like on social media by the left it's usually

00:04:43.340 accompanied by uh by the same kind of question where is cancel culture there's no cancel culture

00:04:49.000 after president trump's speech in south dakota in front of mount rushmore there were people saying

00:04:54.020 culture war what is president trump talking about culture war that's also when he talked about the

00:04:59.880 indoctrination happening in public schools and people were saying indoctrination in public schools

00:05:05.400 what are you talking about of course indoctrination is happening in public schools you can ask many

00:05:11.560 wonderful christian conservative public school teachers and they will tell you that not only is the

00:05:17.220 curriculum just in a lot of ways a historical doesn't cover enough ground it doesn't cover the right

00:05:22.340 ground a lot of the school systems and the school administrations are encouraging teachers to teach

00:05:28.400 activism to teach uh leftist ideas of what gender and sexuality and the makeup of the family should be

00:05:36.200 at a very young age that indoctrination is happening the i uh the idea of uh you know macro evolution

00:05:44.080 that's being taught from a young age and even anti-america propaganda this idea that america is inherently

00:05:51.200 very bad that we were built only on racism that we were built only on slavery and really in order to

00:05:57.420 have a good country we have to have some kind of revolution and you have to be a young activist there

00:06:02.740 is also a separation that happens and a lot of public school systems between the parents and their

00:06:08.320 children for example in places like california and even in other states there is a policy that says

00:06:14.900 okay if six-year-old little kindergartner sally comes to school one day and says you know i'm actually i don't

00:06:20.980 feel like i'm a girl anymore i feel like i'm a boy and i want to be called ben then the teacher has to

00:06:27.840 call that child by the new program uh but by the new pronouns you know he him call him uh his call her

00:06:36.440 his uh new preferred name ben and he the teacher does not have to tell the parents and so there is

00:06:42.380 a separation happening between um between children and their parents due in large part to the public

00:06:49.800 school system and we talked about this when we were looking at the harvard professor who was hosting a

00:06:56.020 conference was supposed to host a conference in june about the dangers of homeschooling she wrote a

00:07:01.320 whole piece about the dangers of homeschooling how it's very authoritarian for parents to be in charge

00:07:08.140 of their child's education and it's very dangerous because they might indoctrinate them with right-wing

00:07:14.660 christian values so you're saying the parents shouldn't have the right to have authority over

00:07:20.480 their children or be able to teach and instruct and so-called indoctrinate their children with their

00:07:25.460 family's values but teachers who don't really have any vested interest in that child's life they should

00:07:33.520 be the ones indoctrinating them they should be the ones to have final authority over them they should

00:07:39.380 be the ones that are teaching them values that the parents might not agree with either way a child

00:07:45.880 is going to have authority over them either way a child is going to have influence over them they are

00:07:50.420 going to be if you want to call it indoctrinated or instructed or instilled with particular values

00:07:56.740 that's going to happen no matter what because a child is formidable their mind is malleable they

00:08:01.840 don't have a worldview yet they don't have principles they don't have values they have to be

00:08:06.460 taught those things so should those things be taught and should that authority be recognized

00:08:14.420 to the parents of the child to the people who would lay their life down for that child who would do

00:08:21.700 anything for that child who brought the child into the world has loved that child with a heartbreaking

00:08:28.420 unconditional love every second of that child's life or should that authority be given to teachers

00:08:36.000 who might care about their children in the same way that they care about all students but at the end of

00:08:42.700 the day they're not thinking about them they're not going to be the ones taking care of them when they

00:08:47.020 get sick they didn't bring them home from the hospital they might cry a little bit if that child dies

00:08:52.760 but it's not going to wreck them for the rest of their life so which one should it be the parents who care

00:08:57.600 about this child more than more than any non-parent could ever even even fathom or these teachers

00:09:05.580 who just have a job to do and are getting paid a salary who again might care for the students but

00:09:13.020 not nearly as much not even a fraction as much as the parents ever will who gets to teach values who

00:09:19.920 gets to so-called indoctrinate who should be able to instruct with the principles and the morality

00:09:25.540 that this child will then carry with them for the rest of their lives i think it should be the

00:09:29.600 parents but to even have professors and academics saying oh this whole idea of the parent-child

00:09:35.780 relationship it's actually you know it's something that was created it was something that was inferred

00:09:42.020 or conferred upon them by the state and if the state takes that away then there really is no grounds for

00:09:49.040 this parent-child relationship parent shouldn't have final authority over a child that is that idea

00:09:55.860 is getting more and more mainstream on the left and it's a communistic idea it's been around for a long

00:10:01.340 time we've talked about a book called um let's see is it dang it i forgot the i forgot the name of the

00:10:07.560 book but it's by a communist sophie lewis who basically argues that um all pregnancies should be paid

00:10:16.860 surrogacy and should be they should be paid gestators women should be compensated for the work of

00:10:23.660 gestating a child growing a child inside of them and it shouldn't actually belong to them it should

00:10:29.760 be it should belong to the community the child should belong to him or herself she would say and

00:10:35.620 she is a communist this is a communistic idea to try to break apart all family units any kind of

00:10:42.340 hierarchy anywhere where someone can get a value system besides the state has to be broken up in

00:10:49.800 this communist society so this idea that a parent doesn't have full authority shouldn't have full

00:10:56.160 authority and care for their child shouldn't be fully responsible for indoctrinating or instilling

00:11:03.280 values into their child is a communistic left-wing idea that unfortunately is getting more and more

00:11:08.360 popular and is infecting public schools so to go back chris wallace saying oh is this really happening

00:11:14.980 where do you see this happening this is happening everywhere again i know that there are so many

00:11:18.940 wonderful public school teachers out there and we'll be talking more about this on friday i'm going to

00:11:23.700 talk to an expert on school choice and public schooling and the importance of charter schools and private

00:11:29.180 schools we're going to talk about all that kind of stuff on friday but i just wanted to touch on it here

00:11:33.600 because it's something that i'm i'm so passionate about for people to say oh this isn't really

00:11:38.720 happening in public schools i mean that's gaslighting it is happening there are so many wonderful public

00:11:43.480 school teachers that you are doing the best job that you possibly can but you probably feel unless you

00:11:49.360 are in just a very very conservative district you probably feel like your hands are tied there are

00:11:53.960 certain things you can't say there are certain things you can't teach about there are certain things

00:11:57.320 that you are compelled to teach that you don't actually believe whether it's the way that you are told to

00:12:02.280 teach or what you're actually told to teach unfortunately the public school system is

00:12:06.440 largely corrupt because of the teachers unions i mean that's part of why we're seeing for example

00:12:11.760 teachers and teachers unions saying specifically in places like la that you cannot make me come to

00:12:20.180 school this fall because it is putting myself and it's putting my family at risk and well they actually

00:12:27.120 don't say that they actually say it's for the children they're putting we're putting the

00:12:31.260 children at risk when in reality children have a very very low chance of even contracting the

00:12:37.200 coronavirus and that even if they do they have a very very low chance of dying from the coronavirus

00:12:41.760 actually the death rate for coronavirus among young kids is lower than the death rate from the flu

00:12:49.240 and they're susceptible to the flu every year and we don't close down we don't close down the schools

00:12:53.820 and actually if you are someone who is likely to for example be in the icu because of coronavirus you

00:13:01.880 may also be susceptible to other kinds of viruses that again are circulating year-round i'm not saying

00:13:08.120 there is no danger to the coronavirus and certainly if you're someone who is in a high risk category you

00:13:13.080 may have more reason to be concerned but there are viruses that are circulating every year in these

00:13:18.660 schools and we don't shut down the schools because there was a time in our lives where we weighed the

00:13:25.040 pros and cons but now because coronavirus has become so political we have said okay trump and trumpians

00:13:33.620 are the ones who want to send kids to school everyone else doesn't want to send kids to school and that

00:13:38.000 is how we determine what's right and what's wrong but that's dumb i mean that's that's not what we should

00:13:42.860 be doing we should be weighing the pros and cons the fact of the matter is is that kids are at a low

00:13:48.320 risk of contracting this they're at a very very very low risk of becoming seriously ill and dying of

00:13:54.200 course it's it's possible there's a small chance but like i said there's also a possibility that they

00:13:59.440 could contract the flu and die every year tragically and so we have to look at the benefits as well we

00:14:05.680 know that kids need socialization we know that they need instruction so that they're not falling behind

00:14:10.940 we know that they need some kind of you know organized recreation and look i am a huge fan of

00:14:17.640 homeschooling and if a child has access to good homeschooling if their parents are able to do

00:14:23.640 that then i think that's awesome i say don't send your kids to public school ever again that's my

00:14:27.660 preference that everyone would be able to homeschool but i understand that's not feasible for everyone

00:14:31.740 especially low-income families so kids of low-income families where maybe both parents are working and

00:14:38.960 it's just not possible for a parent to quit their job what are those children supposed supposed to do

00:14:45.060 it's very unlikely for them to be seriously negatively and long-term impacted by the coronavirus

00:14:51.680 they're supposed to what stay home by themselves while their parents go work their parents who can't

00:14:57.420 afford child care they're supposed to fall behind in school they're not supposed to get the socialization

00:15:04.160 that they need and a lot of these kids unfortunately are susceptible to child abuse they're susceptible to

00:15:10.660 molestation because they're at home with maybe relatives or friends for long periods of time

00:15:16.840 or even siblings for long periods of time without any respite and unfortunately they are made more

00:15:24.360 vulnerable to those kinds of abuses and for a lot of kids school is a safe haven i've got a lot of

00:15:31.920 complaints about public school and the public school system and how they run things and unfortunately

00:15:36.460 the abuses that even public schools perpetuate but i understand for a lot of kids especially low

00:15:42.080 income kids especially kids that are in vulnerable situations like school is their refuge it's their

00:15:48.700 safe haven it's their only place where they feel like they have any purpose they have any structure

00:15:53.860 they have any discipline they have anyone who even cares about them and we're just taking that away

00:15:58.640 because of a virus that very rarely affects them in a very negative way so this is not about the

00:16:06.240 children i know i understand that for a lot of teachers out there i always want to make this

00:16:10.100 caveat it might be about the children you just i don't know maybe you feel like the risk is too high

00:16:14.960 for your children but for a lot of teachers this is this is for themselves and i'm not saying that you

00:16:20.920 shouldn't care about your health at all you shouldn't care about your family's health because

00:16:24.700 certainly i do and i would if if i were you too but we look at a place like la where the teachers union

00:16:31.740 is saying we'll go back to school if you pass medicare for all what and then a bunch of other

00:16:39.100 policy prescriptions that have nothing to do with health care nothing to do with coronavirus okay so

00:16:43.260 it's not about the virus at all because getting medicare for all and getting all of these other

00:16:47.280 leftist wishlist items is not going to stop you from getting the coronavirus so it's not the virus

00:16:52.520 that you're scared of you're using this as political leverage you're using children's lives

00:16:56.860 as political leverage and unfortunately this is par for the course for the teachers unions

00:17:02.800 teachers unions are completely corrupt and they run in many cases the democratic party i've talked to

00:17:09.600 you about this before i think i don't i think it was little tyrants everywhere the episode where we

00:17:14.220 talked about rubber rooms for example this is where failed teachers or teachers who were even fired

00:17:20.720 for things like sexual assault or sexual harassment a lot of times these teachers are still protected

00:17:26.000 and they go into these places called rubber rooms where they're basically given an assignment to

00:17:30.420 file papers and they might be there for 20 years so they are fired from the school but they are still

00:17:36.580 receiving a taxpayer salary i talked to you about uh this guy who has had um it was in new york and i can

00:17:43.680 i can look up the specific name of of who he is it was in a new york post article again i think it's in

00:17:49.240 that episode little tyrants everywhere where i was just stunned reading the story he got fired from a high

00:17:54.960 school i think it was in new york for sexual harassment and then instead of just um you know

00:18:00.580 being let go for forever from the teaching community he was sent to one of these rubber rooms to file

00:18:07.300 papers and over 20 years his salary didn't just remain the same since he got fired from this school

00:18:13.880 it actually doubled to where he was pulling in six figures doing nothing every day after getting

00:18:19.440 fired from a school for sexual harassment this is the teachers union this is what teachers unions do

00:18:25.160 they insulate bad teachers they have low standards of competence low standards of intelligence for

00:18:30.820 many teachers and they prevent them from getting fired i understand that maybe in some cases teachers

00:18:38.120 unions have good purposes but unfortunately we see their values manifest themselves not just in protecting

00:18:46.180 bad teachers in these rubber rooms and just the ongoing corruption of public schools uh but also

00:18:51.800 in leveraging kids as political pawns saying oh we'll go back to school in the fall if you give us

00:18:57.300 this policy leftist wish list i mean it's insane it's insane so here's my thing about public school

00:19:04.200 teachers that are worried about going back to school which again i understand i'm not in your situation

00:19:08.880 and i would be concerned for my family too you have every right to be concerned but look there have been

00:19:14.580 essential workers that have never stopped working there have been grocery store clerks that have never

00:19:20.320 stopped working they were deemed essential workers so every day through the pandemic they have been going to

00:19:26.120 work to provide for their families at the risk of themselves they were deemed essential so they were

00:19:34.280 not just allowed to go to work but they were required to go to work you as a public school teacher

00:19:41.320 are considered at least what i hear an essential worker and so if you are an essential worker you have

00:19:49.700 the same responsibility and the same risk to take on as any other essential worker now if you want to tell

00:19:56.280 me that's not true then that must mean that public schools teachers are not essential so are they essential

00:20:02.620 are they not if public school teachers are essential then they should be held to the same standard as any

00:20:07.520 other essential worker and they need to go into school like everyone else because the benefit of

00:20:12.460 the children your who are supposed to be your customers and your clients outweighs the risks uh to uh to

00:20:20.460 them due to the coronavirus so if you are essential that needs to be your responsibility and the risk that

00:20:26.680 you take on now if you're in a high risk category if a family member is in a high risk category i agree

00:20:31.680 like you need a substitute teacher you need to be able to teach from home whatever but if you are

00:20:37.640 non-essential workers if you're trying to say that you shouldn't be held to the same standard as other

00:20:43.100 essential workers and you should be able to stay at home if you're non-essential okay well then we need

00:20:49.040 to take the taxpayer money that is going to you and we need to give it to the families in need that's what

00:20:55.020 needs to happen if they're essential they need to go to work if they're non-essential we need to take the

00:20:59.780 money that is typically going to these public schools who are no longer really doing the

00:21:05.020 instructing i mean there's just really no way you can instruct a bunch of nine-year-olds via skype we

00:21:11.820 need to take that money and we need to give it to the families who need it so those are those are

00:21:16.440 the two options here in in my opinion and look i'm happy that there are families who are seeing the

00:21:23.140 benefits of homeschool like i said there is apparently this uptick in micro schools where

00:21:28.140 parents are getting together with other families and they're using someone's house to do um homeschool

00:21:34.780 together and i think that's great like i would love if that is the trend and if public school

00:21:39.860 just at least the way it is it just completely diminishes but i understand that's unrealistic for

00:21:46.340 a lot of low-income people not everyone can afford private schools not everyone can do the whole

00:21:51.400 micro schooling not everyone can do homeschooling so public schools need to get their act together

00:21:56.280 i say that we need to abolish teachers unions i'm sorry i know that's a radical position nowadays

00:22:01.600 we need to abolish teachers unions not only would the corrupt and terrible incompetent teachers

00:22:08.100 hopefully get fired um but also i think you would see a shift in the democratic in the democratic

00:22:15.320 party because a lot of the policies a lot of the decisions that they made that they make is not based

00:22:19.820 on children it is based on the teachers unions who many times do not have the children's concerns

00:22:25.420 in mind now so well i want to circle back so all of that to say people who say like chris wallace or

00:22:34.000 anyone on on the left that oh indoctrinated in schools or um corruption in public schools this

00:22:41.200 is not really a thing it's not really something you need to be concerned about or anyone who says oh

00:22:45.640 you know this is about the children not sending them back to school in the fall they're all gaslighting

00:22:50.680 you it was great msnbc had this segment where they asked a bunch of doctors would you send your kids

00:22:56.100 back to school and i assumed that they assumed that all the doctors would say no no no every single

00:23:02.180 doctor that they had on said yes i would send my kid back to school absolutely without any questions

00:23:08.440 because even doctors realize that they're at a low risk now you can implement policies social distance

00:23:14.260 i still think that's a dumb phrase but we all just use it social distance if you want to wear a mask

00:23:19.460 wear a mask but you have to allow these children um you have to allow these children who need to go

00:23:25.880 back to school to go back to school and parents who want to homeschool their kids homeschool their

00:23:30.700 kids parents who want to send their kids to private school i think that now is absolutely the time and

00:23:35.920 just a side note as i always like to encourage parents now is the time christian parents for you to be

00:23:42.420 teaching your kids theology for you to make sure that your kids understand the fundamentals of their

00:23:48.680 faith who made them who made the universe therefore who is the authority over the universe what he says

00:23:54.960 morality is what he says the truth is what he says justice is you need to make sure you know these

00:24:00.980 things you need to make sure that your children know these things because they are going out as

00:24:05.120 sheeps among as sheep among wolves every day especially if they are going to public school and so

00:24:10.600 you need to be the ones to be equipping them because uh there is a leftist force that is coming

00:24:16.900 for your authority over your children they are coming for the uh the minds of your children so make sure

00:24:22.600 that you are exercising the authority that you still freely have right now well that you are stewarding

00:24:29.360 this gift of parenting well and i have a whole list of resources for not just parents um but christians

00:24:36.460 of all types if you go to allybethstucky.com slash blog allybethstucky.com slash blog you will see the

00:24:43.800 only post that's on there right now and that is a list of resources that's a list of resources for

00:24:48.020 you to read so you have a good understanding of all of these things but i also have a few resources

00:24:52.580 specifically for children and teaching children theology and the basics of their faith so make sure

00:24:57.720 that you go check that out okay i also want to talk about speaking of parents i want to talk about

00:25:04.220 this group moms against brutality so i'm going to um i'll put a picture up on the screen of this group

00:25:12.080 moms against brutality so this is happening in major cities specifically places like portland

00:25:18.600 where a group of so-called moms we don't know if they're actually all moms but a group of women who

00:25:24.600 are calling themselves moms against brutality they are standing between the police and these rioters and

00:25:31.980 looters now if you read any leftist publication they're saying oh these moms are heroes they're

00:25:37.880 standing up against police brutality they are using themselves as human shields between these

00:25:42.900 very peaceful protesters and demonstrators and these evil police who were just trying to take them down

00:25:50.020 for defending democracy so let me just let you in on a little bit on a little secret what i have

00:25:56.460 deduced from reading multiple articles about this this is not real this is a pr war so the articles

00:26:06.600 that are all saying these are peaceful demonstrators they're lying there are peaceful demonstrators or at

00:26:11.580 least there were i don't even know if there are any peaceful protests going on anymore about this there

00:26:17.600 there might be and there are peaceful people among them but these so-called demonstrators that are in

00:26:23.420 these major cities are very violent like people die people lost their lives in so-called chop the

00:26:29.460 capitol hill i don't even know what op stands for it was capitol hill autonomous zone when it was called

00:26:35.300 chaz but then it was chop and people literally like an african-american 16 year old lost his life not

00:26:42.820 due to police brutality not due to some outsider coming in and shooting the place up but the members of

00:26:49.840 chaz they're violent people they are wrecking their cities they are ruining businesses let me just play

00:26:57.900 you a couple clips of these so-called peaceful demonstrators

00:27:01.480 so the last clip that you saw was

00:27:31.460 in seattle they were looting an amazon store so this is this is all very peaceful stuff very

00:27:39.540 normal stuff this is all justice right like this is definitely accomplishing justice um so they don't

00:27:47.300 the the left doesn't want you to see these videos certainly antifa doesn't want you to see these videos

00:27:52.160 they want you to believe that they are peaceful freedom fighters that they are fighting against racism

00:27:56.840 they're fighting against injustice and they're just doing it completely peacefully that's not what's

00:28:02.400 happening that's not what's happening i um i highly encourage you to follow andy no on that's ngo is

00:28:10.780 his last name on twitter i mean he is constantly tweeting out videos of what's happening in portland

00:28:17.540 in seattle in new york city i mean these people are completely ravaging these areas with violence

00:28:24.340 and vandalism it's absolute lawlessness and the city officials have completely

00:28:30.040 emasculated and weakened the local police departments to where they can't do anything

00:28:36.160 and so lawlessness is just running rampant and then the city officials are all pretending like it's all

00:28:42.140 perfectly fine it's all an illusion it's an illusion and mom's against brutality by creating this human

00:28:49.820 shield it's a pr war so what happens as they make these human shields and what's happening behind

00:28:55.700 them is violence and vandalism and burning down buildings and then the police that are in many

00:29:01.500 cases um in front of them these are now federal police which we'll talk about in just a second in

00:29:07.640 front of them who are trying to stop the violence that's happening behind the moms against brutality say

00:29:12.620 they use tear gas or something like that then the picture looks like these police officers are

00:29:20.820 attacking the moms against brutality and it looks really bad pr wise for the people who are on the

00:29:27.820 side of law in order it looks like we have um what antifa would call some fascist dictatorship where

00:29:34.800 the police are using violence against peaceful protesters that's not what's happening violence lawlessness

00:29:40.720 is running rampant in these cities thanks to the weakness of local officials and so what president

00:29:47.860 trump has done is he has sent uh federal police federal authorities into some of these places to help

00:29:56.100 clamp down on the lawlessness and then you have city officials say no no no no don't do that don't do

00:30:01.240 that we don't need that okay well from your place of private security and privilege miss mayor of

00:30:09.820 seattle or portland or mr mayor of new york city that's really easy for you to say what about the

00:30:15.960 people whose businesses are being ruined whose lives are are being risked i mean what about the good and

00:30:22.840 the welfare of your city if you aren't going to handle this if you're not going to allow the police to do

00:30:28.460 their jobs then the federal government has to come in and do something about it and look i am completely

00:30:34.220 against i'm completely against any kind of force or any kind of hindrance or inhibition against peaceful

00:30:41.800 protesters i am and if that's what's happening i am also going to be the one to come out and say

00:30:47.640 that's not right because i understand if i were peacefully protesting or someone was peacefully protesting

00:30:52.420 for a cause that i believed in and a democratic president sent police officers out there to stop them

00:30:59.280 from peacefully protesting of course i would be saying the same thing this is a fascist dictatorship

00:31:04.020 and so wherever that is happening wherever there are peaceful protesters and there are rubber bullets

00:31:08.900 flying from the police there's tear gas um coming from the police and apparently there has been

00:31:14.360 mixed reports of that happening across the country i am absolutely against that but where lawlessness

00:31:21.340 and violence and vandalism is running rampant and is risking the lives and the safety and the livelihoods

00:31:29.140 of the law abiding citizens that live in that area i do believe that as a last resort as a last resort

00:31:36.140 it is the role of the federal government to come in and say stop stop like we have to we have to do

00:31:42.740 something about the welfare of this community we have to do something about lawlessness or else we do

00:31:48.020 live in an anarchy and by the way if you look at the profiles of a lot of these antifa members they call

00:31:54.280 themselves anarcho-socialists and so they are for anarchy that is what they're trying to create and if

00:32:00.640 we believe that um the government exists for anything like you can be a libertarian and believe in the

00:32:06.880 smallest government in the world and still believe that at some point the federal government has the

00:32:11.660 right and the responsibility to help the country be uh be in order to help the country be safe again as a

00:32:20.280 last resort now people like aoc and other politicians mostly on the left although rampala said something

00:32:26.860 too that we shouldn't be having unidentified police in unidentified cars kidnapping people taking them

00:32:34.560 and putting them somewhere i agree with that however every picture of the police that i have seen

00:32:40.800 in places like portland and seattle have all been in uniform and have had police on the front of their

00:32:48.940 uniform so i don't know if the problem is that it's just not identifiable enough aoc is apparently

00:32:56.320 trying to pass some legislation that says that police officers should always have to identify

00:33:02.580 themselves i'm not totally sure i'm not totally sure how i feel about that i am always for more

00:33:08.880 transparency and i of course i don't think we should have a gestapo like a gestapo i don't think that we

00:33:14.360 need to have a secret police of course i don't believe that the police should be kidnapping people

00:33:19.620 in unidentified cars i don't care if the person is an anarcho-socialist i don't care if the person

00:33:25.100 is rioting and looting and doing these things that they shouldn't be doing i don't believe secret

00:33:29.600 police should be grabbing people and putting them in secret cars but i'm not so sure that's what's

00:33:33.840 actually happening it sounds like they want the police to come up to someone to shake their hand and

00:33:39.060 say okay like hey my name is roger rodriguez like would you mind if i took you in my car and i put

00:33:46.880 you away in jail just like for a second just for a little bit because you kind of broke the law like

00:33:51.700 it sounds like that is the expectation coming from a lot of people on the left from these federal

00:33:58.160 officers and i just don't agree with that i agree that it should be humane i agree that we should never

00:34:03.740 inhibit any kind of peaceful protesting i agree that no one should be kidnapped and put in a in a

00:34:09.440 secret car i agree that there should be some kind of identity it should say police in some in in some

00:34:16.360 way on these uniforms but i also believe that there is a role as a last resort from the federal government

00:34:25.200 to come in and to make sure that law in order is being carried out um where lawlessness is existing

00:34:33.720 and unfortunately in these major cities lawlessness is existing now the interesting thing is about

00:34:39.500 these people who are saying oh this is this is fascist this is this is too much which it's it's not

00:34:45.000 fascist by the way they call any you like any law in order any use of the military whatsoever any use of

00:34:52.340 a police officer whatsoever as fascist like you understand that most the vast majority of violent

00:34:59.300 protesters violent protesters have been able to go on and on for weeks with impunity like you're allowed

00:35:06.920 to say anything about the president of the united states anything about any elected official that you

00:35:11.620 want with total impunity and you're talking about living in a fascist state that's insane that's insane i

00:35:19.520 also want to show you this video of so-called demonstrators in chicago um hurling things at the police there

00:35:28.300 so mayor lightfoot of chicago another in the running for world's worst mayor along with bill de blasio

00:35:48.000 i mean she has she has completely failed her city if you look at the numbers of murder in chicago highest

00:35:56.100 that it has been in decades weekend after weekend babies dying children dying teenagers dying almost

00:36:03.700 all of these victims by the way are black americans almost all of the perpetrators unfortunately are black

00:36:11.240 americans in chicago and mayor lightfoot is allowing this lawlessness to go on by again impeding the police

00:36:19.280 department by not focusing on these things by trying to redirect attention away from herself and her

00:36:26.600 incompetence and towards the administration she actually tweeted out because kaylee mcadeney the press

00:36:32.120 secretary talked about uh mayor lightfoot's dereliction of duty which is exactly correct and mayor lightfoot

00:36:38.880 had the audacity to tweet at her and say hey karen watch your mouth okay okay mayor lightfoot like let's use

00:36:48.180 let's use a racial slur at the very least a condescending slur towards the press secretary when people are

00:36:56.000 being murdered at the highest rates in recent history in chicago on your watch on your watch and and they're

00:37:05.120 also throwing a lot of these people are throwing projectiles at the police who are supposed to be

00:37:10.720 empowered to protect the communities that are absolutely being decimated by violence and they're tearing

00:37:16.140 down statues as you saw in the video and all of that it's just an absolute mess so anyone who tells you

00:37:21.980 that oh all these demonstrations are just so peaceful it's just about justice they're lying again and it's

00:37:28.280 sad because like i said there are so many people who are sincerely wanting to have a conversation about

00:37:35.000 transparency in the police who are sincerely wanting to talk about injustice who are sincerely talking about

00:37:41.480 reform but they're being drowned out by the chaos and president trump is simply trying to say okay at

00:37:47.980 some point like we've got to protect the citizens the law-abiding citizens of these communities who are

00:37:53.620 being negatively affected by this violence and this chaos so i've got to send some federal help in it's all

00:37:59.140 just such a crazy such a crazy situation now i've asked this before and i'll ask it again are we headed

00:38:08.360 for some kind of civil war i really hope not i really hope not like i think there are some people

00:38:14.500 who want that who are like you know i just want the country to split up and i don't desire that as i've said

00:38:21.460 i love america i love the union i love the united states of america i don't want to split up i don't want

00:38:27.580 violence i don't want a war i don't even want a country that is all ideologically aligned with me

00:38:32.620 i probably differ from a lot of liberals who would say you know it would just be so much better if we

00:38:38.880 didn't have anyone who is conservative in our country i don't feel that way i actually feel even

00:38:43.440 though i so drastically disagree with leftists on pretty much everything i think that it's important

00:38:51.420 to have two different sides to a debate like i think it's important for there to be tug of war when

00:38:56.980 it comes to policies when it comes to ideas and because we have different priorities we have

00:39:02.420 different outlooks and again while i disagree with them i do think competing perspectives are

00:39:07.360 important in a thriving republic the problem is as i've talked about we don't even have we don't have

00:39:13.380 any shared foundational values anymore it was at one point that the majority of people believed

00:39:21.160 that we were all made by a creator who gave us inalienable rights among them being life liberty

00:39:27.360 and the pursuit of happiness and any policy that allows america to get closer to that ideal

00:39:33.220 of liberty and justice for all of treating everyone under the eyes of the law equally and promoting

00:39:41.120 liberty promoting the general welfare even if we had different ideas of what that looked like

00:39:46.000 at least at the end of the day we could go back to the constitution and go back to the

00:39:49.960 declaration of independence and say okay we agree on these values and we're proud of america and the

00:39:56.280 progress that she has made we are glad to be americans and we just want what's best so let us

00:40:03.180 have a debate let us have a conversation of whose ideas are better it's just not like that anymore you've

00:40:08.840 got one side who's who has a radical wing i won't say it is the entirety of the left at all but has a

00:40:16.680 radical wing in it that is not being decried by the rest of the party that is saying no we want the

00:40:22.780 abolition of the united states like we don't want a prison system at all we don't want a justice system

00:40:27.780 at all we don't want police at all we think that the constitution is actually bad because it was all

00:40:33.820 built on slavery and racism in white supremacy we actually believe that the founding ideals are

00:40:38.960 completely moot we don't believe at all in um the the goodness or the goodness of the ideas of the

00:40:46.320 founding fathers there was a pretty troubling um a troubling fox news poll that came out over the

00:40:52.880 weekend i believe it was that said that only 63 percent of the population sees the founding fathers as

00:40:59.600 heroes there is a large percentage of people who unfortunately see the founding fathers as villains

00:41:04.540 and it gets worse as uh the younger you go as is so typical in all of these in all of these kinds

00:41:11.060 of polls it's like the 18 to 29 year olds consistently just have the worst and the most

00:41:16.840 factless ideas about what the world should look like and what the world does look like it's one thing to

00:41:22.480 say okay yes the founding fathers were flawed and they were maybe hypocritical in creating these kinds

00:41:29.280 of founding documents that talk about equality and justice and liberty and they didn't live that way

00:41:34.100 themselves because they were slaveholders so you can make that argument and still say but their ideas

00:41:39.560 created the most prosperous and freest and the most equitable and the most tolerant society in the

00:41:45.240 history of the world in such a short period of time you can go back and listen to my episode i think

00:41:50.500 it's called why america is great right before fourth of july the details all that stuff that's one thing

00:41:55.020 i agree with you that the founding fathers were not they were not gods they were not you know divine they

00:42:00.900 were very flawed human beings they were fallible finite human beings like you and i are they had

00:42:06.280 clear hypocrisies in their life but hypocrisies which were very common throughout the entirety of

00:42:12.360 the world in that day and for several decades afterwards in different parts of the world

00:42:17.600 but to say that they are villains and their ideas are villainous and that their ideas are bad and

00:42:25.560 therefore the declaration of independence and the constitution and all of the ideals and the values upon

00:42:29.960 which we were founded are bad well we we can't go forward that way because you've got an entire

00:42:35.380 side of the country at least half the country who doesn't think that way at all who agrees that yes

00:42:40.840 our history is flawed yes we have grave sins in our past but the progress that we've made is incredible

00:42:47.800 and we should be proud of that and we should always be striving to get closer and closer to our ideals

00:42:52.040 not obliterate our ideals if we can't even agree on the foundations of our society and what they are

00:42:58.260 and whether or not they are good if freedom is good if liberty and justice for all are good if we can't

00:43:03.940 even agree on what justice is and apparently now we can't even agree on the fact that two and two

00:43:08.640 objectively make four you've got people even nicole hannah jones the lead essayist in the in the 1619

00:43:15.420 project of the new york times has said has talked about this idea of two plus two equaling four

00:43:21.640 actually being something about hegemonic hegemonic power or something crazy like that i mean you've

00:43:28.360 got people who legitimately believe that objectivity is a product of whiteness and white supremacy like

00:43:36.140 we just cannot come together as a society like that if we keep going like this where we are so divided

00:43:44.000 on principle we are so divided on foundational values we cannot get along uh we cannot think

00:43:50.760 the best of one another at all we are divided by race we are so divided by socioeconomic class we are

00:43:55.800 divided by basic values and worldview that we cannot come together on any fundamental commonality then

00:44:05.040 we can't be cohesive we're going to be vulnerable and we will fall we we will fall and i don't if the

00:44:13.120 path to peace at least for some of us is a separation of the country to where okay you know all the

00:44:20.700 people who believe in socialism can go there and all the people who believe in freedom in capitalism

00:44:28.260 in the tenets of our uh of our country can come here then maybe that's the direction i don't see how

00:44:35.860 that's feasible i don't see how that's possible that's certainly not ideal but it is just hard to see

00:44:41.620 how we come together so if all this freaks you out it freaks me out i don't like thinking about it

00:44:46.760 because i just look out the window and i just feel hopeless and plus we're reading 1984 and women's

00:44:52.420 book club with ali stucky right now on facebook and that'll just that'll just freak you out i'm

00:44:57.360 listening to it which might even be freakier than if i were reading it i read it in high school but

00:45:03.840 i'm listening to it now and it's just i mean it'll just send chills down your spine just the

00:45:08.740 similarities that we are seeing today um if all of that freaks you out i encourage you to listen so

00:45:16.600 i listened to a john mcarthur um a john mcarthur sermon over the weekend he is doing um a sermon

00:45:24.400 on final justice so what it will look like when christ comes back and he rules in perfect justice

00:45:30.960 and righteousness and peace and how we can look forward to that that one day there's not going to be

00:45:36.440 division there's not going to be evil there's not going to be corruption there's not going to be

00:45:40.220 manipulation there's not going to be mistruths or deception there's not going to be false narratives

00:45:47.780 there's not going to be politics there's not going to be partisanship there's not going to be

00:45:52.580 warring superpowers there's not going to be any of that because jesus will rule in perfect

00:45:58.720 righteousness and perfect justice and perfect peace there's not going to be any relativism no

00:46:04.380 subjectivism. There's not going to be my truth and your truth. The truth is going to rule

00:46:10.000 absolutely. And that is the day that we have to look forward to. Like that is what our hope

00:46:15.500 is in. And every day until that happens, our role as a Christian is to just be obedient,

00:46:22.280 is to be obedient. Yes. I mean, I think that we should obviously care about the things that are

00:46:26.860 going on. That's why I do this podcast. I think that we need to be aware because we need to know

00:46:31.120 what to pray for. And we need to know the causes that we need to fight for. We need to know how

00:46:36.920 vigilant we need to be in protecting our children. We need to know what's going on in a local level

00:46:41.820 with our school board, with our school system, what our local officials are doing. We need to know

00:46:46.380 all of that stuff. We need to know which way to vote if we are going to vote. We need to know

00:46:51.440 which issues are at stake. I think all of those things are important because the policies that

00:46:56.560 we are talking about and debating about and the chaos that's waging in the streets, it affects

00:47:00.620 predominantly the least of these. So yes, we do need to care about these things if we care about

00:47:05.620 our children, if we care about our children's children, if we care about the least of these

00:47:08.580 right now. We do need to care about all of those things. But our hope is not in any politician.

00:47:14.300 It's not in any policy. It's not in any party. President Trump cannot deliver us. Joe Biden cannot

00:47:19.560 deliver us. There is no senator or representative or mayor or prosecutor that can deliver us. Now,

00:47:27.000 there can be evil people in all of those positions that can put us in a worse place of suffering and

00:47:33.900 persecution and oppression of the least of these. That is absolutely true. And there are people in

00:47:40.680 those positions that can make changes for the better. That is absolutely true. But those people

00:47:46.540 can't deliver us. They're not going to save us. We cannot worship them. We can't put all of our

00:47:51.060 stock on them. As Christians, we don't. Our future ultimately is not determined by what happens in

00:47:57.180 November, even though, of course, it's important. It's not determined by that. God's plan, God's purposes

00:48:02.800 are not determined by what happens in November, what happens in a second from now or tomorrow or 10 years

00:48:08.640 from now. His plan of redemption is going off without a hitch because he is completely sovereign and

00:48:14.860 nothing happens apart from his will. As we talk about a lot, the Bible says not even a sparrow

00:48:19.420 falls out of the sky apart from the Father's will. If that is true, that not even a bird,

00:48:25.560 which as Jesus says, is sold for two pennies, if not even a bird falls out of the sky apart from the

00:48:31.320 Father's will, do you think any of the things that are happening right now are happening outside of

00:48:35.620 the Father's sovereign will? It's not. So even though it's confusing, even though it's chaotic,

00:48:40.140 what we can trust in is that one day God is going to rule in perfect justice and perfect peace. And

00:48:46.140 there won't be any disagreement. There won't be any division. There won't be any sadness. There

00:48:49.940 won't be any sorrow. There won't be any heartache. There won't be any fear or anxiety or depression or

00:48:54.880 any of that because Jesus will absolutely rule. And we trust right now that God's plan of eternal

00:49:01.280 redemption is going exactly how he wants it to, that he is on his throne, that he knows what he's doing.

00:49:06.680 He's in control. He doesn't come in later to clean up the mess. He is actively working in all of it.

00:49:11.540 And I promise you, as we've talked about before, God's work does not make headlines. So as we speak,

00:49:18.800 as we are reading all these headlines and looking at all of these stories, God is drawing hearts to

00:49:23.720 himself. God is making sure that the gospel is going forth, that it is planting seeds and that it

00:49:32.260 is blooming where he wants it to bloom. He is building and refining his church. Yes, the church

00:49:39.400 might be pushed to the margins of society, but that is where the church thrives. It is refined by fire.

00:49:44.880 It's not destroyed by fire. So God is doing good things right now. And you and I, our job, much more

00:49:52.820 important, even than knowing what's going on in the world, much more important, even than voting,

00:49:56.940 much more important than looking into all these policies and issues and causes and rhetoric and news

00:50:01.600 stories, which are important, but not nearly as important as being obedient to God and being good

00:50:07.260 stewards of the tiny plot of earth that he has placed you on. So that means simply being obedient

00:50:15.360 in the roles that God has called you to right now. Be a good wife, be a good mother, be a good employee,

00:50:22.640 be a good boss, be a good friend, do all of these things to the glory of God. And in everything you do,

00:50:28.100 share the gospel and the love of Christ. And that is enough. That's enough. Now, God might call you

00:50:34.060 to start an organization. God might call you to start a movement. God might call you into something

00:50:39.540 that is really big, maybe something public, maybe something private. God might call you to a different

00:50:45.400 cause that dominates most of your life. He might call you to all of those things, but he will call

00:50:50.960 you. He will call you. And when he does, he will equip you. But until that call comes, and as you

00:50:56.840 are praying and actively seeking his will, be obedient in the things that are right in front

00:51:01.260 of you. That is what we are called to do. We cannot worry about tomorrow. We can't be

00:51:06.900 preoccupied with that. Today has enough trouble for itself. So I just wanted to leave you with

00:51:11.940 that. Listen to John MacArthur's sermons. You might not have the same eschatology as him.

00:51:15.620 I actually don't have the same eschatology as him. I am a premillennialist. He is a premillennialist,

00:51:20.420 but he is a—he's pre-tribulation. I am post-tribulation. If you don't know what I mean

00:51:27.440 by that, you can look it all up, gotquestions.org. It's a great resource for all of that. I also did

00:51:32.920 an episode called The End Times, and I'm actually going to have a conversation with an apologist,

00:51:40.440 Jeff Durbin, and a pastor. He is a post-millennialist, and we're going to talk about—we're going to talk

00:51:45.680 about that and what everything means in relation to The End Times soon. But regardless of where you

00:51:50.700 stand in your eschatology, I do encourage you to go listen to those John MacArthur sermons.

00:51:55.260 It will strengthen you. It will give you peace. It will remind you of what is important. Again,

00:52:01.200 we talk about temporal things on this podcast. Temporal things are important. They are important

00:52:05.300 to know about, and it's important to know the truth and not to be swept up by false narratives and

00:52:09.920 false headlines. But at the end of the day, the realist reality, the most important reality,

00:52:13.860 the most peace-bringing reality is that God is on His throne and that nothing, nothing,

00:52:19.760 nothing happens apart from His will. And not even, as R.C. Sproul used to always say,

00:52:25.160 that there's no maverick molecules. Like, there's not a single molecule in all of the heavens and

00:52:31.460 the earth, in all of the universe, even the parts of the universe that we don't know. There's not a

00:52:35.740 single molecule in all of that that is outside of the Father's will. So you can know, and you can rest

00:52:42.260 assured, and you can be at peace knowing that everything that is happening right now is still

00:52:47.140 in God's control. And there will be a day where He will avenge evil, and truth will win, and evil will

00:52:53.420 be destroyed forever. Okay, that's all I have today. We will be back here on Friday, again, talking about

00:52:59.540 public schools, what's happening in them, and a lot of just like the false narratives that are

00:53:05.220 surrounding them. School choice, micro schools, all that stuff. It's going to be a really fascinating

00:53:09.740 conversation. I'm excited to talk about it. So make sure that you tune in on Friday, and I will see you

00:53:17.160 then.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - July 22, 2020

Ep 278 ｜ Is America Over？

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