Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 23, 2018


Ep 31 ｜ Trump： A Negative & A Positive


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

180.17221

Word Count

6,382

Sentence Count

403

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

On this episode of Relatable, Allie Stuckey talks about social media censorship and government involvement in social media, and the positive impact President Trump is having on the Black Community. She also talks about the state of the black community and Trump's impact on it.


Transcript

00:00:00.040 What's up, guys? Welcome to Relatable. I am your host, Allie Stuckey. If you have not already,
00:00:06.440 make sure to subscribe to CRTV using promo code Allie20 so you can watch this podcast in full
00:00:12.460 and also have access to a ton of other content from conservative commentators. If you are watching
00:00:17.660 this, you know that I am in a different layer than my usual set. It's temporary. I'll be back
00:00:22.700 in my normal place next week. Okay, I hope that everyone is having a great week. Today,
00:00:28.660 we are going to talk about two subjects, both kind of involving President Trump. On the first
00:00:34.280 subject, I believe that President Trump is missing the mark, actually. And on the second subject,
00:00:39.980 it seems that the president is hitting the mark. He's doing a great job. The first subject is social
00:00:44.900 media censorship and possible government involvement in social media. And the second is President Trump's
00:00:51.000 elevated approval rating in the black community. So first, I will be talking to Amelia Irving from
00:00:57.420 Young Voices in USA Today regarding social media censorship. And then I will be talking to radio
00:01:03.620 host Jesse Lee Peterson about the state of the black community and Trump's effect on it.
00:01:08.400 Even though these two subjects have nothing to do with one another, really, we are talking about them
00:01:13.880 both because they are both in the news right now and they show the goods and the bads of Trumpism.
00:01:19.680 So first, let us talk social media censorship. As you know, stories about Facebook, Twitter,
00:01:25.740 YouTube, which is owned by Google, censoring conservatives are in the news every few
00:01:31.720 weeks. A few months ago, Trump supporting social media stars Diamond and Silk went to testify before
00:01:37.520 Congress about being censored by Facebook. Just the other day, Facebook took down my PragerU video
00:01:43.860 on masculinity because it apparently, quote, violated their community guidelines. PragerU tweeted
00:01:50.340 about it. It got thousands of I think now tens of thousands of retweets. And then after it was
00:01:56.120 retweeted a bunch of times, Facebook apologized on Twitter and said that they put all of the videos
00:02:01.260 that they took down from PragerU back up. There have been complaints about shadow banning of
00:02:07.360 conservatives on social media, including Instagram, Twitter, meaning that posts from conservatives are
00:02:12.920 deprioritized so that fewer people see these posts, even if they follow the person that is posting
00:02:19.300 them. So as a conservative, as you could guess, I really don't like any of this. I do think in most
00:02:26.160 cases that this is a very real problem. Facebook and Twitter, and I'm sure Google, too, are all left
00:02:31.520 leaning. Jack Dorsey, who is the CEO of Twitter, admitted that YouTube videos that are in no way
00:02:38.400 controversial, but maybe have one conservative comment are being demonetized. I'm sure that
00:02:44.200 they are like most leftists who truly think that someone saying that illegal immigration is a crime
00:02:50.420 or that Jesus is the son of God or a biological boy is a boy. It's all hate speech. And so it doesn't
00:02:56.480 surprise me that we are getting censored. We are saying things that are blatantly true and yet today
00:03:01.640 are considered controversial and bigoted. But but I don't think that it is true censorship
00:03:08.100 in all cases. I think that there are people who think that they are getting shadow bans, but really
00:03:15.320 maybe some of these people just aren't as aren't posting as interesting things anymore. For example,
00:03:21.400 engagement on my conservative millennial Facebook page has gone way down in the past year. But that's
00:03:27.240 because I don't post hardly any original content on the page anymore. I just share posts from my
00:03:32.320 CRTV Facebook page and engagement on my CRTV Facebook page is great.
00:03:36.980 Some people need to come to terms with the fact that maybe their content is not good or interesting,
00:03:43.000 and that is why people are not following them or sharing their posts. I think it's important to
00:03:47.620 probably consider that option. I think it makes some people feel better to say, well, I don't have a lot
00:03:54.320 of followers on Twitter because Twitter is stifling me. Maybe, but maybe not. I don't think Twitter
00:04:01.160 has time to go to every single account and say conservative. Well, I'm going to shut you down.
00:04:06.800 I just don't. Like I said, in some cases, maybe many cases, absolutely. But in all cases,
00:04:13.540 no way. Now, all of that said, I do agree that even some censorship of someone strictly because of
00:04:20.480 their political view is wrong. It's dangerous to society and it is unhealthy for a republic like ours.
00:04:27.720 See, these social media companies claim that they are trying to make social media safer for people,
00:04:34.140 and they think that that is a noble pursuit. The problem with that, though, is their definition
00:04:39.360 of safety versus danger. They believe safety, it seems, is everyone agreeing with them. Someone
00:04:45.480 making a comment that doesn't align with the far left to them is dangerous. And so to save everyone
00:04:51.420 from their version of danger, they have to censor conservatives. I mean, if you guys remember
00:04:56.040 my PragerU video, make men masculine again, nothing I said, nothing I said would have at all been
00:05:02.300 controversial even 10 years ago, that good men are good for society, bad men are bad for society,
00:05:08.400 that we should be raising our boys to be responsible men that take care of their families
00:05:13.080 and communities. Apparently that is bigoted and hateful and wrong. I've gotten plenty of comments
00:05:18.200 that have told me as much. So what we're going to see is a growth, an expansion of the left's
00:05:24.860 definitions of hate and danger. And we will see social media companies latching on to these
00:05:29.500 growing definitions because a, they agree with the expansion of definitions themselves and
00:05:34.480 be, they fear the liberal mob, which has been proven to be an effective force in ruining people's
00:05:40.480 lives. So I concur with the stance that these social media companies have Orwellian power when
00:05:47.420 it comes to pervading information and consequently forming our thoughts on things. But I disagree with
00:05:53.860 people on the left and the right who say that the government should swoop in and do something.
00:05:58.640 I'm just a little bit skeptical about that. President Trump, presumably after watching the
00:06:04.140 Fox and Friends segment last weekend, where they reported on PragerU videos being taken off Facebook,
00:06:09.160 tweeted this in a three part tweet storm. He said, social media is totally discriminating against
00:06:15.960 Republican slash conservative voices. Speaking loudly and clearly for the Trump administration,
00:06:21.220 we won't let that happen. They are closing down the opinions of many people on the right while at
00:06:28.420 the same time doing nothing to others. Censorship is a very dangerous thing, he said, and absolutely
00:06:35.860 impossible to police. If you are weeding out fake news, there is nothing so fake as CNN and MSNBC.
00:06:43.840 And yet I do not ask that their sick behavior be removed. I get used to it and watch with a grain of
00:06:49.220 salt or don't watch it all. And then the last tweet, too many voices are being destroyed, some good and
00:06:55.500 some bad, and that cannot be allowed to happen. Who is making the choices? Because I can already tell you
00:07:01.360 that too many mistakes are being made. Let everybody, everybody participate, good and bad, and we will all
00:07:07.820 just have to figure it out, exclamation mark. So, okay. Okay. I agree with some parts of this.
00:07:16.180 Mass censorship of one political view is bad. And I agree that it should be on the user or the viewer
00:07:23.980 to be able to distinguish between what is right and wrong, true and false, good and bad. Totally agree
00:07:28.840 with that. What I don't agree with is this one sentence that people seem to be latching on to,
00:07:34.600 and that is his insistence that, quote, we won't let that happen. Well, how? To me, that is a
00:07:41.620 contradiction. In one breath, he says people should be responsible for figuring it out themselves,
00:07:47.620 which I am totally on board with. And then he says that his administration won't let censorship
00:07:53.260 happen. I think that those two ideas are just a little bit contradictory, the censorship and people
00:08:00.260 should just figure it out on their own because that would include companies. I tweeted this simple
00:08:05.380 statement this weekend. Uh, I don't like social media censorship, but I really don't like the idea
00:08:10.840 of the government getting involved in the end. That's going to hurt conservative voices more than
00:08:14.980 help. Uh, well, I got a lot of hate for that tweet. Um, but I didn't get hate from the left about this.
00:08:20.800 I got hate from the alt-right who thought that this was a very stupid take, according to them.
00:08:27.140 Gab, who ironically is trying to be a competitor to current social media platforms,
00:08:32.400 called me a basic B word. Uh, they hate me. They've been really rude to me on Twitter in the past.
00:08:38.820 They're really nothing more than an alt-right front group and clearly don't value diversity of
00:08:43.020 opinion the way they say they do because they vilify people like me and everyone else who doesn't
00:08:47.320 agree with them. Uh, they and others like them would rather have the government intervene apparently
00:08:52.200 so that we can definitely all be crushed, including them. So that makes a lot of sense. Um,
00:08:57.500 there is though some nuance to this conversation and to explore that, I want to talk to an editorial
00:09:03.760 intern at USA Today who wrote a piece back in July arguing for the government to stay out of social
00:09:08.920 media. I thought it was a really good, thoughtful piece and I'm going to bring her on to chat with
00:09:13.460 me. Amelia, thanks so much for joining me. Thanks so much for having me. So I read your piece in USA
00:09:18.700 Today arguing against government intervention in social media companies, but for everyone who hasn't
00:09:24.880 read that piece, can you kind of summarize your position? Sure. It's been in the news. It seems
00:09:29.360 like at least once a month since probably Trump got elected and we saw this with the diamond and silk
00:09:35.520 hearing that Congress did a couple months ago. And most recently Congress had another hearing with
00:09:41.220 some representatives from Twitter and YouTube and Facebook. And I found the whole thing very alarming.
00:09:46.600 You know, there are Republican Congress people and Democratic Congress people talking about
00:09:50.660 how, you know, Facebook or Twitter has a monopoly or we should regulate them like they're a public
00:09:56.420 utility. And I think that that's absolutely the wrong thing to do. I think people forget that when
00:10:02.100 we give the government that much power over our lives, especially when we give them power over our
00:10:06.980 speech, we're opening the door to some of the worst sorts of tyranny. And I find that really
00:10:11.900 frightening. So a lot of people say that the social media companies, these big tech companies have
00:10:16.720 monopoly on the industry and via antitrust laws, they need to be broken up. Do you buy into that
00:10:23.140 argument? I don't. So in the nineties, there was an antitrust case against Microsoft. At the time,
00:10:29.660 Internet Explorer was used by anywhere from 90 to 90% of all desktop computers. And the antitrust case
00:10:39.240 actually failed. They didn't take any action against Internet Explorer or Microsoft. But we saw the
00:10:45.420 introduction of Google Chrome and that just completely blew Internet Explorer out of the
00:10:50.860 water. So I think when people say, oh, well, obviously Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, they
00:10:55.640 all have a monopoly. Google has a monopoly. I think, yeah, sure. They control a lot of market power right
00:11:01.280 now. But we forget that in the tech space, especially these things are never permanent. You can always get
00:11:07.160 knocked off by some random college kid coming up with great ideas in their dorm room or in their
00:11:12.860 parents' garage. And I think that we really need to remember that innovation is something that we
00:11:18.460 should encourage, not discourage, and that we should always count on those things. I am really
00:11:23.160 surprised by the number of conservatives who don't agree with this position of the government not
00:11:28.680 intervening in social media companies. Why do you think it is that so many conservatives are leaning in
00:11:37.000 the direction of government intervention? I think we have this tendency to really seize power when we
00:11:43.100 have it. We say, oh, we have the White House. We have the Congress. We should just take this
00:11:47.440 opportunity right now and push through whatever legislation we want and hit back, own the lives
00:11:53.320 forever. But you always forget government power always changes hands eventually. You know, Trump's not
00:11:59.460 going to be president forever. We're not going to have a Republican Congress forever. And we see that
00:12:05.120 people lose sight of the fact that we do change power often. You know, even Democrats were falling
00:12:10.160 short on this when talking about President Obama's sort of expansion of the presidential power.
00:12:15.620 And then Trump can come in and reverse all of his decisions just because he took these actions alone.
00:12:21.560 And now Trump has all this additional power. So I think Democrats and Republicans should really be
00:12:25.960 coming on together on limiting government intervention. And because that will benefit all of us in the long run,
00:12:32.400 where we all have a bigger opportunity to share ideas, where we all have sort of equal opportunity
00:12:37.620 to interact in the marketplace. So the left and the right have two competing goals when it comes to
00:12:45.220 those who believe in government intervention. The left says that they want people to not be able to say
00:12:50.840 racist things on social media. The right say we want government to intervene so no one is discriminated
00:12:56.220 against. If those two goals are competing, then who's to say who is going to win if the government
00:13:03.500 does intervene? Yeah, I definitely think that that's true. And I think especially if we're talking
00:13:09.320 about having some sort of regulatory agency that would one day regulate social media, if conservatives
00:13:15.260 are saying, oh, we don't want these companies to be able to discriminate against different voices,
00:13:20.420 and Democrats are saying we don't want people to be able to share fake news, or make of these
00:13:26.380 audacious conspiracy theories. But we forget that, especially if you turn this into some sort of
00:13:32.520 bureaucracy, you completely lose control over it. Even elected representatives lose control over these
00:13:37.920 things to where it's so distant from all the people that we have no control over anymore. And I think that
00:13:45.080 people should run away from these things, not run towards them.
00:13:48.280 So talk about the real life consequences if the government does decide to intervene in social
00:13:53.520 media. So I think one of the one of the solutions that people have been talking about is regulating
00:13:59.060 social media companies like their public public utility. So you know, they can't interfere with
00:14:05.440 anything that's posted, which I think if they're going to do any sort of regulation, this is probably the
00:14:09.900 least harmful one. But the biggest problem with it is that it can it pretty much it sort of built a
00:14:16.800 moat around these companies so that their competitors can't always get into the marketplace
00:14:21.360 with them. If there's so much limitation on what you can do to innovate and be different from your
00:14:26.560 competitors, then we're just sort of shutting down this market. And that's sort of a really silly thing
00:14:31.480 to do. We don't know what the future of social media will look like. So I think making it a public
00:14:35.620 utility would be completely ignoring the future. And with antitrust, I really fear this revival of
00:14:43.080 so called hipster antitrust policy, where we need to break up all these big corporations, especially in
00:14:48.340 the tech world, just because they're big, a lot of people use them. Well, a lot of people use them
00:14:53.580 because they're good, and we like them, and they add value to our lives. So I don't think that we should
00:14:59.500 punish companies for that. I think that whole attitude is just going to lead us to disaster where big
00:15:04.160 companies are broken up, just because they're big, where we're hurting companies that have done good
00:15:09.380 things. So there seems to just be kind of a lack of optimism when it comes to breaking up these
00:15:14.940 companies, like competition is not going to be enough. We thought that about MySpace, though,
00:15:19.480 when MySpace was the only one in the industry, but then Mark Zuckerberg came along and introduced
00:15:25.080 Facebook. So I don't really understand the conservatives who don't think that the free
00:15:30.940 market can come through for us. Yeah, I don't fully understand that either. I mean, part of it is
00:15:35.680 how smart are these alt-right type companies. I'm not trying to like insult them, but I don't know
00:15:41.560 if they're fully thinking through like their actions. If anyone's going to be targeted by the
00:15:46.340 government, it's probably them. I don't know why they would think that that would somehow help them
00:15:51.600 if the government decided to regulate Facebook. Normally, when the government begins to regulate
00:15:56.140 an industry that pushes out all the small competitors, because they can't afford the lawyers and all the
00:16:01.820 red tape, that's just too difficult for small companies or entrants into any new market.
00:16:07.920 So what do you think the solution is to the censorship that's happening of conservatives?
00:16:12.900 I think that what we've been doing is probably the best option where we band together and we talk
00:16:17.860 on these platforms. We call out the companies that are doing wrong things and we say,
00:16:24.220 hey, you can't do this. This is so silly. You can't take down these videos just because you don't
00:16:29.080 like them or just because a bunch of liberals are flagging them as hate speech or offensive.
00:16:34.780 And we also need to think long term and ask them to start looking at their community policies and
00:16:40.160 maybe rethinking some of the offensive language, stipulations or that sort of thing. Because that
00:16:45.740 is so incredibly subjective that I don't really see any way for that to be good in the long run.
00:16:52.600 But yeah. And I think a lot of people are so skeptical that we could do this. But I think
00:16:59.600 if things get bad enough, we should think about having our own platform or someone opening up a
00:17:04.740 platform that's just open to everyone and has like very limited censorship only in cases where it
00:17:11.120 like violates the law. I know that people are skeptical that could happen. But I think, again,
00:17:16.780 in the tech space, anything can happen. We shouldn't discount that and we shouldn't like close off that
00:17:22.580 opportunity just because it seems unlikely. Yes, I totally agree with you. Well, I really
00:17:27.540 appreciate you talking to me. I learned a lot from our conversation. Can you tell everyone where
00:17:32.560 they can find you? Yeah, I'm on Twitter and Instagram as Amelia Irvin, my name, and then the number
00:17:39.400 three. And you are also a contributor to Young Voices. Can you tell everyone what the website
00:17:45.200 is for Young Voices? Yes, it's www.young-voices.com. So everyone go check that out. Thank you so much,
00:17:54.780 Amelia, for joining me. I really appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me. So I hope that that
00:18:00.060 added some clarity to the conversation. And now I want to shift gears to something totally different,
00:18:07.760 but still involving President Trump. So Trump may be wrong to try to intervene in social media
00:18:12.760 companies business, at least in my opinion. But he is not wrong, apparently, as the numbers show in how
00:18:18.040 he is handling the economy. One stat in particular that's gotten a lot of attention because it
00:18:23.300 contrasts with the constant accusations of him being a racist is the black unemployment rate. It's at
00:18:29.360 an 18 year low. A recent poll said that the black approval rating of Trump is 36 percent. I think
00:18:35.940 that was Rasmussen, which is probably a little high. It's probably about 15 percent. But the
00:18:40.800 fact that it's in double digits at all is a big deal. As you know, black people traditionally vote
00:18:45.760 Democrat. And a lot of people are talking about this shift in the black community that's happening.
00:18:51.100 So I wanted to talk to Jesse Lee Peterson, who is a conservative radio host. He is also black
00:18:56.380 and he specializes in this topic. Jesse, thank you so much for joining me.
00:19:01.680 I appreciate you having me on. Thank you.
00:19:04.160 So I think that you are such an important voice within the black community because the advice that
00:19:09.380 you give is just common sense, but it really seems to not be all that common. Do you think that
00:19:17.380 that's catching on within your community? Do you think that there's a political change happening?
00:19:22.380 Absolutely. And for a couple of reasons. One is that when we talk, when I talk to black Americans
00:19:28.960 about what's happening, I get them to see that they're being used by the Democratic Party,
00:19:34.420 the liberal media, and some of the right or Republicans, and that the Democrats have been
00:19:39.380 using them for the last 50 to 60 years. And I also talk to them about dropping that anger
00:19:45.040 that stars in their homes, because once they drop that anger, they can really see who their friends
00:19:50.220 are and who the enemies are. So that's having an impact. But without a doubt, the great white hope,
00:19:56.920 President Trump, has had a major impact on black Americans, men and women, and especially the men,
00:20:04.480 because they can see where the president is coming from. They see that he is not afraid.
00:20:10.260 They see that when he is attacked, he attacked back. He's putting the country first.
00:20:15.040 Most more black Americans are working now as a result of President Trump than they did under
00:20:21.800 Barack Obama. Even young Americans are now working. And so they are seeing this firsthand,
00:20:29.820 unlike before the president got there, the media would not really report what was going on.
00:20:36.360 But because of the president, the blacks can see it for themselves. And the last report I saw,
00:20:41.500 I believe I could be wrong, but I think it was like 30% of black Americans are now supporting
00:20:48.880 this president. And we have not seen that in years. So we know that the black unemployment rate
00:20:55.460 is at an 18 year low. But what we hear from the mainstream media is that President Trump is a racist
00:21:01.700 and that any black person that supports President Trump is supporting a racist. Do you think the black
00:21:08.120 community is kind of waking up and saying, no, I am going to vote not according to identity politics,
00:21:13.440 but according to what benefits me economically?
00:21:18.240 You know, absolutely. The media, the media, the people who are saying that this is not true
00:21:23.320 about the president popularity with black people are the same people who said that the president
00:21:28.700 would not win, that he would not become the president. Right. So we can no longer believe them
00:21:34.560 anyway, but I have no doubt. And I run into them all the time. I hear them. They call into my show,
00:21:41.440 my radio and TV show, and they are supporting this president like 90 going North. Um, the, uh,
00:21:48.480 they liked this president where he ran the apprentice, the TV show. They had a lot of respect for him
00:21:54.660 then. And now that they see him again in operation, uh, they are respecting him now. They really love his
00:22:01.760 courage. Also the media and others have not been able to prove that there was a, uh, collusion
00:22:09.160 going on with Russia and the president. Everything they have said about this man has not fanned out
00:22:14.580 for them. And so, uh, blacks are starting to see and think for themselves. That's why they don't,
00:22:21.300 the Democrats, the wicked witch of the West, Maxine Waters with the low IQ. The last thing that they
00:22:28.000 want is for blacks to pay attention to this man because they know when black people pay attention,
00:22:35.060 they're going to start waking up. They're going to start thinking for themselves and it's over for
00:22:39.520 the democratic party. It's a nightmare for the Democrats that this is happening. Right. Well,
00:22:44.320 well now we're hearing about Omarosa as she is going around saying that she has a tape of the president
00:22:49.920 saying the N word. Um, and the left is absolutely harping on this. Do you think that line of attack
00:22:56.380 is effective in holding back support of the president from the black community?
00:23:02.120 No, if they, if there is a tape and every other word, the president is using the N word. If that's
00:23:08.800 true, it's not going to impact the black community in a negative way. No. And the reason is because
00:23:16.440 they respect this president. They know that he's under attack and they don't lie nor do they trust
00:23:22.500 Omarosa anyway. They know that this president gave Omarosa her first chance in life. You know,
00:23:30.580 on the apprentice, she became popular by being on there. And then he hired her at the White House
00:23:36.660 after firing her from the apprentice. And so they, they trust the president more so than Omarosa. So
00:23:44.200 if there is a tape and they hear him using the N word, it's not going to matter because they know
00:23:49.760 Omarosa cannot be trusted. Who turned on people that helped them along the way? You know, Omarosa
00:23:57.260 has been helped by this president. And rather than appreciating that and moving along in life,
00:24:02.720 she has turned on him for fame and glory. She would never be trusted by anyone again.
00:24:08.560 Even the liberal media who are now using her to try to hurt this president, they don't really trust her
00:24:14.680 either. But when so when they're done with her, they're going to kick her to the curb. It's over
00:24:19.360 for Omarosa. So the left is obviously using Omarosa in the same way that you say that the Democrats have
00:24:25.400 used the black community for a long time to gain votes. Are black people waking up to that waking up
00:24:33.580 to the fact that they are being used by the left? Well, in the past, they have been able to use the word
00:24:39.880 racism. And because there was no other positive examples out there for black Americans,
00:24:46.300 they believed for a long time that the Democratic Party was for them, that the Democratic Party
00:24:51.200 cared about them because they always used that word racism. And blacks, most of them were very angry at
00:24:57.300 the time, which starts in the home, by the way, but they believed a lie that it was from white people.
00:25:02.140 And they would just go into this trance and go into the voting booth and vote for the Democrats.
00:25:07.660 That is changing because of this president, they're thinking for themselves. And also a lot of them
00:25:13.880 are starting to realize that there's no such thing as racism, no such thing as racism, sexism,
00:25:20.880 homophobism, Islamophobism, no isms. That our battle is a spiritual battle, a warfare between good and
00:25:28.860 evil, right versus wrong. And it has nothing to do with being a male or female, has nothing to do with
00:25:35.220 the color. You're either right or you're wrong. And so the blacks are starting to see that as they did
00:25:43.220 when I was growing up, because I grew up on a plantation down in Alabama. I grew up under the
00:25:50.480 Jim Crow laws. You know, I had to work the cotton fields and things like that. And not one time did I
00:25:56.360 hear my parents or grandparents say that was racism. I didn't even hear that word. It's a new word
00:26:01.900 that started after the civil rights movement started. And we were told that there were good
00:26:07.420 folks in all races and bad folks in all races and to treat people the way you would like to be
00:26:13.120 treated. And so that's how we grew up. But they got away from that because they listened to the lies
00:26:18.800 of the so-called civil rights movement and then the Democratic Party. But blacks are starting to
00:26:23.780 rethink that now and they're coming back to what is right.
00:26:26.660 You mentioned that this is a spiritual battle, and I totally agree. And I know both of us are
00:26:33.240 born again Christians. Unfortunately, a trend that I've seen kind of trickle into the Christian church
00:26:39.700 is this idea of what they're calling racial reconciliation, which I think is just a euphemism
00:26:44.740 for resentment between the races. But I saw a young Christian influencer say the other day that there
00:26:50.900 is no true repentance without reparations. So without white people paying black people back
00:26:56.880 for the damage that we've caused to their race. What would you tell someone who came to you with
00:27:04.180 that line of thinking? Well, first, I would say to any Christian who is sitting in a church and their
00:27:10.860 preacher is preaching that kind of stuff, they should hurry up and leave that church because that's
00:27:18.600 going to only bring on more hatred and divisiveness between the races, right? What I would say to
00:27:25.180 people, if they came to me like that, look, first of all, white people who are living today had
00:27:31.560 nothing to do with what happened 150 years ago. And secondly, that if black men and women were to get
00:27:38.960 married and have their children under the umbrella of marriage, and then they set a good example for their
00:27:46.380 children, taught them to work and how to treat themselves and respect themselves and others,
00:27:52.060 black Americans would be doing as well as white folks in this country, or even better in some cases,
00:27:58.060 that it has nothing to do with white people apologizing for anything and reconciliation and all
00:28:06.040 that. There's just a bunch of lies coming from the children of the lie. And to drop that anger so they
00:28:12.440 can see what's going on. Because white Americans have already apologized over and over and over again.
00:28:19.080 They have a false guilt as though they're responsible for the destruction of black people.
00:28:24.780 And unless black people forgive in their home first, forgive their mothers for turning them away from
00:28:29.800 their fathers, and forgive the father for not being there, they are never going to get better no matter
00:28:35.140 what white people do. There's nothing on earth that white Americans can do to make angry black people feel
00:28:41.960 better. The only thing that's going to change that is that they have to go and forgive their parents
00:28:46.920 first. Then God will forgive them and take that spirit of anger away. Then they can become a free
00:28:53.300 people or free person and move on in life. That's what's needed. And it's not fair to white Americans
00:28:58.760 to continue blaming them for something that they had nothing to do with. It's nothing, not one iota.
00:29:06.520 And it's just sad that white Americans have been afraid to speak up over these years for fear of
00:29:13.860 being called racist. Because it had, by not speaking up, it looked like they were guilty.
00:29:20.740 But had they spoken up and said, no, I have nothing to do with your problem. I don't care about your
00:29:25.000 color. I guarantee you things will be better today. We will be already united as one rather than divided
00:29:31.960 in the sense that we are now. And you have to wonder if that's why black support has increased
00:29:36.960 for President Trump. Because while he might not be the most polite person out there, he doesn't
00:29:42.000 patronize them like so many other Democratic leaders have done. You are 100% correct. When they
00:29:50.600 see the president, they don't see a politician. They don't see, as you said, they don't see someone
00:29:55.340 patronizing them. He's just a man, a human being who says it like it is. He's doing what he can do
00:30:03.120 to put the country first. He's honest with black people. Even when he was running, he said to them,
00:30:09.280 why not give me a chance? What do you have to lose? What has the Democrats done for you? No other
00:30:15.420 politician has ever said that to them in such a straight way. And so you are absolutely right.
00:30:21.520 He's just a regular person treating everybody the same. And that's what they're noticing.
00:30:27.540 So you feel like the black community is waking up to that reality?
00:30:33.600 100%. I see it all the time, even in my own family. And my family members are liberal Democrats all the
00:30:40.700 way, right? I've had family members tell me I was born a Democrat, I'm going to die a Democrat.
00:30:46.340 And now they're starting to take a second look at this man. They love what he stands for. They
00:30:51.320 love that he put the country first. They love that when he's attacked, he's not afraid to attack
00:30:56.460 back. They love that he's not afraid to mention, hey, black people, the Democrats are not helping
00:31:02.220 you. Look at Chicago. Obama didn't do anything about Chicago. Where's the mayor of Chicago?
00:31:09.620 He's just straightforward with that. And they're loving it. So even in my family members,
00:31:14.700 they're starting to rethink the Democratic Party and look toward the president.
00:31:18.220 Well, I think a lot of that can be attributed to you and the influence that you have had in other
00:31:23.080 people like you. So if you could please tell everyone who's listening where they can find
00:31:27.520 you on a daily basis.
00:31:29.520 They can. And thank you so much. We can go to rebuildingtheman.com. Rebuildingtheman.com is my
00:31:35.980 website. We've been rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man for the last 28 years of my
00:31:40.480 nonprofit. My radio show is jlptalk.com. And we're also on Newsmax TV Monday mornings at 6 a.m.
00:31:49.440 Pacific time. They can catch me there. But they can go to jlptalk.com and get most of the information
00:31:55.600 there.
00:31:56.320 Great. Well, thank you so much, Jesse. I really enjoy talking to you.
00:31:59.800 Thank you, too. I really appreciate you having me on. Thank you so much.
00:32:02.940 OK, I learned a lot from that interview. It was really interesting to gain his perspective.
00:32:09.560 I'm looking forward to seeing if that's actually going to be the case, if the black community is
00:32:14.420 truly looking more at Trump's actions than his rhetoric. So I guess only time will tell this year
00:32:20.120 in the midterms, probably. And then, of course, leading up to 2020. I hope that you guys enjoy
00:32:25.440 these conversations as much as I did. So we did a little bit of bad with Trump, a little bit of
00:32:30.940 good with Trump. You guys know we have to try and see both sides when we can. I'm sure I'll have
00:32:35.400 lots more Trump news for you next week. I'm sure he'll be tweeting up a storm over the weekend.
00:32:40.960 One more thing that I want to do. I know that you guys have a favorite segment on my show as I've
00:32:45.880 gotten many messages and emails about the segment things I don't get. And if you watch my Instagram
00:32:51.180 story this week, you know the thing that I don't get is college dorm rooms nowadays. So for whatever
00:32:57.740 reason on Instagram, when I go to my explore page, I see all of these pictures of Little Miss Mary
00:33:04.320 Margaret from the University of Alabama who lives in Alpharetta and all of her dorm room pics of her
00:33:11.180 freshman year. I don't know why. I don't know why Instagram thinks that this is something that I'm
00:33:14.980 interested in, but they do. And what I've noticed is the drastic change in the past eight years. So I
00:33:21.760 went to college in 2010. When I went to college, first of all, my dorm room was disgusting. It was
00:33:28.720 like we had like metal rod bunk beds and nothing was cute. We had gross carpet anyway. So I had I
00:33:36.900 think my roommate and I had like matching green comforters from Target, which I think I probably
00:33:42.240 thought was cute at the time, but I didn't have any other decorations. Now I am hearing. So I learned
00:33:47.620 from some of you people who messaged me about this on Instagram that people actually hire designers to
00:33:54.860 design and decorate their freshman dorm rooms. That is absolutely insane. I want to know the culprit. I
00:34:03.200 want to know the cause of this, that how Mary Margaret is getting her parents to pay $10,000 to decorate her
00:34:10.820 freshman dorm room. She's not even going to keep these decorations until next year. That is a thing that I don't
00:34:15.980 get. And I just thank God that I went to college in 2010 instead of 2018 before we had Pinterest, I
00:34:22.200 think, before we had Instagram, before we had Snapchat. So I didn't feel like I had to compare
00:34:26.300 my dorm room to other people. Now that you've got the tapestries from Free People and Madewell, you've
00:34:30.940 got like the cork boards behind the bed, you've got the sparkly lights everywhere. It's amazing. Not to
00:34:36.980 mention the fact that college girls now look about 10,000 times better than we did when we were in
00:34:42.120 college. We didn't figure out like baking and highlighting and all of that. But that's another
00:34:46.320 segment for another day. So the thing that I don't get is how cute dorm rooms are freshman year. As you
00:34:54.460 guys know, I'm a trash person. I don't decorate things. I'm not good at decorating things. I've
00:35:00.180 gotten probably 50 messages from you guys about how you guys are trash people too. And all the trash
00:35:06.940 things that you put in your dorm room when you were in college in 2008. And I just really appreciate
00:35:11.480 that. So trash people unite. If you are a freshman in college that you got your dorm room designed,
00:35:16.700 more power to you. Send me a message for how you figure that out so early in life because I still
00:35:21.260 have it and I'm 26. Okay, that's it for today. Love you guys. Have a great weekend.