Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 312 ｜ Trump vs. Biden 2020： Education

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a great weekend. We are

00:00:14.940 continuing our election series today. Today we are going to focus on education. Such an

00:00:20.760 important issue. If you care about justice, if you care about equity, if you care about

00:00:25.420 the least of these, the most vulnerable in our population, if you care about children, then

00:00:30.260 you should care about the issue of education and specifically school choice. And so that's

00:00:34.580 what we're going to talk about in the last half of this episode. In the first half of

00:00:39.020 this episode, I have a little bit of a rant because I've been spending some time on Christian

00:00:45.140 Women Instagram. Honestly, not a place where I spend a whole lot of time. It actually has

00:00:51.240 served as the inspiration in a lot of ways of my book, You're Not Enough, and that's

00:00:56.660 okay. Because there are some statements being made there in relation to the election about

00:01:04.020 the possibility of being pro-life and voting for Joe Biden. And not only that, the necessity

00:01:09.340 of voting for Joe Biden if you are pro-life. First of all, I would like a lot of these women

00:01:14.360 who are making those statements to go back and listen to last Wednesday's podcast. The

00:01:18.400 number of women that I am seeing say, look at this chart that says abortions decrease

00:01:24.120 more under Democratic presidents than they do under Republican presidents. Like not taking

00:01:29.760 the next step to think, okay, correlation doesn't prove causation. And I've actually got to point

00:01:34.420 to specific policies that prove that Democratic presidents actually lower abortions. We totally

00:01:41.460 busted that myth last Wednesday. It is not true. You've got to look at who controlled Congress,

00:01:46.280 who controlled the state legislatures. The fact is Republicans dominated those legislative bodies

00:01:51.320 mostly during Clinton, but especially during Barack Obama when abortion decreased the most.

00:01:56.420 I won't even say that that's what caused the abortion decrease because again, correlation doesn't

00:02:00.860 prove causation really hard to prove that causal relationship. But that is much more likely than any

00:02:07.120 policy that a president put forward. You understand that legislative bodies are the ones that create

00:02:12.140 laws and policies. Presidents very rarely do that. And very rarely do they actually have an effect

00:02:17.880 on the abortion rate. And of course, the pro-life efforts, which have undoubtedly made a difference

00:02:25.080 in the decision making of women who are considering abortion. So we can't also discount the possible

00:02:34.240 potential and I think very probable impact that pro-life efforts have made. Instead, you have these

00:02:39.640 women who are saying, no, no, no, look at this chart. Correlation does prove causation, even though I'm not

00:02:45.700 pointing to any policies whatsoever. This decreases abortion, not to mention the fact, by the way, that

00:02:52.100 that's a terrible argument. Like if something is a moral atrocity, which killing a baby and sucking

00:02:59.040 him or her out of the womb is a moral atrocity, then you don't just try to decrease it like any other

00:03:05.320 moral atrocity, rape, murder, assault, you make it illegal. Yes, of course, you want to make it less

00:03:10.520 likely because you want to save more people. You want to have fewer victims, but you also make it

00:03:15.020 illegal. You don't just say, OK, let me create some policies to make it less likely for someone to go

00:03:19.720 out and rape. But if they do rape, oh, well, sorry, victim. That's just not what we say to any other

00:03:24.680 victim. Why do we change our standards for legality and morality for babies inside the womb,

00:03:32.100 for those most defenseless victims? It just doesn't make sense, especially from a Christian

00:03:38.140 ethic. And so the people who are saying, oh, you know, I'm pro all life because I believe in all

00:03:44.460 of these liberal social welfare programs that supposedly have the intention to help people,

00:03:50.040 that makes me pro all life. I say the minimum qualification, the minimum qualification for

00:03:56.100 being considered pro life is being against the legalization of baby murder. And I don't care

00:04:02.440 whether or not you want to call the baby a fetus. It is just as accurate to call a fetus a baby in

00:04:07.020 the same way it's just as accurate to call an infant a child. Being a fetus is a stage of being a baby.

00:04:13.400 Being a zygote is a stage of being a baby in the same way being an infant is a stage of being a child.

00:04:19.020 And so in abortion, and we talked about what exactly abortion entails without hyperbole on

00:04:25.340 Wednesday, you can go back and listen to that. We've done that many times on this podcast.

00:04:28.980 It is baby murder. So the minimum qualification for considering yourself pro all life is to be

00:04:36.240 against the legalization of baby murder. So no, all these people, especially liberals, like I'm not

00:04:43.760 just talking about the Christians who are voting for a Democrat for the first time, although I am

00:04:47.740 addressing them as well, but especially for the people who have been pro the legalization of baby

00:04:54.700 murder for a long time saying, well, no, this is what it means to be pro life. You have to fund all

00:04:59.180 my pet social programs to really be pro life. Look, people who are for the legalization of baby

00:05:06.100 murder do not have the moral authority to say what is pro life and what is pro not pro and what is not

00:05:11.540 pro life. And when we are talking about misnomers here in the abortion debate, when we are talking

00:05:19.040 about, oh, what is pro life really mean? We should really be talking about what pro choice really

00:05:24.040 means. So if pro choicers think that they have the moral authority to tell a pro lifer what it really

00:05:30.020 means to be pro life while they are advocating for the murder of unborn children, I, a pro lifer will tell

00:05:35.460 you what it should really mean to be pro choice. If you are really pro choice, then you are pro

00:05:40.780 educated choice. You want a woman to have all the resources, all the options laid in front of her

00:05:46.640 and all the education in the world about what her choices are and what abortion is and what the baby

00:05:54.200 inside of her looks like and sounds like before she makes such a monumental decision. Do you not?

00:06:00.520 But that's not what happens at Planned Parenthood. First of all, you can't get an ultrasound at

00:06:04.400 Planned Parenthood unless you are planning, unless you are planning to have an abortion. You, they

00:06:11.760 don't treat you with prenatal services at Planned Parenthood. That is a very big myth. They want you

00:06:18.040 to abort your baby because that is how they make money. And so they're really not interested in

00:06:23.180 showing you your options. And they're certainly not interested in you seeing your baby on the

00:06:27.020 ultrasound and then deciding not to have an abortion. So they either don't show you the baby at all,

00:06:34.260 or if they do, I've heard several stories like this of women who went to Planned Parenthood because

00:06:38.720 they thought that was the only way they could get free care. They were showed a picture of their

00:06:43.720 child because they requested it on the ultrasound and it just looked like a blob. And then they went

00:06:48.160 over to the pro-life pregnancy center and they got an ultrasound and the image was sharp and they were

00:06:54.060 actually able to see arms and legs and it actually looked like a baby. Of course, we know that no matter

00:06:59.560 what the baby looks like, it's just as much of a life as any other stage in pregnancy. But Planned

00:07:06.240 Parenthood is built on manipulation. It is built on deceit. It is built on lies. They don't want the

00:07:12.640 woman to know what exactly their baby looks like. They don't want them to know about fetal development.

00:07:18.680 They don't want them to know about gestation. They don't want them to hear the heartbeat. They don't

00:07:22.940 want them to know their other options. They don't want them to know exactly what abortion entails and how

00:07:28.560 a baby actually dies in an abortion because they believe this kind of emotional manipulation

00:07:34.000 encourages women to get an abortion. If you are really pro-choice, if you really believe in choices,

00:07:40.480 you should be pro-educated choice. You, pro-choice person, should be fighting for women to be shown an

00:07:47.360 ultrasound before she gets an abortion, to get all the information that she needs on fetal development

00:07:52.080 and what an abortion actually entails, on adoption, on keeping their baby. Planned Parenthood, if they're

00:07:57.520 really pro-choice, they should be giving you all the resources in the world to show you the

00:08:02.020 possibilities in keeping your baby and all the resources that can help you. I mean, there are

00:08:06.380 pro-life pregnancy centers that have tried to build relationships with Planned Parenthoods in the

00:08:10.100 neighborhood saying, hey, if you have a client who wants to keep their baby, please send them our way

00:08:16.400 because look, we've got parenting classes. We've got education courses. We can help them get an

00:08:21.480 apartment if they need an apartment. If they're an immigrant, we can help them go through the

00:08:24.740 immigration process. If they need Medicaid, we can help them get that. We can try to get them into

00:08:31.300 a refuge or a shelter. If they're in an abuse situation, we can get them baby supplies.

00:08:38.020 That's what pro-life pregnancy centers do. Planned Parenthoods do not do those things. And Planned

00:08:43.100 Parenthoods refuse to refer their clients, even the ones who want to keep their baby, to these pro-life

00:08:48.800 pregnancy centers. That's not pro-choice. That's pro-abortion. So if we're going to talk about

00:08:53.700 misnomers here and the abortion debate, it's not pro-life that's the misnomer. It's pro-choice.

00:08:59.480 If you're pro-choice, be pro-educated choice. Be pro-options. But unfortunately, that is not what

00:09:07.300 the majority of the pro-life movement is. And yet there are these Christian women who I'm seeing

00:09:15.200 saying, oh, no, no, no, I'm going to be a part of the party that is funded, that is powered by this

00:09:23.280 deceitful pro-abortion movement, pro-abortion lobby, baby murder mill Planned Parenthood, because they

00:09:31.060 are pro-all life. And it's just not true. It's not true. And I'm just afraid that they're making this

00:09:40.340 decision based on Trump's personality, his personal failures and the 90 percent of coverage in the

00:09:47.680 media that is negative towards Trump, even though not everything that he has done is bad and he's

00:09:53.120 done a lot of good things and said a lot of good things. You don't see that covered. People are being

00:09:57.620 manipulated by the deceitful media. They are caught up in Trump's very real flaws, which he does have

00:10:03.800 very real flaws. I agree with you on that. I don't think that he is Christlike. I certainly don't see

00:10:09.560 him as my savior. I'm not looking to him as my godly example or my pastor or my valentine,

00:10:15.840 someone that I have to be in love with. I'm looking at policies. I am looking at the policies that I

00:10:31.100 know are going to shape the future for my kids and my grandkids and for the country. I don't care

00:10:36.380 about Trump's personality. And yet I think these people who are saying, no, I'm voting Democrat

00:10:41.240 because I'm pro all life. They're really voting Democrat because they think Trump is a meanie

00:10:45.620 and that Joe Biden is a nice guy. And that's not a good enough reason. It's not a good enough reason.

00:10:53.020 If you agree with Joe Biden's policies, if you are for overturning the Hyde Amendment so that abortions are

00:10:59.460 funded with our federal tax dollars and codifying row so that states can no longer restrict abortion,

00:11:06.080 and if you are for more funding for Planned Parenthood, which is responsible for at least

00:11:11.800 300,000 murders of unborn babies every year, then sure, you should vote for Joe Biden. If you agree

00:11:18.500 with those policies, if you are for repealing Donald Trump's tax cuts, which Joe Biden has promised to

00:11:23.460 do, which will raise taxes for the middle class, no matter what he says, you should vote for Joe Biden.

00:11:27.740 If you are for legislation like the Equality Act, which strips conscience rights for doctors who

00:11:33.000 don't want to perform abortions or gender reassignment surgery, which means they will

00:11:36.660 be forced to do so, which will require religious schools to allow biological boys who identify as

00:11:42.120 girls into girls' locker rooms and on girls' athletic teams, then you should vote for Joe Biden.

00:11:47.960 I will link that article. I will link that legislation in the description so you can read it for yourself.

00:11:54.020 If you are for the $2 trillion Green New Deal, if you are for mandatory gun buybacks and making it

00:11:59.960 more difficult to buy a gun, if you are for eliminating single-family housing zones, if you

00:12:04.080 are for a universal mask mandate and mandatory contact tracing and more lockdowns, if you are for

00:12:09.840 expanding the Supreme Court to 13 seats and filling in the extra four with liberal justices so the

00:12:15.680 Constitution does not matter anymore, if you are for decriminalizing illegal border crossings,

00:12:20.680 if you are for the party supported by Black Lives Matter, the violent communist organization who

00:12:25.880 explicitly wants to abolish police and prisons and disrupt the nuclear family, according to their

00:12:31.600 website, if you are against school choice in charter schools, then you should vote Joe Biden.

00:12:36.460 Absolutely. If those are policies that you agree with, then vote Joe Biden.

00:12:40.580 If you are for his proposals, if you are for his policies, if you are for the Democratic platform,

00:12:46.800 then you should absolutely vote for them. If you have thought through the implications of the

00:12:51.740 policies and what they mean for you, your family and your community, as well as for vulnerable

00:12:56.400 populations, if you have looked at the results, not just the intentions, but the results of Democratic

00:13:03.200 policies and have deemed them good and beneficial and helpful, then yes, please vote for Joe Biden.

00:13:10.120 And please, I think that you should be honest, of course, about what you believe in and what you

00:13:16.460 think is good and what you want to vote for. But if you haven't, if you are voting for Joe Biden

00:13:21.640 because he seems nice and because Donald Trump seems kind of mean, because he's kind of rude or

00:13:27.480 bombastic, if you if you just don't like how he interrupted at the debate, if you are concerned about

00:13:31.980 his past philandering or his personality or his tone or even his more more serious and very

00:13:39.980 real moral flaws like pride and defensiveness, understand that you need to expand your

00:13:46.400 perspective. That doesn't mean that you can't care about those things or criticize those things.

00:13:51.420 But and I mean this lovingly, in this case, you are being short sighted. Trump's personality,

00:13:57.740 like I said, will not shape your life, your kids or your grandkids futures. Even his personal flaws

00:14:03.080 will not shape your kids lives or your grandkids lives. They just won't. That doesn't mean that you

00:14:08.420 have to condone Trump's behavior at every turn. It doesn't mean that you have to brush aside his

00:14:13.440 sins or brush them under the rug. It doesn't mean that you have to pretend like he is Christ-like

00:14:18.660 or that he is a representation of Christianity. It doesn't mean you can't criticize him. I do it all

00:14:22.860 the time. As Christians, no politician is our savior. We know that. So we look at the policies that

00:14:30.400 actually have an effect on our lives and the lives of others. And again, you have to look at the results,

00:14:35.060 not just the intentions of these policies. But if you have only been reading left-wing articles and

00:14:41.120 social media trends about what Biden believes, or you're just turned off by Trump's tweets,

00:14:45.260 then you are misinformed or uninformed about this particular decision. If that's the only indicator

00:14:51.520 of how you are going to vote, if that's the only basis that you have for your decision,

00:14:56.560 what will you say? Christian, who says that you are being pro-all life by voting for Joe Biden,

00:15:03.000 and what will you say when they do exactly what they say that they want to do? Overturn the Hyde

00:15:08.000 Amendment and your federal tax dollars are funding abortion. Or when abortion is codified through nine

00:15:13.420 months. Or when they defund the police so that sex traffickers can no longer get caught and the

00:15:18.280 single mom whose home was broken into has no one to call. Or when they buy back her guns. Or when

00:15:23.880 taxes are raised to the point of people feeling like they can't afford to give to the church or

00:15:27.940 charity anymore. Or when they continue their 60-year war, Democrats on poverty, and their results

00:15:33.460 continue to be more homelessness like we see in every city where Democrats have been in charge for

00:15:39.120 decades. Or when your daughter is playing soccer against boys and she's sharing locker rooms with

00:15:46.800 boys. Or when your tax dollars are funding gender reassignment surgery. Or when, pastor, you are facing

00:15:52.420 fines or jail time for preaching that marriage is between a man and a woman because they call that

00:15:56.420 illegal conversion therapy. What are you going to do? Or when the Equality Act says you can't refuse

00:16:02.840 to hire a transgender person to pastor your church or teach your kids at a Christian school. Or when

00:16:08.440 parents' kids are being taken away from them because they won't affirm their newfound gender identity when

00:16:14.600 they're 11 years old. Or when your friends in poor communities are told their school voucher program

00:16:19.320 is coming to an end and they have to send their kid back to the public school in their area even though

00:16:23.760 that was where they were getting bullied. This isn't hyperbole. These are all the very real consequences

00:16:29.900 of the policies the Democrats have either implemented or are proposing right now. Will you still say that

00:16:36.500 you've made a good decision? Will you still say that you're being pro all life? Will you have the courage to

00:16:42.020 criticize the administration that you voted into office? That you insisted was caring for the least of these?

00:16:47.980 I keep hearing these women say that Democrats are the ones that are advancing the cause of life,

00:16:57.040 that are advancing the cause of compassion, that better represent our faith. Please go back and

00:17:02.940 listen to last Wednesday's episode. The idea, again, that Democrat presidencies or policies are

00:17:09.440 promoting life and are decreasing abortion just is not backed by fact. You say the Democrats care for the

00:17:17.820 poor? Not any more than Republicans do. Again, not by results. In fact, many of their policies are

00:17:24.080 counterproductive through welfare programs that make it more lucrative to be jobless than to be employed.

00:17:31.140 That's not biblical, guys. That's not biblical. The Lord created work before the fall. Work is not a

00:17:38.780 necessary evil. The necessity to be productive, to contribute to the world around you, whether or not

00:17:45.020 that is actually earning a salary. You can be a stay-at-home mom and be productive and be a worker

00:17:49.380 in that sense. But to especially to enable able-bodied, able-minded people into unemployment by making it more

00:17:59.740 lucrative to stay unemployed than to seek work is sinful. It's wrong. It makes the mind and the body

00:18:07.280 atrophy. It's bad for society. In LA, where more than 80,000 homeless people roam the streets,

00:18:13.660 live in squalor, are addicted to drugs, and defecate on the sidewalk, is LA caring for their poor

00:18:20.800 by making it more comfortable to be homeless? Are they going to be able to care for their poor when

00:18:26.160 all the people move out of LA and move out of California and they don't have the tax money to

00:18:30.900 fund these programs anymore? What about Baltimore or Austin or San Francisco, New York, Detroit? It's the

00:18:37.240 same story. You're not caring for the poor by defunding the police or prisons. You're not caring

00:18:43.400 for the poor through unlimited and unconditional welfare. I do believe that there is a place for

00:18:48.920 social safety nets. I'm not saying the government doesn't have a place in that at all, but unconditional

00:18:53.560 unlimited welfare is enabling. It's unhealthy and it's unkind. You're not caring for the poor by

00:18:58.920 eliminating school choice, which is what we're going to talk about in a few minutes. Simply voting for

00:19:03.560 more social programs and bigger government and higher taxes does not mean you're more compassionate

00:19:09.200 or more pro-all life than the person who believes that the government should be limited and small,

00:19:13.860 taxes should be lower, social programs should be limited, welfare should be conditional,

00:19:19.280 and that individuals, churches, and charities should bear the brunt of responsibility for our

00:19:24.860 neighbor. And people scoff at that as if churches aren't doing a good job. They are. We do it so well,

00:19:30.760 especially in America, especially in red states, as we talked about and cited in last Wednesday's

00:19:36.560 episode. Additionally, and let me just go through some of these points because I keep hearing, well,

00:19:41.440 if you are really pro-life, you have to be anti-death penalty. You have to be anti-gun. You have to be

00:19:46.900 pro-open borders. Let me break some of those misconceptions down. You can be pro-life and be for

00:19:54.080 the death penalty. You don't have to be for the death penalty. Compassionate and reasonable people

00:19:58.940 can absolutely disagree on that. But the Bible certainly does not rule out the death penalty,

00:20:04.560 but actually prescribes it for certain crimes like murder. So you can't say that it's entirely

00:20:09.960 unbiblical. You can still oppose it if you believe that the risk is too high for a not guilty person

00:20:16.900 to be executed. Sure, I think that there's a good argument there. But issuing the death penalty to a man

00:20:21.980 who tortured, repeatedly raped, and then murdered a three-year-old is not the same as being against

00:20:29.240 the death penalty for a defenseless unborn child. It's not the same thing. And drawing a moral

00:20:36.580 equivalence between those two things, executing a murderer and executing a defenseless baby in the womb

00:20:44.180 is utterly insane. It doesn't make any sense. And the death penalty, according to God in the Old

00:20:50.640 Testament, actually shows honor to the victim. It shows the value of the life of the person who was

00:20:55.960 murdered. It shows that God cares about life so much and hates murder so much, which is the killing

00:21:02.100 of an innocent person. It's not just any kind of killing. So much that he said the only just punishment

00:21:09.680 is the death of the murderer. So does that make God not pro-life? Is God in the Old Testament not

00:21:16.500 pro-life, according to the people who are defining pro-life today? Again, I think that there are some

00:21:21.060 good arguments for opposing the death penalty. And if you do oppose it, that's totally fine with me.

00:21:26.200 But if you call someone who is for the death penalty and against abortion not pro-life, then you're

00:21:31.040 calling God not pro-life. And I'm not really sure that you want to go there if you're a Christian.

00:21:35.280 Banning guns does not make you pro-life. Second Amendment limitations disproportionately affect poor

00:21:42.220 people in high crime neighborhoods who can't afford to go through the hoops of owning a gun in areas

00:21:46.960 where it's difficult to do so. Rich people will be able to get their guns. Joe Biden's proposal simply

00:21:52.880 makes it hard for regular income and poor people to get guns, so much so that actually a writer at the

00:21:58.180 Washington Post, a far-left writer, opposes his plan. I believe being for safe, responsible gun

00:22:05.340 ownership is extremely pro-life. It shows that you care about innocent life so much that you believe

00:22:11.560 that it should be defended. Restricting the Second Amendment is not going to stop the murders in Chicago

00:22:17.660 and New York, in D.C., which have the strictest gun laws in the nation, by the way. It's not going to

00:22:24.100 stop mass shooters, unfortunately, tragically. Those people obviously do not care about the law,

00:22:31.000 and they will find a way to carry out their attacks. Restricting the Second Amendment only

00:22:37.160 makes law-abiding citizens, especially poor citizens, more vulnerable. So that does not make

00:22:42.820 you pro-life. We can disagree on gun restrictions, absolutely. I'm not saying that you're not pro-life

00:22:49.040 if you are for some kind of gun control, but you're also not pro-life if you are against gun control and

00:22:55.600 you are for the Second Amendment and safe, responsible gun ownership. Latching on to the

00:23:00.880 liberal definition of so-called racial justice does not equal pro-life. Show me the results

00:23:06.460 of Democrats' form of racial justice. All of these riots are going on in cities and states run by

00:23:13.260 Democrats, saying that America is systemically racist, which in 2020, as we have dissected and heard

00:23:18.760 from guests so many times on this podcast, is not backed up by fact because it's looking at

00:23:23.480 disparities, claiming discrimination without any actual investigation into the facts and the reasons

00:23:30.100 for some of those disparities. So claiming America is racist, systemically racist in 2020, as Joe Biden

00:23:37.320 has done and apparently did not fix when he was in office for 47 years and was vice president for eight

00:23:44.200 years does not mean that you are championing racial justice, pointing to disparities between groups

00:23:49.460 and claiming the cause is unconditionally always and undoubtedly discrimination is not racial justice

00:23:56.200 and it's not pro-all life. Believing in open borders does not mean pro-all life. Obama administration,

00:24:03.880 they are the ones that built the cages for the kids at the border. I did an episode on immigration

00:24:09.740 where I said I agree that family separation is wrong. I understand there's also complication

00:24:14.840 there with some of the so-called parents bringing kids are actually drug traffickers and human

00:24:20.380 traffickers and so there has to be some policy to be able to protect those kids, but at the same time

00:24:25.400 taking babies away from their real mothers is a punishment for crossing the border illegally,

00:24:29.640 I think is immoral and wrong and I absolutely agree. We should treat the foreigner with care that is

00:24:35.580 biblical. I absolutely agree with you, but that does not mean that we should be borderless. We have to

00:24:41.500 protect the sovereignty of our nation if we have compassion and care for the people inside our

00:24:45.140 nation. We have to have strong borders if we want to keep the people safe inside our country because

00:24:52.120 it's a national security threat. Borders are absolutely biblical. We've talked about that. Go listen to

00:24:57.540 the immigration episode. If you want to be truly anti-racist, if you want to be truly pro-immigrant,

00:25:07.300 if you want to be pro-love, pro-neighbor, pro-vulnerable, then go out and love your neighbor as

00:25:14.020 yourself. You don't have to vote for Joe Biden to do that. I mean, think about, for example, the black

00:25:19.660 unemployment rate was the lowest that it's ever been or at least that it's been in several decades

00:25:25.280 under Donald Trump. I mean, why wouldn't we want that for them? Joe Biden just said that the reason

00:25:33.180 that he's able to do what he's doing is because there's black women stocking grocery shelves.

00:25:40.220 He continually says these kind of patronizing things about black people and the media never

00:25:44.560 makes it into a moment, never makes it into a thing. But when Trump either doesn't say something

00:25:49.520 exactly correct or he trips up on his words or he says something stupid, it becomes a huge moment

00:25:54.020 that shows that he's a white supremacist. But when Joe Biden says, oh, yeah, black people are the

00:25:59.340 ones that are stocking shelves, black women, it's just brushed under the rug. It's just weird, Uncle

00:26:04.020 Joe. I mean, he's the same guy who said in 2007 that Barack Obama was the first clean, articulate,

00:26:10.540 mainstream African-American. And he he also said around that time, I think it was a couple years

00:26:18.320 later that you can't actually go into a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian

00:26:23.660 accent. He said more recently that if you don't vote for him, you ain't black. He said, unlike the

00:26:28.880 Hispanic community, the black people, they all kind of think the same way. That's paraphrase.

00:26:35.760 You can go listen to the video yourself. He authored the 1994 crime bill, which, you know, I don't agree

00:26:41.600 with all of the dissenters or all of the leftist activists that disagree with this bill for certain

00:26:47.860 reasons. But the fact of the matter is, is that it sent thousands and thousands of black men and

00:26:54.040 women to prison under his bill. And yet this is all brushed under the rug. I mean, he eulogized a

00:26:59.580 former KKK leader. That's real. That happened. And some people are saying, well, you know, the guy came

00:27:04.700 out later and said that he regretted joining the KKK. Do you think we would give the same benefit of the

00:27:09.040 doubt to Donald Trump if he did the same thing? No. So every single flaw, especially when it comes

00:27:14.800 to racism, that we ascribe to Donald Trump, we can just as easily find a way to ascribe to Joe

00:27:22.320 Biden. So at the end of the day, you got to look at the policies. Joe Biden has also been accused of

00:27:27.480 sexual assault, you'll remember, but the media doesn't care about Tara Reid. They don't care about

00:27:31.940 her. All the flaws that you see in Trump, you've also got in Joe Biden. So you have to move beyond

00:27:38.040 their personalities and you have to actually look at their policies. We hear that if you are really

00:27:46.000 pro-life, that you will fund education. And this is what's going to segue us into the next part of

00:27:51.300 the podcast. Education funding, guys, has increased drastically since the 1960s. The problem is the

00:27:58.860 majority of the funding goes to administrative bloat, not to teachers and students. As teachers unions get

00:28:04.180 more money, more members, more power, and as public schools get more funding, that does not translate

00:28:09.620 into better outcomes for students. And that's what I want to talk about now. I wanted to get into some of

00:28:16.240 the nitty-gritty of our education system and why the liberal approach to education is not good. It's

00:28:21.940 actually counterproductive. And so the argument that being pro-all life means being a liberal on

00:28:27.000 education, it's just not true. It doesn't even make any sense. It sounds good. I mean, all of these

00:28:32.680 things sound good. That if you're pro-all life, you are pro-all of these liberal policies. Yeah,

00:28:38.120 if you don't think past them, what these policies actually are and what they mean and what Joe Biden

00:28:43.400 and Democrats have actually done and proposed, then sure, they all sound good. But I believe we're

00:28:47.420 smarter than that, right? Like, I believe that we can think a little bit harder than that. Again,

00:28:52.460 if you agree with Joe Biden's policies, by all means, vote for him. But if you just think Trump is a

00:28:57.820 meanie, that's not a good reason. It's not a good reason. So let's dig in to education

00:29:03.320 and what it looks like here. So first, I want to talk about teachers' unions. You guys have heard

00:29:09.080 me talk about teachers' unions a lot. I'm going to link an interview that I did with Corey DeAngelis,

00:29:14.600 who is an expert on school choice that I did several weeks ago. I'll link that. And you should

00:29:20.320 definitely go listen to that and follow him, too, because he is a wealth of information about this

00:29:25.560 subject. But teachers' unions are public unions. They are funded by our tax dollars. Our tax dollars

00:29:32.460 fund the public schools and the salaries of the public school teachers. These public school

00:29:36.680 teachers, they pay their member dues to the public union in exchange for theoretically lobbying for

00:29:43.040 better pay for teachers protections from lawsuits, etc. The reason why I and many conservatives

00:29:50.340 believe that public unions are unethical and should not exist, including police unions,

00:29:55.540 by the way, is because the tax money that is funding the teachers' unions typically goes into

00:30:01.840 supporting whatever politicians they want in power. And nine times out of 10, those are Democratic

00:30:08.120 politicians. But I would say whether or not they were supporting Republican or Democratic politicians,

00:30:13.480 I don't think it's ethical for our tax dollars to go towards campaigns that many of us might not

00:30:18.800 actually support. Not only that, teachers' unions lobby for issues and policies that a lot of people

00:30:24.760 don't agree with. And they often protect bad and incompetent and sometimes even criminal teachers.

00:30:30.400 So they are working against, in so many cases, the well-being of the schools and the students.

00:30:36.400 Teachers' unions may work on behalf of the teachers, but it is rare. They exist like all bureaucracies for

00:30:44.860 their own power. They take the money that they're given and they use it to bolster their own

00:30:49.480 influence. They're a big reason why, although, like I said, funding for a public school has increased

00:30:55.740 over the past several decades. Teacher salaries are stagnant. Teachers are still having to buy their

00:31:00.180 own supplies. Outcomes for students haven't really improved for the most part. But it's not just

00:31:06.160 teachers' unions. It's the public education system in general who spends its money on administrative

00:31:11.440 and not the teachers or the students. Democrats continually say that we need to fund education,

00:31:17.240 that the reason why teachers are having to buy their own supplies is because we, and especially

00:31:23.000 Republicans, refuse to fund education. But that's just not true. The problem is not that there's not

00:31:28.620 enough money. It's that it's not being spent efficiently or effectively. So giving more money to an

00:31:35.820 organization, to a group, to a system that is not spending money wisely is not going to solve any

00:31:40.920 problem. So that's the summary of what I'm about to say. Let's get into some of the details. Here are

00:31:45.980 some examples of the partisanship of teachers' unions and the public education system and how they

00:31:51.580 work against the well-being of their students. We saw this most of the beginning of the school year

00:31:56.540 when teachers' unions were pushing for the schools to stay closed, despite the fact that top medical

00:32:01.740 and scientific professionals in the country and around the world were saying that the pros outweigh

00:32:06.420 the cons when it comes to kids being in school. I mean, kids have to stay on track educationally in

00:32:11.140 many cases. Unfortunately, they need welfare checks. They need the food that is provided for them. They

00:32:17.480 need socialization. They need structure. Special needs kids need that close attention. They need that

00:32:23.180 care. They need those lessons and that consistency. And the risk to these kids when it comes to

00:32:30.100 coronavirus is very low and for many of the teachers. However, the American Federation of

00:32:36.180 Teachers, the second largest teachers union in the country, pushed hard for schools to stay closed

00:32:41.200 in most places. Randy Weingarten, the head of the union, said nothing was off the table. She said,

00:32:47.700 not advocacy or protest negotiations, grievances or lawsuits, or if necessary, an authorized by a local

00:32:54.960 union as a last resort safety strike. So as kids are needing to go back to school with special needs

00:33:00.240 kids, kids who need welfare checks, kids who are relying on that middle of the day meal in order

00:33:05.720 to get through their day without hunger pangs, the teachers union and the teachers say that they might go

00:33:12.740 on strike. There was a Florida teachers union, Florida Education Association sued. They sued the state

00:33:18.840 for ordering schools to reopen in the fall. In D.C., teachers unions lined up fake body bags outside

00:33:25.400 school system offices that were supposed to represent their corpses after being forced to teach in the

00:33:31.220 fall and be exposed to the coronavirus. Arizona teachers were protesting going back to school with what

00:33:37.000 they were calling six days of action. One of the days were spent was spent writing their obituaries to

00:33:43.680 send to the governor. Another was spent marching with Black Lives Matter. Now think about that.

00:33:48.840 Think about that. If they're worried about the coronavirus because they're going to be in

00:33:53.980 school, do you really think they would go out and protest with Black Lives Matter? What? You're

00:33:59.220 going to catch the coronavirus in school, but not when you're out in the streets? Makes a lot of sense.

00:34:04.300 An L.A. teachers union, United Teachers Los Angeles said teachers will only go back to school if local

00:34:11.020 authorities will meet their demands, which include defunding the police. That has a lot to do with

00:34:15.800 students' welfare, right? Medicare for all, a moratorium on charter schools, and more financial

00:34:21.620 support for illegal immigrants. If teachers are really worried about the education for their

00:34:30.140 students, if the teachers unions really cared about the safety of their teachers, would they be

00:34:34.340 encouraging them to organize and to protest and to go out like this? No, of course not. I think that

00:34:39.840 it's safe to say that this was not about safety from the coronavirus. If we are to take national

00:34:46.300 coronavirus reporting at face value, the death rate for the virus is about 0.3 percent, and that

00:34:50.940 includes elderly people and people with underlying conditions. For people without these things, it is

00:34:56.560 actually much lower than that. According to a commentary in the peer-reviewed medical journal

00:35:00.620 Pediatrics, international studies show that it is exceedingly rare for a child to transmit the virus

00:35:06.040 to an adult. They said serious consideration should be paid towards strategies that allow schools to

00:35:11.200 remain open even during periods of COVID-19 spread. Even NBC reported that the pediatricians they

00:35:18.640 consulted were definitely going to send their kids back to school in the fall because clearly based on

00:35:25.840 all available evidence, the benefits to kids going back to school were greater than the risks. But the

00:35:31.560 teachers unions don't care. It doesn't matter. They want their left-wing policy prescriptions to move

00:35:37.880 forward, and they are going to take away their presence from the public schools to get that. Look at

00:35:43.620 this New York Times headline. Teachers are wary of returning to class and online instruction too. The

00:35:50.480 article goes on to say unions are threatening to strike if classrooms reopen, but are also pushing to

00:35:55.340 limit live remote teaching. This was back a couple months ago. Their demands will shape pandemic

00:36:00.420 education. And now you've got a lot of teachers saying publicly that the reason that they're worried

00:36:06.020 about online instruction is that the parents might actually hear some of the things that they're

00:36:11.100 teaching their kids about gender ideology and racism. So, I mean, can you really say that the public

00:36:17.440 education system, especially the teachers unions that are protecting some of these awful teachers,

00:36:22.380 can you really say that they are looking out for the best interest of your kids? Not only do teachers

00:36:27.060 unions not want teachers to have to teach in person, but they also don't want them to have to teach

00:36:30.820 remotely, but they still want to get paid. They still want your tax dollars. And in case you forgot,

00:36:37.800 those tax dollars are then going to fund politicians, many of whom you don't agree with,

00:36:43.540 and are funding initiatives and policies and policy proposals that work directly against your own

00:36:49.660 interests. And for many teachers unions, the coronavirus crisis was simply a bargaining tool. It's just a way

00:36:55.380 for them to get what they want. They thought it was going to be bad press for Republican officials. It

00:37:00.720 was going to be this whole PR campaign against Donald Trump. And that is what they used it for

00:37:05.060 at the expense of kids who need to be in school. Teachers unions fight really hard to get as many

00:37:11.120 teachers as possible to join them, insisting that a non-union teacher is missing out on the manifold

00:37:17.100 benefits and protections that the union provides. And this is somewhat true for some teachers. The negative

00:37:24.120 effects of teachers unions outweigh the positive ones. According to the National Center for Education

00:37:29.320 Studies, since 1960, the United States has increased spending per student by 280 percent. And yes,

00:37:37.100 that is adjusting for inflation, has increased spending per student. Now, per student just means

00:37:43.720 that's how they're doing the math. That doesn't mean that that money is actually going towards the

00:37:49.840 student. So that's just how much money is actually increased in going to the public schools. So as an

00:37:57.080 aside, the common quip that America has been defunding education for years is just not true. It's been up by

00:38:04.320 280 percent per student. Our steady increase in education funding has not translated into better outcomes for

00:38:12.400 students or higher salaries for teachers. Kennesaw State University professor Ben Scafidi found in a study that while

00:38:19.380 real spending per student increased by 27 percent from 1992 to 2014, teachers' salaries dropped by

00:38:26.760 2 percent. As education experts Lindsay Burke and Corey DeAngelis know in an article for Yahoo News,

00:38:33.800 the money, quote, largely goes towards hiring more support staff in overall administrative bloat.

00:38:40.200 Adding employees to the system does not benefit students, but it does benefit the unions. A larger membership

00:38:46.140 means increased dues, revenue and political power. This political power is wielded in the ways that

00:38:51.700 you are seeing right now, holding the education of students hostage until their left wing, often

00:38:56.620 non-educated related, non-education related demands are met. Further evidence that teachers' unions are

00:39:04.140 typically not looking out for the best interests of students or teachers is unions' insistence upon

00:39:09.240 protecting incompetent and even corrupt teachers. According to Christian Barnard, at the Reason

00:39:16.200 Foundation, quote, more than 60 percent of teachers in the United States work in districts that are under a

00:39:22.180 union contract that typically contain seniority rules that make firing ineffective teachers almost

00:39:28.860 impossible. Barnard also writes, a 2011 paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research found that

00:39:36.060 replacing a highly ineffective teacher with even an average teacher raises each student's lifetime

00:39:42.040 income by $52,000 or roughly $1.4 million for a single classroom. You want to talk about systemic

00:39:49.860 injustice. Teachers' unions and how they work against the well-being of students, even just in this one

00:39:57.660 aspect of protecting bad teachers, that is a systemic injustice that I guarantee you affects poor,

00:40:04.200 vulnerable, immigrant, and black and brown communities more than any other community. You want to talk

00:40:09.600 about systemic racism, systemic injustice, then maybe you should be looking here. That means that

00:40:15.600 protecting bad teachers, as teachers' unions do, has lifelong negative effects on kids' futures. You may

00:40:23.720 have heard of rubber rooms, where public school teachers who have been accused of misconduct go while still

00:40:29.920 being paid their full tax-funded salary while they are awaiting reassignment. This is thanks to

00:40:37.020 teachers' unions. Listen to this from Lindsey Burke and Corey DeAngelis. Quote,

00:40:40.820 Union opposition to teacher accountability takes many forms. Just last year, the two teachers' unions

00:40:46.280 in Rhode Island fought against a bill that would have criminalized sex between school employees and

00:40:51.900 students. Did you hear that? Teachers' unions in Rhode Island fought against a bill that would have

00:40:58.100 criminalized sexual activity between school employees and students. And New York City. New York City

00:41:07.460 warehouses teachers accused of misconduct while still paying them. One teacher in Queens accused of

00:41:13.760 sexually abusing female students has been exiled in a rubber room for 20 years. During that time,

00:41:20.700 he has collected $1.7 million in taxpayer-funded salary while retaining full benefits. Wow. Teachers'

00:41:33.280 unions are against accountability for bad teachers. They are against competition, too. That is why they

00:41:39.020 fight so hard against school choice. And because they are empowered by Democrats and Democrats are partly

00:41:45.560 funded by teachers' unions, that is why Democrats also fight against school choice.

00:41:49.580 A school choice is an umbrella term for programs that allow parents of public school students to place

00:41:56.080 their child in a different school, not in their school district, or a charter school, which is an

00:42:01.200 independently run, publicly funded school. Right now, public school students are forced to go to the

00:42:06.960 public school in their district. And if there are no school choice programs in their state, they have to

00:42:12.220 stay there, even if they are not receiving the education or the treatment or the attention that they need,

00:42:17.620 even if they have incompetent teachers, even if they're being bullied, even if they have special

00:42:22.320 needs and this school doesn't have the special needs program that this child needs. It doesn't

00:42:26.220 matter. If you don't have school choice, you can't afford to move. You are forced, and you can't afford

00:42:32.120 to do homeschool, you are forced to go to the school in that district, no matter how bad it might be

00:42:37.620 for your child. School choice advocates simply believe that taxpayer dollars should follow the child

00:42:43.760 instead of just going to the school in their district, which would mean that parents have

00:42:48.580 the power, they have the freedom, they have the funding to do what is best for their child

00:42:53.240 and their child's education. This not only benefits the child who can now receive an education

00:42:58.760 experience that works for them, which we already said a few minutes ago actually has an effect on

00:43:03.720 their lifetime income, their ability to make money later on in life. It also benefits the other public

00:43:09.360 schools who are now incentivized to ensure their teachers are performing well and that they're

00:43:14.600 allocating their dollars efficiently so that when given the choice, parents will choose to keep their

00:43:20.240 kids at their originally assigned school. You hear all the time, the Smith, that school choice hurts

00:43:25.520 public schools because you're taking kids away from that school. Well, you shouldn't be, they wouldn't

00:43:31.020 be taking kids away from that school if the money that that school was getting was actually used

00:43:35.460 wisely and well. It's a basic economic principle that competition increases equality. This is the

00:43:41.600 basis of capitalism as it is right now with kids being forced to go to the school in their school

00:43:46.840 district. There is no incentive for these schools to use their money efficiently or to hold bad teachers

00:43:53.000 accountable. And to anyone who says, again, that school choice hurts the students and teachers who

00:43:58.200 remain at the schools that families are leaving, that's just not true. As we've already established,

00:44:03.100 we have been increasing funding for public education for years. And what's clear is that no amount of

00:44:08.540 money can produce better outcomes for students if the money is not spent wisely. A 2017 article in the

00:44:15.200 Washington Post says this, the Obama administration pumped $7 billion into the nation's worst performing

00:44:22.900 public schools and it yielded no positive results. None. $7 billion during the Obama administration

00:44:29.300 to the nation's worst performing schools yielded no results. The article says this, quote, test scores,

00:44:36.800 graduation rates, and college enrollment were no different in schools that received money through

00:44:41.400 the school improvement grants program, the largest federal investment ever targeted to failing schools

00:44:47.000 than in schools that did not. That goes to show that we do not have a funding issue. We have an

00:44:53.400 accountability issue, a competition issue, a quality of education issue that is being stifled

00:44:58.800 by teachers unions who care more about partisan power than they do their teachers or their

00:45:04.120 students. The reason why there is still public school teachers buying their own supplies for

00:45:09.720 classrooms is because education dollars are not being well spent and school districts are being weighed

00:45:16.840 down by the bureaucracy of teachers unions. All of this is at the expense of the students and not just

00:45:23.900 any kind of student, but in particular poor students, middle and upper class families already have school

00:45:28.920 choice. It's called having money to send your kid to a private school. But if you don't have that money, you

00:45:33.800 don't have school choice unless you have a school choice program that actually gives you the taxpayer funded

00:45:40.220 ability to have a voucher or some kind of school choice option to send your kid to a charter school or

00:45:47.860 another school of your choice. The outcomes for kids in charter schools are on average overwhelmingly

00:45:54.660 more positive than for kids in public school. The same goes for the average kid who attends private

00:45:59.400 school or a home school. If we want public schools to be able to compete with other kinds of schooling,

00:46:04.920 we need higher quality schools, which means we need more efficient spending of education funding

00:46:09.760 and a refusal to shield bad teachers from getting fired, which would be incentivized by the competition

00:46:14.840 created by school choice. Despite that, despite all of that, Joe Biden with his unity task force that

00:46:21.960 includes Bernie Sanders. So any of you who think that Joe Biden is going to be this moderate guy, he's

00:46:28.080 he's not. First of all, he's not a moderate. He never has been a moderate, but he's obviously not going to

00:46:35.260 be a moderate because Bernie Sanders is a part of his policymaking and policy proposals. And Bernie Sanders

00:46:41.520 said that he is going to be the most left wing president. This is going to be the most left wing

00:46:47.100 presidency since FDR. Bernie Sanders, the self-proclaimed socialist, is saying that. So Joe

00:46:52.520 Biden is not a moderate. Bernie Sanders, part of his unity task force, they put together this education

00:47:00.120 plan that I will link to. It's on their website. It says this, quote, Democrats oppose private school

00:47:06.440 vouchers and other policies that divert taxpayer funded resources away from the public school

00:47:12.400 system. So that is how they are. That's how they are using a particular kind of rhetoric to say that

00:47:19.360 they are against school choice because it's, quote, diverting taxpayer funded resources away from the

00:47:24.420 public school system. Well, we've already busted that myth. We've already busted it. It's not about not

00:47:29.400 having funds at these public schools and public schools would actually be helped by the competition.

00:47:33.180 So despite all of the evidence showing how great school choice is for low income students,

00:47:39.560 which happen to be disproportionately black and brown students, Joe Biden and his unity task force

00:47:46.160 with Bernie Sanders is explicitly against school choice, against private school vouchers and other

00:47:52.040 policies that promote school choice. And Democrats don't like school choice. They just don't. They stand

00:47:58.360 against school choice, even though it is proven to help these vulnerable communities that they

00:48:03.100 say that they're fighting for the holistically pro-life party because teachers unions don't like

00:48:09.020 school choice. Teachers unions want more power. They don't want parents to be empowered. They want

00:48:14.320 the power. They want the money. They don't want accountability. They're predominantly these teachers

00:48:20.100 unions made up of liberal bureaucrats that use our tax dollars to support democratic politicians and their

00:48:25.440 policies. And if you don't like the idea of your tax money supporting politicians that you disagree

00:48:30.000 with left or right, then you should be opposed to the idea, not just of teachers unions, but all public sector

00:48:35.980 unions, which all generally function the same way. Unfortunately, teachers unions will continue to work

00:48:42.420 against the interests of students and the thousands of wonderful, hardworking public school teachers, as long as

00:48:48.780 they are propped up by the mostly democratic politicians who rely on them for support.

00:48:53.720 Um, if you are saying that education is something that matters to you, and that is a pro-all life

00:49:02.060 issue, Republicans have been the ones. Republicans aren't great on everything. They're not as pro-life

00:49:07.440 as I want them to be. They are not as at the forefront of the culture war as I want them to be. They're not

00:49:13.300 as small government, low tax as I want them to be. But Republicans have been really good in a lot of

00:49:20.100 cases on school choice, especially President Trump. Um, so this is a headline Trump administration

00:49:26.000 announces $85 million to support disadvantaged students in nation's capital attending K through

00:49:32.220 12 private schools of their choice. So this is a direct opposition to Joe Biden's plan, which he

00:49:38.780 wants to limit the expansion of charter schools in DC specifically. And Trump is countering that

00:49:44.440 U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos announced today that the Department of Education will award at least

00:49:50.060 $85 million over the next five years for disadvantaged students from families with lower incomes

00:49:54.760 in Washington, D.C. to attend private schools of their choice. So you see the difference here.

00:49:59.540 This is money to families to empower parents to make the best choice for their kids, which

00:50:05.120 conservatives, the conservative worldview should be the Christian worldview, believes that parents

00:50:10.400 have the authority and have the stewardship over their kids, not the state, not the public school,

00:50:17.000 that parents should have the power and can have the funds to send their kids where they think is

00:50:23.500 best rather than the public school system who really doesn't care, does not care about your kids

00:50:29.540 or the well-being of, uh, of your kids. The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program is the only federal

00:50:35.880 funded school choice program in the nation. The program was restored by President Donald J. Trump in May

00:50:40.560 2017, following a cruel decision by the Obama administration to cut its funding. Again,

00:50:46.400 the Obama administration does not want to empower individual families to make the choices that are

00:50:50.600 best for the students. He just wants to pump $7 billion into the school system and say, see,

00:50:55.520 the government did it and we gave more power to the public school system. Well, how did that work out?

00:51:00.980 It didn't work out at all. There were zero improvements whatsoever. After Obama pumped that

00:51:06.340 $7 billion taxpayer dollars, those $7 billion taxpayer dollars into the public school system.

00:51:12.400 Now, when it comes to higher education, uh, Joe Biden, according to the Wall Street Journal,

00:51:16.980 would cancel all or some debt for many public college graduates, public sector workers,

00:51:21.300 and victims of fraudulent practices by some for-profit schools. For a remaining debt,

00:51:26.140 the Democratic presidential nominee would slash monthly payments. And so, you know, Bernie Sanders was a

00:51:31.680 big free college advocate. So is AOC. I think Ilhan Omar is too. So Joe Biden is kind of giving that

00:51:37.820 plan, but not as extreme as Bernie Sanders. Just a reminder, nothing is free. And so, uh, by canceling

00:51:44.600 the debt or quote, forgiving the debt of people who have gone into debt, going to college, you are

00:51:52.060 charging the people, you are forcing the people who did pay off their debt or who saved for college,

00:51:57.560 um, or who chose not to go to college and saved their money. You are forcing them to pay for people

00:52:03.100 who chose to go to college and chose to take on that debt. I just don't see that as an, as a justice.

00:52:08.940 I understand that, you know, you went into debt, you might've gone into debt for a good reason.

00:52:14.520 If you went to college, maybe it was worth it for you to get your degree or to get your post-grad

00:52:19.280 degree. And so you took on that debt. Maybe you were a victim of fraudulent practices,

00:52:22.880 which of course is terrible of whoever manipulated you into that. Maybe you were young and you made

00:52:29.560 a bad decision, but it is still not the responsibility of other people to pay for

00:52:34.720 the debt that you chose to take on. It is not your responsibility as someone who paid off your

00:52:39.520 debt or someone who chose not to go to college and save your money or someone who saved for your

00:52:43.880 kids to go to college or for you to go to college to then pay for the debt that other people decided

00:52:47.980 to take on. That's not a justice. Donald Trump, according to WSJ, hasn't endorsed wide scale

00:52:54.440 student debt forgiveness. His administration has previously urged Congress to allow all borrowers

00:52:59.640 to make monthly payments equivalent to 12.5% of their income for up to 15 years for undergraduate debt

00:53:05.840 and 30 years for graduate school debt, and then have any balances canceled. Again,

00:53:10.820 like I don't understand really how the cancellation happens. These colleges are going to get paid.

00:53:16.920 The Biden campaign said it hasn't calculated the cost of his plan or decided how to pay for it.

00:53:23.120 That's always good. The Biden campaign said it hasn't calculated the cost of his plan or decided

00:53:29.080 how to pay for it. So how are all of these debts going to be forgiven by people who chose to take

00:53:34.920 on the debts to go to college and grad school? We don't know. We just know that the American people

00:53:39.480 are going to bear the cost of it. Mr. Biden has separately called for tax increases of about $4 trillion

00:53:45.420 over a decade through levies on corporations and high income households. It's not just going to be

00:53:51.280 high income households to pay for a variety of programs. Mark Kantrowitz, publisher of savingforcollege.com,

00:53:57.640 which advises families on financial aid, says Mr. Biden's proposed debt forgiveness could cost as

00:54:02.260 much as $1 trillion, $1 trillion on the taxpayers, many of whom couldn't even afford to go to college

00:54:09.080 and have decided to make a life of their own and have made something of themselves to provide for

00:54:15.240 themselves and their family are now going to be paying the debt for people who did decide to take

00:54:19.720 on debt to go to college. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. $1 trillion. But Biden says that he

00:54:24.700 hasn't even calculated that. So those are the education plans for Trump and for Biden. Trump and

00:54:31.700 Republicans are for school choice. They believe that parents of poor kids, of disadvantaged kids,

00:54:36.600 of parents especially, and black and brown and immigrant communities should have the power,

00:54:43.120 should have the funding to decide the education that is best for them. And what we see is the

00:54:47.380 outcomes for kids who are able to choose their education are far and away, on average, better

00:54:53.020 than the kids who are not given that ability. But Democrats, because they are funded by, because they

00:54:58.920 are empowered by the public education system and the teachers union, they want to take away school

00:55:03.680 choice. And that's the liberal mindset and the liberal worldview is that bureaucrats in Washington

00:55:10.060 know what's best for you and your family. And ultimately, leftism believes that your child

00:55:14.900 belongs to the state and should belong to the state, not to you, parent. I'm sorry. As someone who

00:55:21.100 is pro-family, as someone who is pro-vulnerable, pro the least of these, pro-child, holistically pro-life,

00:55:28.380 I cannot get on board with a platform, with the president, with any politician who is against

00:55:33.900 school choice. There's no good argument for it. There's no good argument for it. And I'm going to

00:55:39.260 link you some resources in the description for you to learn more about this. So this is yet another

00:55:44.400 reason why I'm voting for Donald Trump. This doesn't necessarily affect me personally. This

00:55:50.340 doesn't necessarily affect some of my friends personally, but it does affect the least of these.

00:55:55.500 It does affect people that I know that are in these vulnerable communities that I care about.

00:56:00.040 I want the best possible future for their child. So of course, I'm going to be for school choice.

00:56:04.600 I don't understand how these so-called social justice advocates who claim to care for the least

00:56:08.520 of these say that they're holistically pro-life, but they're voting for a guy who is explicitly against

00:56:13.040 school choice. It doesn't make any sense. So be pro-life and be pro-school choice.

00:56:19.620 That is my pitch to you. Okay. That's all I have for today. I will be back here on Wednesday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - October 12, 2020

Ep 312 ｜ Trump vs. Biden 2020： Education

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