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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
- July 27, 2020
Ep 280 | The Madness Ravaging America's Cities
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Misogynist Sentences
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If you so choose. So just a couple announcements to start the show today. We are going to be
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talking about first, I'm going to talk about some good news. Then we're going to talk about some of
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the chaos that's raging and waging, I guess, in the streets of our major cities, why these things
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are happening, at least in my opinion and to my perspective. And we are going to be talking about
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how some of this madness is infiltrating our institutions, including the church, and how,
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quite frankly, the gospel is better. And as I will explain, that is not bypassing the problems
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that we're experiencing. That's not just slapping a band-aid on it. That is looking at the problems
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in the face and realizing that the antidote to all the chaos and the confusion and the division that we
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are feeling as a country can only be rectified and reconciled and solved in Jesus Christ, in our
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creator, in the great reconciler and savior. So we will go through all of that. I know talking about
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some of the bad news, the bad things that are going on in our world can be anxiety-inducing. That's never
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my goal. But I do think it's important for us to be able to look out at the things that are happening
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in our country that might not be affecting us, you and I, tangibly. You and me, tangibly, is grammatically
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correct. But they are affecting people in these communities where, for example, violence has surged
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and where mobs are still running the streets. So I do think it's important to just at least temporarily
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take our eyes off of what's right in front of us and to remember the people who are most vulnerable
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to the violence that's happening across the country and talk about, you know, what we can do about some
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of these things and analyze where these problems are coming from. So we are going to start with good
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news, as I promised. We talked about on Monday the hope that we have in Christ, and this bears repeating
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and explaining even further. It can't be repeated enough. The hope we have that one day he will rule
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in perfect peace. He will rule in justice. He will rule in righteousness. He will have defeated
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sin and death forever. There will be no violence. There will be no mobs. There will be no lawlessness,
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no deceit, no partisanship, no politics, no elections. All the evil that we see around us,
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all the division that we see around us will go away. All wickedness will be avenged. No
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evildoer will go unpunished. All wrongs will be made right. All injustice will be paid for.
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No abuse, no manipulation, no exploitation. God is going to defeat all of it, including Satan,
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the father of lies, the accuser, the originator of all of this confusion and chaos, and he will also
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defeat death. And all of those who have put our faith in Christ to follow him will live in total
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freedom and total joy and total peace forever and ever. We won't have any concerns. We won't have
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any worries. We won't have any anxieties. We won't have any jealousy. We won't have any factions. There
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will be people there where Jesus is ruling, whom we disagreed with on earth, theologically,
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politically, ideologically, and we will be enjoying each other's company as brothers and sisters in
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Christ, fully enjoying the fullness of justice and righteousness and peace under the rule of Christ.
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Let me read you portions of Psalm 37. Maybe my favorite Psalm, I encourage you to read this
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chapter as often as you need to. There is such peace that comes with the truth that this chapter
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discusses. Fret not yourself because of evildoers. Be not envious of wrongdoers, for they will soon
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fade like the grass and wither like the green herb. Trust in the Lord and do good. Dwell in the land and
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befriend faithfulness. Be still before the Lord and wait patiently for him. Fret not yourself over
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the one who prospers in his way, over the man who carries out evil devices. In just a little while,
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the wicked will be no more. Though you look carefully at his place, he will not be there,
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but the meek shall inherit the land and delight themselves in abundant peace. Also part of this
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chapter is verse 4, which says, delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of
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your heart. We actually talked about that in a most misused episode that you can go back and listen
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to or watch where we talk about the entirety of this chapter if you're interested in that. But this,
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what I just read to you from Psalm 37, is what we as Christians have to look forward to. It's coming.
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It is a reality that we are going to experience. It's not just a figment of our imaginations. It's not
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just a mirage. It's coming. We will experience that actually, really, one day. That's going to be
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the reality, the only reality for Christians in the future. And what a privilege that is. Like,
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what a blessing it is to be a Christian that as we look at the chaos all around us, we actually have
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something to look forward to. We have something tangible to hope in, and that is perfect peace.
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How amazing is it that God has given us that privilege? He could have done away with us forever.
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He could have satisfied His wrath on all of us, deserving and totally depraved sinners. But
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instead, He made a way for us through His own Son, Jesus Christ, to be reconciled to Him forever and
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live with Him in perfect peace for eternity. How awesome is it to be a Christian? We talk a lot about
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privilege today. That is the greatest privilege. That is the greatest privilege that anyone could ever
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have to be co-heirs with Christ, to be children of God, and to be able to enjoy His kingdom for
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eternity. What a privilege. So thank God for that. And what a contrast that future hope is, well,
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that current hope for that future reality is, to what is going on in the world right now,
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to the chaos and the violence that is raging in our streets. And I do think it's important,
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like I said, for us to look at the things that are going on beyond our doorstep. And that is not to
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weigh us down with the weight of the world. Because as I've talked about before, social media and media
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make us feel like we are omnipresent, like we are omniscient and omnipotent, but we're not. We're
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finite. We don't have the capacity or the responsibility to care about everything that is going on at all times.
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What we are called to do is to fulfill the roles that God has placed us in well, to steward the
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gifts, the responsibilities that God has given us well, and to concern ourselves with what is right
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in front of us. But I do think it's important for us to remember that while you and I might be
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insulated from a lot of the dangers that are unfortunately manifesting themselves across the
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country right now, there are people who are considered the least of these in these vulnerable
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communities who unfortunately are taking the brunt of this chaos and violence. And I do think it's
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important for us to extend our compassion to them and to do what we can to pray for them, to vote in a
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way that helps them. And that requires us kind of understanding some of the things that are going on.
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So what is going on? Seattle, Portland, other major cities in America are going on about 60 days of
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rioting, looting, arson every night, reportedly from about midnight to 4 a.m. They are rioters that
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are dressed in all black. They are wearing masks. They're writing graffiti on walls. They're burning
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down federal buildings. They are looting stores. They're breaking windows. Here is some footage showing that.
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You may have seen, if you're watching this on YouTube, the phrase ACAB that's graffitied in a
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lot of places on a lot of walls. That stands for, and I'm about to say, a not so great word. So if you
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are listening with kids in the car, you might just want to skip forward or pause whatever you need to
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do. ACAB stands for all cops are bastards. So very often you see that graffitied on walls along with
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the Antifa A. That's kind of a symbol of what they say these riots are about. And that's what these
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riots were supposedly originally about. They started after the George Floyd incident, and they have not
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abated in two months now. The so-called demonstrators will say that this is still
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about police brutality or this is about justice or this is about racism. But I think it's very
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legitimate at this point to ask ourselves if what's going on in these streets correlates at all
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with justice or George Floyd or police brutality. Here's a leader at one of the demonstrations
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stating their mission. Hi, everyone. As many of you know, my name is Lilith Sinclair. I'm an Afro-Indigenous
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non-binary local organizer here in Portland, organizing for the abolition of not just the
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militarized police state, but also the United States as we know. So I appreciate her candor because
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that is what this is really about. And I do, I honestly commend some of them for just coming out
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in saying that. And we should just be real. We should take them at their word. These are mostly
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at this point, mostly, not all, but mostly white rioters that are burning down buildings and looting
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Amazon stores in places like Portland and Seattle. And they're not doing it for George Floyd. It's not
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for racism. It's not for justice. At the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle, a 16-year-old
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black young man was shot and killed by a member of one of the riots that allegedly existed for
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justice. This is not about what happened to George Floyd. It's not about police brutality. It's not
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about white supremacy. If it were, do you honestly think some of these same rioters would be taking
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down statues of people like Frederick Douglass in places like Rochester, New York, if this was really
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about just white supremacy and racism and police brutality, do you think they would be taking down
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statues of Grant, a union general? No, of course not. This is about a revolution, a desire to obliterate
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America as we know it and replace it with what they feel is a communist utopia. And they believe the way
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to get there is through anarchy, through destruction until there is nothing left. And they have to rebuild
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the utopia or what I would say is a dystopia that they desire. And the democratic leaders of these
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cities are not only allowing these things to happen, they are aiding and abetting them. Jenny Durkin,
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mayor of Seattle, insisted for weeks that the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone was peaceful, even though we
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saw reports every day, we saw videos every day of violence, of arson, of vandalism that were happening
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on a daily basis. She said that the area in this city is known for freedom of expression. It's known
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for these kinds of demonstrations. We don't need help from the federal government. It's all well and
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good. And I support the rioters. That's what she was saying for weeks until those rioters showed up
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at her house one night and then she shut it down quickly. It was like the next day she decided that
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those that the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone was an unlawful gathering. And she called in the police to
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make the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone disperse. So when it affected her, when the chaos was on her
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doorstep, that is when she decided, OK, these demonstrations are no longer peaceful. That's after a 16
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year old young black man had died in the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. So maybe if Jenny Durkin, the mayor
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of Seattle, had cared about how this chaos was affecting other people beside her, besides her earlier, that
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young man wouldn't have died. Maybe these livelihoods, the livelihoods of the people who
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own the businesses in this area wouldn't have been destroyed if she had cared about people other than
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herself. But she didn't. Ted Wheeler, mayor of Portland, is on the liberal airwaves saying President
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Trump is sending in federal officers and he's sending in secret police. And that is wrong. These are
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paramilitary forces. It's all a lie. It's a conspiracy theory that these unmarked forces are taking people
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and putting them into unmarked cars. That's not happening. The federal forces that are there are
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there to protect federal property that is in their job description that is absolutely lawful. And all of
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their uniforms have have a signifier on it of who they are, either border patrol or police. That is a
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conspiracy theory to say that these fascist secret forces are coming in and kidnapping people and
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putting them in their cars. But that's what the mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler, has said. He's saying,
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you know what, they're agitating and otherwise a very peaceful situation. We don't need federal forces
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in there. I love how these people talk about the rioters and the demonstrators like they're fire ants.
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Like, oh, if someone comes in and agitates them, they're just going to get angry. Like they're just a
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bunch of animals. Like they don't have any rational capacity at all. It's so patronizing and
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condescending. Well, here is Ted Wheeler trying to reason with these very peaceful protesters.
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So that didn't work out. Yet Ted Wheeler is still saying, no, no, no, no, no. This is all well and
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good. I'm standing with them. Dude, they hate you. They hate you. It's amazing how weak these leaders
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are. Jacob Frey, mayor of Minneapolis, where George Floyd was killed, assured everyone the protesters were
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peaceful and reasonable. Here's what happened when he said, well, maybe I'm not going to actually defund the
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police. So again, that didn't go over well. It's almost like mobs don't want to have conversations.
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However, after that, the Minneapolis City Council did move to defund the police at the end of June,
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even while the murder rate in Minneapolis increased by almost 100 percent from this time last year.
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Of course, while they defunded the police, they used 152,000 taxpayer dollars for their own personal
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security personnel to protect them from the mobs. So they took away the security for the poor people,
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but they kept taxpayer security for themselves. Great. Typical Democratic nonsense. Speaking of a
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rising crime, let's look at the city of Chicago. Compared to last year, both shootings and homicides
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have shot up to rates that have been unseen in decades. The victims are almost all black. The
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perpetrators are almost all black. Among the victims are multiple three-year-olds, a 13-year-old girl,
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and many hundreds of young black men. And because Trump is trying to send federal help to Chicago,
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who is experiencing a crisis resulting in a massive loss of life, Lori Lightfoot's ego is hurt. And
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here's what here's what she has to say. The president has been on a campaign now for some time against
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Democratic mayors across the country. Whether it's me, whether it's Keisha Lance Bottoms in Atlanta,
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whether it's Muriel Bowser in Washington, CC, whether it's Jenny Durkan in Seattle. You see a
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common theme here? The president is trying to divert attention from his failed leadership on COVID-19.
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So while hundreds of young people, children, babies are dying on her watch at rates higher than they
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have seen in 30 years. Lori Lightfoot is concerned about sexism, about President Trump possibly being
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sexist in his criticism. Well, she's the only one that only named female mayors. President Trump has
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also gone after Bill de Blasio. President Trump has also talked about Ted Wheeler of Portland. So
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she's the only one making that connection. And it just shows how insulated she is from the cares and
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concerns and the tragedies that are happening on her doorstep as the blood of hundreds of her
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constituents are coloring the streets of Chicago. Mayor Lori Lightfoot is worried about maybe implicit
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somewhere mysterious misogyny from the president of the United States. It's amazing. Or maybe,
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maybe it's because she and the other mayors that she listed are doing their jobs. If you want to prove
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female empowerment, if that's really what we're talking about, try and being a powerful leader
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instead of a weak one. Under Mayor Bottoms' watch in Atlanta, that is a female mayor of Atlanta,
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an eight-year-old black girl was murdered by rioters a couple weeks ago. Under Mayor Jenny Durkin's
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watch in Seattle, a 16-year-old black boy was murdered by rioters amid protests over Memorial Day
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weekend. Under Mayor Lightfoot's watch, Chicago had the deadliest weekend in 30 years. 84 people shot,
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24 killed, almost all of those black Americans. And those are just a few of the examples of violence
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that have occurred in Atlanta, in Seattle, in Chicago recently. So if these ladies, these female
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mayors don't want help from the president, maybe they should do their jobs. And like I said, it's not
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just female mayors that are dropping the ball here. Ted Wheeler, mayor of Portland, the fellow that you saw
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mobbed by the mob, the mayor of Minneapolis, Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York City, where crime and
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homicides are surging, where a black one-year-old was shot in the stomach and died a couple weeks ago,
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has reallocated $1 billion from the NYPD. And he is spending his time painting Black Lives Matter on
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the road when black people are dying because of his reallocation of funds from the police. Again,
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I ask for the millionth time, which black lives matter and to whom? Which black lives matter and
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to whom? All of these Democratic mayors who use the hashtag and they say the phrase and they paint
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the phrase and they support the organization, black lives are being murdered at insane rates on their
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watch as we speak. And these are preventable deaths in large parts. They could be prevented by
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cracking down on the rioting and the looting and not demonizing and defunding the police.
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Thousands of black lives are being lost every day in this country due to intra-community violence and
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they don't have any organizations rallying for them. They don't have anyone protesting for them.
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They don't have any angry teenagers throwing Molotov cocktails at police officers for them.
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No statues are being torn down for them. Yes, in Chicago, just the other night, in the middle of the
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night, Mayor Lori Lightfoot had the statue of Christopher Columbus taken down and she saw this
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as a great victory. Look, taking down the statue of Christopher Columbus is not going to bring those
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dead babies back to life, Lori Lightfoot. That's not going to make you a good mayor. And that's what
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all of this is. So much of this is virtue signaling while ignoring the problems that are literally killing
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flesh and blood human beings. Just because you say that Black Lives Matter doesn't mean that you
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actually think they do. If your actions are not lining up with that phrase. Black Lives Matter,
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the organization, supports the defunding of the police. The police are the only line of defense
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for people, especially women and children, that don't have the resources or the ability to protect
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themselves. Yes, there are bad apples in the police force, and that is dangerous. That's worse than
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having like a bad apple in a financial firm because these people are armed and they're going into these
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vulnerable communities. And if you've got a bad apple that is carrying a gun, of course, the effect
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of that bad apple is going to be the loss of life and injustice. And we should absolutely care about
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that. I want to do whatever we can to minimize those cases. And I want bad cops to be brought to
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justice quickly. Absolutely. But police officers, if we're honest, and if we look at the data,
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are the least of the problems that are facing the inner cities right now. A 2015 Gallup poll after
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Ferguson found that only 8% of Black Americans want a smaller police presence in their communities.
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33% said they wanted a larger presence of police compared to only 18% of white people who said that
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and 27% of Hispanics. So white people are actually the least likely to say they want
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a larger police presence. And Black people are the most likely to say that they would like a larger
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police presence in their communities. So who are these mobs and these activist groups really
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represented in their push to defund the police? Not the majority of the Black community, apparently.
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They're representing the radical fringes of the left, the majority of whom happens to be white,
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who don't represent the concerns and the tragedies that are going on in these communities.
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And these fringes right now are destroying cities that are made up of large minority communities.
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And these Democratic politicians in these cities who are ordering the police to stand down,
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who are reallocating funds away from their police departments, who are demonizing the police,
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that the police are afraid to go into these violent neighborhoods, they're afraid to do their jobs,
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are only making matters worse. Those are just the facts. And again, it is the underprivileged,
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the poor, the weak, the elderly, the disabled, the babies, the women who are made most vulnerable
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when crime goes up because of a lack of policing. But here is what people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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have to say about defunding the police.
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When people ask me, what does a world where we defund the police, where defunding police looks like,
00:25:54.540
I tell them it looks like a suburb. Because in Yorktown Heights and in a lot of these communities
00:26:01.940
in Westchester, what is the most important thing that is like politically the most important thing
00:26:10.160
that the world revolves around? It's school funding. People will uproot their entire lives.
00:26:15.660
You will see people go nuts for school funding.
00:26:18.300
What? Girl, what? First of all, first of all, the suburbs have police. They have a police force.
00:26:27.960
Does she not realize that? Second, criminals don't just stop committing crimes. So her logic sounds
00:26:33.740
like she thinks the police are causing the crime. And if police just stopped policing,
00:26:39.680
then criminals would stop committing crimes and inner cities would start just
00:26:43.120
looking like the suburbs. So I guess drive-by shootings of cookouts where a one-year-old baby
00:26:49.600
is murdered or the drive-by shooting that happened the other day by a funeral that shot and killed
00:26:55.620
several people. Those things would just stop happening. Everything would look like the suburbs
00:26:59.820
once we defunded the police. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. Also, the most vulnerable,
00:27:05.940
the poor, are left behind when the rich people, which they inevitably do,
00:27:11.040
leave these cities and leave these areas because of a lack of policing and because of danger. They
00:27:17.280
leave places also where this mob rioting is happening, places like Portland and Seattle, because
00:27:23.680
they don't want to deal with the madness. They want to protect their families. So the rich and the
00:27:27.920
middle class, if they can afford it, they leave and they move outward and they abandon these cities.
00:27:33.540
And then you have the poor and the vulnerable that are left to pick up the pieces. And just as an
00:27:39.800
aside, for all the people who are leaving these liberal cities, fleeing to the mountains, fleeing
00:27:44.880
to rural areas, fleeing to the suburbs, please just leave your liberal policies behind. Please take notice
00:27:52.820
of how the quality of life in your cities. So San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, New York City,
00:27:59.840
Baltimore, Austin has gone down while homelessness and crime have gone up. Please take notice of these
00:28:07.240
things and resist bringing your liberal ideals and ideas to the red counties, the red states, the red
00:28:14.760
cities, the red areas that you are fleeing to because they're more peaceful. There's a reason why they're
00:28:19.520
more peaceful. There's a there's a reason why they're cleaner and more prosperous. And it's because they don't
00:28:25.120
have the liberal values and the liberal policies and the liberal politicians that you had in the cities that
00:28:30.740
you used to live in that are now run down. Democratic policies sound good and end badly. Every time,
00:28:38.260
always, they make their cities worse. Many cities are prosperous despite their liberal policies, not
00:28:44.460
because of them. Democratic governors who do do a good job leading their cities very often are moderate
00:28:50.640
in economic matters, moderate in some of their policies. And that doesn't mean that no Democrat has
00:28:56.940
ever had a good idea or ever had a good policy prescription or that they don't ever bring up
00:29:01.840
good points. Again, I think that it's important to have a liberal perspective. I don't want to live in
00:29:06.180
a country where everyone ideologically agrees. I do want to live in a country where we have shared
00:29:10.380
fundamental values and we're able to have spirited discussions and debates about the policies that get
00:29:16.060
us closer to those values like liberty and justice for all. But the fact of the matter is the leftism that
00:29:21.960
is currently being propagated by this Democratic Party in these major cities is toxic. It is destructive.
00:29:29.580
And I don't think Republicans, to be fair, have done nearly enough to mitigate this madness. I think a lot
00:29:36.580
of Republicans are weak right now. I think a lot of Republicans, not all certainly, but a lot of
00:29:41.540
Republicans are silent that they're not doing a good job of leaving. They're not doing a good job of
00:29:46.720
representing the conservative cause or conservative concerns. Instead, we have some Republicans
00:29:51.600
in Congress pitching to change Columbus Day. Is that really what we need right now? Is that the
00:29:58.640
representation that we voted for when we voted you into Congress? President Trump and his
00:30:04.600
administration are finally sending federal officers into these cities, which is good for the law-abiding
00:30:10.160
citizens there. Even Mayor Lightfoot of Chicago has said, OK, OK, OK, yeah, we need some help to crack
00:30:15.280
down on gang violence. So you know what? We should give credit where it's due and we should give
00:30:20.060
grace where there should be given grace. And Mayor Lightfoot, even though she is unfortunately
00:30:27.100
has been a terrible, weak leader, at least she was able to lay down her ego long enough to be able to
00:30:32.860
say, OK, you know, we need federal forces and we need people to come in. Might be too little too late,
00:30:38.640
but I'm glad that she is accepting that help. And thank goodness that President Trump is
00:30:44.560
willing to go in and help these cities. He would be able to say, you know what, we're actually not
00:30:51.000
going to go protect federal property. We're actually not going to help them crack down on crime because
00:30:56.340
they could say he could say, OK, these cities are run by Democrats. They made their bed. We should just
00:31:01.160
let them lie in it. But he is realizing what a lot of people are realizing, that that's not fair for the
00:31:06.740
law abiding, especially the poor citizens in those cities that are the victims of this violence and of
00:31:15.140
this madness. So I don't even know if it's politically advantageous for President Trump to send help
00:31:21.920
into these cities, but he's doing it because it's the it's the right thing to do. And I'm very glad that
00:31:27.880
he is. Again, I just want to reiterate that all of this madness that is happening, the riots and the
00:31:34.900
mobs. It's not about black lives. It's not. If it were about black lives, not just for these
00:31:39.960
rioters and the mobs, but also for these Democratic politicians that are pandering to the mobs and
00:31:44.700
allowing violence to ravage their streets. If it were really about black lives, they would be out there
00:31:50.680
supporting policies that save and help black lives. They would be, for example, I mean, you listen to
00:31:57.100
this on Friday, they would be supporting school choice, something that specifically and quantifiably
00:32:01.960
helps black children. They would be doing everything they can to support the cohesion of the family. We
00:32:07.340
know what fatherlessness does to people of all ethnic backgrounds. It increases the rates of
00:32:12.540
depression, anxiety, dropping out of high school, teen pregnancy, teen delinquency. That's what
00:32:18.940
fatherlessness causes. And so these politicians who say they care about black lives should be doing
00:32:24.920
everything they can to push for and support the cohesion of the family. They would be against
00:32:30.680
Planned Parenthoods that are setting up shop in minority communities specifically that are
00:32:36.600
killing thousands of black babies every year disproportionately. As we know, Planned Parenthood
00:32:40.440
was founded by a eugenicist who spoke to the KKK, Margaret Sanger. But that institution, that murder
00:32:47.180
mill is apparently fine. We're apparently supposed to support that while simultaneously saying that black
00:32:52.940
lives matter. What about the thousands of baby lives that are murdered every year in Planned
00:32:57.480
Parenthood? We are on the same page, by the way, about the evils of police brutality. One thousand
00:33:04.180
percent racialized police brutality is, I think we all agree, is something that is wicked. However,
00:33:12.200
and this is so controversial to say, but the data just proves this to be true, racialized police brutality
00:33:17.660
is not an epidemic. And I agree that one racialized death, one unjust death, is one too many. All of them
00:33:25.380
are wrong. Any kind of unjust use of police force needs to be condemned. It needs to be investigated.
00:33:33.020
The police officer needs to be held accountable. Tatiana Jackson, Justine Damon, Daniel Shaver,
00:33:38.420
Philando Castile, Elijah McClain are just a few of the situations that I think from, it seems from what
00:33:45.120
I know, were a questionable, questionable use of force. And I think that those things need to be brought to
00:33:53.380
justice. However, the justice system sees fit. Any instance should be investigated. Any instance should
00:33:59.560
be brought to justice. But the numbers simply do not bear out the idea that police are disproportionately
00:34:05.500
targeting minority communities. You can go back and you can listen to the episode, Does the Truth Matter
00:34:10.200
and Which Black Lives Matter? to learn more about that. Those are two different episodes that talk about
00:34:15.960
this issue in depth in some of the numbers. So to use that issue of racialized police brutality and
00:34:23.260
then extrapolate it into a nebulous conversation about systemic racism in which all disparities that
00:34:29.580
we see between the ethnicities are labeled systemic racism, rather than actually looking into the many
00:34:35.500
factors that can play into disparities, to use it as a springboard to try to revolutionize
00:34:41.100
corporations, sports, academia, the church, language, in a way that chastises white people as a group and
00:34:47.920
elevates non-whites as a group based on nothing except for generalizations is not productive. Like if we are
00:34:56.060
going to talk about prejudice, which has existed in America and exists, I'm sure, in places today because
00:35:04.760
people are sinful and unfortunately hold prejudices in their hearts. If we are going to talk about
00:35:10.540
where those things exist and where discrimination exists, whether it's in legislation, in the church,
00:35:16.000
I think we should talk about that. If pastors want to talk about it, I think that they should talk
00:35:20.520
about it. But we have to be specific. We have to talk about what this prejudice actually looks like
00:35:25.240
tangibly, where it's showing up, how to rectify it, and in a Christian sense, how to repent from it if it is
00:35:31.000
something that we are personally responsible for. And there are some people that are doing that, and that's
00:35:35.720
really good. I think that that's important. There are crucial conversations happening. So I'm not lumping
00:35:42.020
all of the conversations about discrimination and prejudice together and saying that it's all
00:35:46.920
contributed to mob violence. I'm not saying that at all. But we need to be careful because this kind of
00:35:53.640
undefined gospel of grievance that we see in some places that says white people are all inherently racist,
00:35:59.360
all American institutions are white supremacist. The idea, like the Modern Museum of African American
00:36:05.780
History and Culture said, that the idea of individualism is just whiteness. The idea of
00:36:13.080
rational thinking is just whiteness. The idea of hardworking is just whiteness. We really have to be
00:36:17.780
careful with that because that is a gospel of grievance that tears down not just individuals, but entire
00:36:22.620
societies. It's not helpful. It's not biblical. Assuming that your white neighbors are racist,
00:36:28.540
and that the principles that America was founded on are therefore racist is not the path to
00:36:36.280
reconciliation. Assuming that someone is racist just based on the color of their skin is not loving
00:36:40.420
your neighbor. It doesn't build a path to the kind of unity that people within the church and people
00:36:45.800
outside of the church say that they want. So we have to realize that America, both its individuals
00:36:52.100
and its institutions simply are much less ethnically prejudiced than some people want us to believe.
00:36:59.700
Again, that doesn't mean that prejudice doesn't exist, but because this is all a useful wedge to
00:37:04.680
divide us, it's a useful springboard for a socialist revolution, for these anarchists to carry out their
00:37:11.280
revolution and burn cities to the ground. It's a good distraction for these democratic politicians who
00:37:16.880
are failing their cities because it can be used as a way to precipitate these things, and it can be used
00:37:27.660
as a way to justify a revolution. We have to be careful not to buy into any exaggerated descriptions
00:37:35.260
of ethnic prejudice. I'm trying to get away from using this word racist because race is a social
00:37:41.540
construct that is not helpful when we're talking about these subjects. And I think we have to realize
00:37:48.840
that it's being highlighted and exploited as a means of division and destruction, which is really
00:37:54.100
unfortunate because it makes it very difficult to have productive conversations about where prejudice
00:37:59.780
really exists and where injustice and unfair inequality of opportunity really exists. Booker T.
00:38:06.100
Washington spoke of race baiters who make their living off of this kind of stuff. He said,
00:38:11.140
some of these people do not want the black man to lose his grievances because they do not want to
00:38:15.920
lose their jobs. So just realize that some people are capitalizing off of the chaos that's happening
00:38:21.420
right now. And so we have to be discerning. We have to discern between the people who are having a
00:38:26.100
productive dialogue about prejudice and people who are preaching a useless, counterproductive gospel
00:38:32.220
of grievance, who are using the chaos to build a revolution that seeks to take down and tear down
00:38:37.920
everything that has ever made America the land of opportunity that it is, but also to take down
00:38:44.280
things that have made humanity strong and cohesive, freedom, faith, the nuclear family. Certainly Black
00:38:50.660
Lives Matter as an organization falls into that category. Again, go back and listen to the episode,
00:38:55.700
Which Black Lives Matter? They are admitted Marxist. They want to dismantle the nuclear family. They believe
00:39:00.980
anti-capitalism is anti-racism. They realize that focusing on only a certain kind of death of a black
00:39:10.040
person is useful for their Marxist goals. And speaking of BLM, Rutgers University says that they are standing
00:39:16.780
in solidarity with that organization by de-emphasizing grammar and sentence structure in their English
00:39:22.880
classes to try to close inequities between white and non-white students. Talk about the soft bigotry of
00:39:30.440
low expectations. And this is part of what I'm talking about. These counterproductive goals that
00:39:35.060
are happening that are driving us further apart and only are going to create more disparities and
00:39:39.820
division and resentment. This is the same kind of thing we saw in that whiteness document in the
00:39:45.320
Modern Museum of African-American Culture associating whiteness with punctuality, with hard work, with
00:39:50.980
accuracy, with the scientific method, all things that aren't white but are universally positive and
00:39:56.940
lend to people's success and always have. The ability to write and to speak well and accurately
00:40:03.520
will always be valuable. It will always get you farther than your peers. So Rutgers, instead of
00:40:10.120
providing ways to maybe help these students reach higher standards, they're lowering the standards for
00:40:14.500
these students. And you know what that does? Like I said, that creates more disparities because the
00:40:19.020
students who do know proper grammar and can speak well and write well are not going to stop using it.
00:40:23.760
They're not going to dumb themselves down and they will continue to be more successful. They are going
00:40:29.480
to be more likely to get a job. They are going to be more likely to get into grad school because they
00:40:33.840
can write proper emails and handle themselves in an interview because they continue to hold themselves
00:40:38.520
to high standards that the teachers refuse to hold other people to. So that creates more
00:40:44.820
disparities. And this is what this brand of leftism seeks to do. It aims to bring everyone to the lowest
00:40:50.480
common denominator rather than helping those at the bottom reach the high standards that are needed
00:40:55.480
to succeed. Because actually, as critical theory would assert, the existence of objective standards
00:41:00.740
is oppressive. This kind of paternalism is what hurts communities. And you can call me crazy,
00:41:06.940
call me some kind of radical, but I believe that people of all ethnicities have the same capacity to
00:41:13.660
succeed if they are willing to work hard and apply themselves. And I don't believe that we should be
00:41:20.320
lowering the standards for anyone because I believe that everyone is able, no matter where they started,
00:41:26.460
everyone is able to accomplish the things that they want to accomplish. That's not to say there aren't
00:41:31.700
obstacles in some people's way that other people don't have in their way. That's not to say that some
00:41:36.920
people aren't born with certain privileges that other people aren't. But I do believe that every
00:41:42.340
ethnicity has the capacity to reach high standards without us actually lowering those standards. But
00:41:47.380
remember, the people who propagate this kind of leftism, they do not see making something of
00:41:53.180
yourself or getting a job or starting a family or providing for them as necessarily good. They actually
00:41:58.460
see these things as an oppressive American dream or an idolatrous American dream. They actually see
00:42:04.060
the oppressiveness of, for example, the family hierarchy. They are okay with everyone being
00:42:11.820
dumb. They're okay with everything being subjective because socialism is much more easily put upon
00:42:18.220
people who are uncritically thinking. Again, all of this stuff that's happening, the chaos,
00:42:24.500
the revolutions of our institutions is not about Black lives or the lives or success of Black people.
00:42:32.360
For some, yes. But for those who are wielding power right now, who are allowing and exacerbating
00:42:37.800
this violence and this chaos and the revolution of our institutions, no. And all of this is causing
00:42:42.860
terrible division where there just wasn't before. Have there always been tensions between the ethnicities
00:42:48.520
in America? Yes, of course there have. There have been obviously tensions between Black Americans and
00:42:54.800
White Americans. There have been tensions between Black Americans and Korean Americans. There have been
00:42:59.120
tensions between Jewish Americans and Black Americans. And we have a history of evil prejudice
00:43:04.240
against, I would say, predominantly Black Americans, but also other groups that exacerbate those tensions
00:43:10.040
today that make them worse. But I do believe that we were headed, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago or
00:43:17.560
more, maybe 15 years ago, towards a post-racial America. And that we have taken huge steps backward,
00:43:23.960
huge steps backward, at least in part because of the tenets of critical theory infecting academia,
00:43:31.320
the identity politics by Obama and others like him, the new wokeness that has infected corporations
00:43:38.460
and curriculum because of Marxist intersectionality that splits people up as the oppressed versus the
00:43:43.780
oppressor based solely on their skin color and their group identity. These have created resentment.
00:43:49.340
They have glorified victimhood, which is just crushing to unity. It's crushing to any idea of
00:43:55.360
reconciliation. It's crushing to progress. We just can't move forward under the burden of
00:44:00.880
intersectionality. It's too heavy for a unified people to bear. Now, I want to show you a picture
00:44:06.180
that is very disturbing. So if you're watching on YouTube, consider this your trigger warning.
00:44:10.780
If you want to look away, if you want to fast forward, I'm also going to describe it. So if you want to
00:44:15.860
fast forward through this, then you can do that. This is a picture of an Ohio man by the name of
00:44:23.740
Isaiah Jackson. He is putting his knee on the neck of a baby, wearing only a diaper who is laying on
00:44:30.140
his stomach. His face is clearly crying out in distress with another person holding the baby's
00:44:36.200
hands behind his back. This is sickening. My stomach is in knots just describing this. I don't know
00:44:43.700
if I will ever get this terrible picture out of my head. The caption on the picture says BLM now,
00:44:50.640
MFs. It's relevant to the story that the man who is kneeling on the baby is black and that the baby
00:44:57.460
is white. Thankfully, the man who has a criminal past has been arrested and charged, and we should
00:45:03.120
pray for justice and for the welfare of that poor child. Now, this is just a random person. This is not
00:45:09.580
representative of everyone who says Black Lives Matter. Certainly not. It's not even representative
00:45:14.120
of the organization necessarily. So why do I show this picture that has been making the rounds for
00:45:21.180
the past few days and has made a few obscure but not any mainstream headlines? Because it is representative
00:45:29.060
of the mindset that is being encouraged by this movement, that people of a certain skin tone have
00:45:36.020
the right to be angry and to lash out at all people of another skin tone because of injustices that have
00:45:43.360
historically been perpetuated by white people. I mean, that's really what we're told. That's what
00:45:49.140
this whole anti-racism movement says, both outside the church and inside the church, that all white
00:45:54.560
people are complicit. The book White Fragility says that all white people are born into racism, that white
00:46:00.280
people bear a corporate responsibility for the injustices of America's past, that all white people
00:46:05.240
need to repent of the sin of racism, whether or not they have ever been actively racist. And while I
00:46:12.160
believe that Christian books like White Awake, The Color of Compromise, and Be the Bridge all have very
00:46:18.980
good and very important components to them, and I encourage you to read them and to take what is true
00:46:28.640
and to dismiss what is not true. I'll never tell you not to read something. They have important parts of
00:46:33.520
them, but an argument made in all of these books is that white people today are at the very least
00:46:39.820
corporately complicit in perpetuating prejudice against black people and that we all need to
00:46:46.080
repent. All white people have benefited from white supremacy and therefore we all have to, quote, do the
00:46:51.840
work of dismantling it because all white people are in a way guilty. But what I'm trying to point out
00:46:58.820
by this picture is not that any of those authors would ever condone what is happening in this
00:47:03.560
picture or that this is what their intention is at all. I'm just trying to take you to the logic of
00:47:08.940
that kind of thinking that is represented in this picture. Because if all people who just share a
00:47:15.280
certain melanin count are complicit in the system of racism and are therefore guilty and are therefore
00:47:22.000
it's necessary for them to repent, then why not hold babies who are whites to that standard too?
00:47:31.980
Why are babies not held liable? If white people today are guilty because we've benefited from white
00:47:36.300
structures and are therefore racist, whether we've actively been racist or not, as white fragility
00:47:41.960
asserts, doesn't that mean that white babies are also guilty? And if so, why not harbor resentment
00:47:48.280
against them? Why not be angry at white babies? If the standard of guilt isn't what you have ever
00:47:54.240
said, isn't what you have ever done, but is based on the group that you're a part of or the color of
00:47:59.280
your skin, then why not punish a white baby for what a white police officer did to George Floyd?
00:48:04.120
I'm not saying that this, again, is the explicit argument that is made in any of these books. It's
00:48:08.220
not. And there's no doubt, again, that these authors would all be aghast and they would all be
00:48:12.780
appalled and they would all condemn what was happening in those books. I am trying to get you to see
00:48:17.040
the logical conclusion to the argument that guilt and responsibility is assigned to people
00:48:21.620
based on their skin color rather than on what they've actually done. This is where that gets
00:48:26.900
you. Anger toward people who have done nothing to you, nothing to anyone who looks like you,
00:48:32.780
and especially the ones who can't defend themselves. Thomas Sowell says this,
00:48:37.000
it is self-destructive for any society to create a situation where a baby who is born into the world
00:48:42.180
today automatically has pre-existing grievances against another baby born at the same time
00:48:47.580
because of what their ancestors did centuries ago. That's true. It is absolutely self-destructive.
00:48:55.040
Identity politics, intersectionality, Marxism, critical theory, they are all meant to divide and
00:49:01.360
destroy, not build. It's not in their nature to build. So let me ask, let me ask this. In the church,
00:49:08.680
do you think that all of this, this idea of corporate guilt and corporate innocence,
00:49:14.080
corporate grievance, not based on what you've actually done, not based on the intent of your
00:49:18.840
heart, not based on what you've said, but just by nature of the color of your skin,
00:49:23.420
do you think that that philosophy is lending itself to unity and so-called racial reconciliation?
00:49:30.960
Is assuming all white people are racist loving your neighbor? Is encouraging non-white people
00:49:36.220
to harbor resentment toward people that they don't know solely based on their skin color,
00:49:41.620
loving your neighbor? A resentment that, like all resentment, hurts their own hearts and souls.
00:49:46.340
It doesn't. That's not going to lead to peace. That's not going to lead to reconciliation. What
00:49:51.460
will happen is, unfortunately and tragically, many white people will avoid being friends with non-white
00:49:57.420
people because they're going to assume that they think that they're racist and that they hate them.
00:50:03.100
And then many non-white people will avoid white people because they assume that all white people
00:50:07.900
are racist or complicit in racism, as we've been told. And that's not right. None of that is good.
00:50:13.260
None of that is progress. None of that is what should be happening in the church. While the world divides
00:50:19.700
itself by assigned oppression points and identity groups, the church doesn't. We refuse to assume the
00:50:25.500
worst about people based on their skin color, especially we refuse to allow resentment and disdain
00:50:31.500
and bitterness fester in our hearts. We refuse to hold a group liable for the sins of other people who
00:50:37.040
happen to have the same melanin count as them. We refuse to resist friendships because we presume
00:50:42.880
people's motives or their hearts. That is not what we do. That's what the world does. And that's why the
00:50:49.600
world is erupting in chaos right now. That is not what Christians do. But this mindset is eating the
00:50:55.620
church. And like I said, a lot of the conversations right now happening around prejudice, around
00:51:00.920
injustice are good and productive when they are rooted in the gospel. And a lot of the components
00:51:05.860
of the books that I listed are good and interesting. Like we should think about the history of the church
00:51:12.840
and how the sin of prejudice and hate has disproportionately affected black people in
00:51:17.940
the country. And as I've said so many times, these are topics that are worthy of reading about and
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discussing even from the pulpit. I agree that there are problems in the church that we have turned a
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blind eye to. I understand that there is pain that many black Americans feel that I will never understand
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because for many of them, they heard stories from their parents and grandparents about what it was like
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to be hated or terrorized for their skin color and that they have likely experienced a kind of
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ethnic disdain that I will never experience. I agree that we should listen to people's hearts and
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experiences and perspectives. We should mourn with those who mourn. We should hate hate. We should want
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justice. We should strive for a church that treats everyone equally as image bearers and for Christians as
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co-heirs with Christ. But when we talk about these subjects, we have to be specific in naming the
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problems and we have to be biblical in naming the solutions because we have the solution to prejudice
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that the world doesn't have. We have the great equalizer. We have the great unifier. We have the gospel.
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We have the message, the power that enables us to love people unconditionally and completely no matter
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what they look like. Galatians 3 27 through 29. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put
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on Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither slave nor free. There is no male nor female
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for you are all one in Christ Jesus and you are Christ's. Then you, and if you are Christ's, then you
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are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to the promise. Colossians 3 11 through 13. Here there is
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not Greek and Jew circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free, but Christ is all
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and in all. Put on then as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness,
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humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another. And if anyone has a complaint against
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another, forgiving each other as the Lord has forgiven you, so you must also forgive. Ephesians
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4 1 through 6. I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, urge you to walk in a manner, walk in a manner
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worthy of the calling to which you have been called with all humility and gentleness, with patience,
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bearing with one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the spirit and the bond of peace.
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There is one body and one spirit, just as you are called to the one hope that belongs to your call,
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one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and father of all who is over all and through all and
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in all. Ephesians 4 31. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from
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you along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another as God in
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Christ forgave you. Last one. 1 Corinthians 13 4 through 7. Love is patient and kind. Love does not
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envy or boast. It is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way. It is not irritable or
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resentful. It does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things,
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believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. So you're telling me after listening to
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that, that the gospel isn't enough, that the gospel is insufficient. And in some cases, as some
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unfortunately self-proclaimed Christian teachers have said, inappropriate. After listening to all the
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answers that we need to the problems that we face are listed right there, that we need to borrow
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the critical theory, philosophies of the world that assign corporate complicity based on skin color
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and expect corporate guilt and repentance based on skin color, I showed you an ugly picture that
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represents where that logic takes us. It's not to peace. It's not to unity. It's not to love. It's not
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to justice. We can discuss the sin of hate and prejudice as the epistles often do without using the
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divisive philosophies of a world that does not know God. Look out your window and see what a world
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that does not know God looks like. That's not what the church is supposed to look like. That's not what
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the church is supposed to be engaging in right now. So we as Christians, what must we do? We have to
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resist the urge to be afraid of friendships and relationships because of assumptions of how
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a certain kind of person thinks. We resist the mistrust and the defensiveness and the resentment
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that are all the products of these worldly philosophies of identity politics and Marxism
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and so much of the so-called anti-racism movement. We assume the best in our brothers and sisters in
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Christ and we realize that any grievance that we hold toward someone else, God has every right to hold
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that grievance toward us. And instead of holding it against us, he has sent his son so that we could
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be forgiven of that grievance forever. And we are told to forgive other people as God in Christ has
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forgiven us. And we also shouldn't assign grievance to people who haven't done anything to us just
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based on the group that they belong to. That goes for people of all ethnicities who bear the name of
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Christ. That is not what the church is supposed to look like. We are supposed to be unified in the
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gospel, which says that we were all dead in sin, not different levels of dead. We were all dead in
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sin. We were all undeserving of God's grace, of his mercy, of his forgiveness. But God, he made us alive
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together with Christ. And so now we are all equal and we should be treating our brothers and sisters
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in Christ as such. So we assume the best in our brothers and sisters in Christ. We see those outside the
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church as lost people in need of a Savior. We pray that the Holy Spirit would give us power to love
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people in a way that shows the world what real unity and reconciliation look like. And that is impossible
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without the saving grace of the gospel. It's impossible. No other tool, no other theory, no other mindset
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will get us there. None. If the gospel reconciled Jews and Gentiles through their belief in Christ,
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then surely it is enough to reconcile people with different melanin counts today. Remember,
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Paul represented a group and he himself actually persecuted to the death many Gentile Christians
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and many Jewish Christians as well. And then he became a missionary to a lot of these people. There was a
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lot of actually direct forgiveness that was necessary in order, I'm sure, to accept Paul. But it's very
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clear through the epistles that we are all made equal before Christ. We are equal in our depravity.
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We are equal in our sin. And once we are made alive in Christ by his grace, we are co-heirs. We are
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brothers and sisters in Christ. And that is the reconciliation that we need, first to God, which
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brings us at peace with each other. If the gospel, again, could reconcile two groups like the Jews and
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the Gentiles, then surely it is enough to reconcile people with different melanin counts today.
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That is what the gospel does. It takes people whose ancestors hated each other and makes them brothers
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and sisters. And there's no better news than that. There's no better hope than that. And so let that be
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what we cling to. Let that be the driving force behind our conversations about justice and prejudice
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and love and hate and holiness and sanctification and caring for the least of these. That is the only
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way to peace. That is the only mindset that will bring unity and joy rather than grievance and
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resentment. Those are not only not fruit of the Spirit, they're actually fruit of Satan. And so we
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need to resist that. People of all ethnicities with everything we can and cling to the hope of Christ,
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which does not only bring us gladness, but also the reconciliation that we seek.
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Okay, that's all I have for today. That was a long episode. I'll be back here Wednesday. We'll be
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talking about another really important and heavy but really crucial topic, but I will just
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leave it to your imaginations. Okay, I'll see you then.
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