Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 31 ｜ Trump： A Negative & A Positive

00:00:00.040 What's up, guys? Welcome to Relatable. I am your host, Allie Stuckey. If you have not already,

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00:00:22.700 in my normal place next week. Okay, I hope that everyone is having a great week. Today,

00:00:28.660 we are going to talk about two subjects, both kind of involving President Trump. On the first

00:00:34.280 subject, I believe that President Trump is missing the mark, actually. And on the second subject,

00:00:39.980 it seems that the president is hitting the mark. He's doing a great job. The first subject is social

00:00:44.900 media censorship and possible government involvement in social media. And the second is President Trump's

00:00:51.000 elevated approval rating in the black community. So first, I will be talking to Amelia Irving from

00:00:57.420 Young Voices in USA Today regarding social media censorship. And then I will be talking to radio

00:01:03.620 host Jesse Lee Peterson about the state of the black community and Trump's effect on it.

00:01:08.400 Even though these two subjects have nothing to do with one another, really, we are talking about them

00:01:13.880 both because they are both in the news right now and they show the goods and the bads of Trumpism.

00:01:19.680 So first, let us talk social media censorship. As you know, stories about Facebook, Twitter,

00:01:25.740 YouTube, which is owned by Google, censoring conservatives are in the news every few

00:01:31.720 weeks. A few months ago, Trump supporting social media stars Diamond and Silk went to testify before

00:01:37.520 Congress about being censored by Facebook. Just the other day, Facebook took down my PragerU video

00:01:43.860 on masculinity because it apparently, quote, violated their community guidelines. PragerU tweeted

00:01:50.340 about it. It got thousands of I think now tens of thousands of retweets. And then after it was

00:01:56.120 retweeted a bunch of times, Facebook apologized on Twitter and said that they put all of the videos

00:02:01.260 that they took down from PragerU back up. There have been complaints about shadow banning of

00:02:07.360 conservatives on social media, including Instagram, Twitter, meaning that posts from conservatives are

00:02:12.920 deprioritized so that fewer people see these posts, even if they follow the person that is posting

00:02:19.300 them. So as a conservative, as you could guess, I really don't like any of this. I do think in most

00:02:26.160 cases that this is a very real problem. Facebook and Twitter, and I'm sure Google, too, are all left

00:02:31.520 leaning. Jack Dorsey, who is the CEO of Twitter, admitted that YouTube videos that are in no way

00:02:38.400 controversial, but maybe have one conservative comment are being demonetized. I'm sure that

00:02:44.200 they are like most leftists who truly think that someone saying that illegal immigration is a crime

00:02:50.420 or that Jesus is the son of God or a biological boy is a boy. It's all hate speech. And so it doesn't

00:02:56.480 surprise me that we are getting censored. We are saying things that are blatantly true and yet today

00:03:01.640 are considered controversial and bigoted. But but I don't think that it is true censorship

00:03:08.100 in all cases. I think that there are people who think that they are getting shadow bans, but really

00:03:15.320 maybe some of these people just aren't as aren't posting as interesting things anymore. For example,

00:03:21.400 engagement on my conservative millennial Facebook page has gone way down in the past year. But that's

00:03:27.240 because I don't post hardly any original content on the page anymore. I just share posts from my

00:03:32.320 CRTV Facebook page and engagement on my CRTV Facebook page is great.

00:03:36.980 Some people need to come to terms with the fact that maybe their content is not good or interesting,

00:03:43.000 and that is why people are not following them or sharing their posts. I think it's important to

00:03:47.620 probably consider that option. I think it makes some people feel better to say, well, I don't have a lot

00:03:54.320 of followers on Twitter because Twitter is stifling me. Maybe, but maybe not. I don't think Twitter

00:04:01.160 has time to go to every single account and say conservative. Well, I'm going to shut you down.

00:04:06.800 I just don't. Like I said, in some cases, maybe many cases, absolutely. But in all cases,

00:04:13.540 no way. Now, all of that said, I do agree that even some censorship of someone strictly because of

00:04:20.480 their political view is wrong. It's dangerous to society and it is unhealthy for a republic like ours.

00:04:27.720 See, these social media companies claim that they are trying to make social media safer for people,

00:04:34.140 and they think that that is a noble pursuit. The problem with that, though, is their definition

00:04:39.360 of safety versus danger. They believe safety, it seems, is everyone agreeing with them. Someone

00:04:45.480 making a comment that doesn't align with the far left to them is dangerous. And so to save everyone

00:04:51.420 from their version of danger, they have to censor conservatives. I mean, if you guys remember

00:04:56.040 my PragerU video, make men masculine again, nothing I said, nothing I said would have at all been

00:05:02.300 controversial even 10 years ago, that good men are good for society, bad men are bad for society,

00:05:08.400 that we should be raising our boys to be responsible men that take care of their families

00:05:13.080 and communities. Apparently that is bigoted and hateful and wrong. I've gotten plenty of comments

00:05:18.200 that have told me as much. So what we're going to see is a growth, an expansion of the left's

00:05:24.860 definitions of hate and danger. And we will see social media companies latching on to these

00:05:29.500 growing definitions because a, they agree with the expansion of definitions themselves and

00:05:34.480 be, they fear the liberal mob, which has been proven to be an effective force in ruining people's

00:05:40.480 lives. So I concur with the stance that these social media companies have Orwellian power when

00:05:47.420 it comes to pervading information and consequently forming our thoughts on things. But I disagree with

00:05:53.860 people on the left and the right who say that the government should swoop in and do something.

00:05:58.640 I'm just a little bit skeptical about that. President Trump, presumably after watching the

00:06:04.140 Fox and Friends segment last weekend, where they reported on PragerU videos being taken off Facebook,

00:06:09.160 tweeted this in a three part tweet storm. He said, social media is totally discriminating against

00:06:15.960 Republican slash conservative voices. Speaking loudly and clearly for the Trump administration,

00:06:21.220 we won't let that happen. They are closing down the opinions of many people on the right while at

00:06:28.420 the same time doing nothing to others. Censorship is a very dangerous thing, he said, and absolutely

00:06:35.860 impossible to police. If you are weeding out fake news, there is nothing so fake as CNN and MSNBC.

00:06:43.840 And yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed. I get used to it and watch with a grain of

00:06:49.220 salt or don't watch it all. And then the last tweet, too many voices are being destroyed, some good and

00:06:55.500 some bad, and that cannot be allowed to happen. Who is making the choices? Because I can already tell you

00:07:01.360 that too many mistakes are being made. Let everybody, everybody participate, good and bad, and we will all

00:07:07.820 just have to figure it out, exclamation mark. So, okay. Okay. I agree with some parts of this.

00:07:16.180 Mass censorship of one political view is bad. And I agree that it should be on the user or the viewer

00:07:23.980 to be able to distinguish between what is right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Totally agree

00:07:28.840 with that. What I don't agree with is this one sentence that people seem to be latching on to,

00:07:34.600 and that is his insistence that, quote, we won't let that happen. Well, how? To me, that is a

00:07:41.620 contradiction. In one breath, he says people should be responsible for figuring it out themselves,

00:07:47.620 which I am totally on board with. And then he says that his administration won't let censorship

00:07:53.260 happen. I think that those two ideas are just a little bit contradictory, the censorship and people

00:08:00.260 should just figure it out on their own because that would include companies. I tweeted this simple

00:08:05.380 statement this weekend. Uh, I don't like social media censorship, but I really don't like the idea

00:08:10.840 of the government getting involved in the end. That's going to hurt conservative voices more than

00:08:14.980 help. Uh, well, I got a lot of hate for that tweet. Um, but I didn't get hate from the left about this.

00:08:20.800 I got hate from the alt-right who thought that this was a very stupid take, according to them. 0.98

00:08:27.140 Gab, who ironically is trying to be a competitor to current social media platforms, 0.99

00:08:32.400 called me a basic B word. Uh, they hate me. They've been really rude to me on Twitter in the past.

00:08:38.820 They're really nothing more than an alt-right front group and clearly don't value diversity of

00:08:43.020 opinion the way they say they do because they vilify people like me and everyone else who doesn't

00:08:47.320 agree with them. Uh, they and others like them would rather have the government intervene apparently

00:08:52.200 so that we can definitely all be crushed, including them. So that makes a lot of sense. Um,

00:08:57.500 there is though some nuance to this conversation and to explore that, I want to talk to an editorial

00:09:03.760 intern at USA Today who wrote a piece back in July arguing for the government to stay out of social

00:09:08.920 media. I thought it was a really good, thoughtful piece and I'm going to bring her on to chat with

00:09:13.460 me. Amelia, thanks so much for joining me. Thanks so much for having me. So I read your piece in USA

00:09:18.700 Today arguing against government intervention in social media companies, but for everyone who hasn't

00:09:24.880 read that piece, can you kind of summarize your position? Sure. It's been in the news. It seems

00:09:29.360 like at least once a month since probably Trump got elected and we saw this with the diamond and silk

00:09:35.520 hearing that Congress did a couple months ago. And most recently Congress had another hearing with

00:09:41.220 some representatives from Twitter and YouTube and Facebook. And I found the whole thing very alarming.

00:09:46.600 You know, there are Republican Congress people and Democratic Congress people talking about

00:09:50.660 how, you know, Facebook or Twitter has a monopoly or we should regulate them like they're a public

00:09:56.420 utility. And I think that that's absolutely the wrong thing to do. I think people forget that when

00:10:02.100 we give the government that much power over our lives, especially when we give them power over our

00:10:06.980 speech, we're opening the door to some of the worst sorts of tyranny. And I find that really

00:10:11.900 frightening. So a lot of people say that the social media companies, these big tech companies have

00:10:16.720 monopoly on the industry and via antitrust laws, they need to be broken up. Do you buy into that

00:10:23.140 argument? I don't. So in the nineties, there was an antitrust case against Microsoft. At the time,

00:10:29.660 Internet Explorer was used by anywhere from 90 to 90% of all desktop computers. And the antitrust case

00:10:39.240 actually failed. They didn't take any action against Internet Explorer or Microsoft. But we saw the

00:10:45.420 introduction of Google Chrome and that just completely blew Internet Explorer out of the

00:10:50.860 water. So I think when people say, oh, well, obviously Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, they

00:10:55.640 all have a monopoly. Google has a monopoly. I think, yeah, sure. They control a lot of market power right

00:11:01.280 now. But we forget that in the tech space, especially these things are never permanent. You can always get

00:11:07.160 knocked off by some random college kid coming up with great ideas in their dorm room or in their

00:11:12.860 parents' garage. And I think that we really need to remember that innovation is something that we

00:11:18.460 should encourage, not discourage, and that we should always count on those things. I am really

00:11:23.160 surprised by the number of conservatives who don't agree with this position of the government not

00:11:28.680 intervening in social media companies. Why do you think it is that so many conservatives are leaning in

00:11:37.000 the direction of government intervention? I think we have this tendency to really seize power when we

00:11:43.100 have it. We say, oh, we have the White House. We have the Congress. We should just take this

00:11:47.440 opportunity right now and push through whatever legislation we want and hit back, own the lives

00:11:53.320 forever. But you always forget government power always changes hands eventually. You know, Trump's not

00:11:59.460 going to be president forever. We're not going to have a Republican Congress forever. And we see that

00:12:05.120 people lose sight of the fact that we do change power often. You know, even Democrats were falling

00:12:10.160 short on this when talking about President Obama's sort of expansion of the presidential power.

00:12:15.620 And then Trump can come in and reverse all of his decisions just because he took these actions alone.

00:12:21.560 And now Trump has all this additional power. So I think Democrats and Republicans should really be

00:12:25.960 coming on together on limiting government intervention. And because that will benefit all of us in the long run,

00:12:32.400 where we all have a bigger opportunity to share ideas, where we all have sort of equal opportunity

00:12:37.620 to interact in the marketplace. So the left and the right have two competing goals when it comes to

00:12:45.220 those who believe in government intervention. The left says that they want people to not be able to say

00:12:50.840 racist things on social media. The right say we want government to intervene so no one is discriminated

00:12:56.220 against. If those two goals are competing, then who's to say who is going to win if the government

00:13:03.500 does intervene? Yeah, I definitely think that that's true. And I think especially if we're talking

00:13:09.320 about having some sort of regulatory agency that would one day regulate social media, if conservatives

00:13:15.260 are saying, oh, we don't want these companies to be able to discriminate against different voices,

00:13:20.420 and Democrats are saying we don't want people to be able to share fake news, or make of these

00:13:26.380 audacious conspiracy theories. But we forget that, especially if you turn this into some sort of

00:13:32.520 bureaucracy, you completely lose control over it. Even elected representatives lose control over these

00:13:37.920 things to where it's so distant from all the people that we have no control over anymore. And I think that

00:13:45.080 people should run away from these things, not run towards them.

00:13:48.280 So talk about the real life consequences if the government does decide to intervene in social

00:13:53.520 media. So I think one of the one of the solutions that people have been talking about is regulating

00:13:59.060 social media companies like their public public utility. So you know, they can't interfere with

00:14:05.440 anything that's posted, which I think if they're going to do any sort of regulation, this is probably the

00:14:09.900 least harmful one. But the biggest problem with it is that it can it pretty much it sort of built a

00:14:16.800 moat around these companies so that their competitors can't always get into the marketplace

00:14:21.360 with them. If there's so much limitation on what you can do to innovate and be different from your

00:14:26.560 competitors, then we're just sort of shutting down this market. And that's sort of a really silly thing

00:14:31.480 to do. We don't know what the future of social media will look like. So I think making it a public

00:14:35.620 utility would be completely ignoring the future. And with antitrust, I really fear this revival of

00:14:43.080 so called hipster antitrust policy, where we need to break up all these big corporations, especially in

00:14:48.340 the tech world, just because they're big, a lot of people use them. Well, a lot of people use them

00:14:53.580 because they're good, and we like them, and they add value to our lives. So I don't think that we should

00:14:59.500 punish companies for that. I think that whole attitude is just going to lead us to disaster where big

00:15:04.160 companies are broken up, just because they're big, where we're hurting companies that have done good

00:15:09.380 things. So there seems to just be kind of a lack of optimism when it comes to breaking up these

00:15:14.940 companies, like competition is not going to be enough. We thought that about MySpace, though,

00:15:19.480 when MySpace was the only one in the industry, but then Mark Zuckerberg came along and introduced

00:15:25.080 Facebook. So I don't really understand the conservatives who don't think that the free

00:15:30.940 market can come through for us. Yeah, I don't fully understand that either. I mean, part of it is

00:15:35.680 how smart are these alt-right type companies. I'm not trying to like insult them, but I don't know

00:15:41.560 if they're fully thinking through like their actions. If anyone's going to be targeted by the

00:15:46.340 government, it's probably them. I don't know why they would think that that would somehow help them

00:15:51.600 if the government decided to regulate Facebook. Normally, when the government begins to regulate

00:15:56.140 an industry that pushes out all the small competitors, because they can't afford the lawyers and all the

00:16:01.820 red tape, that's just too difficult for small companies or entrants into any new market.

00:16:07.920 So what do you think the solution is to the censorship that's happening of conservatives?

00:16:12.900 I think that what we've been doing is probably the best option where we band together and we talk

00:16:17.860 on these platforms. We call out the companies that are doing wrong things and we say,

00:16:24.220 hey, you can't do this. This is so silly. You can't take down these videos just because you don't 0.97

00:16:29.080 like them or just because a bunch of liberals are flagging them as hate speech or offensive.

00:16:34.780 And we also need to think long term and ask them to start looking at their community policies and

00:16:40.160 maybe rethinking some of the offensive language, stipulations or that sort of thing. Because that

00:16:45.740 is so incredibly subjective that I don't really see any way for that to be good in the long run.

00:16:52.600 But yeah. And I think a lot of people are so skeptical that we could do this. But I think

00:16:59.600 if things get bad enough, we should think about having our own platform or someone opening up a

00:17:04.740 platform that's just open to everyone and has like very limited censorship only in cases where it

00:17:11.120 like violates the law. I know that people are skeptical that could happen. But I think, again,

00:17:16.780 in the tech space, anything can happen. We shouldn't discount that and we shouldn't like close off that

00:17:22.580 opportunity just because it seems unlikely. Yes, I totally agree with you. Well, I really

00:17:27.540 appreciate you talking to me. I learned a lot from our conversation. Can you tell everyone where

00:17:32.560 they can find you? Yeah, I'm on Twitter and Instagram as Amelia Irvin, my name, and then the number

00:17:39.400 three. And you are also a contributor to Young Voices. Can you tell everyone what the website

00:17:45.200 is for Young Voices? Yes, it's www.young-voices.com. So everyone go check that out. Thank you so much,

00:17:54.780 Amelia, for joining me. I really appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me. So I hope that that

00:18:00.060 added some clarity to the conversation. And now I want to shift gears to something totally different,

00:18:07.760 but still involving President Trump. So Trump may be wrong to try to intervene in social media

00:18:12.760 companies business, at least in my opinion. But he is not wrong, apparently, as the numbers show in how

00:18:18.040 he is handling the economy. One stat in particular that's gotten a lot of attention because it

00:18:23.300 contrasts with the constant accusations of him being a racist is the black unemployment rate. It's at

00:18:29.360 an 18 year low. A recent poll said that the black approval rating of Trump is 36 percent. I think

00:18:35.940 that was Rasmussen, which is probably a little high. It's probably about 15 percent. But the

00:18:40.800 fact that it's in double digits at all is a big deal. As you know, black people traditionally vote

00:18:45.760 Democrat. And a lot of people are talking about this shift in the black community that's happening.

00:18:51.100 So I wanted to talk to Jesse Lee Peterson, who is a conservative radio host. He is also black

00:18:56.380 and he specializes in this topic. Jesse, thank you so much for joining me.

00:19:01.680 I appreciate you having me on. Thank you.

00:19:04.160 So I think that you are such an important voice within the black community because the advice that

00:19:09.380 you give is just common sense, but it really seems to not be all that common. Do you think that

00:19:17.380 that's catching on within your community? Do you think that there's a political change happening?

00:19:22.380 Absolutely. And for a couple of reasons. One is that when we talk, when I talk to black Americans

00:19:28.960 about what's happening, I get them to see that they're being used by the Democratic Party,

00:19:34.420 the liberal media, and some of the right or Republicans, and that the Democrats have been

00:19:39.380 using them for the last 50 to 60 years. And I also talk to them about dropping that anger

00:19:45.040 that stars in their homes, because once they drop that anger, they can really see who their friends

00:19:50.220 are and who the enemies are. So that's having an impact. But without a doubt, the great white hope,

00:19:56.920 President Trump, has had a major impact on black Americans, men and women, and especially the men,

00:20:04.480 because they can see where the president is coming from. They see that he is not afraid.

00:20:10.260 They see that when he is attacked, he attacked back. He's putting the country first.

00:20:15.040 Most more black Americans are working now as a result of President Trump than they did under

00:20:21.800 Barack Obama. Even young Americans are now working. And so they are seeing this firsthand,

00:20:29.820 unlike before the president got there, the media would not really report what was going on.

00:20:36.360 But because of the president, the blacks can see it for themselves. And the last report I saw, 0.91

00:20:41.500 I believe I could be wrong, but I think it was like 30% of black Americans are now supporting

00:20:48.880 this president. And we have not seen that in years. So we know that the black unemployment rate

00:20:55.460 is at an 18 year low. But what we hear from the mainstream media is that President Trump is a racist 0.98

00:21:01.700 and that any black person that supports President Trump is supporting a racist. Do you think the black 0.99

00:21:08.120 community is kind of waking up and saying, no, I am going to vote not according to identity politics,

00:21:13.440 but according to what benefits me economically?

00:21:18.240 You know, absolutely. The media, the media, the people who are saying that this is not true

00:21:23.320 about the president popularity with black people are the same people who said that the president

00:21:28.700 would not win, that he would not become the president. Right. So we can no longer believe them

00:21:34.560 anyway, but I have no doubt. And I run into them all the time. I hear them. They call into my show,

00:21:41.440 my radio and TV show, and they are supporting this president like 90 going North. Um, the, uh,

00:21:48.480 they liked this president where he ran the apprentice, the TV show. They had a lot of respect for him

00:21:54.660 then. And now that they see him again in operation, uh, they are respecting him now. They really love his

00:22:01.760 courage. Also the media and others have not been able to prove that there was a, uh, collusion

00:22:09.160 going on with Russia and the president. Everything they have said about this man has not fanned out

00:22:14.580 for them. And so, uh, blacks are starting to see and think for themselves. That's why they don't, 1.00

00:22:21.300 the Democrats, the wicked witch of the West, Maxine Waters with the low IQ. The last thing that they 0.99

00:22:28.000 want is for blacks to pay attention to this man because they know when black people pay attention, 0.99

00:22:35.060 they're going to start waking up. They're going to start thinking for themselves and it's over for

00:22:39.520 the democratic party. It's a nightmare for the Democrats that this is happening. Right. Well,

00:22:44.320 well now we're hearing about Omarosa as she is going around saying that she has a tape of the president

00:22:49.920 saying the N word. Um, and the left is absolutely harping on this. Do you think that line of attack

00:22:56.380 is effective in holding back support of the president from the black community?

00:23:02.120 No, if they, if there is a tape and every other word, the president is using the N word. If that's

00:23:08.800 true, it's not going to impact the black community in a negative way. No. And the reason is because

00:23:16.440 they respect this president. They know that he's under attack and they don't lie nor do they trust

00:23:22.500 Omarosa anyway. They know that this president gave Omarosa her first chance in life. You know,

00:23:30.580 on the apprentice, she became popular by being on there. And then he hired her at the White House

00:23:36.660 after firing her from the apprentice. And so they, they trust the president more so than Omarosa. So

00:23:44.200 if there is a tape and they hear him using the N word, it's not going to matter because they know

00:23:49.760 Omarosa cannot be trusted. Who turned on people that helped them along the way? You know, Omarosa

00:23:57.260 has been helped by this president. And rather than appreciating that and moving along in life,

00:24:02.720 she has turned on him for fame and glory. She would never be trusted by anyone again.

00:24:08.560 Even the liberal media who are now using her to try to hurt this president, they don't really trust her 0.64

00:24:14.680 either. But when so when they're done with her, they're going to kick her to the curb. It's over

00:24:19.360 for Omarosa. So the left is obviously using Omarosa in the same way that you say that the Democrats have

00:24:25.400 used the black community for a long time to gain votes. Are black people waking up to that waking up 1.00

00:24:33.580 to the fact that they are being used by the left? Well, in the past, they have been able to use the word

00:24:39.880 racism. And because there was no other positive examples out there for black Americans,

00:24:46.300 they believed for a long time that the Democratic Party was for them, that the Democratic Party

00:24:51.200 cared about them because they always used that word racism. And blacks, most of them were very angry at

00:24:57.300 the time, which starts in the home, by the way, but they believed a lie that it was from white people.

00:25:02.140 And they would just go into this trance and go into the voting booth and vote for the Democrats.

00:25:07.660 That is changing because of this president, they're thinking for themselves. And also a lot of them

00:25:13.880 are starting to realize that there's no such thing as racism, no such thing as racism, sexism,

00:25:20.880 homophobism, Islamophobism, no isms. That our battle is a spiritual battle, a warfare between good and

00:25:28.860 evil, right versus wrong. And it has nothing to do with being a male or female, has nothing to do with 0.58

00:25:35.220 the color. You're either right or you're wrong. And so the blacks are starting to see that as they did 1.00

00:25:43.220 when I was growing up, because I grew up on a plantation down in Alabama. I grew up under the 0.84

00:25:50.480 Jim Crow laws. You know, I had to work the cotton fields and things like that. And not one time did I 0.90

00:25:56.360 hear my parents or grandparents say that was racism. I didn't even hear that word. It's a new word

00:26:01.900 that started after the civil rights movement started. And we were told that there were good

00:26:07.420 folks in all races and bad folks in all races and to treat people the way you would like to be

00:26:13.120 treated. And so that's how we grew up. But they got away from that because they listened to the lies

00:26:18.800 of the so-called civil rights movement and then the Democratic Party. But blacks are starting to 1.00

00:26:23.780 rethink that now and they're coming back to what is right.

00:26:26.660 You mentioned that this is a spiritual battle, and I totally agree. And I know both of us are

00:26:33.240 born again Christians. Unfortunately, a trend that I've seen kind of trickle into the Christian church

00:26:39.700 is this idea of what they're calling racial reconciliation, which I think is just a euphemism

00:26:44.740 for resentment between the races. But I saw a young Christian influencer say the other day that there

00:26:50.900 is no true repentance without reparations. So without white people paying black people back 0.91

00:26:56.880 for the damage that we've caused to their race. What would you tell someone who came to you with 0.88

00:27:04.180 that line of thinking? Well, first, I would say to any Christian who is sitting in a church and their

00:27:10.860 preacher is preaching that kind of stuff, they should hurry up and leave that church because that's

00:27:18.600 going to only bring on more hatred and divisiveness between the races, right? What I would say to

00:27:25.180 people, if they came to me like that, look, first of all, white people who are living today had

00:27:31.560 nothing to do with what happened 150 years ago. And secondly, that if black men and women were to get 0.80

00:27:38.960 married and have their children under the umbrella of marriage, and then they set a good example for their

00:27:46.380 children, taught them to work and how to treat themselves and respect themselves and others,

00:27:52.060 black Americans would be doing as well as white folks in this country, or even better in some cases,

00:27:58.060 that it has nothing to do with white people apologizing for anything and reconciliation and all

00:28:06.040 that. There's just a bunch of lies coming from the children of the lie. And to drop that anger so they 0.98

00:28:12.440 can see what's going on. Because white Americans have already apologized over and over and over again.

00:28:19.080 They have a false guilt as though they're responsible for the destruction of black people. 0.98

00:28:24.780 And unless black people forgive in their home first, forgive their mothers for turning them away from 0.98

00:28:29.800 their fathers, and forgive the father for not being there, they are never going to get better no matter 0.99

00:28:35.140 what white people do. There's nothing on earth that white Americans can do to make angry black people feel 0.99

00:28:41.960 better. The only thing that's going to change that is that they have to go and forgive their parents 0.97

00:28:46.920 first. Then God will forgive them and take that spirit of anger away. Then they can become a free

00:28:53.300 people or free person and move on in life. That's what's needed. And it's not fair to white Americans 0.73

00:28:58.760 to continue blaming them for something that they had nothing to do with. It's nothing, not one iota.

00:29:06.520 And it's just sad that white Americans have been afraid to speak up over these years for fear of

00:29:13.860 being called racist. Because it had, by not speaking up, it looked like they were guilty.

00:29:20.740 But had they spoken up and said, no, I have nothing to do with your problem. I don't care about your

00:29:25.000 color. I guarantee you things will be better today. We will be already united as one rather than divided

00:29:31.960 in the sense that we are now. And you have to wonder if that's why black support has increased

00:29:36.960 for President Trump. Because while he might not be the most polite person out there, he doesn't

00:29:42.000 patronize them like so many other Democratic leaders have done. You are 100% correct. When they

00:29:50.600 see the president, they don't see a politician. They don't see, as you said, they don't see someone

00:29:55.340 patronizing them. He's just a man, a human being who says it like it is. He's doing what he can do

00:30:03.120 to put the country first. He's honest with black people. Even when he was running, he said to them,

00:30:09.280 why not give me a chance? What do you have to lose? What has the Democrats done for you? No other

00:30:15.420 politician has ever said that to them in such a straight way. And so you are absolutely right.

00:30:21.520 He's just a regular person treating everybody the same. And that's what they're noticing.

00:30:27.540 So you feel like the black community is waking up to that reality?

00:30:33.600 100%. I see it all the time, even in my own family. And my family members are liberal Democrats all the

00:30:40.700 way, right? I've had family members tell me I was born a Democrat, I'm going to die a Democrat.

00:30:46.340 And now they're starting to take a second look at this man. They love what he stands for. They

00:30:51.320 love that he put the country first. They love that when he's attacked, he's not afraid to attack

00:30:56.460 back. They love that he's not afraid to mention, hey, black people, the Democrats are not helping 0.97

00:31:02.220 you. Look at Chicago. Obama didn't do anything about Chicago. Where's the mayor of Chicago? 0.97

00:31:09.620 He's just straightforward with that. And they're loving it. So even in my family members,

00:31:14.700 they're starting to rethink the Democratic Party and look toward the president.

00:31:18.220 Well, I think a lot of that can be attributed to you and the influence that you have had in other

00:31:23.080 people like you. So if you could please tell everyone who's listening where they can find

00:31:27.520 you on a daily basis.

00:31:29.520 They can. And thank you so much. We can go to rebuildingtheman.com. Rebuildingtheman.com is my

00:31:35.980 website. We've been rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man for the last 28 years of my

00:31:40.480 nonprofit. My radio show is jlptalk.com. And we're also on Newsmax TV Monday mornings at 6 a.m.

00:31:49.440 Pacific time. They can catch me there. But they can go to jlptalk.com and get most of the information

00:31:55.600 there.

00:31:56.320 Great. Well, thank you so much, Jesse. I really enjoy talking to you.

00:31:59.800 Thank you, too. I really appreciate you having me on. Thank you so much.

00:32:02.940 OK, I learned a lot from that interview. It was really interesting to gain his perspective.

00:32:09.560 I'm looking forward to seeing if that's actually going to be the case, if the black community is 1.00

00:32:14.420 truly looking more at Trump's actions than his rhetoric. So I guess only time will tell this year

00:32:20.120 in the midterms, probably. And then, of course, leading up to 2020. I hope that you guys enjoy

00:32:25.440 these conversations as much as I did. So we did a little bit of bad with Trump, a little bit of

00:32:30.940 good with Trump. You guys know we have to try and see both sides when we can. I'm sure I'll have

00:32:35.400 lots more Trump news for you next week. I'm sure he'll be tweeting up a storm over the weekend.

00:32:40.960 One more thing that I want to do. I know that you guys have a favorite segment on my show as I've

00:32:45.880 gotten many messages and emails about the segment things I don't get. And if you watch my Instagram

00:32:51.180 story this week, you know the thing that I don't get is college dorm rooms nowadays. So for whatever

00:32:57.740 reason on Instagram, when I go to my explore page, I see all of these pictures of Little Miss Mary

00:33:04.320 Margaret from the University of Alabama who lives in Alpharetta and all of her dorm room pics of her

00:33:11.180 freshman year. I don't know why. I don't know why Instagram thinks that this is something that I'm

00:33:14.980 interested in, but they do. And what I've noticed is the drastic change in the past eight years. So I

00:33:21.760 went to college in 2010. When I went to college, first of all, my dorm room was disgusting. It was

00:33:28.720 like we had like metal rod bunk beds and nothing was cute. We had gross carpet anyway. So I had I

00:33:36.900 think my roommate and I had like matching green comforters from Target, which I think I probably

00:33:42.240 thought was cute at the time, but I didn't have any other decorations. Now I am hearing. So I learned

00:33:47.620 from some of you people who messaged me about this on Instagram that people actually hire designers to

00:33:54.860 design and decorate their freshman dorm rooms. That is absolutely insane. I want to know the culprit. I

00:34:03.200 want to know the cause of this, that how Mary Margaret is getting her parents to pay $10,000 to decorate her 0.59

00:34:10.820 freshman dorm room. She's not even going to keep these decorations until next year. That is a thing that I don't

00:34:15.980 get. And I just thank God that I went to college in 2010 instead of 2018 before we had Pinterest, I

00:34:22.200 think, before we had Instagram, before we had Snapchat. So I didn't feel like I had to compare

00:34:26.300 my dorm room to other people. Now that you've got the tapestries from Free People and Madewell, you've

00:34:30.940 got like the cork boards behind the bed, you've got the sparkly lights everywhere. It's amazing. Not to

00:34:36.980 mention the fact that college girls now look about 10,000 times better than we did when we were in 0.96

00:34:42.120 college. We didn't figure out like baking and highlighting and all of that. But that's another

00:34:46.320 segment for another day. So the thing that I don't get is how cute dorm rooms are freshman year. As you

00:34:54.460 guys know, I'm a trash person. I don't decorate things. I'm not good at decorating things. I've 0.92

00:35:00.180 gotten probably 50 messages from you guys about how you guys are trash people too. And all the trash 1.00

00:35:06.940 things that you put in your dorm room when you were in college in 2008. And I just really appreciate

00:35:11.480 that. So trash people unite. If you are a freshman in college that you got your dorm room designed, 0.98

00:35:16.700 more power to you. Send me a message for how you figure that out so early in life because I still

00:35:21.260 have it and I'm 26. Okay, that's it for today. Love you guys. Have a great weekend.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 23, 2018

Ep 31 ｜ Trump： A Negative & A Positive

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