Ep 299 | The Fight Against Sex Trafficking | Guest: Jaco Booyens
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Yako Buyans is a South African immigrant living in the United States, who has dedicated his life to fighting against sex trafficking. In this episode of Relatable, Yako shares what sex trafficking looks like, what to look for, and what to do about it.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Today I am talking to Yako Buyans. A lot of you guys
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follow him on Instagram. You support his organization or maybe you have heard him speak at an event
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before, but he is on the front lines against sex trafficking. And so today he is going to
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tell us what sex trafficking looks like. There are parts of it that just aren't as obvious and
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aren't as publicized as you and I might know. So he's going to give us information on that and give
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us an inside look into what the fight against it actually looks like, what kinds of things
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we need to be looking for and how we can help protect victims, how we can fight against it
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ourselves, the kinds of initiatives and the kinds of politicians that we should be supporting. I am
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so excited for you to listen to this conversation. He is so helpful and so insightful and so strong
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in this fight. So without further ado, here is Yako Buyans.
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know that and make sure that you are in the know and that you are cutting through all the noise with
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us. Thank you so much for being here. Appreciate it, Ali. Very, very happy to be here. Yes, I think
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that everyone listening probably follows you as well. But in case there are a few people out there who
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don't know you, can you tell them who you are and what you do? Yeah, Yaku Boyens, born and raised
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South Africa, proud legal immigrant to the United States. For the last 17 years I've been a citizen
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and we fight for life, Ali. We fight for life in and out of the womb, but really we fight against
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child sex trafficking and have for 26 years because my sister was trafficked for six years.
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So our organization is called Share Together Now, meaning we share the responsibility of raising our
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kids in this country, of raising them right and protecting them. And unfortunately, evil is real
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and there are some who wish to harm the little ones. Yeah. How did you get into this industry? I know
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that you said that your sister was trafficked, but when and how did you decide, okay, I want to start
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doing something about this. Yeah, because not everybody whose family goes to that experience
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then becomes a 26-year life mission, you know? So honestly, you know, with Ilanka, I was a senior
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in high school, six years older than my sister. She was trafficked at 13. Wow. So for six years it was,
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and we didn't know that it was trafficking at the time until she returned home and then you realize
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it's disastrous, right? But somewhere in the process from us leaving South Africa right when she was
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rescued, which was always the plan, to come to the States and arriving in the United States within
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three months, God just laid on my heart and said, not another one. His heart is that not one more,
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you know, not another child should be sexually abused or trafficked. I had no expectation or idea
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that trafficking was going to be prevalent in the United States. We thought it's a land of the free,
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the home of the brave. This is no milk and honey. It's not going to happen here. And then,
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and this is 2001. Right. I saw it for the first time in Chattanooga, Tennessee, because we lived
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in Nashville and the penny dropped and it's like, and then of course, now we know today we're the
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most prevalent nation on earth, trafficking children. So it's been, but it was somewhere
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in there was just, God just said, not another one, you know? And so, and so it's just a, it's a,
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it's a mad mission for us. So with your sister, you said that you didn't realize at the time
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that it was trafficking. How, how did it happen? Ilonka won a competition,
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South African Idol, like American Idol. She's an incredible singer today, very healthy in Nashville,
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Tennessee. She has her own ministry. She's a recording artist, a worship artist, but she's
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had that gift. So she won this competition as a 13 year old, right? Against adults, legitimately.
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The record label courted the family for a year. We got to know them well, big label. They built
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trust. We traveled with them. And then the president of that label and the manager that
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was assigned to her first started with a rape, which is what they normally do. And then they
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trafficked her. So she was trafficked unconventionally through what people would think through a corporate
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setting. It's not always snatch and grab or always the runaway child. And then the police at that
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time then said, well, she's a runaway. And he said, no, we're a very tight family. We're
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raised by a single mom. My, my mind on mothers is next level. Moms are, they're everything.
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I mean, so we were very close and we knew faith is our foundation. So there's no way she was
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a runaway. This is a high functioning girl, field hockey player, singer. I mean, and all
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of a sudden, you know, she's gone. So, so, but still nobody called the trafficking or anything
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else. They just, and the police, honestly, about three months in, it's like, you know,
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what it's a runaway, you know, ironically, she was, she was rescued by an undercover cop
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who had worked the case previously. So that, that process, but throughout the process, my mom just
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always, and as an 18 year old, and I had to go do military service at that time because
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transitioned from high school. And so it was just a crazy, a crazy time, you know, but we always vowed
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when she, when she was back, we didn't know what that meant because physically back doesn't mean
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back, by the way, you know, she physically came back, but it took a decade in the United States
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to really have my sister back, just her having herself back, you know, and that's what I think
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so much of social media today, just go rescue the children. And I, yes, please. We need to rescue
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those, but it's, it's the starting gun on a, on a marathon. Yeah. Yeah. So you came to the United
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States, you saw an incident in Chattanooga, and then I'm guessing you started digging in to try to
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see how big this problem was in the United States. And we know that it's a big problem, but in those
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first days of your research, what did you discover that surprised you about trafficking here?
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It was a bizarre situation because I'm real time learning from my sister. Imagine this,
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there's one day we don't know because still she didn't talk because victims don't identify as
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victims. There's massive manipulation and confusion going on. So one day she said, she called a family
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meeting in Nashville and five of us sit and she goes, starts for like a five hour process and doesn't
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stop. And no one says a word. And she starts first account of a guy abusing her second account,
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third account in, in grotesque detail. And you're sitting there, I'm sitting there. I'm the oldest
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brother, quote unquote, dad in the house. And now you come with guilt. It happened on my watch. And you
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just, you're processing these emotions at the same time. I'll be honest. A hatred almost builds up.
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You want to go back to South Africa and just get everybody, but then your heart's broken for your
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sister. You can't, there's no way to make sense. So that's how I learned what trafficking was through
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Ilanka's experiences, but at the same time, also witnessing it in the U S and saying, but I'm seeing
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everything you're telling me I'm seeing. So learn how to profile, right? And there are good reasons to
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profile. I learned how to profile through Ilanka's eyes, but then I also saw her just, there was two
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attempted suicides in rehab. I mean, this is massive, right? So that, so it was this world of
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living it, trying to put a family back together and then seeing it at the same time in the world.
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And nobody sees it. It's like blind. Nobody said, like, can you people not see, you know? So from
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2001, I, and so then it became, okay, start looking for it. What I learned to look for now,
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go look for it. Right. And then see more and more of it and learn. There's no help. Yeah. And so
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progress that through 2000 and really only 2014 where legislation woke up and said, Oh, we got to
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change the laws because it's really not okay. You know, to call a 10 year old, 12 year old sex
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traffic victim, a prostitute. Right. And have them have a rap sheet for the rest of their life. But
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that's 2014, that's 13 years in the U S of just seeing almost nothing happen. Right. Now, great
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organizations fighting, but few and far between. Right. So it was a weird balance of I'm learning
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firsthand how they do it, what they say, what the manipulation, watching her go through rehab,
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literally watching a human being. That's my sister, but it's, but the person's not there.
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As far as the personality, this is a singer, you know, artists, they've, they're out there
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framboyant and completely in a shell, all of a sudden withdrawn, can't communicate. I mean,
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like what in the world? Yeah. So it was bizarre. Yeah. Yeah. Of learning. Right. But it was also,
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I think what's put me in a very unique position and look, it's all God's. It's all his, we're here to
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serve, but it's put me in a unique position in this fight because I, I, I, I learned about this
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fight, not just through a family member, but real time. And now we're fighting and we were fighting
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it as well. So we, we started the organization to proactively then go and say, okay, what's our role
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in this fight? Identify, highlight, and then it morphed into this huge thing that it is today, you know?
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You've implied that trafficking isn't always what we think. I think a lot of times we think about,
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or I think about the Southern border drug cartels, human traffickers that way, something that is
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very kind of obvious and violent or yeah, violent and targetable and kind of visible. But what you're
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describing, I don't think most people would have called trafficking. You probably wouldn't have
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called it trafficking in the beginning. So what does it look like? Not just in the entertainment
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industry, but in general, what should people kind of look out for with their kids or with their
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sister? What is it? Such a massively important question, right? Because first let's differentiate
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human trafficking, child sexual exploitation, sex trafficking, different universes, right? So
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let's, we're talking about sex here. We're talking about forced, forced sexual behavior, either for
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gifts, for goods, for money, for protection, not to harm family or all of the above. And in the longest
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case, it was all of the above. The conventional wisdom, you see the white van snatching a kid from a
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playground and it's a cartel and it's MS-13. Yes. Does that happen today? A hundred percent. Are the
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cartels trafficking kids? Absolutely. So everything people think it is, it is, but it's what they don't
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know that has made our country so vulnerable. It's that they don't know that this is a mist that is
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blown into suburbs and neighborhoods and it's in broad daylight. A kid goes to school, plays on the
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volleyball team and is literally being trafficked for sex. The fastest rising form and there's 25
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different forms of trafficking children, right? And adults, it's not just children. The fastest
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rising form is what's called familial trafficking, family members trafficking their own children. Now
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that is a very, very hard thing to detect when the victim does not identify as a victim.
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When the victim doesn't say, help me please. It's so hard to detect, Ali, you know, and then to
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prosecute, it's a nightmare almost. And so it's hidden in plain sight because the level of mind
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manipulation, and this is not conspiracy stuff. There's not a single human being. I start my TED talk
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with saying there's not a human being I meet and there's not none. I don't care if you're the toughest
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Navy SEAL that cannot be manipulated, not one. If I know your greatest desire in life, like really in
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your gut, the thing that you're most hungry for, and it may for you be your child or your job or an
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ambition, right? And your biggest fear, those two things. And I, and I then start investing time into
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you, dismantling you like a project. There's not a human being that cannot be manipulated. If you throw
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in force, if you throw in sexual abuse, if you throw in manipulation, threats, threatening family
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members, if you throw in fraud, right? Or debt bondage, there's no human being you can't. And
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do people say, well, why do women, why do we hear a woman says 30 years ago, I was raped and I never told
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anybody that's ridiculous. No, it's not. Right. No, it's not. It is not. God made us, you know,
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I was, I use birth for the same reason. If women could truly remember the moment of birth
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in its full capacity, you've done this once. Okay. My wife, you're a champion, mama, right? If they
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would remember, they would never give birth again. They would never just take that. Right. That's not,
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that's, that's willing, right? That's not even, you know, trauma. Now go rape a child, physically
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abuse them, manipulate them, threaten their family, alter their identity. All of them will go,
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you did this. You made me do this. I'm a good guy. You pulled the evil out of me. You made me do this.
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Do you remember when you said this and this on your Instagram? That's the post that made me come
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after you and not that girl. This is how they talk to the kids. Wow. So it's like you lose yourself.
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So now ask yourself, why is it that in the United States, the average age of children being groomed
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in traffic is 12 and tell you why go back to when you were 12 between 12 and 15, what happened to
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your body? You didn't even know yourself, right? Hormones through the roof. Can't talk to your dad.
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Don't know who to talk to. Most parents just give you a book. Mom's here. It's secret. If you had
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brothers, why is she in the bathroom the whole time? What's happening? There's this, there's you,
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you, you noticing boys, your hormones fire up, you becoming fertile, right? You noticing at your
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age of 12, boys, my age are idiots. I like older boys. This is every girl. So the predator understands
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that period of that child's life and said, I'm just looking now. All the girls are going through this
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beautiful for them. Okay. Sick. Now I'm looking for the one with a father wound. I'm looking for the one
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that needs attention. I'm looking for the one that's very poor. I'm looking for the one that's
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left alone. Looking for a crack, a vulnerability, and they take time. They will invest time. I always
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say this. I wish Christians would invest as much time into redeeming people as bad guys will invest
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time into robbing their youth. Absolutely. Yeah. And how does social media play into this? TikTok,
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Instagram, Snapchat, does that play a really big role in grooming these kids?
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It's taken a really big problem and it's made it the number one problem of our time.
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So you have a pimp and you have a buyer. They call them Johns. I don't like that because there are good
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people named John. Right. But a pimp and a buyer and in between you've got victims and then there's
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scouts and Ghislaine Maxwell, for instance, was a groomer. Okay. Epstein Maxwell, she's a bottom
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girl. She's called the bottom girl. She should be tried as a trafficker, by the way. But it's removed
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the middle ground where the buyer can directly talk to the child. And now you have children self-trafficking.
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Well, where's the pimp? It's the child. Well, why? Because she's sexting with a guy online
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who looks kind or she's engaging directly with the buyer. Now there's normally still a pimp
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somewhere will come in, but it's opened up the Komodo. There's not a single tech platform and
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these guys can't stand me and that's okay. I'm just calling facts. There's not a single tech platform
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on earth that's not being used to traffic children. I'm not saying by the corporation. I'm not saying
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Facebook as a corporate entity, but Facebook is a platform every minute of the day. Predators are
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using Facebook to profile and traffic children. TikTok, it's out of control. I'm so happy we're
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going after TikTok, right? My cry on these organizations is you've got a section that's
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protecting you. You go do something internally. You make it an internal mission, Facebook, to say
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children will not be profiled on our platform. They're not doing it, but they can. And my pet
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peeve with these tech platforms is I need to see them take initiative. Not because of some federal
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regulation. This is free market. Just from your own moral compass, do something. But it's being used.
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So the internet has, and then it just took all the, you used to have to go to a certain part of town,
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know a certain area to get a connection, to get to a girl, right? We can sit here right now on a laptop,
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no joke. And within 15 to 25 minutes, I'll tell you, we'll have north of a hundred men
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that'll say, I'm ready to buy a child. And we, and I can find you maybe 50 kids within a four or five
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mile radius where we're sitting. Wow. This is in every zip code in the United States.
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This is not what people think. And so how do you fight this fight? Top down. I was sitting in the
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White House with the president when he signed the executive order. He's a champion for saying
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children will not be trafficked, right? I got one of the pens he signed it with. That's great.
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We will not stop this unless it's fought in the home. Yeah. Parents taking ownership again of
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their children. Fathers stepping up. Yeah. And what does that, what does that look like for parents
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who maybe they're like, you know, my kid is 15 and they've had a phone since they were 12 and I don't
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know how to restate my authority over their social media and their cell phones and they want to give
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their kids freedom. So what's your recommendation for those parents? You have to let your child see.
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Your child's not going to hear you if you now want to recalibrate order in the house. Hey,
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what are you watching? Mom, you never ask me what I'm watching. Who are you talking to?
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You're going to look like a helicopter parent, which you should be. Yeah. Right. How do you do that?
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You take your teenager, you sit them down, you watch the movie Eight Days that we produced,
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right? And your teenager will look at you and say, if that's real, then I'm doing that. Yeah.
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Now I'm doing that. Help, you know, and then he may not ask for help or she may, but then when you
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come as a parent and say, now do you understand? Because when you just, you know, highlight the
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issue for them and I'd go as young as 10, but parental discretion on how you talk. And it's a
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way my five-year-old doesn't know the word sex trafficking. But if you ask my five-year-old right
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now, what does your dad do? She'll say he hunts bad guys and we protect girls. Well, what does that
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look like? And she'll tell you, there are some men that want to hurt little girls. She doesn't
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need to know the grotesque stuff, but she knows this is private space. These words, these things,
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if this happens, we need to teach our children what flags are. Children are being trafficked
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through Xbox games, online talking community. So when you highlight these issues to your children
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and then come and parent and say, hey, I need to know who your friends are. Look at your
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child's behavior. People don't change. It takes a massive event in someone's life to change
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personality. Near-death experience, being saved if you're a believer, but it takes something huge.
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Or sexual abuse, rape, bullying. So when a child's behavior changed, regardless of age,
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something happened, an event happened. Does it mean it's trafficking? I don't know. Maybe. But you need
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to start, so parents need to equip themselves with what is situational awareness? What does it look
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like? You know, language changing, gifts and goods, peer groups changing, you know? Kids don't get
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tattoos, but we read tattoos a lot. A child just being withdrawn all of a sudden, absent-minded for
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the teachers. A kid falls asleep in the classroom. We chalked so much in this country up to, oh, it's
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bullying. When it was actually trafficking. When it was actually sexual abuse. You know, so we need to
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really just get parents equipped to take ownership of their home, then their street, their school.
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Yeah. And not be afraid, even if, you know, obviously I'm not speaking of someone as someone
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who is a mom of a teenager, so I can't speak from experience in that area. But I know some parents,
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maybe they feel awkward because so far in their home, they haven't taken authority over their
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children. And so they think, my kid is 15, they're going to be out in a few years, it's too late.
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I'm sure that you would encourage them that it's never too late. Even if you feel awkward, even if
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you feel like maybe you don't have the best relationship with your child, it's not too late to take those
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steps to show them who is in charge and how much you care about them, right? Never. I'll give you an
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example. Let's call this girl Susie. It's not her name. She's 27. We rescue her, right?
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She was trafficked at 13. That's 14 years of trafficking. She's a mother. Never seen her
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child because the pimp took the child. You know, the number one key to restore Susie's life was
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bring her mother back and her father back in her life at 27. It's never too late. Exactly. Never.
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Okay. You invest. You keep bending that tree in the right direction because the world wants to go in
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the opposite direction. And today I did a special with Glenn, you know, today we've got a massive attack
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on our children in the classroom, comprehensive sex ed in the classroom. The children are being
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groomed in the classroom. This is a shocking thing to realize as an American to go, wait a minute. Are
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there really people out there who want children to be sexually abused? Yes. We want to normalize
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pedophilia in this country. It's all flying under the LBGTQ banner, which by the way, that group of
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people, the gay and lesbian group, they don't endorse this. I've asked them. They go, we don't see
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children exploited, but it's a way to get funding into the schools. And so they groom and normalize
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sexual behavior with children. And sexual language and talking about things like masturbation at a
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really young age, right? Four. Yeah. World Health Organization. And UNICEF and Planned Parenthood,
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right? UNICEF, Planned Parenthood, UNESCO. The curriculum is being voted into Texas now. It's in 27 states. This is a
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fact. And there's an outcry. They're desensitizing. And you can't change culture without changing
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language. So it's not prostitution. It's sex work. No, it's not sex work. There's abuse. No,
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there's prostitution. But the second you change that, now I can defend it. Well, a woman should be
00:24:24.980
allowed to work. And an employee, he should be allowed to employ her. He's an employer. He's giving
00:24:29.620
her a job. No, he's coercing, defrauding and manipulating, you know? So you change language,
00:24:35.040
right? It's man-boy love. It's not pedophilia. You know, man-boy organization. It's man-boy love.
00:24:42.160
Or a minor attracted person or whatever. Minor attracted. This is how they do it. And it's
00:24:46.600
in the school system. And so if you're a parent listening today and you have, catch yourself,
00:24:51.840
adopted to, yeah, I kind of was okay with the language changing. You can't be. You can't be.
00:24:58.040
And then for the fathers listening, and I got to do this, pornography is the entry drug
00:25:03.900
to child sex trafficking. Am I saying every guy who watches porn will one day physically put their
00:25:09.820
hands on a kid? No. But you're on that track. And now other life circumstances happen and you
00:25:16.600
accelerate the track. If you use drugs, right, and you think you can manage it, and all of a sudden you
00:25:22.240
go through a divorce, you're going to spiral. If you drink, it's just don't be on that track.
00:25:30.040
And if you're on the track, you're creating demand. And the only way we eradicate child
00:25:36.280
sex trafficking in this country is you've got to curb demand. You can arrest every El Chapo
00:25:40.660
in the world. You're not going to stop drug trafficking. Taking the kingpin away just gives
00:25:46.940
room for another kingpin to stand up. You need to stop demand. And unfortunately, the American male
00:25:53.120
is the buyer. 96% of the buyers are men. Okay. The majority on average of the men buying are north
00:26:01.500
of $100,000 a year and has two children. Wow. Let that sink in for a second. It's not what you think.
00:26:08.280
It's not the 18-year-old in his mom's basement, typically. These are high-functioning fathers.
00:26:15.400
Wow. Who will go pay for sex with children. That's deception. It's massive deception. And
00:26:23.260
we, in a culture now, it's got such deception. If we look at people saying, well, I want justice,
00:26:28.620
so I'm going to burn this building down. Yeah. You want law, but you operate in lawlessness?
00:26:34.300
That's deception. Right. Right. A person was killed, so we're going to go kill 10 people.
00:26:39.420
That's deception. That never produces fruit. It's impossible. Yeah. Impossible. So we
00:26:45.180
have to wake up and take ownership back. You're doing it here as a mom, but I've done this
00:26:52.460
for 26 years. This show you're doing right now. I want you to really hear me here. I
00:26:59.000
want to pour into you on air. Okay. We'll save lives. We'll restore families. We'll protect
00:27:06.560
girls and boys from not being trafficked. There's a girl right now that's going to learn about
00:27:11.540
this through her mom, who's currently engaging with a guy. How do you know, Yaku? Because
00:27:15.600
it floods in. I wake up in the morning. I mean, this morning I wake up and Dan Foncarcio
00:27:22.500
says, did you see from last night's segment what flooded in this morning? Parents saying,
00:27:28.040
my kid is in this right now. We've got to fight this right now. This show, you don't even
00:27:33.360
have an idea what you're doing here. It's God's work. So thank you for doing it, Ali. It's
00:27:40.040
important. Yeah. Well, one more thing I want to ask you about, you have talked about how defunding
00:27:44.920
the police or even just directing funds away from the local police has disastrous effects
00:27:51.500
on the fight against sex trafficking. You've talked about all the different facets that go
00:27:56.940
into just busting one ring or saving one child. Can you briefly just talk about that? Why local law
00:28:04.240
enforcement and supporting our local law enforcement is so important in this fight?
00:28:07.820
It's impossible. Not difficult. It's impossible to rescue children without law enforcement
00:28:13.880
because we have a law in this country. I'm 26 years in it. I know what I'm doing. Okay. We
00:28:20.480
profile can build cases. I can go tonight through a motel door and go rescue a child. Not being
00:28:26.360
egotistical, but the method of how I'll go to jail. If I enter that door without a warrant,
00:28:31.720
I have to work with local law enforcement. And what if we miss her by 10 minutes, which happens
00:28:38.200
almost every time. Wow. And now she's no longer in that county or that state. Now you better have
00:28:44.920
law enforcement pass on intel to law enforcement in another county, in another state. Defunding the
00:28:52.760
police is catastrophic in our fight because they always, always defund what? Special units first.
00:29:01.240
And these are special child trafficking task forces, which by the way, over 50% of our states don't have
00:29:08.540
one task force. And then 90% of the task forces is a crew of one to three people defending a whole
00:29:15.340
state. Wow. Come on. They're so strapped for cash. The regular police officer, you can't ask him to
00:29:22.320
fight child sex trafficking. He's overworked. We're 500 officers short in Dallas, Texas, permanently
00:29:27.820
pre-COVID and pre-the BLM movement. They are burdened, overworked, and not trained, by the way.
00:29:35.000
We train law enforcement. We train the FBI on how to profile. So the notion that we can,
00:29:42.100
and then you'll hear the same people, oh, I'm against child sex trafficking. Defund the police.
00:29:46.000
You don't have a clue, even how it works, right? And so it is a, it is an army of non-government
00:29:54.500
organizations, nurses, critical care, victim services, long-term facilities, law enforcement,
00:30:00.500
judges, district attorneys, lawyers, to rescue one child. Because when you rescue that child,
00:30:06.040
it's not over. There's a trial. There's police evidence. There's forensics. There's doctor's
00:30:12.420
reports. I mean, it's, it is a laughable notion that you can have a society without law enforcement,
00:30:19.520
right? But in this fight, yeah, it's, and, and unfortunately, the pimps have been running
00:30:25.200
rampant. They are literally going to the cities where law enforcement are being defunded.
00:30:30.820
LA County is a third world country disaster zone right now for trafficking because they defund police.
00:30:39.200
Wow. The pimps go, they're going to go to the path of least resistance.
00:30:42.720
Of course. Of course. Criminals always do. And you said that Donald Trump has been
00:30:46.360
a big help in, in fighting against this. Is that correct?
00:30:50.040
First in history, first president of any country in the history of the world to number one, say,
00:30:55.880
I recognize child sex trafficking is a thing and it's in my country. Most deny it, right? And this is
00:31:02.300
as good as Ronald Reagan was. He had a, you know, mandate against child porn, but nobody until Trump,
00:31:08.640
not Obama, not Bush. And I fought this under three U.S. presidents. Okay. Trust me. I tried.
00:31:14.080
I tried with, with, with President Bush, President Obama, zero, zero top down support,
00:31:21.000
meaning an executive order got signed by President Trump and he's, and I was there,
00:31:26.200
instructed the FBI, you will hunt traffickers. Not just, we don't stand for it. I'm going to fund
00:31:32.260
the FBI. We're going to set up task forces. The U.S. Marshal Service has never fought child
00:31:37.020
trafficking. They just did three huge things. Why? The president empowered them with an authority,
00:31:43.900
form a task force, funded it and said, go find the kids. That's never happened before. So that alone,
00:31:50.520
in my eyes alone, forget about anything else, politics in this fight we're in. And by the way,
00:31:56.200
two weeks before that, I stood with him at a March for Life where he was the first president to show up
00:31:59.900
at the March for Life, right? That alone is a champion for me because we, we, we've been craving
00:32:08.200
that kind of support top down with, with the authorities as well forever.
00:32:14.520
Can you tell everyone how they can support you, where they can follow you, how they can help your
00:32:20.860
We have a show on Instagram that we use solely for this, right? So this is, we just pump out
00:32:28.200
Thank you very much. Thank you. Um, so their Instagram, uh, yaku.boyence and Instagram,
00:32:33.120
and in our organization is share together now, share together now.org. Their parents can learn how to
00:32:39.940
profile, how to talk to their kids. They can watch the film eight days that we produced for this purpose.
00:32:46.380
We produced it for the community. Say this, this is in your neighborhood, you know? And so, um,
00:32:52.300
first realize it's real. It is in your neighborhood. It's in your kid's school. You know, it's in your
00:32:58.040
kid's school in the curriculum, but there's children in your kid's school that are being
00:33:01.360
sexually exploited. And so we need to take ownership of our communities back.
00:33:06.220
Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate everything that you and your family do.
00:33:10.680
And thank you for taking the time to come on this show. I do encourage everyone to follow you on
00:33:16.160
Instagram and support your organization however they can. There are a lot of people who have been asking me
00:33:21.240
to talk about this, who are so curious and want to protect their kids and protect their family. So
00:33:25.680
again, thank you so much guys. I could have talked to Yako for four more hours. There were so many
00:33:32.900
questions that I wanted to ask him. So please go support him and follow him. He has so much
00:33:38.840
information, but I want to reemphasize something that he talked about the importance of fighting this
00:33:45.220
in our homes and making sure that we are paying attention to the warning signs that don't
00:33:50.640
necessarily say this is child trafficking or this is grooming your child. And one of those things
00:33:56.720
is what's going on in our public school system as far as sex education goes. So he talked about there
00:34:04.120
are several organizations, the WHO, which we have talked about on this podcast. Go back and listen
00:34:09.340
to an episode from a few months ago called Who is WHO? Where we talk about the leadership there,
00:34:17.580
the initiatives there, why it is such a corrupt organization, why it is so good that President
00:34:23.040
Trump a couple months after I recorded that podcast, not due to the podcast, but it just happened to be
00:34:28.480
after I recorded the podcast that he decided that we were going to get out of the WHO. We were going to
00:34:34.540
stop funding the WHO. That was a good decision because of what the WHO supports. They work together
00:34:41.340
with organizations like Planned Parenthood with UNESCO and they have come together to create this sexual
00:34:48.440
education curriculum for our children starting at the age of four that talks about sexually explicit
00:34:55.820
subjects that are inappropriate for children that put ideas and put images in children's mind
00:35:03.260
for the purpose. They would not admit this, but for the purpose of sexualizing kids and making them
00:35:10.100
comfortable with sexual conversations and comfortable with sexual topics, sexual experiences, sexual
00:35:16.220
relationships at an age where they need to be protected from that kind of information, protected from that
00:35:21.840
kind of conversation instead of brought into it by teachers and by administrators who do not know
00:35:27.820
your children and do not care about your children in the same way that you do. So it is incumbent upon
00:35:32.760
parents to make sure that your kids are not in a system where they are being indoctrinated with this kind of
00:35:38.520
stuff. You guys know I talk about so often on this podcast the importance, I believe, of taking your
00:35:43.980
kids out of the public school system. And I know I get a lot of messages from wonderful, wonderful public
00:35:50.100
school teachers who say that you disagree with that or from parents who love their public school in their
00:35:56.180
area. And I understand there are lots of great public schools. There are lots of great public school
00:36:01.400
teachers. That is absolutely true. And if your child goes to a public school, do I think that they are
00:36:06.400
going to, they are going to end up horribly and that their life is going to be ruined? Not at all. Of course, I
00:36:12.500
believe God is totally sovereign and can work in anything. However, as Votie Bauckham says, you cannot send
00:36:18.560
your child to Caesar and be surprised when they come back Romans. When we send our child to the state to get
00:36:25.680
their values, to get their sex education, to get their moral education, even to get their history, rather than
00:36:32.400
learning those things primarily in the home or learning those things from a school where the parents
00:36:37.740
actually have a say in what their child learns, we are putting them at the whim of the state. We are
00:36:45.600
putting them basically in a position of being vulnerable to whatever the state wants to indoctrinate
00:36:52.200
them with. And we know because of the public school unions, because of the people that are behind the
00:36:57.440
public education system, that it is going to be a left-wing worldview. And the left-wing worldview
00:37:03.100
looks to separate the parent and the child by replacing the authority of the parent in the
00:37:10.680
authority of the family with the authority of the state, which is, in the case of a child, the public
00:37:17.560
school system. And they would like to make it to where a child is sexually autonomous at a very
00:37:26.380
young age. This is the left-wing communistic worldview. If you read someone like, for example,
00:37:33.920
Sophie Lewis, who is a self-proclaimed communist, and she has written several books, she talks about
00:37:41.060
the importance of kids not belonging to families, not belonging to their mother and father, but
00:37:46.480
quote, belonging to themselves. The inevitable consequence of that is going to be children put in
00:37:53.600
mature and even sexual situations in which they should actually be protected from by their parents
00:38:00.540
rather than placed into by the state or by the public school system. So it's so important, parents,
00:38:08.080
that if you cannot take your kids out of public school, which is my first recommendation, is homeschool
00:38:13.000
or private school or charter school. That, again, is why school choice, something that exclusively
00:38:18.380
Republicans and conservatives support. That is why school choice is so important, so that a child's safety
00:38:24.400
and future in education is not dictated by their zip code. But if you cannot take your child out of the
00:38:31.840
public school that they are assigned to because of their zip code, then be as involved as you possibly can,
00:38:37.340
whether you are a public school teacher, whether you are a parent, push back against the union, push back
00:38:42.360
against the sexual education that is being rammed down your child's throat, that is completely inappropriate
00:38:47.740
for their age, that should be coming from you and not from their teachers. Make sure that you make the other
00:38:54.520
parents that are in your group or are in your child's class aware of the things that are going on, push back
00:39:00.700
against any kind of curriculum that does not align with the values that you want your child learning.
00:39:06.740
Speak up. Don't be afraid to say something to the school board. Don't be afraid to push back against
00:39:13.240
the teachers union, public school teacher. Don't be afraid to push back against these institutions that
00:39:19.380
are actually working against your child in so many ways. So as Jaco said, this starts at home. This starts
00:39:27.900
in the places where children spend a lot of their times and parents, a lot of their time and parents do not
00:39:33.400
be afraid to take authority over your child. God gave you the responsibility of being their parent
00:39:39.400
for a reason. You are the best teacher. Parents, I told this to a mom the other day who was struggling
00:39:44.560
with virtual learning with her child who has a special needs, who is on the autism spectrum. I said
00:39:49.820
this to her and I mean it. And I'm saying this to all of you. You are the best teacher that your child
00:39:55.420
will ever have. It does not matter if you have no teaching experience. It doesn't matter if you have
00:39:59.980
your education degree. It doesn't matter whether or not you fully understand the math material or
00:40:06.160
whatever it is that they are learning. You are the best teacher that your child will ever have because
00:40:11.820
you care about them more than any teacher ever will. You brought them home from the hospital or
00:40:17.640
you adopted them or you got them out of the foster care system. However, you became their parent.
00:40:23.060
You put a lot of effort into bringing that child into the world and you have given everything,
00:40:26.940
sacrificed everything to make sure that they have a good life. And no other person on earth
00:40:32.620
has ever done that. You care about, you know your child better than anyone else. It is your
00:40:37.180
responsibility to teach them, to care for them, to instill them with the values that you want to
00:40:41.760
instill them with. God will equip you to do that. You are fully prepared to do that. And God has chosen
00:40:47.540
this generation for such a time as this to be the generation that he wants them to be. And he has made
00:40:54.340
you and me their parents. And he has given us the ability to do that. You have all the equipment
00:41:00.880
that you need in his word. You have all the equipment that you need in the church. You have
00:41:04.800
all the equipment that you need in the God-given wisdom that he has given you. So take that
00:41:10.960
responsibility seriously. It starts at home. It starts in the school. It starts in the conversations
00:41:16.220
that you have with your kid. It starts in taking away their phone, making sure they're not on social
00:41:21.140
media or checking in on their social media. It starts with being a parent to our kids.
00:41:28.240
So that's just what I wanted to end with. This is so important. This is why policy matters also. Not
00:41:34.060
just parenting, but also policy. This is why policy matters in who is on your school board. This is why
00:41:40.600
your local representatives matter. This is why your city council matters. This is why your mayors matter.
00:41:45.600
Not only do they have an influence over what goes on in your schools, but they also have an influence
00:41:51.480
over what goes on in the police force. Funding the police, more funding for the police is going to
00:41:57.740
also be something that keeps you and your family safe, your children safe. Pushing back against these
00:42:04.940
technology companies that put more effort into fighting opinions that they don't like than
00:42:12.120
fighting against child exploiters. So just ensure that your energy and your time and your focus is
00:42:19.220
going in the right direction for the glory of God and for the protection of your kids. That is our
00:42:24.440
responsibility. And God has equipped us and called us to do that. Okay. Just wanted to end there. Thank
00:42:30.140
you guys so much for listening. I hope this was an encouragement to you. I will see you back here on Monday.